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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==
Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.
Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).
I have no experience in programming or making imports. So, could someone please update the text of [[Vulgata Clementina]] of Wikisource to use the latest version of ''The Clementine Vulgate Project''? [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 10:01, 23 Februarii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==
On EN wikisource, they have a template <nowiki>{{longs}}</nowiki> to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off.
In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)
In order to implement this:
(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?
(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind:
::* ſ is a variant of s;
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe);
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class).
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg <nowiki>{{scr|qꝫ|que}}</nowiki> would work the same as <nowiki>{{que}}</nowiki>.
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created <nowiki>{{po}}</nowiki> which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg <nowiki>{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}</nowiki>.
:::::In general, using set templates like <nowiki>{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}</nowiki> is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole; at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==
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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.
As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].
After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.
The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.
If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].
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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too.
We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.
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Dear all,
This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.
The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].
Here are the key planned dates:
* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated
Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].
'''Call for Questions'''
In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]
'''Election Volunteers'''
Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]
Thank you!
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter
[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles
[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ
[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates
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== Administrator backlog? ==
Hi there,
I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have <code>class="ws-export"</code> to the second <code><table></code> from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==
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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].
Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) </div>
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==
Dear all,
Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.
I've recently added a new section to the portal: "Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques." This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.
Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.
If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)
[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]
Here is a discussion form on it
https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174
Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates</span> ==
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Hello all,
The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.
This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]
Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.
Best regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi<br />
Chair of the Elections Committee
On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee
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[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.
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Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews</span> ==
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Dear Wikimedia Community,
The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]] of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].
A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.
Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.
Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.
Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.
Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.
=== Wikispore ===
The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.
After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support.
We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.
As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.
Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.
=== Wikinews ===
We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.
Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 <nowiki>[2]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.
While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews <nowiki>[4]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[5]</nowiki>, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? <nowiki>[6]</nowiki>].
[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.
Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.
SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.
'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.
=== Feedback and next steps ===
We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.
I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions.
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==
Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]] for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== Navigation and validation ==
Hi there,
I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some "portal" pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.
I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
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Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.
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The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.
This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.
The three main features of this extension are:
* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
* '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
* '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.
'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''"Event Organizer"''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.
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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.
Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate.
'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''
Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect.
Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.
'''How temporary accounts work'''
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Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: <code dir=ltr>~2025-12345-67</code> (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.
'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''
'''For logged-out editors'''
* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
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* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.
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'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''
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To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!<section end="body" />
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==
I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]
These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one "[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&oldid=79709&diff=cur pending change]" on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::<nowiki></noinclude></nowiki>
::<nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&diff=next&oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Request for admin status ==
Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to "pending" changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]: in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]],
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]].
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==
It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==
Hi all,
Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about <nowiki>Formula:Sidenotes begin</nowiki> above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes <u>does not prevent damage</u> to the project. It is <u>merely a tracking and notification method?</u>
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject?
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily.
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the "Pending Changes" status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&diff=prev&oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== Index page error "Error: Invalid interval" ==
I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] "Error: Invalid interval" for the paginae listing; even when set to <code><nowiki><pagelist 1=1 /></nowiki></code>. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:This might be the infamous "0x0 bug" that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
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== Quaestio de Archibaldi Pitcarnii scriptoris operum recensione ==
Quaeso ut videatis [[:en:Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne|Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne]] pro indicio operum Archibaldi Pitcarnii auctoris. Haec opera olim sub pagina Anglica erant posita, sed propter Latinam linguam sublata sunt. Possumusne paginam [[Scriptor:Archibaldus Pitcarnius]](?) creare et haec ibi recensere? [[Specialis:Conlationes/~2025-27371-40|~2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:~2025-27371-40|talk]]) 20:45, 19 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:Libenter tibi pagina scriptoris addetur, ut opera transcriptioni adiungantur! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:36, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::Gratias ago! Nota quaeso quod, ubi pagina creata erit, eam etiam in Vicidata addendam esse, sicut Anglica pagina [[:en:Author:Archibald Pitcairne]]. --[[Specialis:Conlationes/~2025-27371-40|~2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:~2025-27371-40|talk]]) 08:50, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::Certe, nexus Vicidata ad alias paginas de Archibaldo creandus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:07, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Help us decide the name of the new Abstract Wikipedia project</span> ==
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== Missal transcription: ℣ and ℟ , and ✠ ==
Hi there, @[[Usor:Laura1822|Laura1822]] is transcribing [[Liber:Missale Romanum 1862.djvu]], and needs the characters ℣ and ℟ , and ✠ to display for users, when these are in mainspace. We think it may be necessary to use a special / embedded font to do this, as I think was meant for <nowiki>{{blackletter}}</nowiki> ({{blackletter|exempli gratia}}; see [[Formula:Blackletter/styles.css]], although this does not seem to be calling a font at the moment). Does anyone have any advice about how we would add a webfont to LAWS's CSS, particularly for ℣ and ℟ ; or if there is a way to use an existing webfont with these characters that might be available to us? (Or if there is some other workable solution). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:58, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== Vandalismus ==
Vidi nuper nonnihil vandalismi, qualis in [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Veni,_Veni_Emmanuel!&curid=12961&diff=244803&oldid=244791 hoc] et [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=The_Old_Testament_(Vulgate)/Hieremias_propheta&action=history illo] apparuit. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:02, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees</span> ==
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Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: <nowiki><poem>+</poem></nowiki> et <nowiki>{{Versus|+}}</nowiki>? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] <nowiki><poem>+</poem></nowiki> et <nowiki>{{Versus|+}}</nowiki>? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::Gratias ago maximas! [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:51, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==
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'''The Change:'''<br />
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:@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]], @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]], @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]], @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]. Please let me know if Bot status can be granted. --[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Schlurcher|disputatio]]) 06:48, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]]: fine for me, if there are no objections I'll grant it. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:03, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] OK for me too. --[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 11:41, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] Fine for me too. This checked conversions from http to https are important. [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 15:06, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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== Proofing [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]] ==
If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Vote now in the 2026 U4C election</span> ==
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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2026 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2026|2026 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 2 June 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1780358400 00:00 UTC].
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== Formula:FI ==
{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)
:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==
What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
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No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:<blockquote>'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.''' Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.</blockquote> [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==
Hello,
Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.
Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). <s>However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.</s> No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae > Proprietates > Sermonis delectus > Plura > Scripturae and toggle "Download fonts when needed". The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the "download fonts when needed" option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==
Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the "Proofread" status, except that a few are also "Validated". I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.
My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?
Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
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[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
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== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==
Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that <nowiki>{{s}}<nowiki> produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is "s" by default.
For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are "off" by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.
There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default behaviour per book rather than sitewide
Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
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:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==
On EN wikisource, they have a template <nowiki>{{longs}}</nowiki> to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off.
In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)
In order to implement this:
(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?
(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind:
::* ſ is a variant of s;
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe);
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class).
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg <nowiki>{{scr|qꝫ|que}}</nowiki> would work the same as <nowiki>{{que}}</nowiki>.
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created <nowiki>{{po}}</nowiki> which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg <nowiki>{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}</nowiki>.
:::::In general, using set templates like <nowiki>{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}</nowiki> is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole; at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==
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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.
As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].
After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.
The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.
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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too.
We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.
You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,
This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.
The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].
Here are the key planned dates:
* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated
Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].
'''Call for Questions'''
In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]
'''Election Volunteers'''
Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]
Thank you!
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter
[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles
[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ
[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates
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== Administrator backlog? ==
Hi there,
I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have <code>class="ws-export"</code> to the second <code><table></code> from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==
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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].
Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) </div>
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==
Dear all,
Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.
I've recently added a new section to the portal: "Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques." This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.
Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.
If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)
[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]
Here is a discussion form on it
https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174
Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
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The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.
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The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]] of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].
A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.
Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.
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Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.
Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.
=== Wikispore ===
The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.
After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support.
We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.
As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.
Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.
=== Wikinews ===
We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.
Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 <nowiki>[2]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.
While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews <nowiki>[4]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[5]</nowiki>, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? <nowiki>[6]</nowiki>].
[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.
Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.
SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.
'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.
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We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.
I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions.
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==
Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]] for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== Navigation and validation ==
Hi there,
I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some "portal" pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.
I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==
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The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.
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'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''
Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect.
Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.
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'''For logged-out editors'''
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'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''
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* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.
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I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]
These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one "[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&oldid=79709&diff=cur pending change]" on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::<nowiki></noinclude></nowiki>
::<nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&diff=next&oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Request for admin status ==
Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to "pending" changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]: in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]],
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]].
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==
It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==
Hi all,
Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about <nowiki>Formula:Sidenotes begin</nowiki> above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes <u>does not prevent damage</u> to the project. It is <u>merely a tracking and notification method?</u>
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject?
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily.
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the "Pending Changes" status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&diff=prev&oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== Index page error "Error: Invalid interval" ==
I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] "Error: Invalid interval" for the paginae listing; even when set to <code><nowiki><pagelist 1=1 /></nowiki></code>. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:This might be the infamous "0x0 bug" that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
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:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==
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No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:<blockquote>'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.''' Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.</blockquote> [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==
Hello,
Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.
Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). <s>However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.</s> No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae > Proprietates > Sermonis delectus > Plura > Scripturae and toggle "Download fonts when needed". The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the "download fonts when needed" option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==
Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the "Proofread" status, except that a few are also "Validated". I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.
My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?
Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==
Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that <nowiki>{{s}}</nowiki> produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is "s" by default.
For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are "off" by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.
There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default behaviour per book rather than sitewide
Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
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:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==
On EN wikisource, they have a template <nowiki>{{longs}}</nowiki> to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off.
In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)
In order to implement this:
(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?
(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind:
::* ſ is a variant of s;
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe);
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class).
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg <nowiki>{{scr|qꝫ|que}}</nowiki> would work the same as <nowiki>{{que}}</nowiki>.
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created <nowiki>{{po}}</nowiki> which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg <nowiki>{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}</nowiki>.
:::::In general, using set templates like <nowiki>{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}</nowiki> is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole; at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==
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Hi all! We have good news to share regarding the ongoing problem with graphs and charts affecting all wikis that use them.
As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].
After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.
The deployment will happen in batches, and will start from '''May 6'''. Please, consult [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart/Project#Deployment Timeline|our page on MediaWiki.org]] to discover when the new Charts extension will be deployed on your wiki. You can also [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|consult the documentation]] about the extension on MediaWiki.org.
If you have questions, need clarifications, or just want to express your opinion about it, please refer to the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension_talk:Chart/Project|project’s talk page on Mediawiki.org]], or ping me directly under this thread. If you encounter issues using Charts once it gets enabled on your wiki, please report it on the [[:mw:Extension_talk:Chart/Project|talk page]] or at [[phab:tag/charts|Phabricator]].
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Hello all! We opened a discussion on Meta about a very delicate issue for the development of [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]: where to store the abstract content that will be developed through functions from Wikifunctions and data from Wikidata. Since some of the hypothesis involve your project, we wanted to hear your thoughts too.
We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.
You can read the various hypothesis and have your say at [[:m:Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content|Abstract Wikipedia/Location of Abstract Content]]. Thank you in advance! -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 15:27, 22 Maii 2025 (UTC)
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Dear all,
This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.
The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].
Here are the key planned dates:
* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated
Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].
'''Call for Questions'''
In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]
'''Election Volunteers'''
Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]
Thank you!
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter
[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles
[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ
[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates
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== Administrator backlog? ==
Hi there,
I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have <code>class="ws-export"</code> to the second <code><table></code> from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==
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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].
Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) </div>
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==
Dear all,
Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.
I've recently added a new section to the portal: "Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques." This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.
Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.
If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)
[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]
Here is a discussion form on it
https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174
Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates</span> ==
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Hello all,
The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.
This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]
Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.
Best regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi<br />
Chair of the Elections Committee
On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.
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== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews</span> ==
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Dear Wikimedia Community,
The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]] of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].
A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.
Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.
Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.
Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.
Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.
=== Wikispore ===
The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.
After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support.
We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.
As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.
Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.
=== Wikinews ===
We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.
Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 <nowiki>[2]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.
While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews <nowiki>[4]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[5]</nowiki>, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? <nowiki>[6]</nowiki>].
[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.
Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.
SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.
'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.
=== Feedback and next steps ===
We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.
I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions.
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==
Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]] for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== Navigation and validation ==
Hi there,
I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some "portal" pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.
I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==
I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]
These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one "[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&oldid=79709&diff=cur pending change]" on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::<nowiki></noinclude></nowiki>
::<nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&diff=next&oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Request for admin status ==
Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to "pending" changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]: in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]],
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]].
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==
It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==
Hi all,
Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about <nowiki>Formula:Sidenotes begin</nowiki> above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes <u>does not prevent damage</u> to the project. It is <u>merely a tracking and notification method?</u>
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject?
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily.
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the "Pending Changes" status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&diff=prev&oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== Index page error "Error: Invalid interval" ==
I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] "Error: Invalid interval" for the paginae listing; even when set to <code><nowiki><pagelist 1=1 /></nowiki></code>. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:This might be the infamous "0x0 bug" that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
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Quaeso ut videatis [[:en:Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne|Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne]] pro indicio operum Archibaldi Pitcarnii auctoris. Haec opera olim sub pagina Anglica erant posita, sed propter Latinam linguam sublata sunt. Possumusne paginam [[Scriptor:Archibaldus Pitcarnius]](?) creare et haec ibi recensere? [[Specialis:Conlationes/~2025-27371-40|~2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:~2025-27371-40|talk]]) 20:45, 19 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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::Gratias ago! Nota quaeso quod, ubi pagina creata erit, eam etiam in Vicidata addendam esse, sicut Anglica pagina [[:en:Author:Archibald Pitcairne]]. --[[Specialis:Conlationes/~2025-27371-40|~2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:~2025-27371-40|talk]]) 08:50, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::Certe, nexus Vicidata ad alias paginas de Archibaldo creandus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:07, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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Hi there, @[[Usor:Laura1822|Laura1822]] is transcribing [[Liber:Missale Romanum 1862.djvu]], and needs the characters ℣ and ℟ , and ✠ to display for users, when these are in mainspace. We think it may be necessary to use a special / embedded font to do this, as I think was meant for <nowiki>{{blackletter}}</nowiki> ({{blackletter|exempli gratia}}; see [[Formula:Blackletter/styles.css]], although this does not seem to be calling a font at the moment). Does anyone have any advice about how we would add a webfont to LAWS's CSS, particularly for ℣ and ℟ ; or if there is a way to use an existing webfont with these characters that might be available to us? (Or if there is some other workable solution). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:58, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== Vandalismus ==
Vidi nuper nonnihil vandalismi, qualis in [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Veni,_Veni_Emmanuel!&curid=12961&diff=244803&oldid=244791 hoc] et [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=The_Old_Testament_(Vulgate)/Hieremias_propheta&action=history illo] apparuit. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:02, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: <nowiki><poem>+</poem></nowiki> et <nowiki>{{Versus|+}}</nowiki>? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] <nowiki><poem>+</poem></nowiki> et <nowiki>{{Versus|+}}</nowiki>? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::Gratias ago maximas! [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:51, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)
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== Formula:FI ==
{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)
:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==
What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
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No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:<blockquote>'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.''' Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.</blockquote> [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==
Hello,
Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.
Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). <s>However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.</s> No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae > Proprietates > Sermonis delectus > Plura > Scripturae and toggle "Download fonts when needed". The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the "download fonts when needed" option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==
Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the "Proofread" status, except that a few are also "Validated". I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.
My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?
Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
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[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==
Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that <nowiki>{{s}}</nowiki> produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is "s" by default.
For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are "off" by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.
There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default behaviour per book rather than sitewide
I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ.
Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==
Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.
Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).
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:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==
On EN wikisource, they have a template <nowiki>{{longs}}</nowiki> to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off.
In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)
In order to implement this:
(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?
(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind:
::* ſ is a variant of s;
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe);
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class).
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg <nowiki>{{scr|qꝫ|que}}</nowiki> would work the same as <nowiki>{{que}}</nowiki>.
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created <nowiki>{{po}}</nowiki> which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg <nowiki>{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}</nowiki>.
:::::In general, using set templates like <nowiki>{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}</nowiki> is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole; at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==
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As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].
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This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.
The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].
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[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results
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== Administrator backlog? ==
Hi there,
I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have <code>class="ws-export"</code> to the second <code><table></code> from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==
Dear all,
Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.
I've recently added a new section to the portal: "Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques." This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.
Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.
If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)
[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]
Here is a discussion form on it
https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174
Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates</span> ==
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Hello all,
The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.
This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]
Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.
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== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews</span> ==
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The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]] of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].
A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.
Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.
Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.
Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.
Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.
=== Wikispore ===
The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.
After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support.
We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.
As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.
Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.
=== Wikinews ===
We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.
Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 <nowiki>[2]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.
While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews <nowiki>[4]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[5]</nowiki>, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? <nowiki>[6]</nowiki>].
[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.
Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.
SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.
'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.
=== Feedback and next steps ===
We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.
I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions.
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==
Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]] for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== Navigation and validation ==
Hi there,
I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some "portal" pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.
I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==
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Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.
The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
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== <span lang="en" dir="ltr"> Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension</span> ==
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''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''
The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.
This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.
The three main features of this extension are:
* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
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* '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.
'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''"Event Organizer"''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.
The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])
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Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate.
'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''
Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect.
Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.
'''How temporary accounts work'''
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Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: <code dir=ltr>~2025-12345-67</code> (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.
'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''
'''For logged-out editors'''
* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.
'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''
* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.
'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''
* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==
I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]
These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one "[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&oldid=79709&diff=cur pending change]" on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::<nowiki></noinclude></nowiki>
::<nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&diff=next&oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Request for admin status ==
Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to "pending" changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]: in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]],
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]].
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==
It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==
Hi all,
Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about <nowiki>Formula:Sidenotes begin</nowiki> above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes <u>does not prevent damage</u> to the project. It is <u>merely a tracking and notification method?</u>
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject?
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily.
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the "Pending Changes" status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&diff=prev&oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== Index page error "Error: Invalid interval" ==
I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] "Error: Invalid interval" for the paginae listing; even when set to <code><nowiki><pagelist 1=1 /></nowiki></code>. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:This might be the infamous "0x0 bug" that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
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Hi there, @[[Usor:Laura1822|Laura1822]] is transcribing [[Liber:Missale Romanum 1862.djvu]], and needs the characters ℣ and ℟ , and ✠ to display for users, when these are in mainspace. We think it may be necessary to use a special / embedded font to do this, as I think was meant for <nowiki>{{blackletter}}</nowiki> ({{blackletter|exempli gratia}}; see [[Formula:Blackletter/styles.css]], although this does not seem to be calling a font at the moment). Does anyone have any advice about how we would add a webfont to LAWS's CSS, particularly for ℣ and ℟ ; or if there is a way to use an existing webfont with these characters that might be available to us? (Or if there is some other workable solution). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:58, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== Vandalismus ==
Vidi nuper nonnihil vandalismi, qualis in [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Veni,_Veni_Emmanuel!&curid=12961&diff=244803&oldid=244791 hoc] et [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=The_Old_Testament_(Vulgate)/Hieremias_propheta&action=history illo] apparuit. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:02, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees</span> ==
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== Ad magistratus ==
Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: <nowiki><poem>+</poem></nowiki> et <nowiki>{{Versus|+}}</nowiki>? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] <nowiki><poem>+</poem></nowiki> et <nowiki>{{Versus|+}}</nowiki>? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::Gratias ago maximas! [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:51, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==
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::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]]: fine for me, if there are no objections I'll grant it. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:03, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] OK for me too. --[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 11:41, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] Fine for me too. This checked conversions from http to https are important. [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 15:06, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
:::{{Done}} Right granted. @[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]], would you tell us something about you second bot called [[Usor:SchlurcherBotT|SchlurcherBotT]], please? - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 15:28, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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== Proofing [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]] ==
If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)
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== Formula:FI ==
{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)
:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==
What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
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No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:<blockquote>'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.''' Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.</blockquote> [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==
Hello,
Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.
Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). <s>However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.</s> No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae > Proprietates > Sermonis delectus > Plura > Scripturae and toggle "Download fonts when needed". The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the "download fonts when needed" option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== RFC about AI-generated content in Wikimedia Commons ==
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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==
Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the "Proofread" status, except that a few are also "Validated". I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.
My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?
Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==
Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that <nowiki>{{s}}</nowiki> produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is "s" by default.
For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are "off" by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.
There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide
I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ.
Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
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Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).
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:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==
On EN wikisource, they have a template <nowiki>{{longs}}</nowiki> to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off.
In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)
In order to implement this:
(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?
(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind:
::* ſ is a variant of s;
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe);
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class).
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg <nowiki>{{scr|qꝫ|que}}</nowiki> would work the same as <nowiki>{{que}}</nowiki>.
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created <nowiki>{{po}}</nowiki> which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg <nowiki>{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}</nowiki>.
:::::In general, using set templates like <nowiki>{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}</nowiki> is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole; at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== We will be enabling the new Charts extension on your wiki soon! ==
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As you probably know, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Graph|old Graph extension]] was disabled in 2023 [[listarchive:list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EWL4AGBEZEDMNNFTM4FRD4MHOU3CVESO/|due to security reasons]]. We’ve worked in these two years to find a solution that could replace the old extension, and provide a safer and better solution to users who wanted to showcase graphs and charts in their articles. We therefore developed the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Chart|Charts extension]], which will be replacing the old Graph extension and potentially also the [[:mw:Extension:EasyTimeline|EasyTimeline extension]].
After successfully deploying the extension on Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedia, as well as on MediaWiki.org, as part of a pilot phase, we are now happy to announce that we are moving forward with the next phase of deployment, which will also include your wiki.
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We want to make the decision process clear: we do not yet know which option we want to use, which is why we are consulting here. We will take the arguments from the Wikimedia communities into account, and we want to consult with the different communities and hear arguments that will help us with the decision. The decision will be made and communicated after the consultation period by the Foundation.
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Dear all,
This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.
The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].
Here are the key planned dates:
* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated
Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].
'''Call for Questions'''
In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]
'''Election Volunteers'''
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Thank you!
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter
[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024
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== Administrator backlog? ==
Hi there,
I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have <code>class="ws-export"</code> to the second <code><table></code> from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==
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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==
Dear all,
Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.
I've recently added a new section to the portal: "Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques." This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.
Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.
If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)
[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]
Here is a discussion form on it
https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174
Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates</span> ==
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Hello all,
The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.
This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]
Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.
Best regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi<br />
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On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee
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== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews</span> ==
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Dear Wikimedia Community,
The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]] of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].
A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.
Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.
Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.
Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.
Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.
=== Wikispore ===
The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.
After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support.
We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.
As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.
Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.
=== Wikinews ===
We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.
Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 <nowiki>[2]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.
While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews <nowiki>[4]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[5]</nowiki>, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? <nowiki>[6]</nowiki>].
[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.
Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.
SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.
'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.
=== Feedback and next steps ===
We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.
I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions.
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==
Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]] for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== Navigation and validation ==
Hi there,
I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some "portal" pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.
I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==
''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''
Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.
The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
[[File:Apr10 edit summary on Wikidata.png|An edit sum entry on Wikidata, labels display alongside their P- and Q-no.'s]]
These changes will only be visible if you have Wikidata edits enabled in your User Preferences for Watchlists and Recent Changes, or have the active filter ‘Wikidata edits’ checkbox toggled on, directly on the Watchlist and Recent Changes pages.
Your bot and gadget may be affected! There are thousands of bots, gadgets and user-scripts and whilst we have researched potential effects to many of them, we cannot guarantee there won’t be some that are broken or affected by this change.
Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].
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== <span lang="en" dir="ltr"> Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension</span> ==
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Hello everyone,
''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''
The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.
This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.
The three main features of this extension are:
* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
* '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
* '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.
'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''"Event Organizer"''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.
The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])
If you have any questions, concerns, or feedback, please feel free to share them on the [[m:Talk:CampaignEvents| extension talkpage]]. We’d love to hear from you before the rollout.
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== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Temporary accounts will be rolled out soon</span> ==
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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.
Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate.
'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''
Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect.
Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.
'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: <code dir=ltr>~2025-12345-67</code> (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.
'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''
'''For logged-out editors'''
* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.
'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''
* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.
'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''
* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.
'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''
* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.
To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!<section end="body" />
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==
I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]
These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one "[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&oldid=79709&diff=cur pending change]" on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::<nowiki></noinclude></nowiki>
::<nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&diff=next&oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Request for admin status ==
Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to "pending" changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]: in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]],
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]].
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==
It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==
Hi all,
Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about <nowiki>Formula:Sidenotes begin</nowiki> above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes <u>does not prevent damage</u> to the project. It is <u>merely a tracking and notification method?</u>
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject?
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily.
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the "Pending Changes" status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&diff=prev&oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== Index page error "Error: Invalid interval" ==
I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] "Error: Invalid interval" for the paginae listing; even when set to <code><nowiki><pagelist 1=1 /></nowiki></code>. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:This might be the infamous "0x0 bug" that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
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Vidi nuper nonnihil vandalismi, qualis in [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Veni,_Veni_Emmanuel!&curid=12961&diff=244803&oldid=244791 hoc] et [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=The_Old_Testament_(Vulgate)/Hieremias_propheta&action=history illo] apparuit. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:02, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
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== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==
Hello,
Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.
Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). <s>However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.</s> No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae > Proprietates > Sermonis delectus > Plura > Scripturae and toggle "Download fonts when needed". The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the "download fonts when needed" option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==
Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the "Proofread" status, except that a few are also "Validated". I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.
My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?
Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
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[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
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== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==
Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that <nowiki>{{s}}</nowiki> produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is "s" by default.
For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are "off" by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.
There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide
I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.
Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
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== Request for updating the text of the Clementine Bible ==
Two months ago, at [[Disputatio:Vulgata Clementina#The Clementine Vulgate Project dead?]] I noted that the links related to ''The Clementine Vulgate Project'', the main source used for the text of the [[Vulgata Clementina]], were dead.
Fortunately, the list of changes made since the import of on Wikisource can be found [https://web.archive.org/web/20240122025223/https://vulsearch.sourceforge.net/clemtext.rss here]. There is also [https://bitbucket.org/clementinetextproject/text/downloads/ a repository] (although I am not sure if it is up to date).
I have no experience in programming or making imports. So, could someone please update the text of [[Vulgata Clementina]] of Wikisource to use the latest version of ''The Clementine Vulgate Project''? [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 10:01, 23 Februarii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Ser be etre shi|Ser be etre shi]] Are you able to help with this? Ping in case so. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:27, 3 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] Just checking these look like quite a small number of changes, is that right? It may be easiest to do these manually. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:38, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock}} well, my Latin is almost nonexistent, so I cannot do it myself sadly. [[Usor:Veverve|Veverve]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Veverve|disputatio]]) 18:21, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
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== Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s) ==
On EN wikisource, they have a template <nowiki>{{longs}}</nowiki> to produce ''ſ'' on the transcription page, and by default, ''s'' on the ebook page. users on EN WS can toggle these on and off.
In this book, [[:la:Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']], there are a number of unusual characters that could do with toggling: ''ſ (s); ß (ss); ẽ (en / em) ũ (un / um) æ (ae) ę (ae) õ (on / om) ã (an / am) œ (oe)''. ([[:formula:ls]] already exists here for ſ, and some other characters semi-implemented at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]] but the toggling is not switched on.)
In order to implement this:
(1) What would LA WiCategoria:Formulae litterarumkisource need to enable for user toggling of special characters?
(2) Who would I contact (assuming this is an admin task)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:06, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:It looks like it would need this installing, as a start: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js|MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:13, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|OrbiliusMagister}} as the only active magister! --[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:16, 29 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|SZC 03}} in case you have an opinion (you made changes at the De Pricipia transcription project which we could implement better with this toggle feature). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:31, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that not all of the listed characters are of the same kind:
::* ſ is a variant of s;
::* ß, æ and œ are [[:w:en:Ligature (writing)|ligatures]] of ſs, ae and oe respectively ([[:w:en:E caudata|ę]] can represent both ae or oe);
::* ã, ẽ, õ, ũ are used to indicate [[:w:en:Scribal abbreviation|abbreviations]].
::Personally I think it would be somewhat useful to implement the toggle feature only for æ and œ, since of all the ligatures they are the only ones that carry some meaning (that ae or oe in that word is a diphthong) and the only ones that easily show up in search results and correctly displayed in web-browsers.
::Note that both English and Italian wikisources in their transcription guidelines take in consideration the ability of both modern readers and search engines to correctly interpret the character shown (see [[:en:Wikisource:Style guide/Orthography]] and [[:it:Wikisource:Convenzioni di trascrizione]]). Though it would be useful to write rules specific to the Latin wikisource.
::I hope these considerations were of any help. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 07:58, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
::In regards to the [[Liber:Nicolaus Machiavellus De Principe.pdf|''De principe'']] it would be appropriate to encode the text in a way that we do not lose your work of accurately transcribing the above characters, while still showing to the end user a normalized form. My edit was trying to achieve this with the templates currently in wikisource.
::From a technical standpoint, it would be useful to have a general template not specific to any character that could be used both in ''ad hoc'' situations, and in creating other templates.
::Also if such a template is created for abbreviations it should behave differently from the long s and ligatures, since 1) the text displayed is context dependent, and 2) it is common use in diplomatic transcriptions to show the abbreviated characters in parentheses (so I were taught in paleography class).
::To give an example of point 2 from the text ([[Pagina:Nicolaus_Machiavellus_De_Principe.pdf/69|page 45]], line 11):
::Original text: Iãq́ꝫ
::Diplomatic transcription: Ia(m)q(ue)
::Standard transcription: Iamque
::I’m sorry for the lengthy comments. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:02, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I agree something adhoc would be helpful. The template would need to specify
:::* the text as-is and
:::* the modernised version
:::and hopefully there would be a system to pick up which to display.
:::In terms of the display: this could be the js system, perhaps adapted, that we have on en.ws, or possibly it could be an adjustment to the page templates set up, to allow two different books, or sets of pages, to be presented. This would have the advantage that exports would facilitate both (IDK but suspect that exports support the default rather than user choice). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 15:48, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I have set out this information in a [[Usor:JimKillock/Orthography|table]] including information about dictionary lookups and likely search engine issues. In short, from a user perspective, all the characters can be problematic, but æ and œ work within Alpheios for dictionary lookups, so are a bit more tolerable than the others from a default perspective. However I think it is useful tobe able to see and use the originals for some people, eg those practicing reading Renaissance scans etc; or researchers or academics looking to use source texts. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:09, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|Alex brollo}}, {{ping|VIGNERON}}, {{ping|Candalua}} in case you can help. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:38, 30 Aprilis 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] Interesting question. I'll take a look to the ensource template to understand how it works (I hope it is not based on javascript). [[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 06:18, 1 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::I’m afraid it is based on javascript: [[:en:MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js]]
:::To see the button you have to enable the [[:en:Help:Gadget-Visibility|Visibility gadget]]. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 11:12, 3 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] checking in whether we can implement this, or find another solution. I am holding off further changes until I know how to proceed - but I am sure there should be a way to do this! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:40, 19 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:::Noting this question comes up again at [[:Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]] (I have [[Disputatio Libri:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|left a note there]]). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:08, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::OK, I have developed templates as this is holding up other people's work. I have based each template on the existing [[:formula:ls]], and avoid duplicating those that already exist using the same method at [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]. Meantime if anyone has further thoughts about using Visibility Gadget or going another way, I would be very grateful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:02, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::@[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] I have made a very basic template for flexible character switching at [[Formula:Scr]]; this returns the first entry on the book page, and the second in main space, eg <nowiki>{{scr|qꝫ|que}}</nowiki> would work the same as <nowiki>{{que}}</nowiki>.
:::::However there is advice on ENWS not to use characters but use HTML entities for CSS reasons, so it is probably better for users to use specific templates. For example, I also created <nowiki>{{po}}</nowiki> which allows a user to decide what it might best represent, eg <nowiki>{{po|;}} or {{po|?}}</nowiki>.
