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To add/remove an article, edit the article itself and add/remove appropriate [[Wikinews:Article flags|article flag]]. tmuzb6sb78ncr3ep72oz09opp6tj0ea 4 7100 5023145 5023025 2026-04-30T12:54:02Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* abuse filter mismatch for Adding email addresses to articles */ reply to Metropolitan90 ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5023145 wikitext text/x-wiki {{start tab |tab font-size =300% |link-1 =WN:Admin action alerts |tab-1 ='''Alerts''' |link-2 =WN:Admin action alerts/Requests |tab-2 ='''Requests''' |frame =no |border =2px solid #000 |off tab color = |on tab color = |rounding =0em |tab alignment =center }} {{/Header}} {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Admin action alerts/Archive %(counter)d |algo = old(14d) |counter = 14 |maxarchivesize = 192K }} {{clear}} __NEWSECTIONLINK__ == Requesting unprotection == Hi, can you please unprotect my user page ([[User:Daniel]])? It has some sort of legacy protection that prevents me from editing it. Need to clean up. Thanks, [[User:Daniel|Daniel]] ([[User talk:Daniel|talk]]) 02:02, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :{{done}} —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:47, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Administrative matters for the closure == Could the admins check with the Foundation to find out what ''time'' on May 4 they intend to make Wikinews read-only? (I'm not saying that this information should necessarily be publicized, since someone might exploit it to sneak some self-promotion onto the site at the last minute. But the admins should know.) On a related note, could the admins make sure that the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] is cleared out by the last day? The list of "Incorrectly flagged articles", for example, is baffling enough with Wikinews being active; we don't need to have them confuse people for the rest of the Internet's lifespan. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : {{tq|could the admins make sure that the Newsroom is cleared out by the last day}} : Yes. I am working through as much of the archival work as I can. At present, I am not aware of any other administrator undertaking similar efforts. I have reached out to one administrator who has left a number of incomplete changes, but they appear to have disengaged. Given that, I am focusing on what can reasonably be addressed without taking on additional cleanup beyond routine, shutting-things-down-type work. : There are some things the 'crats typically need to do and I've pinged them in some cases to close discussions such as requests for permissions. As we get closer to D-Day, if nothing is done, I'll close more things down myself if necessary. : Regarding the incorrectly flagged articles, one major issue is the absence of a documented procedure for retracting articles, particularly in relation to [[:Category:No publish]]. A practical short-term fix would be to include all retracted stories in that category, or alternatively disable the DPL as the project winds down (DPL would likely be disabled as part of the mothballing process anyway). : That approach would leave the record as-is, including its shortcomings. At minimum, it preserves a complete account of how these issues were or were not handled, which may be of value to anyone reviewing the project in the future.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} What's DPL? Thanks for what you are working on. If there is anything that non-admins can do to help, let us know. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:09, 11 April 2026 (UTC) ::: DPL is [[mw:Extension:DynamicPageList (third-party)]]. It is used not only on the Newsroom page, but also on the main page and all infoboxes (and more). <br> Our use of it (or rather ru.WN's use) has some [[w:User_talk:Jimbo_Wales/Archive_247#The_Wikimedia_Foundation_broke_Russian_Wikinews_again|history]]. We should have migrated off of it long ago. Part of me wonders if that factored in to the SPTF's decision to close Wikinews. <br> At any rate, it will no doubt be disabled, leaving an error on every page that uses it. I'm not sure how to change all of our infoboxes so that they still return something useful once DPL is disabled and the site is read-only. And there isn't enough of a community left to try to figure it out, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:17, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::I didn't receive any pings for 'crat tasks. If you would like me to get them done, then, please leave a message on my talk page. Please do not rely on notifications to engage me in tasks or discussions in the next four weeks here, I would really appreciate it. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:16, 15 April 2026 (UTC) ::: {{tq|Please do not rely on notifications to engage me in tasks or discussions in the next four weeks here...}} ::: Alternatively, you could take responsibility for monitoring requests for bureaucrats and step in proactively where bureaucrat action is needed.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:05, 15 April 2026 (UTC) == In anticipation of DPL being disabled == I've started working through [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] removing DPL and replacing it with static lists. It's time-consuming and I alone won't get through all infoboxes, before the project is marked read-only and DPL likely is disabled. All admin are encouraged to help. See the edit histories of the following as examples of how I do it: [[Template:2005 London bombing infobox]]<br> [[Template:2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]]<br> [[Template:2006EuropeanChampionshipsAthletics]]<br> [[Template:2007 Iranian seizure of Royal Navy personnel]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei 101 Run Up]]<br> [[Template:2007 Taipei IT Month]] We'll need to do similar work on normal infoboxes, which are more complicated, as well as the Main page, etc.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:40, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :I was going to suggest raw HTML or even [[:mw:subst:|subst:]] the templates. How were you doing it, Michael? Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 15:30, 12 April 2026 (UTC) ::Some of the infoboxes are not admin-protected, so I will help with replacing the DPL with static lists where I can. I just did that for [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 15:55, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :: Using subst might be a much better solution...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :: {{tq|Are you looking at the web page's code and copy/pasting the HTML?}} :: Yes, that is essentially what I'm doing. Several categories of infoboxes are 'cookie-cutter' in that they are set up the same. For example, most of the [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] are set up the same, so it's relatively easy to rebuild them slightly and copy/paste the DPL output as a static list using wikitext. I linked to two examples [[#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260413171000-Country_Infoboxes|below]] and have since done several in the same manner. It is more pragmatic than ideal, and better alternatives are welcome. :: We still have roughly {{PAGESINCATEGORY:Pages using the DynamicPageList extension}} pages using DPL—most of them are likely articles with infoboxes that use DPL. So there is less work than actually having to touch that many individual pages.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:16, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link: [[:Category:Infoboxes]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:05, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::I have also done the following: :::[[Template:WDSC2007]]<br> :::[[Template:Tour de France 2007]] :::So I recommend that the admins focus on the protected templates and leave the unprotected templates for editors like me to handle. Each template takes only a few minutes to edit. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:07, 12 April 2026 (UTC) :::: Much appreciated and I'll start focussing only on protected first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:27, 13 April 2026 (UTC) *{{ping|Michael.C.Wright}} Is there a reason not to keep using [[Template:Infosection]] in these infoboxes, rather than replacing it with <nowiki><div style="background: #bce1ff; color: #202122; padding: 2px; text-align: center; style; font-size: normal;">...</nowiki>? --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:10, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **Also, I notice that the underlying articles linked from [[Template:WDSC2007]] are displaying the updated infobox (see [[2007 World Deaf Swimming Championships Day 5: A fantastic ending]], for example), but those from [[Template:Tour de France 2007]] and [[Template:War in Georgia (2008)]] are not (see [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]], for example). I'm not sure what the difference is. (The updated infoboxes use the correct dates for the underlying articles, rather than dating everything 17 February 2025.) --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 16:42, 12 April 2026 (UTC) **: The 17 February 2025 date was the result of work we did with the license upgrade and is therefore going to be incorrect according to the publish date, unfortunately. As I've removed DPLs, I have not been adding a date. Just a bulleted list that I copied and pasted.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::I knew about the 17 February 2025 problem from before. My point was that if I edit the dates in the infobox to be the correct date instead of 17 February 2025, I expect that if the infobox is displayed on other articles, it should be the corrected infobox rather than the uncorrected version. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 12:54, 13 April 2026 (UTC) **::: Ahh, sorry. I read it wrong. ::::: I just tested and do see that some of the changes aren't propagating as expected. I tested with [[Tour de France: Alberto Contador wins the grand tour]] and tried to purge that page using <code>?action=purge</code> on the end of the URL and that didn't pull in the changes. However, when I used <code><nowiki>{{subst:Tour de France 2007}}</nowiki></code> at that article, it did indeed pull in the changes. So I imagine (hope?) that we can carry on and eventually the changes will propagate. I have seen in the past, notably when I created categories such as [[:Category:Peer reviewed/Passed (exception)/Michael.C.Wright]], that it took days for the categories to be populated as expected. ::::: Unless of course someone else knows what's going on under the hood and knows a better approach.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:12, 13 April 2026 (UTC) ::::: See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T423512. It is possible that our [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Limit the FlaggedRevs extension to the article namespace?|disabling FlaggedRevs in the template namespace]] affected how pages transclude templates that were previously controlled by FlaggedRevs (which was what reviewers use to "sight" stable versions). ::::: The work-around for the Main page was to recreate the templates, which is not feasible here given the number of templates we're updating. ::::: I've updated the Phabricator ticket with this information in hopes that a more systemic solution is available, considering pending closure, DPL being disabled, etc., etc.,[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:28, 15 April 2026 (UTC) ** I don't know of any and you're right, it might be better to simply replace the DPL.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:26, 13 April 2026 (UTC) * I believe all that is left in [[:Category:Event infoboxes]] are infoboxes that call {{tl|Infobox}}, which utilizes [[:Template:Infobox/p2]] to generate DPLs. If someone has any ideas on how to tackle that, it would be a huge help in reducing the number of pages using DPL. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Courtesy link to all pages using DPL (note that pages in the main and category namespaces have it transcluded from a template): [[:Category:Pages using the DynamicPageList extension]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:19, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === State infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:State infoboxes]] to be static. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Alabama]] * [[:Template:Alaska]] I'm working in alphabetical order. Feel free to start at the bottom and work upwards if you'd like to lend a hand. The first two were fully protected, so this may be a job only for admins, unfortunately.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : {{done}} The states infoboxes are now converted from DPL to static[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:55, 13 April 2026 (UTC) === Country Infoboxes === I am now rebuilding [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] to be static, following the same process as done for State infoboxes. See the following, completed examples: * [[:Template:Afghanistan]] * [[:Template:Albania]] One was protected, one was not. Feel free to jump in where you can. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:10, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : Infoboxes in sections J, K, and L of [[:Category:Country infoboxes]] are completed. I'll continue down the list from M later today or tomorrow (Pacific Time), unless someone else gets there first.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:02, 13 April 2026 (UTC) : I will add that should we migrate and are able to continue our use of DPL ([[m:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260413211700-RhinosF1-20260413201600|which remains unclear]]) these changes should be easily revert-able. Most of my updates to these infoboxes were a single edit.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:28, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :: The good news is that [[m:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts#c-RhinosF1-20260414062300-Michael.C.Wright-20260413211700|Miraheze would support our DPL ]]should we fork to them. <br> The bad news is we don't know if WMF NY is going to assume stewardship of the project (we ''need'' a parent, 501(C)(3) to operate), if the WMF is going to relinquish the name and logo, or when those decisions are even expected to be made. <br> Therefore, I think we should continue our work winding things down. The older pages using DPL can remain static long-term or even permanently if we do migrate and the newer pages/templates can have DPL restored easily by reverting the changes. <br> I think later today I'll try to set up a project page to track and document what we've done to wind-down the project.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:32, 14 April 2026 (UTC) : I have created the following page to ID and track work we want to do before the project is marked read-only: : ::[[Wikinews:2026 Wind-down Wikinews]] : : This work '''assumes no migration will be done.''' If we migrate, some or even all of the work may need to be reverted. See [[m:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]] for any updates on a potential migration.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:54, 15 April 2026 (UTC) == Imminent migration tasks == Hello, I stopped reviewing for next few weeks to allocate resources for migration. I am requesting you to please let me know what I can do to help. Link to the migration discussion "[[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]", and I would like to invite you to participate. For now there is one possible venue with joined Miraheze and Wikimedia NYC hosting but their communication appears to be happening off-wiki as far as I know and I do not know their possible result nor the timing of that discussion. I am grateful for anything that you may do to help. If the migration is completed I am willing to commit to reviewing more timely and to build an infrastructure and workflow that results in reasonably accurate and fresh stories being published and to help the group grow. I refused to help with article archival, because I do not wish to be involved in quality checks at this stage. '''If there are specific non-controversial tasks related to migration that you would like my help with, please let me know.''' Many thanks. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:12, 15 April 2026 (UTC) == Star walker == User:Star walker troll sockpuppet of AnotherWikipedian @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 11:39, 27 April 2026 (UTC) :Anohthterwikipedian @[[User:Anohthterwikipedian|Anohthterwikipedian]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 11:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC) :: I am not a CheckUser and therefore I can not check for sock accounts. :: We now use global check user services (through Stewards), which you are welcome to request here: [[m:SRCU]]. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:30, 27 April 2026 (UTC) == abuse filter mismatch for Adding email addresses to articles == I received a warning for an edit to [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]] regarding the abuse rule "Adding email addresses to articles". This pertained to the addition of a {{tl|verify}} link to [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ the Wikimedia-l posting in which Victoria Doronina announced the closure of Wikinews]. I'm posting here because the abuse filter warning says, "Please send us a note if you received this message in error" (with "send us a note" linked to [[Wikinews:Admin action alerts]]. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:05, 29 April 2026 (UTC) *Note that it may not be necessary to do anything about this before Wikinews closes. However, if the same abuse filter is used on other Wikimedia sites, it may be desirable to review it at a later date. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:23, 29 April 2026 (UTC) *: It triggered because you have fewer than 1,000 edits and the URL essentially contains an email address "wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org." :: I updated the filter in an attempt to permit similar URLs. Do you mind testing it again? Thanks. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 12:46, 29 April 2026 (UTC) :::I did try it again just now, but again the edit was blocked. As I said before, with Wikinews about to close, this isn't necessarily something that needs to be dealt with this week before the closure. If the article can get reviewed without that source being tagged with {{tl|verify}}, that's fine. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:10, 30 April 2026 (UTC) :::: {{tq|As I said before, with Wikinews about to close, this isn't necessarily something that needs to be dealt with this week before the closure.}} :::: I understood that. I was just curious if I could fix the problem. :::: When I [[Special:AbuseFilter/test/16|tested]] the changes, it indicated the edits would not match the filter. But this is my first time working with the abuse filter. I could have tested it incorrectly and not know it. 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{{guideline|[[:WN:BREAK]]}} ''For a list of current breaking news stories, see also [[:Category:Breaking News]]''. The "breaking" label is generally best reserved for urgent, unexpected events that are actively unfolding and where timely reporting is especially important. In the event of a major breaking news event, we need to organize ourselves to give the best possible coverage. {{policy nav1}} Here are guidelines you can follow - if you're the first person to react, follow the [[Wikinews:Breaking news#First moments|First moments]] advice, and if the story is already on the site, read the [[Wikinews:Breaking news#As the story unfolds|As the story unfolds]] advice section. Finally, the [[Wikinews:Breaking news#If you are at the scene|If you are at the scene]] section gives suggestions in case you ever find yourself at the scene of a major story. ==First moments== ===Create an article=== It is very important to create an article about the event as soon as possible to prevent multiple articles being created. Go to the [[Wikinews:Newsroom|Newsroom]] and start your article. Submit it for {{tl|breaking review}} as soon as you can by changing {{tl|develop}} to {{tl|breaking review}}. When published, the article will have {{tl|breaking}} at its top to advise readers information can change quickly as more details emerge; it should be removed as the story settles down. ===List sources=== List your sources as soon as you find them. If you're hearing it on a live broadcast, use the {{tl|broadcast report}} tag in the Sources section, then explain on the Talk page what you're listening to or watching, and what's being said. ==As the story unfolds== ===Connect to IRC=== During breaking news situations, you may want to join our [[WN:IRC|IRC]] (Internet Relay Chat) channel to help coordinate things. IRC is never required, and is merely used to communicate in real time, share sources, and discuss events. We have the [irc://irc.libera.chat/#wikinews #wikinews] channel on the server irc.libera.chat. ===Find sources=== In the first moments of a major event we need [[Wikinews:Cite sources|sources]] as soon as possible. Try searching on [http://news.google.com/ Google News] (has a 15 minute delay) and [http://news.yahoo.com/ Yahoo News] (can be quicker for "news wire" articles), and listening to live radio streams. Post your sources in the IRC channel so people can read them, and add them to the article. ===Minimizing edit conflicts=== As the number of editors working on an article increase, edit conflicts become more frequent. There are several steps you can take to reduce the likelihood of an edit conflict. # '''Divide the article into sections.''' You can divide the article into sections by adding <nowiki>==Section title==</nowiki> above a section of text. If you use the visual editor, format the line as ''heading''. To avoid an edit conflict, edit one section at a time. An example of this can be found at [[Coordinated terrorist attack hits London]]. # '''Write your additions somewhere else first, then add them to the article.''' In many cases, it is easier to make your additions to an article at another location before adding it to the frequently-edited article. The easiest way to do this is to open a blank text document on your computer using a text editor program. You can then copy that text into the article. ===For new developments, start new articles=== The main article can cover the primary event. However, for new developments - responses from political leaders, updates on casualty tolls, arrests etc - ''start new articles''. Remember we're a news service, not an encyclopedia, and we want to highlight new developments to our readers as soon as they're verified. If the original article would not get reviewed in due time, you may use the new developments to [[Wikinews:Gatwicking|refocus it]], thus saving much of the original content. By that time the original focal point has most likely lost its breaking status. ===Renaming articles=== Avoid renaming published articles if at all possible since this may affect outside pages and newsfeeds who may be linking to Wikinews. Choose a headline specific to the incident without being too detail-specific because of its breaking nature. ==If you are at the scene== {{InfoboxStart|infotitle=Current Breaking<br/>News Stories}} {{InfoboxEnd}} If you are online near the scene, add a comment to the story's Talk page saying where you are and adding notes for any original reporting. You may find it easier to add quick reports on the Talk page which other editors can then add to the story, especially as information which may turn out to be rumours on the ground can be checked out by others with access to wider information. 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[[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 04:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC) :Thanks for your response. I respect your opinion, though I also respectfully disagree, as a perusal of similar types of news stories about this organization seems to hold that [http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=%22Mormon+Church%22&btnG=Search+News "Mormon Church"], is used more frequently than [http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=%22The+Church+of+Jesus+Christ+of+Latter-day+Saints%22&btnG=Search "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"]. Thanks for the polite response. Cheers, [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 19:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC) ==Thanks!== Thank you for taking the time to point out the transcription error in [[Interview with US political activist and philosopher Noam Chomsky|this]] article about Noam Chomsky. I had to listen to it several times before I was sure exactly what he said. Good ears;). [[User:Gopher65|Gopher65]]_{<small>[[User_talk:Gopher65|<font color="green">talk</font>]]</small>} 23:13, 11 August 2011 (UTC) You're very and thank you Justin for reading my news. did you like it? [[User:Sara walker|Sara walker]] ([[User talk:Sara walker|talk]]) 01:30, 8 February 2018 (UTC) Tell a title of one of your news Justin [[User:Sara walker|Sara walker]] ([[User talk:Sara walker|talk]]) 01:31, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Sara walker}} News stories I have written are on my user page. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:28, 8 February 2018 (UTC) == Moving images to Commons == Hi. Just wanted to explain a bit why I rv'd your seemingly perfectly reasonable edit on the image. I don't particularly dispute the point about it being ineligible for copyright. The thing is, though, there's a long and tragic history of Commons dissing Wikinews by deleting stuff (with neither warning nor notification) we are using and cannot replace, but which we could almost always upload locally under fair use if we knew it was about to happen. There's probably... usually... no malice at all involved, either, but one can't help thinking if Commons cared to it could easily set up an infrastructure to check whether a pending deletion would cause problems for a sister project that allows local uploads, and either notify them or even automatically do a local upload with some sort of copyright-justification-needed-within-x-amount-of-time tag. The worst incident I've seen was a Wikinews article we published with an image that had been sitting happily on Commons for something like six or seven years, and then a little more than a day after we published our article, while it was the number one lead on our main page so that this image was the single most prominent image displayed on our entire site, Commons deleted it. The icing on the cake was, this was just '''after''' the article was more than 24 hours post-publication, so that our archive policy had kicked in (the reason we can't replace most images that get deleted out from under us). So, once we've uploaded something locally, we're not likely to voluntarily delete it in favor of moving to Commons, making ourselves more vulnerable to the mishap of Commons deletion. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 14:05, 8 December 2012 (UTC) :'''Okay''' But if it gets deleted there, you can undelete it here. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC) ::Hm. An interesting thought, except that we don't ''know'' when an image we use here is deleted there. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 13:42, 10 December 2012 (UTC) :::'''Files''' You could have a tracking category like [[:w:Category:Articles_with_missing_files|Articles_with_missing_files]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:03, 11 December 2012 (UTC) ::::There are about... I think it's around 450 articles in our archives with missing images. Two and a fraction percent of our entire archive. Only earlier this year I created a template {{tl|missing image}} to try to at least neatify the articles involved. Small as Wikinews is, we need less stuff to keep track of, rather than more. ::::In the specific instance, though, I concede that ''if'' the image were ever deleted from Commons, sooner or later we would presumably notice and would then find it especially easy to fix. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 20:32, 11 December 2012 (UTC) == [[:Category:Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama]] == I hope this was an error here, I can't possibly see how anyone could argue the D.L. is not a Theologian. --[[User:Brian McNeil|''Brian McNeil'']] / ^{[[User talk:Brian McNeil|''talk'']]} 23:24, 5 June 2013 (UTC) == [[User:SarahStierch‎]] == Was that edit at the user's request? It's hard to follow what's going on here, locally. The impression I get hunting around is that Sarah's position at the WMF is over, is that correct? [[U:BRS|<font color="red">'''BRS'''</font>]] ^{[[User talk:Blood Red Sandman|<font color="red">(Talk)</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Blood Red Sandman|<font color="red">(Contribs)</font>]]} 14:22, 14 April 2014 (UTC) :[[mailarchive:wikimedia-l/2014-January/129466.html|Yes.]] [[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] ([[User talk:Microchip08|talk]]) 14:25, 14 April 2014 (UTC) ::'''Blood Red Sandman''' I notified her on en.voy. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:55, 15 April 2014 (UTC) == Reviewer?? == I saw that you'd requested Reviewer status some time ago....doesn't look like much has happened re: that request. It seems you've done some cat'ing around here (thanks for that!!). Outside of that, have you done much else in term of proofreading etc.? I think (if I'm interpreting things properly) you are into ''Wikidata'' a bit (a project FAR BEYOND the scope of my expertise). --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:56, 4 February 2015 (UTC) :{{Ping|Bddpaux}} You can see all of my WMF edits here, of course: [[Special:CentralAuth/Koavf]]. As you can see, I've been most active in sheer number of edits on en.wp, commons, data, en.ws, en.voy, and en.wikt. I've tried to do more on non-Wikipedia projects over the past two years and although I may not be as familiar with the norms at en.wn, I don't think reviewer is too much to ask considering my history here and elsewhere on WMF projects. If you do, that's fair. Alternately, if you have in mind some threshold I should cross, let me know. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC) ::That's cool and I'm with you there. But considering what I'd said in the comments section over on your request, the 'general' flow here goes: Newbie, Reporter, Accredited Reporter, Reviewer (aka 'Editor'), Administrator (and a few beyond that -- but those cross into inter-wiki roles). Now, what I just said is not canonical by any means! But reviewers spend a lot of time here reading, re-reading, proof'ing and taking action on article submissions (again, functioning as a news editor). It's not a glory-filled job...I can assure you!! I have no questions about your roles/contributions across the span of WMF, but 'Reviewer' means something REAL SPECIFIC here in these parts. So, if you REALLY WANT to, you're welcome to lurk here for a while, doing some plain-old copy edits and what-not (user Pi Zero has even taken action to make a lot of those mundane things a bit easier of-late). From there, we'll see where things can go. If others think your congealed meta-role qualifies you to be a reviewer here, then I'm willing to listen, but as user Blood Red Sandman pointed out, taking that route worked out badly in the past. We've seen (in the past) that users who come here, puffed up, looking for some badge-of-honor before proving themselves tend to create more problems than they fix and then run away mad. (I'm not accusing you of being one of those people, heck, ''I don't know you''); but God's-honest humility is the order-of-the-day around here if things are to succeed. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:02, 5 February 2015 (UTC) :::Not sure I'd go quite as far as to say it's normal to get Accredited Reporter before Reviewer, but it's certainly known. Accredited Reporter is based entirely on trust, so a user with little track record on ''Wikinews'' can get it if they're trusted by the community (although it's most common for users to do some writing first, then apply). For reviewer, it's not as high-trust. Trust is an element, of course, but reviewer is about competence with ''Wikinews'' policies and processes. I'm not aware of any other priv on any wiki where competence is required to be demonstrated in quite the way it is for reviewer. Write a couple of articles a week for, say, a month and the community will likely be tripping over itself to hand you reviewer. [[U:BRS|<font color="red">'''BRS'''</font>]] ^{[[User talk:Blood Red Sandman|<font color="red">(Talk)</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Blood Red Sandman|<font color="red">(Contribs)</font>]]} 19:45, 5 February 2015 (UTC) == [[Detroit teachers stage sickout to protest working conditions as Obama visits]] == Hi. Some difficulties; see '''[[Talk:Detroit teachers stage sickout to protest working conditions as Obama visits#{{anchorencode:Review of revision 4152278 [Not ready]}}|review comments]]'''. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 23:30, 20 January 2016 (UTC) : Published. Had difficulties, discussed in review comments. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 17:51, 21 January 2016 (UTC) ::{{Ping|Pi zero}} Thanks. I'm getting used to news writing and this is helpful. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:49, 22 January 2016 (UTC) == wikinews-l == Am I correct that you're admin for this list? --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 21:01, 17 July 2017 (UTC) :{{Ping|Pi zero}} Yes, I am one of two but I believe the other person has never actually been active in a year or so and I've been inactive for about two months. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:15, 17 July 2017 (UTC) :: Is it by any chance moderated? It's one of the places I send notices about en.wn ArbCom elections, but I suspect they never appear on the list. I sent one &mdash; now irrelevant &mdash; eight days ago, a real-time update on the state of nominations (which closed about 90 minutes ago), and the list informed me that it had received the message, but it looks to me as if the message never actually got sent to the list. I'd like to send a notice there when voting opens late tomorrow... if it's going to reach the list. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 21:37, 17 July 2017 (UTC) :::Sorry. I can check the archives and start moderating it more aggressively. The problem is that my computer literally snapped in half several weeks ago and I still haven't gotten a new one. :/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:49, 18 July 2017 (UTC) :::{{Ping|Pi zero}} Wow. I literally hadn't deleted my filter for a minute before I got spam. It gets several hundred messages a day. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:53, 18 July 2017 (UTC) :::: I can't decide whether I'm more impressed by "several hundred messages a day" or "literally snapped in half". Thanks. I'll plan to send my next notice to the list tomorrow. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 02:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC) :::::{{Ping|Pi zero}} Best to message me once you do. By the way, you have mail--not sure if you've seen it yet. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:16, 18 July 2017 (UTC) == [[Koreas hold joint training session for Olympics]] == I don't think I can make use of {{tl|reviewing}} for the article, but that is what I am doing. I would not call it {{tl|editing}} since I am not adding any information to it. If something needs to be changed, consider pinging me on IRC. I almost had an ec.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 06:41, 30 January 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Acagastya}} We used "selected" in earlier stories: it's a selection, not an election. As far as all the blue links, maybe just the word "bombed". Thoughts? {{Ping|Pi zero}}--is this passable? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 07:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC) :: it was a note for self. So that I do not forget to check. I am still reviewing it. Let me finish it.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 07:35, 30 January 2018 (UTC) ---- Julian Assange's appeal against lifting the arrest warrant was denied by UK court -- and I would not be able to write about it -- it is going to lose its freshness. Would you like to write about it?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 01:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Acagastya}} In short, yes but I don't have time. :/ I'm trying to write something about the Olympics opening ceremony. Thanks for the request--please keep me in mind for future stories. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:28, 8 February 2018 (UTC) ::oh there are tonnes of articles I wish someone could write because right now, there are five on the to-do list. Is there a way we could discuss about what to write? Any IMs? Telegram? Ping me on Telegram if you use it; my username is @acagastya [though I noticed @koavf isn’t registered]<br>[[Special:Contributions/223.237.211.254|223.237.211.254]] ([[User talk:223.237.211.254|talk]]) 03:37, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :::{{Ping|acagastya}} (this *is* you?) I'm not familiar with Telegram--usually if you want to talk off-wiki, I use email and that has an associated IM name. It's totally fine to send me an SMS, too. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:40, 8 February 2018 (UTC) ::::emails aren’t the best IMs. SMS from India to the US, that would be difficult, too. Well, I think you should try Telegram (it works on any platform, Android, iOS, Linux, macOS, Windows, and in browsers) and you would not even have to share your contact number to people for messaging.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 03:49, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :::::{{Ping|acagastya}} Oh, but I ''do'' have an IM account thru Gmail: justinkoavf. I can IM you that way. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:51, 8 February 2018 (UTC) {{od}} are you talking about Google Talk? (FWIW, I hardly use anything that is owned by Google, except for YouTube services, due to Google’s privacy policy and their love of selling our information) (By the way, the url is www.telegram.org)<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 04:04, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Acagastya}} That is correct. And yes, I have scaled back on using everything Google ''other'' than Gmail--unfortunately, one's email address is pretty fundamental. Let me take a look and get back with you. Unfortunately, I'm in the middle of an obit here now and I have so many other things going on outside of Wikinews and other wikis. :/ Do you want to set up a time to talk? That will force me to set aside time for us to collaborate. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:08, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :: No, we can chat while editing too. But currently, I need to leave for college. And the reviewers from UTC - zones should be sleeping so I need to write articles before they wake up. :-S<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 04:21, 8 February 2018 (UTC) == Quotations == We do not use “”. Instead, we use the plain ones "".<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 11:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC) : We try, anyway. (Modern software that "thinks" it knows better than we do can be ''really annoying'', can't it?&nbsp;:-)&nbsp; --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 13:22, 8 February 2018 (UTC) ::in iOS 10, the key displayed '”' but by default, it printed '"'. In iOS 11, it shows and prints '”'. And that is really annoying.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 14:17, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :::{{Ping|acagastya|Pi zero}} [citation needed]. We should use typographic quotes, since they are correct. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC) == Korean military parade == I don't know what is "newsworthy" in that story the way MSM is portraying it, but are you planning to write about it? If so, I suggest you to do it asap.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 16:42, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|acagastya}} I won't have a separate story, just a story on the opening of the Olympics that mentions that. I don't have time for separate ones. :/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:33, 8 February 2018 (UTC) == [[Poet, lyricist, and digital activist John Perry Barlow dies, aged 70]] == Alas, when I got to the end of the review, I couldn't remember all the thing I'd thought of during the review. (This is something I want a semi-automated review assistant to help with: keeping track, through a review, of notes on what to say at the end.) At any rate, I do try to split my edits during a review into small units that provide a meaningful diff and can be given a reasonably coherent edit summary; and if asked about a particular edit during the review, I can probably look at it and remember what it was about to provide a better explanation. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 02:33, 10 February 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Pi zero}} Hey sorry, what is this in regards to again...? Are you apologizing for something or something? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 06:22, 10 February 2018 (UTC) ::It is pizero's habit to explain (and thus, documenting what should be done in a particular situation) what they edited. Like for example, in one edit, they take care of [[WN:FUTURE]], they would explain in the edit summary -- that is how their review takes place so the authors can learn what to do and what not to do -- and when I was copyediting, I noticed the tone was not acceptable, I don't know if it is a NPOV problem or style problem (example, "Barlow is survived [...] loved ones across the world.") which is one of the things that should have been mentioned in the review comments, pizero and I, we both agree. What pizero means to say is, there were other things they wanted to point out in comments, but might have missed -- because it was a long review.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 08:10, 10 February 2018 (UTC) ::: The "So-and-so is survived by" is a stock phrase, of course. But... yeah, there was something a bit off about some phrases. I'm not sure how to sum it all up, but it may be discernible in the individual edits. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 12:01, 10 February 2018 (UTC) ::::{{Ping|Pi zero}} I think I see why you're posting, thanks. All your edit summaries made sense and I don't in principle disagree with any of your edits. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:12, 10 February 2018 (UTC) == chat == Seems you are technically advanced and open minded. I would like to have a 15 minutes talk about how you read and write news and ask for your guidance about a few things. What talking platform would you prefer? We could use [[WN:IRC|IRC]] text chat (my nick 'Sveta') or another place for audio chat, whatever you are more comfortable with. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]^{[[User talk:Gryllida|msg]]/[[WN:IRC|chat]]} 21:26, 7 October 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Gryllida}} Thanks for writing. I am very flexible on that--even the phone is fine with me. Tell me what method and give me two or three ranges of time. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:50, 8 October 2018 (UTC) ::Let's start with IRC (#wikinews channel) for simplicity. Does 19:00-20:00UTC work for you? If not, I can try to do a time between 22:00UTC and 06:00UTC, you choose (subject to availability - have several adhoc meetings this week). --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]^{[[User talk:Gryllida|msg]]/[[WN:IRC|chat]]} 03:19, 8 October 2018 (UTC) :::{{Ping|Gryllida}} Sorry this is taking so long. :/ Would a phone call work for you? Or IMing? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:06, 11 October 2018 (UTC) ::::Either option would work equally well. It is just that I am in Australia and international calls can be expensive so I would rather try IRC chat first. Another option is online audio chat via for example SIP or Jitsi or a standard HTML5 audio chat app but for me it is difficult because I do not have a smartphone to do such calls from and none of my desktops are in a good place or time to have a conversation. --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[WN:IRC|chat]]) 03:24, 11 October 2018 (UTC) :::::{{Ping|Gryllida}} Okay, please choose a time Over the next 48 hours and I'll make it. Thanks. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:38, 12 October 2018 (UTC) ::::::Now (for the next hour), or Sydney this Saturday morning 6AM (again one hour). Failing that, the same time on any weekday (again in Sydney). --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[WN:IRC|chat]]) 01:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC) :::::::{{Ping|Gryllida}} Signing on now... —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:00, 12 October 2018 (UTC) ::::::::I see you, but not any messages from you (as of yet). In the text box at the bottom type hi and press enter, or use another webchat ([http://www.kiwiirc.com/client/irc.gnu.org/wikinews]). --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[WN:IRC|chat]]) 02:05, 12 October 2018 (UTC) :::::::::I have a couple of messages that I've sent at https://webchat.freenode.net/. I'll try http://www.kiwiirc.com/client/irc.gnu.org/wikinews. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC) ::::::::::Cool, thanks. :-) --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[WN:IRC|chat]]) 05:36, 12 October 2018 (UTC) :::::::::::{{Ping|Gryllida}} I am signed on again--the friend who need a ride last nite needed more than just a ride. I'm not paying close attention to IRC so ping me there or post to my talk here to ensure that I see you. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:56, 12 October 2018 (UTC) I guess a next step is a meeting at 9PM Sydney time today, or Wednesday morning 6AM Sydney time. If you like, prepare a story that you find interesting to write about. Otherwise I can pick one and we could walk through writing that. I think we may need approximately 30 minutes to begin with. --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[WN:IRC|chat]]) 08:20, 13 October 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Gryllida}} I'm signed on now--same situation where I'm not actively paying attention but a ping here or a direct message on IRC will probably get my attention (the latter makes a noise, so that helps). It looks like 21:00 in Sydney is in about 3.5 hours--I will just stay on IRC thru then. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC) == deleting == why did u delete i m trying to help get a news article published. [[User:Baozon90|Baozon90]] ([[User talk:Baozon90|talk]]) 22:42, 22 September 2019 (UTC) :{{Ping|Baozon90}} You posted the same thing on both [[Wikinews:Requested articles]] (where it belongs) and [[Wikinews talk:Requested articles]] (which is only used for discussing the requested articles page) and I only removed it from one of those two places. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 22:53, 22 September 2019 (UTC) == Ramirez5 == [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:6516:39B3:BC54:57DD:AC53:FD7D|2601:647:6516:39B3:BC54:57DD:AC53:FD7D]] ([[User talk:2601:647:6516:39B3:BC54:57DD:AC53:FD7D|talk]]) 22:56, 29 March 2022 (UTC) Starwars is NO MORE :Oh, okay. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:00, 29 March 2022 (UTC) == Article?? == You haven't submitted an article in a bit? You've done some interesting work here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC) :I have three exclusive interviews that I wanted to publish at times that made sense and a fourth one lined up. I prefer to do original reporting otherwise, I ''sometimes'' will do some of the "I read other news sources and summarized them, but it's mostly a matter of there only being 24&nbsp;hours in a day and my attention going elsewhere. :/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC) == coding == Do you program in JavaScript? Could you write a script that helps with article archival? Something like [[User:Gryllida/js/TagAbandoned.js|this]] that also protects the page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:39, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :Not really. All I have ever done in scripting is reverse engineering and tweaking things. I have barely written a script from start to finish, so I'm pretty ignorant about that. Maybe a 3/10 in JavaScript? 2/10? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:23, 4 March 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] would you agree if i nominated you for adminship? i can help with the coding parts but i find article deletions and protected requests pretty boring beyond belief. i am happy to help you (do you use sip, matrix, discord or telegram?() [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:13, 26 August 2025 (UTC) :::I'd be honored to serve however I can. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:22, 26 August 2025 (UTC) :::{{Ping|Gryllida}} Are you motivated to do this still? If so, I'll happily do some work here. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:52, 3 September 2025 (UTC) ::::yup thanks a min [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:42, 3 September 2025 (UTC) :::::[[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Koavf|Nomination added]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:50, 3 September 2025 (UTC) == Welcome to adminship at English Wikinews == Hi Koavf Welcome to being a sysop at the site. * Please subscribe to [[WN:AAA]], this is where majority of requests are added, including requests from non-sysops for sysop action, and requests from sysops to get help from other sysops on any admin action. * Recommended to check recent changes at least once a day, if not more frequently. * Recommended to 'subscribe' to all Water coolers (there is 5 or 6 of them). * If you're on IRC, I can provide you access to the admins/sysops channel; message user 'gry' on IRC for this request. * This is a point to any user at Wikinews. Burnout has been a frequent issue. If you're getting overwhelmed, take a break for a few weeks, with a note on user page when you are planning to come back. I personally encourage myself to do this at least twice a year, although this may be different for other users. Thank you for volunteering. Please let me know if you have got any questions. Many thanks. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 08:21, 23 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks. I'm honored. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:46, 23 November 2025 (UTC) == A Barnstar for you! == [[File:Wikivandelmedal.PNG|framed|left|The Medal of Persistence]] Thank you for promptly and effectively addressing disruptions upon taking office. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :How kind. Thanks on Thanksgiving. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 10:36, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Happy Thanksgiving! ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:42, 27 November 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Grateful Dead bassist Bob Weir dies, aged 78]] (January 16) == i spelled out group name assuming meant to be 'the Grateful Dead' where says 'the Dead': please correct this now if this is not correct. thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:58, 15 January 2026 (UTC) :Thanks kindly and you are correct. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:31, 15 January 2026 (UTC) ::Ok. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:32, 16 January 2026 (UTC) == NEWS STREAK idea proposal == Hi Koavf [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition|NEWS STREAK idea proposal]] would you like to sign up? It hasn't started yet, but I am collecting interest, and you can '''add your nick to the page'''. If you're not doing content edits frequently you could choose another streak period for your news content participation - for example, once each two months rather than once each two weeks... ---- It is being proposed to setup [[:w:streak]] goals over a 12 week period: for example, * "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" This could be either authoring a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused editing on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' to address concerns from another user or reviewer. The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? Parameters are subject to discussion e.g. * 'once every two weeks' or 'once a week' or 'once a month' * should this be same for all or each person decides for themselves * how long total comp running for, 12 weeks or 24 weeks or some other time * some other ideas how to modify this i would appreciate if you could reply '''by end of this week''', it would be helpful please note if you are interested you may signup in [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition]] at page bottom and you will be notified at your talk page if there are any updates or progress of this idea thanks a lot ---- Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:25, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :thank you for signing up, Koavf. i added one more column, the '''frequency''' -- for example, 'two weeks'. this is the streak frequency parameter you would prefer. for example, 'two weeks' means you would suggest that you work towards publishing one story per each two weeks. if you miss third and fourth week and work towards publishing on week five, then the streak is lost. so longer time period (every 4 weeks can be easier than every 2 weeks) can be easier. please add yours, when you have a moment. :-) regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:48, 23 February 2026 (UTC) == CAT deletions == Hi, I saw you deleted a bunch of categories including [[:CAT:September 15, 2018]], that too without a deletion comment -- why is that so? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:13, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I did, in fact, delete a bunch of empty categories, yes. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::I am aware that you did. I am asking as to why -- because we have had those empty date cats since forever.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:05, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::I'm trying to do clean-up of all the maintenance reports before this becomes read-only. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 12:25, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Is there a reason to remove all these CATs which we have always had for tracking purpose? if not, please restore them. [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 16:57, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::::The reason is the one I gave above: they are empty categories. What purpose could they serve? There are also categories for dates post-locking of this wiki. How could anyone possibly be helped by that? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:06, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::::Those empty cats were tracking cats for if there was any news published that day XOR not -- for people to be able to access it. Empty cat shows that there was indeed nothing published rather than having some blunder on-wiki. This breaks pages like [[:Category:March 22, 2026]] by saying "create Category:March 23, 2026". Please do not break the age-long functionality of enwn.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::::::I'm not really sure that an empty category that gets [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikinews.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2025-04-01&end=2026-04-01&pages=Category:September_1,_2006 one view every four days] while the site is still active is very useful, but I can undelete them. It will take a little time. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:35, 3 April 2026 (UTC) == Thank you == Hi Koavf I am writing to you because I am not reviewing articles for next few weeks due to imminent migration. * I had decided not to review articles after mid-April due to possible required time and effort for migration. Link to the migration discussion "[[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]", and I would like to invite you to participate. For now there is one possible venue with joined Miraheze and Wikimedia NYC hosting but their communication appears to be happening off-wiki as far as I know and I do not know their possible result nor the timing of that discussion. I am grateful for anything that you may do to help. *If the migration is completed I am willing to commit to reviewing more timely and to build an infrastructure and workflow that results in reasonably accurate and fresh stories being published and to help the group grow. * I appreciate you being here, your help with software and discussions has made my editing here more meaningful for me and it would not be the same without you. If there are specific tasks related to migration that you would like my help with, please let me know. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:09, 15 April 2026 (UTC) :Thanks and right back atcha. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 13:27, 15 April 2026 (UTC) == [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]] == Thank you for taking the initiative to get the [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]] article started. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:38, 30 April 2026 (UTC) 7fp9vf6nv1bg8ph5fgpaspkfm131g85 5023174 5023170 2026-04-30T14:40:58Z Koavf 5879 /* Wikinews closes after 21 years */ Reply 5023174 wikitext text/x-wiki ==Welcome== {{PAGENAME}}, welcome to Wikinews! Thank you for your contributions; I hope you like the place and decide to stay! If you haven't done so already, you may want to [[Special:Userlogin|create an account]]. '''Our key policies''' - if you read anything, read these! *[[Wikinews:Neutral point of view]] - tell every side to a story in a fair and balanced way *[[Wikinews:Cite sources]] - everything in a Wikinews article ''must'' be sourced Here a few pointers to help you '''get to know Wikinews''': *[[Wikinews:Introduction]] - overview of the site *[[Wikinews:Writing an article]] - how to write and publish a complete article *[[Wikinews:Content guide]] - what's suitable for Wikinews *[[Wikinews:Contents]] - the contents page. *[[Wikinews:Newsroom]] - The comunity portal There are always '''things to do''' on Wikinews: *[[Template:Latest news|Existing articles]] need expanding and checking for spelling and mistakes *The front page lead articles often need [[Wikinews:Workspace#Update leads|updating]] *[[Wikinews:Workspace#Work on current stories|Developing stories]] need finishing and publishing *[[Wikinews:Water cooler|Discussions]] need your input *And of course, stories need [[Wikinews:Writing an article|writing]]! By the way, you can sign your name on Talk pages using four tildes (<nowiki>&#126;&#126;&#126;&#126;</nowiki>), which produces your name and the current date. If you have any questions, you can ask them at the [[Wikinews:Water cooler|water cooler]] or to anyone on the [[Wikinews:Welcommittee|Welcommittee]], or ask me on my Talk page. Again, welcome! [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] ☺☻[[image:smile.png]] 04:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC) == [[Wikimedia Foundation receives copyright infringement claim from Mormon Church]] == From [[w:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]] -- "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, widely known as the '''LDS Church''' or the '''Mormon Church'''..." I went with "Mormon Church" because this is a "widely known" name as well, and to use the entire "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" is very very long in the headline of an article. I hope you do not mind if I move it back. [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 04:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC) :Thanks for your response. I respect your opinion, though I also respectfully disagree, as a perusal of similar types of news stories about this organization seems to hold that [http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=%22Mormon+Church%22&btnG=Search+News "Mormon Church"], is used more frequently than [http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=us&q=%22The+Church+of+Jesus+Christ+of+Latter-day+Saints%22&btnG=Search "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints"]. Thanks for the polite response. Cheers, [[User:Cirt|Cirt]] ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 19:07, 14 May 2008 (UTC) ==Thanks!== Thank you for taking the time to point out the transcription error in [[Interview with US political activist and philosopher Noam Chomsky|this]] article about Noam Chomsky. I had to listen to it several times before I was sure exactly what he said. Good ears;). [[User:Gopher65|Gopher65]]_{<small>[[User_talk:Gopher65|<font color="green">talk</font>]]</small>} 23:13, 11 August 2011 (UTC) You're very and thank you Justin for reading my news. did you like it? [[User:Sara walker|Sara walker]] ([[User talk:Sara walker|talk]]) 01:30, 8 February 2018 (UTC) Tell a title of one of your news Justin [[User:Sara walker|Sara walker]] ([[User talk:Sara walker|talk]]) 01:31, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Sara walker}} News stories I have written are on my user page. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:28, 8 February 2018 (UTC) == Moving images to Commons == Hi. Just wanted to explain a bit why I rv'd your seemingly perfectly reasonable edit on the image. I don't particularly dispute the point about it being ineligible for copyright. The thing is, though, there's a long and tragic history of Commons dissing Wikinews by deleting stuff (with neither warning nor notification) we are using and cannot replace, but which we could almost always upload locally under fair use if we knew it was about to happen. There's probably... usually... no malice at all involved, either, but one can't help thinking if Commons cared to it could easily set up an infrastructure to check whether a pending deletion would cause problems for a sister project that allows local uploads, and either notify them or even automatically do a local upload with some sort of copyright-justification-needed-within-x-amount-of-time tag. The worst incident I've seen was a Wikinews article we published with an image that had been sitting happily on Commons for something like six or seven years, and then a little more than a day after we published our article, while it was the number one lead on our main page so that this image was the single most prominent image displayed on our entire site, Commons deleted it. The icing on the cake was, this was just '''after''' the article was more than 24 hours post-publication, so that our archive policy had kicked in (the reason we can't replace most images that get deleted out from under us). So, once we've uploaded something locally, we're not likely to voluntarily delete it in favor of moving to Commons, making ourselves more vulnerable to the mishap of Commons deletion. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 14:05, 8 December 2012 (UTC) :'''Okay''' But if it gets deleted there, you can undelete it here. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC) ::Hm. An interesting thought, except that we don't ''know'' when an image we use here is deleted there. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 13:42, 10 December 2012 (UTC) :::'''Files''' You could have a tracking category like [[:w:Category:Articles_with_missing_files|Articles_with_missing_files]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:03, 11 December 2012 (UTC) ::::There are about... I think it's around 450 articles in our archives with missing images. Two and a fraction percent of our entire archive. Only earlier this year I created a template {{tl|missing image}} to try to at least neatify the articles involved. Small as Wikinews is, we need less stuff to keep track of, rather than more. ::::In the specific instance, though, I concede that ''if'' the image were ever deleted from Commons, sooner or later we would presumably notice and would then find it especially easy to fix. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 20:32, 11 December 2012 (UTC) == [[:Category:Tenzin Gyatso, 14th Dalai Lama]] == I hope this was an error here, I can't possibly see how anyone could argue the D.L. is not a Theologian. --[[User:Brian McNeil|''Brian McNeil'']] / ^{[[User talk:Brian McNeil|''talk'']]} 23:24, 5 June 2013 (UTC) == [[User:SarahStierch‎]] == Was that edit at the user's request? It's hard to follow what's going on here, locally. The impression I get hunting around is that Sarah's position at the WMF is over, is that correct? [[U:BRS|<font color="red">'''BRS'''</font>]] ^{[[User talk:Blood Red Sandman|<font color="red">(Talk)</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Blood Red Sandman|<font color="red">(Contribs)</font>]]} 14:22, 14 April 2014 (UTC) :[[mailarchive:wikimedia-l/2014-January/129466.html|Yes.]] [[User:Microchip08|Microchip08]] ([[User talk:Microchip08|talk]]) 14:25, 14 April 2014 (UTC) ::'''Blood Red Sandman''' I notified her on en.voy. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:55, 15 April 2014 (UTC) == Reviewer?? == I saw that you'd requested Reviewer status some time ago....doesn't look like much has happened re: that request. It seems you've done some cat'ing around here (thanks for that!!). Outside of that, have you done much else in term of proofreading etc.? I think (if I'm interpreting things properly) you are into ''Wikidata'' a bit (a project FAR BEYOND the scope of my expertise). --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:56, 4 February 2015 (UTC) :{{Ping|Bddpaux}} You can see all of my WMF edits here, of course: [[Special:CentralAuth/Koavf]]. As you can see, I've been most active in sheer number of edits on en.wp, commons, data, en.ws, en.voy, and en.wikt. I've tried to do more on non-Wikipedia projects over the past two years and although I may not be as familiar with the norms at en.wn, I don't think reviewer is too much to ask considering my history here and elsewhere on WMF projects. If you do, that's fair. Alternately, if you have in mind some threshold I should cross, let me know. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC) ::That's cool and I'm with you there. But considering what I'd said in the comments section over on your request, the 'general' flow here goes: Newbie, Reporter, Accredited Reporter, Reviewer (aka 'Editor'), Administrator (and a few beyond that -- but those cross into inter-wiki roles). Now, what I just said is not canonical by any means! But reviewers spend a lot of time here reading, re-reading, proof'ing and taking action on article submissions (again, functioning as a news editor). It's not a glory-filled job...I can assure you!! I have no questions about your roles/contributions across the span of WMF, but 'Reviewer' means something REAL SPECIFIC here in these parts. So, if you REALLY WANT to, you're welcome to lurk here for a while, doing some plain-old copy edits and what-not (user Pi Zero has even taken action to make a lot of those mundane things a bit easier of-late). From there, we'll see where things can go. If others think your congealed meta-role qualifies you to be a reviewer here, then I'm willing to listen, but as user Blood Red Sandman pointed out, taking that route worked out badly in the past. We've seen (in the past) that users who come here, puffed up, looking for some badge-of-honor before proving themselves tend to create more problems than they fix and then run away mad. (I'm not accusing you of being one of those people, heck, ''I don't know you''); but God's-honest humility is the order-of-the-day around here if things are to succeed. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:02, 5 February 2015 (UTC) :::Not sure I'd go quite as far as to say it's normal to get Accredited Reporter before Reviewer, but it's certainly known. Accredited Reporter is based entirely on trust, so a user with little track record on ''Wikinews'' can get it if they're trusted by the community (although it's most common for users to do some writing first, then apply). For reviewer, it's not as high-trust. Trust is an element, of course, but reviewer is about competence with ''Wikinews'' policies and processes. I'm not aware of any other priv on any wiki where competence is required to be demonstrated in quite the way it is for reviewer. Write a couple of articles a week for, say, a month and the community will likely be tripping over itself to hand you reviewer. [[U:BRS|<font color="red">'''BRS'''</font>]] ^{[[User talk:Blood Red Sandman|<font color="red">(Talk)</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Blood Red Sandman|<font color="red">(Contribs)</font>]]} 19:45, 5 February 2015 (UTC) == [[Detroit teachers stage sickout to protest working conditions as Obama visits]] == Hi. Some difficulties; see '''[[Talk:Detroit teachers stage sickout to protest working conditions as Obama visits#{{anchorencode:Review of revision 4152278 [Not ready]}}|review comments]]'''. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 23:30, 20 January 2016 (UTC) : Published. Had difficulties, discussed in review comments. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 17:51, 21 January 2016 (UTC) ::{{Ping|Pi zero}} Thanks. I'm getting used to news writing and this is helpful. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:49, 22 January 2016 (UTC) == wikinews-l == Am I correct that you're admin for this list? --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 21:01, 17 July 2017 (UTC) :{{Ping|Pi zero}} Yes, I am one of two but I believe the other person has never actually been active in a year or so and I've been inactive for about two months. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:15, 17 July 2017 (UTC) :: Is it by any chance moderated? It's one of the places I send notices about en.wn ArbCom elections, but I suspect they never appear on the list. I sent one &mdash; now irrelevant &mdash; eight days ago, a real-time update on the state of nominations (which closed about 90 minutes ago), and the list informed me that it had received the message, but it looks to me as if the message never actually got sent to the list. I'd like to send a notice there when voting opens late tomorrow... if it's going to reach the list. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 21:37, 17 July 2017 (UTC) :::Sorry. I can check the archives and start moderating it more aggressively. The problem is that my computer literally snapped in half several weeks ago and I still haven't gotten a new one. :/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:49, 18 July 2017 (UTC) :::{{Ping|Pi zero}} Wow. I literally hadn't deleted my filter for a minute before I got spam. It gets several hundred messages a day. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:53, 18 July 2017 (UTC) :::: I can't decide whether I'm more impressed by "several hundred messages a day" or "literally snapped in half". Thanks. I'll plan to send my next notice to the list tomorrow. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 02:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC) :::::{{Ping|Pi zero}} Best to message me once you do. By the way, you have mail--not sure if you've seen it yet. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:16, 18 July 2017 (UTC) == [[Koreas hold joint training session for Olympics]] == I don't think I can make use of {{tl|reviewing}} for the article, but that is what I am doing. I would not call it {{tl|editing}} since I am not adding any information to it. If something needs to be changed, consider pinging me on IRC. I almost had an ec.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 06:41, 30 January 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Acagastya}} We used "selected" in earlier stories: it's a selection, not an election. As far as all the blue links, maybe just the word "bombed". Thoughts? {{Ping|Pi zero}}--is this passable? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 07:08, 30 January 2018 (UTC) :: it was a note for self. So that I do not forget to check. I am still reviewing it. Let me finish it.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 07:35, 30 January 2018 (UTC) ---- Julian Assange's appeal against lifting the arrest warrant was denied by UK court -- and I would not be able to write about it -- it is going to lose its freshness. Would you like to write about it?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 01:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Acagastya}} In short, yes but I don't have time. :/ I'm trying to write something about the Olympics opening ceremony. Thanks for the request--please keep me in mind for future stories. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:28, 8 February 2018 (UTC) ::oh there are tonnes of articles I wish someone could write because right now, there are five on the to-do list. Is there a way we could discuss about what to write? Any IMs? Telegram? Ping me on Telegram if you use it; my username is @acagastya [though I noticed @koavf isn’t registered]<br>[[Special:Contributions/223.237.211.254|223.237.211.254]] ([[User talk:223.237.211.254|talk]]) 03:37, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :::{{Ping|acagastya}} (this *is* you?) I'm not familiar with Telegram--usually if you want to talk off-wiki, I use email and that has an associated IM name. It's totally fine to send me an SMS, too. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:40, 8 February 2018 (UTC) ::::emails aren’t the best IMs. SMS from India to the US, that would be difficult, too. Well, I think you should try Telegram (it works on any platform, Android, iOS, Linux, macOS, Windows, and in browsers) and you would not even have to share your contact number to people for messaging.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 03:49, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :::::{{Ping|acagastya}} Oh, but I ''do'' have an IM account thru Gmail: justinkoavf. I can IM you that way. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:51, 8 February 2018 (UTC) {{od}} are you talking about Google Talk? (FWIW, I hardly use anything that is owned by Google, except for YouTube services, due to Google’s privacy policy and their love of selling our information) (By the way, the url is www.telegram.org)<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 04:04, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Acagastya}} That is correct. And yes, I have scaled back on using everything Google ''other'' than Gmail--unfortunately, one's email address is pretty fundamental. Let me take a look and get back with you. Unfortunately, I'm in the middle of an obit here now and I have so many other things going on outside of Wikinews and other wikis. :/ Do you want to set up a time to talk? That will force me to set aside time for us to collaborate. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 04:08, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :: No, we can chat while editing too. But currently, I need to leave for college. And the reviewers from UTC - zones should be sleeping so I need to write articles before they wake up. :-S<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 04:21, 8 February 2018 (UTC) == Quotations == We do not use “”. Instead, we use the plain ones "".<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 11:11, 8 February 2018 (UTC) : We try, anyway. (Modern software that "thinks" it knows better than we do can be ''really annoying'', can't it?&nbsp;:-)&nbsp; --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 13:22, 8 February 2018 (UTC) ::in iOS 10, the key displayed '”' but by default, it printed '"'. In iOS 11, it shows and prints '”'. And that is really annoying.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 14:17, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :::{{Ping|acagastya|Pi zero}} [citation needed]. We should use typographic quotes, since they are correct. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:32, 8 February 2018 (UTC) == Korean military parade == I don't know what is "newsworthy" in that story the way MSM is portraying it, but are you planning to write about it? If so, I suggest you to do it asap.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 16:42, 8 February 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|acagastya}} I won't have a separate story, just a story on the opening of the Olympics that mentions that. I don't have time for separate ones. :/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:33, 8 February 2018 (UTC) == [[Poet, lyricist, and digital activist John Perry Barlow dies, aged 70]] == Alas, when I got to the end of the review, I couldn't remember all the thing I'd thought of during the review. (This is something I want a semi-automated review assistant to help with: keeping track, through a review, of notes on what to say at the end.) At any rate, I do try to split my edits during a review into small units that provide a meaningful diff and can be given a reasonably coherent edit summary; and if asked about a particular edit during the review, I can probably look at it and remember what it was about to provide a better explanation. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 02:33, 10 February 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Pi zero}} Hey sorry, what is this in regards to again...? Are you apologizing for something or something? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 06:22, 10 February 2018 (UTC) ::It is pizero's habit to explain (and thus, documenting what should be done in a particular situation) what they edited. Like for example, in one edit, they take care of [[WN:FUTURE]], they would explain in the edit summary -- that is how their review takes place so the authors can learn what to do and what not to do -- and when I was copyediting, I noticed the tone was not acceptable, I don't know if it is a NPOV problem or style problem (example, "Barlow is survived [...] loved ones across the world.") which is one of the things that should have been mentioned in the review comments, pizero and I, we both agree. What pizero means to say is, there were other things they wanted to point out in comments, but might have missed -- because it was a long review.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 08:10, 10 February 2018 (UTC) ::: The "So-and-so is survived by" is a stock phrase, of course. But... yeah, there was something a bit off about some phrases. I'm not sure how to sum it all up, but it may be discernible in the individual edits. --[[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] ([[User talk:Pi zero|talk]]) 12:01, 10 February 2018 (UTC) ::::{{Ping|Pi zero}} I think I see why you're posting, thanks. All your edit summaries made sense and I don't in principle disagree with any of your edits. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:12, 10 February 2018 (UTC) == chat == Seems you are technically advanced and open minded. I would like to have a 15 minutes talk about how you read and write news and ask for your guidance about a few things. What talking platform would you prefer? We could use [[WN:IRC|IRC]] text chat (my nick 'Sveta') or another place for audio chat, whatever you are more comfortable with. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]^{[[User talk:Gryllida|msg]]/[[WN:IRC|chat]]} 21:26, 7 October 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Gryllida}} Thanks for writing. I am very flexible on that--even the phone is fine with me. Tell me what method and give me two or three ranges of time. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:50, 8 October 2018 (UTC) ::Let's start with IRC (#wikinews channel) for simplicity. Does 19:00-20:00UTC work for you? If not, I can try to do a time between 22:00UTC and 06:00UTC, you choose (subject to availability - have several adhoc meetings this week). --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]^{[[User talk:Gryllida|msg]]/[[WN:IRC|chat]]} 03:19, 8 October 2018 (UTC) :::{{Ping|Gryllida}} Sorry this is taking so long. :/ Would a phone call work for you? Or IMing? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:06, 11 October 2018 (UTC) ::::Either option would work equally well. It is just that I am in Australia and international calls can be expensive so I would rather try IRC chat first. Another option is online audio chat via for example SIP or Jitsi or a standard HTML5 audio chat app but for me it is difficult because I do not have a smartphone to do such calls from and none of my desktops are in a good place or time to have a conversation. --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[WN:IRC|chat]]) 03:24, 11 October 2018 (UTC) :::::{{Ping|Gryllida}} Okay, please choose a time Over the next 48 hours and I'll make it. Thanks. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:38, 12 October 2018 (UTC) ::::::Now (for the next hour), or Sydney this Saturday morning 6AM (again one hour). Failing that, the same time on any weekday (again in Sydney). --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[WN:IRC|chat]]) 01:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC) :::::::{{Ping|Gryllida}} Signing on now... —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:00, 12 October 2018 (UTC) ::::::::I see you, but not any messages from you (as of yet). In the text box at the bottom type hi and press enter, or use another webchat ([http://www.kiwiirc.com/client/irc.gnu.org/wikinews]). --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[WN:IRC|chat]]) 02:05, 12 October 2018 (UTC) :::::::::I have a couple of messages that I've sent at https://webchat.freenode.net/. I'll try http://www.kiwiirc.com/client/irc.gnu.org/wikinews. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:10, 12 October 2018 (UTC) ::::::::::Cool, thanks. :-) --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[WN:IRC|chat]]) 05:36, 12 October 2018 (UTC) :::::::::::{{Ping|Gryllida}} I am signed on again--the friend who need a ride last nite needed more than just a ride. I'm not paying close attention to IRC so ping me there or post to my talk here to ensure that I see you. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:56, 12 October 2018 (UTC) I guess a next step is a meeting at 9PM Sydney time today, or Wednesday morning 6AM Sydney time. If you like, prepare a story that you find interesting to write about. Otherwise I can pick one and we could walk through writing that. I think we may need approximately 30 minutes to begin with. --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[WN:IRC|chat]]) 08:20, 13 October 2018 (UTC) :{{Ping|Gryllida}} I'm signed on now--same situation where I'm not actively paying attention but a ping here or a direct message on IRC will probably get my attention (the latter makes a noise, so that helps). It looks like 21:00 in Sydney is in about 3.5 hours--I will just stay on IRC thru then. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC) == deleting == why did u delete i m trying to help get a news article published. [[User:Baozon90|Baozon90]] ([[User talk:Baozon90|talk]]) 22:42, 22 September 2019 (UTC) :{{Ping|Baozon90}} You posted the same thing on both [[Wikinews:Requested articles]] (where it belongs) and [[Wikinews talk:Requested articles]] (which is only used for discussing the requested articles page) and I only removed it from one of those two places. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 22:53, 22 September 2019 (UTC) == Ramirez5 == [[Special:Contributions/2601:647:6516:39B3:BC54:57DD:AC53:FD7D|2601:647:6516:39B3:BC54:57DD:AC53:FD7D]] ([[User talk:2601:647:6516:39B3:BC54:57DD:AC53:FD7D|talk]]) 22:56, 29 March 2022 (UTC) Starwars is NO MORE :Oh, okay. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:00, 29 March 2022 (UTC) == Article?? == You haven't submitted an article in a bit? You've done some interesting work here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC) :I have three exclusive interviews that I wanted to publish at times that made sense and a fourth one lined up. I prefer to do original reporting otherwise, I ''sometimes'' will do some of the "I read other news sources and summarized them, but it's mostly a matter of there only being 24&nbsp;hours in a day and my attention going elsewhere. :/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC) == coding == Do you program in JavaScript? Could you write a script that helps with article archival? Something like [[User:Gryllida/js/TagAbandoned.js|this]] that also protects the page. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:39, 3 March 2025 (UTC) :Not really. All I have ever done in scripting is reverse engineering and tweaking things. I have barely written a script from start to finish, so I'm pretty ignorant about that. Maybe a 3/10 in JavaScript? 2/10? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:23, 4 March 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] would you agree if i nominated you for adminship? i can help with the coding parts but i find article deletions and protected requests pretty boring beyond belief. i am happy to help you (do you use sip, matrix, discord or telegram?() [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:13, 26 August 2025 (UTC) :::I'd be honored to serve however I can. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:22, 26 August 2025 (UTC) :::{{Ping|Gryllida}} Are you motivated to do this still? If so, I'll happily do some work here. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:52, 3 September 2025 (UTC) ::::yup thanks a min [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:42, 3 September 2025 (UTC) :::::[[Wikinews:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Koavf|Nomination added]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:50, 3 September 2025 (UTC) == Welcome to adminship at English Wikinews == Hi Koavf Welcome to being a sysop at the site. * Please subscribe to [[WN:AAA]], this is where majority of requests are added, including requests from non-sysops for sysop action, and requests from sysops to get help from other sysops on any admin action. * Recommended to check recent changes at least once a day, if not more frequently. * Recommended to 'subscribe' to all Water coolers (there is 5 or 6 of them). * If you're on IRC, I can provide you access to the admins/sysops channel; message user 'gry' on IRC for this request. * This is a point to any user at Wikinews. Burnout has been a frequent issue. If you're getting overwhelmed, take a break for a few weeks, with a note on user page when you are planning to come back. I personally encourage myself to do this at least twice a year, although this may be different for other users. Thank you for volunteering. Please let me know if you have got any questions. Many thanks. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 08:21, 23 November 2025 (UTC) :Thanks. I'm honored. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:46, 23 November 2025 (UTC) == A Barnstar for you! == [[File:Wikivandelmedal.PNG|framed|left|The Medal of Persistence]] Thank you for promptly and effectively addressing disruptions upon taking office. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :How kind. Thanks on Thanksgiving. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 10:36, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Happy Thanksgiving! ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 10:42, 27 November 2025 (UTC) == Published: [[Grateful Dead bassist Bob Weir dies, aged 78]] (January 16) == i spelled out group name assuming meant to be 'the Grateful Dead' where says 'the Dead': please correct this now if this is not correct. thanks. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 17:58, 15 January 2026 (UTC) :Thanks kindly and you are correct. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:31, 15 January 2026 (UTC) ::Ok. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:32, 16 January 2026 (UTC) == NEWS STREAK idea proposal == Hi Koavf [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition|NEWS STREAK idea proposal]] would you like to sign up? It hasn't started yet, but I am collecting interest, and you can '''add your nick to the page'''. If you're not doing content edits frequently you could choose another streak period for your news content participation - for example, once each two months rather than once each two weeks... ---- It is being proposed to setup [[:w:streak]] goals over a 12 week period: for example, * "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" This could be either authoring a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused editing on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' to address concerns from another user or reviewer. The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? Parameters are subject to discussion e.g. * 'once every two weeks' or 'once a week' or 'once a month' * should this be same for all or each person decides for themselves * how long total comp running for, 12 weeks or 24 weeks or some other time * some other ideas how to modify this i would appreciate if you could reply '''by end of this week''', it would be helpful please note if you are interested you may signup in [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition]] at page bottom and you will be notified at your talk page if there are any updates or progress of this idea thanks a lot ---- Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:25, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :thank you for signing up, Koavf. i added one more column, the '''frequency''' -- for example, 'two weeks'. this is the streak frequency parameter you would prefer. for example, 'two weeks' means you would suggest that you work towards publishing one story per each two weeks. if you miss third and fourth week and work towards publishing on week five, then the streak is lost. so longer time period (every 4 weeks can be easier than every 2 weeks) can be easier. please add yours, when you have a moment. :-) regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:48, 23 February 2026 (UTC) == CAT deletions == Hi, I saw you deleted a bunch of categories including [[:CAT:September 15, 2018]], that too without a deletion comment -- why is that so? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:13, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I did, in fact, delete a bunch of empty categories, yes. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::I am aware that you did. I am asking as to why -- because we have had those empty date cats since forever.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:05, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::I'm trying to do clean-up of all the maintenance reports before this becomes read-only. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 12:25, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Is there a reason to remove all these CATs which we have always had for tracking purpose? if not, please restore them. [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 16:57, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::::The reason is the one I gave above: they are empty categories. What purpose could they serve? There are also categories for dates post-locking of this wiki. How could anyone possibly be helped by that? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:06, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::::Those empty cats were tracking cats for if there was any news published that day XOR not -- for people to be able to access it. Empty cat shows that there was indeed nothing published rather than having some blunder on-wiki. This breaks pages like [[:Category:March 22, 2026]] by saying "create Category:March 23, 2026". Please do not break the age-long functionality of enwn.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::::::I'm not really sure that an empty category that gets [https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikinews.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2025-04-01&end=2026-04-01&pages=Category:September_1,_2006 one view every four days] while the site is still active is very useful, but I can undelete them. It will take a little time. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:35, 3 April 2026 (UTC) == Thank you == Hi Koavf I am writing to you because I am not reviewing articles for next few weeks due to imminent migration. * I had decided not to review articles after mid-April due to possible required time and effort for migration. Link to the migration discussion "[[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]", and I would like to invite you to participate. For now there is one possible venue with joined Miraheze and Wikimedia NYC hosting but their communication appears to be happening off-wiki as far as I know and I do not know their possible result nor the timing of that discussion. I am grateful for anything that you may do to help. *If the migration is completed I am willing to commit to reviewing more timely and to build an infrastructure and workflow that results in reasonably accurate and fresh stories being published and to help the group grow. * I appreciate you being here, your help with software and discussions has made my editing here more meaningful for me and it would not be the same without you. If there are specific tasks related to migration that you would like my help with, please let me know. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:09, 15 April 2026 (UTC) :Thanks and right back atcha. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 13:27, 15 April 2026 (UTC) == [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]] == Thank you for taking the initiative to get the [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]] article started. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:38, 30 April 2026 (UTC) :I wish I could do/could have done more. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 14:40, 30 April 2026 (UTC) oinr2y79g2fyyt56ohf7qcmr1q8ww3k 6 29992 5023562 4758064 2026-05-01T10:13:39Z Star walker 2869397 now commons 5023562 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{int:filedesc}} == {{Image info |Description = CBS eye logo from Wikipedia. |Source = |Date = |Credit = |Permission = |Other_versions = }} == {{int:license-header}} == {{trademark}}{{PD-ineligible}} [[Category:Files needing attention]] [[Category:Logos]] [[Category:CBS]] {{NowCommons}} gld89dzewo7qx5tj219asshvqbibhol 4 30615 5023180 5022124 2026-04-30T15:01:52Z Revibot I 1627724 Bot: Archiving 2 threads (older than 60 days) to [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/2026/March]] 5023180 wikitext text/x-wiki <span style="font-size: 68%;">''Page last updated:''&nbsp;'''{{CURRENTDAYNAME}}&nbsp;{{CURRENTDAY2}} at&nbsp;{{evalx|(apply + (split (get-arg 2) ":"))|{{CURRENTTIME}}}}'''&nbsp;[[w:UTC|UTC]].&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size: 90%;" class="plainlinks"> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <span style="font-size: 90%;">'''[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} Refresh]</span> [[File:Gtk-refresh.svg|20px|link={{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}}|Refresh this page]]'''&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /></span> __NEWSECTIONLINK__ [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/Archive|Archive]] <inputbox> bgcolor=transparent type=fulltext prefix=Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals break=yes width=50 searchbuttonlabel=Search current discussions and archives </inputbox> ---- {{User:MiszaBot/config |archive = Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s |algo = old(60d) |counter = 1 |minthreadsleft = 1 }} {{Watercooler archivebox}} __TOC__ <!-- Don't touch anything above this line. --> == Limit the FlaggedRevs extension to the article namespace? == Regarding the FlaggedRevs extension in this project, I would like to propose both of the following: # We limit the namespace to only 0 (article namespace), since other namespaces are not considered to be reader material. # Set <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> to <code>0</code> (<code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes = 0</code>), which should no longer allow FlaggedRevs to detect the stable version of templates in articles, if available. I have done [[:b:en:Wikibooks:Reading room/Proposals#Limit some namespaces on this project's FlaggedRevs extension?|a similar proposal]] months ago on English Wikibooks. Thoughts? [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 06:07, 5 January 2026 (UTC) : I like the idea. I'd like to see what other, more technical folks have to say before officially supporting it. We may also benefit from waiting until en.WB completes their change to see what issues they run into in the process. : We would need to organize a small project team to go through all templates and deal with unsighted changes before the config change, to ensure unsighted changes aren't either lost or auto-sighted, depending on how the process handles unsighted changes. : We also are waiting for the WMF Board to announce their decision on the recommendation to close all Wikinews. There would be no sense in doing the work if they are closing the project.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:23, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::If there is a plan to migrate the wiki to new hosting, then any last minute changes would also be migrated. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:22, 5 January 2026 (UTC) :: Wikibooks has already done this. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:05, 5 January 2026 (UTC) :::Yeah and what was their motivation? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:24, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::::On English Wikibooks, we wanted to limit FlaggedRevs to article content namespaces, and it worked, but not before we also had to implement <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes = 0</code> too. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 19:09, 7 January 2026 (UTC) :::::I did not understand why. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:40, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::In the context of article content namespaces, that would be the mainspace, Cookbook, and Wikijunior. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 18:29, 23 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] In short, because otherwise banners like [[phab:F69801009]] would have been irremovably present on pages transcluding a template that (a) had once been reviewed, & (b) hadn't yet had its most recent version reviewed. This is probably a bug in FlaggedRevs itself ([[phab:T411328]]), but given the extension's [[phab:T185664|current maintenance situation]], I wouldn't personally expect it to necessarily be fixed anytime soon. (In case you're interested, I left a bit of a longer explanation on phab at [[phab:T408110#11370668]] & on en.wikibooks in [[b:en:special:gotocomment/c-A_smart_kitten-20251115215100-Codename_Noreste-20251115190500|this comment]].) Best, [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:04, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::(Oh, I just realised that you might not have been asking about why enwikibooks also set <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> to <code>0</code>. Apologies if so :p) [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:05, 18 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], what is the motivation for these two proposed changes? What would they improve? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:21, 5 January 2026 (UTC) ::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I replied above. I saw the [[Wikinews:Reviewing articles|article review policy]] about the following: {{tq|Please note that only users who have the reviewer permission should review and publish articles.}} Because of that, I think it would make sense to only limit FlaggedRevs to just the article namespace only. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 00:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::The current setup allows anyone to edit a template and it would only become visible on other pages after a reviewer approves the edit. So, the change that is being proposed, would make it harder for non-reviewer users to make minor changes to templates and other non-(Main) pages: instead of just clicking 'edit' they would need to go to talk page and request a change there. On the plus side however, it would relieve reviewers from ''that'' (non-Main) backlog. I am fine either way; I am neutral on this issue. If needed, I can help with the implementation of a change if it was desired. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:01, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::: {{tq|The current setup allows anyone to edit a template}} :::: This is not true. Many are edit-protected to one degree or another. For example, no one but administrators can edit [[Template:Source]] and only an admin+reviewer can sight the change. :::: {{tq|the change that is being proposed, would make it harder for non-reviewer users to make minor changes to templates'}} :::: Disabling Flagged Revs would not make it harder to make changes to templates. It would make changes immediately visible everywhere the template is transcluded. :::: {{tq|instead of just clicking 'edit' they would need to go to talk page and request a change there.'}} :::: What you are describing here is edit protection, not flagged revs. When templates use flagged revs, changes made by ''anyone'' must be sighted or approved by a reviewer. If the template is protected such as template:source to admin-only level, we need someone who is both reviewer ''and'' admin to make and sight the change. :::: {{tq|On the plus side however, it would relieve reviewers from ''that'' (non-Main) backlog.'}} :::: Removing flagged revs would reduce the number of changes that need to be approved, but currently only by 14%. The remaining 195 changes still need to be processed. :::: Removing flagged revs from templates will not only make it easier to maintain our templates, it will also reduce our risk if something should go wrong with the flagged revs.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:44, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::1. OK, make it harder to edit ''some'' templates. (Not all are edit protected.) :::::2. It would make it harder for editing ''some'' templates - those that are not edit protected. :::::3. Not really interested in that scenario; interested in those that are not edit protected. Those that are edit protected, it is correct that they require an admin and a reviewer with current setup, and only a admin with proposed setup. But that was not the point that I was raising. :::::3a. Setting <pre>$wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['review'] = true; //allow administrators to review revisions</pre> could be an option, if needed. A request would need to be made that sysops only work outside of main namespace, and possibly only with cosmetic edits to main namespace. That too would reduce reviewers backlog as they would not need to sight changes where a vandal did something and it was undone back identical to previous revision, or minor formatting and punctuation edits. :::::4. Ok, fine. By 14% is still helpful. :::::2, 4. It is not called "removing / disabling flaggedrevs", it is called "disabling flaggedrevs on namespaces that are not main". Removing it implies removing the extension from the wiki altogether, and is not a part of this proposal. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:38, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::: {{tq|make it harder to edit ''some'' templates}} :::::: Disabling flagged revs in template space won't make it harder to edit ''any'' templates. It will allow for changes to be immediately transcluded, without requiring changes to be sighted (approved). :::::: Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to say here. But since you are neutral on the change, maybe it also doesn't matter that I can't make sense of it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:09, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::as I said earlier, if those templates that are under flaggedrevs control now will become protected, they will become harder for non-(privleged) users to edit. I am assuming that they will be protected. there was no consensus here on making them free for anyone to edit. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:07, 22 February 2026 (UTC) :* {{support}}: I do think it would be a better idea to limit it to the main namespace only. As I understand it, the primary focus of the Reviewers user group is to review and evaluate articles and publish them, along with related changes. This would certainly reduce the additional, less important pending changes burden in other namespaces. But, before implementing this as Michael.C.Wright suggests, all current non mainspace changes should be sighted first. Besides that, I do not currently have any other points against this in mind. :-- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:22, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Pinging [[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]] to my FlaggedRevs proposal here, as they might know a little bit more about this extension than we do. I'll probably file a task for this today, given that some are in favor of this change. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 15:18, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::2 yes and 1 neutral. I would suggest wait a bit more before filing task. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:57, 17 February 2026 (UTC) :::To be clear, I wouldn't say I'm an expert on FlaggedRevs by any means :p - I just know a bit that I looked into while working on [[phab:T408110]] :) :::I left a note re <code>$wgFlaggedRevsHandleIncludes</code> [[#c-A_smart_kitten-20260218130400-Gryllida-20260111164000|above]], but feel free to ping me if there are any other questions about the proposal from a technical perspective. Best, [[user:a smart kitten|a smart kitten]] ([[user talk:a smart kitten|talk]]) 13:09, 18 February 2026 (UTC) : {{Support}} Since I didn't make that explicit...apologies. : I should have time later today to work through the pending changes to templates if someone doesn't get to them sooner.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:01, 17 February 2026 (UTC) : <strike>Aside from the one above waiting on [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]],</strike> we have all pending changes to templates done. I can keep an eye on them and sight them as a priority until we get the flagged revs disabled for template namespace.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:59, 17 February 2026 (UTC) : The Phabricator ticket for the request has been closed as 'resolved.'[https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418066] : I checked [[Template:Source]] and [[Template:Date]] to test, and verified that I no longer have the option to ''Submit changes'' as opposed to ''Save changes'' and there is no option to "Mark this version as reviewed" as expected if FlaggedRevs were disabled for templates. : I think we should leave this discussion open for a week or two longer, just in case we run across any issues. Thank you @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]], @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], and @[[User:A smart kitten|A smart kitten]]![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:23, 25 March 2026 (UTC) === Protecting templates === : I am working through the pending changes to templates now. I think it would be wise to protect all templates to 'auto-confirm' accounts as a minimum, not changing any existing protection levels. A lot of the pending changes so far include reverted vandalism (this is good, it is being found and reverted quickly). Many of the vandals are IP/temp accounts, which presumably haven't yet been auto-confirmed. : That could be a lot of tedious work to do up front, but may pay off in the long run. : Any thoughts/objections?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:35, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::Do you have a few examples? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 18:48, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::: Feel free to look through the edit history/recent changes. I was typically descriptive using 'vandalism undone.'[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:49, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::: I just hit this one, so here's an example: [[Template:TScope/ex/doc]]. ::: Feel free to take action on it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:51, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi ::::Ah yes. Those were not edit protected, and anyone could edit them. For when nobody looking, that backlog is pretty tame... ::::#I personally would think that edit protect them makes sense only if the proposed change was to go ahead - ::::# but then, I would suggest to make them "reviewer or admin only" as is more similar to like the current setup, where the intent is for the edit to be checked by a privileged user. Relying on recent change patrolling may not work well on a small wiki that is news focused. ::::# In any case of protection I would suggest to work on making it easier to request an edit. Clicking "talk" and leaving a message is pretty hard For a newbie. ::::# Could the software show a banner at top of all edit protected pages with a big fat "request edit" button that takes to new section at talk with relevant "edit protected request" or whatever template already filled in with a space to describe proposed edit and reason. This banner should only show for users who do not have the privilege to edit the page. ::::# If needed i can write a js that protects page, places a banner at page top, and sights the edit. ::::- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:10, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''I would suggest to make them "reviewer or admin only" as is more similar to like the current setup, where the intent is for the edit to be checked by a privileged user.'' ::::: We can't set "reviewer" as a level of protection. It's not available in the protection menu (I'm not sure if we can somehow enable it). ::::: Also, protecting to admin-only would put too much burden on a group that is already underserved and over-taxed. It is further frustrated by the fact that one of our two interface admins ([[User:Asked42|Asked42]]) is neither a reviewer nor an admin and therefore they would not be able make ''any'' changes to templates if we protected them all to reviewer (if we are able) or admin. ::::: A good portion of the changes I sighted were indeed made by Asked42. ::::: I think auto-confirmed as the minimum baseline, with some fully protected (as they already are) is a good compromise/happy medium.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:23, 17 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::yes we can add a [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRestrictionLevels $wgRestrictionLevels], i guess 'sysop or reviewer or interface admin' could work [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:06, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::This would require initiating a separate proposal to add <code>editautoreviewprotected</code> as a protection level and user right (autoreviewed users, reviewers, and administrators). Protection for interface administrators is currently not possible, as regular administrators cannot edit site CSS/JS pages, or CSS and JS pages in any user's userspace (except for their own). [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 21:10, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Based on this, I think we should protect all templates to a minimum 'auto-confirmed' level, then increase it on an as-needed basis, with the understanding that over-protection impedes regular maintenance. <br>Protecting all templates to reviewer + admin is in my opinion overkill and prevents our single, active, interface admin from being able to make any changes to any templates. <br>Very few of our templates are used on published articles, which is arguably our most sensitive namespace as far as vandalism is concerned. <br>This also requires no changes be made to the overall config. <br>So to be clear, I would support the following (<del>assuming</del> <ins>I assume</ins> we also do it in the following order): :::::::: ::::::::* Protecting all templates to a minimum of auto-confirmed users ::::::::* Remove/disable flagged revs in the Template namespace :::::::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:01, 21 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::that risks all sysops (who may be awol at times) missing an edit an autoconfirmed user made, whereas protecting would prevent this. i think on a small wiki it is better to reduce risk of an edit being made inadvertedly and then being missed. this is not wikipedia where good faith is assumed and infinite resources are available for post-edit page patrol. that would be a low activity backlog anyway seeing that you handled all pending revisions within less than a day - and they were accumulated over course of a few years i believed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:09, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::Whatever user right, it should be granted based on consensus or a sysop decision, not "this user was on wiki for 3 days therefore not spammer" (whatever that was named), in my view. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:22, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::: I {{oppose}} applying reviewer and/or admin-only protection to all templates. It will make general maintenance too difficult. <br>I {{support}} applying auto-confirm protection to all templates that are not currently protected, or:<br>I {{support}} not changing template protection broadly at this time. I don't think this decision should impede the original proposal since it was added later.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:11, 22 February 2026 (UTC) ::I initiated [[phab:T418066]]. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:58, 21 February 2026 (UTC) : Note that we recently had an issue with our Main page not transcluding updates to the lead article templates and the cause is suspected to be the disabling of FlaggedRevs in the template namespace. : See [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#Main page leads not updating properly]] for details. See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T423512 for more details. : If you see similar issues with templates not displaying, please notify everyone at [[Wikinews:Water cooler/technical#Main page leads not updating properly]]. : Thanks![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:30, 15 April 2026 (UTC) ==== Options how to protect ==== For templates which are current in control by flagged revs, a reviewer has to sight an edit for it to be approved and become included in other pages. With the flagged revs being disabled for them. There is a need to make a decision what to do to prevent vandalism and other unwanted edits. * Option 1: do nothing; the templates become available for anyone to edit. Another user can undo that. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; any user can monitor and undo. * Option 2: protect on 'auto-confirmed' level. Accounts with the 'autoconfirmed' privilege can edit. Another 'autoconfirmed' user can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; an 'autoconfirmed' user or users need to check recent changes and monitor. This inconveniences users who are not 'autoconfirmed' because they havve to open a new section at talk page to request an edit. Work load on 'auto-confirmed' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 3: protect on 'some new privilege name here' level. The privilege is given out to any user who was doing something constructive and is provided by request without needing to do a full vote. A vote may be held to remove it if needed or an admin can remove that privilege if it was misused. Another 'some new privilege name here' user can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong; an 'some new privilege name here' user or users need to check recent changes and monitor. This inconveniences users who are not a'some new privilege name here' because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'some new privilege name here' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 4: protect on 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' level. Accounts with 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' privilege can edit, and another user with that privilege can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong, however, the pool of users was hand selected and voted on and the risk was reduced. This inconveniences users who are not a 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'reviewer or sysop or interface admin' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. * Option 5: protect on 'sysop' level. Accounts with sysop (Administrator) privilege can edit, and another user with that privilege can undo if needed. There is a risk that an edit is done wrong, however, the pool of users was hand selected and voted on and the risk was reduced. This inconveniences users who are not a Administrator because now they have to manually request new edits at the talk page. Work load on 'Administrator' is increased because they have to monitor such requests and recent changes. Let me know if I missed something. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 03:01, 22 February 2026 (UTC) Comments and discussion * I have stronger support for 5 than 4 than 3 than 2. The amount of such changes made in template namespace was tiny and I propose to reduce load on 'contributors, users, reviewers, and interface admins', as they best work on news. Solving vandalism or 'hey lets change this because thats how i did it somewhere else and i thought that is good here' or 'i am confused' issues is a sysop job (ignoring that sysops have huge backlog because I am here and I don't even know that these tasks exist, but still. sysop handle mitigations of abuse and approvals of legit edits, in my view. I do not want to bring up question of sysop backlog size or lack of prior involvement in such issues before as it is not directly relevant to my argument). [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:50, 22 February 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to ban usage of AI at Wikinews == From [[Wikinews:Deletion_requests#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260107193100-Israeli_naval_ships_intercept_Gaza-bound_Global_Sumud_Flotilla]] there is a note from @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] "I would even go so far as to propose that we block all AI articles on this wiki.". I agree with this proposal in short term. In long term I think it would be good to allow it after some reliable workflow is developed. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] may be interested in this discussion. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:51, 7 January 2026 (UTC) === Votes === * {{support}} noting this is for short term only and further effort could be undertaken to see what went wrong and how it could be addressed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:51, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *:I'm unsure about this right now [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *::{{oppose}} greatly, [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:21, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *::Hi @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *:::im just so used to using AI I personally enjoy it and I think it helps in some ways to news stories. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *:Yes, short term. When AI gets better or we have more manpower etc., we of course gonna use it. But not for now [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 04:45, 9 January 2026 (UTC) *::Hi @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:26, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * {{support}} a ban on AI generated news pieces. I'm not seeing how it provides value since anyone can ask AI to summarize a news article. Plus, the AI model appears to hallucinate and includes false information or bad sources, so it seems like it creates unnecessary work. [[User:Ternera|Ternera]] ([[User talk:Ternera|talk]]) 21:55, 7 January 2026 (UTC) *: I used AI to help with the following published articles, for just a few examples: :: ::* [[U.S. strikes Iranian nuclear sites Fordow, Natanz, Isfahan overnight]] ::* [[NASA revises asteroid 2024 YR4 threat, near-zero chance of Earth impact]] ::* [[United States sends second aircraft carrier to Middle East, extends ''Truman'' deployment]] ::* [[Oregon court rules voter-approved gun law constitutional]] ::* [[US Navy Secretary nominee Phelan outlines readiness, cost-cutting reforms in Senate hearing]] :: :: I believe they all benefitted from it. I'm not saying they're perfect, but I think they benefitted from AI assistance. :: I also use it to check neutrality and balance during reviews and I find it's very helpful in that regard.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:59, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Ternera|Ternera]] what would you think of requirement 'ai involved articles are in beta phrase, and are only allowed to be written for events which happened on first day of the month'? or some other random blanket rule that leads to effort managing ai generated content as a beta stage only and not every day. then maybe some understanding could be reached how to use ai more efficiently. please let me know, thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:27, 11 January 2026 (UTC) * {{oppose}} Each instance of AI hallucinations slipping through was either 1. A violation of [[WN:AI]] or 2. Should have been caught by the review process, or both. Maybe if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner. <br>I think AI should be treated no different than a human editor. That means any hallucinations, which are simply inaccuracies or unsupported statements by another name, are catchable in the review process (but should be caught in the development process). I would imagine if we ban it, we will simply drive its use "underground." <br>And to be clear; I'm not advocating for AI-generated articles, but AI-assisted articles. <br>I'd prefer that we enforce the full and complete review process. Pseudo-reviews that skip the verification process predictably lead to more corrections and retractions.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:38, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::I think we have yet to update [[Wikinews:The use of AI in generating content]] then approve it either as a policy or a guideline. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 22:41, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::: I agree. The proposed guideline variously states that humans are responsible for the state of the article. ::: :::* "these drafts must always be critically reviewed and fact-checked by human contributors before submission." :::* "the final decisions on wording and style remain human-led." :::* "any interpretation or conclusions drawn must be reviewed by human contributors." :::* "The editorial process, including pre-reviews and final reviews, must always be carried out by human contributors." ::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:52, 7 January 2026 (UTC) ::::AI makes stuff up and this is quite dangerous. I asked it about a snow hazard in Switzerland and provided list of 3 sources; it told me the date 13 months off. If AI assistance is to be kept, I would suggest requiring that the author(s) provide a list of prompts to their AI tool on the talk page. This could help to improve quality of reports. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 02:09, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''AI makes stuff up and this is quite dangerous.'' ::::: However, those facts must be present in the listed sources to be included in our article. Bogus facts provided by AI won't be in the listed sources. <br>A full and complete review will catch that. That's how they were caught in both recent cases where a retraction was proposed. Someone read the article and tried to verify every statement against the sources.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 03:06, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::I was told Grok AI gave information on underage kids pornography so strong delete@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:55, 8 January 2026 (UTC) :::::::https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/05/elon-musk-grok-ai-digitally-undress-images-of-women-children [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:58, 8 January 2026 (UTC) ::"Maybe if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner." Should the authors be penalised in any way, if they repeatedly fail to catch AI's hallucinations? I'd like to know your opinion on this, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:20, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: Authors are responsible for accuracy. But reviewers bear final accountability for published content because review is a permission granted by the community to publish on its behalf. In these cases, the failure was not the existence of errors, but their approval through incomplete review.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:56, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ::::1. I ask to approach both reviewer and author in these cases as they both need to change their approach to ensure issues don't happen again and again. I asked you and you said 'Yeah, except reviewers were elected.' Yeah, sure, but my point still stands. I'm speaking of both. ::::2. Doesn't answer my question how to handle users who repeatedly insert same kind of issues into articles. That is not even always visible as the review feedback of failed articles gets deleted along with their talk page. I try to at least post a copy of it onto talk page via 'custom message' feature of ezpr2. Make that an official policy, would you? I'm sure you would be interested in this as it would allow to keep track of issues in articles submitted by that user in one spot, and provide a path towards figuring out why they happen and how to solve them, and improve 'article quality'. ::::3. And the same could go to posting feedback to a reviewer's talk page about post-publish retractions etc. I believe I didn't even ''get'' a talk page message about that retraction request; yet I did get an insinuation here. The note that a particular reviewer is being dodgy sits in your mind and doesn't sit on their talk page. I think that's inefficient. The concern about your mentioning of de-flagging lies in unnecessary escalation; the general civil thing to do has been to leave a message at a talk page before taking further action. ::::Hope it helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:14, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] see [[:w:Hallucination (artificial intelligence)]] for your reference in case you didn't know, regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:28, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: Since hallucinations are inaccuracies, they won't be in the linked sources. So a full and proper [[WN:REV]] would catch them. Just as they were caught in the previously mentioned articles ''once a full and proper review was performed.'' ::: <blockquote>The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced,</blockquote> ::: Seems like we already have the solution; perform full and proper reviews.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:21, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Seems like incomplete solution since users don't fix anything fast. I have seen it tried for 15 years. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:50, 11 January 2026 (UTC) *<s>{{Support}}</s>I don't think we are on the right side of history. But current experience shows that editers and reviewers can not determine if theres any content in an AI generated article. And we "cannot edit after it published", so no remedies can be made. I also believe we should issue an announcement after disabling AI, which would show that we are a responsible media outlet. Of course, I maintain the stance discussed earlier that, ideally, editors should consciously strive to discern, and reviewers should ensure everything meets the standards, such as accuracy. If the review process can achieve this, it doesn't matter whether the article is written by a human, Shakespeare's monkey, or AI, nor is explicit labeling necessary, because we ultimately get a good article. I'm not saying people can't achieve this, but it requires too much effort, which is clearly not cost-effective. And if we implement policies similar to this now instead of banning AI, it will lead to situations where submissions written with AI cannot be published due to insufficient and timely review, which is obviously not in our favor. I apologize for the mistakes in an article I participated in editing. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 04:03, 9 January 2026 (UTC) : > ''editers and reviewers can not determine if theres any content in an AI generated article.''<br>If that were true, how was it identified for the proposed retraction?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:32, 9 January 2026 (UTC) ::I'm just coming to this now and have no idea what this question is asking. Is there some background somewhere about a proposed retraction that isn't immediately clear in this thread? What is that phrase referring to? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 04:13, 10 January 2026 (UTC) :::Yes, the proposed deletion linked in the first sentence of this section. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:19, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:Tduk|Tduk]] fyi :::* for last few months now, partly due to my medical issues and partly due to my preference, i have been publishing articles checking only the basics (5Ws and H) and not checking each sentence thoroughly. i read through sources and ensure that what i have read does not have serious npov issues or contradictions that immediately strike my mind, but don't check fully. :::* i believe @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] has made it clear that he is here to uphold the standards to highest thresholds and now this is taking the form of him doing a full review of an article at time of archival. i disagree with this approach as i think it is taking away his valuable time from reviewing stories which are actually fresh. i do not believe anyone ever did a full review of an article at time of archival. this process previously only involved checking for red links, issues anyone previously flagged at a talk page, etc. :::* this in some cases results in him finding a full bucket of issues that he does not wish to write a 'correction' for because it would require a complete article rewrite. as i am one of the active (and lazy) reviewers here i should normally reply to these requests but i lack the energy to do this as my current state for last few months results in my energy levels being extremely low, at around 40% of what an average person has got. cause is unknown. :::* yet i keep reviewing articles and keep ignoring these requests to retract articles because it is even harder to reply to those than to one full review in the first place (need to articulate why some of the points being nitpicked were utter bullshit, as i find that i do disagree with some of them). :::* this leads to me becoming more exhausted and circles back to me not participating properly :::* there is an ondoing discussion of it in [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Proposed change to review process by Gryllida Version 202512|this section (on the very same 'proposals' subpage of water cooler)]] :::hope this helps you to get an idea of the situation at least qualitatively. :::regards [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:36, 11 January 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]], i liked that thought, that catching AI hallucinations is time consuming and may lead to delays in publishing. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 13:25, 11 January 2026 (UTC) : {{q|[A]t the time of publication, a news article must be solidly fact-checked and as objective as possible.|30px|30px|[[m:Wikinews|''Wikinews''' mission statement at Meta]]}} : To make sure I understand the position being advanced here, I see the following claims and implications: : :* That, for an extended period[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Talk:Competitive_local_elections_held_in_England#Review_of_revision_4855230_%5BNot_ready%5D], reviews have been intentionally conducted without full verification, despite policy requiring it. :* That multiple proposals have been made to relax or redefine review expectations[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance/archives/2024/November#c-Gryllida-20241020021900-Michael.C.Wright-20241014152800],[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2025/June#'5W_Brief'_format] to align with this reduced, 5W-only level of scrutiny, but without community consensus. :* That, following retractions triggered by full verification after publication, the proposed remedy is to restrict or ban AI use rather than to restore compliance with existing review standards. :* That AI-assisted content is treated as uniquely suspect, while comparable human errors from incomplete review are framed as understandable due to fatigue. :* That thorough verification during review is characterized as counterproductive because it increases post-publication workload, rather than being recognized as work that belongs in the review process. : : I disagree with those priorities. : You previously articulated the risk clearly yourself, noting that becoming more liberal in approvals in order to increase output is “disastrous,”[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#c-Gryllida-2013-08-28T21:28:00.000Z-Wikiwide-2013-08-28T12:57:00.000Z] and that pursuing readership through speed leads to biased, lower-quality journalism. That analysis remains sound and is manifest here in the number of resultant retractions. : Applying full verification after publication did create additional work, but only because required checks were knowingly deferred during review. The remedy is not to restrict tools, but to align review practice with policy. : The underlying issue is not that policy was followed, but that it was repeatedly and unilaterally dismissed.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:42, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::This is too long, but I will answer each point anyway. ::* That, for an extended period[4], reviews have been intentionally conducted without full verification, despite policy requiring it. ::** Yes. I try to do full verification to a degree, but not to each letter. The motivation here is to verify key details and publish while article is still fresh. ::* That multiple proposals have been made to relax or redefine review expectations[5],[6] to align with this reduced, 5W-only level of scrutiny, but without community consensus. ::** That discussion is still open. ::* That, following retractions triggered by full verification after publication, the proposed remedy is to restrict or ban AI use rather than to restore compliance with existing review standards. ::** This is an overloaded sentence for me. For once, it's not only 'review' standards at the plate, it's also the 'write up' standards on the plate. ::* That AI-assisted content is treated as uniquely suspect, while comparable human errors from incomplete review are framed as understandable due to fatigue. ::** I do not know where this came from; please try phrasing it again. I lack resource to attempt to read this more than once. ::* That thorough verification during review is characterized as counterproductive because it increases post-publication workload, rather than being recognized as work that belongs in the review process. ::** I do not know where this came from; please try phrasing it again. I lack resource to attempt to read this more than once. ::* Pursuing readership through speed leads to biased, lower-quality journalism ::** I do not care about readership. I do not know why you think I care of ''that''. ::* "Applying full verification after publication did create additional work, but only because required checks were knowingly deferred during review. The remedy is not to restrict tools, but to align review practice with policy." is missing a 'In my view' note. ::* "The underlying issue is not that policy was followed, but that it was repeatedly and unilaterally dismissed." ::** I do not agree with this statement. I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check. ::Hope this helps. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 15:57, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''I do not think the current policy requires 100% coverage of fact check.'' ::: It is explicit: "The reviewer should check that all information in the article is fully sourced..." ::: It's been a part of the policy since its inception, [[Special:Diff/672352|eighteen years ago]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:04, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::::Thanks for that. Posted below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 16:35, 11 January 2026 (UTC) ::{{Comment}} My understanding is that, for a fair amount of time: ::* There has been a lack of humans, writing articles, editing articles and reviewing them, making it difficult to publish even one article a week; ::* That for a fair amount of articles "written" with usage of AI, the quality problems were significant - not only in style of writing, but even in "facts" mentioned in the article; ::* That we currently have a tool to discourage blatant plagiarism from sources - which therefore encourages "lazy" (or tired, or whatever) contributors to use AI as text generator; ::* AI assisted content is not treated as uniquely suspect. Rather, where text is written by humans, humans are much less likely to generate hallucinations, and much more likely to follow guidelines for writing articles. AI assisted content doesn't know Wikinews guidelines, and even if it were provided with them, it would still be likely to hallucinate; ::The proposals in this thread have included: ::* Temporarily banning AI usage for writing of text in Wikinews articles - which I tend to agree with, though I would prefer a constructive discussion on positive and negative examples of AI generated contributions to Wikinews; ::* Removing reviewer duties from people who have missed AI hallucinations in articles they have published - which I absolutely disagree with. We need more people in Wikinews, not less. ::I would like to add the following proposals: ::* Possibly, add a tool to detect AI hallucinations - numbers (10 or ten or dozens - format doesn't matter), places, people which are not mentioned in the sources; ::* Or even better, write a Wikinews-specific (AI-powered? I don't like AI, but if you do, go ahead, contribute to development and testing) tool to generate text based on the provided links to sources; ::* Remember that having duties of being a reviewer doesn't deprive you of rights of being an editor. If an article needs improvement and editors are not showing up, feel free to improve it yourself - with caveat that you will have to find another reviewer to publish it afterwards. ::Reviewers don't have to be perfect. Reviewers need to be there, active and helping. But they don't have to be perfect. They just have to do their best. And discouraging writers and reviewers, penalizing them for their mistakes, can kill the project. This isn't school where kids have to go, whether they want to or not. This is a project based on volunteers. So instead of wasting their time with these heated opinionated threads and further dividing the community, get out there and do what you can. /AI will not write Wikinews for us./ [[User:Wikiwide|Wikiwide]] ([[User talk:Wikiwide|talk]]) 07:48, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Reviewers don't have to be perfect. Reviewers need to be there, active and helping. But they don't have to be perfect. They just have to do their best.'' :::: We hold contributors accountable under our policies and guidelines, and the same applies to reviewers. '''Publishing inaccurate, biased, or plagiarized content due to incomplete review should not be acceptable.''' Reviewers volunteer for the role with an understanding of its requirements. Unilaterally choosing to disregard core policy for convenience undermines that responsibility, creates more work for others, and damages the project's reputation. ::: ::: :::: If reviewers knowingly accept inaccuracies, bias, or plagiarism for reasons of convenience, it raises a fundamental question about the purpose of the reviewer role itself. The review function exists precisely to prevent those failures, not to normalize them. ::: [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:49, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::: > ''Removing reviewer duties from people who have missed AI hallucinations''<br>That was not proposed. I forwarded a thought experiment by saying "'''Maybe''' [emphasis added] if we de-flagged reviewers after three AI slip-ups in published articles, we'd catch more of them sooner."<br>There used to be the notion of "easy-come, easy-go" for the reviewer bit. There is a very brief discussion [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2010/June#%7B%7BUser Wikinews reviewer%7D%7D|here]] between Pi zero and Brian McNeil, two contributors who were instrumental in developing the modern review process. That discussion illustrates the level of attention to detail they hoped for from reviewers. Our current policies and guidelines still largely reflect that expectation. <br>My point is that this is not the way to go about policy change. What has occurred is one reviewer has unilaterally disregarded policy for personal convenience (as stated), and that has resulted in the publication of inaccuracies, bias, and/or plagiarism. <br>If [[WN:IAR]] is used as a justification (and it has not been, so far), even that requires the action to ''improve'' the project.<br>Reviewing as if a policy change has occurred, when it has not, predictably increases post-publication errors and workload. It then becomes circular to cite those downstream burdens as justification for lowering the standard that would have prevented them.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:42, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I don't think there was disregard from one reviewer, that's why I opened RFC below. I believe that doing 100% verification was not common practice. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:04, 12 January 2026 (UTC) :::::Do we have consensus? @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:58, 12 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::Not before a few other contributors weigh in. This may take a few weeks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:58, 18 January 2026 (UTC) *{{support}} At this time. Let's see what the future holds, though. Maybe let's revisit this next year?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:19, 29 January 2026 (UTC) *'''Support''' a ban on unsupervised use of genAI for article creation or expansion, {{Oppose}} a blanket ban. Part of why I oppose the "nuclear option" is because it's nearly impossible to definitively know whether a certain sentence was purely AI-generated or merely the signature of a more formal human writing. As long as it's used responsibly, genAI can be a very handy tool for writing [[WN:Breaking news|breaking news articles]], seeking feedback on the quality of an almost complete article, correcting the grammar, translating content, and other purposes. For example, when I wrote "[[Bangladeshi interim leader Muhammad Yunus returns home after four-day visit to London]]" and "[https://web.archive.org/web/20250707221334/https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Australia%27s_truth_commission_finds_genocide_against_Aboriginal_Victorians,_suggests_practical_remedies Australia's truth commission finds genocide against Aboriginal Victorians, suggests practical remedies]" (which was [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&user=&page=Australia%27s+truth+commission+finds+genocide+against+Aboriginal+Victorians%2C+suggests+practical+remedies&excludetempacct=1&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist deleted] due to staleness), I asked ChatGPT very simple prompts such as "Please assess that article" and "Is my article good?", and it gave me some rather useful advice (in retrospect, I admit that I should perhaps have disclosed it on the talk pages). Of course, it's a double-edged sword, and I discarded the recommendations which seemed very nitpicky or would run against P&Gs such as [[WN:NPOV|NPOV]]. I think a responsible (if imperfect) approach would be to give a hard "Not Ready" verdict on articles that look entirely AI-generated from the beginning to the end, grant a bit of leeway for those where only a specific section or paragraph is AI-generated, add one or more sections at [[Help:AI]] for guidance on rewriting these sorts of articles, and direct contributors to both that help page and [[WN:The use of AI in generating content]]. [[User:Redireditor|<span style="color:#6C2E92">Redir</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Redireditor|<span style="color:#1245BC">editor</span>]] ('''[[User talk:Redireditor|talk]]''') 01:36, 18 February 2026 (UTC) {{comment}} In light of a recent [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright#c-Gryllida-20260224194500-BigKrow-20260224180300|suggestion to use AI tools to evaluate or fact-check AI-generated material]], and a [[Talk:Moreton Bay illegally evicted homeless campers, Queensland Supreme Court rules#AI usage declaration|recent declaration of AI use in generating a published article]], it would be helpful to clarify the scope of this proposal. If the use of AI in some capacity is considered acceptable by the original poster, then the concern being addressed here may be narrower than originally framed. If that is the case, should the proposal be revised or withdrawn so the discussion reflects that distinction more clearly? [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:36, 10 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree that clarification is needed. AI can be used for many things while writing an article without actually creating the wikinews-authored article text itself. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:28, 4 April 2026 (UTC) === Consensus assessment and possible next steps === My read of the consensus to this point is: * Support: 3 * Oppose: 2 * Support Retracted: 1 * No stated position: 3 Support remains conditional and temporary in framing, not a blanket permanent ban. With only one-vote separation and multiple participants explicitly calling for further discussion, this still does not meet a strong consensus threshold. The thread shows more agreement on process deficiencies (review standards, workload) than on prohibition itself. Based on that, and keeping in mind that consensus is not determined by simple vote totals but by working toward a solution that reasonably addresses the main concerns raised on all sides, I suggest the following be considered for further community discussion: * Transition [[WN:AI]] from a draft guideline into a proposed policy, so its requirements and enforcement expectations are clearer. * We carefully monitor AI usage to ensure it is 1. transparent, 2. accurate, 3. NPOV. See [[:Category:AI usage declared]] as just one tool towards this end. * For a limited trial period (for example, three months), apply a standardized disclosure notice on newly published articles that involve AI assistance. (<del>someone else</del> <ins>[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]</ins> proposed this elsewhere[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals/archives/2025/November#Thinking_-_asking_-_wondering]). See [[:Template:AI disclosure]] as a proposed draft. * Reassess outcomes after the trial period to determine whether current practices are improving article quality and review reliability. Comments welcome on whether this approach reasonably addresses the concerns raised so far.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:05, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :Agreed. Works for me. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 03:26, 10 March 2026 (UTC) : I have tweaked [[WN:AI]] to reflect that it is a proposed policy rather than a proposed guideline. : If we are considering a reader-facing disclaimer placed directly on articles, as I understand [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals/archives/2025/November#c-Bddpaux-20251104213100-Thinking_-asking-_wondering|this suggestion]], I think it should first have clear and explicit consensus. : Please comment below indicating {{tl|support}} or {{tl|oppose}} for '''using [[Template:AI disclosure]] directly on articles for a three-month trial period'''. You may also provide specific suggestions regarding the reader-facing template. If opposing, please include a brief rationale.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:58, 26 March 2026 (UTC) ::I did not understand what change is proposed. I am already following that linked guideline and the software is already prompting to declare AI usage at submission. What would "support" change here? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:07, 27 March 2026 (UTC) : An interesting read at Slashdot, that may be informative to this discussion: [https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/04/05/2119210/will-ai-assisted-journalists-bring-errors-and-retractions Will 'AI-Assisted' Journalists Bring Errors and Retractions?]. Original article is [https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/artificial-intelligence/an-ai-upheaval-is-coming-for-media-this-journalist-is-already-all-in/ar-AA1ZuM7j here].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 11:00, 6 April 2026 (UTC) ::[[:m:Requests for comment/Artificial intelligence policy]] [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:42, 26 April 2026 (UTC) ::: That just got posted elsewhere as well. Interesting developments indeed. Our proposed policy largely mirrored the proposed global policy. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:29, 26 April 2026 (UTC) == Should we reconsider our stance on wikilinking == Our [[Wikinews:Style_guide#Wikilinking_an_article|Style guide states]] "Do not over-wikify articles. Link only particularly relevant background material." I believe the reasoning can be found in [[Wikinews:Categories#Wikilinks_and_redirects|this essay]], which states "Don't use wikilinks for basic information: a news article should stand on its own, understandable without consulting some other page along the way." As a community, I believe we have strayed from this practice considerably. A drift towards more wikilinking, in my opinion, is part of our broader drift from being a journalism project first to a wiki project first and a journalism project second. While over-wikilinking has not been an impediment to publication (that I'm aware of), it is something we should either be actively addressing (reducing) or something we should remove from our policies and guidelines. Please comment below how you feel about over-wikilinking and if you feel we should keep, remove, or update the recommendation. Justifying your response would be most helpful, but a simple !vote might suffice. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:27, 27 February 2026 (UTC) Some useful polling templates might be: *{{remove}} {{tl|remove}} *{{keep}} {{tl|keep}} *{{weak delete}} {{tl|weak delete}} *{{weak keep}} {{tl|weak keep}} === Comments === * {{keep}} especially for the lede. A link away from ''Wikinews'' is an invitation to stop reading our content and start reading someone else's. I also agree that the quality of our articles should be high enough that readers can fully understand the topic without going elsewhere for additional information. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:27, 27 February 2026 (UTC) *{{weak keep}} I am unsure if I have a passionate opinion here, but I will agree that the wikilinking has gotten a bit out of control. In the very least: most of our wikilinking should simply point to a new place at WN. This isn't Wikipedia. And: I '''2000% agree''' that we've lost our 'scope' of journalism first, wiki second. That is not even mentioning the 3,000 people involved with WMF that can only view us as a wiki ONLY. That has been a never ending war. Even some of us here: Admins etc. etc. -- we (including myself) sometimes get lost in the weeds on what is happening at this place: get the news, write the news, submit the news.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:32, 27 February 2026 (UTC) *:Just commenting what I see in this... *:* Obvious words like "cat" or "dog" are not supposed to be wikilinked. Not to point of wikilinking every second word in a page. *:* More complex names (for me it includes name of ''any'' US state, for instance, i never knew where they are and am not going to try to build a US map in my head, and many readers are overseas) that are not understood by foreigner or by someone new to that topic, could and should be wikilinked. *:* Adding a brief note to a thing is good. At some point I added a note like ", a state in east coast of United States," for something, for that reason. *:* Sport articles, for example, suffer a lot from lack of explanations. :S *:* Also this approach gave advantage that items that ''are'' wikilinked do, eventually in an utopic world when news writing is an everyday thing, become wikilinks to local categories about that event series or place or topic in ''news'' context, with a feed for that. For example there is no category "Dog". Or [[court]]. Or something. *:* If I removed a wikilink, I should probably feel compelled to either add a brief note or add a local news-feed (category) link. *:* A reviewer can do such minor chanhe if needed. *:* And I personally do not see any reason to change that policy in its current version. *:[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:00, 28 February 2026 (UTC) *{{weak delete}} Admittedly, having too many wikilinks looks bad. But we should not discourage Wikinews writers from including ''useful'' links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is our sister project, not a competitor. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 05:31, 28 February 2026 (UTC) *'''comment''' - There are two quotes that were mentioned, the style guide, which says "''"Do not over-wikify articles. Link only particularly relevant background material."''", and an under construction essay called "'''Categories'''", abandoned in 2021, which for reasons I can't quite figure out mentions wikilinks. When being asked "''Please comment below how you feel about over-wikilinking and if you feel we should keep, remove, or update the recommendation.''", it's not entirely clear what "the recommendation" is. Maybe I seem like I'm being obtuse but I'm having trouble interpreting all the !votes and figuring out where I stand on an issue presented as a simply yes/no question but that lacks the needed clarity. If just a comment is being sought, I can provide that of course. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:47, 10 March 2026 (UTC) == Suggestion for [[Wikinews:Writing an article]] == At [[Wikinews:Writing an article#Starting out]], it says: :If the story has not been started, you can begin it by entering an appropriate title below and clicking "Create article". :Here are ''Wikinews'' [[Wikinews:Style guide#Headlines|article title rules and guidelines]]. I suggest that we add something like this to the above: "The article title should '''identify the news event''' that the article is about. A person's name alone, or a company name alone, should not be an article title." I am assuming that some people are indeed creating articles by starting from [[Wikinews:Writing an article]] but not reading the linked article title rules and guidelines (this assumption might be incorrect). That seems to be how we get such soon-to-be-deleted drafts as [[Rumi Von-Clarke]], [[Daud Muhammed]], and [[Zakariah gmb services]], all of which were tagged for speedy deletion on their second edits. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:13, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :I support this. That seems like a reasonable assumption. This might pull in a few contributors who get discouraged at first. I don't really follow them; what is the typical path a new editor who creates one of those articles takes? Do they stop editing? Silently? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:39, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::I'm cool with that. I just hope new reporters read it. The '''event''' is the thing.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:52, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :Works for me. This could be a draft title, and when the user is ready to submit it for review, they can choose a better, more representative title if it is not already set. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == The future == I'll try to be quick here: We are a small village. There is a kind of poison that works its way in here at times -- people can (and do) begin treating this place as a general wiki, after they've been here for about 6 months. <br>I am writing these words as encouragement, not to scold -- please note that. I am going to (for the remainder of 2026) focus very much on Reviewing and encouraging new reporters. This is a news site. We have policies and guidelines. I will try very hard to adhere to those -- and I ask all other people here to focus on that very thing. Good things ahead. [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:19, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == New tool for inline comments: DynamicMarking. == Hello, a new tool is now available that enables reviewers to attach inline comments to specific phrases in a draft article. This means phrases can be marked by a reviewer to highlight issues without actually editing the article. Phrases that have been marked will appear highlighted in yellow. Non-reviewers can view them, but they will not be able to edit or remove the attached comments or markings. However, users can mark a specific highlight as "resolved". This gadget allows users to quickly identify the exact text in an article that needs modification or changes. Reviewers using the EzPR2025 gadget for review will find the "Dynamic Marking" feature integrated into it. However, the tool can also be used independently of EzPR2025. Full documentation is available at: [[Wikinews:Easy Peer Review (2025 version)/DynamicMarking|WN:EzPR2025/Dynamic Marking]]. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 08:07, 14 March 2026 (UTC) == Review que == there are currently nibe articles in review que going stale. I cannot review ''any'' of them because I either wrote them or they're original research. Can someone please get going on a review? This site must publish one article per day to remain a viable destination. Also, I am not going to be able to volunteer any more time writing articles here if everything I wrote this week goes stale for no good reason. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 10:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC) : For me, the deeper issue is a difference in what level of quality we are trying to achieve. Our Policies and Guidelines were written by a generation aiming for a much higher standard than what the current generation, broadly speaking, appears willing or able to sustain. The way we are collectively navigating that gap is creating friction (to put it politely) and, in practice, a status quo of low output. : We need to resolve that tension. Either we reform our PaGs to reflect a more achievable standard, or we raise the quality of our work to meet them. : Given the ongoing friction, I find myself looking for other ways to contribute here, if at all. I know at least one other reviewer has expressed a similar view. : I believe this quality–output tension is a central factor behind the SPTF’s recommendation to close Wikinews. I understand the logic behind that recommendation: we have not yet demonstrated that a citizen journalism model can reliably and consistently sustain high output, high quality, and a meaningful wiki process all at the same time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:04, 20 March 2026 (UTC) ::If there is a problem regarding the quality of my contributions to this project, then nobody has said anything about that to me whatsoever. I submit my articles in the best shape possible and I still feel like I have to make a scene just to get someone to even look at my submissions. This is starting to look like what I assumed was going to happen if I started reviewing -- me being expected to pick up the entire review workload -- because literally nothing will get published orherwise -- while my own submissions are just forgotten and left to rot in the review que, and hours of my personal time are just wasted. I believe this project has potential but I dont know how to proceed if nothing else is being done to fix the problem that multiple users have been bitching about for months'''. This project will be shut down if the status quo continues. ''' [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 23:41, 20 March 2026 (UTC) ::: There was no specific target in my earlier comment. I was speaking more generally about what feels like a broader tension on the project. ::: To clarify: it seems we may not all be applying the same review standard in practice. I’m not referring to you or anyone else ''specifically''. There appears to be some preference, broadly speaking, for getting articles published once they are “good enough,” even if not every statement has been explicitly checked against a source or clearly attributed, with the expectation that the wiki process can refine things later. ::: On the other hand, our existing policies and guidelines lean toward a stricter approach, where each statement is expected to be supported or removed before publication. That gap — between what the standards say and what is realistically being applied — is where I see a lot of the friction coming from. ::: I may be misreading that, but that’s the issue I was trying to point to. ::: On the concern about you being expected to carry the review workload, I’m not sure the recent activity reflects that. Publishing has been shared among a small group of reviewers, and you’ve been a significant part of that (thank you!), but not the sole contributor.[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=review&user=&page=&excludetempacct=1&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:12, 21 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I understand enforcing the rigorous policies for quality control, I just feel there have been too many times where a reviewer has requested revisions after an article I authored has been submitted, the requested changes are promptly made, but the reviewer just goes radio silent immediately afterward and the articles just goes stale waiting for review. It's hard to really feel motivated to make revisions to or gatwick articles I write because they have mostly just been getting left to rot these past few months. I'm not sure the community understands how much human labor power is actually just being wasted due to this failed process. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:58, 21 March 2026 (UTC) :::::i published one, others to follow during the week if i manage [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::::it was noted elsewhere that 'a few' reviewers are required for the site to work. like i woukd say around 2-3 is a bare minimum 💀 when only 1 or 2, then, very hard to get things moving. I will also try to write one during the week for you to review! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:05, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::thanks! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:11, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :hi @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] what is the issue with reviewing OR? Do you have scoop access? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 13:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::I dont know how to verify sources with original research. How am I supposed to review an event or interview I did not attend? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 13:08, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::you can cross check it against reporters notes. They are shared privately with scoop, an address that accredited reporters and reviewers can read. If you do not have a wn-reporters account, please email me with your desired username, and i will email you the login instructions. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 14:32, 22 March 2026 (UTC) ::::If it helps any, I have two stories currently waiting that are OR. [[Musique Libre Femmes plays for Women's History Month at Tompkins Square Library in New York City]] requires scoop access but I tried deliberately to make [[The Performance Space in New York City holds its annual gala honoring three artists]] verifiable using only the pictures I provided in the article and a few of the pre-event sources. This is even easier now, as since I wrote the material (immediately after it happened), some genuine sources have come out which also corroborate my OR (which I added).. So that one shouldn't be too difficult. I also made it deliberately short so we could publish it fast... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 20:35, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :::::Are we able to publish OR ten days after the focal point event? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 20:45, 23 March 2026 (UTC) :::::: Generally, yes.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:31, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::How long do we have? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 01:40, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Unfortunately, this is one of the many areas where there is no hard-and-fast rule. [[WN:Fresh]] merely states: :::::::: <blockquote>Exclusive content has the potential to extend our freshness horizon by days or even weeks, depending on the nature of the original material. </blockquote> :::::::: Somewhere there is a relatively recent discussion that involved MeDaWikipedian I believe, in which some consensus formed around eight weeks as a max limit. I'll find it but it might take some time.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:50, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: Not much of a consensus for 8 weeks, but it may still be useful to cite as recent precedent when defending publication of material up to that age: [[Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2024/September#Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:14, 24 March 2026 (UTC) :::::::: If you'd like some advice on it, let me know what article you are talking about and what you're thinking as far as why it is still publishable. If you'd rather do it quietly, feel free to use wikimail or email.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:17, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to auto-"stale" from review queue == If an article was submitted for review on day N, then on day N+8 could it automatically mark itself as stale? This could help clear out the queue from the old end. I picked number 8 because usually an article does not get published about events over seven days old; I may be deluded there so please adjust the number of days as needed. Alternatively, the "review" template could change to "abandoned" after 7 days. I am suggesting to get this decided and implemented some time soon. It would reduce the load on reviewers and sysops, in my opinion. Something similar was done for another template before, but I do not remember which. -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:59, 24 March 2026 (UTC) == Improving review visibility and collaboration for draft articles == I propose increasing visibility and collaboration around drafts and their talk pages so more users can contribute to review and copyediting. That could help authors who aren’t keeping up with reviewer requests and would be more like a scientific journal process where at least two people check a page before publication. Since the software supports pre-reviews, we could encourage everyone to pre-review more broadly. Proposed actions: 1. Add a friendly site notice inviting users to join a “newsroom” and review at least one article per day. Link to a Newsroom guide explaining categories: Drafts = need pre-review, expand, submit for review Queue = possibly ready; check carefully and flag issues Disputed = issues found; fix and resubmit That page like [[Wikinews:Newsroom]] but a mini-version: with only one paragraph intro linking to key policies; three lists (draft, review, disputed) one paragraph before each; one list (published in last three days) also one para explaining process of improving or cross checking those. That could be more user friendly for newbies than the current "everything and a kitchen sink" current version. 2. On submission, automatically leave the user a message with a request to pre-review at least two pages from the Newsroom, again linking to its over simplified version, perhaps even transcluding it to the user's talk page (via subst, so only then-current version is included in the message) as then they do not need to open the Newsroom link to see the topics being written about in the new drafts. These steps should speed feedback to authors and surface more issues before publishing, and bring more hands to fix them. Hope this is helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:10, 27 March 2026 (UTC) 3. At submission, present user a button "pre-review my own article" which is like pre-review process they do for article they just submitted. 2a. Example: [[User:Gryllida/MiniNewsroom]] --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:31, 27 March 2026 (UTC) :4. Add button "mark as stale" to the develop template. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:32, 27 March 2026 (UTC) == Online workshop for training new reviewers == Hello everyone, to help increase the number of active reviewers on English Wikinews and support interested contributors in understanding the review process, I would like to propose organizing a structured, documentation-based online workshop. Given that live video sessions may not be feasible for many participants, this workshop would primarily be text-based and hosted on-wiki (with optional use of chat platforms for discussion). However, if any experienced reviewer is interested in contributing via a presentation or live session, that would certainly be welcome. The workshop would be divided into 4-5 sections, each focusing on a specific aspect of the reviewing process. These may include: * Introduction to the role and responsibilities of a reviewer * Core review criteria (newsworthiness, neutrality, verifiability, freshness, copyvio) * Source verification and common issues in articles * The review workflow (from submission to publication) * Post-publication review and maintenance Each section would include short explanatory materials (text, slides, or diagrams), followed by practical tasks. These tasks could include answering questions, identifying issues in sample articles, or performing a simulated review. Participants who complete the workshop should gain a clearer understanding of how reviewing works in practice. Rather than replacing the existing reviewer nomination process, the workshop could serve as a preparation pathway, helping participants build the skills and confidence needed before being nominated. Additionally, participants who demonstrate strong understanding during the workshop could be encouraged or mentored further as potential reviewer candidates. To keep the workshop effective, participation may be limited to a small group. We would likely need at least 2-3 experienced reviewers to help guide discussions, review responses, and provide feedback. I would be happy to help prepare materials such as slides, flowcharts, and example articles. I would appreciate the community's thoughts on this idea: Would such a workshop be useful? Would any reviewers be interested in helping organize or mentor participants? Are there improvements or alternative approaches we should consider? Thank you. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:12, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :*'''Support''' I would've started reviewing much sooner of there was something like this in place. Why there doesn't already exist something similar to this is beyond me. :[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:05, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :* I can also assist in creating JS-based interactive quizzes, annotation projects, a peer review comment writing playground, and other interactive tools for the workshop, which I think will make it more engaging and fun. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 17:37, 29 March 2026 (UTC) :*:That seems good but is being hindered by needing to process [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews the hosting change]. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == The last Wikinews article == Since the site will be frozen after May 4, I would like to suggest that we plan to have the top headline on the last day be something along the lines of "Wikinews closes after 21 years; community moves to Miraheze" or something like that. If the top headline is going to be permanently in place after that, it ought to be something that commemorates the ending of Wikinews. I wouldn't want the headline that the site has to live with permanently to be something like "Small town car accident results in nearly $200 in damage, no injuries". Of course, this presumes that we can have an article commemorating the site's closure ready and approved on May 3, but it will also require the cooperation of reviewers not to put something else in the lead headline position at the last minute. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 14:13, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :{{Support}}: I think this could be some type of original report. Even if a full article is not possible, I do think we should leave a message on the main page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :{{support}} I proposed the same elsewhere (after you did). —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :[[Wikinews closes after 21 years]]. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:24, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :{{Support}} But: it will a long time before I come back here. Not being ugly about it. Maybe Michael can publish it. I'm about to sign out.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 02:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :{{Neutral}} Don't care. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 02:24, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Not sure if we 100% are moving to other host, though we should prep the article already, and post by May 3 -- should there be any changes, we do it before the project is RO (read-only). If someone is up for writing it -- I shall be there to review it. PS: please come to IRC, if you all can.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:37, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I think the article would greatly benefit from someone from the previous generation of contributors to write about how the modern review process came about, the various journalism schools/classes we worked with at the time, etc. That time was our peak in regards to readership and activity and is therefore the most consequential for us as a project. ::: I know @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] has links to external sites which praised the work of en.WN during those periods. Those could/should be used as sources, quoted, etc. ::: See: [[Wikinews closes after 21 years]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 06:48, 4 April 2026 (UTC) == Future stewardship of Wikinews == As per [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 this comment] by @[[User:Sj|Sj]], Wikimedia NYC and task force members are discussing the possible stewardship of Wikinews by [[meta:Wikimedia New York City]]. Also ping: @[[User:Pharos|Pharos]] -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:56, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to cease publishing after around April 14 == Hello, as resources are required for migration, I am proposing to set a date after which articles will not be published. Maybe around mid-April. Then, a week later, clear the review queue and finish any maintenance tasks and walk away. Then this would leave around two weeks to setup a new site. Otherwise, I am concerned migration will be under-resourced. cc @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] who quite rightfully in my opinion wrote [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASupreme_Court_of_Finland_convicts_Christians_of_crimes_against_the_humanity_of_gays_and_lesbians_in_a_landmark_ruling&diff=5003903&oldid=5003259 that]. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 08:06, 5 April 2026 (UTC) *If there is time to get new articles published during the second half of April, I think it should be allowed. The migration may be a more important priority, but not all the admins will necessarily be involved with that nor will it necessarily take up all their time. We are still getting submissions, albeit not many good ones. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:23, 7 April 2026 (UTC) * {{oppose}} I agree with [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] above. We could continue developing and publishing articles that reflect what we aimed to achieve: accurate, neutral reporting, provided reviewers are willing to perform full and complete reviews. More psuedo-reviews would be [[Wikinews:Deletion requests#Supreme Court of Finland convicts individuals and institutions involved in writing and publishing pamphlet for inciting hatred against gays and lesbians|counterproductive]]. : That said, it is already April 13 and there have been no substantive updates on migration, use of the name or logo, or related decisions. If the community waits for those before preparing for read-only, there will likely not be enough time (or community will) to complete the work. For that reason, some of us have already started shutting the lights down. See the following discussions: : :* [[Wikinews:Admin action alerts#Administrative matters for the closure]] :* [[Wikinews:Admin action alerts#In anticipation of DPL being disabled]] :* [[#The last Wikinews article]] (discussion above, article located [[Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews closes after 21 years|here]]) : : Currently I am prioritizing admin/maintenance/shut-down work but am also willing to do reviewer work if no other reviewers are willing. I am also prepared to review and publish the [[Wikinews:Story preparation/Wikinews closes after 21 years|last article]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:03, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :'''Oppose''' - I'm not sure what this would change in practice anyway. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 02:50, 14 April 2026 (UTC) ::I stopped reviewing anyway, as I cannot allocate resources for the "shut lights down" activities AND for reviewing AND for migration. For any non-reviewing tasks, I am happy to help. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:15, 15 April 2026 (UTC) == Proposal to unblock bot for final DPL cleanup == I would like to unblock [[User talk:Dexbot]], to be used by @[[User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]] to complete our DPL conversion to static lists prior to [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]]. The bot was blocked almost twelve years ago by Pi for being operated "without authorization in violation of project policy, and operated with an effective bot flag without local control as well as without authorization."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Dexbot#Unauthorized_bot] Ladsgroup has used the bot already on other language projects for this exact use; to remove DPL prior to ''Wikinews'' being closed. See [[phab:T421796#11851688]]. There are [[Wikinews:2026 Wind-down Wikinews|just shy of 3,500 pages remaining with DPL]]. I believe a vast majority are the [[Wikinews:Archives]]. I propose the following pages and their sub-pages and transcluded templates not be touched by the bot (most are protected any way). These should be manually converted at the last minute (target: April 30) for maximum usage before closure: * [[Main page]] * [[Newsroom]] * [[Wikinews:Water cooler]] I do not believe admin rights will be necessary for the bot (and it doesn't look like they were utilized on other language projects), as the archives appear to be protected only to auto-confirmed, if at all. Flood might be needed, and if a local bureaucrat can't assign that and it's needed, I will request that a Steward assign that flag. I will make myself available to change protection on a page-by-page basis, as needed to reduce our DPL usage. This should be a community decision, so all input is welcome. Also pinging all admin: {{ping|Acagastya|Bawolff|Bddpaux|Chaetodipus|Cromium|Gryllida|Koavf|Leaderboard|Leaderbot|LivelyRatification|Michael.C.Wright|Microchip08|RockerballAustralia|SVTCobra|Tom Morris|Tyrol5|William S. Saturn}} '''Are there any objections to me unblocking this bot and allowing it to perform the action of replacing DPL with static lists?''' [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:21, 23 April 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] I don't think there's any reason to keep a 12-year-old block, and on that basis alone I've unblocked the bot. A local bureaucrat should be able to assign flood (or bot). [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:24, 23 April 2026 (UTC) :Great. Thanks. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:27, 23 April 2026 (UTC) *I see no problem with using a bot to replace the DPL lists. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 02:28, 24 April 2026 (UTC) == Welcoming policy and cleanup proposal == So we're busy cleaning up Russian Wikinews, and I noticed that our total number of pages is about to drop below what you guys currently have. This was surprising, so I checked and apparently there are 2978k pages, and 2765k of them are user talk pages created by [[User:Wikinews Welcome]]. And it keeps creating them. I was shocked to learn that English Wikinews sends a welcome message to every user ever. Now I'm not part of the local community, but I do think that it would be in the interest of Wikinews as a whole (even in read-only state) to trim the fat as much as possible. Thus my suggestions are 1) that [[:meta:Welcoming policy]] be adopted and 2) that all pages which don't follow this policy be deleted (that is, if a user didn't create their account here, never made an edit here, and their talk page was never used by anyone else, it's up for deletion). In my estimation, about 100k user talk pages will remain if this is done. I imagine that the technical staff (like @[[User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]]) would be interested in having this go through. [[User:AtUkr|AtUkr]] ([[User talk:AtUkr|talk]]) 18:33, 24 April 2026 (UTC) :{{support}} This is one of the lowest priorities I can imagine, but if someone can do this in an automated fashion, sure. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 18:54, 24 April 2026 (UTC) :{{support}} Absolutely agree. Especially with the better Meta welcoming, I would support this even if the project wasn't closing, and since it is, this could tremendously help archiving. [[User:Johnson524|Johnson524]] ([[User talk:Johnson524|talk]]) 22:54, 25 April 2026 (UTC) :Once this is decided, I think I can do the deletions server-side with a maint script. [[User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]] ([[User talk:Ladsgroup|talk]]) 00:07, 26 April 2026 (UTC) : {{Neutral}} I'm not sure how the project benefits from removing these pages or suffers from having them. If removal can be accomplished without neglecting [[Wikinews:2026 Wind-down Wikinews|other priorities]], then I see no harm. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:50, 26 April 2026 (UTC) ::It will be done after the closure for sure. It will drastically reduce the database footprint of the wiki. 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width= {{{width|{{#if:{{{width|}}}|50%|35%}}}}}} | country= {{{country}}} | IBEX 35 = #N/A | IBEX 35-c = #N/A | IBEX 35-p = #N/A | IBEX 35-tl = {{loss}} | FTSE 100 = 10354.86 | FTSE 100-c = 141.75 | FTSE 100-p = 1.39 | FTSE 100-tl = {{profit}} | DAX = 24120.05 | DAX-c = 165.49 | DAX-p = 0.69 | DAX-tl = {{profit}} | SMI = 13120.15 | SMI-c = 88.25 | SMI-p = 0.68 | SMI-tl = {{profit}} | AEX = 1004.68 | AEX-c = 7.50 | AEX-p = 0.75 | AEX-tl = {{profit}} | BEL20 = 5317.40 | BEL20-c = 37.71 | BEL20-p = 0.71 | BEL20-tl = {{profit}} | OMX Stockholm 30 = 3060.48 | OMX Stockholm 30-c = 4.47 | OMX Stockholm 30-p = 0.15 | OMX Stockholm 30-tl = {{profit}} | Nasdaq = 24673.24 | Nasdaq-c = 9.44 | Nasdaq-p = 0.04 | Nasdaq-tl = {{profit}} | S&P 500 = 7135.95 | S&P 500-c = -2.85 | S&P 500-p = -0.04 | S&P 500-tl = {{loss}} | Bovespa = 184750.42 | Bovespa-c = -3868.27 | Bovespa-p = -2.05 | Bovespa-tl = {{loss}} | All Ordinaries = 8887.60 | All Ordinaries-c = -28.10 | All Ordinaries-p = -0.32 | All 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100-tl = {{profit}} | DAX = 24292.38 | DAX-c = 337.82 | DAX-p = 1.41 | DAX-tl = {{profit}} | SMI = 13136.27 | SMI-c = 104.37 | SMI-p = 0.80 | SMI-tl = {{profit}} | AEX = 1014.09 | AEX-c = 16.91 | AEX-p = 1.70 | AEX-tl = {{profit}} | BEL20 = 5352.67 | BEL20-c = 72.98 | BEL20-p = 1.38 | BEL20-tl = {{profit}} | OMX Stockholm 30 = 3060.48 | OMX Stockholm 30-c = 19.95 | OMX Stockholm 30-p = 0.66 | OMX Stockholm 30-tl = {{profit}} | Nasdaq = 24892.31 | Nasdaq-c = 219.07 | Nasdaq-p = 0.89 | Nasdaq-tl = {{profit}} | S&P 500 = 7209.01 | S&P 500-c = 73.06 | S&P 500-p = 1.02 | S&P 500-tl = {{profit}} | Bovespa = 187317.64 | Bovespa-c = 2567.22 | Bovespa-p = 1.39 | Bovespa-tl = {{profit}} | All Ordinaries = 8887.60 | All Ordinaries-c = -28.10 | All Ordinaries-p = -0.32 | All Ordinaries-tl = {{loss}} | Nikkei = 59284.92 | Nikkei-c = -632.54 | Nikkei-p = -1.06 | Nikkei-tl = {{loss}} | Hang Seng = 25776.53 | Hang Seng-c = -335.31 | Hang Seng-p = -1.28 | Hang Seng-tl = {{loss}} | BSE Sensex = 76913.50 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I truly understand if you don't want to or have the time, but if nothing else, I wanted to sincerely thank you for all the incredible work you've done here over the years. Since you became a reviewer [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Michael.C.Wright|almost two years ago]], your work has been seen and truly appreciated by many including myself. Thank you again. [[User:Johnson524|Johnson524]] ([[User talk:Johnson524|talk]]) 06:30, 20 April 2026 (UTC) == My offshoot wiki for news == https://newswikien.fandom.com/wiki/NewsWikiEN_Wiki @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:51, 21 April 2026 (UTC) : Thanks for the heads-up. Where ever the project migrates or forks to, I think its important to first have a 501(c)(3) parent organization and a plan to address the issues identified by the SPTF.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:08, 22 April 2026 (UTC) == Tell Lofi Gurl to leave my user page alone == @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:29, 27 April 2026 (UTC) :BigKrow is an admitted sock of [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Maoririder~enwikinews Maoririder]! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:33, 27 April 2026 (UTC) ::so what I didn't lie did I? Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 18:40, 27 April 2026 (UTC) :::I fucking went to bat for you and then you go and reveal yourself as some mass sockpuppeteer who posted racial slurs on English Wikipedia, you fucking humiliated me, I could have gone the rest of my (online) life without knowing this about you!! [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 18:44, 27 April 2026 (UTC) :::::Hey dude I'm genuinely sorry for accidentally getting you blocked on Wikipedia. I thought I was helping you get unblocked over there. I think you should request unblock and pledge to not create more sock accounts and to edit constructively. [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 21:11, 27 April 2026 (UTC) : As far as I can tell, the last edit by [[User:Maoririder~enwikinews|Maoririder~enwikinews]], including deleted contributions, occurred almost 21 years ago, while the account BigKrow was created only 2 years ago. There is no overlap between the two accounts’ activity, which rules out voting fraud. : Maoririder was never blocked on en.Wikinews, so block evasion does not apply here. : On that basis, there is no clear evidence of misuse of sockpuppet accounts at ''Wikinews''. : @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], you are ''strongly'' encouraged not to use [[User:Maoririder~enwikinews|Maoririder~enwikinews]] here any longer. Given the [[Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous#Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews|pending closure of the project]], that should not be an issue. : I also ask that both [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] and [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] disengage from the recent exchange. The discussion has become personal and is no longer constructive. Please keep any further comments focused on project-related matters. : For cross-project context only; these links are not relied upon as evidence for the conclusions above. : [[w:Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Maoririder]]<br> [[w:Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Maoririder]]<br> [[w:Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#User:BigKrow]]<br> [[w:User:Maoririder]] [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:08, 27 April 2026 (UTC) == You may be an eligible candidate for the U4C election == <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> Greetings, The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C)]] seeks candidates for the 2026 election. The U4C is the global committee responsible for overseeing enforcement of the [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Universal Code of Conduct|Universal Code of Conduct]]. 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But I require it.)|bg1=#fa8181| {{Template:Welcome|realName=Agastya|name=Acagastya}}<br>-- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 09:51, 22 August 2014 (UTC) }} == LinkedIn == Are we sure I can’t use LinkedIn as a source, just because you can’t access it without an account? I’m severely limited in my Sirr article to what can be gathered from a profile which was last updated a decade ago. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 18:00, 20 July 2021 (UTC) :No, that is not why we can't use it. LinkedIn hides things behind paywall, and that is what is discouraged and well, we need to find other ways to investigate.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 18:03, 20 July 2021 (UTC) ::That ''is true'', however: Once a reporter is accredited, when they document (Talk page or via Scoop or whatever) that they saw/heard/read something, that '''is''' the verification. So, even something that is paywall'd, does NOT automatically disqualify it as a decent source. Now, historically, we want our readers to be able to visit/use/go to that source, sure.....but paywall doesn't NOT automatically make it non-usable. Just for the record. Of course, we require 2 sources.....so, if EVERYTHING in the article is just what the reporter says they saw/heard/read, that doesn't quite cut the mustard. It is a critical distinction.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:15, 21 July 2021 (UTC) :::Could I have another admin's word on this? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 17:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC) ::::It has nothing to do with admins. Please do not confuse between admins and reviewers. But no, whatever they hear is not verification, it is evidence. And that needs to be verified by the reviewer. And if a reviewer cannot verify the notes, records or recordings about an alleged incident, that is not considered okay. I had given the example before and i say it again, if i claim to have seen a message sent by Leo Messi and I write an OR about it; if I cannot back my claims, in pizero's own words, "there is no reason to consider those trustworthy." Our trust in ARs is for their notes, not for the facts they found. After all, they are looking for facts, not Joseph Smith's golden tablets.<br>[[Special:Contributions/117.198.177.144|117.198.177.144]] ([[User talk:117.198.177.144|talk]]) 17:34, 21 July 2021 (UTC) :Not sure who wrote that, but as is often the case, things are merely being re-worded here for the sake of talk. Yes: things must be verified. You bet. Yep. Sure thing. I (as an accredited reporter here) watched live stream/live feeds of things, etc. I wrote down '''word-for-word''' what was happening or being said. My notes were placed on the talk page. Those notes were approved by the late Pi Zero (or whomever) as source material. Why? Because I have been vetted as a trustworthy person. That is how I became an accredited reporter. My notes, taken in real-time, serve to back my claims, because the community here has stamped me as 'approved'. In the spirit, we shouldn't get too wrapped up with paywalled sources, because all of that can be problematic. My notes ARE the evidence. Reading the notes is THE ACT of verifying the notes. This is also why we need 2 sources. If I saw Joe drop his spoon on the floor, and photographed it and made notes about it, if there is no other 'source material' to back up the basics of what I'm writing, then it probably wasn't/isn't newsworthy.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:14, 21 July 2021 (UTC) :::: You being vetted as trustworthy does not absolve you from requiring to provide evidence. When reviewing your notes, I am trusting the source you used and your memory. Writing about something from a paywalled source and publishing it requires to put my faith in something I cannot myself see, let alone verify. And that is unacceptable. Gaining access to something which the reviewer is barred, and people generally are barred, is inadmissible. The reporter is trying to report without bias in an ideal case, factual; however, the info they provide is still dependent on the source they see. And paywall is a strict no. You want to go ahead and consider it by putting trust in it; go ahead. But I won't consider it verified should the information not be accessible to me. And that is precisely why we avoid the situation of ARs using "Oh believe me, I saw it" situation when they report something that cannot be verified from sources.<br>[[Special:Contributions/117.198.177.144|117.198.177.144]] ([[User talk:117.198.177.144|talk]]) 19:32, 21 July 2021 (UTC) :As I've ''tried'' to make clear, I'm not a big fan of paywalled sources, here or anywhere for that matter. But let's make it simple:before today, have we had any policies that specifically address the topic in terms of guidance for sources?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC) ::Unfortunate, considering that seems to be the most complete source of his work history. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:12, 20 July 2021 (UTC) ::While I'm here, I'd like to give you a heads-up, there's another OR coming pretty soon (interview on Thursday, probably will start writing it later that day), and I don't want there to be too much of a backlog, so if you could put the Sirr article further up your priority queue that'd be great. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC) == Remind me == .....it's fuzzy: What is the proper way to Wikilink stuff in an article? The syntax, I mean.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:27, 21 July 2021 (UTC) :You should be using {{tl|w}} for wikilinking. {{tl|wikt}} if you want to link to wiktionary. &#123;{w|Foo}} will create a wikilink to Wikipedia page foo, if &#91;[Foo]] does not exist. If it does, it will link to local page. &#123;{w|Foo|Bar}} will create a link to foo, but the display text will be Bar. &#123;{w|Foo|anchor=SomeSection}} will like to the subsection "SomeSection" of the page foo.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 04:00, 22 July 2021 (UTC) ::I get it now. Thanks. And: that new 'Revision Slider' thing is cool! I don't know who made it, but I like it!--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:07, 22 July 2021 (UTC) :::I have never figured out its use, and quite frankly, it just slows up the page so I don't use that.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 16:08, 22 July 2021 (UTC) == When you get a moment.......... == Could you ask Gryllida to check her Talk page....I requested a 'Crat take action and it appears we currently only have one.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:39, 21 July 2021 (UTC) :She's been around here recently, but seemingly no action taken re: the RfP stuff. I contacted ''at least'' 4 Stewards at Meta, and only 1 replied. They wouldn't take action because we have a 'crat. But: well.........whatevs.......I guess we just wait......for who knows how long?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:09, 26 July 2021 (UTC) ::She said she will look soon. However, if you do want to message her in real time, consider [https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/ joining IRC]. Use irc.libera.chat as server, and use a username bddpaux and then type "/j #wn-reporters". Depending on the time, you will find LivelyRatification, gry, mikemoral and me there. Mike is on #wikinews and #wikinews-en too.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 15:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC) ::CC {{re|Bddpaux}}.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 15:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC) == Please review my article == Please review [[Floods in central China kill 25]] when you can. [[User:Pizza0614|Pizza0614]] ([[User talk:Pizza0614|talk]]) 00:54, 22 July 2021 (UTC) == Thanks == Thanks for changing the categories for my user cat! —[[User:Chaetodipus|chaetodipus]] ([[User talk:chaetodipus|talk]] &middot; [[Special:Contributions/Chaetodipus|contribs]]) 01:09, 22 July 2021 (UTC) :Moving the cats was easy. Wikifying and fixing the sources was the annoying part. In case if you use pywikibot, the command is: `python3 pwb.py category move -from:"Mikemoral (Wikinewsie)" -to:"Chaetodipus (Wikinewsie)" -pt:0`. Make sure you use [[special:BotPasswords]] and enable editing protected pages. They need to be manually sighted.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 04:22, 22 July 2021 (UTC) == OK....... == Go here: [[Wikinews:Credential verification]] Why is my email address wrong, but yours isn't?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:47, 22 July 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Bddpaux}} [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Credential_verification&diff=4629964&oldid=4589431 it was manually changed].<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.105.64|103.48.105.64]] ([[User talk:103.48.105.64|talk]]) 01:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC) == IRC == Could you get on to complete accreditation? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC) == Are you......... == .....still reviewing that COVID article? I might be able to finish it, but I'd need to hear from you in the next 20 minutes, or so. Very busy with work right now.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:09, 23 July 2021 (UTC) :I am having trouble finding some things, maybe because of rapid fact changes? Maybe if you can have a look, that would be better -- but the numbers seem ot be off.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 15:11, 23 July 2021 (UTC) ::OK....I will; always a pet peeve of mine when source organizations don't actually create NEW articles......they just endlessly tweak a standing article.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:15, 23 July 2021 (UTC) :::Honestly: sources weren't too bad. I massage'd it a bit more than I care to, but it was a good submission.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:27, 23 July 2021 (UTC) ::::It isn't bad, but they had fluctuating numbers.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 15:28, 23 July 2021 (UTC) == Bureaucrat == Gry did respond, indicating she'd voted (I couldn't see where, though).....but was a wee bit vague on when she might take ''action'' on the action for 'Crats. Any ideas on your end?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:09, 27 July 2021 (UTC) == To make sure I understand.......... == Once an article is reviewed/published, the article is to be Protected. Auto-confirmed users can edit/add/take away (those changes must be sighted), but only Admins. can actually MOVE articles, right?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:34, 27 July 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Bddpaux}} yes, that is correct.<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.104.72|103.48.104.72]] ([[User talk:103.48.104.72|talk]]) 01:06, 28 July 2021 (UTC) == Abuse filter? == Is that a bot? If so, how does it work?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Bddpaux}} it is an extension. If an edit matches a specified patter, those edits can be classified and further automated actions can be taken. More about it is [[m:extension:AbuseFilter|here]]. ::From a clean-up perspective, can you teach me how to do blocks? I should know how to do those.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:57, 29 July 2021 (UTC) :::{{re|Bddpaux}} Do you mean blocking accounts whose edits were caught in the filter? Or blocking accounts in general?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:04, 29 July 2021 (UTC) == Protect?? == Please make sure I did protection correctly on that Australia article I just published.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:49, 1 August 2021 (UTC) == Let's try this again........... == What is the proper syntax for wikilinking (and why?) Why is the 'bad' way the bad way? '''Pandemic''' in that article took the reader straight to the Wikipedia article for the word 'pandemic'.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 01:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Bddpaux}} {{tl|w}}. [https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:Acagastya#Remind_me or you can scroll up, it was mentioned there].<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.106.234|103.48.106.234]] ([[User talk:103.48.106.234|talk]]) 01:58, 13 August 2021 (UTC) ::OK. So the way pandemic was wikilink'd took the reader straight to Wikipedia. Is that good or bad? Are we (by using any links) hoping to ONLY link them to Cat pages here at WN? I'm sort of trying to figure out what the 'crime' is here, ''so-to-speak''.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:00, 13 August 2021 (UTC) :::I feel linking to pandemic was redundant. Not like they don't ''know'' what pandemic is -- {{tl|wikt}} would suit betteer for that purpose if we really want audience to know what pandemic means.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 03:16, 14 August 2021 (UTC) == Category:Catred == Re:[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Catred&diff=4635213&oldid=4635140 this edit], I’ve seen how other wikis do this and it does not involve the ordinary REDIRECT magic word. They use a table but that is easily replaced by existing templates we already use, e.g. {{tl|ombox}}. Very little of what I added matches other wikis word got word but there are obvious limits. Licensing differences don’t mean we cannot use wiki code. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 15:04, 17 August 2021 (UTC) :Licensing difference also means we cannot use wiki code as it is as under the license -- but I don't understand why we need to make it look like other wikis? We should *NOT* have category -> category redirects, after all. So it makes it a very rare thing to begin with.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 15:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC) ::The licensing differences do not apply to wiki code unless there is wholesale copying. For example, as far as I know, there is only one way of putting in a condition like <code>{{#ifeq:{{PAGESINCAT:{{PAGENAME}}}}|0||</code>. It would be impossible to do that in my own words because those are the words needed for it to work. I agree we should not copy things wholesale but this is a snippet for an unavoidable thing. I’m not trying to make it look like other wikis except to improve wherever possible. As for whether to have category redirects, I have seen several categories which we don’t need because there are more relevant categories e.g. [[:Category:Missing citations]] has not been used in a long time because we use the Sources template. I’ve redirected it to [[:Category:Sources]]. Then there is [[:Category:OTRS]] which needed to be moved to [[:Category:VRT]] but we shouldn’t delete the old category because it might still be linked to from elsewhere. Finally I’ve moved [[:Category:Interview]] to [[:Category:Interviews]] which wouldn’t work well if I’d deleted the original category. So I’d say we need a redirect template to clarify to other users. To be fair, you must have had a reason to create the template in 2018. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:13, 17 August 2021 (UTC) :::Yeah, of course, those things are too simple to be copyrighted, I assumed we both had that in the back of our mind. When I created it, pi said we won't really require it, because cat->cat redirect is highly discouraged. But he didn't delete it, and it is sitting there, without any good use. Don't know what to do, but yes, your edits seem all right! Cheers!<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:31, 17 August 2021 (UTC) == Team categories == Not so much encyclopedic as trying to bear in mind the unresolved discussion at [[:Category talk:Cristiano Ronaldo]]. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 09:45, 5 September 2021 (UTC) == IRC == I've tried to reach out multiple times on IRC, so I'll do so here as well. Could we arrange a time to do the review process, or, if necessary, expedite the process to another reviewer? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 22:13, 5 September 2021 (UTC) I ask again, could we find a time? --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 19:59, 6 September 2021 (UTC) And once again, could we find a time? {{re|Acagastya}} --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 17:11, 7 September 2021 (UTC) And yet again. --[[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 20:42, 15 September 2021 (UTC) == Switching accounts == Hello, it's ICameHereForNews. I am now using this account because I have decided that I would like to use this account as my global account. Could you please move [[User:ICameHereForNews|my old userpage]] to [[User:CheatCodes4ever|my new userpage]]? [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 21:23, 4 October 2021 (UTC) <br> Also, please do the same thing with my talk page. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 21:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC) :{{re|CheatCodes4ever}} I think you should put {{tl|doppelganger|CheatCodes4ever}} on [[user:ICameHereForNews]] and [[user talk:ICameHereForNews]]. Moving seems to be something I am not sure about; because the account wasn't renamed.<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.105.78|103.48.105.78]] ([[User talk:103.48.105.78|talk]]) 07:51, 5 October 2021 (UTC) The reason I would like it moved is because I would like to have the history and content of my userpage. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 20:16, 5 October 2021 (UTC) <br> Never mind, I'm going to use a global userpage now. Could you please delete my userpage? [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 00:49, 6 November 2021 (UTC) == [[:File:61417197c2766.image.jpg]] copyright violation == {{ping|Henrymyman}} and {{ping|LivelyRatification}} as well; This file, in use on [[Inter-Korean communication lines restored]], is a copyright violation. As has been repeatedly established in various deletion discussions on Commons ([[Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kim Jong Un Gives Guidance to Nuclear Weaponization (hydrogen bomb) - 2017.jpg|example]]), images from the Korean Central News Agency are not available under a license compatible with Commons requirements. I recommend immediate removal of this file from this news story. Best regards, --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 12:38, 14 October 2021 (UTC) :{{re|Hammersoft}} It'll be replaced then. [[User:Henrymyman|Henrymyman]] ([[User talk:Henrymyman|talk]]) 12:49, 14 October 2021 (UTC) :: Thank you. --[[User:Hammersoft|Hammersoft]] ([[User talk:Hammersoft|talk]]) 12:50, 14 October 2021 (UTC) ::Per archival policy, we can't replace the photo post-24-hour mark. We need commons admin to delete it ({{ping|Cromium}}) and then we can mark that file as {{tl|missing image}}. [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 13:17, 14 October 2021 (UTC) == Recent attacks in Afghanistan == Hello Acagastya, how are you doing? Please see [[d:Q108905779]] - as on some other Wikinews versions, both the recent attacks may be "wrapped" into one single article (to keep the topic "fresh" at the moment it is published, in line with your policy here). [[User:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[User talk:De Wikischim|talk]]) 22:18, 16 October 2021 (UTC) :{{re|De Wikischim}} hi. If someone could translate and write it here (English sources would be greatly appreciated; as we don't have fr/nl speaking reviewers), maybe one of us could review. I can't promise anything, since I am pre-occupied for my exams. [[Special:Contributions/103.48.104.51|103.48.104.51]] ([[User talk:103.48.104.51|talk]]) 04:45, 17 October 2021 (UTC) == Thank you == {{ping|Acagastya}}, I just started working on Wikinews and I do not have enough experience. Thank you for help. [[User:Miladtayan|Miladtayan]] ([[User talk:Miladtayan|talk]]) 08:48, 17 November 2021 (UTC) == Award of Journalistic Magnificence == [[File:Award of Journalistic Magnificence.jpg|thumb|200px|left|The Award of Journalistic Magnificence is given to writers who complete a substantive body of work or series of articles, primarily focused on matters of national and/or political significance for any given nation. This extremely overdue award is being given for [[:Category:Acagastya (Wikinewsie)|two particular groups of articles]]: match reports for football (soccer) and interviews with scientists, which you’ve been writing for a number of years. The award is also to recognise your reviewing work and admin tasks. Thank you very much for your efforts and I hope you will continue to do so well into the future. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 15:06, 29 November 2021 (UTC)]] :Thanks, {{re|Cromium}}.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 11:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC) {{clear}} == Do you enjoy blocking accounts? == Does blocking accounts make you horny? Oh baby! Does it make you feel good at night? Is it better than porn for you? You know you want to rub oil on the people who you block. You filthy pervert. The only reason you were made an admin is because you can't give a decent bedroom performance. I recommend that you spend some time at the gym and eat something healthy (maybe an apple) instead of Kentucky Fried Chicken.--[[User:10s and Thunders|10s and Thunders]] ([[User talk:10s and Thunders|talk]]) 02:44, 30 November 2021 (UTC) :{{re|10s and Thunders}} jokes on you, I am vegan.<br>[[Special:Contributions/103.48.104.14|103.48.104.14]] ([[User talk:103.48.104.14|talk]]) 03:27, 30 November 2021 (UTC) == Suggestions Wanted!! == In [[WHO classifies new South African variant of COVID-19 'Omicron' as 'Variant of Concern']] a new section can be added which would include recent updates about the news. For e.g. ==Recent Developments== <br>Is it okay to add it? [[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 16:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC) :{{re|2006nishan178713}} news articles don't do "recent developments" -- that is encyclopædic. News articles are snapshot in time and therefore should be focused around that. If you feel there was a recent development about the new variant -- there should be a separate article discussing just that. See these articles for example [[Pakistan's National Assembly passes bill to merge Federally Administered Tribal Areas with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa]], [[Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Provincial Assembly votes to merge with Pakistani Federally Administered Tribal Areas]], [[Pakistani President signs bill to merge Federally Administered Tribal Areas with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa]]<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 05:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC) == Question == I didn't understand this. Can you please explain?? https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Russian_President_Putin_visits_India,_signs_major_trade_and_arms_deal&diff=4652547&oldid=4652546&diffmode=source[[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 05:25, 8 December 2021 (UTC) :Understood [[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 06:21, 8 December 2021 (UTC) ::{{re|2006nishan178713}} which dollar is it -- better to specify.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 11:19, 8 December 2021 (UTC) == Request deletion == Please delete - *[[Gameshow producer spoke out about "will divorce his wife if he doesn't have a son"]] (Exact copyvio of https://nld.com.vn/giai-tri/nha-san-xuat-gameshow-len-tieng-vu-se-ly-hon-vo-neu-khong-de-con-trai-20211203162830872.htm) *[[December 3: There were 13,670 cases of COVID-19 in 59 provinces and cities; Hanoi has a record high of 791 cases]] (Machine translation to english of https://moh.gov.vn/tin-lien-quan/-/asset_publisher/vjYyM7O9aWnX/content/ngay-3-12-co-13-670-ca-covid-19-tai-59-tinh-thanh-pho-ha-noi-cao-ky-luc-voi-791-ca-mac) [[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 06:22, 8 December 2021 (UTC) :{{re|2006nishan178713}} consider tagging for {{tl|speedy}}.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 11:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC) == Delete == This article is to be deleted today [[Killamarsh, UK quadruple murder suspect also charged with rape]] [[User:2006nishan178713|2006nishan178713]] ([[User talk:2006nishan178713|talk]]) 05:41, 10 December 2021 (UTC) == 'Chess engine' article == This article has been floating, unpublished for quite some time. Do you plan to take some action on it soon? Perhaps move it into a Sandbox maybe?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:44, 10 December 2021 (UTC) == My status == Hi ... long time ... sorry. Unfortunately I cannot commit enough time nor be reliable enough to be a bureaucrat. I will try to check in often enough so that I can remain an emergency sysop. I hope all is well with you. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 03:11, 12 December 2021 (UTC) == Wikinewsie == https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Cloud_VPS_2021_Purge#wikinewsie You know better than me on whether that's still in use. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 12:08, 15 December 2021 (UTC) ==A request== Could you please delete [[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|my talk page]]? I would like to use my old talk page instead, but then move it. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 22:39, 28 December 2021 (UTC) :Which one? You have quite a history. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 02:07, 29 December 2021 (UTC) ::The one I linked to. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 07:04, 21 January 2022 (UTC) :::I guess I should clarify as I know what page you want deleted, but what is the talk page you want to move to that space? Also, this is a highly unusual procedure. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 12:09, 21 January 2022 (UTC) :{{ping|SVTCobra}} Sorry for the late reply, but I would like [[User talk:ICameHereForNews]] renamed to [[User talk:CheatCodes4ever]]. [[User:CheatCodes4ever|CheatCodes4ever]] ([[User talk:CheatCodes4ever|talk]]) 04:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC) == Abuse filter == Hi, I think [[Special:AbuseLog/15502]] is a false positive for the cs-spam rule. Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 17:09, 30 December 2021 (UTC) :It happened again. [[Special:AbuseLog/15503]]. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 13:59, 31 December 2021 (UTC) ::You may wish to consider excluding talk /ns:1 from the filter. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 23:18, 31 December 2021 (UTC) == [[special:abusefilter/38]] == Hi. I have removed all the complex string matches in the second half of the filter, and that didn't trigger the false positives when retested, though did let through one of two positives. Probably better to restart building those sort of straight string matches anew as they are always a little hit and miss. Also noting that that sort of spamming for /38 has stopped for a while now. — [[user:billinghurst|billinghurst]] ''<span style="font-size:smaller">[[user talk:billinghurst|sDrewth]]</span>'' 23:16, 31 December 2021 (UTC) == How we will see unregistered users == <section begin=content/> Hi! You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki. When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed. Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin '''will still be able to access the IP'''. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on [[m:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation/Improving tools|better tools]] to help. If you have not seen it before, you can [[m:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation|read more on Meta]]. If you want to make sure you don’t miss technical changes on the Wikimedia wikis, you can [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|subscribe]] to [[m:Tech/News|the weekly technical newsletter]]. We have [[m:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation#IP Masking Implementation Approaches (FAQ)|two suggested ways]] this identity could work. '''We would appreciate your feedback''' on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can [[m:Talk:IP Editing: Privacy Enhancement and Abuse Mitigation|let us know on the talk page]]. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January. Thank you. /[[m:User:Johan (WMF)|Johan (WMF)]]<section end=content/> 18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Johan (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Johan_(WMF)/Target_lists/Admins2022(3)&oldid=22532499 --> == Unused files == Hello. Doing some background admin stuff and saw these files you uploaded a few years ago. They are not in use anywhere and seem to all be marked as fair use although they also have free licenses from yourself. 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['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 18:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC) :To be moved to commons, {{re|Cromium}}. Just that I was going to use either pywikibot, or the APIs, but that is stalled.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:01, 24 January 2022 (UTC) ::Understood. No worries. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 09:48, 24 January 2022 (UTC) == Test page == Where can I put the Test page or sandbox?--[[Special:Contributions/47.234.198.142|47.234.198.142]] ([[User talk:47.234.198.142|talk]]) 23:20, 30 January 2022 (UTC) :We have the [[:Wikinews:Sandbox]] if you want to test something. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 00:28, 31 January 2022 (UTC) == Temporary change to article length == Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from February 1 to April 30 to encourage more articles to be published per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4659525|proposal]]. The minimum requirements for [[:WN:LENGTH|article length]] will be one paragraph of at least a hundred words. At the end of the trial the requirements will return to normal (3 paragraphs etc) and there will be an evaluation discussion about the trial. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:20, 31 January 2022 (UTC) == Abuse filter == Hi. Any ideas for how we can improve the spam filters to stop this wave of phone number spam? Cheers, --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 16:07, 15 March 2022 (UTC) :{{re|SVTCobra}} I have added a rather loose rule in #37, which I hope should work? If it does not, ping me here and I will check?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 16:24, 15 March 2022 (UTC) == Archiving == Uff. You have just gone and done what Cromimum and I were avoiding. See [[User talk:Cromium#Archiving]]. --[[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 06:57, 1 April 2022 (UTC) :It is 10 or a week, as pi used to put it. But if we are sticking to 12, let's put out two quickly, then!<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 07:32, 1 April 2022 (UTC) ::We were experimenting with trying to fill the whitespace on the front page without a hard and fast number. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 14:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC) :::That depends on the size of the lede. It grows and shrinks -- so that is going to be a rather difficult task for rather trivial problem -- white-spaces will depend on screen-resolution, browser CSS and what not. Is there something more to it, or are we just trying to minimise the white-space?<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 10:30, 2 April 2022 (UTC) ::::It was mainly to eliminate whitespace for aesthetics and evolve Pi zero's philosophy of keeping the list longer than the policy strictly proscribes. Cromimum was viewing on a phone and I on a computer, and things lined up. But I can see that things do change a bit when I use the zoom feature on my browser. [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 16:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC) :::::The white space is going to be enoromous on phone, (it is not visible if you use m.wikinews as compared to desktop site), if you change skins, or have custom CSS (I have zoomed in, and large fonts for better reading), that will be affected too. Ten + few should be okay, but more than 15, that starts getting too long, imo. [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 16:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC) == Requested edit == Please edit [[User:Acagastya/popup.js]] to remove the redlink "[[:Category:X1]]" example. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:41, 10 April 2022 (UTC) :Should be done now.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 18:14, 10 April 2022 (UTC) == Re: accreditation == Thinking of going out—wondering whether I can be forwarded a final copy of my WN press pass. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 15:52, 19 May 2022 (UTC) :Also, I got a new phone, and now no longer have access to Authenticator for WN login, which means I cannot review OR articles (cc {{re|LivelyRatification}}) or make any e-mails. Please can we coordinate a time for troubleshooting. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 05:52, 20 May 2022 (UTC) ::{{re|JJLiu112}} Feel free to send me any alternative email if you have one to forward on the correspondence to. [[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 05:56, 20 May 2022 (UTC) :::Please forward to jjliu112@yahoo.com. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:06, 20 May 2022 (UTC) ::::{{re|LivelyRatification}} [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC) :::::{{re|JJLiu112}} Hi, sorry I didn't get to this, was busy all day yesterday. Given the election has happened already, I think the article would be stale, but I've forwarded it on. [[User:LivelyRatification|LivelyRatification]] ([[User talk:LivelyRatification|talk]]) 19:58, 21 May 2022 (UTC) :{{re|JJLiu112}} I am hoping your phone number hasn't changed since (I don't remember our discussion of the blood group, so sending one with and without one -- you can fill up at your own leisure if you like) -- please check your email which I will send shortly.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 06:19, 20 May 2022 (UTC) ::{{re|JJLiu112}} please PING me on IRC (acagastya@libera.chat) in about 12 hours from now? (Regarding the email problem.) [https://time-convertor.toolforge.org/1653070920 That should be around 1:30 PM in US/Central?]<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 06:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC) :::I've school tomorrow. Does 22:00 work (08:30 New Delhi time)? [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:56, 20 May 2022 (UTC) ::::22:30 or 23:00 would still be better, yes. [https://time-convertor.toolforge.org/1653105600 TC link.] [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 07:06, 20 May 2022 (UTC) ::I have downloaded the images. Thank you very much. [[User:JJLiu112|JJLiu112]] ([[User talk:JJLiu112|talk]]) 06:57, 20 May 2022 (UTC) == Temporary change to freshness == Hello. As a reviewer, this note is just to let you know we are implementing a trial from July 4 to October 4 to enable more articles to be reviewed per the outcome of a current [[:Special:Diff/4682800|proposal]]. The freshness window is being extended to about five to seven days. At the end of the trial the window will continue to be at 5-7 days while we discuss whether to adopt the change permanently or not. Happy reviewing! ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 17:40, 4 July 2022 (UTC) == WN-reporters == I can log in to my email account at wn-reporters.org, but can't actually send an email. How is the status of things there?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 22:20, 11 July 2022 (UTC) == Calendar updates ... == Is that you or a bot? I know some people want your input on things. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 07:16, 1 August 2022 (UTC) == [[200 in New Delhi, India drink cow urine to fight off COVID-19]] and [[:Category:Wackynews]] == Hello, long time since we interacted! Good to see you! Anyway, Pi zero and I debated Wackynews in the past. He convinced me it is best left unused. It is far too subjective what is "wacky". Is drinking cow urine bizarre? I don't know, but it '''is''' unusual and may not make sense to other people. Doesn't every religion have something that ''most'' other people would consider bizarre or wacky? ''"Wacky Muslims walk in a circle around a stone block in the desert"'' or perhaps ''"Wacky Christians think Jesus came back from the dead"''. Also, the use of Wackynews could be seen as personally disrespectful. If a person died in a freak accident (and 'freak' is a loaded term, too) which was highly unlikely, is that Wackynews? I wouldn't want to read about a relative of mine dying in an unusual manner being consider wacky. I do not know where there are archives of these discussions, but the idea was to keep the category because it has so many old stories and even subcategories, but to stop using it in new articles. I am certainly open to more input on this topic, especially since Pi zero is no longer with us. Cheers, [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 04:07, 12 August 2022 (UTC) == Are you OK? == Hi, haven't seen you for a while. Are you alright? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:50, 14 August 2022 (UTC) == Protection Request == I notice that you are one of the more active Admins on this project. Would you be able to semi-protect my Talk page to only allow autoconfirmed users to edit it? LTA IP accounts are spamming me and also repeatedly trying to hack into my account (multiple failed login emails). [[User:Xania|Xania]] ([[User talk:Xania|talk]]) 04:44, 31 October 2022 (UTC) :{{done}} -- [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 11:23, 31 October 2022 (UTC) ==維基新聞2022 == 供您採取行動：https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Cloud_VPS_2022_Purge#wikinewsie [[使用者：Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[使用者談話：Leaderboard|talk]]) 2023年1月3日15:13（UTC） == Are you be right? == How are You? My friend. I hope to reach some plans and cooperation from various wikinews language programs... But I'm surprised to find that you haven't appeared for a long time. Are you okay? Greetings, happy New Year, I wish you good health and peace...--[[User:Kitabc12345|Kitabc12345]] ([[User talk:Kitabc12345|talk]]) 05:54, 15 January 2023 (UTC) :Sorry, I seem to have made an error in the above post. Sorry, I didn't mean to. QwQ [[User:Kitabc12345|Kitabc12345]] ([[User talk:Kitabc12345|talk]]) 05:57, 15 January 2023 (UTC) == [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023]] == Hello. We've created [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023]], which will start on February 1 and end on May 1. It is modeled on the successful 2010 and 2013 contests. As a reviewer and accredited reporter who has recently been inactive, it would be a great time for you to rejoin. If you are interested in signing up, please do so at [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023#Entrants]] and [[Wikinews:Writing contest 2023#Point scoring|create a category for the articles you submit]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 04:00, 27 January 2023 (UTC) == Happy == So happy to see you log in. I've been struggling to keep up with the spam. How are you? [[User:SVTCobra|'''SVT''']][[User Talk:SVTCobra|''Cobra'']] 06:52, 30 January 2023 (UTC) == Email..... == What is the state of our WN Reporters email account? Is it still active? I am having trouble logging into my account.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 17:01, 3 May 2023 (UTC) :Hi, I'd like to also reset my password to wn-reporters email please. Alas, I lost a hard drive last year with my wn-reporters email and ssh access info. (Note: in this instance 'lost' means I still have possession of it; it's bricked as a part of the laptop melted.) Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:36, 15 May 2023 (UTC) ::I guess too late to bring you all in a ping, but I can look into it tonight. Sorry for being AWOL, folks.<br>[[Special:Contributions/115.242.145.126|115.242.145.126]] ([[User talk:115.242.145.126|talk]]) 11:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC) :::Glad you're still alive! What is the status? I need a password re-set for my email account.