:::::In general, using set templates like <nowiki>{{que}}, {{em}}, {{um}}, {{etc}}</nowiki> is much easier for proofing, so I think I will continue to add these where it seems useful. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:29, 24 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Hi folks, so that you know, I have made something of a workaround to be able to enable these features, which works well enough for me. I will perhaps add some guidance somewhere. What I have done:
::::::# Installed the font Garamontio, as it has the qꝫ character, and all the possible ligatures
::::::# Created custom css to apply Garamontio to Wikisource as a whole; at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.css]]; and
::::::# Created (vibecoded) custom javascript at [[Usor:JimKillock/common.js]]
::::::The second script looks for the various spans with the css style typographic-long-s, and replaces the characters as appropriate. This seems to work surprisingly well, Garamontio does all of the discretionary ligatures etc, and is a very well designed font (fork of EB Garamond, with some extra touches useful here). The issue is of course that this applies to the whole of Latin Wikisource all of the time. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:35, 25 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], reading this I wanted to tell you that you could apply styles to a index page, but I see you have already figured it out. Kudos on your progress. [[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:SZC 03|disputatio]]) 09:56, 9 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks @[[Usor:SZC 03|SZC 03]]; my list of scribal transformations has got quite long tho. And I need to check on the possible logic of it, some needs to hide and unhide, rather than search and replace. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:27, 11 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
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== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 Selection & Call for Questions</span> ==
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Dear all,
This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.
The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].
Here are the key planned dates:
* May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
* June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
* July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
* August 2025: Campaign period
* August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
* October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
* Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated
Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025|[link]]].
'''Call for Questions'''
In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates|[link]]]
'''Election Volunteers'''
Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [[m:Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Election_volunteers|[link].]]
Thank you!
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter
[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles
[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ
[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates
Best regards,
Victoria Doronina
Board Liaison to the Elections Committee
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== Administrator backlog? ==
Hi there,
I am noticing a lot of pages that say that the current version is not checked; and versions I have amended are not (apparently) displayed because they need approval. Am I right in assuming this is due to a lack of (active) administrator time? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:53, 30 Maii 2025 (UTC)
:Relatedly @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] / @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] / other admins, [[Colloquia familiaria]] has an old index page and other old sub pages which could do with changes being approved. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 11:58, 12 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::Ping on this, some of the sub pages are quite broken. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:42, 28 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:I have tried to fix the lack of text in ePub export for [[Noctes Atticae]].
:Unfortunately, it seems that all my submissions require approval (last approval seems to have taken place more than five years ago).
:Is there any way to have <code>class="ws-export"</code> to the second <code><table></code> from [[Noctes Atticae]]?
:Many thanks for your help, [[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 19:09, 15 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
== Vote now in the 2025 U4C Election ==
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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2025 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2025|2025 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 17 June 2025 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1750161600 12:00 UTC].
Please vote if your account is eligible. Results will be available by 1 July 2025. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]]) 23:01, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC) </div>
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== Mnemonics Book in Latin ==
Dear all,
Over the past month, with the help of others, I’ve been compiling a list of older and often overlooked books on mnemonic techniques available on [[:en:Portal:Mnemonics|Wikisource English]]. Many of these works—some dating back decades or even centuries—offer fascinating insights into how memory has been understood, trained, and improved across different cultures and time periods.
I've recently added a new section to the portal: "Multilingual Works on Mnemonic Techniques." This is in part because several of the English-language texts reference related works in other languages, particularly Latin.
Unfortunately, many of these referenced works are written in Classical Latin, and my ability to work with them is quite limited—I’ve done what I can, but they remain largely inaccessible to me.
If anyone has expertise in Classical Latin and might be willing to help with these texts, your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
* ''[[:la:Foenix|Foenix]] by [[w:en:Peter of Ravenna|Peter of Ravenna]]'' (1491)
* ''[[:la:Congestorium Artificiose Memorie|Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]'' by Johann Horst von Romberch (1533)
[[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032259.jpg|150px]][[File:Johann Romberch, Congestorium artificiose... Wellcome L0032269.jpg|150px]]
Here is a discussion form on it
https://forum.artofmemory.com/t/johannes-romberchs-congestorium-artificiose-memorie/30174
Warm regards [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 23:15, 13 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi there, I could help proofing texts you have prepared perhaps? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:57, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:: Thanks for offering—I’d really appreciate your help with proofreading.
:: We have two books. Which one would you like to start with?
::*[[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf]]
::*[[Liber:Congestorium artificiose memorie ... - V.P.F. Joa(n)nis Romberch de Kyrspe. Regularis obseruantie predicatorie- (IA hin-wel-all-00002875-001).pdf]]
::[[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 21:49, 14 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I can do the pages you have put into the first, as a start for you. BTW the transcribed text does not always look like it originated from the source. It is very correct, but some has different orthography and missed certain parts. That is fine of course if we are correcting to the original. (PS: you might want to create a user account so that you can be notified of replies, hide your IP address, etc). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:57, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::I had a go at the first page or two; some of the orthography was removed while other parts were kept. I kept all of it as a first go. See the discussion above about how we treat orthography, hopefully we can address this with templates. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:11, 15 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::I'm using Google OCR and some AI tools to pull out text and sometimes translate it into English so I can understand it. If anyone could help me proofread or check it, I’d be super grateful! [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 00:50, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
:::::I have added all the templates we need for the special characters / orthography, I will start doing the pages with those. The end result will be that on the main space ebook pages, the chars will toggle on and off, at least once that is properly implemented. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:25, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
::::::Noted, sounds good. I’ll try adding to the other pages next time. [[Specialis:Conlationes/82.167.147.5|82.167.147.5]] 22:10, 17 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees 2025 - Call for Candidates</span> ==
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Hello all,
The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|call for candidates for the 2025 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees selection is now open]] from June 17, 2025 – July 2, 2025 at 11:59 UTC [1]. The Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's work, and each Trustee serves a three-year term [2]. This is a volunteer position.
This year, the Wikimedia community will vote in late August through September 2025 to fill two (2) seats on the Foundation Board. Could you – or someone you know – be a good fit to join the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees? [3]
Learn more about what it takes to stand for these leadership positions and how to submit your candidacy on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidate application|this Meta-wiki page]] or encourage someone else to run in this year's election.
Best regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi<br />
Chair of the Elections Committee
On behalf of the Elections Committee and Governance Committee
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Call_for_candidates
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Legal:Bylaws#(B)_Term.
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Si vis, quaeso, me adiuva ut liber novus ''[[De Principe]]'' correctus sit et erroribus liber. Nuper completus, ab aliquo alio corrigendus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:14, 27 Iunii 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Sister Projects Task Force reviews Wikispore and Wikinews</span> ==
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Dear Wikimedia Community,
The [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee|Community Affairs Committee (CAC)]] of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees assigned [[m:Wikimedia Foundation Community Affairs Committee/Sister Projects Task Force|the Sister Projects Task Force (SPTF)]] to update and implement a procedure for assessing the lifecycle of Sister Projects – wiki [[m:Wikimedia projects|projects supported by Wikimedia Foundation (WMF)]].
A vision of relevant, accessible, and impactful free knowledge has always guided the Wikimedia Movement. As the ecosystem of Wikimedia projects continues to evolve, it is crucial that we periodically review existing projects to ensure they still align with our goals and community capacity.
Despite their noble intent, some projects may no longer effectively serve their original purpose. '''Reviewing such projects is not about giving up – it's about responsible stewardship of shared resources'''. Volunteer time, staff support, infrastructure, and community attention are finite, and the non-technical costs tend to grow significantly as our ecosystem has entered a different age of the internet than the one we were founded in. Supporting inactive projects or projects that didn't meet our ambitions can unintentionally divert these resources from areas with more potential impact.
Moreover, maintaining projects that no longer reflect the quality and reliability of the Wikimedia name stands for, involves a reputational risk. An abandoned or less reliable project affects trust in the Wikimedia movement.
Lastly, '''failing to sunset or reimagine projects that are no longer working can make it much harder to start new ones'''. When the community feels bound to every past decision – no matter how outdated – we risk stagnation. A healthy ecosystem must allow for evolution, adaptation, and, when necessary, letting go. If we create the expectation that every project must exist indefinitely, we limit our ability to experiment and innovate.
Because of this, SPTF reviewed two requests concerning the lifecycle of the Sister Projects to work through and demonstrate the review process. We chose Wikispore as a case study for a possible new Sister Project opening and Wikinews as a case study for a review of an existing project. Preliminary findings were discussed with the CAC, and a community consultation on both proposals was recommended.
=== Wikispore ===
The [[m:Wikispore|application to consider Wikispore]] was submitted in 2019. SPTF decided to review this request in more depth because rather than being concentrated on a specific topic, as most of the proposals for the new Sister Projects are, Wikispore has the potential to nurture multiple start-up Sister Projects.
After careful consideration, the SPTF has decided '''not to recommend''' Wikispore as a Wikimedia Sister Project. Considering the current activity level, the current arrangement allows '''better flexibility''' and experimentation while WMF provides core infrastructural support.
We acknowledge the initiative's potential and seek community input on what would constitute a sufficient level of activity and engagement to reconsider its status in the future.
As part of the process, we shared the decision with the Wikispore community and invited one of its leaders, Pharos, to an SPTF meeting.
Currently, we especially invite feedback on measurable criteria indicating the project's readiness, such as contributor numbers, content volume, and sustained community support. This would clarify the criteria sufficient for opening a new Sister Project, including possible future Wikispore re-application. However, the numbers will always be a guide because any number can be gamed.
=== Wikinews ===
We chose to review Wikinews among existing Sister Projects because it is the one for which we have observed the highest level of concern in multiple ways.
Since the SPTF was convened in 2023, its members have asked for the community's opinions during conferences and community calls about Sister Projects that did not fulfil their promise in the Wikimedia movement.[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WCNA_2024._Sister_Projects_-_opening%3F_closing%3F_merging%3F_splitting%3F.pdf <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/Sister_Projects_Task_Force#Wikimania_2023_session_%22Sister_Projects:_past,_present_and_the_glorious_future%22 <nowiki>[2]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>] Wikinews was the leading candidate for an evaluation because people from multiple language communities proposed it. Additionally, by most measures, it is the least active Sister Project, with the greatest drop in activity over the years.
While the Language Committee routinely opens and closes language versions of the Sister Projects in small languages, there has never been a valid proposal to close Wikipedia in major languages or any project in English. This is not true for Wikinews, where there was a proposal to close English Wikinews, which gained some traction but did not result in any action[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_English_Wikinews <nowiki>[4]</nowiki>][https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConvention_francophone/2024/Programme/Quelle_proc%C3%A9dure_pour_ouvrir_ou_fermer_un_projet_%3F <nowiki>[5]</nowiki>, see section 5] as well as a draft proposal to close all languages of Wikinews[https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Proposals_for_closing_projects/Archive_2#Close_Wikinews_completely,_all_languages? <nowiki>[6]</nowiki>].
[[:c:File:Sister Projects Taskforce Wikinews review 2024.pdf|Initial metrics]] compiled by WMF staff also support the community's concerns about Wikinews.
Based on this report, SPTF recommends a community reevaluation of Wikinews. We conclude that its current structure and activity levels are the lowest among the existing sister projects. SPTF also recommends pausing the opening of new language editions while the consultation runs.
SPTF brings this analysis to a discussion and welcomes discussions of alternative outcomes, including potential restructuring efforts or integration with other Wikimedia initiatives.
'''Options''' mentioned so far (which might be applied to just low-activity languages or all languages) include but are not limited to:
*Restructure how Wikinews works and is linked to other current events efforts on the projects,
*Merge the content of Wikinews into the relevant language Wikipedias, possibly in a new namespace,
*Merge content into compatibly licensed external projects,
*Archive Wikinews projects.
Your insights and perspectives are invaluable in shaping the future of these projects. We encourage all interested community members to share their thoughts on the relevant discussion pages or through other designated feedback channels.
=== Feedback and next steps ===
We'd be grateful if you want to take part in a conversation on the future of these projects and the review process. We are setting up two different project pages: [[m:Public consultation about Wikispore|Public consultation about Wikispore]] and [[m:Public consultation about Wikinews|Public consultation about Wikinews]]. Please participate between 27 June 2025 and 27 July 2025, after which we will summarize the discussion to move forward. You can write in your own language.
I will also host a community conversation 16th July Wednesday 11.00 UTC and 17th July Thursday 17.00 UTC (call links to follow shortly) and will be around at Wikimania for more discussions.
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== Latin incunabula and other early books ==
Expanding a bit on what I mentioned above, re character toggling, and also working on the books [[Foenix]] and [[Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae]]
* the Transkribus Latin Incunabula scan does a great job on the heavy gothic style print
* I will see how it does with more Garamond-style texts, in case it works with these
* I have developed a fairly full set of templates for scribal characters, see [[:Categoria:Formulae litterarum]]
* I am thinking about using a bot to wholesale search and replace long s, and other scribal characters mapped there
Between these things, the work to transcribe and correct early printed Latin books should be very much reduced. If anyone feels like helping test this out, do give me shout. Meantime I will run tests on Congestorium Artificiosae Memoriae to check how well the bot system works. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:50, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:The folks at Wikisource helped create a JS solution for this, see [[Usor:JimKillock/incunabula.js]]. The script does a search and replace for what is needed, on the '''first save of a new book page'''; these are the settings for the Incunabula style section of [[Liber:Foenix. Domini Petri Ravennatis memoriae magistri - (Petrus) (IA hin-wel-all-00002799-001).pdf|this scan, p 52 onwards]] for [[Congestorium Artificiose Memorie]]. It seems to work very well and is extremely labour saving! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 22:59, 1 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
== Navigation and validation ==
Hi there,
I would like to do some work on navigation, to provide some "portal" pages similar to EN Wikisource. For example, this would help with learner texts a lot 9I often get asked how to find these texts, I point to the category pages, but these are very basic.
I would also like to know what we should do about page validation. Some really necessary changes are currently languishing in the backlog. This is an admin only task: should we asking for more administrators, or is this something existing admins here can take on? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 14:08, 13 Iulii 2025 (UTC)
:Hi {{U|JimKillock}} good idea, don't hesitate to start and/or ask for help. That said, I'm not sure to see why this is an admin task (even if, yes, the underlying point is true, we need more admins). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:31, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think the Portal namespace and some modules need setting up which require admin permissions, I will dig a bit further and come back to you. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Wikidata Item and Property labels soon displayed in Wiki Watchlist/Recent Changes ==
''(Apologies for posting in English, you can help by translating into your language)''
Hello everyone, the [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Wikidata For Wikimedia Projects]] team is excited to announce an upcoming change in how Wikidata edit changelogs are displayed in your [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlists]] and [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] lists. If an edit is made on Wikidata that affects a page in another Wikimedia Project, the changelog will contain some information about the nature of the edit. This can include a QID (or Q-number), a PID (or P-number) and a value (which can be text, numbers, dates, or also QID or PID’s). Confused by these terms? See the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Glossary|Wikidata:Glossary]] for further explanations.
The upcoming change is scheduled for '''17.07.2025''', between '''1300 - 1500 UTC'''.
The change will display the label (item name) alongside any QID or PIDs, as seen in the image below:
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Further information and context about this change, including how your bot may be affected can be found on this [[m:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|project task page]]. We welcome your questions and feedback, please write to us on this dedicated [[m:Talk:Wikidata_For_Wikimedia_Projects/Clearer_Wikidata_Edit_Summaries/Resolve_Labels|Talk page]].
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== <span lang="en" dir="ltr"> Upcoming Deployment of the CampaignEvents Extension</span> ==
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''(Apologies for posting in English if English is not your first language. Please help translate to your language.)''
The Campaigns Product Team is planning a global deployment of the '''[[:mw:Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents extension]]''' to all Wikisource, including this Wikisource, during the '''week of August 25th'''.
This extension is designed to help organizers plan and manage events, WikiProjects, and other on-wiki collaborations - and to make these efforts more discoverable.
The three main features of this extension are:
* '''[[:m:Event_Center/Registration|Event Registration]]''': A simple way to sign up for events on the wiki.
* '''[[:m:CampaignEvents/Collaboration_list|Collaboration List]]''': A global list of events and a local list of WikiProjects, accessible at '''[[:m:Special:AllEvents|Special:AllEvents]]'''.
* '''[[:m:Campaigns/Foundation_Product_Team/Invitation_list|Invitation Lists]]''': A tool to help organizers find editors who might want to join, based on their past contributions.
'''Note''': The extension comes with a new user right called '''"Event Organizer"''', which will be managed by administrators on this Wikisource. Organizer tools like Event Registration and Invitation Lists will only work if someone is granted this right. The Collaboration List is available to everyone immediately after deployment.
The extension is already live on several wikis, including '''all Wikipedia, Meta, Wikidata''', and more ( [[m:CampaignEvents/Deployment_status#Current_Deployment_Status_for_CampaignEvents_extension| See the full deployment list]])
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Hello, we are the Wikimedia Foundation [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity|Product Safety and Integrity]] team. We would like to announce that '''we plan to enable [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] for this wiki in the week of September 1'''.
Temporary accounts are successfully live on 30 wikis, including many large ones like German, Japanese, and French. The change they bring is especially relevant to logged-out editors, who this feature is designed to protect. But it is also relevant to community members like mentors, patrollers, and admins – anyone who reverts edits, blocks users, or otherwise interacts with logged-out editors as part of keeping the wikis safe and accurate.
'''Why we are building temporary accounts'''
Our wikis should be safer to edit by default for logged-out editors. Temporary accounts allow people to continue editing the wikis without creating an account, while avoiding publicly tying their edits to their IP address. We believe this is in the best interest of our logged-out editors, who make valuable contributions to the wikis and who may later create accounts and grow our community of editors, admins, and other roles. Even though the wikis do warn logged-out editors that their IP address will be associated with their edit, many people may not understand what an IP address is, or that it could be used to connect them to other information about them in ways they might not expect.
Additionally, our moderation software and tools rely too heavily on network origin (IP addresses) to identify users and patterns of activity, especially as IP addresses themselves are becoming less stable as identifiers. Temporary accounts allow for more precise interactions with logged-out editors, including more precise blocks, and can help limit how often we unintentionally end up blocking good-faith users who use the same IP addresses as bad-faith users.
'''How temporary accounts work'''
[[File:Temporary account banner and empty talk page.png|thumb]]
Any time a logged-out user publishes an edit on this wiki, a cookie will be set in this user's browser, and a temporary account tied with this cookie will be automatically created. This account's name will follow the pattern: <code dir=ltr>~2025-12345-67</code> (a tilde, current year, a number). On pages like Recent Changes or page history, this name will be displayed. The cookie will expire 90 days after its creation. As long as it exists, all edits made from this device will be attributed to this temporary account. It will be the same account even if the IP address changes, unless the user clears their cookies or uses a different device or web browser. A record of the IP address used at the time of each edit will be stored for 90 days after the edit. However, only some logged-in users will be able to see it.
'''What does this mean for different groups of users?'''
'''For logged-out editors'''
* This increases privacy: currently, if you do not use a registered account to edit, then everybody can see the IP address for the edits you made, even after 90 days. That will no longer be possible on this wiki.
* If you use a temporary account to edit from different locations in the last 90 days (for example at home and at a coffee shop), the edit history and the IP addresses for all those locations will now be recorded together, for the same temporary account. Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the relevant requirements]] will be able to view this data. If this creates any personal security concerns for you, please contact talktohumanrights at wikimedia.org for advice.
'''For community members interacting with logged-out editors'''
* A temporary account is uniquely linked to a device. In comparison, an IP address can be shared with different devices and people (for example, different people at school or at work might have the same IP address).
* Compared to the current situation, it will be safer to assume that a temporary user's talk page belongs to only one person, and messages left there will be read by them. As you can see in the screenshot, temporary account users will receive notifications. It will also be possible to thank them for their edits, ping them in discussions, and invite them to get more involved in the community.
'''For users who use IP address data to moderate and maintain the wiki'''
* '''For patrollers''' who track persistent abusers, investigate violations of policies, etc.: Users who [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Policy:Access_to_temporary_account_IP_addresses|meet the requirements]] will be able to reveal temporary users' IP addresses and all contributions made by temporary accounts from a specific IP address or range ([[Special:IPContributions]]). They will also have access to useful information about the IP addresses thanks to the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/IP Info|IP Info]] feature. Many other pieces of software have been built or adjusted to work with temporary accounts, including AbuseFilter, global blocks, Global User Contributions, and more. (For information for volunteer developers on how to update the code of your tools – see the last part of the message.)
* '''For admins blocking logged-out editors''':
** It will be possible to block many abusers by just blocking their temporary accounts. A blocked person won't be able to create new temporary accounts quickly if the admin selects the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Autoblock|autoblock]] option.
** It will still be possible to block an IP address or IP range.
* Temporary accounts will not be retroactively applied to contributions made before the deployment. On Special:Contributions, you will be able to see existing IP user contributions, but not new contributions made by temporary accounts on that IP address. Instead, you should use Special:IPContributions for this.
'''Our requests for you, and next steps'''
* If you know of any tools, bots, gadgets etc. using data about IP addresses or being available for logged-out users, you may want to test if they work on [[testwiki:Main_Page|testwiki]] or [[test2wiki:Main_Page|test2wiki]]. If you are a volunteer developer, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers|read our documentation for developers]], and in particular, the section on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/For developers#How should I update my code?|how your code might need to be updated]].
* If you want to test the temporary account experience, for example just to check what it feels like, go to testwiki or test2wiki and edit without logging in.
* Tell us if you know of any difficulties that need to be addressed. We will try to help, and if we are not able, we will consider the available options.
* Look at our [[m:Meta:Babel#Temporary_Accounts:_access_to_IP_addresses_and_next_steps|previous message]] about requirements for users without extended rights who may need access to IP addresses.
To learn more about the project, check out [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/FAQ|our FAQ]] – you will find many useful answers there. You may also [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts/Updates|look at the updates]] (we have just posted one) and [[mw:Newsletter:Product Safety and Integrity|subscribe to our new newsletter]]. If you'd like to talk to me (Szymon) off-wiki, you will find me on Discord and Telegram. Thank you!<section end="body" />
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== All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae ==
I was looking for templates/formulae by looking at <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
All pages in [[Liber:Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Many (all?) pages in [[Liber:Gallia Christiana, 1715, T1.djvu]] are in <nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>, like article [[Gallia Christiana 1715 01/Epistola2]]
These all use [[Formula:Sidenotes begin]]. There is one "[https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&oldid=79709&diff=cur pending change]" on this template. But that change puts the category outside the noinclude.
::<nowiki></noinclude></nowiki>
::<nowiki>[[Categoria:Formulae]]</nowiki>
Please either reject the change or move the categoria line. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 04:17, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], I don't think anyone from the admins is monitoring or actioning pending changes currently. (see discussions re admin queues above.) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 05:29, 31 Augusti 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Shenme}} {{done}} I excluded the categories. {{ping|JimKillock}} no blame but be careful next time, categories should always be excluded. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:28, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|VIGNERON}} It wasn't @JimKillock who made [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Formula:Sidenotes_begin&diff=next&oldid=79709 the problematic change], but someone else [[Usor:Ceciliawolf]]. I noticed the problem, he included the problem a list that got your attention. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 02:46, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|Shenme}} yes, but [[Special:Diff/236794]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 06:57, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Request for admin status ==
Hi all, given that we have quite a lot of admin requests (mostly relating to "pending" changes), I would like to request administrator status so that some of these can be cleared. If anyone else wants to step up to help out, that would also be welcome. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:23, 1 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Ping to @[[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]], @[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] @[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]]:, @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]:, @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]]: in case you feel able to support my request. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:57, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Hi {{U|JimKillock}},
::I apparently missed it, where do we have « a lot of admin requests » ?
::That said, one more admin is always good, so create the request and I'll support it.
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:34, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::Hi @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]],
:::Thank you! On the admin requests, on this page, here are these
:::* [[#All pages in Athanasius Kircher - Turris Babel - 1679 are in Categoria:Formulae]]
:::* [[#It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace]] (which you have replied to)
:::* [[#Navigation and validation]]
:::* [[#Administrator backlog?]]
:::* [[#Toggling special characters such as ſ (long s)]] (altho this has been worked around and may not be needed)
:::Most of these relate to the ''Pending changes'' backlog in various ways; two are requests for new features / modules to be ported across. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:01, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks, I see. It doesn't look like a lot to me, I'll try to deal with it today. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:27, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thank you @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] :) You could also take a look at the pending changes on [[Formula:Pagina_prima/Novae_Aetatis]] and [[Moriae encomium]]. The really big job is going through [[Specialis:PendingChanges|pending changes]] altogether - I understand there is a five year backlog. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 09:36, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::I see... I had a quick look and all changes seem good. Do we even need this extension on Wikisource? Also, if we keep it, I guess we need more reviewers rather than admins (more admins would be useful too, but that's a separate point). Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 10:35, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Of course, the request needs to be supported; without active administrators it is very inconvenient. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:21, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::What do you need us to do? BTW, it would be great to know why edits require administrator approvals. Sorry, but I‘m afraid this makes contributing almost pointless. Many thanks for your help, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 14:15, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::So there are two reasons it would be helpful for me to be an admin; one is if we carry on with the approval system (it looks like we will not) and the other is around updating or adding certain components, modules for example. There may be other tasks I am not aware of that I could help with, but these are the ones I know about. Implementing Portal pages for example needs some work by an admin AIUI.
:::@[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] your question re edits needing approval is [[#Do_we_need_to_approve_changes_to_pages|addressed below, here]].
:::In terms of what you / others need to do, it seems that if there is a consensus to allow me administrator permissions, then a bueaucrat user would implement it (I mistakenly opening a request at meta, and they referred me back here); so we just need to have your views, yes, no, maybe, etc. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:01, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::The page [[Vicifons:Magistratus]], intended for promotion, seems to be protected; I couldn't edit it (''petitio grapheocrat'''ae''''') and add a category ([[:Categoria:Usores]]). [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:23, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, it seems editable now so I [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Petitio_magistratus|added my request there]], if anyone wants to support it. Regarding ''grapheocrates -ae'', how is this declined? Is it otherwise treated as a masculine first declension? Thinking it ought to be added to Wiktionary as it is missing from there. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 17:00, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::This is [https://archive.org/details/calepinusnovus2002/calepinusnovus2002-french-latin/page/n23/mode/1up?q=grapheocrates from Licoppe and Eichenseer]. Yes, this can be added to Wiktionary, I have no experience editing there. Thanks for the corrections, today the system let me in, but yesterday for some unknown reason it didn’t let me in. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:53, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you and no problem. I can add to Wiktionary I hope; is the plural therefore ''grapheocratae''; and is the singular ''grapheocrates'' or ''grapheocrata''? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:14, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, of course. They took the Modern Greek word γραφειοκράτης. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:41, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Great, after a bit of struggle that is at [[:en:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] and [[:la:wiktionary:grapheocrates]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:43, 7 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== It would be nice to have automatic headers for the Liber: namespace ==
It would require someone with interface admin status to create [[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index data config.json]] to replace the current index form parameters ([[MediaWiki:Proofreadpage index attributes|very old system]]) with special care to not mass delete information by unadvertedly changing some parameter's name. [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_index_data_config.json Example from the English Wikisource]. If someone wants to help, please contact me. Regards! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 02:10, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @[[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]], potentially - if I have admin status :) [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 06:54, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Ignacio Rodríguez}} I did a test (by copy-pasting the English page), it works, so no need to be interface admin, being admin is enough.
::I only half understand that paramater page, could you give me the actual content expected ?
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:38, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't remember all the details but I worked on that page in the Spanish Wikisource almost a decade ago. I'll make a mockup in the talk page, but I can't promise to get all the Latin words right. For ease, parameter names and help tooltips will be in English internally, but they will show in Latin in the form. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::::This was added and it now works perfectly. Thanks! [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 16:25, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
== Do we need to approve changes to pages ==
Hi all,
Moving the discussion regarding the backlog at [[Specialis:PendingChanges]]: @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] asks whether we need to have this feature. I suspect it was switched on because of spam, vandalism, or some other similar issue. Without it we might need to be keeping an eye on recent changes. I am not sure how the proteccted changes permissions works, or whether permissions to make approvals to changes can be delegated more widely. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 19:56, 2 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:Changes to pages affecting project *function* must be controlled. But it seems that Pending Changes doesn't actually stop changes to something like a template/formula from having effect? See my report about <nowiki>Formula:Sidenotes begin</nowiki> above.
:And checking a couple of the other initial items in [[Specialis:PendingChanges]], it seems that all pending changes are actually immediately applied to active, visible pages.
:So Pending Changes <u>does not prevent damage</u> to the project. It is <u>merely a tracking and notification method?</u>
:That can be useful, but requires a set of people to be change reviewers. And changes to subject matter would seem to require reviewers knowledgeable about the subject?
:And when changes affect *function*, like templates, who can review and approve those? I'd think only admins.
:The link to monitoring Recent Changes is undeniable. I monitor Recent Changes often at Spanish Wikisource because I've seen the random damage people can do. That is the only way to react quickly to damage. (?) But then that assumes people are checking lists frequently, at least daily.
:Neither Pending Changes or monitoring Recent Changes prevent damage. They can be only part of a solution to damage. I don't know what to think about Pending Changes ''in isolation''. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 03:48, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} I've got mainly two points :
::* vandlism is low to inexistant on la.ws (and it's already low on most Wikisources), making this extension useless and even problematic. Because it doesn't prevent changes but it prevents them to be effective.
::** Apparently the reason to install is [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_VII#protection_of_completed_works_-_Flagged_Revisions_as_an_alternative?]]
::* this extension is actually caleld [[mw:Extension:FlaggedRevs]] and it's deprecated for years (see [[Vicifons:Scriptorium/Vetera_XI#Futrue_of_FlaggedRevs_(Pending_Changes)_extension]] or the warning on the extension itself « Flagged Revisions is complex, poorly documented, very clunky, and not recommended for production use »). Also, people on Wikisource don't seem to really master or even using it (including the reviewers rights). Maybe it's aan opportunity to list exactly what we need and find a new extension that fit these needs.
::In the end, I see a lot of cons and only a few pros...
::Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 07:35, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:I haven't seen any vandalism here in years. But if you fix the errors, the "Pending Changes" status means that the fixes will only be visible to registered users. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 12:10, 3 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|JimKillock|Shenme}} many thanks for your replies. I must admit that I’m an occasional Wikisource (or even Wikipedia contributor). I essentially (or exclusively) contribute corrections.
:Some days ago, I wanted to download an ePub file for the [[Noctes Atticae]] (to do some regexp searches), but the export was wrong. I tried to modify the code (which I have done successfully for the Greek Wikisource many times) and I found out that I needed a ''nihil obstat'' (I’m afraid this would be way to name it).
:Of course, I’m the least interested in vandalism (either contributing it myself, or being any collaborative project being infested/polluted by it). But I think there should be a way of distinguishing between vandalism and non-hardcore (or occasional) contributors.
:I don’t know any perfect system, but it should be worth considering a mixed approach. Approval could be required for: already flagged users (for vandalism) and recent users (how about a five-year publishing embargo?).
:Only to mention a case, my [https://el.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Συμπόσιον_(Πλάτων)&diff=prev&oldid=49677 first contribution to the Greek Wiksource] was in 2012. I don’t know for how long I have been registered in Wikimedia (I guess this was before 2010).
:This isn’t about myself, the issue here is that Wikisource needs contributions to even exist (not to mention for its growth). If no regular user is allowed to contribute without approval, cooperation is basically non-existing.
:Even with approval, the reply times are incredibly slow (because of the system). It is not that attention spans are getting shorter, time is the most scarce resource we all are (and I don’t have weeks or months to see whether I’m allowed to have [[Noctes Atticae]] as ePub).
:Sorry, the sentence in parentheses isn’t a complaint. Please, do as you please, but my contribution is: consider that you might be making contributions way harder, project growth way slower and administrators’ roles way more complicated (probably, than they could and should be).