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:41, 30 June 2023 (UTC) :Just checking in... I need to access my email... as do many other people.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:45, 3 July 2023 (UTC) ::For some reason, I am locked out of IRC, {{ping|Bddpaux|Gryllida}}, how can I connect with you guys to get back the access? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 06:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC) :::did you get back onto irc? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 16:26, 15 August 2023 (UTC) I don't know. I don't really mess around in the IRC world.....sorry. Can you contact me via email to give me my wikinewsie email log-in credentials? --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 20:50, 6 July 2023 (UTC) :::Got your email... thanks. The re-set didn't work, though.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:28, 7 July 2023 (UTC) :And, furthermore: I would be glad to help you with the co$t of maintaining that space/service.... just tell me how I can do that.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:53, 7 July 2023 (UTC) ::{{ping|Bddpaux}} what do you mean the reset didn't work? It was supposed to be done at "https://mail.wn-reporters.org/" -- and just put the username (that is, if your email was foo@wn-reporters.org, just enter foo there, then the current password. Then the new password.)<br>[[Special:Contributions/2401:4900:1F29:4263:4C15:9A2C:3D72:6BE2|2401:4900:1F29:4263:4C15:9A2C:3D72:6BE2]] ([[User talk:2401:4900:1F29:4263:4C15:9A2C:3D72:6BE2|talk]]) 14:42, 31 August 2023 (UTC) :::{{ping|Acagastya}}Yeah, well: it appears I've lost my old password. Can I get a fresh re-set, please?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:02, 18 September 2023 (UTC) ::::{{ping|Acagastya}} Hello?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC) == Need your input on a policy impacting gadgets and UserJS == <div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"> Dear interface administrator, This is Samuel from the Security team and I hope my message finds you well. There is an [[m:Talk:Third-party resources policy|ongoing discussion]] on a proposed policy governing the use of external resources in gadgets and UserJS. The proposed [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Third-party resources policy|Third-party resources policy]] aims at making the UserJS and Gadgets landscape a bit safer by encouraging best practices around external resources. After an initial non-public conversation with a small number of interface admins and staff, we've launched a much larger, public consultation to get a wider pool of feedback for improving the policy proposal. Based on the ideas received so far, the proposed policy now includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, best practices for gadgets and UserJS developers, and exemptions requirements such as code transparency and inspectability. As an interface administrator, your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on the [[m:Talk:Third-party resources policy|policy talk page]]. Have a great day!</div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[m:User:Samuel (WMF)|Samuel (WMF)]], on behalf of the Foundation's Security team</bdi> 23:02, 7 July 2023 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Samuel (WMF)@metawiki using the list at https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Samuel_(WMF)/IAdmins_MassMessage_list_1&oldid=25272788 --> :Why are you asking this here? Would the proposed policy change affect any of the gadgets at this wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 16:27, 15 August 2023 (UTC) == [[:File:2018 Bangalore ComicCon (media) 8.jpg]] == Hi! This file does not have a license. Perhaps you could add one? Also I'm thinking most of the ComicCon files should be moved to Commons. If they are free they can be used on other wikis. If they are derivative works then they should be deleted anyway. So there is no big risk moving unused files to Commons. As I understand it Commons allow most files now. It is mostly a problem if the photo show a mask. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 14:50, 2 August 2023 (UTC) :[[User:MGA73|MGA73]]: It appears the organizers of that ComicCon forbade Acagastya from using media produced there anywhere but at ''Wikinews'', yet Acagastya said above they had planned to export all those to Commons. Well, I don't know how that'd be compatible with the restrictions given. At any rate, I've copied over the licensing used on other files in that cat to this one. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 18:02, 9 August 2023 (UTC) ::[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] according to [[:c:Commons:Non-copyright_restrictions#"House_rules"]] that is no problem for Commons. However it could perhaps limit the future access to making good photos if the organizers of that ComicCon find out and is upset about it. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 15:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC) == DEFAULTSORT and EzPR == Can I ask why you did [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3AGadget-easyPeerReview.js&diff=4577164&oldid=4293058 this]? It seems to me we'd ''want'' to keep DEFAULTSORT, especially as the DPLs think an article was published on the day DEFAULTSORT was added, so adding it after the day of publication creates problems &mdash; I've seen admins add DEFAULTSORT to archived articles like your [['Rock and roll never dies': Italy wins Eurovision after 30 years]], pushing them to the top of the DPLs (which is why WN:ARCHIVE says not to). [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 18:42, 9 August 2023 (UTC) == Please take some time out of your busy schedule == Dear Acagastya, Hello and I hope you and your family are doing well. * I'm getting digital ocean failed payment receipts * Lacking access to wn-reporters, either via ** ssh or ** scoop email, :as my previous laptop melted and hard drive died Could you please take around 10 minutes out of your busy work or family schedule and investigate. 1) For ssh access my new pubkey is included below. ssh-rsa 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 ADUNSW+z3480510@L-B2HDRG3 2) For digital ocean payments I will require my own digital ocean account to be added to the list of people who can pay bills for wn-reporters. My digital ocean ID is "svetlana.tkachenko@fastmail.com" and it may or may not work. Testing may be necessary to see how this will work. (This may require additional time from you at around the time the invoice is due, or repeated follow ups in case it doesn't work and requires support from DigitalOcean.) 3) For scoop email I believe that I require a password reset, ... 3a) ...and instructions how to set and reset passwords for other users such as new reviewers. Many many thanks and I hope to hear from you soon. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:08, 6 September 2023 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], did you try Acagastya's [https://mail.wn-reporters.org/ link for a password reset]? [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 05:29, 6 September 2023 (UTC) ::Don't have my current passphrase. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:00, 11 September 2023 (UTC) :::I had emailed you, do you require a new one? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:53, 1 October 2023 (UTC) :The SSH key was added (for the `gry` account, not the `svetlana_tkachenko`.) You can check groups(1) for both. [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:58, 1 October 2023 (UTC) == Freshness on this interview == Hi, I was wondering if you could advise, when you have a chance, on your assessment of [['Creativity is boundless': Wikinews interviews science fiction artist Artnoob100|this interview]]'s freshness; it was conducted (by a newbie) on August 25. With the not-ready-revise-resubmit cycle (which included another reviewer judging it stale on September 26 but then agreeing with my disagreement with that assessment, after which I left it untouched for a while because it'd seemed they were going to re-review it) and myself getting distracted with other reviews (prominently, [[Wikinews attends Animeleague's summer 2023 Birmingham, UK Anime & Gaming Con|this]]), the first month or so in which I'd be comfortable with the freshness for its sort based on precedent vanished. And, now, even if the author is able to respond immediately to my latest query on the talk page, I don't feel comfortable with it. :S [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 16:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC) :{{ping|Heavy Water}} a quick glance at the interview, it doesn't pass the [[WN:SG]], and it looks more like a promo, tbrh. I am not comfortable with the tone. But given there isn't an immediate expiry of freshness, should those problems be addressed, I don't see why it can't be moved forward.<Br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 04:27, 10 October 2023 (UTC) ::OK, thanks. I'll take that into account if and when I do a full review on it. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 05:08, 10 October 2023 (UTC) == Use of geocats on cats == Sorry to occupy your time with this. I think [[Category talk:News articles by person|these 2019 discussions]] were where I got that notion from. Pi zero said therein, "[G]eocats themselves usually only belong to the next category up the ladder: Category:Boston, Massachusetts belongs to Category:Massachusetts, but not to Category:United States nor to Category:North America; which is done that way to avoid cluttering up the list of subcategories of the larger geocats." ({{plainlinks|{{fullurl:Category:Guam|action=history}}|here}}, the same principle is treated as not just usual, but SOP). Later in the same discussion, he extended it to categorization of other cats: "Re geocats, as I already noted, the category relations don't get transitive closure: if he's [Robert Dziekański, beaten to death by police in Vancouver] in Vancouver, he wouldn't be in British Columbia, nor Canada, nor North America; we'd choose ''one'' of those." (For what it's worth, I agree these shouldn't be categorized into geocats higher than the lowest-level to minimize clutter. It seems to me that's a main reason we would subcategorize within the tree, instead of their existence being simply for collating articles for and providing more specific reader-facing DPLs.) [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 19:14, 11 October 2023 (UTC) :For categories, yes, it should be just one higher-up, but we even had discussions for country-level, because states will be many a times empty, other than a few popular places.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 04:43, 12 October 2023 (UTC) ::Sorry, so you're saying a geocat's only parent geocat would be next-level, while, say, the Delhi Sealing Drive cat's would be the Delhi NCT and even India? [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 18:54, 13 October 2023 (UTC) :::No, that was my mistake. [[Special:Contributions/2401:4900:1CC4:C3FB:88FD:55C0:33ED:D599|2401:4900:1CC4:C3FB:88FD:55C0:33ED:D599]] ([[User talk:2401:4900:1CC4:C3FB:88FD:55C0:33ED:D599|talk]]) 19:22, 15 October 2023 (UTC) == Question about DR and comment about bot == Hi! There is not much action on either [[Wikinews:Bots#Requests]] or [[Wikinews:Deletion_requests#825_sxw-files]]. With no active crats I will try to ask a steward on Meta about the bot flag. Is there any chance you could have a look and decide what to do with the DR? If I'm granted a bot flag it would be nice to know if the sxw-files are to be deleted or not. If they are deleted I will skip them. If they are to be kept I will fix them with my bot. The background info is now located at [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance/archives/2023/August]]. Thanks a lot --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 14:39, 16 October 2023 (UTC) == Source of files == Hi! You have uploaded some photos in [[:Category:Acagastya (Wikinewsie)]]. You have not added a source. Are you the photographer? If yes perhaps you could chose a free license instead of fair use? --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 09:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC) :If [[User:MGA73|you]]'re referring to the Tippu Express images (which are the only source-less images I see in there), they are credited to "Mysore Division, South Western Railway" by the relevant articles. But I also note [[Talk:Wikinews discusses International Women's Day celebration with Mysore Divisional Railway Manager#Media files|this]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 04:51, 5 December 2023 (UTC) :: Thank you [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]]. Yes it was those. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 12:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC) ::: [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] and Acagastya, I fixed [[:File:All-women crew steers Tippu Express (1).jpg]]. You are welcome to check. Can copy to other files once checked. [[Template:GODL-India]] does not exist here on Wikinews so I made a link instead. But I think we should have the license here too. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 19:12, 5 December 2023 (UTC) == social media == Hi, [[Wikinews:Water_cooler/miscellaneous#social_media_for_reviewers_and_authors_and_developers]] may be of interest to you as a reviewer, thanks and regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:52, 12 December 2023 (UTC) == [[:Category:CC BY-NC-ND 2.5 IN]] == Hi! Any chance you would relicense those photos and remove the NC and ND? If not they need a fair use rationale. --[[User:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[User talk:MGA73|talk]]) 10:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC) == Requesting a review == Hello @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]], I'm new to Wikinews and have been looking for someone to review my first article, submitted on Saturday [[Three world records surprisingly set at the 2024 USA Indoor Track and Field Championships|here]]. Unfortunately there are few active reviewers, so I am trying to reach out to see if it can be reviewed before it goes stale and gets deleted. I'm interested in sticking around and contributing more, so I would be happy to review one of your future articles in return if I can become a reviewer in the coming months. If you aren't available, I was wondering you could approve [[Wikinews:Flagged revisions/Requests for permissions/Asheiou|Asheiou's RfP]] so that they might be able to review it? Thank you, --[[User:Habst|Habst]] ([[User talk:Habst|talk]]) 19:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC) == LTA == Hi. It's been asked at AAA that a certain LTA be CUed to impose a rangeblock or have a filter configured to prevent their actions. Pretty much every day, they create a new account &mdash; although I just now saw them editing as an IP [[Special:Contributions/168.9.212.208|here]] &mdash; and begin harassing users on their talk pages and on [[Talk:National Rugby League Women in League Round celebrates sons|this article talk page]]. Notably, these are the same few strings of text every time. Could you, when you have time, look into this? I ask since you're the more active CU. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 17:07, 20 March 2024 (UTC) :{{ping|Heavy Water}} looks like /24 didnt give anything useful. Could you share diffs of their abuse ptterna for the filter? Also; maybe a global crat mightbe able to tackle that too? I have blocked this IP for now.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 04:54, 24 March 2024 (UTC) ::These are the typical signatures I've seen: [[Special:Diff/4773126]], [[Special:Diff/4772138]], [[Special:Diff/4772093]]. Sometimes I've seen "You deserve to fucking die faggot" as a variation on the second one. Often they'll also request adminship, like [[Special:Diff/4773127|here]]. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 04:38, 28 March 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] I believe this is the [[meta:User:Leonidlednev/LTAs/ACV|Australian childish vandal]]. Since their IP range changes a lot, a range block would be considered ineffective. Page protection would be a better option though. However, recently they deliberately trigger the edit filter so their accounts would get blocked automatically anyway. [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:3FA3:8020:FC39:D0A0:DA2:93D2|2600:1700:3FA3:8020:FC39:D0A0:DA2:93D2]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:3FA3:8020:FC39:D0A0:DA2:93D2|talk]]) 02:56, 21 April 2024 (UTC) == [[Ramkripalyadavg]] == Hello, can you delete the news article? The article was created by a user who spams across wikis. He has made articles on Indonesian Wikipedia, Cebuano Wikipedia, Esperanto Wikipedia, Catalan Wikipedia and others [[User:Badak Jawa|Badak Jawa]] ([[User talk:Badak Jawa|talk]]) 12:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC) :Wikidata items will not be deleted if the article on English Wikinews has not been deleted by one of the English Wikinews administrators [[User:Badak Jawa|Badak Jawa]] ([[User talk:Badak Jawa|talk]]) 12:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC) == I should know this...... == ....and am slightly embarrassed that I don't! But: What the heck is a CheckUser? What does the job actually entail?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC) == You have email == I just sent you an email via the "Email this user" function here at Wikinews. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 21:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC) == CU request == I have posted [[Wikinews:Requests_for_CheckUser#Suspected_lock_evasion|a new request for CheckUser]]. Thanks, [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[:Category:Michael.C.Wright_(Wikinewsie)|Published]]}) 14:12, 16 May 2024 (UTC) == Accredited reporters == Hello. Hope you're well. Just added User:Asheiou to [[:Wikinews:Credential verification]]. How do we generate the reporter ID? Cheers. ['''[[:User:Cromium|₂₄Cr]]''']['''[[:User talk:Cromium|talk]]'''] 23:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC) :[https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/en.wikinews.org/Asheiou X's tools] is what I have been using. It should be "2,863,687". {{ping|Asheiou}}. {{unsigned|Acagastya|06:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)}} ::@[[User:Cromium|Cromium]] ^^ [[User:Asheiou|A.S. Thawley]] ([[User talk:Asheiou|talk]]) ([https://asheiou.uk/calendar calendar]) 21:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC) == Wikinewsie email account == We tried to deal with this last Summer, but the convo sort of fell apart. I need to access my Wikinewsie email account. I have lost my password, so I need a fresh re-set. Can you shoot that over to my yahoo email, please?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] I am in office, atm. If you have the SSH access, can you change the UNIX pass for bddpaux's reporter mail, and send that to them. @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] once you have received it, you will have to reset it via mail.wn-reporters.org. {{unsigned|Acagastya|06:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)}} ::Ok, thanks..... should I look for that notice in my Yahoo email account??--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 19:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC) :::This is still a problem. Can you take some action, please?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC) ::::While we're on the subject, I think my wn-reporters account never did get added to scoop. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 05:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC) :::::Ping {{ping|Gryllida}} again to look at this. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 05:46, 9 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::I noted elsewhere I lost ssh access. I provided Acagastya with my current ssh pubkey on August 29 and he did not add it to my account yet still. (I also do not have access to the email currently for months now.) ::::::The causes involved one hardware failure and my absent backups for ssh pubkeys. I will try to improve on this after regaining the access. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC) ::::::I will do it tonight along with MCW's mail.<br> [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 10:10, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :::::::(@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] already got password reset for his wn-reporters account. I sent him an email. I am awaiting his reply confirming he was able to log in.) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:01, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :I have changed my email. It appears things aren't flowing, however.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:45, 16 September 2024 (UTC) ::Please clarify? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:06, 16 September 2024 (UTC) ::I am happy to '''connect with you with screen sharing''', see https://jitsi.member.fsf.org/gryllidawn2024 but I will need your note first, so I can go to a device with audio. Or email me '''a screenshot of error message'''? Or write text of error here. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC) :::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC) == Help == Hi Hope you are doing well. Here are submitted for peer review: * [[Photo exhibition “Ethnic features of the world people” took place in the Crimean capital]] * [[On the campaign trail in the USA, June 2024]] *[["Machu Picchu, and not only...", a new photo exhibition by Viktor Pinchuk was held in Crimea]] Could you please review? Even a little edit or just one review would help a lot. (I don't require a commitment to review every day from now on.) Would you like to get notified of new drafts submitted for review? If so, please tell me which topics (or any topic) and where (email, wiki messages, push notification on smart phone, notification in wiki Notifications, or somewhere else). Would you find a [[WN:RNA]] page for reviewers useful, it would be similar to [[WN:AAA]] but intended for reviewers to discuss reviewing and related software. Would you be interested other communications off-wiki to create audio or video contact with other reviewers? I think this online gathering could be an essential part to deduce how to make article authoring and review easier. It could be just 30 minutes a month, and you don't have to participate every time. I would write a meeting minutes note after each session and publish it on-wiki if desired. Thanks! Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:22, 25 August 2024 (UTC) == Still wondering........ == @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]] I still need access/log-in to my Wikinewsie email account, please.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:13, 9 September 2024 (UTC) :Hi, {{ping|Gryllida}} should be able to assist you with password reset. [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 06:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC) ::Yup I sent you an email to your personal account, Bddpaux [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:25, 11 September 2024 (UTC) @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] Please see my remarks below. There was a web mail situation way back (which filled me with joy)... not sure if that situation has indigestion right now or what.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 23:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC) == Well........ == This appears to be live: wn-reporters.org Great. Good. Super. And, if I'm literate, it appears that what Grylidda did functioned to help me change my password -- sort of, I think, '''maybe''' -- however, the webmail seems to be down (I think). I don't swim in the world of email 'clients'...sorry. There is email and ''not'' email in my world. I really need to see/get/read things that flow via Scoop. Maybe I need some help, in the way one helps a German Shepherd........--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 23:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] what is your Operating System? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :(Mac or Windows or Linux?) [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 23:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC) :Install {{W|Thunderbird}}, it has a very easy wizard to add a new account. It will ask for your full name, email (paul[[File:At sign.svg|15px|@|link=]]wn-reporters.org), and password - and I hope it will do everything else for you. Please let me know how it goes? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:18, 16 September 2024 (UTC) ::Windows--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) == How........ == is Me Da Wikipedian still able to post on this project if they received an indef. block?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 00:17, 16 September 2024 (UTC) :Only at their personal talk page, currently. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 00:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC) :@[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]] and @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] do you think they still need talk page access or does it need to be revoked? Revoking talk page access is an option if this is needed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:14, 16 September 2024 (UTC) ::I don't know. Let me think about it a bit. It was just such a BIZARRE thing to do. --[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:41, 20 September 2024 (UTC) :::@[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] Their talk page has already been revoked after a final warning by @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]. Nothing more to do here. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 05:13, 21 September 2024 (UTC) == Review Help Needed - Update 1 (April 15, 2025) == Hello! This is Gryllida. I am one of the reviewers at Wikinews. I'm contacting you to request assistance with the review queue. Here is my understanding of the articles which are in the review queue now: {| class="wikitable" ! Event Date !! Link !Did I edit substantially? |- | April 6 Sunday || * [[Deadly attack on gold miners in Papua leaves multiple casualties and sparks security response]] | |- |April 9 Wednesday | * [[Prison confession and police interrogation video of Delphi bridge murderer made public for first time]] | |- |April 9 Wednesday | * [[Helicopter crash in South Africa blamed on 'unsecured' penguin]] | |- |April 10 Thursday | * [[Authorities identify Legionnaires' disease outbreak in Sydney CBD, Australia]] |YES |- |April 10 Thursday | * [[US Health Secretary vows to determine cause of autism by September]] |YES |- |April 12 Saturday | * [[Nuclear negotiations between US and Iran commence in Muscat, Oman]] | |- |April 13 Sunday | * [[Nobel laureate writer from Peru, Vargas Llosa dies]] | |- |April 14 Monday | * [[President Bukele says he will not return wrongly deported U.S. man, confounding U.S. Supreme Court order]] | |- |April 14 Monday | * [[Pop singer Katy Perry safely returns to Earth from outer space]] | |} Suggested action: * Start to review from the top of the list. * As the list may be out of date, please check the '''[[WN:Newsroom]]''' at your earliest convenience. I'm planning to send this reminder twice a week. To unsubscribe, please visit [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] and inquire at the talk page. '''If you wish, I can narrow it down to only notify you of new stories in your preferred region or topic. Please let me know if you are interested in this option.''' Please let me know if you require assistance or would like to connect with me to do a few reviews together before you proceed to do them fully on your own. Many thanks for your time. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida]] 11:44, 15 April 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Gryllida@enwikinews using the list at https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review&oldid=4849846 --> == Review Help Needed - Update 2 (April 21, 2025) - 17 articles awaiting review == Hello! :-) This is Gryllida. I am one of the reviewers at Wikinews. I'm contacting you to request your assistance with the review queue. Here is my understanding of the articles which are in the review queue now: {| class="wikitable" |+ Caption ! Event Date !! Link !Did I edit substantially? |- |April 9 Wednesday | * [[Prison confession and police interrogation video of Delphi bridge murderer made public for first time]] | |- |April 10 Thursday | * [[US Health Secretary vows to determine cause of autism by September]] |YES |- | |[[Suspect taken into custody and charged after Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro is forced to evacuate gubernatorial mansion with family following suspected arson attack]] | |- |April 12 Saturday |[[Nuclear negotiations between US and Iran commence in Muscat, Oman]] | |- | |[[Weezer performs at Coachella music festival with bassist Scott Shriner four days after his wife was shot by Los Angeles police, charged with attempted murder]] | |- |April 13 Sunday |[[Sumy, Ukraine hit with two missiles by Russia]] | |- |April 14 Monday | * [[President Bukele says he will not return wrongly deported U.S. man, confounding U.S. Supreme Court order]] | |- |April 14 Monday |[[Pop singer Katy Perry safely returns to Earth from outer space]] | |- | |[[Thousands hospitalised in Iraq due to sandstorm]] | |- | |[[Teen's murder of both parents was part of larger plot to assassinate Donald Trump and overthrow US government, newly-released FBI affidavit says]] [[Teen's murder of both parents was part of larger plot to assassinate Donald Trump and overthrow US government, newly-released FBI affidavit says|(Date TBC)]] | |- |April 15 Tuesday |[[New rape and sexual assault charges trial for Harvey Weinstein in Manhattan]] | |- | |[[Protester tasered and arrested at town hall hosted by US Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene]] | |- | |[[Several suspects dead in South Africa after shootout results in the rescue of abducted US pastor]] | |- | |[[16 year old Torquay boy arrested after stealing Lexus in Exeter]] | |- | | | |- |April 16 Wednesday |[[Rwandan government releases Integrated Household Living Conditions Survey]] | |- | |[[German prosecutors charge doctor with murder of over a dozen patients via anaesthetic drugs, arson]] [[German prosecutors charge doctor with murder of over a dozen patients via anaesthetic drugs, arson|Date TBC]] | |- |April 17 Thursday |[[Four dead in cable car crash in area south of Naples]] | |- |April 18 Friday |[[Ryan Gosling cast in upcoming Star Wars film]] | |- | |[[Cincinnati Reds win against Baltimore Orioles]] | |- | | | |} Suggested action: * Start to review, perhaps from the top of the list. * Please, aim to review at least one article a fortnight, if able. We currently have less than 50% activity among reviewers, with many '''not having made an edit within last two years'''. If there is something that can help you with coming back, please let me know. I'm happy to chat with you at IRC, wiki, audio, or any preferred platform and do several reviews together. If there is some other motivator, I'm eager to know what it is and get it done as soon as possible. * As the list may be out of date, please check the '''[[WN:Newsroom]]''' at your earliest convenience. I'm planning to send this reminder twice a week. To unsubscribe, please visit [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] and inquire at the talk page. '''If you wish, I can narrow it down to only notify you of new stories in your preferred region or topic. Please let me know if you are interested in this option.''' Please let me know if you require assistance or would like to connect with me to do a few reviews together before you proceed to do them fully on your own. Many thanks for your time. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:23, 20 April 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Gryllida@enwikinews using the list at https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review&oldid=4849962 --> == Welcome back == [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 16:10, 21 April 2025 (UTC) == Review Help Requested - Update 3 (April 26, 2025) - 2 articles awaiting review == Hello :-) This is Gryllida. I am one of the reviewers at Wikinews. I'm contacting you to request your assistance with the review queue. Here is my understanding of the articles which are in the review queue now: * [[Tesla reports 71% profit loss in 25Q1 vs 24Q1, Elon Musk to reduce government work commitment]] TUESDAY April 22 (Gryllida did a major edit, and cannot review) - '''4 days ago''' * [[Lion mauls, kills teenage girl in Kenya]] SATURDAY April 19 - '''7 days ago''' LAST DAY TO REVIEW IS TODAY Please review urgently. As the list may be out of date, please check the '''[[WN:Newsroom]]''' at your earliest convenience. You're welcome to join [[WN:IRC|the live chat]] for real time collaboration. (I'm planning to send this reminder approximately twice a week. To unsubscribe, please visit [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] and inquire at the talk page. '''If you wish, I can narrow it down to only notify you of new stories in your preferred region or topic. Please let me know if you are interested in this option.''') Please let me know if you require assistance or would like to connect with me to do a few reviews together before you proceed to do them fully on your own. Many thanks for your time. Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:29, 25 April 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Gryllida@enwikinews using the list at https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review&oldid=4849962 --> == Review Help Requested - Update 4 (May 24, 2025) - 18 articles awaiting review == Hello, legendary Wikinews Reviewer :-) Please review any of the below now. This is a sortable table. Please check [[Wikinews:Newsroom]] for the latest revision. {| class="wikitable sortable" |+ ! ! ! ! |- |[[Rock musician, Tommy Lee and wife split after 6 years of marriage]] |16?? | | |- |[[Orleans Parish facility maintenance worker charged with allegedly helping inmates escape prison]] |20 | | |- |[[Wikipedia administrators are being arrested in Belarus]] |17 |original reporting! | |- |[[Australian Nationals leave Coalition with Liberal Party]] |20 | | |- |[[Ukrainian ex-top official shot dead outside Madrid school]] |21 | | |- |[[Trump claims there is a 'genocide' in South Africa, but white Afrikaner farmers dispute that assertion]] |21 | | |- |[[Suicide bomber attacks Mogadishu military base]] |18 |7 days ago! | |- |[[Explosion near reproductive health facility in Palm Springs, California]] |17 |8 days ago! | |- |[[Interpol facilitates arrest of Peruvian organised crime suspect in Medellin, Colombia]] |15 |10 days ago! | |- |[[Shooting at CIA headquarters in Virginia]] |22 | | |- |[[End confirmed for the American penny]] |22 | | |- |[[Inaugural Khelo India Beach Games concludes early]] |23 | | |- |[[GeoGuessr cancels participation in Esports World Cup in response to controversy over Saudi Arabia hosting the event]] |22nd May |short article easy? | |- |[[Sound Talent Group employees among casualties in private plane crash at San Diego, California]] |22 | | |- |[[Nepal Supreme Court upholds custody of Rabi Lamichhane in cooperative fraud case]] |23 | | |- |[[Police activity on Interstate 80 in Berkeley near University Avenue]] |23 | | |- |[[High-Speed RV Chase Ends in Fatal Crash – Albuquerque]] |18 | | |- |[[Donald Trump wants Golden Dome missile defense system]] |20 | | |} You're welcome to join [[WN:IRC|the live chat]] for real time collaboration. To unsubscribe, see [[User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review]] or reply to this message and ping Gryllida. Regards, --[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC) <!-- Message sent by User:Gryllida@enwikinews using the list at https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gryllida/Notifications/New/Review&oldid=4849962 --> == Wikinews closure formally recommended == The Task Force has released a report that formally recommends closing Wikinews. The public consultation is here: [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:57, 26 June 2025 (UTC) : A community response to the Task Force is underway and I believe it's critical that we show clear support from contributors, reviewers, and administrators if we want Wikinews to remain open. : If you believe Wikinews still has potential for revitalization and should remain active, I ask that you: : :* Review and help improve the draft community response, and/or :* Add your endorsement once you're comfortable with the language : : The goal is to finalize the draft before the [[m:Event:Community_consultation_on_Wikispore/Wikinews,_call_1|July 16 Task Force call]], so our response is ready for consideration. : You can find the draft here:<br>👉 [[Wikinews:Response to Proposal for Closing Wikinews]] : Thanks for considering.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:32, 11 July 2025 (UTC) == Haven't seen your around here in a bit..... == You OK these days?--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 21:29, 3 November 2025 (UTC) == CU Request emailed == I have emailed a CU request to both you and [[User:Cromium|Cromium]]. I have also posted the request here: [[Wikinews:Requests for CheckUser#New request sent via email]][[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:25, 31 December 2025 (UTC) : You can disregard this request. I misinterpreted the registered account's actions. Sorry for the confusion.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 16:21, 31 December 2025 (UTC) == [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition|NEWS STREAK idea proposal]] == Hi Acagastya, [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition|NEWS STREAK idea proposal]] would you like to sign up? It hasn't started yet, but I am collecting interest, and you can '''add your nick to the page'''. If you're not doing content edits frequently you could choose another streak period for your news content participation - for example, once each two months rather than once each two weeks. ---- It is being proposed to setup [[:w:streak]] goals over a 12 week period: for example, * "write one story each two weeks, and [[:wikt:babysit|babysit]] it until it is published" This could be either authoring a completely new article or this could be taking over someone else's article and doing focused editing on it with active collaboration with others until it is published. It is like a [[:wikt:day shift|day shift]] as you are expected to remain available '[[:wikt:on call|on call]]' to address concerns from another user or reviewer. The aim of this is to build a habit of participation with [[:wikt:outburst|outburst]]s of eyeballing the page to collaborate with others -- but not every day, to have breaks and reduce [[:wikt:burnout|burnout]]. Could you please check out at '''[[Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals#Streak_themed_competition_proposal|this section]]''' and let me know what you think? Parameters are subject to discussion e.g. * 'once every two weeks' or 'once a week' or 'once a month' * should this be same for all or each person decides for themselves * how long total comp running for, 12 weeks or 24 weeks or some other time * some other ideas how to modify this i would appreciate if you could reply '''by end of this week''', it would be helpful please note if you are interested you may signup in [[Wikinews:2026 streak competition]] at page bottom and you will be notified at your talk page if there are any updates or progress of this idea thanks a lot ---- Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 01:24, 23 February 2026 (UTC) == formatting error == Just FYI your helpful comment has some type of (I think) formatting error.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy&curid=30609&diff=4994387&oldid=4994379] ... [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:53, 7 March 2026 (UTC) == Could you review an article? == {{ping|Acagastya}}: At [[Talk:Wikinews closes after 21 years]] you mentioned that you would keep an eye on the article so it could be published on May 3. Are you available to review the article? [[User:Michael.C.Wright]] said [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews_closes_after_21_years&diff=prev&oldid=5023155 here] that he is very busy and can't guarantee that he will have time to review it. Thanks! -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 01:17, 1 May 2026 (UTC) 47w3dzgd43wek61pt9mdgysbrdcgz71 6 2848729 5023534 4562989 2026-05-01T09:17:05Z Star walker 2869397 now commons 5023534 wikitext text/x-wiki == {{int:filedesc}} == {{Image info |Description = Lunar Eclipse 2018. 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Pinchuk for Wikinews.gif|thumb|left|180px|Author's logo]] On May 17, ''Russian Wikinews'' attended one of the latest cultural events in Crimea. [[Museum of Simferopol History|The Museum of Simferopol History]], located on {{w|Alexander Pushkin }} Street in the center of the [[Simferopol|Crimean capital]], has opened a new exhibition, unique of its kind. The exhibition of CDs of ethnic music of the peoples of the world called {{Translation note|''Aboriginal melodies and songs''|ru|Russian language|''Туземные мелодии и песни''}}; includes about one hundred factory-made exhibits from the personal collection of Simferopol [[philophony|philophonist]] &mdash; collector of musical recordings &mdash; and traveler [[Viktor Pinchuk]]. Most publications are difficult to buy in the {{w|Russian Federation}} and {{w|Europe}}. Each disc was released in the artist's country of residence: there are no {{w|Western world|Western}} reissues or computer copies in the selection. "All the specimens presented in the museum were brought by me from travels and expeditions," explained the creator of the exhibition and added, with disappointment, that many of the countries visited are quite poor, and therefore do not have the ability to produce CDs. About a dozen listeners were present at the opening of the exhibition, where only half of the collection was presented. The exhibition will last two weeks, which will allow not only city residents, but also visitors to get acquainted with it. <gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="300" style="margin:auto"> Aboriginal melodies and songs (poster).jpg| A poster for the exhibition. Музей истории города Симферополя.jpg | Entrance to the museum Благодарность (Выставка CD, 2024).jpg|''The Museum of Simferopol history gratitude to Viktor Pinchuk, the author of the project “Aboriginal melodies and songs” (Exhibition of CDs of ethnic music of the peoples of the world), implemented as part of the worldwide event “Night of Museums” for providing material from his personal collection, as well as his feasible contribution to ethnography and popularization of philophony as a type of collecting.'' </gallery> <gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200" style="margin:auto"> Aboriginal Music CD Exhibition (1).jpg|Opening remarks by the museum director Aboriginal Music CD Exhibition (6).jpg|Exhibition showcase showing part of the collection Aboriginal Music CD Exhibition (5).jpg|Exhibition visitors </gallery> <gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200" style="margin:auto"> Music shop in Kabul.webm|thumbtime=01| Music shop in {{w|Kabul}}, where CDs were purchased for the collection </gallery> == Related news == *{{wikinews|Citizen journalist, Viktor Pinchuk — gives travel presentation in Sevastapol|April 23, 2024}} == Sister links == * [[c:Category:Routes of expeditions & travels of the Russian traveler Viktor Pinchuk (maps)|Routes of expeditions & travels of the Russian traveler Viktor Pinchuk (maps)]] * [[c:File:Receipt from the store (PNG).jpg| Cash receipt]] from the store in {{w|Lae|Lae}}, {{w|Papua New Guinea}} (where one of the CDs was purchased). * [[c:File:Удостоверение филофониста.jpg |Philophonist (recording collector) membership ID card]] (document). == Sources == {{translated Wikinews|Выставка CD этнической музыки народов мира открылась в Крыму|ru|language=Russian}} {{original}} *{{source |url = https://spb.zeroevent.ru/event/7519795?cls=1&from=modal |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|Выставка CD этнической музыки народов мира|Exhibition of CDs of ethnic music of the peoples of the world}} |author = |pub = Zero Event |date = May 18, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://events.nethouse.ru/smf/99758/ |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|ТУЗЕМНЫЕ МЕЛОДИИ И ПЕСНИ|ABORIGINAL MELODIES AND SONGS}} |author = |pub = NetHouse |lang = ru |date = May 18, 2024 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20240517202622/https://events.nethouse.ru/smf/99758/ |brokenURL = true }} *{{source |url = https://dzen.ru/a/Zj-eR8nXXUSKhGkt |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|Выставка CD этномузыки народов мира откроется в Симферополе|An exhibition of CDs of ethnomusic from the peoples of the world will open in Simferopol}} |author = |pub = Dzen |lang = ru |date = May 18, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://pabliko.ru/@ack/vystavka_cd_muzykalnogo_folklora_ekzoticheskih_stran_otkroetsja_v_simferopole-275791/ |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|Выставка CD музыкального фольклора экзотических стран откроется в Симферополе|An exhibition of CDs of musical folklore from exotic countries will open in Simferopol}} |author = |pub = Pabliko |lang = ru |date = May 18, 2024 |archiveurl = |brokenURL = true }} *{{source |url = https://afisha82.ru/kategorii/besplatnye/1551-vystavka-cd-etnicheskoj-muzyki-narodov-mira |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|Выставка CD этнической музыки народов мира|Exhibition of CDs of ethnic music of the peoples of the world}} |author = |pub = Afisha82 |lang = ru |date = May 18, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.culture.ru/events/4590001/akciya-noch-muzeev |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|Акция «Ночь музеев»|Promotion “Night of Museums”}} |author = |pub = Culture.ru |lang = ru |date = May 26, 2024 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20241127111514/https://www.culture.ru/events/4590001/akciya-noch-muzeev |brokenURL = true }} *{{source |url = https://afisha7.ru/simferopol/vystavki/5936af |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|Туземные мелодии и песни, выставка CD этнической музыки народов мира|Native melodies and songs, CD exhibition of ethnic music from around the world}} |author = |pub = Afisha7 |lang = ru |date = May 26, 2024 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20240517202615/https://afisha7.ru/simferopol/vystavki/5936af |brokenURL = true }} *{{source |url = https://novosti-i-sobytiya.timepad.ru/event/2880663/ |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|"Туземные мелодии и песни", выставка CD этнической музыки народов мира|"Native Melodies and Songs", an exhibition of CDs of ethnic music of the peoples of the world}} |author = |pub = Timepad |lang = ru |date = May 26, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://sevpoisk.ru/simferopol/378476137/ |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|Выставка CD этнической музыки из коллекции путешественника откроется в Крыму|An exhibition of ethnic music CDs from the traveler's collection will open in Crimea}} |author = |pub = Sevpoisk |lang = ru |date = May 26, 2024 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20240517202615/https://sevpoisk.ru/simferopol/378476137/ |brokenURL = true }} *{{source |url = https://s30674597194.mirtesen.ru/blog/43368784267/Vyistavka-CD-etnicheskoy-muzyiki-narodov-mira-otkroetsya-v-simfe?utm_referrer=mirtesen.ru |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|Выставка CD этнической музыки народов мира откроется в симферопольском музее|An exhibition of CDs of ethnic music of the peoples of the world will open in the Simferopol Museum}} |author = |pub = Mirtesen |lang = ru |date = May 26, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://visitsimferopol.ru/know/events/приглашаем-в-музей-истории-симферопо/ |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|ПРИГЛАШАЕМ В МУЗЕЙ ИСТОРИИ СИМФЕРОПОЛЯ НА ВЫСТАВКУ ЭТНИЧЕСКОЙ МУЗЫКИ НАРОДОВ МИРА|WE INVITE YOU TO THE MUSEUM OF THE HISTORY OF SIMFEROPOL TO THE EXHIBITION OF ETHNIC MUSIC OF THE PEOPLES OF THE WORLD}} |author = |pub = Visitsimferopol |lang = ru |date = May 26, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://russia24.pro/simferopol/379026703/ |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|Коллекция CD этномузыки экзотических стран представлена на открытии выставки в Симферополе|A collection of CDs of ethnomusic from exotic countries was presented at the opening of the exhibition in Simferopol}} |author = |pub = Russia24 |lang = ru |date = May 26, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://museum-of-simferopol-history.ru/акция-ночь-музеев-2/ |title = {{Translated quote|ru|Russian language|17 мая 2024 года в Музее истории города Симферополя прошла акция «Ночь музеев»|On May 17, 2024, the “Night of Museums” event was held at the Museum of the History of the City of Simferopol}} |author = |pub = Museum of Simferopol History |lang = ru |date = May 26, 2024 |archiveurl = }} *{{source |url = https://www.hashtap.com/@news.google/a-collection-of-cds-of-ethnomusic-from-exotic-countries-was-presented-at-the-opening-of-the-exhibition-in-simferopol-OKwV5z26K_Mx |title = A collection of CDs of ethnomusic from exotic countries was presented at the opening of the exhibition in Simferopol |author = |pub = Hashtap |lang = en |date = May 26, 2024 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20240518143552/https://www.hashtap.com/@news.google/a-collection-of-cds-of-ethnomusic-from-exotic-countries-was-presented-at-the-opening-of-the-exhibition-in-simferopol-OKwV5z26K_Mx |brokenURL = true }} {{Archived}} [[Category:Europe]] [[Category:Russia]] [[Category:Crimea]] [[Category:Simferopol]] [[Category:Culture and entertainment]] [[Category:Tourism]] [[Category:Philophony]] [[Category:Museums]] [[Category:Museum of Simferopol History]] [[Category:Iryna Vdovychenko]] [[Category:Photo essays]] [[Category:Original reporting]] [[Category:Viktor Pinchuk (1969)]] [[Category:Collecting]] [[Category:Exhibitions]] [[Category:Archived-bot]] {{Published}} jlacfuyoqe1o3l8pwxjp20429s40q2w 3 3013794 5023300 4854304 2026-05-01T02:25:08Z Mfield 89407 Mfield moved page [[User 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I created the following article which was published: *[["One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture]] I can be reached on Wikipedia at [[w:User talk:Metropolitan90]]. 12qtquluyrs9q0lno63lu7wr65197cs 3 3044954 5023203 4928715 2026-04-30T17:00:31Z Mfield 89407 Mfield moved page [[User talk:Barkcyclopedia.pittanica]] to [[User talk:CryingBluff]]: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Barkcyclopedia.pittanica|Barkcyclopedia.pittanica]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/CryingBluff|CryingBluff]]" 4928715 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Barkcyclopedia.pittanica}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 01:17, 18 November 2025 (UTC) sbn0aqtnhpiyjblkjpbyuygnbhrjgyl 102 3048050 5023276 4939151 2026-05-01T00:41:11Z GoatLord234 2865385 /* There's a typo */ new section 5023276 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Commentary/LQT}} <!-- Leave this line alone. Add comments below. --> == Comments from feedback form - "this news really shocked me. i..." == <!-- Submitted from ReaderFeedback form via [[mediawiki:Gadget-Feedbackhack.js]] --> this news really shocked me. it is a bad news. [[Special:Contributions/49.244.140.242|49.244.140.242]] ([[User talk:49.244.140.242|talk]]) 00:15, 26 September 2011 (UTC) == There's a typo == "on person" [[User:GoatLord234|GoatLord234]] ([[User talk:GoatLord234|talk]]) 00:41, 1 May 2026 (UTC) 1znu7o0koz1wghczlkev50i5y4wqc58 5 3048959 5023312 5007455 2026-05-01T03:25:34Z Codename Noreste 2865115 /* 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. */ + 5023312 wikitext text/x-wiki <center> <big> Please share your opinion regarding the migration on Meta at [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. </big> </center> = 1. Name and geographical location of new hosting. = I have no idea about this, please advise. How can this be done when half of users have slow internet and are geographically dispersed. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :A Meta page has been created for discussion about the migration. Please share your votes and comments there. [[meta:Migration of Wikinews and future hosts]]. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:57, 31 March 2026 (UTC) === Miraheze === :Maybe we could consider migrating to https://miraheze.org/. Their Meta page is here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta. :They provide free hosting, although I am not sure whether we would need to purchase our own domain name. They also do not run advertisements and operate entirely on donations. :However, a major clarification is required: If Wikinews is closed, will the WMF also relinquish copyright to the name 'Wikinews' and its logo? If not, I'm not sure how we could proceed. Perhaps someone with legal knowledge, or someone from the WMF, could advise on this? -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:13, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::Is it easy to install our own mediawiki extensions there. Do they provide shell access. The name question is in section 5 below. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, almost all MediaWiki extensions are available there. There are also users with strong MediaWiki knowledge who can help us move forward technically. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: "almost all MediaWiki extensions" is an exaggeration. But it is true that Miraheze is significantly more willing to install new extensions than Wikimedia is: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions is an incomplete list. Miraheze, while they won't provide you shell access, will let you self-service many things that require shell access on Wikimedia, such as config changes - they have a fairly flexible https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki interface. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:53, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::::True. What I mean is at least enough to support Wikinews or such that Wikinews is going to need. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 14:18, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Miraheze might be our last good option just saying. @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:55, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Also, everyone, the WMF board has '''not yet''' made a final decision, and the current community opinion is mostly in our favor, so please don't give up participating in various discussions on metawiki. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 01:02, 1 December 2025 (UTC) ::::They will close WikiNews tomorrow. All pages will be read-only. I can register the wiki at https://wikinews.miraheze.org, if you would like. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:24, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::::To reiterate NotAracham’s comment in this thread, while Miraheze is very willing to provide hosting to Wikinews, we ask that the actual wiki request be submitted by a bureaucrat (or representative of WikiNYC if the WN community choses to pursue an arrangement with them). With all due respect, for the sake of clarify and not making things more confusing for the Wikinews community, we won’t be accepting one-off requests by users that don’t have the backing of the community’s consensus. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 21:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::I personally oppose the usage of Miraheze because it contains trackers that are hard for users to disable. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 16:04, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::Hi @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]], what are they tracking and how does this work? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:52, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::I forget the exact details because I wrote that message nearly 5 months ago, but I think that it's some sort of analytics ping that you need to block at the browser or DNS level. [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 12:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::::We collect minimal aggregate tracking data through cookies for cloudflare + matomo analytics as well as session persistence, @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] would be better positioned to answer this. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy Privacy Policy] also covers our 'when and how' for usage of this data. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::Now I wonder whether the whole Wikinews community will be able to migrate safely as a whole, or whether a ‘big split’ might happen due to differences like this. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:39, 7 April 2026 (UTC) ::If all other measures fail... we might have to try [[w:Fandom (website)|Fandom]]. [[User:SeaDragon1|SeaDragon1]] ([[User talk:SeaDragon1|talk]]) 19:59, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], Wikimedia is hosted in the US due to favorable freedom of speech and copyright laws. A [[w:Content delivery network]] can improve performance around the world, though that doesn't accelerate dynamic content served to users who are logged in. See [[m:Wikimedia servers]] for example.