:Many thanks for your help and your project, --[[Usor:Ousia|Ousia]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ousia|disputatio]]) 17:15, 4 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] I think there is consensus we can switch this off. Let me know if I can help in any way if you think it's time to switch it off. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 18:25, 4 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::{{ping|JimKillock}} thanks for the reminder and agreed for removal, so I created a task on Phabricator here : [[Phab:T406424]]. Cheers, [[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:VIGNERON|disputatio]]) 09:42, 5 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks for filing this @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]] , the Wikimedia tech team seem to have finished their work on this now! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:16, 18 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== Index page error "Error: Invalid interval" ==
I am getting an error: at [[:Liber:Nos in schola latine loquimur - Ars latine loquendi.pdf]] "Error: Invalid interval" for the paginae listing; even when set to <code><nowiki><pagelist 1=1 /></nowiki></code>. Any clues appreciated! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:48, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
:This might be the infamous "0x0 bug" that has plagued Wikisource for two? three? years. Normally it resolves doing a purge in both the file page in Commons and in the local Wikisource. [[Usor:Ignacio Rodríguez|Ignacio Rodríguez]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Ignacio Rodríguez|disputatio]]) 19:34, 5 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that seems to b working now. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 07:53, 6 Septembris 2025 (UTC)
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== Quaestio de Archibaldi Pitcarnii scriptoris operum recensione ==
Quaeso ut videatis [[:en:Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne|Author talk:Archibald Pitcairne]] pro indicio operum Archibaldi Pitcarnii auctoris. Haec opera olim sub pagina Anglica erant posita, sed propter Latinam linguam sublata sunt. Possumusne paginam [[Scriptor:Archibaldus Pitcarnius]](?) creare et haec ibi recensere? [[Specialis:Conlationes/~2025-27371-40|~2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:~2025-27371-40|talk]]) 20:45, 19 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:Libenter tibi pagina scriptoris addetur, ut opera transcriptioni adiungantur! [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:36, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
::Gratias ago! Nota quaeso quod, ubi pagina creata erit, eam etiam in Vicidata addendam esse, sicut Anglica pagina [[:en:Author:Archibald Pitcairne]]. --[[Specialis:Conlationes/~2025-27371-40|~2025-27371-40]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:~2025-27371-40|talk]]) 08:50, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
:::Certe, nexus Vicidata ad alias paginas de Archibaldo creandus est. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:07, 20 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Help us decide the name of the new Abstract Wikipedia project</span> ==
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{{int:Hello}}. Please help pick a name for the new Abstract Wikipedia wiki project. This project will be a wiki that will enable users to combine functions from [[:f:|Wikifunctions]] and data from Wikidata in order to generate natural language sentences in any supported languages. These sentences can then be used by any Wikipedia (or elsewhere).
There will be two rounds of voting, each followed by legal review of candidates, with votes beginning on 20 October and 17 November 2025. Our goal is to have a final project name selected on mid-December 2025. If you would like to participate, then '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|please learn more and vote now]]''' at meta-wiki.
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== Missal transcription: ℣ and ℟ , and ✠ ==
Hi there, @[[Usor:Laura1822|Laura1822]] is transcribing [[Liber:Missale Romanum 1862.djvu]], and needs the characters ℣ and ℟ , and ✠ to display for users, when these are in mainspace. We think it may be necessary to use a special / embedded font to do this, as I think was meant for <nowiki>{{blackletter}}</nowiki> ({{blackletter|exempli gratia}}; see [[Formula:Blackletter/styles.css]], although this does not seem to be calling a font at the moment). Does anyone have any advice about how we would add a webfont to LAWS's CSS, particularly for ℣ and ℟ ; or if there is a way to use an existing webfont with these characters that might be available to us? (Or if there is some other workable solution). [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:58, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== Vandalismus ==
Vidi nuper nonnihil vandalismi, qualis in [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Veni,_Veni_Emmanuel!&curid=12961&diff=244803&oldid=244791 hoc] et [https://la.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=The_Old_Testament_(Vulgate)/Hieremias_propheta&action=history illo] apparuit. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 12:02, 24 Octobris 2025 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees</span> ==
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Applications for the committees open on October 30, 2025. Applications for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on December 11, 2025. Learn how to apply by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Committee appointments|visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki]]. Post to the talk page or email cst[[File:At sign.svg|16x16px|link=|(_AT_)]]wikimedia.org with any questions you may have.
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== Thank You for Last Year – Join Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 ==
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== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Annual review of the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines</span> ==
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I am writing to you to let you know the annual review period for the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines is open now. You can make suggestions for changes through 9 February 2026. This is the first step of several to be taken for the annual review. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Annual review/2026|Read more information and find a conversation to join on the UCoC page on Meta]].
The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. This annual review was planned and implemented by the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|you may review the U4C Charter]].
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== Ad magistratus ==
Magistratus venerabiles, potestisne in [[MediaWiki:Edittools|capsam insertionis]] addere haec: <nowiki><poem>+</poem></nowiki> et <nowiki>{{Versus|+}}</nowiki>? — Dear admins, сan you add to the [[MediaWiki:Edittools|quick insert toolbar]] <nowiki><poem>+</poem></nowiki> et <nowiki>{{Versus|+}}</nowiki>? [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 07:09, 3 Februarii 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]]: done, sorry for the delay. If you need anything else, please ping me, as I don't normally follow the Scriptorium. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:09, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::Gratias ago maximas! [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 08:51, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
== Action Required: Update templates/modules for electoral maps (Migrating from P1846 to P14226) ==
Hello everyone,
This is a notice regarding an ongoing data migration on Wikidata that may affect your election-related templates and Lua modules (such as <code>Module:Itemgroup/list</code>).
'''The Change:'''<br />
Currently, many templates pull electoral maps from Wikidata using the property [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]], combined with the qualifier [[:d:Property:P180|P180]]: [[:d:Q19571328|Q19571328]].
We are migrating this data (across roughly 4,000 items) to a newly created, dedicated property: '''[[:d:Property:P14226|P14226]]'''.
'''What You Need To Do:'''<br />
To ensure your templates and infoboxes do not break or lose their maps, please update your local code to fetch data from [[:d:Property:P14226|P14226]] instead of the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] + [[:d:Property:P180|P180]] structure. A [[m:Wikidata/Property Migration: P1846 to P14226/List|list of pages]] was generated using Wikimedia Global Search.
'''Deadline:'''<br />
We are temporarily retaining the old data on [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] to allow for a smooth transition. However, to complete the data cleanup on Wikidata, the old [[:d:Property:P1846|P1846]] statements will be removed after '''May 1, 2026'''. Please update your modules and templates before this date to prevent any disruption to your wiki's election articles.
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* '''Comment''': The bot is globally approved and active on the top 10 Wikipedia projects. As this wiki has opted out of the global bot policy, I am requesting permission to perform these link updates on {{#language:{{CONTENTLANGUAGE}}}} {{SITENAME}} as well. Please let me know if a local bot flag can be granted or if you have any questions. Thank you. --[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Schlurcher|disputatio]]) 07:53, 7 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]], @[[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]], @[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]], @[[Usor:VIGNERON|VIGNERON]]. Please let me know if Bot status can be granted. --[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Schlurcher|disputatio]]) 06:48, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]]: fine for me, if there are no objections I'll grant it. [[Usor:Candalua|Candalua]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Candalua|disputatio]]) 07:03, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] OK for me too. --[[Usor:Alex brollo|Alex brollo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Alex brollo|disputatio]]) 11:41, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::@[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] Fine for me too. This checked conversions from http to https are important. [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 15:06, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
:::{{Done}} Right granted. @[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]], would you tell us something about you second bot called [[Usor:SchlurcherBotT|SchlurcherBotT]], please? - [[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:OrbiliusMagister|disputatio]]) 15:28, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:OrbiliusMagister|OrbiliusMagister]] Thanks for granting the flag. SchlurcherBotT is my secondary Bot account on Commons to test new functionality within the scope of the tasks approved of SchlurcherBot. It's approved for that on Commons. As I'm editing on Commons with >100 edits per minute on a continuous basis, it's basically impossible for me to track selected edits otherwise. I'm not intending to use that secondary account outside of Commons. --[[Usor:Schlurcher|Schlurcher]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Schlurcher|disputatio]]) 16:14, 17 Aprilis 2026 (UTC)
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== Proofing [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]] ==
If anyone would like to help to do a second proof of [[Liber:PRAETORIUS, Michael - Syntagma musicum 1.djvu]], that would be very welcome! I am helping with this as well. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:01, 12 Maii 2026 (UTC)
== <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Vote now in the 2026 U4C election</span> ==
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Eligible voters are asked to participate in the 2026 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] election. More information–including an eligibility check, voting process information, candidate information, and a link to the vote–are available on Meta at the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Coordinating_Committee/Election/2026|2026 Election information page]]. The vote closes on 2 June 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1780358400 00:00 UTC].
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== Formula:FI ==
{{tl|FI}} is currently broken and ignores the {{para|width}} param. All images are set to the default size, which is usually very large, like in [[Lirica (Ariosto)]]. [[Usor:Trooper57|Trooper57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Trooper57|disputatio]]) 21:06, 31 Maii 2026 (UTC)
:Thank you, I guess we should check how it is behaving in the Italian wiki(s)? [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 08:16, 7 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== Copyright problem? Appropriate for here? ==
What is going on here?
* [[Scriptor:Coronus_Tenebrosius]]
* [[Contemplationes_Metaphysicae]]
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* [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius]]
No statement of copyright. No proof of authorship. paginae vanitatis ? [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 08:24, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Cum iure auctoris problemata non habebimus, si auctor ipse opera exponit. Et si delere consilium capiemus, [[Vicifons:Magistratus#Saumache|magistratus non habemus]], qui hoc faciant. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:37, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:<blockquote>'''Salvete.''' '''Nomen meum est Krunoslav Mrkoci, et ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' est interpretatio nominis mei in linguam Latinam, id est identitas mea Latina.''' '''Confirmo me ipsum auctorem esse omnium operum hic editorum. Opera primum Croatice scripta sunt, hic autem in versione Latina proposita.''' '''Praeterea fere omnia opera mea iam antea Croatice edita sunt in forma typographica. Id praesertim ad carmina mea pertinet, quae primum anno 1998 in libello iuvenili edita sunt, deinde in variis commentariis typis impressis, inter quos eminenter numeratur periodicum litterarium, culturalis et scientificum ''Riječi'' (Latine: ''Verba''), quod bis delectum e carminibus meis protulit.''' '''Item magna pars commentationum aliarumque prosarum, quae hic in linguam Latinam conversa sunt, iam antea et typis et forma electronica in Croatia divulgata est.''' Quaeso ut attendatis ad paginam meam in Wikidata, ubi tam sub nomine Croatico ''Krunoslav Mrkoci'' quam sub nomine Latino ''Coronus Tenebrosius'' ut auctor operum meorum inscriptus sum. Gratias ago pro lectione. '''Coronus Tenebrosius'''.</blockquote> [[Usor:Coronus Tenebrosius|Coronus Tenebrosius]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Coronus Tenebrosius|disputatio]]) 12:23, 9 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
== Copying some templates from the English Wikisource ==
Hello,
Would someone please be able to help me get [[s:en:Template:ppoem|en:Template:ppoem]], [[s:en:blackletter|en:blackletter]], [[s:en:Template:he|en:Template:he]], and [[s:en:Template:grc|en:Template:grc]] available to use on this Wikisource, so I can utilize them here? For the blackletter, I've tried [[Formula:Gothica|Gothica]], but that doesn't seem to be rendering properly.
Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 00:04, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] I made the shortcut for [[Formula:Graeca]]. You should not need any administror rights to do anything you need, I'll take a look into it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 09:46, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:Blackletter is already here, [[:Formula:Gothica]] [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 10:57, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Hi! @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]], thanks! Just for clarification, do I need to make the template pages in Latin, or is it alright to copy them in English? Also, @[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]], I mentioned this above, but for some reason, the Gothica template isn't working for me. See [[Pagina:Polygamia Triumphatrix.pdf/15]], for example. Any idea why that might be the case? [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 16:16, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::@[[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] This wiki lacks proper guidelines and recommendations, I would prefer if you translated the template's name, e.g., [[Formula:spatium]] rather than [[Formula:spatio]] but given the international nature of the project (nobody's mother tongue is Latin) best practice should be to add translated names as shortcuts/redirects. Beware adding templates that are already on the wiki under a different name ([[Formula:grc]] was already at [[Formula:Graeca]]). I took a quick look and it seems the fonts used by the blackletter template are not installed on the wiki; the same template does not seem to work on the French Wikisource either. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 17:40, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::Maybe we have sufficient powers to add the fonts now? Or we can ask someone with additional permissions to do so. But yes I remember now this has been a long standing problem. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:54, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::[https://yaytext.com/fraktur/ This converter] 𝔠𝔬𝔫𝔳𝔢𝔯𝔱𝔰 𝔩𝔢𝔱𝔱𝔢𝔯𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔉𝔯𝔞𝔨𝔱𝔲𝔯 (because it exists in Unicode as separate characters). <s>However, I'm not sure if such text can be found using a regular search.</s> No, Wikipedia search finds it. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 21:48, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::I looked into using the converter, but I'm running into the issue of lack of compatibility with {{[[Formula:Ls|Ls]]}}. Would it be better to just wait for the font to be added? Do we have any idea when that will happen/who needs to be contacted for that to happen?
::::Thanks, [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 19:34, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::::These Unicode characters don't feel right on my labtop, they have heigth issues among other things. I went and asked on two different wikis about the fonts, I will come back to you when I get some answers. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 19:41, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:[[Formula:Poema recte formatum]] or [[Formula:Ppoem]] now work, altho there's issues with the documentation page. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 20:52, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 21:20, 14 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{tl|blackletter}} was not working for me, even after locally installing UnifrakturMaguntia from Google fonts, until I restarted my web browser, which also followed my rebooting. Also, it can't be just any gothic/blackletter font, but must be one of these Fraktur fonts: UnifrakturMaguntia UnifrakturCook Unifraktur. [[Usor:Shenme|Shenme]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Shenme|disputatio]]) 21:19, 15 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:{{ping|Demetrius Talpa|JimKillock|Erblanchard57}} Fonts are downloaded locally, you need to go to Modi/Praeferentiae > Proprietates > Sermonis delectus > Plura > Scripturae and toggle "Download fonts when needed". The option seems not to be that easy to toggle on by default. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 10:56, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Yes, great. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 11:09, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 15:57, 17 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::English WS seems to pull the font in from a repository. I've copied over the module ULS, css etc, would be good to know if it has made any difference. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
:::{{blackletter|fraktur}} etc [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 13:26, 18 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
::::@[[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] I just deactivated the "download fonts when needed" option for a second to see if it would work without it, and it still doesn't. [[Usor:Erblanchard57|Erblanchard57]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Erblanchard57|disputatio]]) 04:32, 19 Iunii 2026 (UTC)
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== De transclusione libri nondum bis perlecti ==
Salvete omnes, I finished the first proofreading pass of Michael Praetorius's [[Liber:PRAETORIUS,_Michael_-_Syntagma_musicum_1.djvu|''Syntagma musicum'' (volume 1)]]. Every page now has the "Proofread" status, except that a few are also "Validated". I expect it will take quite a while before the whole book gets that second read, if it ever will.
My question: is it already acceptable to transclude the text into the main namespace at this stage, even though most pages are only single-proofread rather than validated? Or is there a convention on this Wikisource that a work should be fully validated before merging onto the mainspace?
Gratias vobis ago pro consiliis vestris. [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 09:16, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
:Of course, this is acceptable; the texts there are of very different quality. Besides, transclusion slightly increases the chances that someone will find it for re-examination. [[Usor:Demetrius Talpa|Demetrius Talpa]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Demetrius Talpa|disputatio]]) 20:40, 25 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
::Thank you for confirmation! -- [[Usor:Sakvaka|Sakvaka]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Sakvaka|disputatio]]) 07:02, 26 Iulii 2026 (UTC)
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== Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido ==
[[Usor:Saumache]] paginam “[[Metamorphoses (Apuleius)/Psyche et Cupido]]” [[Specialis:Diff/86153/253177|ad deletionem celerem proposuit]], sed scriptum mihi videtur ex alia editione ortum esse atque ideo non esse delendum. Pittacium idcirco e pagina detraxi. --[[Usor:Grufo|Grufo]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Grufo|disputatio]]) 20:50, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:Nam eaedem quidem editiones sunt, quibusdam minusculis in maiusculas versis litteris formaque apostropharum solum differunt. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 21:08, 9 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
== Formula:Littera s longa: on or off by default ==
Hi @[[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] and others, I noticed that [[:Formula:Littera s longa]] has been changed so that <nowiki>{{s}}</nowiki> produces ſ rather than s by default. This is in contrast to for example English Wikipedia which allows it as a user option, but assumes it is "s" by default.
For other formulae, eg {{um}}, {{us}}, {{que}}, etc these are "off" by default. Likewise {{ae}}, {{oe}} I believe are off by default currently.
There various ways that this can work, for example:
* we could provide a user switch for either state per symbol, etc (with JS, as per EN.WS)
* we can provide advice about applying fonts, etc, that can set ſ, ae/oe ligatures, etc, through css preferences
* CSS can specify some of this per book (not all ligatures, eg {{que}} can be applied through CSS, and it depends on installed fonts in some cases)
* we ''might'' be able to apply a default javascript switch behaviour per book rather than sitewide
I don't have a massive preference for s over ſ, or ae / oe over or æ / œ ; but we should I think at least allow users to easily switch, especially re ſ if it is the default.
Just throwing it out there for discussion, to see what the general feeling / preference would be. [[Usor:JimKillock|JimKillock]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:JimKillock|disputatio]]) 16:40, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
:I lacked the rights to have it be toggled on and off through a gadget, we should ask interface administrators to do it, that should be the best way about it. [[Usor:Saumache|Saumache]] ([[Disputatio Usoris:Saumache|disputatio]]) 22:45, 16 Augusti 2026 (UTC)
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae paulo ante XVI K. Sext. a. 689 (65).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|1.1|1}}Petitionis nostrae, quam tibi summae curae esse scio, huius modi ratio est, quod adhuc coniectura provideri possit. Prensat unus P. Galba. Sine fuco ac fallaciis more maiorum negatur. Ut opinio est hominum, non aliena rationi nostrae fuit illius haec praepropera prensatio. Nam illi ita negant vulgo, ut mihi se debere dicant. Ita quiddam spero nobis profici, cum hoc percrebrescit, plurimos nostros amicos inveniri. Nos autem initium prensandi facere cogitaramus eo ipso tempore, quo tuum puerum cum his litteris proficisci Cincius dicebat, in campo comitiis tribuniciis a. d. XVI Kalend. Sextiles. Competitores, qui certi esse videantur, Galba et Antonius et Q. Cornificius. Puto te in hoc aut risisse aut ingemuisse. Ut frontem ferias, sunt, qui etiam Caesonium putent. Aquilium non arbitrabamur, qui denegavit et iuravit morbum et illud suum regnum iudiciale opposuit. Catilina, si iudicatum erit meridie non lucere, certus erit competitor. De Aufidio et Palicano non puto te exspectare dum scribam. {{pn|1.2|2}}De iis, qui nunc petunt, Caesar certus putatur. Thermus cum Silano contendere existimatur; qui sic inopes et ab amicis et existimatione sunt, ut mihi videatur non esse adunaton Curium obducere. Sed hoc praeter me nemini videtur. Nostris rationibus maxime conducere videtur Thermum fieri cum Caesare. Nemo est enim ex iis, qui nune petunt, qui, si in nostrum annum reciderit, firmior candidatus fore videatur, propterea quod curator est viae Flaminiae, quae tum erit absoluta sane facile. Eum libenter nunc Caesari consuli accuderim. Petitorum haec est adhuc informata cogitatio. Nos in omni munere candidatorio fungendo summam adhibebimus diligentiam, et fortasse, quoniam videtur in suffragiis multum posse Gallia, cum Romae a iudiciis forum refrixerit, excurremus mense Septembri legati ad Pisonem, ut Ianuario revertamur. Cum perspexero voluntates nobilium, scribam ad te. Cetera spero prolixa esse his dumtaxat urbanis competitoribus. Illam manum tu mihi cura ut praestes, quoniam propius abes, Pompei, nostri amici. Nega me ei iratum fore, si ad mea comitia non venerit. Atque haec huius modi sunt.
{{pn|1.3|3}}Sed est, quod abs te mihi ignosci pervelim. Caecilius, avunculus tuus, a P. Vario cum magna pecunia fraudaretur, agere coepit cum eius fratre A. Caninio Satyro de iis rebus, quas eum dolo malo mancipio accepisse de Vario diceret. Una agebant ceteri creditores, in quibus erat L. Lucullus et P. Scipio et, is quem putabant magistrum fore, si bona venirent, L. Pontius. Verum hoc ridiculum est de magistro. Nunc cognosce rem. Rogavit me Caecilius, ut adessem contra Satyrum. Dies fere nullus est, quin hic Satt-rus domum meam ventitet; observat L. Domitium maxime, me habet proximum; fuit et mihi et Quinto fratri magno usui in nostri petitionibus. {{pn|1.4|4}}Sane sum perturbatus cum ipsius Satyri familiaritate tum Domiti, in quo uno maxime ambitio nostra nititur. Demonstravi haec Caecilio simul et illud ostendi, si ipse unus cum illo uno contenderet, me ei satis facturum fuisse; nunc in causa universorum creditorum, hominum praesertim amplissimorum, qui sine eo, quem Caecilius suo nomine perhiberet, facile causam communem sustinerent, aequum esse eum et officio meo consulere et tempori. Durius accipere hoc mihi visus est, quam vellem, et quam homines belli solent, et postea prorsus ab instituta nostra paucorum dierum consuetudine longe refugit. Abs te peto, ut mihi hoc ignoscas et me existimes humanitate esse prohibitum, ne contra amici summam existimationem miserrimo eius tempore venirem, cum is omnia sua studia et officia in me contulisset. Quodsi voles in me esse durior, ambitionem putabis mihi obstitisse. Ego autem arbitror, etiamsi id sit, mihi ignoscendum esse, ''hepei ouch hiereion oude boeien''. Vides enim, in quo cursu simus et quam omnes gratias non modo retinendas, verum etiam acquirendas putemus. Spero tibi me causam probasse, cupio quidem certe.
{{pn|1.5|5}}Hermathena tua valde me delectat et posita ita belle est, ut totum gymnasium eius ''anathema'' esse videatur. Multum te amamus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae paulo post I.<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|2.1|1}}L. Iulio Caesare, C. Marcio Figulo consulibus filiolo me auctum scito salva Terentia. Abs te tam diu nihil litterarum! Ego de meis ad te rationibus scripsi antea diligenter. hoc tempore Catilinam, competitorem nostrum, defendere cogitamus. Iudices habemus, quos volumus, summa accusatoris voluntate. Spero, si absolutus erit, coniunctiorem illum nobis fore in ratione petitionis; sin aliter acciderit, humaniter feremus.
{{pn|2.2|2}}Tuo adventu nobis opus est maturo; nam prorus summa hominum est opinio tuos familiares nobiles homines adversarios honori nostro fore. Ad eorum voluntatem mihi conciliandam maximo te mihi usui fore video. Quare Ianuario mense, ut constituisti, cura ut Romae sis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae exitu a. 687 (67).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|3.1|1}}Aviam tuam scito desiderio tui mortuam esse, et simul quod verita sit, ne Latinae in officio non manerent et in montem Albanum hostias non adducercnt. Eius rei consolationem ad te L. Saufeium missurum esse arbitror. {{pn|3.2|2}}Nos hic te ad mensem Ianuarium exspectamus ex quodam rumore an ex litteris tuis ad alios missis; nam ad me de eo nihil scripsisti. Signa quae nobis curasti, ea sunt ad Caietam eita. Nos ea non vidimus; neque enim exeundi Roma potestas nobis fuit. Misimus, qui pro vectura solveret. Te multum amamus, quod ea abs te diligenter parvoque curata sunt.
{{pn|3.3|3}}Quod ad me saepe scripsisti de nostro amico placando, feci et expertus sum omnia, sed miran dum in modum est animo abalienato. Quibus de suspicionibus etsi audisse te arbitror, tamen ex me, cum veneris, cognosces. Sallustium praesentem re stituere in eius veterem gratiam non potui. Hoc ad te scripsi, quod is me accusare de te solebat. In se expertus est illum esse minus exorabilem, meum studium nec sibi nec tibi defuisse. Tulliolam C. Pisoni L. f. Frugi despondimus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae initio a. 688 (66).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|4.1|1}}Crebras exspectationes nobis tui commoves. Nuper quidem, cum iam te adventare arbitraremur, repente abs te in mensem Quintilem reiecti sumus. Nunc vero sentio, quod commodo tuo facere poteris, venias ad id tempus, quod scribis; obieris Quinti fratris comitia, nos longo intervallo viseris, Acutilianam controversiam transegeris. Hoc me etiam Peducaeus ut ad te scriberem admonuit. Putamus enim utile esse te aliquando eam rem transigere. {{pn|4.2|2}}Mea inter cessio parata et est et fuit. Nos hic incredibili ac singulari populi voluntate de C. Macro transegimus. Cui cum aequi fuissemus, tamen multo maiorem fructum ex populi existimatione illo damnato cepimus quam ex ipsius, si absolutus esset, gratia cepissemus.
{{pn|4.3|3}}Quod ad me de Hermathena scribis, per mihi gratum est. Est ornamentum Academiae proprium meae, quod et Hermes commune omnium et Minerva singulare est insigne eius gymnasii. Quare velim, ut scribis, ceteris quoque rebus quam plurimis eum locum ornes. Quae mihi antea signa misisti, ea non dum vidi; in Formiano sunt, quo ego nunc proficisci cogitabam. Illa omnia in Tusculanum deportabo. Caietam, si quando abundare coepero, ornabo. Libros tuos conserva et noli desperare eos me meos facere posse. Quod si adsequor, supero Crassum divitiis atque omnium vicos et prata contemno.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae paulo ante VI K. Dec. 686 (68<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|5.1|1}}Quantum dolorem acceperim et quanto fructu sim privatus et forensi et domestico Luci fratris nostri morte, in primis pro nostra consuetudine tu existi mare potes. Nam mihi omnia, quae iucunda ex humanitate alterius et moribus homini accidere pos sunt, ex illo accidebant. Quare non dubito, quin tibi quoque id molestum sit, cum et meo dolore moveare et ipse omni virtute officioque ornatissimum tuique et sua sponte et meo sermone amantem adfinem amicumque amiseris.
{{pn|5.2|2}}Quod ad me scribis de sorore tua, testis erit tibi ipsa, quantae mihi curae fuerit, ut Quinti fratris animus in eam esset is, qui esse deberet. Quem cum esse offensiorem arbitrarer, eas litteras ad eum misi quibus et placarem ut fratrem et monerem ut minorem et obiurgarem ut errantem. Itaque ex iis, quae postea saepe ab eo ad me scripta sunt, confido ita esse omnia, ut et oporteat et velimus.
{{pn|5.3|3}}De litterarum missione sine causa abs te accusor. Numquam enim a Pomponia nostra certior sum factus esse, cui dare litteras possem, porro autem neque mihi accidit, ut haberem, qui in Epirum proficisceretur, nequedum te Athenis esse audiebamus. {{pn|5.4|4}}De Acutiliano autem negotio quod mihi mandaras, ut primum a tuo digressu Romam veni, confeceram; sed accidit, ut et contentione nihil opus esset, et ut ego, qui in te satis consilii statuerim esse, mallem Peducaeum tibi consilium per litteras quam me dare. Etenim, cum multos dies aures meas Acutilio dedissem, cuius sermonis genus tibi Dotum esse arbitror, non mihi grave duxi scribere ad te de illius queri monus, cum eas audire, quod erat subodiosum, leve putassem. Sed abs te ipso, qui me accusas, unas mihi scito litteras redditas esse, cum et otii ad scribendum plus et facultatem dandi maiorem habueris.
{{pn|5.5|5}}Quod scribis, etiamsi cuius animus in te esset offensior, a me recolligi oportere, teneo, quid dicas, neque id neglexi, sed est miro quodam modo ad fectus. Ego autem, quae dicenda fuerunt de tc, non praeterii; quid autem contendendum esset, ex tua putabam voluntate me statuere oportere. Quam si ad me perscripseris, intelleges me neque diligentiorem esse voluisse, quam tu esses, neque neglegentiorem fore, quam tu velis. {{pn|5.6|6}}De Tadiana re mecum Tadius locutus est te ita scripsisse, nihil esse iam, quod laboraretur, quoniam hereditas usu capta esset. Id mirabamur te ignorare, de tutela legitima, in qua dicitur esse puella, nihil usu capi posse. {{pn|5.7|7}}Epiroticam emptionem gaudeo tibi placere. Quae tibi mandavi, et quae tu intelleges convenire nostro Tusculano, velim, ut scribis, cures, quod sine molestia tua facere poteris. Nam nos ex omnibus molestiis et laboribus uno illo in loco conquiescimus. {{pn|5.8|8}}Quintum fratrem cotidie exspectamus. Terentia magnos articulorum dolores habet. Et te et sororem tuam et matrem maxime diligit salutemque tibi plurimam ascribit et Tulliola, deliciae nostrae. Cura, ut valeas et nos ames et tibi persuadeas te a me fraterne amari.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae paulo post VI K. Dec. 686 (68).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|6.1|1}}Non committam posthac, ut me accusare de epistularum neglegentia possis; tu modo videto, in tanto otio ut par in hoc mihi sis. Domum Rabilia nam Neapoli, quam tu iam dimensam et exaedificatam animo habebas, M. Fontius emit HS [130,000]. Id te scire volui, si quid forte ea res ad cogitationes tuas pertineret. {{pn|6.2|2}}Quintus frater, ut mihi videtur, quo volumus animo, est in Pomponiam, et cum ea nunc in Arpinatibus praediis erat, et secum habebat hominem ''chrestomathe'', D. Turranium. Pater nobis decessit a. d. IV Kal. Dec.
Haec habebam fere, quae te scire vellem. Tu velim, si qua ornamenta ''gymnasiode'' reperire poteris, quae loci sint eius, quem tu non ignoras, ne praetermittas. Nos Tusculano ita delectamur, ut nobismet ipsis tum denique, cum illo venimus, placeamus. Quid agas omnibus de rebus, et quid acturus sis, fac nos quam diligentissime certiores.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ante Id. Febr. a. 687 (67).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|7.1|1}}Apud matrem recte est, eaque nobis curae est. L. Cincio HS [20,400] constitui me curaturum Idibus Febr. Tu velim ea, quae nobis emisse et parasse scribis, des operam ut quam primum habeamus, et velim cogites, id quod mihi pollicitus es, quem ad modum bibliothecam nobis conficere possis. Omnem spem delectationis nostrae, quam, cum in otium venerimus, habere volumus, in tua humanitate positam habemus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae post Id. Febr. a. 687 (67)<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|8.1|1}}Apud te est, ut volumus. Mater tua et soror a me Quintoque fratre diligitur. Cum Acutilio sum locutus. Is sibi negat a suo procuratore quicquam scriptum esse et miratur istam controversiam fuisse, quod ille recusarit satis dare amplius abs te non peti. Quod te de Tadiano negotio decidisse scribis, id ego Tadio et gratum esse intellexi et magno opere iucundum. Ille noster amicus, vir mehercule optimus et mihi amicissimus, sane tibi iratus est. Hoc si quanti tu aestimes sciam, tum, quid mihi elaborandum sit, scire possim.
{{pn|8.2|2}}L. Cincio HS [20,400] pro signis Megaricis, ut tu ad me scripseras, curavi. Hermae tui Pentelici cum capitibus aeneis, de quibus ad me scripsisti, iam nunc me admodum delectant. Quare velim et eos et signa et cetera, quae tibi eius loci et nostri studii et tuae elegantiae esse videbuntur, quam plurima quam primumque mittas, et maxime quae tibi gymnasii xystique videbuntur esse. Nam in eo genere sic studio efferimur, ut abs te adiuvandi, ab aLus prope reprehendendi simus. Si Lentuli navis non erit, quo tibi placebit, imponito. {{pn|8.3|3}}Tulliola deliciolae nostrae, tuum munusculum flagitat et me ut sponsorem appellat; mi autem abiurare certius est quam dependere.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae Mart. aut Apr. a. 687 (67).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|9.1|1}}Nimium raro nobis abs te litterae adferuntur, cum et multo tu facilius reperias, qui Romam proficiscantur, quam ego, qui Athenas, et certius tibi sit me esse Romae quam mihi te Athenis. Itaque propter hanc dubitationem meam brevior haec ipsa epistula est, quod, cum incertus essem, ubi esses, nolebam illum nostrum familiarem sermonem in alienas manus devenire.
{{pn|9.2|2}}Signa Megarica et Hermas, de quibus ad me scripsisti, vehementer exspecto. Quicquid eiusdem generis habebis, dignum Academia tibi quod videbitur, ne dubitaris mittere et arcae nostrae confidito. Genus hoc est voluptatis meae; quae ''gymnasiode'' maxime sunt, ea quaero. Lentulus naves suas pollicetur. Peto abs te, ut haec diligenter cures. Thyillus te rogat et ego eius rogatu ''Eymolpidon patria''.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ante Quint. a. 687 (67).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|10.1|1}}Cum essem in Tusculano (erit hoc tibi pro illo tuo: "Cum essem in Ceramico ") verum tamen cum ibi essem, Roma puer a sorore tua missus epistulam mihi abs te adlatam dedit nuntiavitque eo ipso die post meridiem iturum eum, qui ad te proficisceretur. Eo factum est, ut epistulae tuae rescriberem aliquid, brevitate temporis tam pauca cogerer scribere.
{{pn|10.2|2}}Primum tibi de nostro amico placando aut etiam plane restituendo polliceor. Quod ego etsi mea sponte ante faciebam, eo nunc tamen et agam studiosius et contendam ab illo vehementius, quod tantum ex epistula voluntatem eius rei tuam perspicere videor. Hoc te intellegere volo, pergraviter illum esse oftensum; sed, quia nullam video gravem subesse causam, magno opere confido illum fore in officio et in nostra potestate.
{{pn|10.3|3}}Signa nostra et Hermeraclas, ut scribis, cum commodissime poteris, velim imponas, et si quod aliud ''oikeion'' eius loci, quem non ignoras, reperies, et maxime quae tibi palaestrae gymnasiique videbuntur esse. Etenim ibi sedens haec ad te scribebam, ut me locus ipse admoneret. Praeterea t tibi mando, quos in tectorio atrioli possim includere, et putealia sigillata duo. {{pn|10.4|4}}Bibliothecam tuam cave cuiquam des pondeas, quamvis acrem amatorem inveneris; nam ego omnes meas vindemiolas eo reservo, ut illud subsidium senectuti parem.
{{pn|10.5|5}}De fratre confido ita esse, ut semper volui et elaboravi. Multa signa sunt eius rei, non minimum, quod soror praegnans est. {{pn|10.6|6}}De comitiis meis et tibi me permisisse memini, et ego iam pridem hoc communibus amicis, qui te exspectant, praedico, te non modo non arcessi a me, sed prohiberi, quod intellegam multo magis interesse tua te agere, quod agendum est hoc tempore, quam mea te adesse comitiis. Proinde eo animo te velim esse, quasi mei negotii causa in ista loca missus esses; me autem eum et offendes erga te et audies, quasi mihi, si quae parta erunt, non modo te praesente, sed per te parta sint. Tulliola tibi dicm dat, sponsorem me appellat.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae Quint. aut Sext. a. 687 (67).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|11.1|1}}Et mea sponte faciebam antea et post duabus epistulis tuis perdiligenter in eandem rationem scriptis magno opere sum commotus. Eo accedebat hortator adsiduus Sallustius, ut agerem quam diligentissime cum Lucceio de vestra vetere gratia reconcilianda. Sed cum omnia fecissem, non modo eam voluntatem eius quae fuerat erga te, recuperare non potui, verum ne causam quidem elicere immutatae voluntatis. Tametsi iactat ille quidem illud suum arbitrium, et ea. quae iam tum, cum aderas, offendere eius animum intellegebam, tamen habet quiddam profecto, quod magis in animo eius insederit, quod neque epistulae tuae neque nostra adlegatio tam potest facile delere, quam tu praesens non modo oratione, sed tuo vultu illo familiari tolles, si modo tanti putaris, id quod, si me audies et si humanitati tuae constare voles, certe putabis. Ac, ne illud mirere, cur, cum ego antea significarim tibi per litteras me sperare illum in nostra potestate fore, nunc idem videar diffidere, incredibile est, quanto mihi videatur illius voluntas obstinatior et in hac iracundia offirmatior. Sed haec aut sanabuntur, cum veneris, aut ei molesta erunt, in utro culpa erit.
{{pn|11.2|2}}Quod in epistula tua scriptum erat me iam arbitrari designatum esse, scito nihil tam exercitum esse nunc Romae quam candidatos omnibus iniquitatibus, nec, quando futura sint comitia, sciri. {{pn|11.3|3}}Verum haec audies de Philadelpho.
Tu velim, quae Academiae nostrae parasti, quam primum mittas. Mire quam illius loci non modo usus, sed etiam cogitatio delectat. Libros vero tuos cave cuiquam tradas; nobis eos, quem ad modum scribis, conserva. Summum me eorum studium tenet sicut odium iam ceterarum rerum; quas tu incredibile est quam brevi tempore quanto deteriores offensurus sis, quam reliquisti.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae K. Ian. 693 (61).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|12.1|1}}Teucris illa lentum sane negotium, neque Cornelius ad Terentiam postea rediit. Opinor, ad Considium, Axium, Selicium confugiendum est; nam a Caecilio propinqui minore centesimis nummum movere non possunt. Sed ut ad prima illa redeam, nihil ego illa impudentius, astutius, lentius vidi. " Libertum mitto, Titomandavi."''Skepseis'' atque ''anabolai'' sed nescio an ''tautomaton hemon''. Nam mihi Pompeiani prodromi nuntiant aperte Pompeium acturum Antonio succedi oportere, eodemque tempore aget praetor ad populum. Res eius modi est, ut ego nec per bonorum nec per popularem existimationem honeste possim hominem defendere, nec mihi libeat, quod vel maximum est. Etenim accidit hoc, quod totum cuius modi sit, mando tibi, ut perspicias. {{pn|12.2|2}}Libertum ego habeo sane nequam hominem, Hilarum dico, ratiocinatorem et clientem tuum. De eo mihi Valerius interpres nuntiat, Thyillusque se audisse scribit haec, esse hominem cum Antonio; Antonium porro in cogendis pecuniis dictitare partem mihi quaeri et a me custodem communis quaestus libertum esse missum. Non sum mediocriter commotus neque tamen credidi, sed certe aliquid sermonis fuit. Totum investiga, cognosce, perspice et nebulonem illum, si quo pacto potes, ex istis locis amove. Huius sermonis Valerius auctorem Cn. Plancium nominabat. Mando tibi plane totum, ut videas cuius modi sit.
{{pn|12.3|3}}Pompeium nobis amicissimum constat esse. Divortium Muciae vehementer probatur. P. Clodium, Appi f., credo te audisse cum veste muliebri deprehensum domi C. Caesaris, cum pro populo fieret, eumque per manus servulae servatum et eductum; rem esse insigni infamia. Quod te moleste ferre certo scio.
{{pn|12.4|4}}Quod praeterea ad te scribam, non habeo, et me hercule eram in scribendo conturbatior. Nam puer festivus anagnostes noster Sositheus decesserat, meque plus quam servi mors debere videbatur, commoverat. Tu velim saepe ad nos scribas. Si rem nullam habebis, quod in buccam venerit, scribito. Kal. Ianuariis M. Messalla, M. Pisone coss.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae VIII K. Ian. a. 693 (61).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|13.1|1}}Accepi tuas tres iam epistulas, unam a M. Cornelio, quam Tribus Tabernis, ut opinor, ei dedisti, alteram, quam mihi Canusinus tuus hospes reddidit, tertiam, quam, ut scribis, ancora soluta de phaselo dedisti; quae fuerunt omnes, ut rhetorum pueri loquuntur, cum humanitatis sparsae sale tum insignes amoris notis. Quibus epistulis sum equidem abs te lacessitus ad rescribendum; sed idcirco sum tardior, quod non invenio fidelem tabellarium. Quotus enim quisque est, qui epistulam paulo graviorem ferre possit, nisi eam pellectione relevarit ? Accedit eo, quod mihi non est notum ut quisque in Epirum proficiscitur. Ego enim te arbitror caesis apud Amaltheam tuam victimis, statim esse ad Sicyonem oppugnandum profectum, neque tamen id ipsum certum habeo, quando ad Antonium proficiscare, aut quid in Epiro temporis ponas. Ita neque Achaicis hominibus neque Epiroticis paulo liberiores litteras committere audeo.
{{pn|13.2|2}}Sunt autem post discessum a me tuum res dignae litteris nostris, sed non committendae eius modi periculo, ut aut interire aut aperiri aut intercipi possint. Primum igitur scito primum me non esse rogatum sententiam praepositumque esse nobis pacificatorem Allobrogum, idque admurmurante senatu neque me invito esse factum. Sum enim et ab observando homine perverso liber et ad dignitatem in re publica retinendam contra illius voluntatem solutus, et ille secundus in dicendo locus habet auctoritatem paene principis et voluntatem non nimis devinctam beneficio consulis. Tertius est Catulus, quartus, si etiam hoc quaeris, Hortensius. Consul autem ipse parvo animo et pravo tamen cavillator genere illo moroso, quod etiam sine dicacitate ridetur, facie magis quam facetiis ridiculus, nihil agens cum re publica, seiunctus ab optimatibus, a quo nihil speres boni rei publicae, quia non vult, nihil speres mali, quia non audet. Eius autem collega et in me perhonorificus et partium studiosus ac defensor bonarum. {{pn|13.3|3}}Qui nunc leviter inter se dissident. Sed vereor, ne hoc, quod infectum est, serpat longius. Credo enim te audisse, cum apud Caesarem pro populo fieret, venisse eo muliebri vestitu virum, idque sacrificium cum virgines instaurrassent, mentionem a Q. Cornificio in senatu tactam (is fuit princeps, ne tu forte aliquem nostrum putes); postea rem ex senatus consulto ad virgines atque ad pontifices relatam idque ab iis nefas esse decretum; diende ex senatus consulto consules rogationem promulgasse; uxori Caesarem nuntium re misisse. In hac causa Piso amicitia P. Clodi ductus operam dat, ut ea rogatio, quam ipse fert et fert ex senatus consulto et de religione, antiquetur. Messalla vehementer adhuc agit severe. Boni viri precibus Clodi removentur a causa, operae comparantur, nosmet ipsi, qui Lycurgei a principio fuissemus, cotidie demitigamur, instat et urget Cato. Quid multa ? Vereor, ne haec neglecta a bonis, defensa ab improbis magnorum rei publicae malorum causa sit. {{pn|13.4|4}}Tuus autem ille amicus (scin, quem dicam?), de quo tu ad me scripsisti, posteaquam non auderet reprehendere, laudare coepisse, nos, ut ostendit, admodum diligit, amplectitur, amat, aperte laudat, occulte, sed ita, ut perspicuum sit, invidet. Nihil come, nihil simplex, nihil ''en tois politikois'' illustre, nihil honestum, nihil forte, nihil liberum. Sed haec ad te scribam alias subtilius; nam neque adhuc mihi satis nota sunt, et huic terrae filio nescio cui committere epistulam tantis de rebus non audeo.
{{pn|13.5|5}}Provincias praetores nondum sortiti sunt. Res eodem est loci, quo reliquisti. ''Topothesian'', quam postulas, Miseni et Puteolorum, includam orationi meae. "A. d. III Non. Decembr." mendose fuisse animadverteram. Quae laudas ex orationibus, mihi crede, valde mihi placebant, sed non audebam antea dicere; nunc vero, quod a te probata sunt, multo mi ''attikotera'' videntur. In illam orationem Metellinam addidi quaedam. Liber tibi mittetur, quoniam te amor nostri ''philretora'' reddidit.
{{pn|13.6|6}}Novi tibi quidnam scribam? quid? etiam. Messalla consul Autronianam domum emit HS [+134,000+]. " Quid id ad me ?" inquies. Tantum, quod ea emptione et nos bene emisse iudicati sumus, et homines intellegere coeperunt licere amicorum facultatibus in emendo ad dignitatem aliquam pervenire. Teucris illa lentum negotium est, sed tamen est in spe. Tu ista confice. A nobis liberiorem epistulam exspecta. VI Kal. Febr. M. Messalla, M. Pisone coss.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae Id. Febr. a. 693 (61).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|14.1|1}}Vereor, ne putidum sit scribere ad te, quam sim occupatus, sed tamen ita distinebar, ut huic vix tantulae epistulae tempus habuerim atque id ereptum e summis occupationibus. Prima contio Pompei qualis fuisset, scripsi ad te antea, non iucunda miseris, inanis improbis, beatis non grata, bonis non gravis; itaque frigebat. Tum Pisonis consulis impulsu levissimus tribunus pl. Fufius in contionem producit Pompeium. Res agebatur in circo Flaminio, et erat in eo ipso loco illo die nundinarum ''panegyris''. Quaesivit ex eo, placeretne ei iudices a praetore legi, quo consilio idem praetor uteretur. Id autem erat de Clodiana religione ab senatu constitutum. {{pn|14.2|2}}Tum Pompeius ''mal aristokratikos'' locutus est senatusque auctoritatem sibi omnibus in rebus maximam videri semperque visam esse respondit et id multis verbis. Postea Messalla consul in senatu de Pompeio quaesivit, quid de religione et de promulgata rogatione sentiret. Locutus ita est in senatu, ut omnia illius ordinis consulta ''genikos'' laudaret, mihique, ut adsedit, dixit se putare satis ab se etiam "de istis rebus" esse responsum. {{pn|14.3|3}}Crassus posteaquam vidit illum excepisse laudem ex eo, quod suspicarentur homines ei consulatum meum placere, surrexit ornatissimeque de meo consulatu locutus est, cum ita diceret, "se, quod esset senator, quod civis, quod liber, quod viveret, mihi acceptum referre; quotiens coniugem, quotiens domum, quotiens patriam videret, totiens se beneficium meum videre." Quid multa? totum hunc locum, quem ego varie meis orationibus, quarum tu Aristarchus es, soleo pingere, de flamma, de ferro (nosti illas ''lekythous'') valde graviter pertexuit. Proximus Pompeio sedebam. Intellexi hominem moveri, utrum Crassum inire eam gratiam, quam ipse praetermisisset, an esse tantas res nostras, quae tam libenti senatu laudarentur, ab eo praesertim, qui mihi laudem illam eo minus deberet, quod meis omnibus litteris in Pompeiana laude perstrictus esset. {{pn|14.4|4}}Hic dies me valde Crasso adiunxit, et tamen ab illo aperte tecte quicquid est datum, libenter accepi. Ego autem ipse, di boni! quo modo ''eneperpereusamen'' novo auditori Pompeio! Si umquam mihi ''periodoi'', si ''kampai'', si ''enthymemata'', si ''kataskeuai'' suppeditaverunt, illo tempore. Quid multa? clamores. Etenim haec erat ''hypothesis'', de gravitate ordinis, de equestri concordia, de consensione Italiae, de intermortuis reliquiis coniurationis, de vilitate, de otio. Nosti iam in hac materia sonitus nostros. Tanti fuerunt, ut ego eo brevior sim, quod eos usque istinc exauditos putem.
{{pn|14.5|5}}Romanae autem se res sic habent. Senatus ''Areios pagos'', nihil constantius, nihil severius, nihil fortius. Nam, cum dies venisset rogationi ex senatus consulto ferendae, concursabant barbatuli iuvenes, totus ille grex Catilinae, duce filiola Curionis et populum, ut antiquaret, rogabant. Piso autem consul lator rogationis idem erat dissuasor. Operae Clodianae pontes occuparant, tabellae ministrabantur ita, ut nulla daretur "VTI ROGAS." Hic tibi in rostra Cato advolat, commulcium Pisoni consuli mirificum facit, si id est commulcium, vox plena gravitatis, plena auctoritatis, plena denique salutis. Accedit eodem etiam noster Hortensius, multi praeterea boni; insignis vero opera Favoni fuit. Hoc concursu optimatium comitia dimittuntur, senatus vocatur. Cum decerneretur frequenti senatu contra pugnante Pisone, ad pedes omnium singillatim accidente Clodio, ut consules populum cohortarentur ad rogationem accipiendam, homines ad quindecim Curioni nullum senatus consultum facienti adsenserunt, ex altera parte facile CCCC fuerunt. Acta res est. Fufius tribunus tum concessit. Clodius contiones miseras habebat, in quibus Lucullum, Hortensium, C. Pisonem, Messallam consulem contumeliose laedebat; me tantum "comperisse" omnia criminabatur. Senatus et de provinciis praetorum et de legationibus et de ceteris rebus decernebat, ut, antequam rogatio lata esset, ne quid ageretur.
{{pn|14.6|6}}Habes res Romanas. Sed tamen etiam illud, quod non speraram, audi. Messalla consul est egregius, fortis, constans, diligens, nostri laudator, amator, imitator. Ille alter uno vitio minus vitiosus, quod iners, quod somni plenus, quod imperitus, quod ''apraktotatos'' sed voluntate ita ''kachektes'', ut Pompeium post illam contionem, in qua ab eo senatus laudatus est, odisse coeperit. Itaque mirum in modum omnes a se bonos alienavit. Neque id magis amicitia Clodi adductus fecit quam studio perditarum rerum atque partium. Sed habet sui similem in magistratibus praeter Fufium neminem. Bonis utimur tribunis pl., Cornuto vero Pseudocatone. Quid quaeris?
{{pn|14.7|7}}Nunc ut ad privata redeam, ''Teukris'' promissa patravit. Tu mandata effice, quae rccepisti. Quintus frater, qui Argiletani aedificii reliquum dodrantem emit HS [725,000], Tusculanum venditat, ut, si possit, emat Pacilianam domum. Cum Lucceio in gratiam redii. Video hominem valde petiturire. Navabo operam. Tu quid agas, ubi sis, cuius modi istae res sint, fac me quam diligentissime certiorem. Idibus Febr.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae XVII K. Mart. a. 693 (61).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|15.1|1}}Asiam Quinto, suavissimo fratri, obtigisse audisti. Non enim dubito, quin celerius tibi hoc rumor quam ullius nostrum litterae nuntiarint. Nunc, quoniam et laudis avidissimi semper fuimus et praeter ceteros ''philellenes'' et sumus et habemur et multorum odia atque inimicitias rei publicae causa suscepimus, ''pantoies aretes mimneskeo'' curaque, effice, ut ab omnibus et laudemur et amemur. {{pn|15.2|2}}His de rebus plura ad te in ea epistula scribam, quam ipsi Quinto dabo. Tu me velim certiorem facias, quid de meis mandatis egeris atque etiam quid de tuo negotio; nam, ut Brundisio profectus es, nullae mihi abs te sunt redditae litterae. Valde aveo scire, quid agas. Idibus Martiis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae Iun. aut Quint. a. 693 (61).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|16.1|1}}Quaeris ex me, quid acciderit de iudicio, quod tam praeter opinionem omnium factum sit, et simul vis scire, quo modo ego minus, quam soleam, proeliatus sim. Respondebo tibi ''hysteron proteron Homerikos''. Ego enim, quam diu senatus auctoritas mihi defendenda fuit, sic acriter et vehementer proeliatus sum, ut clamor concursusque maxima cum mea laude fierent. Quodsi tibi umquam sum visus in re publica fortis, certe me in illa causa admiratus esses. Cum enim ille ad contiones confugisset in iisque meo nomine ad invidiam uteretur, di immortales! quas ego pugnas et quantas strages edidi! quos impetus in Pisonem, in Curionem, in totam illam manum feci! quo modo sum insectatus levitatem senum, libidinem iuventutis! Saepe, ita me di iuvent! te non solum auctorem consiliorum meorum, verum etiam spectatorem pugnarum mirificarum desideravi. {{pn|16.2|2}}Postea vero quam Hortensius excogitavit, ut legem de religione Fufius tribunus pl. ferret, in qua nihil aliud a consulari rogatione differebat nisi iudicum genus (in eo autem erant omnia), pugnavitque, ut ita fieret, quod et sibi et aliis persuaserat nullis illum iudicibus effugere posse, contraxi vela perspiciens inopiam iudicum, neque dixi quicquam pro testimonio, nisi quod erat ita notum atque testatum, ut non possem praeterire. Itaque, si causam quaeris absolutionis, ut iam ''pros to proteron'' revertar, egestas iudicum fuit et turpitudo. Id autem ut accideret, commissum est Hortensi consilio, qui dum veritus est, ne Fufius ei legi intercederet, quae ex senatus consulto ferebatur, non vidit illud, satius esse illum in infamia relinqui ac sordibus quam infirmo iudicio committi, sed ductus odio properavit rem deducere in iudicium, cum illum plumbeo gladio iugulatum iri tamen diceret.
{{pn|16.3|3}}Sed iudicium si quaeris quale fuerit, incredibili exitu, sic uti nunc ex eventu ab aliis, a me tamen ex ipso initio consilium Hortensi reprehendatur. Nam, ut reiectio facta est clamoribus maximis, cum accusator tamquam censor bonus homines nequissimos reiceret, reus tamquam clemens lanista frugalissimum quemque secerneret, ut primum iudices consederunt, valde diffidere boni coeperunt. Non enim umquam turpior in ludo talario consessus fuit, maculosi senatores, nudi equites, tribuni non tam aerati quam, ut appellantur, aerarii. Pauci tamen boni inerant, quos reiectione fugare ille non potuerat, qui maesti inter sui dissimiles et maerentes sedebant et contagione turpitudinis vellementer permovebantur. {{pn|16.4|4}}Hic, ut quaeque res ad consilium primis postulationibus re ferebatur, incredibilis erat severitas nulla varietate sententiarum. Nihil impetrabnt reus, plus accusatori debatur, quam postulabat; triumphabat (quid quaeris?) Hortensius se vidisse tantum; nemo erat, qui illum reum ac non miliens condemnatum arbitraretur. Me vero teste producto credo te ex acclamatione Clodi advocatorum audisse quae consurrectio iudicum facta sit, ut me circumsteterint, ut aperte iugula sua pro meo capite P. Clodio ostentarint. Quae mihi res multo honorificentior visa est quam aut illa, cum iurare tui cives Xenocratem testimonium dicentem prohibuerunt, aut cum tabulas Metelli Numidici, cum eae, ut mos est, circumferrentur, nostri iudices aspicere noluerunt. {{pn|16.5|5}}Multo haec, inquam, nostra res maior. Itaque iudicum vocibus, cum ego sic ab iis ut salus patriae defenderer, fractus reus et una patroni omnes conciderunt; ad me autem eadem frequentia postridie convenit, quacum abiens consulatu sum domum reductus. Clamare praeclari Areopagitae se non esse venturos nisi praesidio constituto. Refertur ad consilium. Una sola sententia praesidium non desideravit. Defertur res ad senatum. Gravissime ornatissimeque decernitur; laudantur iudices; datur negotium magistratibus. Responsurum hominem nemo arbitrabatur. ''Espete nun moi, Moysai--hoppos de proton pur empese''.
Nosti Calvum ex Nanncianis illum, illum laudato rem meum, de cuius oratione erga me honorifica ad te scripseram. Biduo per unum servum et eum ex ludo gladiatorio confecit totum negotium; arcessivit ad se, promisit, intercessit, dedit. Iam vero (o di boni, rem perditam!) etiam noctes certarum mulierum atque adulescentulorum nobilium introductiones non nullis iudicibus pro mercedis cumulo fuerunt. Ita summo discessu bonorum, pleno foro servorum XXV iudices ita fortes tamen fuerunt, ut summo proposito periculo vel perire maluerint quam perdere omnia. XXXI fuerunt, quos fames magis quam fama commoverit. Quorum Catulus cum vidisset quendam, "Quid vos," inquit, " praesidium a nobis postulabatis ? an, ne nummi vobis eriperentur, timebatis?" {{pn|16.6|6}}Habes, ut brevissime potui, genus iudicii et causam absolutionis. Quaeris deinceps, qui nunc sit status rerum et qui meus. Rei publicae statum illum, quem tu meo consilio, ego divino confirmatum putabam, qui bonorum omnium coniunctione et auctoritate consulatus mei fixus et fundatus videbatur, nisi quis nos deus respexerit, elapsum scito esse de manibus uno hoc iudicio, si iudicium est triginta homines populi Romani levissimos ac nequissimos nummulis acceptis ius ac fas omne delere et, quod omnes non modo homines, verum etiam pecudes factum esse sciant, id Talnam et Plautum et Spongiam et ceteras huius modi quisquilias statuere numquam esse factum. {{pn|16.7|7}}Sed tamen, ut te de re publica consoler, non ita, ut sperarunt mali, tanto imposito rei publicae vulnere, alacris exsultat improbitas in victoria. Nam plane ita putaverunt, cum religio, cum pudicitia, cum iudiciorum fides, cum senatus auctoritas concidisset, fore ut aperte victrix nequitia ac libido poenas ab optimo quoque peteret sui doloris, quem improbissimo cuique inusserat severitas consulatus mei. {{pn|16.8|8}}Idem ego ille (non enim mihi videor insolenter gloriari, cum de me apud te loquor, in ea praesertim epistula, quam nolo aliis legi) idem, inquam, ego recreavi adflictos animos bonorum unum quemque confirmans, excitans; insectandis vero exagitandisque nummariis iudicibus omnem omnibus studiosis ac fautoribus illius victoriac ''parresian'' eripui, Pisonem consulem nulla in re consistere umquam sum passus, desponsam homini iam Syriam ademi, senatum ad pristinam suam severitatem revocavi atque abiectum excitavi, Clodium praesentem fregi in senatu cum oratione perpetua plenissima gravitatis tum altercatione huius modi; ex qua licet pauca degustes; nam cetera non possunt habere eandem neque vim neque venustatem remoto illo studio contentionis, quem ''agona'' vos appellatis. {{pn|16.9|9}}Nam, ut Idibus Maiis in senatum convenimus, rogatus ego sententiam multa dixi de summa re publica, atque ille locus inductus a me est divinitus, ne una plaga accepta patres conscripti conciderent, ne deficerent; vulnus esse eius modi, quod mihi nec dissimulandum nec pertimescendum videretur, ne aut ignorando stultissimi aut metuendo ignavissimi iudicaremur: bis absolutum esse Lentulum, bis Catilinam, hunc tertium iam esse a iudicibus in rem publicam immissum. "Erras, Clodi; non te iudices urbi, sed carceri reservarunt, neque te retinere in civitate, sed exsilio privare voluerunt. Quam ob rem, patres conscripti, erigite animos, retinete vestram dignitatem. Manet illa in re publica bonorum consensio; dolor accessit bonis viris, virtus non est imminuta; nihil est damni factum novi, sed, quod erat, inventum est. In unius hominis perditi iudicio plures similes reperti sunt." {{pn|16.10|10}}Sed quid ago ? paene orationem in epistulam inclusi. Redeo ad altercationem. Surgit pulchellus puer, obicit mihi me ad Baias fuisse. Falsum, sed tamen quid hoc? "Simile est," inquam, "quasi in operto dicas fuisse." "Quid," inquit, "homini Arpinati cum aquis calidis?" "Narra," inquam, "patrono tuo, qui Arpinatis aquas concupivit"; nosti enim Marinas." Quousque," inquit, "hunc regem feremus ?" "Regem appellas," inquam, "cum Rex tui mentionem nullam fecerit?"; ille autem Regis hereditatem spe devorarat. "Domum," inquit, "emisti." "Putes," inquam, "dicere: Iudices emisti." "Iuranti," inquit, "tibi non crediderunt." "Mihi vero," in quam, "XXV iudices crediderunt, XXXI, quoniam nummos ante acceperunt, tibi nihil crediderunt." Magnis clamoribus adflictus conticuit et concidit.
{{pn|16.11|11}}Noster autem status est hic. Apud bonos iidem sumus, quos reliquisti, apud sordem urbis et faecem multo melius nunc, quam reliquisti. Nam et illud nobis non obest, videri nostrum testimonium non valuisse; missus est sanguis invidiae sine dolore atque etiam hoc magis, quod omnes illi fautores illius flagitii rem manifestam illam redemptam esse a iudicibus confitentur. Accedit illud, quod illa contionalis hirudo aerarii, misera ac ieiuna plebecula, me ab hoc Magno unice diligi putat, et hercule multa et iucunda consuetudine coniuncti inter nos sumus usque eo, ut nostri isti comissatores coniurationis barbatuli iuvenes illum in sermonibus "Cn. Ciceronem" appellent. Itaque et ludis et gladiatoribus mirandas ''episemasias'' sine ulla pastoricia fistula auferebamus.
{{pn|16.12|12}}Nunc est exspectatio comitiorum; in quae omnibus invitis trudit noster Magnus Auli filium atque in eo neque auctoritate neque gratia pugnat, sed quibus Philippus omnia castella expugnari posse dicebat, in quae modo asellus onustus auro posset ascendere. Consul autem ille deterioris histrionii similis suscepisse negotium dicitur et domi divisores habere; quod ego non credo. Sed senatus consulta duo iam facta sunt odiosa, quod in consulem facta putantur, Catone et Domitio postulante, unum, ut apud magistratus inquiri liceret, alterum, cuius domi divisores habitarent, adversus rem publicam. {{pn|16.13|13}}Lurco autem tribunus pl., qui magistratum insimul cum lege alia iniit, solutus est et Aelia et Fufia, ut legem de ambitu ferret, quam ille bono auspicio claudus homo promulgavit. Ita comitia in a. d. VI Kal. Sext. dilata sunt. Novi est in lege hoc, ut, qui nummos in tribu pronuntiarit, si non dederit, impune sit, sin dederit, ut, quoad vivat, singulis tribubus HS [3,000] debeat. Dixi hanc legem P. Clodium iam ante servasse; pro nuntiare enim solitum esse et non dare. Sed heus tu! videsne consulatum illum nostrum, quem Curio antea ''apotheosin'' vocabat, si hic factus erit, fabam mimum futurum? Quare, ut opinor, ''philosopheteon'', id quod tu facis, et istos consulatus non flocci facteon.
{{pn|16.14|14}}Quod ad me scribis te in Asiam statuissc non ire, equidem mallem, ut ires, ac vereor, ne quid in ista re minus commode fiat; sed tamen non possum reprehendere consilium tuum, praesertim cum egomet in provinciam non sim profectus. {{pn|16.15|15}}Epigrammatis tuis, quae in Amaltheo posuisti, contenti erimus, praesertim cum et Thyillus nos reliquerit, et Archias nihil de me scripserit. Ac vereor, ne, Lucullis quoniam Graecum poema condidit, nunc ad Caecilianam fabulam spectet. {{pn|16.16|16}}Antonio tuo nomine gratias egi eamque epistulam Mallio dedi. Ad te ideo antea rarius scripsi, quod non habebam idoneum, cui darem, nec satis sciebam, quo darem. Valde te venditavi. {{pn|16.17|17}}Cincius si quid ad me tui negotii detulerit, suscipiam; sed nunc magis in suo est occupatus; in quo ego ei non desum. Tu, si uno in loco es futurus, crebras a nobis litteras exspecta; ast plures etiam ipse mittito. {{pn|16.18|18}}Velim ad me scribas, cuius modi sit ''Amaltheion'' tuum, quo ornatu, qua ''topothesiai'', et, quae poemata quasque historias de ''Amaltheioi'' habes, ad me mittas. Lubet mihi facere in Arpinati. Ego tibi aliquid de meis scriptis mittam. Nihil erat absoluti.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae Non. Dec. a. 693 (61).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|17.1|1}}Magna mihi varietas voluntatis et dissimilitudo opinionis ac iudicii Quinti fratis mei demonstrata est ex litteris tuis, in quibus ad me epistularum illius exempla misisti. Qua ex re et molestia sum tanta adfectus, quantam mihi meus amor summus erga utrumque vestrum adferre debuit, et admiratione, quidnam accidisset, quod adferret Quinto fratri meo aut offensionem tam gravem aut commutationem tantam voluntatis. Atque illud a me iam ante intellegebatur, quod te quoque ipsum discedentem a nobis suspicari videbam, subesse nescio quid opinionis incommodae sauciumque esse eius animum et insedisse quasdam odiosas suspiciones. Quibus ego mederi cum cuperem antea saepe et vehementius etiam post sortitionem provinciae, nec tantum intellegebam ei esse offensionis, quantum litterae tuae declararant, nec tantum proficiebam, quantum volebam. {{pn|17.2|2}}Sed tamen hoc me ipse consolabar, quod non dubitabam, quin te ille aut Dyrrachi aut in istis locis uspiam visurus esset; quod cum accidisset, confidebam ac mihi persuaseram fore ut omnia placarentur inter vos non modo sermone ac disputatione, sed conspectu ipso congressuque vestro. Nam quanta sit in Quinto fratre meo comitas, quanta iucunditas, quam mollis animus et ad accipiendam et ad deponendam offensionem, nihil attinet me ad te, qui ea nosti, scribere. Sed accidit perincommode, quod eum nusquam vidisti. Valuit enim plus, quod erat illi non nullorum artificiis inculcatum, quam aut officium aut necessitudo aut amor vester ille pristinus, qui plurimum valere debuit. {{pn|17.3|3}}Atque huius incommodi culpa ubi resideat, facilius possum existimare quam scribere; vereor enim, ne, dum defendam meos, non parcam tuis. Nam sic intellego, ut nihil a domesticis vulneris factum sit, illud quidem, quod erat, eos certe sanare potuisse. Sed huiusce rei totius vitium, quod aliquanto etiam latius patet, quam videtur, praesenti tibi commodius exponam. {{pn|17.4|4}}De iis litteris, quas ad te Thessalonica misit, et de sermonibus, quos ab illo et Romae apud amicos tuos et in itinere habitos putas, ecquid tantum causae sit, ignoro, sed omnis in tua posita est humanitate mihi spes huius levandae molestiae. Nam, si ita statueris, et irritabiles animos esse optimorum saepe hominum et eosdem placabiles et esse hanc agilitatem, ut ita dicam, mollitiamque naturae plerumque bonitatis et, id quod caput est, nobis inter nos nostra sive incommoda sive vitia sive iniurias esse tolerandas, facile haec, quem ad modum spero, mitigabulltur; quod ego ut facias te oro. Nam ad me, qui te unice diligo, maxime pertinet neminem esse meorum, qui aut te non amet aut abs te non ametur.