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267938397:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:25, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> Hi folks, this is NotAracham, Director of Trust & Safety at Miraheze. We've reviewed internally and are confident that we will be able to offer hosting (from both a policy and technical standpoint) should you choose to select us once things are worked out with the WMF. I and my colleagues are happy to answer any questions the WikiNews community might have towards reaching a decision. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :You are a life saver thank you @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:16, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I think we should wait until the final decision of the Board, and if it ultimately is about closing, then I have no objection to migrate. This would be the best second possibility after Wikinews is not getting closed. Thank you for your help. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 19:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Agreed, Miraheze can save us for backup plan @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:26, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :I'm an Infrastructure engineer for Miraheze and am also watching this page. You can also find me on Libera.Chat (in both #wikinews and #miraheze) or Discord if you have questions. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], it would probably be a good idea to clarify whether you are talking about English Wikinews or all Wikinews language variants. Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with [[:w:en:Russian web brigades]] ?<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764272830948:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 19:47, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Agreed, we need to focus on English Wikinews. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:59, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Technically, I don't think any of them would be an issue. From a counter vandalism perspective, we would look to how we could support any wiki and make sure you have the tools available that you need. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 20:03, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::I'll defer to my tech colleagues on our technical capacity to host, though the general opinion seems that it would be well within possibility to host the full spectrum of languages if they choose to move to our service. Regarding the counter-vandalism aspect, our service uses Cloudflare (for both default and custom domains) to mitigate DDoS attempts, which has proven unfortunately necessary with some past antagonists. While we have an existing global CVT team to handle the more routine on-wiki trouble, we only have so many members with limited time to offer. It sounds like the Russian wikinews is one of the rare scenarios where it'd be prudent to assign some members of their moderation team [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CheckUser#Permission delegated local CheckUser]. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 20:24, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], first let me declare that I don't know for sure how ruwikinews is doing currently. But you should be very careful before assigning CheckUser to anyone involved with Russian projects. The paper bear is certainly interested:<ul><li>[https://fortune.com/europe/2023/04/14/moscow-court-fines-wikipedia-refusing-remove-russia-language-article-invasion-ukraine/ Moscow court fines Wikipedia for refusing to remove a Russian-language article about the invasion of Ukraine]</li><li>[https://www.reuters.com/technology/russia-threatens-fine-wikipedia-if-it-doesnt-delete-false-information-2022-04-05/ Russia threatens to fine Wikipedia if it doesn't delete 'false information']</li><li>[https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/06/23/a89531 Russian Court Fines Wikipedia Operator Nearly $40K Over ‘P***philia Propaganda’]</li></ul>Just don't give CheckUser to the paper bear, as they could use it to prosecute dissenters. As for the current state of ruwikinews, some of the most recent articles:<ul><li>[[:n:ru:Необычный урок патриотизма провёл русский путешественник-экстремал, вернувшийся из Африки]] ([[:n:ru:Категория:Виктор Пинчук (1969)|author]] writing about himself)</li><li>[[:n:ru:В Крыму, расположенном недалеко от района боевых действий, прошла «Ночь искусств»]]: a Chinese Wikimedian, Sheminghui.WU, interviewing that user. Perhaps something is getting lost in translation, because this is the end of the last answer according to Google translate:</li></ul>{{q|1=From my personal observations, the majority of Crimean residents (myself included) are ethnic Russians. Therefore, there has generally always been a negative attitude toward the imposed "Ukrainianism" here.<br/>I'm not familiar with cultural life in eastern Ukraine or in the towns located along the front lines, but here in Crimea, everything is peaceful. Enemy drones are being shot down by professionally trained specialists.<br/>We will win!<br/>Hakuna matata!<br/>No pasaran!|4=Виктор Пинчук|5=[https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%92_%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%BC%D1%83,_%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BC_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%8B%D1%85_%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B9,_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BB%D0%B0_%C2%AB%D0%9D%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%8C_%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%C2%BB]}}<br/>derp I have to stop looking at this rabbit hole<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764284255586:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 22:57, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Ha, absolutely an area one could spend way too much time digging into, and a very fair point to bring up. Local checkuser has not been given out in the history of Miraheze, and would absolutely be a last resort. While it's a thing we'd ''consider'' if proven necessary, any grants here would have a much higher degree of scrutiny than standard cases given the well-documented hostility of the national actor in question. ::::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 23:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::As Russian Wikinews will also be closed, it will also need a new home. I will wait for their contributors to comment whether they want to do migration together and to the same host. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:04, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :::Correction: *may also be closed [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) ::"Also note that ruwikinews has on the order of 1000x more articles than most other language editions. Can Miraheze deal with w:en:Russian web brigades?" How do you link those two things? [[User:BilboBeggins|BilboBeggins]] ([[User talk:BilboBeggins|talk]]) 23:04, 7 April 2026 (UTC) :::Ruwikinews has 3x the number of content pages compared with the [https://communities.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_wikis_by_article_count largest Miraheze wikis]. If they don't prune any pages, the wiki will consume lots of storage space in the database, though I don't expect too much impact on server load since server load is dominated by web traffic after the initial CPU spike in import. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 01:25, 13 April 2026 (UTC) :Thanks @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]]] and @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] for following this page [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:05, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] Dear friend, will other language versions of Wikinews, especially ruwn and zhwn which have more views than enwn, can also be hosted? Thank you. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 02:48, 29 November 2025 (UTC) ::Yes, we are willing to provide hosting for all language flavors of wikinews should their communities choose to move to our service. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 18:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], thank you for your notes. :1. Do you have a comment on @[[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]]'s concern about trackers? :2. Could you confirm that you do not require content obligations in return, such as, censorship of content or necessitating to include your news on our site? :3. What features do you provide for multilingual content? Currently there are different sysops in each language edition of Wikinews, as they are separate wikis. :Apparently, move needs to happen before May 4 and [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard#Board_of_Trustees_Approves_Closure_of_Wikinews after that date content will be left read-only, here]. I asked whether Wikinews trademark can be used. :Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 09:56, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::4. In Miraheze can users insert Wikimedia Commons images into new pages? In Wikinews it is possible with same syntax as if it was a local image. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: Yes, it is possible to both upload local images and use files from Wikimedia Commons. --[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:07, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::::This is cool. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:08, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Cc @[[User:Pppery|Pppery]] thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:02, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::# I've asked Rhinos to weigh in on trackers, but generally we collect the minimum data required to operate our service. Information collected in this way is used as described in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy our privacy policy] and is not sent/resold to outside parties. If there are more specific concerns to be discussed, I defer to my tech colleague. ::# We do have some limits on what may be hosted on our service, outlined in [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy our content policy]. We also (as a non-profit) cannot host content specifically designed to achieve a political outcome, e.g. supporting a specific candidate or specific legislative action. Beyond these two items, we do not impose any further restrictions on your speech nor will we mandate that specific stories be written. However, it should be made clear, we cannot offer any form of legal cover should authored content result in legal action against the authors by a third party. ::# While we do have the Translate extension, the current structure is likely the cleanest way to continue operating. We do support interwiki/interlanguage linking as well, which can ease connection between versions. ::# Regarding licensing and/or permission for continued use of brand/trademark, that's something the WikiNews community will have to work out with the WMF, we do not negotiate in this way on behalf of our hosted projects. ::I think I've answered everything, but let me know if a question was missed. ::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:26, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Miraheze Tech here. To add to what NotAracham has said, we have [[miraheze:Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki|a multi-language guide]] which covers some of the options that are possible on Miraheze: ::# Separate wikis connected via interwiki language links. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are connected via interwiki language links by pointing interwiki links to the same wiki. ::# Use the same wiki for all languages. Pages are synced with the translate extension. ::# Separate wikis connected via wikibase. I am not aware of any wiki that uses this option, but we do have wikibase available with a few hundred wikis that enabled the extension (whether they use it extensively is another story). I believe this option is what Wikinews uses right now. If there is enough interest, I can see if it is possible to replicate the wikinews setup on Miraheze's wikibase install. ::[[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:36, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::As for trackers, wiki bureaucrats can grant the <code>noanalytics</code> right to everyone (<code>*</code>) with ManageWiki, which will exempt all users from our tracking software (Matomo). I tested it on [https://exttest.mirabeta.org/ Miraheze's extension testing wiki] and am no longer seeing Matomo-related requests for both logged-in and anonymous users. ::With that said, this will only happen on the local wiki. If the user clicks on a link to, for example, the Privacy Policy page which is hosted on Miraheze Meta, they will be subject to the tracker again since it is on a different wiki. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 23:17, 30 March 2026 (UTC) Question; would it be possible to mirrow this wiki, so when i make an edit here, it is also automatically made at Miraheze from my account; is it possible to allow users to login using OAuth so that they do not need to register a new account; what testing is required for a custom extension to be installed on site; where is it located geographically. Does it remain free of charge. how does this organization generate income. Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 05:10, 28 November 2025 (UTC) :# Going to consider this question moot as the WMF-hosted service will go read-only in near future. As mentioned elsewhere, we can assist with attributing edits to the MH-equivalent users following migration where there's interest in doing so. :# We utilize CentralAuth as our account infrastructure, users need only one account for any wiki hosted on our platform. Services can verify the MH account through OAuth as well. We do not, however, support OAuth for Wikimedia project accounts on our platform, a Miraheze account will need to be created. :# Custom extensions will need to go through our security review process, and will generally need to demonstrate some form of global usefulness to be considered for approval. :# We are based out of the United States of America and incorporated in the state of Idaho, the majority of our hardware infrastructure is located in the Salt lake City, Utah area. :# We are a 501(c)3 nonprofit charitable organization, we do not and will not charge for our service, the majority of our funds come from individual user donations. Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances are public information], as are our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget/2026 annual budgets]. :--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC) In my opinion, miraheze is the most viable path forwards for wikinews. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) IMO moving Wikinews to Miraheze is just swapping one centralized authority for another. You're not fixing the problem, you're relocating it. Instead of the Wikimedia Foundation, you end up under Miraheze's policies, infrastructure, and admins. Different host, same dependency. If Wikinews is supposed to be a truly independent, community-driven news platform, then it needs its own infrastructure and governance - not another host that can pull the plug or change the rules whenever it wants. We don't even know if Miraheze can reliably handle a project of this scale (enwikinews only? all active language versions?). What infrastructure do they actually have? What guarantees are there for long-term stability, performance, and uptime? Calling this a solution is just self-deception. [[User:BZPN|BZPN]] ([[User talk:BZPN|talk]]) 06:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :The existing Wikinews community lacks the capability to do better than Miraheze or even come close. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:16, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :Loyal opposition here. Sorry your project is closing, I hope you perhaps consider my suggestion to transition to a more news-magazine inspired format on whatever your new host is. But I agree with Bawolff. To quote the former administrator of Earth: May I remind you that the alternative, if it can be called that, is total extinction? [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 13:12, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I predict there will be a big split. The anti-Miraheze faction simply won’t migrate there and may propose another path forward. [[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 13:46, 7 April 2026 (UTC) No opinion on whether English (and others, except for ru) Wikinews should go to Miraheze, but certainly '''oppose migration of [[:ru:|ru.WN]] to Miraheze'''. Not exactly sure about conditions as of 2026, but the farm was long known to be dominated by English speakers and had zero representation of the Slavs in its establishment. Their staffers botched and failed import of Absurdopedia (the Russian Uncyclopedia), which eventually became self-hosted. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> had some ugly interactions with Mirahezeans, myself. Meanwhile it generally is a respectable farm and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hold specifically {{u|John F. Lewis}}, who made a good job, in respect. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:31, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :Ironic, given the controversies surrounding John (He has a history of abusing positions of trust and got himself office banned from all Wikimedia projects). Regardless, is there another serious offer on the table? Otherwise Miraheze wins by default. Like you've made some comments that imply you might be willing to offer hosting or at least work on this. Are you actually offering to host Wikinews? Does this offer come with strings or financial requirements? Unless other offers materialize with details, it kind of seems like the choice is Miraheze or nothing. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 05:14, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::What would the hardware requirements be for hosting WikiNews? Could the administrators WN provide some more specific information? [[User:Charmeleon69|Charmeleon69]] ([[User talk:Charmeleon69|talk]]) 06:53, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: Commented [[#hardware|here]] because this isn’t a proper thread. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) === WikiOasis === An alternative would be considering to switch to WikiOasis. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 03:25, 1 May 2026 (UTC) = 2. Volunteers willing to pay for new hosting. This can be from charities, Wikimedia Charters, or personal expenses. = I would volunteer towards hosting costs. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :This will not work in my opinion. After all, that's the approach taken for wn-reporters and email, and I think it's safe to say that it hasn't been successful. [[User:Leaderboard|Leaderboard]] ([[User talk:Leaderboard|talk]]) 16:32, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::The lowest cost I am aware of would be 25 USD per month, so 300 USD per year. Though it sounds like Miraheze maybe free and I know a few Wikipedians are on their board. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:51, 18 December 2025 (UTC) : If hosting is going to be paid for, I think a new, non-profit organization should be formed, to to handle funding and oversight. If hosting is paid for by one or more individuals who are not organized under a charter or governing structure, it creates obvious risks: lack of accountability, unclear ownership, and potential instability if those individuals step away or disagree. : Forming a new non-profit may be a wise choice even if free hosting is used.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 10:48, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::Based on the [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Public_consultation_about_Wikinews#c-Sj-20260401032800-Victoria-20260330090000 latest developments], it seems that Wikimedia New York City may take on the future stewardship of Wikinews. That would also mean it is managed by an organization and a non-profit. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:27, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ::: [[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] [[Wikinews talk:Migration#c-NotAracham-20260405165600-Sj-20260403011300|noted below]] {{tq|Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand.}} ::: That reduces immediate financial pressure on any new organization. It does not address the more fundamental issue. Without the structural oversight and constraints provided by the Wikimedia Foundation, I do not see a viable path forward for en.WN. In its current state, the project has not demonstrated the capacity for consistent and productive self-regulation. ::: If Wikimedia NYC is to assume “stewardship” of Wikinews, that role needs to be clearly defined before any decision to migrate. Specifically, the scope of its authority, responsibilities, and limits should be made explicit to the community. It is also unclear how this arrangement would differ in practice from the current relationship with the Wikimedia Foundation, given that Wikimedia NYC is an affiliated chapter.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:45, 6 April 2026 (UTC) = 3. Volunteers willing to do budgeting and acounting: find out how much this will cost. = *I would contribute towards budget efforts .[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) *I might be willing to make a small donation to these efforts, but in terms of time -- I'm not too sure. I intend to take this time to (mostly) step away from most News wiki activities and do a bit of introspection. It's been about 16 years. I want to take a careful look at time/priorities etc.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 15:45, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:51, 26 November 2025 (UTC) *I suggest opening a donation channel at that time; I can also contribute a spare change. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 06:18, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *:Thanks Sheminghui [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 06:59, 29 November 2025 (UTC) *::Do you folks have an NGO yet? If you dont would recommend the USA as the location to be based as fund raising from their is easiest and becoming a 503(c) is not that hard. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:49, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 4. System administration to install software and work around security vulnerabilities = I would contribute towards admin tasks including Linux system administration and MediaWiki [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:22, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :Can users use Wikipedia login on an externally hosted wiki? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :: In principle yes you could use OAuth for something like that. One example is at https://mdwiki.org, although in that case they only pre-approve accounts you could configure it differently. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 03:55, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anyway can use OAuth to log onto MDWiki with their Wikipedia user name, but you can only edit a couple of pages (your user page and a request for editing page) until you are granted editing privileges. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:46, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :In response to [[ru:User talk:Alexis Jazz#Hello]]: [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], I have no strong ties to Wikinews. Also no knowledge of ru which seems to be the largest wikinews language. And I've always wondered how a news website in wiki form could realistically work as articles likely go stale before they can get improved through the magic of wiki. From the looks of it, this is still an issue.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Generally I'm happy to answer some questions, but actually coding for and maintaining a Wikinews successor would be a major undertaking which is not really for me.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764267275161:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 18:14, 27 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::Okay thank you [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]]. What makes improving articles so difficult in wiki? What solution would you suggest? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 07:00, 29 November 2025 (UTC) :::[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], hire some paid editors to write and publish [[w:en:wp:stub|stubs]] for all major news stories throughout the day. That way the site becomes functional as a news source, and the bar to improve a stub is lower than the bar to create an article from scratch. But I don't know who'd be willing to pay for such a thing. Volunteers tend to only write about subjects they care about, and nobody cares about ''everything''. Combined with the presence of a [[w:en:Wikipedia:There is no deadline|deadline]], as news needs to be published before it turns into [[wikt:olds#Noun 2|olds]], it makes a general news wiki very difficult to maintain with just volunteers whose time and interests are limited.<span id="Alexis_Jazz:1764428567237:Wikinews_talkFTTCLNMigration" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;[[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:02, 29 November 2025 (UTC)</span> ::::Maybe news companies could sponsor these editors, and then copy the finished products for their outlets? [[User:GrinningIodize|GrinningIodize]] ([[User talk:GrinningIodize|talk]]) 15:42, 6 December 2025 (UTC) :::::i was thinking a tool could at least help with handling the markup if not picking the news events themselves [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:37, 11 December 2025 (UTC) : <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> can do some Unix, SQL, HTTPd and MediaWiki job. <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> am the technical director of cyclowiki.org for 4 years. IMHO using Wikimedia SULs on a non-Wikimedia site is a poor choice (not only technically, but in other respects too). [[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2025 (UTC) ::Hi @[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]], is it possible though? And what issues would it cause? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:38, 11 December 2025 (UTC) :::It is possible. We at MDWiki do it and we are happy with the results. But than our work is fairly integrated into the Wikipedia work. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:48, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :: <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> hereby remind of my four-months-old proposal, although am too busy specifically next several days to do anything of value. Give me a Unix shell or an SQL access and <span style="font-family:serif">I</span> won’t fail you. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 15:33, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::: Incnis Mrsi is a highly qualified and helpful contributor who has been supporting cyclowiki.org for many years. He's always ready to help in difficult situations, even when many prefer to sit back or remain silent. He's always willing to engage with a wide range of participants and develop any constructive ideas. I think his proposal is worth supporting. [[User:Serebr|Serebr]] ([[User talk:Serebr|talk]]) 03:17, 1 April 2026 (UTC) : I would be willing to help out with the MediaWiki configuration. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 19:55, 7 April 2026 (UTC) = 5. Name = No idea if same trademark can be used... [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:24, 25 November 2025 (UTC) :@[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] as you asked above, FYI there was fork of Wikinews in past, one was called OpenGlobe. If it is same people working on it then I do not mind, any name. For example [[:w:freenode]] moved to [[:w:Libera]] with a name change and successfully moved over 80% of tens thousands users to new site. It would be good to confirm that. Another aspect is in Question 4 whether users will need to register new account. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:54, 26 November 2025 (UTC) ::I don't think Miraheze would allow IP's actually Miraheze is a '''wiki farm host'''. Sorry for the excessive pings, @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:58, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fandom_(website) [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:02, 26 November 2025 (UTC) :::Anonymous editing can be enabled or disabled through ManageWiki on Miraheze which is normally open to all crats. ManageWiki is an easy to use extension we built so you can manage some config from on wiki. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::If we move forward with this migration, we will need a new name and logo. ::Any user from here will be able to create an account on the new Wikinews instance on Miraheze. But, there is no automatic way to transfer all existing users with us. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 03:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::If Miraheze is chosen, we will work with you guys to ensure you can claim imported edits and have them attributed to a future Miraheze accounts. Of course, you'll need to sign up again. We won't be able to transfer any user preferences or anything from Wikimedia. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:29, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: What happens with edits made by users who choose not to join the fork? If they are left as-is, are there processes in place to ensure those usernames are unavailable? For example, If I choose not to join the fork, are all of my current edits still attributed to my username and is that username essentially "taken" on Miraheze so that others can't register my name and claim my edits?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:47, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::::They would show an interwiki link back to the archived wikinews. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 15:22, 3 December 2025 (UTC) :::This is correct, while edit history can be 'attributed' to Miraheze accounts created following a migration, we don't have a way to reserve usernames/migrate wikimedia logins automatically - it will require individual registration. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 19:31, 27 November 2025 (UTC) :::: Have you tried implementing OAuth for wikimedia accounts? [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :We have asked Wikimedia what rules would have to be followed if a migration did take place with regard to trademarks. [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] ([[User talk:RhinosF1|talk]]) 19:32, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::Thank you all @[[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:33, 27 November 2025 (UTC) ::: Related: the broader Wikimedia community should weigh in on where to redirect Wikinews traffic. This is one of the strongest reasons to try something new at the current domains. I would hope the domain is put to use supporting an active community news effort, wherever it is hosted; historical pages can redirect. Unfortunately all of the news-related forks or comparables I know of also closed for lack of activity... [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:05, 10 December 2025 (UTC) There are tools built into mediawiki ie [[Special:Import]] that allows the entire history from one wiki to be moved to another. Lower on [https://mdwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Gout&action=history&offset=&limit=500 this page] you can see what it looks like. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:44, 18 December 2025 (UTC) = 6. Other = A small comment I'd like to make is that most interwiki-links on Wikinews (as far as I can see) are the same on Miraheze. (See: [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki Special:Interwiki]) As far as I can tell, this would not affect any of the Wikinews articles, when they are moved to Miraheze. [[User:Rodejong|Rodejong]] ([[User talk:Rodejong|talk]]) 11:50, 28 November 2025 (UTC) = 7. Wikifarm requirements, classes of hosting = One of the sticking points in discussions about the future of Wikinews was what level of hosting and customization was supported or expected; WMF having a high minimum bar for supporting production servers [and hosting all servers on shared infrastructure where a change to one site can throttle or take down others]. A number of community projects have indicated that, e.g., WM Cloud Services is not great for hosting an actively edited wikifarm. But if a number of free knowledge projects need a wiki farm with good archival practices, it might make sense for this to change, or to have an official partnership b/t WMF or the WM affiliate network and such a group. To this end, defining the needed level of service provision (including multilingual support) would be a good step. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 20:12, 10 December 2025 (UTC) :Would WMCloud be allowed here? WMCloud is supposed to be related to a wikimedia project, if Wikinews gets shutdown its no longer a wikinews project. That said, WM Cloud is probably sufficient to host a wiki the size of Wikinews even with active editing, but it would require sysadmins who know how to manage mediawiki. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 22:21, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :: This question came up in another thread; even if this is possible it would be good to know exactly what level of service is needed for a neutral wikifarm like Miraheze to host WN, what that costs, &c. [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:13, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :::Having already done some discussions and sizing, while the larger news wikis would be substantial adds, none would surpass the larger projects already on our service and we have plenty of capacity to take the entire fleet of Wikinews language families should we be selected. The Miraheze of 2026 is running on a much-improved infrastructure stack over what some might be familiar with from a few years back. :::Miraheze would not impose a charge to act as host, but as a donor-driven platform, donations are always welcome to help us keep pace with expanding demand. :) Our [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Finance finances] and [https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Budget budgets] are public for those interested. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:56, 5 April 2026 (UTC) ::::@[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]], just throwing it out there but any '''start date''' or url? Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:31, 5 April 2026 (UTC) {{anchor|hardware}}Requirements depend on the fate of the old news. Minor requirements while Wikimedia keeps the archives, but Wikinews would need to maintain or rent a strong database management system if Wikimedia ejects all WN wikis (including the past content, especially of the Russian Wikinews) completely. --[[User:Incnis Mrsi|Incnis Mrsi]] ([[User talk:Incnis Mrsi|talk]]) 17:03, 4 April 2026 (UTC) =[[MDWiki:Main_Page]]= We forked health content to MDWiki a few years ago. With respect to cost each Wiki is about 25 to 40 USD/month and this includes updates, sys admin stuff, and security. One gets 10 GB of SDD space and then it is 1$ per GB after that. You get 100 GB of bandwidth after whic it is 0.05$ per GB. Specialied software work is about 100$ per hour but they have limited capacity for this work. With respect to using the name and logo, if you have consensus here to all go in the same direction, I would be supportive. If folks want to go in different directions than things would be a bit more complicated. Do you want to move all languages to a single wiki (less expensive) or keep each language in its own wiki? We use SkizNet which is USA based. [[User:Doc James|Doc James]] ([[User talk:Doc James|talk]]) 23:38, 18 December 2025 (UTC) :Do you have a comment how come Miraheze provides hosting for free, @[[User:Doc James|Doc James]]? Thanks. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 10:32, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: They are also volunteer-based and rely on donations from users to run their servers. See also: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 10:35, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Like anything else, if you want to do something custom or boss people around you need to pay for it. Miraheze hosting is more similar to WMF hosting where its solid but they aren't going to suddenly bend to your whims if you dont like the existing choices. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 16:37, 30 March 2026 (UTC) == Everyone please check this out! Thank you. == https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/78142 I have requested a new English Wikinews. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 21:40, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :While I appreciate your interest in Miraheze. I do not think it is wise to make a unilateral move when the community is still weighing on the best hosting option. There is still more than a month of time to decide. [[User:PetraMagna|PetraMagna]] ([[User talk:PetraMagna|talk]]) 22:43, 30 March 2026 (UTC) ::Sorry but im pretty sure they have decided. Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:45, 30 March 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], While I appreciate the enthusiasm for saving this project, I'll reiterate Petra - users ''should not'' request a wikinews fork at Miraheze on behalf of the project while discussion is ongoing and we are still waiting for WMF clearance on branding, especially if the person making the request isn't currently an administrator/crat on the wikinews project they're requesting it for. :::While your intentions are good, this will be interpreted as hostile forking and will be declined/deleted. :::--[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 04:58, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I agree with others. Things are still uncertain regarding the migration. When and how it will take place. The community is still discussing it, so please be patient. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 07:40, 31 March 2026 (UTC) == How to get the entire enwn backed up? == CC @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]] @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]] @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] -- Hi, does anyone know how I can get the backup of the entire enwn (along with history, local files, logs -- what have you) so that I can keep a copy of it on my local system, and perhaps run it via, say a docker setup? I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 11:18, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Would you be able to guide me how to run it locally, perhaps? [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 12:07, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think the dumps page contains the data for logs or other non page info (may be wrong, if so I’d be glad for someone to correct me). There is probably a way to get this considering replica’s of the databases containing all information for a wiki are publicly accessible, but that may be more involved. I also don’t believe images are provided as an easy dump, but there are pieces of software that can create backups of all page content and images (https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/WikiTeam being the main one). I intend to probably run a dump of the wikinewses closer to the read only date and have it uploaded to the Internet Archive, assuming WikiTeam or someone else doesn’t do so first. [[User:PixDeVl|PixDeVl]] ([[User talk:PixDeVl|talk]]) 12:47, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::Dumps server contains multiple files with a variety of data. I think the only thing really missing is user data and anything that has been deleted/oversighted. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 17:14, 2 April 2026 (UTC) :::What does user data mean? I won't care about the IP logs, nor should that be publicly available -- but say the scripts that pizero worked on -- lack of that might break the functionality. But does that mean the dumps can recreate the entire wiki? And also, dumps.wm has nothing after 26.01 -- is it not updated monthly? If so, will it be available post May 4.<br>[[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 17:27, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::::It doesn't have your password, email,user preferences, that sort of thing. If its non-public information its not in the dumps. I'm not sure what the update frequency is. I think its slower than monthly. I imagine its documented somewhere. [[user:bawolff|Bawolff]] [[user talk:Bawolff|☺]][[User:Bawolff/Sandbox|☻]] 18:29, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == Clarification: WM NYC and Miraheze joint bid and requests on Miraheze == Hello all, as mentioned [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts#Current_Updates on Meta-wiki], WM NYC and Miraheze representatives are in joint discussions with WMF on a potential bid for an approved revival of the Wikinews projects with permission to utilize the same name and branding. While the community's enthusiasm for saving the project is appreciated and understood (hell, I've saved a project from the Fandom memory-hole myself), Miraheze '''''will not approve any new project requests from individuals (especially those who are not admins or crats on the language-specific WN projects)''''' until we have clear and full signoff from the WMF. Thank you for your patience while discussions are ongoing. --[[User:NotAracham|NotAracham]] ([[User talk:NotAracham|talk]]) 16:40, 5 April 2026 (UTC) = Coordination Group = Should we create a Telegram group so everyone interested in continuing this project can gather there, or should we simply refresh this page periodically to stay updated on where we should migrate? [[User:Rtnf|Rtnf]] ([[User talk:Rtnf|talk]]) 04:34, 7 April 2026 (UTC) I tried to summarize all the current conversations [http://cyllchuesnconii.rf.gd/Main/Wikinews here].[[User:Niryhpr|Niryhpr]] ([[User talk:Niryhpr|talk]]) 14:31, 7 April 2026 (UTC) jtv63htcf31sakn7x0kdvcx8pjknz06 3 3050355 5023239 4950036 2026-04-30T20:46:02Z Mfield 89407 Mfield moved page [[User talk:Ant870]] to [[User talk:Renamed user f87ca79c6500dc05f849b64e474310f6]] without leaving a redirect: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Ant870|Ant870]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Renamed user f87ca79c6500dc05f849b64e474310f6|Renamed user f87ca79c6500dc05f849b64e474310f6]]" 4950036 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Ant870}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 05:51, 28 November 2025 (UTC) 93xwvcbr8tl36qfarfgssehcczi4az6 3 3071827 5023306 5013594 2026-05-01T03:01:42Z Revibot I 1627724 Bot: Archiving 1 thread from [[User talk:Michael.C.Wright]] 5023306 wikitext text/x-wiki {{talkarchivenav}} == Did you block me because of that dispute? == Can I still write stories? @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:51, 13 January 2026 (UTC) :Your not blocked? [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-27707-2|&#126;2026-27707-2]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-27707-2|talk]]) 18:02, 13 January 2026 (UTC) :Your not blocked? [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-27707-2|&#126;2026-27707-2]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-27707-2|talk]]) 18:02, 13 January 2026 (UTC) : @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]], I didn't block either of you. Please, ''please'' be mindful of contributing to disruption, even if you are responding to others' disruption. Revert once and notify at [[WN:AAA]]. Beyond that, you're just playing into their game. We can ultimately undo whatever vandalism they've done and we have a few active admin these days who can help with blocks and deletions. And thank you for your continued work with vandals. 👍[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:17, 13 January 2026 (UTC) == Interview style guide == I'm in the process of transcribing a very interesting interview - is there a style guide for this? Particularly, I wondered on the wikinews stance regarding removing "um"s, "like"s, and small phrases that do not contribute to the meaning. Thanks. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 16:10, 14 January 2026 (UTC) : Our style guide briefly addresses this issue: [[Wikinews:Style_guide#Quotes]]. : The Chicago Manual of Style offers more specific guidance[https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/qanda/data/faq/topics/Quotations/faq0069.html], which may be useful to ''Wikinews''. : Based on both, I would recommend the following: : :# Begin the verification process for the transcript and interviewee as early as possible by coordinating with reviewers via Scoop, similar to what was done [[Talk:Robert Dick and Mark Dresser re-unite at the Fridman Gallery#Email or in-person interview|here]]. Reviewers must be able to verify (1) that the interview took place and (2) the interviewee’s identity if they are named. (For brief, on-the-scene interviews, this requirement may be relaxed; this sounds like a more substantive interview.) :# Include a transparency note in the article body, such as ''This interview has been edited for length and clarity''. :# Ensure that any edits do not alter the interviewee’s original meaning. :# Provide the full interview transcript (to include all verbal ticks or speech disfluencies) on the talk page, excluding any sensitive information, both for transparency and reviewer verification. : [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:22, 14 January 2026 (UTC) ::I submitted it for review - I didn't want to clutter the talk page with the full text, is there an accepted way to include it on a subpage? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:04, 16 January 2026 (UTC) ::: As far as I know they've always gone in the talk page, where policy requires them to be.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:05, 17 January 2026 (UTC) ::::I don't think you linked to that policy, where is it? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:15, 17 January 2026 (UTC) ::::: wn:or[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:18, 17 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::I actually don't see anything explicitly stating that interviews should be in raw text on the talk page. I see that notes should be on the talk page and that interviews should be e-mailed to scoop. Is this interviews being on the talk page your interpretation? I'm asking because I wanted to get it as right as possible from the outset, but again, I don't want to make the talk page unreadable. I may just use a collapse if that's acceptable. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:51, 17 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::: The policy is to place original reporting notes, including interview transcripts, on the article’s talk page. Using collapsible formatting there is fine if readability is a concern.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:03, 17 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::::I guess my confusion is that a transcript of an audio interview does not seem like original reporting notes to me. Is there something there that explicitly includes later transcripts of the interview? Regardless I have posted it. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 15:12, 17 January 2026 (UTC) {{outdent|8}}Transcripts of recorded interviews are part of original reporting notes because they document the primary evidence behind the article. They belong on the talk page so reviewers and readers can verify what was said and how it was used. Any follow-up clarifications or additions from the interviewee should also be clearly attributed in the article. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:49, 17 January 2026 (UTC) :Guess emailing to scoop is fine too [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 12:48, 18 January 2026 (UTC) == AI again == I made a news article about Davos and PM Carney, but i put it into Grok.AI generator still looks good though, thoughts? Thank you. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 17:15, 20 January 2026 (UTC) : As long as the article complies with [[WN:AI]], I don't foresee a problem with using AI. '''Recommendation''': Before requesting review, independently verify that every factual claim is directly supported by the cited sources. This reduces the risk of post-publication corrections or retractions and should be treated as a standard part of article development.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:47, 20 January 2026 (UTC) == Quinton Declare roblox user == I think you need to read this... Exposing him a promotional newsie https://chatgpt.com/c/69727a13-7978-832c-8c0c-fc3b06461387 [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:29, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:29, 22 January 2026 (UTC) ::https://chatgpt.com/c/69727a13-7978-832c-8c0c-fc3b06461387 ::Only source '''WikiNews'''. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:32, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :::I didn't link but got this from ChatGPT, "Roblox itself is not “news,” but things that happen on Roblox can be real news". [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:35, 22 January 2026 (UTC) ::::https://chatgpt.com/c/69727cc3-ad14-8329-b6a1-eef94817b2cb [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:40, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :::::Kannotlogin doesn't seem notable... Aka Quentin declear. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:41, 22 January 2026 (UTC) ::::::Why would AI lie about this matter? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:42, 22 January 2026 (UTC) == Clearing off steam... Original Reporting == I may have gotten ahead of myself, but I still think someone should look into this matter. Now I will focus on writing articles. Thanks. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:07, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] OR? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:23, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :: I originally thought the same. However, there were no original facts published in the article. All of the facts were supported by the listed sources, making it a synthesis article. I think it being a synthesis article as opposed to OR is better in regards to the conflict of interest. I mentioned this change from OR to synthesis in the [[Talk:Roblox player uncovers cheating, awarded Guinness World Record#Review of revision 4974067 %5BPassed%5D|review summary]] (just trying to be transparent).[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:28, 22 January 2026 (UTC) :::Ok enough bugging you Michael, thank you again! @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 20:38, 22 January 2026 (UTC) == FYI == Hi Michael, there's a multiple account issue: [[d:Wikidata:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kannotlogin|Wikidata:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kannotlogin]]. [[User:Taichi|Taichi]] ([[User talk:Taichi|talk]]) 06:49, 26 January 2026 (UTC) :I knew something seemed off about this. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] @[[User:Taichi|Taichi]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:12, 26 January 2026 (UTC) ::Does the link work? https://chatgpt.com/c/69776edc-0294-8331-b7f3-b3072dd952b1 ::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 13:46, 26 January 2026 (UTC) == AI real quick question sorry again. == I know recently a census was cast to ban AI usage, but if I use AI prompt can I put into my own words? Thanks, I've talked to Paul also about this topic. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:05, 29 January 2026 (UTC) : I am confused. You voted to ban AI usage.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:27, 29 January 2026 (UTC) ::I want to retract my vote to oppose. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 00:07, 30 January 2026 (UTC) :Until any proposal is formally adopted, the project continues to operate under its existing policies and guidelines. At present, guidance specific to AI use exists only in the proposed [[WN:AI]] page. :From my perspective, the primary risk to Wikinews is not whether content is drafted by a human or assisted by a tool, but whether inaccuracies, bias, or unsourced claims pass through development and review. AI “hallucinations” are functionally no different from human-introduced errors once they appear in article text, and both are addressed by the same requirement: proper sourcing and full verification during review. :Accordingly, the appropriate approach is to follow existing guidance, maintain transparency where applicable, and ensure that all content — regardless of how it is drafted — meets our standards for accuracy, neutrality, and verification. :Contributors who wish to participate in shaping future policy on this topic should continue the discussion at [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals#Proposal to ban usage of AI at Wikinews]]. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:25, 30 January 2026 (UTC) == Question about local WN links == On the article that recently was published, you changed a few links from the en.wiki link to the local link, such as {{w|New York City}} to [[New York City]]. The local link currently is a redirect to a category of stories about New York. Do you know, are all local links like this to categories, or is there precedent for creating mini profile-like pages here on frequently covered topics? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 14:49, 31 January 2026 (UTC) : There are a few things to consider with interwiki linking articles at Wikinews, especially using {{tl|w}}: : :* [[WN:SG]] encourages us to not over-wikify articles. :* <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> documentation encourages us to convert it to normal linking if it resolves to a local [[Wikinews:Category Portals|category portal]]. :* Like any website, we want to keep our readers ''here'' rather than send them to another page. : : In the example you provided[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Bruce_Gallanter_interviews_Elliott_Sharp,_Joe_Fonda_at_Downtown_Music_Gallery_event&diff=prev&oldid=4977061], the <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> link resolved to a local portal, not to en.WP. You can verify here: {{w|New York City}}. So I followed the advice of the template:W documentation and converted it to a local link. I do that when reviewing and when archiving. I believe the goal with <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> was to slowly, over time, create our local categories and continue to convert old <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> links to point to our local categories in an effort to retain readership rather than send them away on a wikilink chase. <br>The [[User:Pi zero|Pi zero]] generation, who developed our modern review system leaned more heavily on the journalism aspect rather than the wiki aspect and preferred that our articles look more journalistic and less like a wiki. They preferred that if we link to a sister project, it be for "particularly relevant background material" only. We have admittedly drifted from that guidance. <br>A quick tip for those who want to follow this procedure when developing articles: under Preferences → Gadgets → User interface gadgets you can enable "Underline in green categorizable <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> links." Then when <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> links resolve locally, you can quickly and easily see it because the link will have double underlines when your cursor hovers over it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:53, 31 January 2026 (UTC) ::What I was asking is if the portal is ever _not_ a category but is a local article of some other kind. Are there any cases like this or are they all redirects to categories? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 18:18, 31 January 2026 (UTC) ::: I am not aware of any cases where a portal is not a category. ::: One ''could'' put an article title into <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki>. But that is not the intended use of the template and I suspect it would be removed during the review or archival process if found. ::: The same section of the style guide that covers wikilinking an article discusses where to place links to other ''Wikinews'' articles, which is at the end of the article, sparingly. ::: So in short; if the <nowiki>{{w}}</nowiki> template is used correctly, as a link in the article body, it resolves to something that provides "particularly relevant background material only," is not another ''Wikinews'' article, and does not otherwise contribute to "over-wikifying" the article. ::: Does that answer your question or at least get closer to what you are asking?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:48, 31 January 2026 (UTC) : > ''is there precedent for creating mini profile-like pages here on frequently covered topics?'' : I overlooked this question. I'm not aware of any precedent for this. My suggestion (you are free to take it or leave it) is to create a mock-up in your sandbox to demonstrate what you mean and then propose it formally to the community. If I understand it correctly, I'd support it, as you write a lot of OR and I think it would be good to organize it so it's easier to showcase and encourage click-through to other, similar articles.