{{pn|17.5|5}}Illa pars epistulae tuae minime fuit necessaria, in qua exponis, quas facultates aut provincialium aut urbanorum commodorum et aliis temporibus et me ipso consule praetermiseris. Mihi enim perspecta est et ingenuitas et magnitudo animi tui; neque ego inter me atque te quicquam interesse umquam duxi praeter voluntatem institutae vitae, quod me ambitio quaedam ad honorum studium, te autem alia minime reprehendenda ratio ad honestum otium duxit. Vera quidem laude probitatis, diligentiae, religionis neque me tibi neque quemquam antcpono, amoris vero erga me. cum a fraterno amore domesticoque discessi, tibi primas defero. {{pn|17.6|6}}Vidi enim, vidi penitusque perspexi in meis variis temporibus et sollicitudines et laetitias tuas. Fuit mihi saepe et laudis nostrae gratulatio tua iucunda et timoris consolatio grata. Quin mihi nunc te absente non solum consilium, quo tu excellis, sed etiam sermonis communicatio, quae mihi suavissima tecum solet esse, maxime deest--quid dicam? in publicana re, quo in genere mihi neglegenti esse non licet, an in forensi labore, quem antea propter ambitionem sustinebam, nunc, ut dignitatem tueri gratia possim, an in ipsis domesticis negotiis, in quibus ego cum antea tum vero post discessum fratris te sermonesque nostros desidero? Postremo non labor meus, non requies, non negotium, non otium, non forenses res, non domesticae, non publicae, non privatae carere diutius tuo suavissimo atque amantissimo consilio ac sermone possunt.
{{pn|17.7|7}}Atque harum rerum commemorationem verecundia saepe impedivit utriusque nostrum; nunc autem ea fuit necessaria propter eam partem epistulae tuae, per quam te ac mores tuos mihi purgatos ac probatos esse voluisti. Atque in ista incommoditate alienati illius animi et offensi illud inest tamen commodi, quod et mihi et ceteris amicis tuis nota fuit et abs te aliquanto ante testificata tua voluntas omittendae provinciae, ut, quod una non estis, non dissensione ac discidio vestro, sed voluntate ac iudicio tuo factum esse videatur. Quare et illa, quae violata, expiabuntur, et haec nostra, quae sunt sanctissime conservata, suarm religionem obtinebunt.
{{pn|17.8|8}}Nos hic in re publica infirma, misera commutabili que versamur. Credo enim te audisse nostros equites paene a senatu esse diiunctos; qui primum illud valde graviter tulerunt, promulgatum ex senatus consulto fuisse, ut de eis, qui ob iudicandum accepissent, quaereretur. Qua in re decernenda cum ego casu non adfuissem, sensissemque id equestrem ordinem ferre moleste neque aperte dicere, obiurgavi senatum, ut mihi visus sum, summa cum auctoritate, et in causa non verecunda admodum gravis et copiosus fui. {{pn|17.9|9}}Ecce aliae deliciae equitum vix ferendae! quas ego non solum tuli, sed etiam ornavi. Asiam qui de censoribus conduxerunt, questi sunt in senatu se cupiditate prolapsos nimium magno conduxisse, ut induceretur locatio, postulaverunt. Ego princeps in adiutoribus atque adeo secundus; nam, ut illi auderent hos postulare, Crassus eos impulit. Invidiosa res, turpis postulatio et confessio temeritatis. Summum erat periculum, ne, si nihil impetrassent, plane alienarentur a senatu. Huic quoque rei subventum est maxime a nobis perfectumque, ut frequentissimo senatu et libentissimo uterentur multaque a me de ordinum dignitate et concordia dicta sunt Kal. Decembr. et postridie. Neque adhuc res confecta est, sed voluntas senatus perspecta; unus enim contra dixerat Metellus consul designatus. Atqui erat dicturus, ad quem propter diei brevitatem perventum non est, heros ille noster Cato. {{pn|17.10|10}}Sic ego conservans rationem institutionemque nostram tueor, ut possum, illam a me conglutinatam concordiam. Sed tamen, quoniam ista sunt tam infirma, munitur quaedam nobis ad retinendas opes nostras tuta, ut spero, via; quam tibi litteris satis explicare non possum, significatione parva ostendam tamen. Utor Pompeio familiarissime. Video, quid dicas. Cavebo, quae sunt cavenda, ac scribam alias ad te de meis consiliis capessendae rei publicae plura.
{{pn|17.11|11}}Lucceium scito consulatum habere in animo statim petere. Duo enim soli dicuntur petituri, Caesar (cum eo coire per Arrium cogitat) et Bibulus (cum hoc se putat per C. Pisonem posse coniungi). Rides? Non sunt haec ridicula, mihi crede. Quid aliud scribam ad te, quid? Multa sunt, sed in aliud tempus. + exspectare velis, cures ut sciam. Iam illud modeste rogo, quod maxime cupio, ut quam primum venias. Nonis Decembribus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae XIII K. Ian. a. 694 (60).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|18.1|1}}Nihil mihi nunc scito tam deesse uam hominem eum, quocum omnia, que me cura aliqua adficiunt, uno communicem, qui me amet, qui sapiat, quicum ego cum loquar, nihil fingam, nihil dissimulem, nihil obtegam. Abest enim frater ''aphelestatos'' et amantissimus. Metellus non homo, sed "litus atque aer et solitudo mera." Tu autem, qui saepissime curam et angorem animi mei sermone et consilio levasti tuo, qui mihi et in publica re socius et in privatis omnibus conscius et omnium meorum sermonum et consiliorum particeps esse soles, ubinam es? Ita sum ab omnibus destitutus. ut tantum requietis habeam, quantum cum uxore et filiola et mellito Cicerone consumitur. Nam illae ambitiosae nostrae fucosaeque amicitiae sunt in quodam splendore forensi, fructum domesticum non habent. Itaque, cum bene completa domus est tempore matutino, cum ad forum stipati gregibus amicorum descendimus, reperire ex magna turba neminem possumus, quocum aut iocari libere aut suspirare familiariter possimus. Quare te exspectamus, te desideramus, te iam etiam arcessimus. Multa sunt enim, quae me sollicitant anguntque; quae mihi videor aures nactus tuas unius ambulationis sermone exhaurire posse.
{{pn|18.2|2}}Ac domesticarum quidem sollicitudinum aculeos omnes et scrupulos occultabo, neque ego huic epistulae atque ignoto tabellario committam. Atque hi (nolo enim te permoveri) non sunt permolesti, sed tamen insident et urgent et nullius amantis consilio aut sermone requiescunt; in re publica vero, quam quam animus est praesens, tamen vulnus etiam atque etiam ipsa medicina efficit. Nam, ut ea breviter, quae post tuum discessum acta sunt, colligam, iam exclames necesse est res Romanas diutius stare non posse. Etenim post profectionem tuam primus, ut opinor, introitus fuit in causam fabulae Clodianae, in qua ego nactus, ut mihi videbar, locum resecandae libidinis et coercendae iuventutis; vehemens fui et omnes profudi vires animi atque ingenii mei non odio adductus alicuius, sed spe corrigendae et sanandae civitatis. {{pn|18.3|3}}Adflicta res publica est empto constupratoque iudicio. Vide, quae sint postea consecuta. Consul est impositus is nobis, quem nemo praeter nos philosophos aspicere sine suspiritu posset. Quantum hoc vulnus! facto senatus consulto de ambitu, de iudiciis nulla lex perlata, exagitatus senatus, alienati equites Romani. Sic ille annus duo firmamenta rei publicae per me unum constituta evertit; nam et senatus auctoritatem abiecit et ordinum concordiam diiunxit. Instat hic nunc ille annus egregius. Eius initium eius modi fuit, ut anniversaria sacra Iuventatis non committerentur; nam M. Luculli uxorem Memmius suis sacris initiavit; Menelaus aegre id passus divortium fecit. Quamquam ille pastor Idaeus Menelaum solum contempserat, hic noster Paris tam Menelaum quam Agamemnonem liberum non putavit. {{pn|18.4|4}}Est autem C. Herennius quidam tribunus pl., quem tu fortasse ne nosti quidem; tametsi potes nosse, tribulis enim tuus est, et Sextus, pater eius, nummos vobis dividere solebat. Is ad plebem P. Clodium traducit, idemque fert, ut universus populus in Campo Martio suffragium de re Clodi ferat. Hunc ego accepi in senatu, ut soleo, sed nihil est illo homine lentius. {{pn|18.5|5}}Metellus est consul egregius et nos amat, sed imminuit auctoritatem suam, quod habet dicis causa promulgatum illud idem de Clodio. Auli autem filius, o di immortales! quam ignavus ac sine animo miles! quam dignus, qui Palicano, sicut facit, os ad male audiendum cotidie praebeat! {{pn|18.6|6}}Agraria autem promulgata est a Flavio sane levis eadem fere, quae fuit Plotia. Sed interea ''politikos aner oud onar'' quisquam inveniri potest; qui poterat, familiaris noster (sic est enim; volo te hoc scire) Pompeius togulam illam pictam silentio tuetur suam. Crassus verbum nullum contra gratiam. Ceteros iam nosti; qui ita sunt stulti, ut amissa re publica piscinas suas fore salvas sperare videantur. {{pn|18.7|7}}Unus est, qui curet constantia magis et integritate quam, ut mihi videtur, consilio aut ingenio, Cato; qui miseros publicanos, quos habuit amantissimos sui, tertium iam mensem vexat neque iis a senatu responsum dari patitur. Ita nos cogimur reliquis de rebus nihil decernere, ante quam publicanis responsum sit. Quare etiam legationes reiectum iri puto.
{{pn|18.8|8}}Nunc vides quibus fluctibus iactemur, et, si ex iis, quae scripsimus tanta, etiam a me non scripta perspicis, revise nos aliquando et, quamquam sunt haec fugienda, quo te voco, tamen fac ut amorem nostrum tanti aestimes, ut eo vel cum his molestiis perfrui velis. Nam, ne absens censeare, curabo edicendum et proponendum locis omnibus; sub lustrum autem censeri germani negotiatoris est. Quare cura, ut te quam primum videamus. Vale. Kal. Febr. Q. Metello, L. Afranio coss.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae XVII K. Apr. a. 694 (60).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|19.1|1}}Non modo si mihi tantum esset otii, quantum est tibi, verum etiam si tam breves epistulas vellem mittere, quam tu soles, facile te superarem et in scribendo multo essem crebrior quam tu. Sed ad summas atque incredibiles occupationes meas accedit, quod nullam a me volo epistulam ad te sine argumento ac sententia pervenire. Et primum tibi, ut aequum est civi amanti patriam, quae sint in re publica, exponam; deinde, quoniam tibi amore nos proximi sumus, scribemus etiam de nobis ea, quae scire te non nolle arbitramur.
{{pn|19.2|2}}Atque in re publica nunc quidem maxime Gallici belli versatur metus. Nam Haedui fratres nostri pugnam nuper malam pugnarunt, et Helvetii sine dubio sunt in armis excursionesque in provinciam faciunt. Senatus decrevit, ut consules duas Gallias sortirentur, delectus haberetur, vacationes ne valerent, legati cum auctoritate mitterentur, qui adirent Galliae civitates darentque operam, ne eae se cum Helvetiis coniungerent. Legati sunt Q. Metellus Creticus et L. Faccus et, ''to epi tei pakei myron'', Lentulus Clodiani filius. {{pn|19.3|3}}Atque hoc loco illud non queo praeterire, quod, cum de consularibus mea prima sors exisset, una voce senatus frequens retinendum me in urbe censuit. Hoc idem post me Pompeio accidit, ut nos duo quasi pignora rei publicae retineri videremur. Quid enim ego aliorum in me ''epiphonemata'' exspectem, cum haec domi nascantur?
{{pn|19.4|4}}Urbanae autem res sic se habent. Agraria lex a Flavio tribuno pl. vehementer agitabatur auctore Pompeio; quae nihil populare habebat praeter auctorem. Ex hac ego lege secunda contionis voluntate omnia illa tollebam, quae ad privatorum incommodum pertinebant, liberabam agrum eum, qui P. Mucio, L. Calpurnio consulibus publicus fuisset, Sullanorum hominum possessiones confirmabam, Volaterranos et Arretinos, quorum agrum Sulla publicarat neque diviserat, in sua possessione retinebam; unam rationem non reiciebam, ut ager hac adventicia pecunia emeretur, quae ex novis vectigalibus per quinquennium reciperetur. Huic toti rationi agrariae senatus adversabatur suspicans Pompeio novam quandam potentiam quaeri; Pompeius vero ad voluntatem perferendae legis incubuerat. Ego autem magna cum agrariorum gratia confirmabam omnium privatorum possessiones; is enim est noster exercitus, hominum, ut tute scis, locupletium; populo autem et Pompeio (nam id quoque volebam) satis faciebam emptione, qua constituta diligenter et sentinam urbis exhauriri et Italiae solitudinem frequentari posse arbitrabar. Sed haec tota res interpellata bello refrixerat. Metellus est consul sane bonus et nos admodum diligit; ille alter nihil ita est, ut plane, quid emerit, nesciat. {{pn|19.5|5}}Haec sunt in re publica, nisi etiam illud ad rem publicam putas pertinere, Herennium quendam, tribunum pl., tribulem tuum sane hominem nequam atque egentem, saepe iam de P. Clodio ad plebem traducendo agere coepisse. Huic frequenter interceditur. Haec sunt, ut opinor, in re publica.
{{pn|19.6|6}}Ego autem, ut semel Nonarum illarum Decembrium iunctam invidia ac multorum inimicitiis eximiam quandam atque immortalem gloriam consecutus sum, non destiti eadem animi magnitudine in re publica versari et illam institutam ac susceptam dignitatem tueri, sed, posteaquam primum Clodi absolutione levitatem infirmitatemque iudiciorum perspexi, deinde vidi nostros publicanos facile a senatu diiungi, quam quam a me ipso non divellerentur, tum autem beatos homines, hos piscinarios dico amicos tuos, non obscure nobis invidere, putavi mihi maiores quasdam opes et firmiora praesidia esse quaerenda. {{pn|19.7|7}}Itaque primum, eum qui nimium diu de rebus nostris tacuerat, Pompeium adduxi in eam voluntatem, ut in senatu non semel, sed saepe multisque verbis huius mihi salutem imperii atque orbis terrarum adiudicarit; quod non tam interfuit mea (neque enim illae res aut ita sunt obscurae, ut testimonium, aut ita dubiae, ut laudationem desiderent) quam rei publicae, quod erant quidam improbi, qui contentionem fore aliquam mihi cum Pompeio ex rerum illarum dissensione arbitrarentur. Cum hoc ego me tanta familiaritate coniunxi, ut uterque nostrum in sua ratione munitior et in re publica firmior hac coniunctione esse possit {{pn|19.8|8}}Odia autem illa libidinosae et delicatae iuventutis, quae erant in me incitata, sic mitigata sunt comitate quadam mea, me unum ut omnes illi colant; nihil iam denique a me asperum in quemquam fit nec tamen quicquam populare ac dissolutum, sed ita temperata tota ratio est, ut rei publicae constantiam praestem, privatis meis rebus propter infirmitatem bonorum, iniquitatem malevolorum, odium in me improborum adhibeam quandam cautionem et diligentiam atque ita, tametsi his novis amicitiis implicati sumus, ut crebro mihi vafer ille Siculus insusurret Epicharmus cantilenam illam suam: ''Naphe kai memnas apistein; arthra tauta tan phrenon''. Ac nostrae quidem rationis ac vitae quasi quandam formam, ut opinor, vides.
{{pn|19.9|9}}De tuo autem negotio saepe ad me scribis. Cui mederi nunc non possmus; est enim illud senatus consultum summa pedariorum voluntate nullius nostrum auctioritate factum. Nam, quod me esse ad scribendum vides, ex ipso senatus consulto intellegere potes aliam rem tum relatam, hoc autem de populis liberis sine causa additum. Et ita factum est a P. .Servilio filio, qui in postremis sententiam dixit, sed immutari hoc tempore non potest. Itaque conventus, qui initio celebrabantur, iam diu fieri desierunt. Tu si tuis blanditiis tamen a Sicyoniis nummulorum aliquid expresseris, velim me facias certiorem.
{{pn|19.10|10}}Commentarium consulatus mei Graece compositum misi ad te. In quo si quid erit, quod homini Attico minus Graecum eruditumque videatur, non dicam, quod tibi, ut opinor, Panhormi Lucullus de suis historiis dixerat, se, quo facilius illas probaret Romani hominis esse, idcirco barbara quaedam et ''soloika'' dispersisse; apud me si quid erit eius modi, me imprudente erit et invito. Latinum si perfecero, ad te mittam. Tertium poema exspectato, ne quod genus a me ipso laudis meae praetermittatur. Hic tu cave dicas: ''Tis pater ainesei''; si est enim apud homines quicquam quod potius sit, laudetur, nos vituperemur, qui non potius alia laudemus; quamquam non ''egkomiastika'' sunt haec, sed ''istorika'', quae scribimus.
{{pn|19.11|11}}Quintus frater purgat se mihi per litteras et adfirmat nihil a se cuiquam de te secus esse dictum. Verum haec nobis coram summa cura et diligentia sunt agenda; tu modo nos revise aliquando. Cossinius hic, cui dedi litteras, valde mihi bonus homo et non levis et amans tui visus est et talis, qualem esse eum tuae mihi litterne nuntiarant. Idibus Martiis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XX.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae Mai. a. 694 (60).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|20.1|1}}Cum e Pompeiano me Romam recepissem a. d. IV Idus Maias, Cincius noster eam mihi abs te epistulam reddidit, quam tu Idibus Febr. dederas. Ei nunc epistulae litteris his respondebo. Ac primum tibi perspectum esse iudicium de te meum laetor, deinde te in iis rebus, quae mihi asperius a nobis atque nostris et iniucundius actae videbantur, moderatissimum fuisse vehementissime gaudeo idque neque amoris mediocris et ingenii summi ac sapientiae iudico. Qua de re cum ad me ita suaviter, diligenter, officiose, humaniter scripseris, ut non modo te hortari amplius non debeam, sed ne exspectare quidem abs te aut ab ullo homine tantum facilitatis ac mansuetudinis potuerim, nihil duco esse commodius quam de his rebus nihil iam amplius scribere. Cum erimus congressi, tum, si quid res feret, coram inter nos conferemus.
{{pn|20.2|2}}Quod ad me de re publica scribis, disputas tu quidem et amanter et prudenter, et a meis consiliis ratio tua non abhorret; nam neque de statu nobis nostrae dignitatis est recedendum neque sine nostris copiis intra alterius praesidia veniendum, et is, de quo scribis, nihil habet amplum, nihil excelsum, nihil non summissum atque populare. Verum tamen fuit ratio mihi fortasse ad tranquillitatem meorum temporum non inutilis, sed mehercule rei publicae multo etiam utilior quam mihi civium improborum impetus in me reprimi, cum hominis amplissima fortuna, auctoritate, gratia fluctuantem sententiam confirmassem et a spe malorum ad mearum rerum laudem convertissem. Quod si cum aliqua levitate mihi faciendum fuisset, nullam rem tanti aestimassem; sed tamen a me ita sunt acta omnia, non ut ego illi adsentiens levior, sed ut ille me probans gravior videretur. {{pn|20.3|3}}Reliqua sic a me aguntur et agentur, ut non committamus, ut ea, quae gessimus, fortuito gessisse videamur. Meos bonos viros, illos quos significas, et, eam quam mihi dicis obtigisse, ''Spartan'' non modo numquam deseram, sed etiam, si ego ab illa deserar, tamen in mea pristina sententia permanebo. Illud tamen velim existimes, me hanc viam optimatem post Catuli mortem nec praesidio ullo nec comitatu tenere. Nam, ut ait Rhinton, ut opinor, ''Hoi men par oyden eisi, tois d ouden melei''. Mihi vero ut invideant piscinarii nostri, aut scribam ad te alias aut in congressum nostrum reservabo. A curia autem nulla me res divellet, vel quod ita rectum est, vel quod rebus meis maxime consentaneum, vel quod, a senatu quanti fiam, minime me paenitet.
{{pn|20.4|4}}De Sicyoniis, ut ad te scripsi antea, non multum spei est in senatu; nemo est enim, idem qui queratur. Quare, si id exspectas, longum est; alia via, si qua potes, pugna. Cum est actum, neque animadversum est, ad quos pertineret, et raptim in eam sententiam pedarii cucurrerunt. Inducendi senatus consulti maturitas nondum est, quod neque sunt, qui querantur, et multi partim malevolentia, partim opinione aequitatis delectantur.
{{pn|20.5|5}}Metellus tuus est egregius consul; unum reprehendo, quod otium nuntiari e Gallia non magno opere gaudet. Cupit, credo, triumphare. Hoc vellem mediocrius; cetera egregia. Auli filius vero ita se gerit, ut eius consulatus non consulatus sit, sed Magni nostri ''hypopion''.
{{pn|20.6|6}}De meis scriptis misi ad te Graece perfectum consulatum meum. Eum librum L. Cossinio dedi. Puto te Latinis meis delectari, huic autem Graeco Graecum invidere. Alii si scripserint, mittemus ad te; sed, mihi crede, simul atque hoc nostrum legerunt, nescio quo pacto retardantur.
{{pn|20.7|7}}Nunc, ut ad rem meam redeam, L. Papirius Paetus, vir bonus amatorque noster, mihi libros eos, quos Ser. Claudius reliquit, donavit. Cum mihi per legem Cinciam licere capere Cincius, amicus tuus, diceret, libenter dixi me accepturum, si attulisset. Nunc, si me amas, si te a me amari scis, enitere per amicos, clientes, hospites, libertos denique ac servos tuos, ut scida ne qua depereat; nam et Graecis iis libris, quos suspicor, et Latinis, quos scio illum reliquisse, mihi vehementer opus est. Ego autem cotidie magis, quod mihi de forensi labore temporis datur, in iis studiis conquiesco. Per mihi, per, inquam, gratum feceris, si in hoc tam diligens fueris, quam soles in iis rebus, quas me valde velle arbitraris, ipsiusque Paeti tibi negotia commendo, de quibus tibi ille agit maximas gratias, et, ut iam invisas nos, non solum rogo, sed etiam suadeo.
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae m. Iun. a. 694 (60).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|1.1|1}}Kal. Iuniis eunti mihi Antium et gladiatores M. Metelli cupide relinquenti venit obviam tuus puer. is mihi litteras abs te et commentarium consulatus mei Graece scriptum reddidit. in quo laetatus sum me aliquanto ante de isdem rebus Graece item scriptum librum L. Cossinio ad te perferendum dedisse; nam si ego tuum ante legissem, furatum me abs te esse diceres. quamquam tua illa (legi enim libenter) horridula mihi atque incompta visa sunt, sed tamen erant ornata hoc ipso quod ornamenta neglexerant et, ut mulieres, ideo bene olere quia nihil olebant videbantur. meus autem liber totum Isocrati myrothecium atque omnis eius discipulorum arculas ac non nihil etiam Aristotelia pigmenta consumpsit. quem tu Corcyrae, ut mihi aliis litteris significas, strictim attigisti, post autem, ut arbitror, a Cossinio accepisti. quem tibi ego non essem ausus mittere nisi eum lente ac fastidiose probavissem.
{{pn|1.2|2}}quamquam ad me rescripsit iam Rhodo Posidonius se, nostrum illud {{graeca|''ὑπόμνημα''}} <cum> legeret, quod ego ad eum ut ornatius de isdem rebus scriberet miseram, non modo non excitatum esse ad scribendum sed etiam plane deterritum. quid quaeris? conturbavi Graecam nationem. ita vulgo qui instabant ut darem sibi quod ornarent iam exhibere mihi molestiam destiterunt. tu, si tibi placuerit liber, curabis ut et Athenis sit et in ceteris oppidis Graeciae; videtur enim posse aliquid nostris rebus lucis adferre.
{{pn|1.3|3}}Oratiunculas autem et quas postulas et pluris etiam mittam, quoniam quidem ea quae nos scribimus adulescentulorum studiis excitati te etiam delectant. fuit enim mihi commodum, quod in eis orationibus quae Philippicae nominantur enituerat civis ille tuus Demosthenes, et quod se ab hoc refractariolo iudiciali dicendi genere abiunxerat ut {{graeca|''σεμνότερός τις''}} et {{graeca|''πολιτικώτερος''}} videretur, curare ut meae quoque essent orationes quae consulares nominarentur. quarum una est in senatu Kal. Ianuariis, altera ad populum de lege agraria, tertia de Othone, quarta pro Rabirio, quinta de proscriptorum filiis, sexta cum provinciam in contione deposui, septima quom Catilinam emisi, octava quam habui ad populum postridie quam Catilina profugit, nona in contione quo die Allobroges indicarunt, decima in senatu Nonis Decembribus. sunt praeterea duae breves, quasi {{graeca|''ἀποσπασμάτια''}} legis agrariae. hoc totum {{graeca|''σῶμα''}} curabo ut habeas; et quoniam te cum scripta tum res meae delectant, isdem ex libris perspicies et quae gesserim et quae dixerim; aut ne poposcisses; ego enim tibi me non offerebam.
{{pn|1.4|4}}quod quaeris quid sit quo te arcessam, ac simul impeditum te negotiis esse significas neque recusas quin, non modo si opus sit sed etiam si velim, accurras, nihil sane est necesse, verum tamen videbare mihi tempora peregrinationis commodius posse discribere. nimis abes diu, praesertim cum sis in propinquis locis, neque nos te fruimur et tu nobis cares. ac nunc quidem otium est, sed, si paulo plus furor Pulchelli progredi posset, valde ego te istim excitarem. verum praeclare Metellus impedit et impediet. quid quaeris? est consul {{graeca|''φιλόπατρις''}} et, ut semper iudicavi, natura bonus. {{pn|1.5|5}}ille autem non simulat sed plane tribunus pl. fieri cupit. qua <de> re quom in senatu ageretur, fregi hominem et inconstantiam eius reprehendi qui Romae tribunatum pl. peteret cum in Sicilia hereditatem se petere dictitasset, neque magno opere dixi esse nobis laborandum, quod nihilo magis ei liciturum esset plebeio rem publicam perdere quam similibus eius me consule patriciis esset licitum. iam cum se ille septimo die venisse a freto neque sibi obviam quemquam prodire potuisse et noctu se introisse dixisset in eoque se in contione iactasset, nihil ei novi dixi accidisse. “ex Sicilia septimo die Romam; ante tribus horis Roma Interamnam. noctu introisti; idem ante. non est itum obviam; ne tum quidem quom iri maxime debuit.” quid quaeris? hominem petulantem modestum reddo non solum perpetua gravitate orationis sed etiam hoc genere dictorum. itaque iam familiariter cum ipso cavillor ac iocor; quin etiam cum candidatum deduceremus, quaerit ex me num consuessem Siculis locum gladiatoribus dare. negavi. “at ego” inquit “novus patronus instituam; sed soror, quae tantum habeat consularis loci, unum mihi solum pedem dat” “noli,” inquam “de uno pede sororis queri; licet etiam alterum tollas.” non consulare inquies dictum. fateor; sed ego illam odi male consularem. “ea est enim seditiosa, ea cum viro bellum gerit” neque solum cum Metello sed etiam cum Fabio, quod eos †esse in hoc esse† moleste fert.
{{pn|1.6|6}}quod de agraria lege quaeris, sane iam videtur refrixisse. quod me quodam modo molli bracchio de Pompei familiaritate obiurgas, nolim ita existimes, me mei praesidi causa cum illo coniunctum esse, sed ita res erat instituta ut, si inter nos esset aliqua forte dissensio, maximas in re publica discordias versari esset necesse. quod a me ita praecautum atque provisum est non ut ego de optima illa mea ratione decederem sed ut ille esset melior et aliquid de populari levitate deponeret. quem de meis rebus, in quas eum multi incitarant, multo scito gloriosius quam de suis praedicare; sibi enim bene gestae, mihi conservatae rei publicae dat testimonium. hoc facere illum mihi quam prosit nescio; rei publicae certe prodest. quid? si etiam Caesarem cuius nunc venti valde sunt secundi reddo meliorem, num tantum obsum rei publicae?
{{pn|1.7|7}}quin etiam si mihi nemo invideret, si omnes, ut erat aequum, faverent, tamen non minus esset probanda medicina quae sanaret vitiosas partis rei publicae quam quae exsecaret. nunc vero, quom equitatus ille quem ego in clivo Capitolino te signifero ac principe conlocaram senatum deseruerit, nostri autem principes digito se caelum putent attingere si mulli barbati in piscinis sint qui ad manum accedant, alia autem neglegant, nonne tibi satis prodesse videor si perficio ut nolint obesse qui possunt?
{{pn|1.8|8}}nam Catonem nostrum non tu amas plus quam ego; sed tamen ille optimo animo utens et summa fide nocet interdum rei publicae; dicit enim tamquam in Platonis {{graeca|''πολιτείᾳ''}}, non tamquam in Romuli faece sententiam. quid verius quam in iudicium venire qui ob rem iudicandam pecuniam acceperit? censuit hoc Cato, adsensit senatus; equites curiae bellum, non mihi; nam ego dissensi. quid impudentius publicanis renuntiantibus? fuit tamen retinendi ordinis causa facienda iactura. restitit et pervicit Cato. itaque nunc consule in carcere incluso, saepe item seditione commota, aspiravit nemo eorum quorum ego concursu itemque ii consules qui post me fuerunt rem publicam defendere solebant. “quid ergo? istos” inquies “mercede conductos habebimus?” quid faciemus, si aliter non possumus? an libertinis atque etiam servis serviamus? sed, ut tu ais, {{graeca|''ἅλις σπουδῆς''}}.
{{pn|1.9|9}}Favonius meam tribum tulit honestius quam suam, Luccei perdidit. accusavit Nasicam inhoneste ac modeste tamen; dixit ita ut Rhodi videretur molis potius quam Moloni operam dedisse. mihi quod defendissem leviter suscensuit. nunc tamen petit iterum rei publicae causa. Lucceius quid agat scribam ad te cum Caesarem videro, qui aderit biduo.
{{pn|1.10|10}}quod Sicyonii te laedunt, Catoni et eius aemulatori attribuis Servilio. quid? ea plaga nonne ad multos bonos viros pertinet? sed si ita placuit, laudemus, deinde in dissensionibus soli relinquamur?
{{pn|1.11|11}}Amalthea mea te exspectat et indiget tui. Tusculanum et Pompeianum valde me delectant, nisi quod me, illum ipsum vindicem aeris alieni, aere non Corinthio sed hoc circumforaneo obruerunt. in Gallia speramus esse otium. Prognostica mea cum oratiunculis prope diem exspecta et tamen quid cogites de adventu tuo scribe ad nos. nam mihi Pomponia nuntiari iussit te mense Quintili Romae fore. id a tuis litteris quas ad me de censu tuo miseras discrepabat.
{{pn|1.12|12}}Paetus, ut antea ad te scripsi, omnis libros quos frater suus reliquisset mihi donavit. hoc illius munus in tua diligentia positum est. si me amas, cura ut conserventur et ad me perferantur; hoc mihi nihil potest esse gratius. et cum Graecos tum vero diligenter Latinos ut conserves velim. tuum esse hoc munusculum putabo. ad Octavium dedi litteras; cum ipso nihil eram locutus; neque enim ista tua negotia provincialia esse putabam neque te in tocullionibus habebam. sed scripsi, ut debui, diligenter.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. ad villam m. Dec., a. 694 (60).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|2.1|1}}cura, amabo te, Ciceronem nostrum. ei nos theioi videmur. {{pn|2.2|2}}Pellenaion in manibus tenebam et hercule magnum acervum Dicaearchi mihi ante pedes exstruxeram. O magnum hominem et unde multo plura didiceris quam de Procilio! Korinthion et Athenaion puto me Romae habere. mihi +credes lege hec doceo+ mirabilis vir est. Herodes, si homo esset, eum potius legeret quam unam litteram scriberet. qui me epistula petivit, ad te, ut video, comminus accessit. coniurasse mallem quam restitisse coniurationi, si illum mihi audiendum putassem.
{{pn|2.3|3}}de lolio sanus non es; de vino laudo. sed heus tu, ecquid vides Kalendas venire, Antonium non venire? iudices cogi? nam ita ad me mittunt, Nigidium minari in contione se iudicem qui non adfuerit compellaturum. velim tamen si quid est de Antoni adventu quod audieris scribas ad me et, quoniam huc non venis, cenes apud nos utique pridie Kal. Cave aliter facias. cura ut valeas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. ad villam m. Dec. a. 694 (60).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|3.1|1}}primum, ut opinor, euangelia. Valerius absolutus est Hortensio defendente. id iudicium Auli filio condonatum putabatur; et Epicratem suspicor, ut scribis, lascivum fuisse. etenim mihi caligae eius et fasciae cretatae non placebant. quid sit sciemus cum veneris.
{{pn|3.2|2}}fenestrarum angustias quod reprehendis, scito te Kurou paideian reprehendere. nam cum ego idem istuc dicerem, Cyrus aiebat viridariorum diaphaseis latis luminibus non tam esse suavis; etenim esto opsis men he a, to de horomenon b, g, aktines de d kai e. vides enim cetera. nam si kat' eidolon emptoseis videremus, valde laborarent eidola in angustiis. nunc fit lepide illa ekchusis radiorum. cetera si reprehenderis, non feres tacitum, nisi si quid erit eius modi quod sine i sumptu corrigi possit.
{{pn|3.3|3}}venio nunc ad mensem Ianuarium et ad hupostasin nostram ac politeian, in qua Sokratikos eis hekateron sed tamen ad extremum, ut illi solebant,ten areskousan. est res sane magni consili; nam aut fortiter resistendum est legi agrariae, in quo est quaedam dimicatio sed plena laudis, aut quiescendum, quod est non dissimile atque ire in Solonium aut Antium, aut etiam adiuvandum, quod a me aiunt Caesarem sic exspectare ut non dubitet. nam fuit apud me Cornelius, hunc dico Balbum, Caesaris familiarem. is adfirmabat illum omnibus in rebus meo et Pompei consilio usurum daturumque operam ut cum Pompeio Crassum coniungeret.
{{pn|3.4|4}}hic sunt haec, coniunctio mihi summa cum Pompeio, si placet, etiam cum Caesare, reditus in gratiam cum inimicis, pax cum multitudine, senectutis otium. sed me katakleis mea illa commovet quae est in libro tertio:
interea cursus, quos prima a parte iuventae
quosque adeo consul virtute animoque petisti,
hos retine atque auge famam laudesque bonorum.
haec mihi cum in eo libro in quo multa sunt scripta aristokratikos Calliope ipsa praescripserit, non opinor esse dubitandum quin semper nobis videatur heis oionos aristos amunesthai peri patres. sed haec ambulationibus compitaliciis reservemus. tu pridie compitalia memento. Balineum calfieri iubebo. et Pomponiam Terentia rogat; matrem adiungemus. Theophrastou peri philotimias adfer mihi de libris Quinti fratris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. Anti medio circ. m. Aprili a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|4.1|1}}fecisti mihi pergratum quod Serapionis librum ad me misisti; ex quo quidem ego, quod inter nos liceat dicere, millesimam partem vix intellego. pro eo tibi praesentem pecuniam solvi imperavi, ne tu expensum muneribus ferres. at quoniam nummorum mentio facta est, amabo te, cura ut cum Titinio quoquo modo poteris transigas. si in eo quod ostenderat non stat, mihi maxime placet ea quae male empta sunt reddi, si voluntate Pomponiae fieri poterit; si ne id quidem, nummi potius reddantur quam ullus sit scrupulus. valde hoc velim ante quam proficiscare amanter, ut soles, diligenterque conficias. Clodius ergo, ut ais, ad Tigranem!
{{pn|4.2|2}}velim +Sirpiae+ condicione; sed facile patior. accommodatius enim nobis est ad liberam legationem tempus illud, cum et Quintus noster iam, ut speramus, in otio consederit et iste sacerdos bonae deae cuius modi futurus sit scierimus. interea quidem cum Musis nos delectabimus animo aequo, immo vero etiam gaudenti ac libenti, neque mihi umquam veniet in mentem Crasso invidere neque paenitere quod a me ipse non desciverim.
{{pn|4.3|3}}de geographia dabo operam ut tibi satis faciam; sed nihil certi polliceor. Magnum opus est, sed tamen, ut iubes, curabo ut huius peregrinationis aliquod tibi opus exstet.
{{pn|4.4|4}}tu quicquid indagaris de re publica et maxime quos consules futuros putes facito ut sciam. tametsi nimis sum curiosus; statui enim nihil iam de re publica cogitare. {{pn|4.5|5}}Terentiae saltum perspeximus. quid quaeris? praeter quercum Dodonaeam nihil desideramus quo minus Epirum ipsam possidere videamur.
{{pn|4.6|6}}nos circiter Kal. aut in Formiano erimus aut in Pompeiano. tu, si in Formiano non erimus, si nos amas, in Pompeianum venito. id et nobis erit periucundum et tibi non sane devium.
{{pn|4.7|7}}de muro imperavi Philotimo ne impediret quo minus id fieret quod tibi videretur. tu censeo tamen adhibeas Vettium. his temporibus tam dubia vita optimi cuiusque magni aestimo unius aestatis fructum palaestrae Palatinae, sed ita tamen ut nihil minus velim quam Pomponiam et puerum versari in timore ruinae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. Anti medio m. Apr. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|5.1|1}}cupio equidem et iam pridem cupio Alexandream reliquamque Aegyptum visere et simul ab hac hominum satietate nostri discedere et cum aliquo desiderio reverti; sed hoc tempore et his mittentibus aideomai Troas kai Troiadas helkesipeplous quid enim nostri optimates, si qui reliqui sunt, loquentur? an me aliquo praemio de sententia esse deductum? Pouludamas moi protos elencheien anathesei, Cato ille noster qui mihi unus est pro centum milibus. quid vero historiae de nobis ad annos Dc praedicabunt? quas quidem ego multo magis vereor quam eorum hominum qui hodie vivunt rumusculos. sed, opinor, excipiamus et exspectemus. si enim deferetur, erit quaedam nostra potestas et tum deliberabimus. etiam hercule est in non accipiendo non nulla gloria. qua re si quid Theophanes tecum forte contulerit ne omnino repudiaris.
{{pn|5.2|2}}de istis rebus exspecto tuas litteras, quid Arrius narret, quo animo se destitutum ferat, et qui consules parentur, utrum, ut populi sermo, Pompeius et Crassus an, ut mihi scribitur, cum Gabinio Servius Sulpicius, et num quae novae leges et num quid novi omnino, et quoniam Nepos proficiscitur, cuinam auguratus deferatur; quo quidem uno ego ab istis capi possum. vide levitatem meam. sed quid ego haec quae cupio deponere et toto animo atque omni cura philosophein? sic inquam in animo est; vellem ab initio, nunc vero, quoniam quae putavi esse praeclara expertus sum quam essent inania, cum omnibus Musis rationem habere cogito.
{{pn|5.3|3}}tu tamen de Curtio ad me rescribe certius, et nunc quis in eius locum paretur, et quid de P. Clodio fiat, et omnia, quem ad modum polliceris, epi scholes scribe, et quo die Roma te exiturum putes velim ad me scribas, ut certiorem te faciam quibus in locis futurus sim, epistulamque statim des de iis rebus de quibus ad te scripsi. valde enim exspecto tuas litteras.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. Anti medio m. Apr. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|6.1|1}}quod tibi superioribus litteris promiseram, fore ut opus exstaret huius peregrinationis, nihil iam magno opere confirmo; sic enim sum complexus otium ut ab eo divelli non queam. itaque aut libris me delecto, quorum habeo Anti festivam copiam, aut fluctus numero (nam ad lacertas captandas tempestates non sunt idoneae); a scribendo prorsus abhorret animus. etenim geographika quae constitueram magnum opus est. ita valde Eratosthenes, quem mihi proposueram, a Serapione et ab Hipparcho reprehenditur. quid censes si Tyrannio accesserit? et hercule sunt res difficiles ad explicandum et homoeideis nec tam possunt antherographeisthai quam videbantur et, quod caput est, mihi quaevis satis iusta causa cessandi est qui etiam dubitem an hic Anti considam et hoc tempus omne consumam, ubi quidem ego mallem duumvirum quam Romae fuisse.
{{pn|6.2|2}}tu vero sapientior Buthroti domum parasti. sed, mihi crede, proxima est illi municipio haec Antiatium civitas. esse locum tam prope Romam ubi multi sint qui Vatinium numquam viderint, ubi nemo sit praeter me qui quemquam ex viginti viris vivum et salvum velit, ubi me interpellet nemo, diligant omnes! hic, hic nimirum politeuteon; nam istic non solum non licet sed etiam taedet. itaque anekdota quae tibi uni legamus Theopompio genere aut etiam asperiore multo pangentur. neque aliud iam quicquam politeuomai nisi odisse improbos et id ipsum nullo cum stomacho sed potius cum aliqua scribendi voluptate. sed ut ad rem, scripsi ad quaestores urbanos de Quinti fratris negotio. vide quid narrent, ecquae spes sit denari an cistophoro Pompeiano iaceamus. praeterea de muro statue quid faciendum sit. aliud quid? etiam. quando te proficisci istinc putes fac ut sciam.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. Anti medio m. Apr. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|7.1|1}}de geographia etiam atque etiam deliberabimus. orationes autem a me duas postulas; quarum alteram non libebat mihi scribere +qui absciram+, alteram, ne laudarem eum quem non amabam. sed id quoque videbimus. denique aliquid exstabit, ne tibi plane cessasse videamur.
{{pn|7.2|2}}de Publio quae ad me scribis sane mihi iucunda sunt, eaque etiam velim omnibus vestigiis indagata ad me adferas cum venies, et interea scribas si quid intelleges aut suspicabere, et maxime de legatione quid sit acturus. equidem ante quam tuas legi litteras, +in+ hominem ire cupiebam, non me hercule ut differrem cum eo vadimonium (nam mira sum alacritate ad litigandum), sed videbatur mihi, si quid esset in eo populare quod plebeius factus esset, id amissurus. 'quid enim? ad plebem transisti ut Tigranem ires salutatum? narra mihi, reges Armenii patricios resalutare non solent?' quid quaeris? acueram <me> ad exagitandam hanc eius legationem. quam si ille contemnit, et si, ut scribis, bilem id commovet et latoribus et auspicibus legis curiatae, spectaculum egregium. {{pn|7.3|3}}hercule verum ut loquamur, subcontumeliose tractatur noster Publius, primum qui, cum domi Caesaris quondam unus vir fuerit, nunc ne in viginti quidem esse potuerit; deinde alia legatio dicta erat, alia data est. illa opima ad exigendas pecunias Druso, ut opinor, Pisaurensi an epuloni Vatinio reservatur; haec ieiuna tabellari legatio datur ei cuius tribunatus ad istorum tempora reservatur. incende hominem, amabo te, quod potes. Vna spes est salutis istorum inter istos dissensio; cuius ego quaedam initia sensi ex Curione. iam vero Arrius consulatum sibi ereptum fremit; Megabocchus et haec sanguinaria iuventus inimicissima est. accedat vero, accedat etiam ista rixa auguratus. spero me praeclaras de istis rebus epistulas ad te saepe missurum.
{{pn|7.4|4}}sed illud quid sit scire cupio, quod iacis obscure iam etiam ex ipsis quinque viris loqui quosdam. quidnam id est? si est enim aliquid, plus est boni quam putaram. atque haec sic velim existimes non me abs te kata to praktikon quaerere, quod gestiat animus aliquid agere in re publica. iam pridem gubernare me taedebat, etiam cum licebat; nunc vero cum cogar exire de navi non abiectis sed ereptis gubernaculis, cupio istorum naufragia ex terra intueri, cupio, ut ait tuus amicus Sophocles,
kan hupo stegei
puknes akouein psakados heudousei phreni.
{{pn|7.5|5}}de muro quid opus sit videbis. Castricianum mendum nos corrigemus, et tamen ad me Quintus HS cci&;[c] I[c][c] scripserat, +non ad sororem tuam HS xxx. a.+ Terentia tibi salutem dicit. Cicero tibi mandat ut Aristodemo idem de se respondeas quod de fratre suo, sororis tuae filio, respondisti. de Amaltheiai quod me admones non neglegemus. cura ut valeas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Anti medio m. Apr. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|8.1|1}}epistulam cum a te avide exspectarem ad vesperum, ut soleo, ecce tibi nuntius pueros venisse Roma! voco, quaero ecquid litterarum. negant. 'quid ais?' inquam 'nihilne a Pomponio?' perterriti voce et vultu confessi sunt se accepisse sed excidisse in via. quid quaeris? permoleste tuli; nulla enim abs te per hos dies epistula inanis aliqua re utili et suavi venerat. nunc si quid in ea epistula quam ante diem xvi Kal. Maias dedisti fuit historia dignum, scribe quam primum, ne ignoremus; sin nihil praeter iocationem, redde id ipsum. et scito Curionem adulescentem venisse ad me salutatum. valde eius sermo de Publio cum tuis litteris congruebat; ipse vero mirandum in modum 'reges odisse superbos.' peraeque narrabat incensam esse iuventutem neque ferre haec posse. bene habemus nos, si in his spes est; opinor, aliud agamus. ego me do historiae; quamquam licet me Saufeium putes esse. nihil me est inertius.
{{pn|8.2|2}}sed cognosce itinera nostra, ut statuas ubi nos visurus sis. in Formianum volumus venire parilibus; inde, quoniam putas praetermittendum nobis esse hoc tempore cratera illum delicatum, Kal. Maias de Formiano proficiscemur, ut Anti simus a. d. v Nonas Maias. ludi enim Anti futuri sunt a iiii ad pr. Nonas Maias. Eos Tullia spectare vult. Inde cogito in Tusculanum, deinde Arpinum, Romam ad Kal. Iunias. te aut in Formiano aut Anti aut in Tusculano cura ut videamus. epistulam superiorem restitue nobis et appinge aliquid novi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Anti medio m. Apr. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|9.1|1}}subito cum mihi dixisset Caecilius quaestor puerum se Romam mittere, haec scripsi raptim, ut tuos <elicerem> mirificos cum Publio dialogos, cum eos de quibus scribis, tum illum quem abdis et ais longum esse quae ad ea responderis perscribere; illum vero qui nondum habitus est, quem illa boopis, cum e Solonio redierit, ad te est relatura, sic velim putes, nihil hoc posse mihi esse iucundius. si vero quae de me pacta sunt ea non servantur, in caelo sum, ut sciat hic noster Hierosolymarius traductor ad plebem quam bonam meis putissimis orationibus gratiam rettulerit. quarum exspecta divinam palinoidian. etenim quantum coniectura auguramur, si erit nebulo iste cum his dynastis in gratia, non modo de cynico consulari sed ne de istis quidem piscinarum Tritonibus poterit se iactare. non enim poterimus ulla esse invidia spoliati opibus et illa senatoria potentia. sin autem ab iis dissentiet, erit absurdum in nos invehi. verum tamen invehatur. Festive, mihi crede, et minore sonitu quam putaram, orbis hic in re publica est conversus citius omnino quam potuit; +id culpa Catonis, sed rursus improbitate istorum qui auspicia, qui Aeliam legem, qui Iuniam et Liciniam, qui Caeciliam et Didiam neglexerunt, qui omnia remedia rei publicae effuderunt, qui regna qui praedia tetrarchis, qui immanis pecunias paucis dederunt.
{{pn|9.2|2}}video iam quo invidia transeat et ubi sit habitatura. nihil me existimaris neque usu neque a Theophrasto didicisse, nisi brevi tempore desiderari nostra illa tempora videris. etenim si fuit invidiosa senatus potentia, cum ea non ad populum sed ad tris homines immoderatos redacta sit, quid iam censes fore? proinde isti licet faciant quos volent consules, tribunos pl., denique etiam Vatini strumam sacerdoti dibaphoi vestiant, videbis brevi tempore magnos non modo eos qui nihil titubarunt sed etiam illum ipsum qui peccavit Catonem.
{{pn|9.3|3}}nam nos quidem, si per istum tuum a sodalem Publium licebit, sophisteuein cogitamus, si ille +cogitat tantum+, dumtaxat nos defendere, et, quod est proprium artis huius, epangellomai andr' apamunesthai hote tis proteros chalepenei patria propitia sit. habet a nobis, etiam si non plus quam debitum est, plus certe quam postulatum est. male vehi malo alio gubernante quam tam ingratis vectoribus bene gubernare.
{{pn|9.4|4}}sed haec coram commodius. nunc audi quod quaeris. Antium me ex Formiano recipere cogito a. d. v Nonas Maias; Antio volo Nonis Maus proficisci in Tusculanum. sed cum e Formiano rediero (ibi esse usque ad pr. K. Maias volo), faciam statim te certiorem. Terentia tibi salutem, kai Kikeron ho mikros aspazetai Titon ton Athenaion.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. ab Appi Foro xii K. Apr. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|10.1|1}}volo ames meam constantiam. ludos Anti spectare non placet; est enim huposoloikon, quom velim vitare omnium deliciarum suspicionem, repente anaphainesthai non solum delicate sed etiam inepte peregrinantem. qua re usque ad Nonas Maias te in Formiano exspectabo. nunc fac ut sciam quo die te visuri simus. ab Appi foro hora quarta. dederam aliam paulo ante a tribus tabernis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Formiano circ. vi K. Mai. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|11.1|1}}narro tibi, plane relegatus mihi videor postea quam in Formiano sum. dies enim nullus erat, Anti cum essem, quo die non melius scirem Romae quid ageretur quam ii qui erant Romae. etenim litterae tuae non solum quid Romae sed etiam quid in re publica, neque solum quid fieret verum etiam quid futurum esset indicabant. nunc nisi si quid ex praetereunte viatore exceptum est, scire nihil possumus. qua re quamquam iam te ipsum exspecto, tamen isti puero quem ad me statim iussi recurrere da ponderosam aliquam epistulam plenam omnium non modo actorum sed etiam opinionum tuarum, ac diem quo Roma sis exiturus cura ut sciam. nos in Formiano esse volumus usque ad prid. Nonas Maias. eo si ante eam diem non veneris, Romae te fortasse videbo; nam Arpinum quid ego te invitem?
trechei', all' agathe kourotrophos, out' ar' egoge
hes gaies dunamai glukeroteron allo idesthai.
haec igitur. cura ut valeas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. a Tribus Tabernis xiii K. Mai. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|12.1|1}}negent illi Publium plebeium factum esse? hoc vero regnum est et ferri nullo pacto potest. emittat ad me Publius qui obsignent; iurabo Gnaeum nostrum, conlegam Balbi, Anti mihi narrasse se in auspicio fuisse. O suavis epistulas tuas uno tempore mihi datas duas! quibus euangelia quae reddam nescio; deberi quidem plane fateor. sed vide sunkurema.
{{pn|12.2|2}}emerseram commodum ex Antiati in Appiam ad tris tabernas ipsis Cerialibus, cum in me incurrit Roma veniens Curio meus. ibidem ilico puer abs te cum epistulis. ille ex me, nihilne audissem novi. ego negare. 'Publius' inquit 'tribunatum pl. petit.' 'quid ais?' 'et inimicissimus quidem Caesaris, et ut omnia' inquit 'ista rescindat.' 'quid Caesar?' inquam 'negat se quicquam de illius adoptione tulisse.' deinde suum, Memmi, Metelli Nepotis exprompsit odium. complexus iuvenem dimisi properans ad epistulas. Vbi sunt qui aiunt zoses phones? quanto magis vidi ex tuis litteris quam ex illius sermone quid ageretur, de ruminatione cotidiana, de cogitatione Publi, de lituis boopidos, de signifero Athenione, de litteris missis ad Gnaeum, de Theophanis Memmique sermone; quantam porro mihi exspectationem dedisti convivi istius aselgous! sum in curiositate oxupeinos, sed tamen facile patior te id ad me sumposion non scribere; praesentem audire malo.
{{pn|12.3|3}}quod me ut scribam aliquid hortaris, crescit mihi quidem materies, ut dicis, sed tota res etiam nunc fluctuat, kat' oporen trux. quae si desederit, magis erunt liquata quae scribam. quae si statim a me ferre non potueris, primus habebis tamen et aliquamdiu solus.
{{pn|12.4|4}}Dicaearchum recte amas; luculentus homo est et civis haud paulo melior quam isti nostri adikaiarchoi. Litteras scripsi hora decima Cerialibus statim ut tuas legeram, sed eas eram daturus, ut putaram, postridie ei qui mihi primus obviam venisset. Terentia delectata est tuis litteris; impertit tibi multam salutem, kai Kikeron ho philosophos ton politikon Titon aspazetai.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Formiano m. Apr. circ. v K. Mai. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|13.1|1}}facinus indignum! epistulam authorei tibi a tribus tabernis rescriptam ad tuas suavissimas epistulas neminem reddidisse! at scito eum fasciculum, quo illam conieceram, domum eo ipso die latum esse quo ego dederam et ad me in Formianum relatum esse. itaque tibi tuam epistulam iussi referri, ex qua intellegeres quam mihi tum illae gratae fuissent.
{{pn|13.2|2}}Romae quod scribis sileri, ita putabam; at hercule in agris non siletur, nec iam ipsi agri regnum vestrum ferre possunt. si vero in hanc Telepulon veneris Laistrugonien, Formias dico, qui fremitus hominum! quam irati animi! quanto in odio noster amicus Magnus! cuius cognomen una cum Crassi divitis cognomine consenescit. credas mihi velim, neminem adhuc offendi qui haec tam lente quam ego fero ferret. qua re, mihi crede, philosophomen. iuratus tibi possum dicere nihil esse tanti. tu si litteras ad Sicyonios habes, advola in Formianum, unde nos pridie Nonas Maias cogitamus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. in Formiano circ. iv K. Mai. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|14.1|1}}quantam tu mihi moves exspectationem de sermone Bibuli, quantam de colloquio boopidos, quantam etiam de illo delicato convivio! proinde ita fac venias ut ad sitientis auris. quamquam nihil est iam quod magis timendum nobis putem quam ne ille noster Sampsiceramus, quom se omnium sermonibus sentiet vapulare et quom has actiones euanatreptous videbit, ruere incipiat. ego autem usque eo sum enervatus ut hoc otio quo nunc tabescimus malim enturanneisthai quam cum optima spe dimicare.
{{pn|14.2|2}}de pangendo quod me crebro adhortaris, fieri nihil potest. basilicam habeo non villam frequentia Formianorum +ad quam partem basilicae tribum Aemiliam+. sed omitto vulgus; post horam quartam molesti ceteri non sunt. C. Arrius proximus est vicinus, immo ille quidem iam contubernalis, qui etiam se idcirco Romam ire negat ut hic mecum totos dies philosophetur. ecce ex altera parte Sebosus, ille Catuli familiaris. quo me vertam? statim me hercule Arpinum irem, ni te in Formiano commodissime exspectari viderem dumtaxat ad pr. Nonas Maias; vides enim quibus hominibus aures sint deditae meae. <O> occasionem mirificam, si qui nunc dum hi apud me sunt emere de me fundum Formianum velit! et tamen illud probem: 'Magnum quid adgrediamur et multae cogitationis atque oti'? sed tamen satis fiet a nobis neque parcetur labori.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. in Formiano circ. iii K. Mai. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|15.1|1}}Vt scribis ita video non minus incerta in re publica quam in epistula tua, sed tamen ista ipsa me varietas sermonum opinionumque delectat. Romae enim videor esse cum tuas litteras lego et, ut fit in tantis rebus, modo hoc modo illud audire. illud tamen explicare non possum quidnam inveniri possit nullo recusante ad facultatem agrariam.
{{pn|15.2|2}}Bibuli autem ista magnitudo animi in comitiorum dilatione quid habet nisi ipsius iudicium sine ulla correctione rei publicae? nimirum in Publio spes est. fiat, fiat tribunus pl., si nihil aliud ut eo citius tu ex Epiro revertare; nam ut illo tu careas non video posse fieri, praesertim si mecum aliquid volet disputare. sed id quidem non dubium est quin si quid erit eius modi sis advolaturus. verum ut hoc non sit, tamen, sive ruet <sive> geret rem publicam, praeclarum spectaculum mihi propono, modo te consessore spectare liceat.
{{pn|15.3|3}}Cum haec maxime scriberem, ecce tibi Sebosus! nondum plane ingemueram, 'salve' inquit Arrius. hoc est Roma decedere! quos ego homines effugi cum in hos incidi! ego vero in montis patrios et ad incunabula nostra pergam. denique si solus non potuero, cum rusticis potius quam cum his perurbanis, ita tamen ut, quoniam tu certi nihil scribis, in Formiano tibi praestoler usque ad iii Nonas Maias.
{{pn|15.4|4}}Terentiae pergrata est adsiduitas tua et diligentia in controversia Mulviana. nescit omnino te communem causam defendere eorum qui agros publicos possideant; sed tamen tu aliquid publicanis pendis, haec etiam id recusat. ea tibi igitur et Kikeron, aristokratikotatos pais, salutem dicunt.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Formiano in m. Maio a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|16.1|1}}cenato mihi et iam dormitanti pridie K; Maias epistula est illa reddita in qua de agro Campano scribis. quid quaeris? primo ita me pupugit ut somnum mihi ademerit, sed id cogitatione magis quam molestia; cogitanti autem haec fere succurrebant. primum ex eo quod superioribus litteris scripseras, ex familiari te illius audisse prolatum iri aliquid quod nemo improbaret, maius aliquid timueram. hoc mihi eius modi non videbatur. deinde ut me egomet consoler, omnis exspectatio largitionis agrariae in agrum Campanum videtur esse derivata, qui ager; ut dena iugera sint, non amplius homines quinque milia potest sustinere; reliqua omnis multitudo ab illis abalienetur necesse est. praeterea si ulla res est quae bonorum animos quos iam video esse commotos vehementius possit incendere, haec certe est et eo magis quod portoriis Italiae sublatis, agro Campano diviso, quod vectigal superest domesticum praeter vicensimam? quae mihi videtur una contiuncula clamore pedisequorum nostrorum esse peritura.
{{pn|16.2|2}}Gnaeus quidem noster iam plane quid cogitet nescio .
phusai gar ou smikroisin auliskois eti,
all' agriais phusaisi phorbeias ater
qui quidem etiam istuc adduci potuerit. nam adhuc haec esophizeto, se leges Caesaris probare, actiones ipsum praestare debere; agrariam legem sibi placuisse, potuerit intercedi necne nihil ad se pertinere; de rege Alexandrino placuisse sibi aliquando confici; Bibulus de caelo tum servasset necne sibi quaerendum non fuisse; de publicanis voluisse illi ordini commodare; quid futurum fuerit si Bibulus tum in forum descendisset se divinare non potuisse. nunc vero, Sampsicerame, quid dices? vectigal te nobis in monte Antilibano constituisse, agri Campani abstulisse? quid? hoc quem ad modum obtinebis? 'oppressos vos' inquit 'tenebo exercitu Caesaris.' non me hercule me tu quidem tam isto exercitu quam ingratis animis eorum hominum qui appellantur boni, qui mihi non modo praemiorum sed ne sermonum quidem umquam fructum ullum aut gratiam rettulerunt.
{{pn|16.3|3}}quod si in eam me partem incitarem, profecto iam aliquam reperirem resistendi viam. nunc prorsus hoc statui, ut, quoniam tanta controversia est Dicaearcho familiari tuo cum Theophrasto amico meo ut ille tuus ton praktikon bion longe omnibus anteponat, hic autem ton theoretikon utrique a me mos gestus esse videatur. puto enim me Dicaearcho adfatim satis fecisse; respicio nunc ad hanc familiam quae mihi non modo ut requiescam permittit, sed reprehendit quia non semper quierim. qua re incumbamus, o noster Tite, ad illa praeclara studia et eo unde discedere non oportuit aliquando revertamur.
{{pn|16.4|4}}quod de Quinti fratris epistula scribis, ad me quoque fuit prosthe leon, opithen de—. quid dicam nescio; nam ita deplorat primis versibus mansionem suam ut quemvis movere possit, ita rursus remittit ut me roget ut annalis suos emendem et edam. illud tamen quod scribis animadvertas velim de portorio circumvectionis; ait se de consili sententia rem ad senatum reiecisse. nondum videlicet meas litteras legerat quibus ad eum re consulta et explorata perscripseram non deberi. velim si qui Graeci iam Romam ex Asia de ea causa venerunt videas et, si tibi videbitur, iis demonstres quid ego de ea re sentiam. si possum discedere, ne causa optima in senatu pereat, ego satis faciam publicanis; ei de me (vere tecum loquar), in hac re malo universae Asiae et negotiatoribus; nam eorum quoque vehementer interest. hoc ego sentio valde nobis opus esse. sed tu id videbis. quaestores autem, quaeso, num etiam de cistophoro dubitant? nam si aliud nihil erit, cum erimus omnia experti, ego ne illud quidem contemnam quod extremum est; te in Arpinati videbimus et hospitio agresti accipiemus, quoniam maritimum hoc contempsisti.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Formiano in. m. Mai. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|17.1|1}}prorsus ut scribis ita sentio, turbatur Sampsiceramus. nihil est quod non timendum sit; homologoumenos turannida suskeuazetai. quid enim ista repentina adfinitatis coniunctio, quid ager Campanus, quid effusio pecuniae significant? quae si essent extrema tamen esset nimium mali, sed ea natura rei est ut haec extrema esse non possint. quid enim? eos haec ipsa per se delectare possunt? numquam huc venissent nisi ad alias res pestiferas aditus sibi compararent. verum, ut scribis, haec in Arpinati a. d. vi circiter Idus Maias non deflebimus, ne et opera et oleum philologiae nostrae perierit; sed conferemus tranquillo animo.
{{pn|17.2|2}}di immortales neque tam me euelpistia consolatur ut antea quam adiaphoria, qua nulla in re tam utor quam in hac civili et publica. quin etiam quod est subinane in nobis et non aphilodoxon (bellum est enim sua vitia nosse), id adficitur quadam delectatione. solebat enim me pungere ne Sampsicerami merita in patriam ad annos sescentos maiora viderentur quam nostra. hac quidem cura certe iam vacuus sum; iacet enim ille sic ut + phocis + Curiana stare videatur. sed haec coram.
{{pn|17.3|3}}tu tamen videris mihi Romae fore ad nostrum adventum, quod sane facile patiar si tuo commodo fieri possit; sin ut scribis ita venies, velim ex Theophane expiscere quonam in me animo sit arabarches. quaeres scilicet kata to kedemonikon et ad me ab eo quasi hupothekas adferes quem ad modum me geram. aliquid ex eius sermone poterimus peri ton holon suspicari.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae m. Iun. aut in. Quint. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|18.1|1}}accepi aliquot epistulas tuas, ex quibus intellexi quam suspenso animo et sollicito scire averes quid esset novi. tenemur undique neque iam quo minus serviamus recusamus, sed mortem et eiectionem quasi maiora timemus, quae multo sunt minora. atque hic status qui nunc est una voce omnium gemitur neque verbo cuiusquam sublevatur. Skopos est, ut suspicor, illis qui tenent, nullam cuiquam argitionem relinquere. Vnus loquitur et palam adversatur adulescens Curio. huic plausus maximi, consalutatio forensis perhonorifica, signa praeterea benevolentiae permulta a bonis impertiuntur. Fufium clamoribus et conviciis et sibilis consectantur. his ex rebus non spes, sed dolor est maior cum videas civitatis voluntatem solutam, virtutem adligatam.