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 22:12, 31 January 2026 (UTC) == If AI usage gets taken away... == I might have to leave the project... @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 18:03, 24 February 2026 (UTC) : I would genuinely hate to see you leave the project. You have been a long-standing and helpful contributor. : I too believe AI tools can be useful when used carefully, and that the risks can be managed within our existing [[WN:REV]] framework and the proposed [[WN:AI]] guideline. : Given how frequently the tools are still being used, I suspect many contributors find them valuable, even if few are participating in the discussion. If you disagree with points raised there, it would help to say so and explain why. Others may share your view but be reluctant (or intimidated) to speak up first. : That said, if the community reaches a clear consensus, we are bound to respect that decision.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 18:20, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :Hi [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] :* There is a nasty workaround. After using one AI to write, ask all AI to check for '''inaccuracies and grammar AGAINST THE SOURCES LINKED (not the whole web)'''. Have you tried doing this before? I believe it is a growing field in research and it could reduce risk of hallucinations. If it works well then the AI ban may not be necessary. :* Could use that page https://gryllida.neocities.org/news/writer/v3/ and not upload to wiki untill it was requested to be checked for inaccuracies; revised; requested to be checked for inaccuracies; revised; and so on. :* Inaccuracies could be hallucinated too. Thats why i suggest to check several AI chatbots to assess. :Regards, [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 19:45, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::I love AI but it has to go it will then. Per consensus, @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] ::Also I will try and stick around. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 19:56, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::I wrote the above because you could try it now (while consensus is pending) and '''show''', in that "lets ban usage of AI" discussion, that AI ''can'' work well if it was used correctly. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:48, 24 February 2026 (UTC) : Of course, there's a much less-nasty ''solution''—with no work-around needed—that is also, already policy compliant: verify all AI output against the listed sources. 🤔[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 20:55, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::For BigKrow it was requested a few dozens of times that he verifies output. Nothing changed. I believe there is some substantial reason for this different from "I did not do it". [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:58, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::: Wait, so all facts need to be verified? Is that what you are saying?[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:05, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::No, I did not say that. What did I say? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:12, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::The TLDR of what I said: asking BigKrow to "check AI output against the sources" (a) was alreaduly suggested before many times (b) did not work and may not work at all and (c) is not highly relevant when speaking with BigKrow. Comprehension and grammar are something he struggles with, chronically. The cause for this is not publicly available but it exists and is not just a case of "I did not want to do it". ::::Maybe it is more easy to understand for you now that I rephrased it? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:17, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::Are you calling me dim witted? @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:23, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::please remember I suffer from mental illnesses. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:24, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::i still think I'm doing fine here as much as possible. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:25, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::ill write in my own work Kay? [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:27, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::This is fine with me. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:29, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::thank you for sticking with me lol. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:36, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::Hi [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] I was contaťed below and also off-wiki with a note that I was having personal attack in the above discussion and that I consistently (and multiple times) attacked your writings. I wanted to check with you whether you are perceiving me as supportive or as an condescending/abusive/rude person, your feedback would help me improve my communication in the future. I thought I was being supportive. Please let me know your position on this matter. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:26, 25 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::: You weren't contacted below or off-wiki. In both cases, ''you'' made contact. ::::::::::: Nobody invited you to join this discussion and I don't see that you brought any value to it. Clearly Don felt insulted by your comment and I too felt it was inappropriate. ::::::::::: I think your best course of action is to apologize and move on, hopefully learning something in the process about how you communicate with others.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:31, 25 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::Hi @[[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] :::::::* I was referring to the mental illness which was not named anywhere as far as I can see. :::::::* I think a reviewer approaching you and saying to you 'just check it against all sources, mate' like Michael.C.Wright did above is unhelpful. :::::::** The said reviewer ought to know that it was already requested from you a dozen of times and did not work. :::::::** The said reviewer ought to know that just you wanting to do it better will not fully help. It is like asking a person with one leg amputated to run. If they just badly want to run it will not make that second leg appear. :::::::* That was why I suggested you asking AI to check for inaccuracies since that is something that you do not always have the capacity to fully do yourself. :::::::Hope this is helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:29, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::sorry for snapping at you @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:35, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::No worries [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:38, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::: You actually said "Comprehension and grammar are something he struggles with, chronically." :::::::: What you hoped to convey, or what you might have ''meant'' to say are not apparent from that statement.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 21:37, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::Do you have an additional question from this [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 21:38, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::its not likely I will even see you both in real life tbh. [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 21:49, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::::You two seem like very nice people though and I appreciate your help! @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] [[User:BigKrow|BigKrow]] ([[User talk:BigKrow|talk]]) 22:05, 24 February 2026 (UTC) ::::::::::::Please call me "Don" from now on, thank you both! My real first name. @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ::::::::::::@[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 22:12, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::::::nice to meet you ^_^ [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 23:00, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::: I know that talk pages are important to you, and you wish to avoid what you call "meta discussions." Part of that might be to not involve yourself in the conversations happening between two people at a user's talk page. You were neither pinged nor mentioned, yet you inserted yourself and proceeded to insult someone's intelligence and the quality of their work. And this isn't the first time this has happened with this individual contributor. :::::::::: I don't have a question but I do have two suggestions: :::::::::: ::::::::::# Think about how it is perceived when you insert yourself into a conversation and proceed to insult the others already in the conversation. ::::::::::# Choose your words better than the following: :::::::::: :::::::::: ::::::::::* "This is garbage because..."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:BigKrow/Archive_1#c-Gryllida-20251225202500-Published:_Domestic_call_in_Rochester,_New_York_leads_to_three_police_officers_b] ::::::::::* "Please do not submit crappy paragraphs for review."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User_talk:BigKrow/Archive_1#c-Gryllida-20251225202500-Published:_Domestic_call_in_Rochester,_New_York_leads_to_three_police_officers_b] ::::::::::* "Authors are untrustworthy..."[https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_talk:Cite_sources#c-Gryllida-20260219000500-Michael.C.Wright-20260216192300] :::::::::: :::::::::: This conversation was between two people about AI and you inserted yourself then turned it into a personal attack. :::::::::: No amount of explaining it away changes what you clearly wrote.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 23:26, 24 February 2026 (UTC) :::::::::::I'd like to comment that calling a piece of text poor was not a personal attack and the point I was making above was not meant neither it was perceived as a personal attack to the best of my knowledge. Unless substantial new information is provided I will not need to comment on this matter further. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 00:16, 25 February 2026 (UTC) == Wildfire article == I don't particularly disagree (particularly looking at how the article morph'd after I submitted it) with your assessment of the article. A minor 2 points, though: I was just trying to throw together a 'quickie' breaking article. There are LOADS of things happening with that mess -- I was just trying to throw a little something up, really. And, historically: 'authorities' is just quick shorthand for 'the folks responding to the mess' around WN. We could easily publish 4 articles about this train wreck going on in Texas right now. I just don't have time. Somebody else started that article, I thought I was going to do a few minor bits then (I think) the OP vanished (not sure, though). [[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:15, 27 February 2026 (UTC) :I am still here, it's just that I am sometimes busy (in college). [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 17:01, 27 February 2026 (UTC) : My intent here is to let you know where my head was at in the review process...this is not meant to be argumentative: : I was initially prepared to publish a brief, breaking piece. But once I began verifying the details, it became clear the article, as written, would not clarify the situation and might instead add confusion. : Public health and safety reporting requires extra care. We have a responsibility to be precise. We have previously published language — for example, in [[Shooting at Benihana restaurant in Maple Grove, Minnesota leaves one injured]] — that overstated what sources supported in a ''public safety'' context. : With the [[Wildfires burn across parts of US states of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas|wildfire article]], I intentionally erred on the side of caution. We could certainly have reduced scope — avoided naming individual fires, or simply directed readers to official emergency information — rather than trying to summarize everything. There was significant confusion around the 8-ball fire, for example, that affected the accuracy of our article, that we could have avoided altogether by not trying to name all of the fires (in the service of speed). : On “authorities”: the ABC7 source named specific entities (Amarillo Area Office of Emergency Management, Donley County Sheriff’s Office, Tyrone Volunteer Fire Department) for all evacuations they listed. In cases like this, specific attribution improves both neutrality and verifiability. : But more broadly, once we begin listing evacuation orders, we need to do so comprehensively. And I'm not sure we have the ability to keep up with it once we start. Should someone decide to rely on our reporting for their safety, can we honestly support them? I'm not willing to say we are right now. : Taken as a whole, I thought the article, as presented for review, wasn't ready. And I agree with you that oftentimes 'authorities' can be used. I also agree we can publish quick briefs on breaking news, such as with our story about the [[Talk:Homeland Security says Minneapolis woman shot by ICE officer dies#Help expanding breaking news|first Minneapolis ICE shooting]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:23, 27 February 2026 (UTC) ::In situations like this, my prescription is: narrow the focus. Short, quick, tight. I will see about working something up in that regard soon. —[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 16:14, 28 February 2026 (UTC) ===Cross posting question which was unnoticed=== I had a question about this change [https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Musical_performance_presented_by_Striped_Light_in_Long_Island_City,_New_York_showcases_four_performers&diff=prev&oldid=4990598]. I did not put my name in there and have no objection to it being removed, but you brought up the topic of accredited reporters in your edit description. As far as I know I applied to be accredited a month ago and it has more or less been sitting there gathering dust - did I miss part of the procedure needed? [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 03:21, 5 March 2026 (UTC) : > ''did I miss part of the procedure needed?'' : Not that I can see. But do note that the process might take some time as we have few active contributors and [[Wikinews:Accreditation requests/Asheiou#c-Heavy_Water-20230613170900-Questions_and_comments|historically, the accreditation process takes some time]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:10, 5 March 2026 (UTC) : I have also added a statement to the sitenotice for further announcement to the community. Hopefully that spurs more engagement. : I'm not sure how much notification truly happens when we just increment a ticker in the votings box, maybe we should update that process.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:21, 5 March 2026 (UTC) == Vandalism on recent changes no u ****** == please remove hide or something please urgently @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 15:16, 5 March 2026 (UTC) : {{done}} Feel free to email details in cases like this. Thanks![[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:24, 5 March 2026 (UTC) == Request for change to wording == It is my view that the message you posted on my talk page was worded disrespectfully as it was "abrasive", for your reference, I would suggest to write "Hi, I am concerned undeleting a page to gatwick it puts other users at disadvantage as they, not being sysops, cannot undelete themselves, and have to post [[WN:DR]] undeletion request. Please let me know if you agree or if you would prefer a discussion in water cooler to get consensus and a policy clarification." I think it is basically same content but it does not contain the "you are ignoring policy, you are being abusive" component - it is possible that your interpretation of the policy is incorrect and that consensus will be to add a note that admins can undelte anything. In your original message the way it was worded, it seemed that you were sure that your interpretation was correct. This is why I considered the tone of that message as abrasive, it creates additional and unnecessary tension. The message is also long. It makes it more confusing. There is no need to create it a lecture on policy. Mentioning a policy is sufficient. Message that is too long creates in my view more confusion. In my view it is not necessary to include a hint that the reader might be ignoring that policy. Accusation of policy violation is not the main issue; the main issue is to converge on how to interpret the policy. I asked similar question about wording of "notification about unsuccessful review" template for user talk, it is also coming from "we/community" and not "I", which in my view makes the person sound less approachable. If some of above points, that seem important to me as they are making me feel "unwelcome" here, is something that you could consider when writing messages to me, and maybe to others, I would appreciate it. I believe it would make work more efficient and faster. I do not require a response to this, you may abandon or delete this message if you want. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 21:57, 5 March 2026 (UTC) :As a neutral outside observer I have been uncomfortable with some of your dialog directed at Gryllida in the past and in fact have it brought it up at least once. It might be a good idea to be sure of your perspective. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 00:32, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :: I do not find you to be an outside observer, let alone a neutral one. Are you not aware that the Discord server essentially records conversation histories in #general, for all to see? Even if one is not present while you and others scheme on how to kick someone out of Wikinews, it can still be seen.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:06, 6 March 2026 (UTC) : I am sure you can understand the hypocrisy in using 340+ words to say, in part, that 197 words are confusing to you. That hypocrisy informs me that this post was not made in a good-faith effort to try to resolve a conflict.<br>And if that wasn't enough to disqualify your comment as not in good faith, the fact that none of the quotes above are accurate, let alone representative of what I actually said, does.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 00:59, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::I was raising concern about tone and about your message being confusing, yes. The tone of this last message is still an issue, it was 'you are not in good faith' message without attempt to clarify content. Honestly I am still confused what you wanted. If you wish to rephrase it more clearly, it would be helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 01:24, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::: I'm not playing these games with you. Your interpretation of tone from text is neither within my control nor my responsibility. [[User talk:Gryllida#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260304192500-Unilateral_undeletion|This post is factual and devoid of insinuation or supposition]]. Your reaction to it is your responsibility. ::: The guideline states that the only valid reason to even ''request'' an undeletion is if the deletion was in error. Neither of the deletions was in error. Neither of the undeletions had a request. Therefore neither of your undeletions followed guidelines. The problem is further complicated by the fact that you authored the article and therefore ''misused'' your admin tools in favor of your personal editing interests. ::: On its own, it might be a minor issue, but using your admin tools for personal interests is [[Wikinews:Requests for permissions#c-Michael.C.Wright-20260218022200-Gryllida-20260216202600|becoming a pattern]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:51, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::::A few clarifications... ::::# I considered it fine for ''anyone'' to request undeletion for Gatwick purpose. (Whether that is a good process to follow, that is discussed on another forum.) In that context, I believe the implication about "misused in personal interests" is invalid and is unnecessarily negative. This is why I suggest you to present your words differently, allowing space for that either your interpretation or even the guideline itself was wrong. ::::# Example (forgetting i had supposed coi) ::::## positive tone: 'Hey Gryllida, you just undeleted a article to Gatwick it, I think this is a great idea and should be added to policy for anyone to have access to undelete an old refreshed story by request'. ::::## neutral tone: 'Hey Gryllida, you just undeleted a article to Gatwick it, I think this is different from policy. what is wrong, you or the policy?'. ::::## negative tone: 'Hey Gryllida, you just undeleted a article to Gatwick it, I think this is a terrible idea and is a policy violation'. ::::Hope this is helpful. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:19, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::::: > ''I considered it fine for ''anyone'' to request undeletion'' ::::: Yet you didn't request it.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 02:20, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::::::Yeah, I consider it acceptable for ''any admin'' to undelete their own or others' work if they deem it appropriate. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:51, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]]: I will be upfront. I haven't followed the full history of what's been going on between you two, and I don't want to pretend I have. But as someone who cares about this project, I feel compelled to say something. Wikinews is at a point where every experienced editor genuinely matters. So many long standing contributors have drifted away over the years, and the community is smaller for it. That's exactly why seeing tension between two editors I respect, editors who clearly do care about this project is difficult to watch. :I've noticed what seems like an ongoing friction(?) between you both, and I simply wanted to ask, as a fellow community member, whether there's a way to work through whatever the underlying issues are. :This isn't meant as a judgment of either of you. I am not in a position to say who's right or wrong, and that's not my place. I just genuinely believe the project needs you both and more importantly, it needs you both pulling in the same direction. You've clearly been able to work well together before. I hope that's possible again. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 04:52, 6 March 2026 (UTC) ::Hi Asked42, I appreciate you coming to have a look. I undeleted a page I was working on and MCW says it should not be undeleted because it was deleted 'by the rules' as abandoned page. That is the first time I am seeing such paradigm, yet I am the one being accused of sysop privilege abuse in this. I consider this behaviour dishonest as I call out abuse from a user only if it happened repeatedly despite having agreed on something in the past. I still have no clue what it is that needs to be agreed on, in this situation. Acagastya proposed a good solution, moving pages to user space to avoid them being deleted. I am happy with that solution but I suspect I will be haunted by another few weeks of discussions about sysop privilege abuse based on this, perhaps for years, and will be told that it is my own problem. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 05:02, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :: @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], thank you for your input and feedback. I would agree that there is ongoing and long-standing friction between Gryllida and I. :: > ''I simply wanted to ask, as a fellow community member, whether there's a way to work through whatever the underlying issues are.'' :: I have [[Wikinews:Water cooler/policy#Clarification: use of administrative undelete on articles authored by the admin|posted a question]] to the larger community in an attempt to clarify at least the cause of the latest flare-up. :: I have also intimated on- and off-wiki to other, uninvolved administrators that I would be interested in mediated dispute resolution. I do think the underlying causes of the tension should be discussed beyond just Gryllida and myself.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:38, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == Texas firefighters address wildfires across parts of the state == Please check my logic on that article's Talk page. I think I am correct. It's stale now, so I'd have to gatwick (in the least), but I think I am correct in my comments.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 14:40, 6 March 2026 (UTC) : I am no longer uninvolved as a reviewer (I've expanded the article) and the latest review was by [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]]. <br>Before I expanded the article, I was in the process of approving it with a Style guide exception for it being short (below 100 words) after my review edits. However, I didn't feel we had a problem with too few sources. I felt that both sources support the broader fact that more firefighters are being sent to the Panhandle. <br>However, the KETK source is six days older than the KWTX source and KETK does not specifically reference deployment from Central Texas, nor the Robinson volunteer dept. But they do both mention broader deployment to the Panhandle using TIFMAS. So I was willing to publish, also noting it was Gatwicked once already and we were close to being stale.<br>[[WN:Pillars]] does specifically state "A synthesis article must have at least two mutually independent, trust-worthy sources verifying the focal news event of the article." Last March, I copied that verbatim to [[WN:CS]] policy.[https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews:Cite_sources&diff=prev&oldid=4842931] <br>Since I'm now involved in development, I'm trying to tread lightly. I don't think it is appropriate for me to instruct another reviewer ''how'' to review that specific article. I could honestly concede to both sides. The reviewer feedback has merit and is grounded in policy and the pillars, which I assume were meant to be 'upstream' of all PaGs, or the support for all PaGs.<br>I'll also say for a new reviewer, I'd personally much prefer <del>an</del> <ins>they</ins> err on the side of caution, rather than publishing something that might, for whatever reason, require a correction or retraction later.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 15:19, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :::OK -- fair enough -- to "fix" things, I just intend to gatwick the whole bit of business to something more fresh.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 18:32, 6 March 2026 (UTC) == A very tiny thing........ == ...but (I believe) ''notable'': We have a LOT of names here [[Wikinews:Credential verification]] that need their credentials 'expired' -- I can do the grunt work -- any thoughts? We kind of lost our steam as far as germinating/de-credentialing Accredited Reporters around here.--[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] ([[User talk:Bddpaux|talk]]) 23:51, 6 March 2026 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]], as part of upgrade, I think [[Wikinews:Accreditation requests/Gryllida|mine]] is missing in the list. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 11:45, 7 March 2026 (UTC) : We do have one open request for accreditation. : More broadly, though, the question of expiring credentials may point to a larger issue. Many of these processes (accreditation, deadlines, rigorous review) were created when the project placed a stronger emphasis on operating as a high-quality citizen journalism outlet. Over time, many of those processes have lost the rigor they once had. : It may be worth stepping back and asking whether that reflects limited capacity, or a broader shift in how the project sees itself and its mission. If the latter, it might also explain why systems like accreditation have gradually fallen out of focus or favor.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:59, 7 March 2026 (UTC) == Thank you == Thank you for really keeping the project moving over the last year. There was a similar stretch of time (starting shortly before you joined) where I was in the same position and I understand the amount of work that goes into it. I apologize for going AWOL since the summer. I really got demoralized about only whether what we did here had any meaning whatsoever, particularly in the context of the almost inevitability that the powers that be will shut us down and erase everything that dozens of people struggled for for 21 years, every dream of the people we lost along the way, if they determine we don't serve the top-down NGO goals the WMF bureaucracy and their minions have for Wikipedia (I understand there is a final decision to be made on our fate in December?) I was also drained by the constant talking about talking about doing something (although that's an eternal problem here) and more so the fact that I had to spend basically all my Wikinews time cleaning up (reviewed!) work because others (not you), writing or reviewing, didn't care for the basic standards we have established and documented so at least even if our work is pointless and lacks originality, we were good writers, damn it. I got busier, too. I don't know if I'll return to the level of activity I once maintained, but I'll try to do some stuff. Congrats on being demoted to the mop. [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 20:09, 7 March 2026 (UTC) : Thank you for the kind words and recognizing the work. Though it was a group effort. : > ''I understand there is a final decision to be made on our fate in December?'' : That was ''last'' December, unfortunately. We are officially in no-man's land with regards to that. I and others continue to press the Board for an update. I just recently tried posting to a new venue to see if I get better success there. Fingers crossed. : > ''I don't know if I'll return to the level of activity I once maintained, but I'll try to do some stuff'' : I think it would be most beneficial to have you and your red pen back, keeping us all on our toes quality-wise. You also represent a wealth of institutional knowledge that is desperately needed...especially if we are allowed to remain active but with some changes or updates to our work flow. : > ''Congrats on being demoted to the mop.'' : Thanks.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:40, 10 March 2026 (UTC) == [["One Battle After Another" wins 6 Oscars including Best Picture]] == Michael: Thank you for completing the review of this article and getting it published. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 17:15, 21 March 2026 (UTC) == Published: [[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]] (March 22) == <div style="border:2px solid #57DB1E;background:linear-gradient(135deg,#E6FFE6 0%,#F0FFF0 100%);padding:1em 1.5em;color:#1a1a1a;margin:1.5em;border-radius:4px;box-shadow:0 2px 8px rgba(87,219,30,0.15);"> <div style="padding-bottom:1em;">[[File:Wikinews collaboration logo 2.svg|150px|center|A helping hand!]]</div> [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|50px|left|link=]] <div style="margin-left:64px;"> <span style="font-size:1.1em;font-weight:bold;color:#2d5016;"> Hi {{{user}}}! Thank you for your contributions. </span><br/> The article '''[[South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground]]''', to which you contributed, has now been published. '''Congratulations! 🎉''' <div style="margin-top:0.5em;">The reviewer's comments and decision are available on the [[Talk:South Korean military halts small firearms drills after stray bullet strikes young girl on playground|article's talk page]].</div> <div style="margin-top:0.5em;">Thank you very much for your collaborative work and support. We hope you will continue contributing to Wikinews. If you have some time, consider taking a look at other articles currently [[:Category:Developing|under development]] or [[:Category:Review|awaiting review]]. Your help in improving or reviewing them would be greatly appreciated.</div> <div style="font-size:0.9em;color:#555;"> ---- This is an automated review notification. You can change your message preferences, including receiving notices only for articles you created or majorly contributed to, or disabling them entirely, at [[WN:EzPR 2025/NP|EzPR 2025/NP]]. </div></div></div> -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:34, 22 March 2026 (UTC) :That was a weird bug: I specified an empty custom comment, as my clipboard was borked. :Here is a copy... :A few remarks: :1. Having checked sources, I needed to make some changes, such as "near the neck" and not "in the neck", and the bombing incident was last year (not two years ago). Please check the edit history carefully and let me know if any of my changes were incorrect. :2. I am trying to push towards more exclusive content or more closer follow ups here. Could you please either think of the questions to ask the South Korean Army, or, write a follow up report when the investigations completed and drills resumed? :3. Barely newsworthy as this is nearly 5 days old but I think this is fine to publish. :4. For npov balance, recommend including responses from other sources, i.e., from someone who is not a part of the South Korean Army. This may be done up to 24 hours after the story is published. :Overall, this looks great, I appreciate the report!!! [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 12:38, 22 March 2026 (UTC) == Sorry to bother you but == when wiki news finally closes could you please tell me where to write articles next project? Thanks I still want to contribute elsewhere. @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] Don [[User:BigKrow|Don]] 07:45, 2 April 2026 (UTC) : If there is a next project, I'm sure it will be made known in the Water cooler. It looks like there are a couple of options brewing...[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:52, 2 April 2026 (UTC) == [[Supreme Court of Finland convicts individuals and institutions involved in writing and publishing pamphlet for inciting hatred against gays and lesbians]] == Hello, Michael.C.Wright! Could you please remove the page protection from the article so that I can address the issues that you brought up? Thank you in advance! [[User:Justthefacts|Justthefacts]] ([[User talk:Justthefacts|talk]]) 23:23, 10 April 2026 (UTC) :It doesn't work that way... [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 00:07, 11 April 2026 (UTC) : @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] is correct. The page protection follows standard [[Wikinews:Archive conventions]] to preserve the article as a snapshot in time. Articles are not intended to be continuously updated and instead should be complete at publication. In this case, however, a full review was not conducted and significant issues were not resolved prior to publication, requiring post-publication correction. : The publishing reviewer appears to be [[User talk:Gryllida#c-Gryllida-20260406231200-Michael.C.Wright-20260406125900|checked out]] of the project. I would still prefer to allow time for them to respond before taking further action. They tend to keep an eye on this page and may yet weigh in either here or at the [[Wikinews:Deletion requests#Supreme Court of Finland convicts individuals and institutions involved in writing and publishing pamphlet for inciting hatred against gays and lesbians|retraction request]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 01:11, 11 April 2026 (UTC) == Thank You == Hi [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], and thank you so much for your work on the Wind down of Wikinews and cleaning up the DPL usage. I have been following the recent changes and it's truly praiseworthy. The sheer amount you haveve accomplished is remarkable. From article reviewing to maintenance your contributions have been a constant presence since the day I joined English wikinews. I have watched you do great work here, consistently and quietly and I am not sure I ever got the chance to properly say it. So, thank you. Thank you for everything you have given to this project, and for continuing to carry out the final cleanups even as most editors have moved on. On a personal note, thank you as well for your guidance and assistance. It meant more than you might know. It's been a genuine pleasure meeting you here, and I sincerely hope our paths cross again across one of the sister projects. -- It's [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 15:45, 16 April 2026 (UTC) : Thank you for the very kind words and I too have had the pleasure of working along side you. I have heard from more than one admin and/or reviewer very good things about all the tools you developed for the project. It's a shame we didn't get an earlier start, as I do feel we could have turned the tide for the project with enough like-minded people putting in the elbow grease! : I look forward to working with you in the future and I'm sure we will.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 17:01, 16 April 2026 (UTC) 02ybdb5p3n07huamo7usj19pjxid499 0 3088290 5023162 5023026 2026-04-30T14:17:46Z ~2026-26352-42 2956966 Hi! This is the guy who wrote that one raccoon article. I feel like the migration sentence could be moved to the end? 5023162 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{nb|This article is meant to be the last article posted on Wikinews. Even if its review is completed before May 3, please do not post it before then.}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo.]] The [[m:Wikinews|Wikinews]] project was scheduled to be closed on May&nbsp;4, 2026, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including [[m:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], [[w:Wiktionary|Wiktionary]], and [[w:Wikimedia Commons|Wikimedia Commons]], which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement. We understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn't able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote}} leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews}} <!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews}} The project also adopted a [[:m:Wikinews/Logo|logo]] in February 2005 through a [[:m:Wikinews logo contest voting|community voting process]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews_logo_contest_voting}} {{Quote_box |width=45% |align=right |quote="Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape… We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." |source=[[:m:Wikinews manifesto|Wikinews manifesto]], 2004 |}} While many Wikinews articles were synthesized from other news sources, the project also posted original reporting, including interviews with people such as [[Shimon Peres discusses the future of Israel|Shimon Peres]], then-president of Israel; U.S. Senator [[Sam Brownback on running for President, gay rights, the Middle East and religion|Sam Brownback]]; journalist [[Gay Talese on the state of journalism, Iraq and his life|Gay Talese]]; and voice actor [[Billy West, voice of Ren and Stimpy, Futurama, on the rough start that shaped his life|Billy West]].{{verify|source1=https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php}} A 2005 article featuring original reporting, [[Unrest in Belize]], was cited by Wikipedia co-founder [[Jimmy Wales]] as Wikinews's first scoop.{{verify|source1=https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070}} Wikinews received some criticism over the years for not achieving success comparable to its sister project Wikipedia. In a 2010 interview, researcher {{w|Andrew Lih}} commented, "[I]t's not clear that the wiki process really gears itself towards deadlines and group narrative writing. ... And I think that is providing some kind of a tension in terms of getting Wikipedians to write for an organization such as Wikinews."{{verify|source1=https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/}} In 2013, a link to Wikinews was removed from the "In the News" section of the front page of Wikipedia,{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews}} and links to Wikinews were also removed from the Current Events portal in that year.{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links}} At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined.{{verify|source1=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html}} Discussions regarding moving the Wikinews content and community to another website were ongoing at Wikimedia's [[w:Meta-Wiki|Meta-Wiki]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts}} <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... 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Even if its review is completed before May 3, please do not post it before then.}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo.]] The [[m:Wikinews|Wikinews]] project was scheduled to be closed on May&nbsp;4, 2026, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Discussions regarding moving the Wikinews content and community to another website were ongoing at Wikimedia's [[w:Meta-Wiki|Meta-Wiki]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts}} Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including [[m:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], [[w:Wiktionary|Wiktionary]], and [[w:Wikimedia Commons|Wikimedia Commons]], which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement. We understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn't able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote}} leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews}} <!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004, alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews}} The project also adopted a [[:m:Wikinews/Logo|logo]] in February 2005 through a [[:m:Wikinews logo contest voting|community voting process]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews_logo_contest_voting}} {{Quote_box |width=45% |align=right |quote="Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape… We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." |source=[[:m:Wikinews manifesto|Wikinews manifesto]], 2004 |}} While many Wikinews articles were synthesized from other news sources, the project also posted original reporting, including interviews with people such as [[Shimon Peres discusses the future of Israel|Shimon Peres]], then-president of Israel; U.S. Senator [[Sam Brownback on running for President, gay rights, the Middle East and religion|Sam Brownback]]; journalist [[Gay Talese on the state of journalism, Iraq and his life|Gay Talese]]; and voice actor [[Billy West, voice of Ren and Stimpy, Futurama, on the rough start that shaped his life|Billy West]].{{verify|source1=https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php}} A 2005 article featuring original reporting, [[Unrest in Belize]], was cited by Wikipedia co-founder [[Jimmy Wales]] as Wikinews's first scoop.{{verify|source1=https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070}} Wikinews received some criticism over the years for not achieving success comparable to its sister project Wikipedia. In a 2010 interview, researcher {{w|Andrew Lih}} commented, "[I]t's not clear that the wiki process really gears itself towards deadlines and group narrative writing. ... And I think that is providing some kind of a tension in terms of getting Wikipedians to write for an organization such as Wikinews."{{verify|source1=https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/}} In 2013, a link to Wikinews was removed from the "In the News" section of the front page of Wikipedia,{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews}} and links to Wikinews were also removed from the Current Events portal in that year.{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links}} At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined.{{verify|source1=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html}} <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==Sources== *{{source |url = https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title = Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author = Enrico Giardina |pub = Heise Online |date = April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-10/Op-ed#It's_time_to_stop_pretending_the_English-language_Wikinews_is_a_viable_project |title = It's time to stop pretending the English-language Wikinews is a viable project |author = Adam Cuerden |pub = Wikipedia Signpost |date = July 10, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links |title = Removal of Wikinews links |author = Cenarium |pub = Wikipedia |date = July 6, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews |title = Let's remove this second, non-specific, prominent link to Wikinews |author = Tony |pub = Wikipedia |date = June 29, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/ |title = Why Wikipedia beats Wikinews as a collaborative journalism project |author = Zachary M. Seward |pub = NiemanLab |date = February 8, 2010 }} *{{source |url = https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php |title = The Wikinews Ace |author = Adam Rose |pub = Columbia Journalism Review |date = January 27, 2009 }} *{{source |url = https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/the-unassociated-press.html |title = The Unassociated Press |author = Aaron Weiss |pub = The New York Times |date = February 10, 2005 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts |title = Migration of Wikinews and future hosts |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 26, 2026 (date of access) }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 24, 2026 (date of access) }} [[Category:Wikinews]] [[Category:Wikimedia Foundation]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Journalism]] [[Category:Prepared stories]] n2fz3c4lnzmty4s0sz3t9rblfrl7hxf 5023281 5023169 2026-05-01T01:19:30Z Metropolitan90 314212 verify 5023281 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{nb|This article is meant to be the last article posted on Wikinews. Even if its review is completed before May 3, please do not post it before then.}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo.]] The [[m:Wikinews|Wikinews]] project was scheduled to be closed on May&nbsp;4, 2026, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Discussions regarding moving the Wikinews content and community to another website were ongoing at Wikimedia's [[w:Meta-Wiki|Meta-Wiki]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts}} Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including [[m:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], [[w:Wiktionary|Wiktionary]], and [[w:Wikimedia Commons|Wikimedia Commons]], which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement. We understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn't able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote}} leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews}} <!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll}} alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004. Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews}} The project also adopted a [[:m:Wikinews/Logo|logo]] in February 2005 through a [[:m:Wikinews logo contest voting|community voting process]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews_logo_contest_voting}} {{Quote_box |width=45% |align=right |quote="Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape… We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." |source=[[:m:Wikinews manifesto|Wikinews manifesto]], 2004 |}} While many Wikinews articles were synthesized from other news sources, the project also posted original reporting, including interviews with people such as [[Shimon Peres discusses the future of Israel|Shimon Peres]], then-president of Israel; U.S. Senator [[Sam Brownback on running for President, gay rights, the Middle East and religion|Sam Brownback]]; journalist [[Gay Talese on the state of journalism, Iraq and his life|Gay Talese]]; and voice actor [[Billy West, voice of Ren and Stimpy, Futurama, on the rough start that shaped his life|Billy West]].{{verify|source1=https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php}} A 2005 article featuring original reporting, [[Unrest in Belize]], was cited by Wikipedia co-founder [[Jimmy Wales]] as Wikinews's first scoop.{{verify|source1=https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070}} Wikinews received some criticism over the years for not achieving success comparable to its sister project Wikipedia. In a 2010 interview, researcher {{w|Andrew Lih}} commented, "[I]t's not clear that the wiki process really gears itself towards deadlines and group narrative writing. ... And I think that is providing some kind of a tension in terms of getting Wikipedians to write for an organization such as Wikinews."{{verify|source1=https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/}} In 2013, a link to Wikinews was removed from the "In the News" section of the front page of Wikipedia,{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews}} and links to Wikinews were also removed from the Current Events portal in that year.{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links}} At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined.{{verify|source1=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html}} <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==Sources== *{{source |url = https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title = Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author = Enrico Giardina |pub = Heise Online |date = April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-10/Op-ed#It's_time_to_stop_pretending_the_English-language_Wikinews_is_a_viable_project |title = It's time to stop pretending the English-language Wikinews is a viable project |author = Adam Cuerden |pub = Wikipedia Signpost |date = July 10, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links |title = Removal of Wikinews links |author = Cenarium |pub = Wikipedia |date = July 6, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews |title = Let's remove this second, non-specific, prominent link to Wikinews |author = Tony |pub = Wikipedia |date = June 29, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/ |title = Why Wikipedia beats Wikinews as a collaborative journalism project |author = Zachary M. Seward |pub = NiemanLab |date = February 8, 2010 }} *{{source |url = https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php |title = The Wikinews Ace |author = Adam Rose |pub = Columbia Journalism Review |date = January 27, 2009 }} *{{source |url = https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/the-unassociated-press.html |title = The Unassociated Press |author = Aaron Weiss |pub = The New York Times |date = February 10, 2005 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts |title = Migration of Wikinews and future hosts |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 26, 2026 (date of access) }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 24, 2026 (date of access) }} [[Category:Wikinews]] [[Category:Wikimedia Foundation]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Journalism]] [[Category:Prepared stories]] tdort9nsqr5jf61lb4henyig4fkgnv5 5023282 5023281 2026-05-01T01:22:28Z Metropolitan90 314212 verify 5023282 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{nb|This article is meant to be the last article posted on Wikinews. Even if its review is completed before May 3, please do not post it before then.}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo.]] The [[m:Wikinews|Wikinews]] project was scheduled to be closed on May&nbsp;4, 2026, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Discussions regarding moving the Wikinews content and community to another website were ongoing at Wikimedia's [[w:Meta-Wiki|Meta-Wiki]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts}} Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including [[m:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], [[w:Wiktionary|Wiktionary]], and [[w:Wikimedia Commons|Wikimedia Commons]], which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in late 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure, followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement. We understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn't able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote}} leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} <!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll}} alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} The project also adopted a [[:m:Wikinews/Logo|logo]] in February 2005 through a [[:m:Wikinews logo contest voting|community voting process]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews_logo_contest_voting}} {{Quote_box |width=45% |align=right |quote="Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape… We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." |source=[[:m:Wikinews manifesto|Wikinews manifesto]], 2004 |}} While many Wikinews articles were synthesized from other news sources, the project also posted original reporting, including interviews with people such as [[Shimon Peres discusses the future of Israel|Shimon Peres]], then-president of Israel; U.S. Senator [[Sam Brownback on running for President, gay rights, the Middle East and religion|Sam Brownback]]; journalist [[Gay Talese on the state of journalism, Iraq and his life|Gay Talese]]; and voice actor [[Billy West, voice of Ren and Stimpy, Futurama, on the rough start that shaped his life|Billy West]].{{verify|source1=https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php}} A 2005 article featuring original reporting, [[Unrest in Belize]], was cited by Wikipedia co-founder [[Jimmy Wales]] as Wikinews's first scoop.{{verify|source1=https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070}} Wikinews received some criticism over the years for not achieving success comparable to its sister project Wikipedia. In a 2010 interview, researcher {{w|Andrew Lih}} commented, "[I]t's not clear that the wiki process really gears itself towards deadlines and group narrative writing. ... And I think that is providing some kind of a tension in terms of getting Wikipedians to write for an organization such as Wikinews."{{verify|source1=https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/}} In 2013, a link to Wikinews was removed from the "In the News" section of the front page of Wikipedia,{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews}} and links to Wikinews were also removed from the Current Events portal in that year.{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links}} At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined.{{verify|source1=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html}} <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==Sources== *{{source |url = https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title = Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author = Enrico Giardina |pub = Heise Online |date = April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-10/Op-ed#It's_time_to_stop_pretending_the_English-language_Wikinews_is_a_viable_project |title = It's time to stop pretending the English-language Wikinews is a viable project |author = Adam Cuerden |pub = Wikipedia Signpost |date = July 10, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links |title = Removal of Wikinews links |author = Cenarium |pub = Wikipedia |date = July 6, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews |title = Let's remove this second, non-specific, prominent link to Wikinews |author = Tony |pub = Wikipedia |date = June 29, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/ |title = Why Wikipedia beats Wikinews as a collaborative journalism project |author = Zachary M. Seward |pub = NiemanLab |date = February 8, 2010 }} *{{source |url = https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php |title = The Wikinews Ace |author = Adam Rose |pub = Columbia Journalism Review |date = January 27, 2009 }} *{{source |url = https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/the-unassociated-press.html |title = The Unassociated Press |author = Aaron Weiss |pub = The New York Times |date = February 10, 2005 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts |title = Migration of Wikinews and future hosts |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 26, 2026 (date of access) }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 24, 2026 (date of access) }} [[Category:Wikinews]] [[Category:Wikimedia Foundation]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Journalism]] [[Category:Prepared stories]] jfykddws1lf38byv7vo1eegmsxtyd0u 5023283 5023282 2026-05-01T01:27:20Z Metropolitan90 314212 June is not "late" 2025 5023283 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{nb|This article is meant to be the last article posted on Wikinews. Even if its review is completed before May 3, please do not post it before then.}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo.]] The [[m:Wikinews|Wikinews]] project was scheduled to be closed on May&nbsp;4, 2026, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Discussions regarding moving the Wikinews content and community to another website were ongoing at Wikimedia's [[w:Meta-Wiki|Meta-Wiki]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts}} Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including [[m:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], [[w:Wiktionary|Wiktionary]], and [[w:Wikimedia Commons|Wikimedia Commons]], which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in June 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure,{{verify|source1=https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/|source2=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Public_consultation_about_Wikinews}} followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement. We understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn't able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote}} leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} <!