{{pn|18.2|2}}ac ne forte quaeras kata lepton de singulis rebus, universa res eo est deducta spes ut nulla sit aliquando non modo privatos verum etiam magistratus liberos fore. hac tamen in oppressione sermo in circulis dumtaxat et in conviviis est liberior quam fuit. vincere incipit timorem dolor, sed ita ut omnia sint plenissima desperationis. habet etiam Campana lex exsecrationem in contione candidatorum, si mentionem fecerint quo aliter ager possideatur atque ut ex legibus Iuliis. non dubitant iurare ceteri; Laterensis existimatur laute fecisse quod tribunatum pl. petere destitit ne iuraret.
{{pn|18.3|3}}sed de re publica non libet plura scribere. displiceo mihi nec sine summo scribo dolore. me tueor ut oppressis omnibus non demisse, ut tantis rebus gestis parum fortiter. A Caesare valde liberaliter invitor in legationem illam, sibi ut sim legatus, atque etiam libera legatio voti causa datur. sed haec et praesidi apud pudorem pulchelli non habet satis et a fratris adventu me ablegat, illa et munitior est et non impedit quo minus adsim quom velim. hanc ego teneo sed usurum me non puto, neque tamen scit quisquam. non lubet fugere, aveo pugnare. Magna sunt hominum studia. sed nihil adfirmo; tu hoc silebis.
{{pn|18.4|4}}de Statio manu misso et non nullis aliis rebus angor equidem, sed iam prorsus occallui. tu vellem ego vel cuperem adesses; nec mihi consilium nec consolatio deesset. sed ita te para ut, si inclamaro, advoles.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae mmedio m Quint. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|19.1|1}}multa me sollicitant et ex rei publicae tanto motu et ex iis periculis quae mihi ipsi intenduntur et sescenta sunt; sed mihi nihil est molestius quam Statium manu missum; ne/c meum imperium, ac mi/tto imperium, no/n simultate/m meam Reverteri saltem! nec quid faciam scio neque tantum est in re quantus est sermo. ego autem ne irasci possum quidem iis quos valde amo; tantum doleo ac mirifice quidem. + cetera in magnis rebus+. minae Clodi contentionesque <quae> mihi proponuntur modice me tangunt; etenim vel subire eas videor mihi summa cum dignitate vel declinare nulla cum molestia posse. dices fortasse: 'dignitatis halis tamquam druos, saluti, si me amas, consule.' me miserum! cur non ades? nihil profecto te praeteriret. ego fortasse tuphlotto et nimium toi kaloi prospepontha.
{{pn|19.2|2}}scito nihil umquam fuisse tam infame, tam turpe, tam peraeque omnibus generibus, ordinibus, aetatibus offensum quam hunc statum qui nunc est, magis me hercule quam vellem non modo quam putarem. populares isti iam etiam modestos homines sibilare docuerunt. Bibulus in caelo est nec qua re scio, sed ita laudatur quasi Vnus homo nobis cunctando restituit rem. Pompeius, nostri amores, quod mihi summo dolori est, ipse se adflixit. neminem tenent voluntate; ne me tu necesse sit iis uti vereor. ego autem neque pugno cum illa causa propter illam amicitiam neque approbo, ne omnia improbem quae antea gessi; utor via. {{pn|19.3|3}}populi sensus maxime theatro et spectaculis perspectus est; nam gladiatoribus qua dominus qua advocati sibilis conscissi; ludis Apollinaribus Diphilus tragoedus in nostrum Pompeium petulanter invectus est;
nostra miseria/ tu es magnus—
miliens coactus est dicere;
Eandem virtutem istam veniet tempus cum graviter gemes totius theatri clamore dixit itemque cetera. nam et eius modi sunt ii versus uti in tempus ab inimico Pompei scripti esse videantur:
si neque leges neque mores cogunt—,
et cetera magno cum fremitu et clamore sunt dicta. Caesar cum venisset mortuo plausu, Curio filius est insecutus. huic ita plausum est ut salva re publica Pompeio plaudi solebat. tulit Caesar graviter. Litterae Capuam ad Pompeium volare dicebantur. inimici erant equitibus qui Curioni stantes plauserant, hostes omnibus; Rosciae legi, etiam frumentariae minitabantur. sane res erat perturbata. equidem malueram quod erat susceptum ab illis silentio transiri, sed vereor ne non liceat. non ferunt homines quod videtur esse tamen ferendum; sed est iam una vox omnium magis odio firmata quam praesidio.
{{pn|19.4|4}}noster autem Publius mihi minitatur, inimicus est. impendet negotium, ad quod tu scilicet advolabis. videor mihi nostrum illum consularem exercitum bonorum omnium, etiam sat bonorum habere firmissimum. Pompeius significat studium erga me non mediocre; idem adfirmat verbum de me illum non esse facturum; in quo non me ille fallit sed ipse fallitur. Cosconio mortuo sum in eius locum invitatus. id erat vocari in locum mortui. nihil me turpius apud homines fuisset neque vero ad istam ipsam asphaleian quicquam alienius. sunt enim illi apud bonos invidiosi, ego apud improbos meam retinuissem invidiam, alienam adsumpsissem. Caesar me sibi vult esse legatum.
{{pn|19.5|5}}honestior declinatio haec periculi; sed ego hoc non repudio. quid ergo est? pugnare malo. nihil tamen certi. iterum dico 'utinam adesses!' sed tamen si erit necesse, arcessemus. quid aliud? quid? hoc opinor. certi sumus perisse omnia; quid enim akkizometha tam diu? sed haec scripsi properans et me hercule timide. posthac ad te aut, si perfidelem habebo cui dem, scribam plane omnia aut, si obscure scribam, tu tamen intelleges. in iis epistulis me Laelium, te Furium faciam; cetera erunt en ainigmois. hic Caecilium colimus et observamus diligenter. edicta Bibuli audio ad te missa. Iis ardet dolore et ira noster Pompeius.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XX.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae in Quint. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|20.1|1}}Anicato, ut te velle intellexeram, nullo loco defui. Numestium ex litteris tuis studiose scriptis libenter in amicitiam recepi. Caecilium quibus rebus possum tueor diligenter. Varro satis facit nobis. Pompeius amat nos carosque habet. 'credis?' inquies. credo; prorsus mihi persuadet; sed quia volgo pragmatici homines omnibus historiis, praeceptis, versibus denique cavere iubent et vetant credere, alterum facio ut caveam, alterum ut non credam facere non possum.
{{pn|20.2|2}}Clodius adhuc mihi denuntiat periculum. Pompeius adfirmat non esse periculum, adiurat; addit etiam se prius occisum iri ab eo quam me violatum iri. tractatur res. simul et quid erit certi, scribam ad te. si erit pugnandum, arcessam ad societatem laboris; si quies dabitur, ab Amalthea te non commovebo.
{{pn|20.3|3}}de re <publica> breviter ad te scribam; iam enim charta ipsa ne nos prodat pertimesco. itaque posthac, si erunt mihi plura ad te scribenda, allegoriais obscurabo. nunc quidem novo quodam morbo civitas moritur, ut, cum omnes ea quae sunt acta improbent, querantur, doleant, varietas nulla in re sit, aperteque loquantur et iam, clare gemant, tamen medicina nulla adferatur. neque enim resisti sine internecione posse arbitramur nec videmus qui finis cedendi praeter exitium futurus sit.
{{pn|20.4|4}}Bibulus hominum admiratione et benevolentia in caelo est; edicta eius et contiones describunt et legunt. novo quodam genere in summam gloriam venit. populare nunc nihil tam est quam odium popularium. {{pn|20.5|5}}haec quo sint eruptura timeo; sed si dispicere quid coepero scribam ad te apertius. tu si me amas tantum quantum profecto amas, expeditus facito ut sis si inclamaro ut accurras; sed do operam et dabo ne sit necesse. quod scripseram +et+ Furio scripturum, nihil necesse est tuum nomen mutare; me faciam Laelium et te Atticum neque utar meo chirographo neque signo, si modo erunt eius modi litterae quas in alienum incidere nolim.
{{pn|20.6|6}}Diodotus mortuus est; reliquit nobis HS fortasse +centiens+. comitia Bibulus cum Archilochio edicto in ante diem xv Kal. Novembr. distulit. A Vibio libros accepi. poeta ineptus et tamen scit nihil, sed est non inutilis. describo et remitto.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXI.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae post viii K. Sext., ante xv K. Nov. a. 695 (59).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|21.1|1}}de re publica quid ego tibi subtiliter? tota periit atque hoc est miserior quam reliquisti, quod tum videbatur eius modi dominatio civitatem oppressisse quae iucunda esset multitudini, bonis autem ita molesta ut tamen sine pernicie, nunc repente tanto in odio est omnibus ut quorsus eruptura sit horreamus. nam iracundiam atque intemperantiam illorum sumus experti qui Catoni irati omnia perdiderunt, sed ita lenibus uti videbantur venenis ut posse videremur sine dolore interire; nunc vero sibilis vulgi, sermonibus honestorum, fremitu Italiae vereor ne exarserint.
{{pn|21.2|2}}equidem sperabam, ut saepe etiam loqui tecum solebam, sic orbem rei publicae esse conversum ut vix sonitum audire, vix impressam orbitam videre possemus; et fuisset ita, si homines transitum tempestatis exspectare potuissent. sed cum diu occulte suspirassent, postea iam gemere, ad extremum vero loqui omnes et clamare coeperunt.
{{pn|21.3|3}}itaque ille noster amicus insolens infamiae, semper in laude versatus, circumfluens gloria, deformatus corpore, fractus animo, quo se conferat nescit; progressum praecipitem, inconstantem reditum videt; bonos inimicos habet, improbos ipsos non amicos. ac vide mollitiem animi. non tenui lacrimas cum illum a. d. viii Kal. Sextilis vidi de edictis Bibuli contionantem. qui antea solitus esset iactare se magnificentissime illo in loco summo cum amore populi, cunctis faventibus, ut ille tum humilis, ut demissus erat, ut ipse etiam sibi, non iis solum qui aderant, displicebat!
{{pn|21.4|4}}O spectaculum uni Crasso iucundum, ceteris non item! nam quia deciderat ex astris, lapsus potius quam progressus videbatur, et, ut Apelles si venerem, aut Protogenes si Ialysum illum suum caeno oblitum videret, magnum, credo, acciperet dolorem, sic ego hunc omnibus a me pictum et politum artis coloribus subito deformatum non sine magno dolore vidi. quamquam nemo putabat propter Clodianum negotium me illi amicum esse debere, tamen tantus fuit amor ut exhauriri nulla posset iniuria. itaque Archilochia in illum edicta Bibuli populo ita sunt iucunda ut eum locum ubi proponuntur prae multitudine eorum qui legunt transire nequeamus, ipsi ita acerba ut tabescat dolore, mihi me hercule molesta, quod et eum quem semper dilexi nimis excruciant et timeo tam vehemens vir tamque acer in ferro et tam insuetus contumeliae ne omni animi impetu dolori et iracundiae pareat.
{{pn|21.5|5}}Bibuli qui sit exitus futurus nescio. Vt nunc res se habet, admirabili gloria est. qui cum comitia in mensem Octobrem distulisset, quod solet ea res populi voluntatem offendere, putarat Caesar oratione sua posse impelli contionem ut iret ad Bibulum; multa cum seditiosissime diceret, vocem exprimere non potuit. quid quaeris? sentiunt se nullam ullius partis voluntatem tenere. eo magis vis nobis est timenda.
{{pn|21.6|6}}Clodius inimicus est nobis. Pompeius confirmat eum nihil esse facturum contra me. mihi periculosum est credere, ad resistendum me paro. studia spero me summa habiturum omnium ordinum. te cum ego desidero, tum vero res ad tempus illud vocat. plurimum consili, animi, praesidi denique mihi, si te ad tempus videro, accesserit. Varro mihi satis facit. Pompeius loquitur divinitus. spero nos aut cum summa gloria aut certe sine molestia discessuros. tu quid agas, quem ad modum te oblectes, quid cum Sicyonus egeris ut sciam cura.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae post viil K. Sext., ante xv K. Nov. a. 69; (59): fort. m. Sext.<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|22.1|1}}quam vellem Romae mansisses! <mansisses> profecto si haec fore putassemus. nam pulchellum nostrum facillime teneremus aut certe quid esset facturus scire possemus. nunc se res sic habet. volitat, furit; nihil habet certi, multis denuntiat; quod fors obtulerit id acturus videtur; cum videt quo sit in odio status hic rerum, in eos qui haec egerunt impetum facturus videtur; cum autem rursus opes eorum et exercitus recordatur, convertit se in bonos, nobis autem ipsis tum vim tum iudicium minatur.
{{pn|22.2|2}}Cum hoc Pompeius egit et, ut ad me ipse referebat (alium enim habeo neminem testem), vehementer egit, cum diceret in summa se perfidiae et sceleris infamia fore, si mihi periculum crearetur ab eo quem ipse armasset cum plebeium fieri passus esset; fidem recepisse sibi et ipsum et Appium de me; hanc si ille non servaret, ita laturum ut omnes intellegerent nihil sibi antiquius amicitia nostra fuisse. haec et in eam sententiam cum multa dixisset, aiebat illum primo sane diu multa contra, ad extremum autem manus dedisse et adfirmasse nihil se contra eius voluntatem esse facturum. sed postea tamen ille non destitit de nobis asperrime loqui. quod si non faceret tamen ei nihil crederemus atque omnia, sicut facimus, pararemus.
{{pn|22.3|3}}nunc ita nos gerimus ut in dies singulos et studia in nos hominum et opes nostrae augeantur; rem publicam nulla ex parte attingimus, in causis atque in illa opera nostra forensi summa industria versamur; quod egregie non modo iis qui utuntur opera, sed etiam in vulgus gratum esse sentimus. domus celebratur, occurritur, renovatur memoria consulatus, studia significantur; in eam spem adducimur ut nobis ea contentio quae impendet interdum non fugienda videatur.
{{pn|22.4|4}}nunc mihi et consiliis opus est tuis et amore et fide. qua re advola. expedita mihi erunt omnia si te habebo. multa per Varronem nostrum agi possunt quae te urgente erunt firmiora, multa ab ipso Publio elici, multa cognosci quae tibi occulta esse non poterunt, multa etiam—sed absurdum est singula explicare cum ego requiram te ad omnia. {{pn|22.5|5}}Vnum illud tibi persuadeas velim, omnia mihi fore explicata si te videro; sed totum est in eo si ante quam ille ineat magistratum. puto Pompeium Crasso urgente, si tu aderis qui per boopin ex ipso intellegere possis qua fide ab illis agatur, nos aut sine molestia aut certe sine errore futuros. precibus nostris et cohortatione non indiges; quid mea voluntas, quid tempus, quid rei magnitudo postulet intellegis.
{{pn|22.6|6}}de re publica nihil habeo ad te scribere nisi summum odium omnium hominum in eos qui tenent omnia. mutationis tamen spes nulla. sed, quod facile sentias, taedet ipsum Pompeium vehementerque paenitet. non provideo satis quem exitum futurum putem; sed certe videntur haec aliquo eruptura.
{{pn|22.7|7}}Libros Alexandri, neglegentis hominis et non boni poetae sed tamen non inutilis, tibi remisi. Numerium Numestium libenter accepi in amicitiam et hominem gravem et prudentem et dignum tua commendatione cognovi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ante xv K. Nov. a. 695 (59): fort. medio m. Sext.<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|23.1|1}}numquam ante arbitror te epistulam meam legisse nisi mea manu scriptam. ex eo colligere poteris quanta occupatione distinear. nam cum vacui temporis nihil haberem, et cum recreandae voculae causa necesse esset mihi ambulare, haec dictavi ambulans.
{{pn|23.2|2}}primum igitur illud te scire volo, Sampsiceramum nostrum amicum vehementer sui status paenitere restituique in eum locum cupere ex quo decidit, doloremque suum impertire nobis et medicinam interdum aperte quaerere, quam ego possum invenire nullam; deinde omnis illius partis auctores ac socios nullo adversario consenescere, consensionem universorum nec voluntatis nec sermonis maiorem umquam fuisse. {{pn|23.3|3}}nos autem (nam id te scire cupere certo scio) publicis a consiliis nullis intersumus totosque nos ad forensem operam laboremque contulimus. ex quo, quod facile intellegi possit, in multa commemoratione earum rerum quas gessimus desiderioque versamur. sed boopidos nostrae consanguineus non mediocris terrores iacit atque denuntiat et Sampsiceramo negat, ceteris prae se fert et ostentat. quam ob rem si me amas tantum quantum profecto amas, si dormis expergiscere, si stas ingredere, si ingrederis curre, si curris advola. credibile non est quantum ego in consiliis prudentia tua, quodque maximum est, quantum in amore et fide ponam. magnitudo rei longam orationem fortasse desiderat, coniunctio vero nostrorum animorum brevitate contenta est. permagni nostra interest te, si comitiis non potueris, at declarato illo esse Romae. cura ut valeas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ammte xv K. Nov. a. 695 (59): fort. m Sext.<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|24.1|1}}quas Numestio litteras dedi, sic te iis evocabam ut nihil acrius neque incitatius fieri posset. ad illam celeritatem adde etiam si quid potes. ac ne sis perturbatus (novi enim te et non ignoro quam sit amor omnis sollicitus atque anxius)—sed res est, ut spero, non tam exitu molesta quam aditu.
{{pn|24.2|2}}Vettius ille, ille noster index, Caesari, ut perspicimus, pollicitus est sese curaturum ut in aliquam suspicionem facinoris Curio filius adduceretur. itaque insinuavit in familiaritatem adulescentis et cum eo ut res indicat, saepe congressus rem in eum locum deduxit ut diceret sibi certum esse cum suis servis in Pompeium impetum facere eumque occidere. hoc Curio ad patrem detulit, ille ad Pompeium. res delata ad senatum est. introductus Vettius primo negabat se umquam cum Curione constitisse, neque id sane diu; nam statim fidem publicam postulavit. reclamatum est. tum exposuit manum fuisse iuventutis duce Curione, in qua Paulus initio fuisset et Q. Caepio hic Brutus et Lentulus, flaminis filius, conscio patre; postea C. Septimium scribam Bibuli pugionem sibi a Bibulo attulisse. quod totum inrisum est, Vettio pugionem defuisse nisi ei consul dedisset, eoque magis id eiectum est quod a. d. iii Idus Maias Bibulus Pompeium fecerat certiorem ut caveret insidias; in quo ei Pompeius gratias egerat.
{{pn|24.3|3}}introductus Curio filius dixit ad ea quae Vettius dixerat, maximeque in eo tum quidem Vettius est reprehensus quod dixerat adulescentium consilium ut in foro [cum] gladiatoribus Gabini Pompeium adorirentur; in eo principem Paulum fuisse, quem constabat eo tempore in Macedonia fuisse. fit senatus consultum ut Vettius, quod confessus esset se cum telo fuisse, in vincula coniceretur; qui emisisset, eum contra rem publicam esse facturum. res erat in ea opinione ut putarent id esse actum ut Vettius in foro cum pugione et item servi eius comprehenderentur cum telis, deinde ille se diceret indicaturum. idque ita factum esset nisi Curiones rem ante ad Pompeium detulissent. tum senatus consultum in contione recitatum est. postero autem die Caesar, is qui olim praetor cum esset Q. Catulum ex inferiore loco iusserat dicere, Vettium in rostra produxit eumque in eo loco constituit quo Bibulo consuli adspirare non liceret. hic ille omnia quae voluit de re publica dixit, ut qui illuc factus institutusque venisset primum Caepionem de oratione sua sustulit, quem in senatu acerrime nominarat, ut appareret noctem et nocturnam deprecationem intercessisse. deinde quos in senatu ne tenuissima quidem suspicione attigerat, eos nominavit, L. Lucullum, a quo solitum esse ad se mitti C. Fannium, illum qui in P. Clodium subscripserat, L. Domitium, cuius domum constitutam fuisse unde eruptio fieret. me non nominavit sed dixit consularem disertum vicinum consulis sibi dixisse Ahalam Servilium aliquem aut Brutum opus esse reperiri. addidit ad extremum, cum iam dimissa contione revocatus a Vatinio fuisset, se audisse a Curione his de rebus consciunt esse Pisonem generum meum et M. Laterensem.
{{pn|24.4|4}}nunc reus erat apud Crassum divitem Vettius de vi et, cum esset damnatus, erat indicium postulaturus. quod si impetrasset, iudicia fore videbantur. ea nos, utpote qui nihil contemnere soleremus, <non contemnabamus sed> non pertimescebamus. hominum quidem summa erga nos studia significabantur; sed prorsus vitae taedet; ita sunt omnia omnium miseriarum plenissima. modo caedem timueramus +que oratio fortissimi senis, Q. Considi, discusserat ea inquam cotidie timere potueramus+, subito exorta est. quid quaeris? nihil me <infortunatus, nihil> fortunatius est Catulo cum splendore vitae tum +hoc+ tempore. nos tamen in his miseriis erecto animo et minime perturbato sumus honestissimeque et dignitatem nostram magna cura tuemur. .
{{pn|24.5|5}}Pompeius de Clodio iubet nos esse sine cura et summam in nos benevolentiam omni oratione significat. te habere consiliorum auctorem, sollicitudinum socium, omni in cogitatione coniunctum cupio. qua re ut Numestio mandavi tecum ut ageret, item atque eo, si potest, acrius te rogo ut plane ad nos advoles. Respiraro si te videro.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ante K. a. 695 (59): fort. m. Oct.<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|25.1|1}}Cum aliquem apud te laudaro tuorum familiarium, volam illum scire ex te me id fecisse, ut nuper me scis scripsisse ad te de Varronis erga me officio, te ad me rescripsisse eam rem summae tibi voluptati esse. sed ego mallem ad illum scripsisses mihi illum satis facere, non quo faceret sed ut faceret; mirabiliter enim moratus est sicut nosti, helikta kai ouden—. sed nos tenemus praeceptum illud tas ton kratounton—. at hercule alter tuus familiaris Hortalus quam plena manu, quam ingenue, quam ornate nostras laudes in astra sustulit, cum de Flacci praetura et de illo tempore Allobrogum diceret! sic habeto nec amantius nec honorificentius nec copiosius potuisse dici. ei te hoc scribere a me tibi esse missum sane volo.
{{pn|25.2|2}}sed quid tu scribas? quem iam ego venire atque adesse arbitror; ita enim egi tecum superioribus litteris. valde te exspecto, valde desidero neque ego magis quam ipsa res et tempus poscit. his de negotiis quid scribam ad te nisi idem quod saepe? re publica nihil desperatius, iis quorum opera nihil maiore odio. nos, ut opinio et spes et coniectura nostra fert, firmissima benevolentia hominum muniti sumus. qua re advola; aut expedies nos omni molestia aut eris particeps. ideo sum brevior quod, ut spero, coram brevi tempore conferre quae volumus licebit. cura ut valeas.
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. proficiscens in exsilium in. in Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|1.1|1}}Cum antea maxime nostra interesse arbitrabar te esse nobiscum, tum vero, ut legi rogationem, intellexi ad iter id quod constitui nihil mihi optatius cadere posse quam ut tu me quam primum consequerere, ut, cum ex Italia profecti essemus, sive per Epirum iter esset faciendum, tuo tuorumque praesidio uteremur, sive aliud quid agendum esset, certum consilium de tua sententia capere possemus. quam ob rem te oro des operam ut me statim consequare; quod eo facilius potes quoniam de provincia Macedonia perlata lex est. pluribus verbis tecum agerem nisi pro me apud te res ipsa loqueretur.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere vi Id. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|2.1|1}}itineris nostri causa fuit quod non habebam locum ubi pro meo iure diutius esse possem quam in fundo Siccae, praesertim nondum rogatione correcta, et simul intellegebam ex eo loco, si te haberem, posse me Brundisium referre, sine te autem non esse nobis illas partis tenendas propter Autronium. nunc ut ad te antea scripsi, si ad nos veneris, consilium totius rei capiemus. iter esse molestum scio sed tota calamitas omnis molestias habet. plura scribere non possum; ita sum animo perculso et abiecto. cura ut valeas. data vi Idus Aprilis naribus Luc.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. Itinere circ. Non. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|3.1|1}}Vtinam illum diem videam cum tibi agam gratias quod me vivere coegisti! adhuc quidem valde me paenitet. sed te oro ut ad me Vibonem statim venias quo ego multis de causis converti iter meum. sed eo si veneris, de tota itinere ac fuga mea consilium capere potero. si id non feceris, mirabor; sed confido te esse facturum.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere inter Vibonem et Brundisium post ep. 5 Id. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|4.1|1}}miseriae nostrae potius velim quam inconstantiae tribuas quod a Vibone quo te arcessebamus subito discessimus. adlata est enim nobis rogatio de pernicie mea; in qua quod correctum esse audieramus erat eius modi ut mihi ultra quingenta milia liceret esse, illuc pervenire non liceret. statim iter Brundisium versus contuli ante diem rogationis, ne et Sicca apud quem eram periret et quod Melitae esse non licebat. nunc tu propera ut nos consequare, si modo recipiemur. adhuc invitamur benigne, sed quod superest timemus. me, mi Pomponi, valde paenitet vivere; qua in re apud me tu plurimum valuisti. sed haec coram. fac modo ut venias.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. Thuriis iv Id. Apr., ut videtur, a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|5.1|1}}Terentia tibi et saepe et maximas agit gratias. id est mihi gratissimum. ego vivo miserrimus et maximo dolore conficior. ad te quid scribam nescio. si enim es Romae, iam me adsequi non potes; sin es in via, cum eris me adsecutus, coram agemus quae erunt agenda. tantum te oro ut, quoniam me ipsum semper amasti, ut eodem amore sis; ego enim idem sum. inimici mei mea mihi, non me ipsum ademerunt. cura ut valeas. data iiii Idus April. Thuri.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Tarenthmo xiv K. Mai. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|6.1|1}}non fuerat mihi dubium quin te Tarenti aut Brundisi visurus essem idque ad multa pertinuit, in eis et ut in Epiro consisteremus et de reliquis rebus tuo consilio uteremur. quoniam id non contigit, erit hoc quoque in magno numero nostrorum malorum. nobis iter est in Asiam, maxime Cyzicum. meos tibi commendo. me vix misereque sustento. data xiiii K. Maias de Tarentino.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. Brundisii pr. K. Mai. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|7.1|1}}Brundisium veni a. d xiiii Kal. Maias. eo die pueri tui mihi a te litteras reddiderunt, et alii pueri post diem tertium eius diei alias litteras attulerunt. quod me rogas et hortaris ut apud te in Epiro sim, voluntas tua mihi valde grata est et minime nova. esset consilium mihi quidem optatum, si liceret ibi omne tempus consumere; odi enim celebritatem, fugio homines, lucem aspicere vix possum, esset mihi ista solitudo, praesertim tam familiari in loco, non amara; sed itineris causa ut deverterer, primum est devium, deinde ab Autronio et ceteris quadridui, deinde sine te. nam castellum munitum habitanti mihi prodesset, transeunti non est necessarium. quod si auderem, Athenas peterem. sane ita cadebat ut vellem. nunc et nostri hostes ibi sunt et te non habemus et veremur ne interpretentur illud quoque oppidum ab Italia non satis abesse nec scribis quam ad diem te exspectemus.
{{pn|7.2|2}}quod me ad vitam vocas, unum efficis ut a me manus abstineam, alterum non potes ut me non nostri consili vitaeque paeniteat. quid enim est quod me retineat, praesertim si spes ea non est quae nos proficiscentis prosequebatur? non faciam ut enumerem miserias omnis in quas incidi per summam iniuriam et scelus non tam inimicorum meorum quam invidorum, ne et meum maerorem exagitem et te in eundem luctum vocem; hoc adfirmo, neminem umquam tanta calamitate esse adfectum, nemini mortem magis optandam fuisse. quoius oppetendae tempus honestissimum praetermissum est; reliqua tempora sunt non tam ad medicinam quam ad finem doloris.
{{pn|7.3|3}}de re publica video te conligere omnia quae putes aliquam spem mihi posse adferre mutandarum rerum. quae quamquam exigua sunt, tamen, quoniam placet, exspectemus. tu nihilo minus si properans nos consequere; nam aut accedemus in Epirum aut tarde per Candaviam ibimus. dubitationem autem de Epiro non inconstantia nostra adferebat sed quod de fratre ubi eum visuri essemus nesciebamus; quem quidem ego nec (quo) modo visurus nec ut dimissurus sim scio. id est maximum et miserrimum mearum omnium miseriarum. ego et saepius ad te et plura scriberem, nisi mihi dolor meus cum omnis partis mentis tum maxime huius generis facultatem ademisset. videre te cupio. cura ut valeas. data pr. Kal. Mat Brundisi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv K. Iun. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|8.1|1}}Brundisio proficiscens scripseram ad te quas ob causas in Epirum non essemus profecti, quod et Achaia prope esset plena audacissimorum inimicorum et exitus difficilis haberet cum inde proficisceremur. accessit cum Dyrrachi essemus ut duo nuntii adferrentur, unus classe fratrem Epheso Athenas, alter pedibus per Macedoniam venire. itaque illi obviam misimus Athenas ut inde Thessalonicam veniret. ipsi processimus et Thessalonicam a. d. x Kal. Iunias venimus neque de illius itinere quicquam certi habebamus nisi eum ab Epheso ante aliquanto profectum.
{{pn|8.2|2}}nunc istic quid agatur magno opere timeo; quamquam tu altera epistula scribis Idibus Maus audiri fore ut acrius postularetur, altera iam esse mitiora. sed haec est pridie data quam illa, quo conturber magis. itaque cum meus me maeror cotidianus lacerat et conficit tum vero haec addita cura vix mihi vitam reliquam facit. sed et navigatio perdifficilis fuit et ille incertus ubi ego essem fortasse alium cursum petivit. nam Phaetho libertus eum non vidit. vento reiectus ab Ilio in Macedoniam Pellae mihi praesto fuit. reliqua quam mihi timenda sint video nec quid scribam habeo et omnia timeo, nec tam miserum est quicquam quod non in nostram fortunam cadere videatur. equidem adhuc miser in maximis meis aerumnis et luctibus hoc metu adiecto maneo Thessalonicae suspensus nec audeo quicquam.
{{pn|8.3|3}}nunc ad ea quae scripsisti. Tryphonem Caecilium non vidi. sermonem tuum et Pompei cognovi ex tuis litteris. Motuit in re publica non tantum ego impendere video quantum tu aut vides aut ad me consolandum adfers. Tigrane enim neglecto sublata sunt omnia. Varroni me iubes agere gratias. faciam; item Hypsaeo. quod suades ne longius discedamus dum acta mensis Mai ad nos perferantur, puto me ita esse facturum sed ubi nondum statui; atque ita perturbato sum animo de Quinto ut nihil queam statuere sed tamen statim te faciam certiorem.
{{pn|8.4|4}}ex epistularum mearum inconstantia puto te mentis meae motum videre qui, etsi incredibili et singulari calamitate adflictus sum, tamen non tam est ex miseria quam ex culpae nostrae recordatione commotus. cuius enim scelere impulsi ac proditi simus iam profecto vides, atque utinam iam ante vidisses neque totum animum tuum maerori mecum simul dedisses! qua re cum me adflictum et confectum luctu audies, existimato me stultitiae meae poenam ferre gravius quam eventi, quod ei crediderim quem esse nefarium non putarim. me et meorum malorum memoria et metus de fratre in scribendo impedit. tu ista omnia vide et guberna Terentia tibi maximas gratias agit. Litterarum exemplum quas ad Pompeium scripsi misi tibi. data iiii Kal. Iunias Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae 1d. Iun. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|9.1|1}}{{pn|9.1|1}}Quintus frater cum ex Asia discessisset ante Kal. Maias et Athenas venisset Idibus, valde fuit ei properandum, ne quid absens acciperet calamitatis, si quis forte fuisset qui contentus nostris malis non esset. itaque eum malui properare Romam quam ad me venire et simul (dicam enim quod verum est, ex quo magnitudinem miseriarum mearum perspicere possis) animum inducere non potui ut aut illum amantissimum mei mollissimo animo tanto in maerore aspicerem aut meas miserias luctu adflictus et perditam fortunam illi offerrem aut ab illo aspici paterer. atque etiam illud timebam, quod profecto accidisset, ne a me digredi non posset. versabatur mihi tempus illud ante oculos quom ille aut lictores dimitteret aut vi avelleretur ex complexu meo. huius acerbitatis eventum altera acerbitate non videndi fratris vitavi. in hunc me casum vos vivendi auctores impulistis.