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll}} alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} The project also adopted a [[:m:Wikinews/Logo|logo]] in February 2005 through a [[:m:Wikinews logo contest voting|community voting process]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews_logo_contest_voting}} {{Quote_box |width=45% |align=right |quote="Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape… We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." |source=[[:m:Wikinews manifesto|Wikinews manifesto]], 2004 |}} While many Wikinews articles were synthesized from other news sources, the project also posted original reporting, including interviews with people such as [[Shimon Peres discusses the future of Israel|Shimon Peres]], then-president of Israel; U.S. Senator [[Sam Brownback on running for President, gay rights, the Middle East and religion|Sam Brownback]]; journalist [[Gay Talese on the state of journalism, Iraq and his life|Gay Talese]]; and voice actor [[Billy West, voice of Ren and Stimpy, Futurama, on the rough start that shaped his life|Billy West]].{{verify|source1=https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php}} A 2005 article featuring original reporting, [[Unrest in Belize]], was cited by Wikipedia co-founder [[Jimmy Wales]] as Wikinews's first scoop.{{verify|source1=https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070}} Wikinews received some criticism over the years for not achieving success comparable to its sister project Wikipedia. In a 2010 interview, researcher {{w|Andrew Lih}} commented, "[I]t's not clear that the wiki process really gears itself towards deadlines and group narrative writing. ... And I think that is providing some kind of a tension in terms of getting Wikipedians to write for an organization such as Wikinews."{{verify|source1=https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/}} In 2013, a link to Wikinews was removed from the "In the News" section of the front page of Wikipedia,{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews}} and links to Wikinews were also removed from the Current Events portal in that year.{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links}} At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined.{{verify|source1=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html}} <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==Sources== *{{source |url = https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title = Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author = Enrico Giardina |pub = Heise Online |date = April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/ |title = Wikimedia Foundation considers closing Wikinews |author = Matthew Keys |pub = TheDesk.net |date = July 11, 2025}} }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-10/Op-ed#It's_time_to_stop_pretending_the_English-language_Wikinews_is_a_viable_project |title = It's time to stop pretending the English-language Wikinews is a viable project |author = Adam Cuerden |pub = Wikipedia Signpost |date = July 10, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links |title = Removal of Wikinews links |author = Cenarium |pub = Wikipedia |date = July 6, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews |title = Let's remove this second, non-specific, prominent link to Wikinews |author = Tony |pub = Wikipedia |date = June 29, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/ |title = Why Wikipedia beats Wikinews as a collaborative journalism project |author = Zachary M. Seward |pub = NiemanLab |date = February 8, 2010 }} *{{source |url = https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php |title = The Wikinews Ace |author = Adam Rose |pub = Columbia Journalism Review |date = January 27, 2009 }} *{{source |url = https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/the-unassociated-press.html |title = The Unassociated Press |author = Aaron Weiss |pub = The New York Times |date = February 10, 2005 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts |title = Migration of Wikinews and future hosts |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 26, 2026 (date of access) }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 24, 2026 (date of access) }} [[Category:Wikinews]] [[Category:Wikimedia Foundation]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Journalism]] [[Category:Prepared stories]] ma2qk2yshqsfjzmmpu94kew2cjffj26 5023284 5023283 2026-05-01T01:27:47Z Metropolitan90 314212 /* Sources */ -}} 5023284 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{nb|This article is meant to be the last article posted on Wikinews. Even if its review is completed before May 3, please do not post it before then.}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo.]] The [[m:Wikinews|Wikinews]] project was scheduled to be closed on May&nbsp;4, 2026, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Discussions regarding moving the Wikinews content and community to another website were ongoing at Wikimedia's [[w:Meta-Wiki|Meta-Wiki]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts}} Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including [[m:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], [[w:Wiktionary|Wiktionary]], and [[w:Wikimedia Commons|Wikimedia Commons]], which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in June 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure,{{verify|source1=https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/|source2=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Public_consultation_about_Wikinews}} followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement. We understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn't able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote}} leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} <!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll}} alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} The project also adopted a [[:m:Wikinews/Logo|logo]] in February 2005 through a [[:m:Wikinews logo contest voting|community voting process]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews_logo_contest_voting}} {{Quote_box |width=45% |align=right |quote="Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape… We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." |source=[[:m:Wikinews manifesto|Wikinews manifesto]], 2004 |}} While many Wikinews articles were synthesized from other news sources, the project also posted original reporting, including interviews with people such as [[Shimon Peres discusses the future of Israel|Shimon Peres]], then-president of Israel; U.S. Senator [[Sam Brownback on running for President, gay rights, the Middle East and religion|Sam Brownback]]; journalist [[Gay Talese on the state of journalism, Iraq and his life|Gay Talese]]; and voice actor [[Billy West, voice of Ren and Stimpy, Futurama, on the rough start that shaped his life|Billy West]].{{verify|source1=https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php}} A 2005 article featuring original reporting, [[Unrest in Belize]], was cited by Wikipedia co-founder [[Jimmy Wales]] as Wikinews's first scoop.{{verify|source1=https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070}} Wikinews received some criticism over the years for not achieving success comparable to its sister project Wikipedia. In a 2010 interview, researcher {{w|Andrew Lih}} commented, "[I]t's not clear that the wiki process really gears itself towards deadlines and group narrative writing. ... And I think that is providing some kind of a tension in terms of getting Wikipedians to write for an organization such as Wikinews."{{verify|source1=https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/}} In 2013, a link to Wikinews was removed from the "In the News" section of the front page of Wikipedia,{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews}} and links to Wikinews were also removed from the Current Events portal in that year.{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links}} At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined.{{verify|source1=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html}} <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==Sources== *{{source |url = https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title = Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author = Enrico Giardina |pub = Heise Online |date = April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/ |title = Wikimedia Foundation considers closing Wikinews |author = Matthew Keys |pub = TheDesk.net |date = July 11, 2025 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-10/Op-ed#It's_time_to_stop_pretending_the_English-language_Wikinews_is_a_viable_project |title = It's time to stop pretending the English-language Wikinews is a viable project |author = Adam Cuerden |pub = Wikipedia Signpost |date = July 10, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links |title = Removal of Wikinews links |author = Cenarium |pub = Wikipedia |date = July 6, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews |title = Let's remove this second, non-specific, prominent link to Wikinews |author = Tony |pub = Wikipedia |date = June 29, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/ |title = Why Wikipedia beats Wikinews as a collaborative journalism project |author = Zachary M. Seward |pub = NiemanLab |date = February 8, 2010 }} *{{source |url = https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php |title = The Wikinews Ace |author = Adam Rose |pub = Columbia Journalism Review |date = January 27, 2009 }} *{{source |url = https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/the-unassociated-press.html |title = The Unassociated Press |author = Aaron Weiss |pub = The New York Times |date = February 10, 2005 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts |title = Migration of Wikinews and future hosts |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 26, 2026 (date of access) }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 24, 2026 (date of access) }} [[Category:Wikinews]] [[Category:Wikimedia Foundation]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Journalism]] [[Category:Prepared stories]] a7rs2gssm0wvyujct78hjou0k4rjw66 5023288 5023284 2026-05-01T01:42:53Z Metropolitan90 314212 /* Sources */ add cat 5023288 wikitext text/x-wiki {{review}} {{nb|This article is meant to be the last article posted on Wikinews. Even if its review is completed before May 3, please do not post it before then.}} {{WikimediaMention}} [[File:Wikinews-logo.png|right|220px|thumb|Logo of Wikinews, adopted by the community through a [[meta:Wikinews logo contest voting|logo contest]] held in January–February 2005. It replaced the [[:File:Wikinews logo.png|beta version]] logo.]] The [[m:Wikinews|Wikinews]] project was scheduled to be closed on May&nbsp;4, 2026, after the [[meta:Wikimedia Foundation/Board of Trustees|Board of Trustees]] of the [[Wikimedia Foundation]] announced on March&nbsp;30 its final decision to close all language editions of the project. Discussions regarding moving the Wikinews content and community to another website were ongoing at Wikimedia's [[w:Meta-Wiki|Meta-Wiki]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts}} Wikinews was a sister project of other Wikimedia initiatives, including [[m:Wikipedia|Wikipedia]], [[w:Wiktionary|Wiktionary]], and [[w:Wikimedia Commons|Wikimedia Commons]], which support the dissemination of free knowledge and media. The future of Wikinews was raised for consideration in June 2025, with a Wikimedia Foundation task force recommending the project's closure,{{verify|source1=https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/|source2=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Public_consultation_about_Wikinews}} followed by [[meta:Public consultation about Wikinews|a period of public consultation about Wikinews]]. After this process, the Board announced in March 2026 that the 31 active editions of Wikinews would be placed in read-only mode indefinitely. In the announcement message, trustee [[meta:User:Victoria|Victoria Doronina]] said, "We thank all contributors who have participated in Wikinews over the years and helped build a unique experiment in collaborative journalism within the Wikimedia movement. We understand that some of them might be disappointed by this decision. To our regret, the project wasn't able to fulfil its promise, and many of its functions were eclipsed by the notable news coverage in Wikipedias." Wikinews launched in November 2004. It was first proposed by an anonymous contributor in January 2003<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikinews/Archive&diff=prev&oldid=4306 --> and faced a community vote that ended 151 yea and 59 nay,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote}} leading to the first demo going live in October 2004.<!-- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Vote --> The English-language Wikinews was formally created December&nbsp;2 of that year, with German following one day later.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} <!--Context of blogs, citizen journalism (e.g. Occupy, Indymedia, blogger's bill of rights)--> The project's early development followed a series of community discussions and milestones in late 2004 and early 2005. A [[meta:Wikinews/License straw poll|non-binding straw poll]] on content licensing began on October 26, 2004,{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll}} alongside discussions on the project's scope and policies. The initial demo site, hosted at ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20041117013229/http://demo.wikinews.org/wiki/Main_Page demo.wikinews.org]'', was later moved to the English Wikinews domain on December 2, 2004.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} Following the launch of the English and German editions in December 2004, additional language editions were created in early 2005, including Dutch, French, Swedish, Spanish, Bulgarian, Polish, Romanian, and Portuguese.{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews#History}} The project also adopted a [[:m:Wikinews/Logo|logo]] in February 2005 through a [[:m:Wikinews logo contest voting|community voting process]].{{verify|source1=https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews_logo_contest_voting}} {{Quote_box |width=45% |align=right |quote="Wikinews is founded on the idea that we want to create something new, rather than destroy something old. It is founded on the belief that we can, together, build a great and unique resource which will enrich the media landscape… We seek to promote the idea of the citizen journalist, because we believe that everyone can make a useful contribution to painting the big picture of what is happening in the world around us." |source=[[:m:Wikinews manifesto|Wikinews manifesto]], 2004 |}} While many Wikinews articles were synthesized from other news sources, the project also posted original reporting, including interviews with people such as [[Shimon Peres discusses the future of Israel|Shimon Peres]], then-president of Israel; U.S. Senator [[Sam Brownback on running for President, gay rights, the Middle East and religion|Sam Brownback]]; journalist [[Gay Talese on the state of journalism, Iraq and his life|Gay Talese]]; and voice actor [[Billy West, voice of Ren and Stimpy, Futurama, on the rough start that shaped his life|Billy West]].{{verify|source1=https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php}} A 2005 article featuring original reporting, [[Unrest in Belize]], was cited by Wikipedia co-founder [[Jimmy Wales]] as Wikinews's first scoop.{{verify|source1=https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070}} Wikinews received some criticism over the years for not achieving success comparable to its sister project Wikipedia. In a 2010 interview, researcher {{w|Andrew Lih}} commented, "[I]t's not clear that the wiki process really gears itself towards deadlines and group narrative writing. ... And I think that is providing some kind of a tension in terms of getting Wikipedians to write for an organization such as Wikinews."{{verify|source1=https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/}} In 2013, a link to Wikinews was removed from the "In the News" section of the front page of Wikipedia,{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews}} and links to Wikinews were also removed from the Current Events portal in that year.{{verify|source1=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links}} At the time that the closure of Wikinews was announced, there were reportedly only about 700 active editors among all 31 language editions combined.{{verify|source1=https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html}} <!--Expansion of editions, original reporting, experiments with spoken/print editions, press coverage (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/Press_coverage), licensing changes, expansion of sr.wn and ru.wn, creation of Wikinewsie group, launch of WikiTribune and Infobitt, dpl breaking, task force review/vote--> <!--Get interviews with key Wikinewsies--> <!--https://diff.wikimedia.org/2025/06/27/community-consultation-about-the-wikispore-and-wikinews/--> <!--Per talk: History Visualization of articles by Overview of past research Greatest hits (Some interviews and other facts from Wikinews and the broad range of featured and classic articles) Wikinews investigates... Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff; Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Wikinews interviews... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, Trischa Zorn, Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... Past projects or services Accreditation Interview series Education Photo essays; POTY and spinoffs--> ==Sources== *{{source |url = https://www.heise.de/en/news/Wikimedia-Foundation-is-shutting-down-news-project-Wikinews-11249432.html |title = Wikimedia Foundation is shutting down news project Wikinews |author = Enrico Giardina |pub = Heise Online |date = April 8, 2026}} *{{source |url = https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/XOP5OXEYO2XLQJNGFJHCYOPJT5LPTF7P/ |title = &#91;Wikimedia-l&#93; Board of Trustees Approves Closure of Wikinews |author = Victoria Doronina |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = March 30, 2026 }} *{{source |url = https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/ |title = Wikimedia Foundation considers closing Wikinews |author = Matthew Keys |pub = TheDesk.net |date = July 11, 2025 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2013-07-10/Op-ed#It's_time_to_stop_pretending_the_English-language_Wikinews_is_a_viable_project |title = It's time to stop pretending the English-language Wikinews is a viable project |author = Adam Cuerden |pub = Wikipedia Signpost |date = July 10, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_talk:Current_events/Archive_7#Removal_of_Wikinews_links |title = Removal of Wikinews links |author = Cenarium |pub = Wikipedia |date = July 6, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_176#Let.27s_remove_this_second.2C_non-specific.2C_prominent_link_to_Wikinews |title = Let's remove this second, non-specific, prominent link to Wikinews |author = Tony |pub = Wikipedia |date = June 29, 2013 }} *{{source |url = https://www.niemanlab.org/2010/02/why-wikipedia-beats-wikinews-as-a-collaborative-journalism-project/ |title = Why Wikipedia beats Wikinews as a collaborative journalism project |author = Zachary M. Seward |pub = NiemanLab |date = February 8, 2010 }} *{{source |url = https://www.cjr.org/on_the_job/the_wikinews_ace.php |title = The Wikinews Ace |author = Adam Rose |pub = Columbia Journalism Review |date = January 27, 2009 }} *{{source |url = https://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/the-unassociated-press.html |title = The Unassociated Press |author = Aaron Weiss |pub = The New York Times |date = February 10, 2005 |archiveurl = https://web.archive.org/web/20090415232051/http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/technology/circuits/10wiki.html?ex=1177300800&en=024e251d2c696137&ei=5070 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews/License_straw_poll |title = Wikinews/License straw poll |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = October 26, 2004 }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Migration_of_Wikinews_and_future_hosts |title = Migration of Wikinews and future hosts |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 26, 2026 (date of access) }} *{{source |url = https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikinews |title = Wikinews |author = |pub = Wikimedia Foundation |date = April 24, 2026 (date of access) }} [[Category:Wikinews]] [[Category:Wikimedia Foundation]] [[Category:Internet]] [[Category:Journalism]] [[Category:Science and technology]] [[Category:Prepared stories]] 5gx40zdx3tuus9x8t5h1wrz9kg9qdgd 1 3088310 5023155 5018798 2026-04-30T13:40:23Z Michael.C.Wright 1936983 /* Review time */ new topic ([[mw:c:Special:MyLanguage/User:JWBTH/CD|CD]]) 5023155 wikitext text/x-wiki == This article is to be posted later == Please don't publish this article before 3 May 2026. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 03:35, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I would like to politely request that the last edits on this site (for now) are posting and reviewing this article. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::I hope our reviewers will be able to handle this. Pinging @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], and @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]. I assume we could make some exceptions for this, given that it may be one of our last published articles. whatever those exceptions may be. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I don't see why I wouldn't be available for this. I'm on a Wikibreak until April 9, after which I expect to return to my normal availability.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:08, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::I will keep an eye, so that I can point out problems immediately, and review shouldn't take much time. Let's keep the publishing time as May 3, 00:00 UTC.<br> [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:42, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] "last edits on this site for now" -- Do you mean no more edits unrelated to editing, reviewing and publishing this article on Wikinews whatsoever? Or no more edits after its publication on May 4? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:38, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::After publication. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:16, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Okay, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:37, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Possible material == A fine idea. In addition to a summary of what is happening (on en, in other languages, with migration), would it be appropriate to include a very abridged history of Wikinews that covers past highlights, or links out to a "History of" page here? For instance: '''History''' : Visualization of articles by [[Category:News articles by section|section]] : Overview of past [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=2007&q=wikinews&btnG= research] '''Greatest hits''' (Some interviews and other facts from [[w:Wikinews|Wikinews]] and the broad range of featured and classic articles) : ''Wikinews investigates''... [[Wikinews investigates Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff members|Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff]]; [[Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Council to review clause affecting live music scene|Petition pressures City of Edinburgh]] : ''Wikinews interviews''... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, [[Wikinews_interviews_winner_of_55_Paralympic_medals,_Trischa_Zorn|Trischa Zorn]], Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... '''Past projects or services''' : Accreditation : Interview series : [[Wikinews:Education|Education]] : [[Wikinews:Writing_a_Photo_essay|Photo essays]]; POTY and [[Wikinews:Polish_Wikinews_Press_Photo_2011|spinoffs]] [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:05, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ==Sources== I am hoping that some news source outside the Wikimedia organiation will take notice of the closing of Wikinews (which could be cited as a source for this article). So far I have not found any coverage. For contrast, when the Internet Movie Database shut down its message boards, that did receive news coverage ([https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/films/news/imdb-message-boards-shut-down-why-films-a7562701.html The Independent], [https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/imdb/rip-imdb-message-boards Paste Magazine]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :I did find [https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/1s7ujpr/all_wikinews_projects_will_be_closed_on_may_4/] this which is unhelpful but interesting.. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:59, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :All I can find is [https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/ this piece from The Desk] on the earlier closure proposal, which is a site I'd never heard of before, but [https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/wikimedia-foundation-considers-closing-wikinews/ar-AA1Ir0A0 MSN seems to think it's worth reproducing]. Otherwise, it's the occasional message board. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Content proportion of the article == The considerable controversy should at least be mentioned, with various Wikimedia pages you can read. We could even present it as an original report? an example is [[:w:n:zh:维基新闻项目面临“软关闭”]] from the Chinese Wikinews. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 03:11, 26 April 2026 (UTC) == Review time == My week got very busy IRL. If another reviewer can review this article, it would be much appreciated. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]], @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]], @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] I may have time on Sunday, but no guarantees. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:40, 30 April 2026 (UTC) arrrpl1u1wsd6vmr8rxcj5hwsi2svt1 5023164 5023155 2026-04-30T14:23:50Z ~2026-26352-42 2956966 Adding Pre-Review (via [[MediaWiki:SubmitWizard.js/doc|SubmitWizard]]) 5023164 wikitext text/x-wiki == This article is to be posted later == Please don't publish this article before 3 May 2026. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 03:35, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I would like to politely request that the last edits on this site (for now) are posting and reviewing this article. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::I hope our reviewers will be able to handle this. Pinging @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], and @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]. I assume we could make some exceptions for this, given that it may be one of our last published articles. whatever those exceptions may be. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I don't see why I wouldn't be available for this. I'm on a Wikibreak until April 9, after which I expect to return to my normal availability.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:08, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::I will keep an eye, so that I can point out problems immediately, and review shouldn't take much time. Let's keep the publishing time as May 3, 00:00 UTC.<br> [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:42, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] "last edits on this site for now" -- Do you mean no more edits unrelated to editing, reviewing and publishing this article on Wikinews whatsoever? Or no more edits after its publication on May 4? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:38, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::After publication. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:16, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Okay, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:37, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Possible material == A fine idea. In addition to a summary of what is happening (on en, in other languages, with migration), would it be appropriate to include a very abridged history of Wikinews that covers past highlights, or links out to a "History of" page here? For instance: '''History''' : Visualization of articles by [[Category:News articles by section|section]] : Overview of past [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=2007&q=wikinews&btnG= research] '''Greatest hits''' (Some interviews and other facts from [[w:Wikinews|Wikinews]] and the broad range of featured and classic articles) : ''Wikinews investigates''... [[Wikinews investigates Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff members|Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff]]; [[Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Council to review clause affecting live music scene|Petition pressures City of Edinburgh]] : ''Wikinews interviews''... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, [[Wikinews_interviews_winner_of_55_Paralympic_medals,_Trischa_Zorn|Trischa Zorn]], Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... '''Past projects or services''' : Accreditation : Interview series : [[Wikinews:Education|Education]] : [[Wikinews:Writing_a_Photo_essay|Photo essays]]; POTY and [[Wikinews:Polish_Wikinews_Press_Photo_2011|spinoffs]] [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:05, 3 April 2026 (UTC) ==Sources== I am hoping that some news source outside the Wikimedia organiation will take notice of the closing of Wikinews (which could be cited as a source for this article). So far I have not found any coverage. For contrast, when the Internet Movie Database shut down its message boards, that did receive news coverage ([https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/films/news/imdb-message-boards-shut-down-why-films-a7562701.html The Independent], [https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/imdb/rip-imdb-message-boards Paste Magazine]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :I did find [https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/1s7ujpr/all_wikinews_projects_will_be_closed_on_may_4/] this which is unhelpful but interesting.. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:59, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :All I can find is [https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/ this piece from The Desk] on the earlier closure proposal, which is a site I'd never heard of before, but [https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/wikimedia-foundation-considers-closing-wikinews/ar-AA1Ir0A0 MSN seems to think it's worth reproducing]. Otherwise, it's the occasional message board. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Content proportion of the article == The considerable controversy should at least be mentioned, with various Wikimedia pages you can read. We could even present it as an original report? an example is [[:w:n:zh:维基新闻项目面临“软关闭”]] from the Chinese Wikinews. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 03:11, 26 April 2026 (UTC) == Review time == My week got very busy IRL. If another reviewer can review this article, it would be much appreciated. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]], @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]], @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] I may have time on Sunday, but no guarantees. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:40, 30 April 2026 (UTC) == Pre Review by ~2026-26352-42 == {{Pre-review |evaluated-url=https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews_closes_after_21_years&oldid=5023162 |status=flag |updated= |copyright=pass |earwig-permalink= |newsworthy=pass |verifiable=fail |npov=pass |style=pass |author-notes=Maybe consider adding more sources for the beginning. Anyway, other than that, this is a really good article. |reviewer-notes= |updated-notes= }} --[[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-26352-42|&#126;2026-26352-42]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-26352-42|talk]]) 14:23, 30 April 2026 (UTC) hq7go9rzmi5v9gux9jctmiqddy9rtqs 5023167 5023164 2026-04-30T14:30:30Z ~2026-26352-42 2956966 /* Possible material */ Reply 5023167 wikitext text/x-wiki == This article is to be posted later == Please don't publish this article before 3 May 2026. -- [[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 03:35, 31 March 2026 (UTC) :I would like to politely request that the last edits on this site (for now) are posting and reviewing this article. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:38, 31 March 2026 (UTC) ::I hope our reviewers will be able to handle this. Pinging @[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]], @[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]], and @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]]. I assume we could make some exceptions for this, given that it may be one of our last published articles. whatever those exceptions may be. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 06:42, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::: I don't see why I wouldn't be available for this. I'm on a Wikibreak until April 9, after which I expect to return to my normal availability.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 07:08, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::I will keep an eye, so that I can point out problems immediately, and review shouldn't take much time. Let's keep the publishing time as May 3, 00:00 UTC.<br> [[User talk:Acagastya|<span style="color: #000; box-shadow: 0 0 7px #5de; padding-left:2.5px; padding-right:2.5px; border-radius:10px;">•&ndash;•</span>]] 09:42, 2 April 2026 (UTC) ::@[[User:Koavf|Koavf]] "last edits on this site for now" -- Do you mean no more edits unrelated to editing, reviewing and publishing this article on Wikinews whatsoever? Or no more edits after its publication on May 4? [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 15:38, 1 April 2026 (UTC) :::After publication. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 16:16, 1 April 2026 (UTC) ::::Okay, thanks [[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]] ([[User talk:Lofi Gurl|talk]]) 16:37, 1 April 2026 (UTC) == Possible material == A fine idea. In addition to a summary of what is happening (on en, in other languages, with migration), would it be appropriate to include a very abridged history of Wikinews that covers past highlights, or links out to a "History of" page here? For instance: '''History''' : Visualization of articles by [[Category:News articles by section|section]] : Overview of past [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=2007&q=wikinews&btnG= research] '''Greatest hits''' (Some interviews and other facts from [[w:Wikinews|Wikinews]] and the broad range of featured and classic articles) : ''Wikinews investigates''... [[Wikinews investigates Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff members|Wikipedia usage by U.S. Senate staff]]; [[Petition pressures City of Edinburgh Council to review clause affecting live music scene|Petition pressures City of Edinburgh]] : ''Wikinews interviews''... Shimon Peres, Dr. Sara Seager, Jack Herrick, [[Wikinews_interviews_winner_of_55_Paralympic_medals,_Trischa_Zorn|Trischa Zorn]], Gary Johnson, 2000th featured WP article authors, DuckDuckGo, WWW co-inventor Robert Cailliau, Rick Falkvinge, Al Sharpton, Domas, ... '''Past projects or services''' : Accreditation : Interview series : [[Wikinews:Education|Education]] : [[Wikinews:Writing_a_Photo_essay|Photo essays]]; POTY and [[Wikinews:Polish_Wikinews_Press_Photo_2011|spinoffs]] [[User:Sj|sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 01:05, 3 April 2026 (UTC) :I agree, it’d be nice to have at least a brief timeline. After all, this is going to be the last Wikinews article, so it really has to show the spirit of the WN community. [[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-26352-42|&#126;2026-26352-42]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-26352-42|talk]]) 14:30, 30 April 2026 (UTC) ==Sources== I am hoping that some news source outside the Wikimedia organiation will take notice of the closing of Wikinews (which could be cited as a source for this article). So far I have not found any coverage. For contrast, when the Internet Movie Database shut down its message boards, that did receive news coverage ([https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/films/news/imdb-message-boards-shut-down-why-films-a7562701.html The Independent], [https://www.pastemagazine.com/movies/imdb/rip-imdb-message-boards Paste Magazine]). --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] ([[User talk:Metropolitan90|talk]]) 20:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :I did find [https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/1s7ujpr/all_wikinews_projects_will_be_closed_on_may_4/] this which is unhelpful but interesting.. [[User:Tduk|Tduk]] ([[User talk:Tduk|talk]]) 22:59, 5 April 2026 (UTC) :All I can find is [https://thedesk.net/2025/07/wikimedia-foundation-closing-wikinews/ this piece from The Desk] on the earlier closure proposal, which is a site I'd never heard of before, but [https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/wikimedia-foundation-considers-closing-wikinews/ar-AA1Ir0A0 MSN seems to think it's worth reproducing]. Otherwise, it's the occasional message board. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:29, 5 April 2026 (UTC) == Content proportion of the article == The considerable controversy should at least be mentioned, with various Wikimedia pages you can read. We could even present it as an original report? an example is [[:w:n:zh:维基新闻项目面临“软关闭”]] from the Chinese Wikinews. ~ [[User:Sheminghui.WU|Sheminghui.WU]] ([[User talk:Sheminghui.WU|talk]]) 03:11, 26 April 2026 (UTC) == Review time == My week got very busy IRL. If another reviewer can review this article, it would be much appreciated. @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:RockerballAustralia|RockerballAustralia]], @[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]], @[[User:Bddpaux|Bddpaux]] I may have time on Sunday, but no guarantees. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 13:40, 30 April 2026 (UTC) == Pre Review by ~2026-26352-42 == {{Pre-review |evaluated-url=https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=Wikinews_closes_after_21_years&oldid=5023162 |status=flag |updated= |copyright=pass |earwig-permalink= |newsworthy=pass |verifiable=fail |npov=pass |style=pass |author-notes=Maybe consider adding more sources for the beginning. Anyway, other than that, this is a really good article. |reviewer-notes= |updated-notes= }} --[[Special:Contributions/&#126;2026-26352-42|&#126;2026-26352-42]] ([[User talk:&#126;2026-26352-42|talk]]) 14:23, 30 April 2026 (UTC) tv2lb344ilaaeqovnhjuecubgc1lwzu 5 3092016 5023569 5009392 2026-05-01T10:28:28Z Star walker 2869397 probably good idea 5023569 wikitext text/x-wiki == Bot to convert DPL to static lists == @[[User:Koavf|Koavf]], thanks for [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421796#11825297 the link] to the Phabricator conversation. Are you comfortable running the bot mentioned by [[User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]]? I've personally never used a bot. We'd also have to get bot+admin privileges, and possibly flood? That may take some time to get approved by the community and implemented by one of our 'crats (or a steward if neither respond). If its possible, we should get a manual test run as a proof-of-concept first, as it will impact nearly every single published article. Will it produce output of some sort, some where, so we can tell what pages were affected? I'd imagine we want to hold of on changing pages such as Main page, Newsroom, etc until the last minute if we could. [[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 19:29, 15 April 2026 (UTC) :Tragically, I am too ignorant to run the bot, but to answer just one of your good questions, yes, anyone running it should have a flood flag. I'd recommend posting to Phab and asking if a user there is competent to run the bot. :/ —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 19:59, 15 April 2026 (UTC) :: You may have seen my conversation with @[[User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]] at the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T421796#11832371 Phab ticket]. I'm not quite sure of what they meant when they said this: "I wouldn't go through the normal process of access bot rights and co. This is a technical change." :: Do you? :: I don't see how they ''won't'' need admin rights or flood rights, unless they throttle it to avoid flooding, but that doesn't address fully protected pages (which many are). :: We may still need the bot to handle the [[Wikinews:Archives]] if the bot is somehow able to convert the DPL output to clean, static output. See [[#Our Archives|convo below]].[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:39, 17 April 2026 (UTC) == Our Archives == The archives at [[Wikinews:Archives]] are heavily dependent on DPL. I'm not sure how to handle that cleanly and quickly. {{tl|DateDPL}} is a key culprit. Any thoughts @[[User:Bawolff|Bawolff]], @[[User:Asked42|Asked42]], @[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]], @[[User:Lofi Gurl|Lofi Gurl]], @[[User:Acagastya|Acagastya]]? One idea is to create a new, static structure that is much less elegant, but at least somewhat effective at presenting the archives. But even that, I'm not sure how to accomplish.[[User:Michael.C.Wright|Michael.C.Wright]] (^{[[User_talk:Michael.C.Wright|Talk]]}/_{[[User:Michael.C.Wright/reviewer|Reviewer]]}) 14:32, 17 April 2026 (UTC) == Delete files == Somebody should probably delete all the files in [[:Category:Media files on Wikimedia Commons]], as well as check if any other files should be moved and deleted. [[User:Star walker|Star walker]] ([[User talk:Star walker|talk]]) 10:28, 1 May 2026 (UTC) orljs3zlv3kqayj9oilbc2hzkn92c4u 3 3093920 5023313 5011959 2026-05-01T03:43:01Z AccountVanishRequests 2880969 AccountVanishRequests moved page [[User talk:Chess 2 1]] to [[User talk:Renamed user f8fe29e6c5b20541f0927db567dafbcb]] without leaving a redirect: Automatically moved page while renaming the user "[[Special:CentralAuth/Chess 2 1|Chess 2 1]]" to "[[Special:CentralAuth/Renamed user f8fe29e6c5b20541f0927db567dafbcb|Renamed user f8fe29e6c5b20541f0927db567dafbcb]]" 5011959 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Chess 2 1}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 14:39, 24 April 2026 (UTC) 0g4l9tqfib5bd1fxd1ygcbe952m1zy6 102 3094144 5023172 5013947 2026-04-30T14:39:37Z ~2026-26352-42 2956966 /* Where will specific reports go - to the WP discussion pages? */ Reply 5023172 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Commentary/DT}} <!-- Leave this line alone. --> == Where will specific reports go - to the WP discussion pages? == The [[m:Proposal for Closing Wikinews|"Proposal for Closing Wikinews"]] ("Channelling the Community’s Efforts"), "by Wikimedia staff", states: ''"People interested in curating newsworthy content might enjoy working with the curation of the Main Page on the various Wikipedias."'', and continues: ''"The English Wikipedia [[w:en:Portal:Current events|news portal]] offers a feed that is categorized topic-wise and refers to articles on Wikipedia that have massive contributions."''. At first glance, this "channeling the community’s efforts" proposal seems to be in direct conflict with [[w:en:WP:NOTNEWS|this policy]]: ''"Wikipedia is not a newspaper."''. Where will specific reports (not the ''topics'' to which the WP articles are devoted), and their discussions, go - to the WP discussion pages? [[User:Don Stroud|Don Stroud]] ([[User talk:Don Stroud|talk]]) 21:45, 25 April 2026 (UTC) :I don’t think this necessarily violates that policy, because it’s just a metaphor for “don’t add articles about small stuff that isn’t notable/people notable for one thing only (with small exceptions).” The Current Events portal just advertises articles about current events which are already found to be notable enough. 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I’m mostly active as Moonlinerman790, but sometimes I have to edit at school, and they block the WMF login website :( Around here, I’ve written the article [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|“Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage”]] under a different temporary account. I can only edit in Wikinews because some stupid kids at my school decided to add memes to random articles." 5023166 wikitext text/x-wiki Hi! I’m mostly active as Moonlinerman790, but sometimes I have to edit at school, and they block the WMF login website :( Around here, I’ve written the article [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|“Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage”]] under a different temporary account. I can only edit in Wikinews because some stupid kids at my school decided to add memes to random articles. 4v3pi78iw39wuyou9t7is2hfspr3gw4 5023168 5023166 2026-04-30T14:35:25Z ~2026-26352-42 2956966 5023168 wikitext text/x-wiki Hi! I’m mostly active as Moonlinerman790, but sometimes I have to edit at school, and they block the WMF login website :( Around here, I’ve written the article [[Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage|“Raccoon found passed out in liquor store after drunken rampage”]] under a different temporary account. I can only edit in Wikinews because some stupid kids at my school decided to add memes to random articles. {{userbox | id = [[File:Wikinews-barnstar-2025-mini.png|40px]] | info = ''This user (under a different account) was the original author of the [[Wikinews:2025 Boost publication rate/Monthly top article|top article]] for {{#time:F|{{#time:2025-12-d|-1 month}}}}, 2025'' | border-s = 1 }} nx1s4twzo3u38j3emawxezn6e34je5s 3 3094996 5023171 2026-04-30T14:38:16Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5023171 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Temirlan20}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 14:38, 30 April 2026 (UTC) 81dnb0a9a2z9oh4wg87z9vp1y0vk293 3 3094997 5023173 2026-04-30T14:40:49Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5023173 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Dencrypt}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 14:40, 30 April 2026 (UTC) o2yzcwurnv4jokfn051b9unlirhstvm 3 3094998 5023175 2026-04-30T14:46:42Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5023175 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Silveirajr86}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 14:46, 30 April 2026 (UTC) ab5sasvgcdlqqi2pgyrj1xh8jzvxj81 3 3094999 5023176 2026-04-30T14:48:02Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5023176 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Amk998}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 14:48, 30 April 2026 (UTC) az4krpjju0j0g14j0wzotd9yjnxxwng 3 3095000 5023177 2026-04-30T14:49:42Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5023177 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=Amin Hussain 139}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 14:49, 30 April 2026 (UTC) lqenei2py0dk1g86mnsmlebrkeqita3 3 3095001 5023178 2026-04-30T15:01:21Z Wikinews Welcome 183942 Welcoming the newest member of the Wikinews community. 5023178 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Template:Welcome|realName=|name=John.shy ah.x}} -- [[User:Wikinews Welcome|Wikinews Welcome]] ([[User talk:Wikinews Welcome|talk]]) 15:01, 30 April 2026 (UTC) bv6xd696o32c8447ci6vqxg1jvda5w5 4 3095002 5023179 2026-04-30T15:01:42Z Revibot I 1627724 Bot: Archiving 2 threads from [[Wikinews:Water cooler/proposals]] 5023179 wikitext text/x-wiki {{Talkarchive}} == Install inline comments == https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InlineComments Could this be installed here? It would be easuer to use than the current system, where highlight is a pain to delete on visual editor, and comment is hidden on talk tab. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 10:11, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :I find it unlikely that devs will add it, considering the status of Wikinews. I support you making a ticket at [[:phab:]] if you feel like it's warranted. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 17:23, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::That would require consensus from the community. [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] ([[User talk:Codename Noreste|talk]]) 20:32, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::thatas what i am asking about. would you support installation of such an extension here? [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:43, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::Which is why I was trying to provide my vote of approval. I did make that unclear, so I apologize: while I don't know that this will be successfully implemented, I am in favor of you requesting it <em>pending others weighing in and a general consensus that others feel the same way</em>. Again, sorry for suggesting that individuals unilaterally request new features. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:39, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::::yeah i got it [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 22:03, 23 February 2026 (UTC) ::lets see if using [[:w:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation#inline_comments|enwp lever]] works. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] 20:34, 23 February 2026 (UTC) :::They [[:w:Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Proposal_to_install_the_'Inline_comments'_MediaWiki_extension_for_Draft_namespace|are being quite positive, including PHP maintainership]], and suggest development of a gadget as prototype. Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 02:59, 1 March 2026 (UTC) :Same as Justin, though the WP discussions don't seem promising. [[User:HKLionel|<span style="font-family:Montserrat;background-image:linear-gradient(90deg,#EE1C25,#BA8E23);color:transparent;background-clip:text">HKLionel</span>]] [[User talk:HKLionel|<span style="color:#EE1C25;font-size:60%">TALK</span>]] 01:53, 25 February 2026 (UTC) :Just to mention, it is not exactly like inline comments, but EzPR 2025 will include a feature called "Dynamic Marking" under the Sentence Marking section. When enabled, it will use a global gadget to load and display specific sentences that have been highlighted and marked by the reviewer on the article. :This is not fully implemented yet, the global script integration still needs to be completed. However, the idea is to provide a more dynamic approach to sentence-specific highlights and unsourced sentence marking.The data for each marked sentence, including its associated issue, will be stored on a JSON page. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 18:21, 28 February 2026 (UTC) ::Hi [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ::* I believe the dynamically marked comments, as currently implemented in EZPR2, have two disadvantages compared with the extension. First, they can be difficult to remove when working in the visual editor. Second, the extension provides a more user-friendly interface for replying to comments about a specific phrase in the article without having to switch to the talk page and back. ::* That said, one possible improvement to the extension would be to post a copy of the inline comment discussion to the article’s talk page when the comment is removed. This could be offered as an optional feature in the extension. At present, the discussion remains only in the article’s edit history, which may not be ideal, as the talk page is generally expected to serve as the central record of discussions about previous revisions of the article. ::Regards, -- [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 22:53, 28 February 2026 (UTC) :::@[[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]]: I was not aware that there was interest in developing the extension as a gadget, which is, in my opinion, a much more practical and better approach. When the gadget is ready, I think we could also integrate it with EzPR 2025 to allow marking and commenting on specific text within an article. Therefore, I am dropping the Dynamic Marking approach within EzPR. :::Just to clarify regarding your comment: "''First, they can be difficult to remove when working in the visual editor.''" - I believe you may be referring to the current approach of wrapping text with templates. Dynamic Marking '''was not''' designed in that way; it was intended to function more like inline comments. Additionally, EN wikinews currently does not have the VisualEditor enabled. So even if that concern were valid, the current approach would not cause issues in this specific context. -- [[User:Asked42|Asked42]] ([[User talk:Asked42|talk]]) 05:56, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Actually, in Wikipedia there is a dying backlog queue of drafts for review, to create a new page in Wikipedia, users may often have to wait 2-6 months while page is sitting in Draft: namespace. So, I wanted to suggest the gadget separate, then it can be added to ENWP for draft review. For this space here in Wikinews, having the gadget installed there at ENWP could be a part of leverage to get the extension installed in Wikimedia wikis, including here, eventually. Knowing how ENWP centric the ecosystem is. [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:33, 1 March 2026 (UTC) ::::Btw, inline comment doesn't show which phrase it was referring to, and neither does an inline citation. Only one cursor position. And inline comments were such a pain to edit in VE... For once they are not even visible until clicked or something. :( [[User:Gryllida|Gryllida]] ([[User talk:Gryllida|talk]]) 07:34, 1 March 2026 (UTC) == Software suggestion to notify all users eligible to vote == For requests regarding permission, removal of permission, or accreditation, I suggest developing a tool that notifies all eligible users and includes a link where they can provide comments, ask questions, and cast their vote; and with a note how they can opt out of receiving such messages (if desired). I believe similar tools have been used on other wikis, such as Commons or Meta. Since this wiki is relatively small and some recent requests have received very few votes for an extended period, such a tool could help increase participation and prevent discussions from remaining open indefinitely. 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04:56, 1 May 2026 (UTC) == 3 WAY STEEL SLIDING DOOR == 3-Way Steel Sliding Door A 3-way steel sliding door is a type of architectural door system consisting of three sliding panels that move horizontally along a track. It is commonly used in residential and commercial buildings to provide a wide (opening), enhanced security, and efficient use of space. Design and Structure A 3-way steel sliding door typically consists of three independent panels mounted on a track system. The panels slide in parallel, allowing flexible opening configurations. Depending on the design, one or more panels may remain fixed while the others move. Modern versions of this door often incorporate a multi-layer construction, which may include: Front frame layer designed to hold glass panels for natural lighting Middle security layer made from steel burglar-proof designs for protection Rear solid steel plate layer for structural strength and privacy This layered design enhances both the aesthetic and functional performance of the door. Materials 3-way sliding doors are commonly fabricated using mild steel or reinforced steel sections, which provide durability and resistance to forced entry. In some cases, the structure may include: Steel profiles for the frame Glass panels (clear, tinted, or frosted) Steel plates or decorative burglar-proof elements Protective coatings such as paint or powder coating are typically applied to prevent corrosion. Operation Mechanism The door operates using a track and roller system, allowing smooth horizontal movement of the panels. Rollers are usually mounted at the base or top of the panels, depending on the design. Locking mechanisms are integrated to secure the door when closed. The sliding system allows for: Partial or full opening Space-saving operation compared to hinged doors Reduced obstruction in compact environments Applications 3-way steel sliding doors are used in a variety of settings, including: Residential homes (main entrances, patios, balconies) Apartment buildings Commercial properties such as shops and offices Industrial or institutional buildings They are particularly suitable for wide openings where traditional doors may be impractical. Advantages Space efficiency due to horizontal sliding motion Enhanced security when constructed with reinforced steel Wide access opening compared to single or double doors Durability and long service life Ability to combine natural light and ventilation with security features Disadvantages Requires proper track maintenance to ensure smooth operation Installation may be more complex than standard hinged doors Heavier weight due to steel construction Maintenance Regular maintenance of a 3-way steel sliding door includes: Cleaning and lubricating the track and rollers Inspecting locking systems Repainting or recoating to prevent rust Proper maintenance ensures long-term functionality and safety. 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