{{pn|9.2|2}}itaque mei peccati luo poenas. quam quam me tuae litterae sustentant ex quibus quantum tu ipse speres facile perspicio; quae quidem tamen aliquid habebant solaci ante quam eo venisti a Pompeio. 'nunc Hortensium adlice et eius modi viros.' obsecro, mi Pomponi, nondum perspicis quorum opera, quorum insidiis, quorum scelere perierimus? sed tecum haec omnia coram agemus; tantum dico quod scire te puto, nos non inimici sed invidi perdiderunt. nunc si ita sunt quae speras, sustinebimus nos et spe qua iubes nitemur; sin, ut mihi videntur, infirma sunt, quod optimo tempore facere non licuit minus idoneo fiet.
{{pn|9.3|3}}Terentia tibi saepe agit gratias. mihi etiam unum de malis in metu est, fratris miseri negotium; quod si sciam quoius modi sit, sciam quid agendum mihi sit. me etiam nunc istorum beneficiorum et litterarum exspectatio, ut tibi placet, Thessalonicae tenet. si quid erit novi adlatum, sciam de reliquo quid agendum sit. tu si, ut scribis, Kal. Iuniis Roma profectus es, prope diem nos videbis. Litteras quas ad Pompeium scripsi tibi misi. data id. Iun. Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. Thcssalonicae xko K. Qithit. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|10.1|1}}Acta quae essent usque ad a. d. viii Kal. Iunias cognovi ex tuis litteris; reliqua exspectabam, ut tibi placebat, Thessalonicae. quibus adlatis facilius statuere potero ubi sim. nam si erit causa, si quid agetur, si spem videro, aut ibidem opperiar aut me ad te conferam; sin, ut tu scribis, ista evanuerint, aliquid aliud videbimus. omnino adhuc nihil mihi significatis nisi discordiam istorum; quae tamen inter eos de omnibus potius rebus est quam de me. itaque quid ea mihi prosit nescio sed tamen quoad me vos sperare vultis vobis obtemperabo.
{{pn|10.2|2}}nam quod me tam saepe et tam vehementer obiurgas et animo infirmo esse dicis, quaeso, ecquod tantum malum est quod in mea calamitate non sit? ecquis umquam tam ex amplo statu, tam in bona causa, tantis facultatibus ingeni, consili, gratiae, tantis praesidiis bonorum omnium concidit? possum oblivisci qui fuerim, non sentire qui sim, quo caream honore, qua gloria, quibus liberis, quibus fortunis, quo fratre? quem ego, ut novum calamitatis genus attendas, quom pluris facerem quam me ipsum semperque fecissem, vitavi ne viderem, ne aut illius luctum squaloremque aspicerem aut me quem ille florentissimum reliquerat perditum illi adflictumque offerrem. Mitto cetera intolerabilia; etenim fletu impedior. hic utrum tandem sum accusandus quod doleo, an quod commisi ut haec non aut retinerem, quod facile fuisset nisi intra parietes meos de mea pernicie consilia inirentur, aut certe vivus non amitterem?
{{pn|10.3|3}}haec eo scripsi ut potius relevares me, quod facis, quam ut castigatione aut obiurgatione dignum putares, eoque ad te minus multa scribo quod et maerore impedior et quod exspectem istinc magis habeo quam quod ipse scribam. quae si erunt adlata, faciam te consili nostri certiorem. tu, ut adhuc fecisti, quam plurimis de rebus ad me velim scribas, ut prorsus ne quid ignorem. data xiiii Kal. Quintilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv K. Quint. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|11.1|1}}me et tuae litterae et quidam boni nuntii, non optimis tamen auctoribus, et exspectatio vestrarum litterarum et quod tibi ita placuerat adhuc Thessalonicae tenebat. si accepero litteras quas exspecto, si spes erit ea quae rumoribus adferebatur, ad te me conferam; si non erit, faciam te certiorem quid egerim.
{{pn|11.2|2}}tu me, ut facis, opera, consilio, gratia iuva; consolari iam desine, obiurgare vero noli; quod cum facis, ut ego tuum amorem et dolorem desidero! quem ita adfectum mea aerumna esse arbitror ut te ipsum consolari nemo possit. Quintum fratrem optimum humanissimumque sustenta. ad me obsecro te ut omnia certa perscribas. data iiii Kal. Quintilis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xvi Kal. Sext. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|12.1|1}}tu quidem sedulo argumentaris quid sit sperandum et maxime per senatum idemque caput rogationis proponi scribis qua re in senatu dici nihil liceat. itaque siletur. hic tu me accusas quod me adflictem, cum ita sim adflictus ut nemo umquam, quod tute intellegis. spem ostendis secundum comitia. quae ista est eodem tribuno pl. et inimico consule designato? percussisti autem me etiam de oratione prolata.
{{pn|12.2|2}}cui vulneri ut scribis medere, si quid potes. scripsi equidem olim ei iratus, quod ille prior scripserat, sed ita compresseram ut numquam emanaturam putarem. quo modo exciderit nescio. sed quia numquam accidit ut cum eo verbo uno concertarem et quia scripta mihi videtur neglegentius quam ceterae, puto posse probari non esse meam. id, si putas me posse sanari, cures velim; sin plane perii, minus laboro.
{{pn|12.3|3}}ego etiam nunc eodem in loco iaceo sine sermone ullo, sine cogitatione ulla. scilicet tibi, ut scribis, significaram ut ad me venires; Üsi donatam utÜ intellego te istic prodesse, hic ne verbo quidem levare me posse. non queo plura scribere nec est quod scribam; vestra magis exspecto. data xvi Kal. Sextilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae Non. Sext. a. 696 (58). .<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|13.1|1}}quod ad te scripseram me in Epiro futurum, postea quam extenuari spem nostram et evanescere vidi, mutavi consilium nec me Thessalonica commovi, ubi esse statueram quoad aliquid ad me de eo scriberes, quod proximis litteris scripseras fore uti secundum comitia aliquid de nobis in senatu ageretur; id tibi Pompeium dixisse. qua de re quoniam comitia habita sunt tuque nihil ad me scribis, proinde habebo ac si scripsisses nihil esse neque (me) temporis non longinqui spe ductum esse moleste feram. quem autem motum te videre scripseras qui nobis utilis fore videretur, eum nuntiant qui veniunt nullum fore. in tribunis pl. designatis reliqua spes est. quam si exspectaro, non erit quod putes me causae meae, voluntati meorum defuisse.
{{pn|13.2|2}}quod me saepe accusas cur hunc meum casum tam graviter feram, debes ignoscere, cum ita me adflictum videas ut neminem umquam nec videris nec audieris. nam quod scribis te audire me etiam mentis errore ex dolore adfici, mihi vero mens integra est. atque utinam tam in periculo fuisset! cum ego iis quibus meam salutem carissimam esse arbitrabar inimicissimis crudelissimisque usus sum; qui, ut me paulum inclinari timore viderunt, sic impulerunt ut omni suo scelere et perfidia abuterentur ad exitium meum. nunc quoniam est Cyzicum nobis eundum, quo rarius ad me litterae perferentur, hoc velim diligentius omnia quae putaris me scire opus esse perscribas. Quintum fratrem meum fac diligas; quem ego miser si incolumem relinquo, non me totum perisse arbitrabor. data Nonis Sextilibus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae x K. Sext. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|14.1|1}}ex tuis litteris plenus sum exspectatione de Pompeio quidnam de nobis velit aut ostendat. comitia enim credo esse habita; quibus absolutis scribis illi placuisse agi de nobis. si tibi stultus esse videor qui sperem, facio tuo iussu, etsi scio te me iis epistulis potius et meas spes solitum esse remorari. nunc velim mihi plane perscribas quid videas. scio nos nostris multis peccatis in hanc aerumnam incidisse. ea si qui casus aliqua ex parte correxerit, minus moleste feremus nos vixisse et adhuc vivere.
{{pn|14.2|2}}ego propter viae celebritatem et cotidianam exspectationem rerum novarum non commovi me adhuc Thessalonica. sed iam extrudimur non a Plancio (nam is quidem retinet) verum ab ipso loco minime apposito ad tolerandam in tanto luctu calamitatem. in Epirum ideo, ut scripseram, non veni, quod subito mihi universi nuntii venerant et litterae qua re nihil esset necesse quam proxime Italiam esse. hinc, si aliquid a comitiis audierimus, nos in Asiam convertemus; neque adhuc stabat quo potissimum sed scies. data xii Sextilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xiv K. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|15.1|1}}accepi Idibus Sextilibus quattuor epistulas a te missas, unam qua me obiurgas et rogas ut sim firmior, alteram qua Crassi libertum ais tibi de mea sollicitudine macieque narrasse, tertiam qua demonstras acta in senatu, quartam de eo quod a Varrone scribis tibi esse confirmatum de voluntate Pompei.
{{pn|15.2|2}}ad primam tibi hoc scribo, me ita dolere ut non modo a mente non deserar sed id ipsum doleam, me tam firma mente ubi utar et quibuscum non habere. nam si tu me uno non sine maerore cares, quid me censes qui et te et omnibus? et si tu incolumis me requiris, quo modo a me ipsam incolumitatem desiderari putas? nolo commembrare quibus rebus sim spoliatus, non solum quia non ignoras sed etiam ne rescindam ipse dolorem meum; hoc confirmo neque tantis bonis esse privatum quemquam neque in tantas miserias incidisse. dies autem non modo non levat luctum hunc sed etiam auget. nam ceteri dolores mitigantur vetustate, hic non potest non et sensu praesentis miseriae et recordatione praeteritae vitae cotidie augeri. desidero enim non mea solum neque meos sed me ipsum. quid enim sum? sed non faciam ut aut tuum animum angam querelis aut meis vulneribus saepius manus adferam. nam quod purgas eos quos ego mihi scripsi invidisse et in eis Catonem, ego vero tantum illum puto ab isto scelere afuisse ut maxime doleam plus apud me simulationem aliorum quam istius fidem valuisse. ceteros quod purgas, debent mihi probati esse, tibi si sunt. sed haec sero agimus.
{{pn|15.3|3}}Crassi libertum nihil puto sincere locutum. in senatu rem probe scribis actam. sed quid Curio? an illam orationem non legit? quae unde sit prolata nescio. sed Axius eiusdem diei scribens ad me acta non ita laudat Curionem. at potest ille aliquid praetermittere, tu, nisi quod erat, profecto non scripsisti. Varronis sermo facit exspectationem Caesaris. atque utinam ipse Varro incumbat in causam! quod profecto cum sua sponte tum te instante faciet.
{{pn|15.4|4}}ego si me aliquando vestri et patriae compotem fortuna fecerit, certe efficiam ut maxime laetere unus ex omnibus amicis meaque officia et studia quae parum antea luxerunt (fatendum est enim) sic exsequar ut me aeque tibi ac fratri et liberis nostris restitutum putes. si quid in te peccavi ac potius quoniam peccavi ignosce; in me enim ipsum peccavi vehementius. neque haec eo scribo quo te non meo casu maximo dolore esse adfectum sciam, sed profecto, si quantum me amas et amasti tantum amare deberes ac debuisses, numquam esses passus me quo tu abundabas egere consilio nec esses passus mihi persuaderi utile nobis esse legem de collegiis perferri. sed tu tantum lacrimas praebuisti dolori meo, quod erat amoris, tam quam ipse ego; quod meritis meis perfectum potuit, ut dies et noctes quid mihi faciendum esset cogitares, id abs te meo non tuo scelere praetermissum est. quod si non modo tu sed quisquam fuisset qui me Pompei minus liberali responso perterritum a turpissimo consilio revocaret, quod unus tu facere maxime potuisti, (aut occubuissem honeste) aut victores hodie viveremus. hic mihi ignosces; me enim ipsum multo magis accuso, deinde te quasi me alterum et simul meae culpae socium quaero. ac si restituor, etiam minus videbimur deliquisse abs teque certe quoniam nullo nostro tuo ipsius beneficio diligemur.
{{pn|15.5|5}}quod te cum Culleone scribis de privilegio locutum, est aliquid sed multo est melius abrogari. si enim nemo impediet, sic est firmius; sin erit qui ferri non sinat, idem senatus consulto intercedet. nec quicquam aliud opus est [quam] abrogari; nam prior lex nos nihil laedebat. quam si ut est promulgata laudare voluissemus aut ut erat neglegenda neglegere, nocere omnino nobis non potuisset. hic mihi primum meum consilium defuit sed etiam obfuit Caeci, caeci inquam fuimus in vestitu mutando, in populo rogando, quod nisi nominatim mecum agi coeptum esset fieri perniciosum fuit. sed pergo praeterita verum tamen ob hanc causam ut, si quid agetur, legem illam in qua popularia multa sunt ne tangatis.
{{pn|15.6|6}}verum est stultum me praecipere quid agatis aut quo modo. Vtinam modo agatur aliquid! in quo ipso multa occultant tuae litterae, credo, ne vehementius desperatione perturber. quid enim vides agi posse aut quo modo? per senatumne? at tute scripsisti ad me quoddam caput legis Clodium in curiae poste fixisse, NE REFERRI NEVE DICI LICERET. Quo modo igitur Domitius se dixit relaturum? quo modo autem iis quos tu scribis et de re dicentibus et ut referretur postulantibus Clodius tacuit? ac si per populum, poteritne nisi de omnium tribunorum pl. sententia? quid de bonis? quid de domo? poteritne restitui? aut si non poterit, egomet quo modo potero? haec nisi vides expediri, quam in spem me vocas? sin autem spei nihil est, quae est mihi vita? itaque exspecto Thessalonicae acta Kal. Sext., ex quibus statuam in tuosne agros confugiam, ut neque videam homines quos nolim et te, ut scribis, videam et propius sim si quid agatur, idque intellexi cum tibi tum Quinto fratri placere, an abeam Cyzicum.
{{pn|15.7|7}}nunc, Pomponi, quoniam nihil impertisti tuae prudentiae ad salutem meam, quod aut in me ipso satis esse consili decreras aut te nihil plus mihi debere quam ut praesto esses, quoniamque ego proditus, inductus, coniectus in fraudem omnia mea praesidia neglexi, totam Italiam iam erectam ad me defendendum destitui et reliqui, me, meos meis tradidi inimicis inspectante et tacente te qui, si non plus ingenio valebas quam ego, certe timebas minus, si potes, erige adflictos et in eo nos iuva; sin omnia sunt obstructa, id ipsum fac ut sciamus et nos aliquando aut obiurgare aut communiter consolari desine. ego si tuam fidem accusarem, non me potissimum tuis tectis crederem; meam amentiam accuso quod (me) a te tantum amari quantum ego vellem putavi. quod si fuisset, fidem eandem, curam maiorem adhibuisses, me certe ad exitium praecipitantem retinuisses, istos labores quos nunc in naufragiis nostris suscipis non subisses.
{{pn|15.8|8}}qua re fac ut omnia ad me perspecta et explorata perscribas meque, ut facis, velis esse aliquem, quoniam qui fui et qui esse potui iam esse non possum, et ut his litteris non te sed me ipsum a me esse accusatum putes. si qui erunt quibus putes opus esse meo nomine litteras dari, velim conscribas curesque dandas. data xiiii Kal. Sept.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xii K. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|16.1|1}}totum iter mihi incertum facit exspectatio litterarum vestrarum Kal. Sextil. datarum. nam si spes erit, Epirum, si minus, Cyzicum aut aliud aliquid sequemur. tuae quidem litterae quo saepius a me leguntur, hoc spem faciunt mihi minorem; quae cum . . . . lectae sunt, tum id quod attulerunt ad spem infirmant, ut facile appareat te et consolationi servire et veritati. itaque te rogo plane ut ad me quae scies ut erunt, quae putabis ita scribas. data xii Kal.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae pr. Nomm. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|17.1|1}}de Quinto fratre nuntii nobis tristes nec varii venerant ex ante diem (III) non. Iun. usque ad prid. Kal. Sept. eo autem die Livineius L. Reguli libertus ad me a Regulo missus venit. is omnino mentionem nullam factam esse nuntiavit sed fuisse tamen sermonem de C. Clodi filio isque mihi a Q. fratre litteras attulit. sed postridie Sesti pueri venerunt qui a te litteras attulerunt non tam exploratas a timore quam sermo Livinei fuerat. sane sum in meo infinito maerore sollicitus et eo magis quod Appi quaestio est.
{{pn|17.2|2}}cetera quae ad me eisdem litteris scribis de nostra spe, intellego esse languidiora quam alii ostendunt. ego autem quoniam non longe ab eo tempore absumus in quo res diiudicabitur, aut ad te conferam me aut etiam nunc circum haec loca commorabor.
{{pn|17.3|3}}scribit ad me frater omnia sua per te unum sustineri. quid te aut horter quod facis, aut agam gratias quod non exspectas? tantum velim fortuna det nobis potestatem ut incolumes amore nostro perfruamur. tuas litteras semper maxime exspecto; in quibus cave vereare ne aut diligentia tua mihi molesta aut veritas acerba sit. data pr. Nonas Sept.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae media m. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|18.1|1}}exspectationem nobis non parvam attuleras cum scripseras Varronem tibi pro amicitia confirmasse causam nostram Pompeium certe suscepturum et, simul a Caesare ei litterae quas exspectaret remissae essent, actorem etiam daturum. Vtrum id nihil fuit, an adversatae sunt Caesaris litterae, an est aliquid in spe? etiam illud scripseras eundem 'secundum comitia' dixisse.
{{pn|18.2|2}}fac, si vides quantis in malis iaceam et si putas esse humanitatis tuae, me fac de tota causa nostra certiorem. nam Quintus frater, homo mirus, qui me tam valde amat, omnia mittit spei plena metuens, credo, defectionem animi mei; tuae autem litterae sunt variae; neque enim me desperare vis nec temere sperare. fac, obsecro te, ut omnia quae perspici a te possunt sciamus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xvi K. Oct. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|19.1|1}}quoad eius modi mihi litterae a vobis adferebantur ut aliquid ex iis esset exspectandum, spe et cupiditate Thessalonicae retentus sum; postea quam omnis actio huius anni confecta nobis videbatur, in Asiam ire nolui, quod et celebritas mihi odio est et, si fieret aliquid a novis magistratibus, abesse longe nolebam. itaque in Epirum ad te statui me conferre, non quo mea interesset loci natura qui lucem omnino fugerem, sed et (ad) salutem libentissime ex tuo portu proficiscar et, si ea praecisa erit, nusquam facilius hanc miserrimam vitam vel sustentabo vel, quod multo est melius, abiecero. (ero) cum paucis, multitudinem dimittam.
{{pn|19.2|2}}me tuae litterae numquam in tantam spem adduxerunt quantam aliorum; ac tamen mea spes etiam tenuior semper fuit quam tuae litterae. sed tamen quoniam coeptum est agi, quoquo modo coeptum est et quacumque de causa, non deseram neque optimi atque unici fratris miseras ac luctuosas preces nec Sesti ceterorumque promissa nec spem aerumnosissimae mulieris Terentiae nec miserrimae [mulieris] Tulliolae obsecrationem et fidelis litteras tuas. mihi Epirus aut iter ad salutem dabit aut quod scripsi supra.
{{pn|19.3|3}}te oro et obsecro, T. Pomponi, si me omnibus amplissimis, carissimis iucundissimisque rebus perfidia hominum spoliatum, si me a meis consiliariis proditum et proiectum vides, si intellegis me coactum ut ipse me et meos perderem, ut me tua misericordia iuves et Quintum fratrem qui potest esse salvus sustentes, Terentiam liberosque meos tueare, me, si putas te istic visurum, exspectes, si minus, invisas, si potes, mihique ex agro tuo tantum adsignes quantum meo corpore occupari potest, et pueros ad me cum litteris quam primum et quam saepissime mittas. data xvi Kal. Octobris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv Non. Oct. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO S. D. Q. CAECILIO Q. N POMPONIANO ATTICO}}
{{pn|20.1|1}}quod quidem ita esse et avunculum tuum functum esse officio vehementissime probo, gaudere me tum dicam, si mihi hoc verbo licebit uti. me miserum! quam omnia essent ex sententia, si nobis animus, si consilium, si fides eorum quibus credidimus non defuisset! quae conligere nolo ne augeam maerorem; sed tibi venire in mentem certo scio quae vita esset nostra, quae suavitas, quae dignitas. ad quae reciperanda, per fortunas! incumbe, ut facis, diemque natalem reditus mei cura ut in tuis aedibus amoenissimis agam tecum et cum meis. ego huic spei et exspectationi quae nobis proponitur maxime tamen volui praestolari apud te in Epiro, sed ita ad me scribitur ut putem esse commodius nos eisdem in locis esse.
{{pn|20.2|2}}de domo et Curionis oratione ut scribis ita est. in universa salute, si ea modo nobis restituetur, inerunt omnia; ex quibus nihil malo quam domum. sed tibi nihil mando nominatim, totum me tuo amori fideique commendo. quod te in tanta hereditate ab omni occupatione expedisti, valde mihi gratum est. quod facultates tuas ad meam salutem polliceris ut omnibus rebus a te praeter ceteros iuver, id quantum sit praesidium video intellegoque te multas partis meae salutis et suscipere et posse sustinere neque ut ita facias rogandum esse. {{pn|20.3|3}}quod me vetas quicquam suspicari accidisse ad animum tuum quod secus a me erga te commissum aut praetermissum videretur, geram tibi morem et liberabor ista cura, tibi tamen eo plus debebo quo tua in me humanitas fuerit excelsior quam in te mea. velim quid videas, quid intellegas, quid agatur ad me scribas tuosque omnis ad nostram salutem adhortere. rogatio Sesti neque dignitatis satis habet nec cautionis. nam et nominatim ferri oportet et de bonis diligentius scribi, et id animadvertas velim. data iiii Nonas Octobris Thessalonicae.
==<span id='XXI.1'></span><center>[XXI]<br/>Scr. Thessalonicae v K. Nov. a. 696 (58)<br/>CICERO ATTICO SAL.</center>==
triginta dies erant ipsi cum has dabam litteras per quos nullas a vobis acceperam. mihi autem erat in animo iam, ut antea ad te scripsi, ire in Epirum et ibi omnem casum potissimum exspectare. te oro ut, si quid erit quod perspicias quamcumque in partem, quam planissime ad me scribas et meo nomine, ut scribis, litteras quibus putabis opus esse ut des. data v Kal. Novembris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXII.}}}}<br>Scr. partim Thessalonicae partim Dyrrachi vi K. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|22.1|1}}etsi diligenter ad me Quintus frater et Piso quae essent acta scripserant, tamen vellem tua te occupatio non impedisset quo minus, ut consuesti, ad me quid ageretur et quid intellegeres perscriberes. me adhuc Plancius liberalitate sua retinet iam aliquotiens conatum ire in Epirum. spes homini est iniecta non eadem quae mihi posse nos una decedere; quam rem sibi magno honori sperat fore. sed iam, cum adventare milites dicentur, faciendum nobis erit ut ab eo discedamus. quod cum faciemus, ad te statim mittemus, ut scias ubi simus.
{{pn|22.2|2}}Lentulus suo in nos officio, quod et re et promissis et litteris declarat, spem nobis non nullam adfert Pompei voluntatis; saepe enim tu ad me scripsisti eum totum esse in illius potestate. de Metello scripsit ad me frater quantum speraret profectum esse per te. {{pn|22.3|3}}mi Pomponi, pugna ut tecum et cum meis mihi liceat vivere et scribe ad me omnia. premor luctu, desiderio cum omnium rerum (tum meorum) qui mihi me cariores semper fuerunt. cura ut valeas.
{{pn|22.4|4}}ego quod per Thessaliam si irem in Epirum perdiu nihil eram auditurus et quod mei studiosos habeo Dyrrachinos, ad eos perrexi, cum illa superiora Thessalonicae scripsissem. Inde cum ad te me convertam, faciam ut scias, tuque ad me velim omnia quam diligentissime cuicuimodi sunt scribas. ego iam aut rem aut ne spem quidem exspecto. data vi Kal. Decembr. Dyrrachi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi pr. K. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|23.1|1}}A. d. v Kal. Decembr. tris epistulas a te accepi, unam datam a. d. viii Kal. Novembris in qua me hortaris ut forti animo mensem Ianuarium exspectem, eaque quae ad spem putas pertinere de Lentuli studio, de Metelli voluntate, de tota Pompei ratione perscribis. in altera epistula praeter consuetudinem tuam diem non adscribis sed satis significas tempus; lege enim ab octo tribunis pl. promulgata scribis te eas litteras eo ipso die dedisse, id est a. d. iiii Kal. Novembris, et quid putes utilitatis eam promulgationem attulisse perscribis. in quo si iam nostra salus cum hac lege desperata erit, velim pro tuo in me amore hanc inanem meam diligentiam miserabilem potius quam ineptam putes, sin est aliquid spei, des operam ut maiore diligentia posthac a nostris magistratibus defendamur.
{{pn|23.2|2}}nam ea veterum tribunorum pl. rogatio tria capita habuit; unum de reditu meo scriptum incaute; nihil enim restituitur praeter civitatem et ordinem, quod mihi pro meo casu satis est; sed quae cavenda fuerint et quo modo te non fugit. alterum caput est tralaticium de impunitate, SI QVID CONTRA ALIAS LEGES EIVS LEGIS ERGO FACTVM SIT. Tertium caput, mi Pomponi, quo consilio et a quo sit inculcatum vide. scis enim Clodium sanxisse ut vix aut ut omnino non posset nec per senatum nec per populum infirmari sua lex. sed vides numquam esse observatas sanctiones earum legum; quae abrogarentur. nam si id esset, nulla fere abrogari posset; neque enim ulla est quae non ipsa se saepiat difficultate abrogationis. sed cum lex abrogatur, illud ipsum abrogatur quo modo eam abrogari oporteat.
{{pn|23.3|3}}hoc quom et re vera ita sit et quom semper ita habitum observatumque sit, octo nostri tribuni pl. caput posuerunt hoc: SI QVID IN HAC ROGATIONE SCRIPTVM EST QVOD PER LEGES PLEBISVE SCITA, hoc est quod per legem Clodiam, PROMVLGARE, ABROGARE, DEROGARE, OBROGARE SINE FRAVDE SVA NON LICEAT, NON LICVERIT, QVODVE EI, QVI PROMVLGAVIT, <ABROGAVIT>, DEROGAVIT, <OBROGAVIT>, OB EAM REM POENAE MVLTAEVE SIT, E. H. L. N. R.
{{pn|23.4|4}}atque hoc in illis tribunis pl. non laedebat; lege enim collegi sui non tenebantur. quo maior est suspicio malitiae aliquoius, cum id quod ad ipsos nihil pertinebat erat autem contra me scripserunt, ut novi tribuni pl. si essent timidiores multo magis sibi eo capite utendum putarent. neque id a Clodio praetermissum est; dixit enim in contione a. d. III Nonas Novembris hoc capite designatis tribunis pl. praescriptum esse quid liceret. tamen in lege nulla esse eius modi caput te non fallit, quod si opus esset, omnes in abrogando <uterentur>r;. Vt Ninnium aut ceteros fugerit investiges velim et quis attulerit et qua re octo tribuni pl. ad senatum de me referre non dubitarint, <sive> . . . sive quod observandum illud caput non putabant, eidem in abrogando tam cauti fuerint ut id metuerent soluti cum essent, quod ne iis quidem qui lege tenentur est curandum. id caput sane nolim novos tribunos pl. ferre; sed perferant modo quidlibet; uno capite quo revocabor, modo res conficiatur, ero contentus. iam dudum pudet tam multa scribere; vereor enim ne re iam desperata legas, ut haec mea diligentia miserabilis tibi, aliis inridenda videatur. sed si est aliquid in spe, vide legem quam T. Fadio scripsit Visellius. ea mihi perplacet; nam Sesti nostri quam tu tibi probari scribis mihi non placet.
{{pn|23.5|5}}Tertia est epistula pridie Idus Novembr. data, in qua exponis prudenter et diligenter quae sint quae rem distinere videantur, de Crasso, de Pompeio, de ceteris. qua re oro te ut, si qua spes erit posse studiis bonorum, auctoritate, multitudine comparata rem confici, des operam ut uno impetu perfringantur, in eam rem incumbas ceterosque excites. sin, ut ego perspicio cum tua coniectura tum etiam mea, spei nihil est, oro obtestorque te ut Quintum fratrem ames quem ego miserum misere perdidi neve quid eum patiare gravius consulere de se quam expediat sororis tuae filio, meum Ciceronem quoi nihil misello relinquo praeter invidiam et ignominiam nominis mei tueare quoad poteris, Terentiam, unam omnium aerumnosissimam, sustentes tuis officiis. ego in Epirum proficiscar quom primorum dierum nuntios excepero. tu ad me velim proximis litteris ut se initia dederint perscribas. data pridie Kal. Decembr.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachium Id. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|24.1|1}}antea quom ad me scripsissetis vestro consensu consulum provincias ornatas esse, etsi verebar quorsum id casurum esset, tamen sperabam vos aliquid aliquando vidisse prudentius; postea quam mihi et dictum est et scriptum vehementer consilium vestrum reprehendi, sum graviter commotus, quod illa ipsa spes exigua quae erat videretur esse sublata. nam si tribuni pl. nobis suscensent, quae potest spes esse? ac videntur iure suscensere, cum et expertes consili fuerint ei qui causam nostram susceperant, et vestra concessione omnem vim sui iuris amiserint, praesertim cum ita dicant, se nostra causa voluisse suam potestatem esse de consulibus ornandis non ut eos impedirent sed ut ad nostram causam adiungerent; nunc si consules a nobis alieniores esse velint, posse id libere facere; sin velint nostra causa, nihil posse se invitis. nam quod scribis, ni ita vobis placuisset, illos hoc idem per populum adsecuturos fuisse, invitis tribunis pl. fieri nullo modo potuit. ita vereor ne et studia tribunorum amiserimus et, si studia maneant, vinclum illud adiungendorum consulum amissum sit.
{{pn|24.2|2}}accedit aliud non parvum incommodum quod gravis illa opinio, ut quidem ad nos perferebatur, senatum nihil decernere ante quam de nobis actum esset, amissa est, praesertim in ea causa quae non modo necessaria non fuit sed etiam inusitata ac nova (neque enim umquam arbitror ornatas esse provincias designatorum), ut, cum in hoc illa constantia quae erat mea causa suscepta imminuta sit, nihil iam possit non decerni. Iis ad quos relatum est amicis placuisse non mirum est; erat enim difficile reperire qui contra tanta commoda duorum consulum palam sententiam diceret. fuit omnino difficile non obsequi vel amicissimo homini Lentulo vel Metello qui simultatem humanissime deponeret; sed vereor ne hos tamen tenere potuerimus, tribunos pl. amiserimus. haec res quem ad modum ceciderit et tota res quo loco sit velim ad me scribas et ita ut instituisti. nam ista veritas, etiam si iucunda non est, mihi tamen grata est. data iiii Id. Decembr.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXV.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi m. Dec. a. 696 (58) post iv Id., ante ii K. Ian.<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|25.1|1}}post tuum a me discessum litterae mihi Roma adlatae sunt ex quibus perspicio nobis in hac calamitate tabescendum esse. neque enim (sed bonam in partem accipies) si ulla spes salutis nostrae subesset, tu pro tuo amore in me hoc tempore discessisses. sed ne ingrati aut ne omnia velle nobiscum una interire videamur, hoc omitto; illud abs te peto des operam, id quod mihi adfirmasti, ut te ante Kalendas Ianuarias ubicumque erimus sistas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi m. Ianuario a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|26.1|1}}Litterae mihi a Quinto fratre cum senatus consulto quod de me est factum adlatae sunt. mihi in animo est legum lationem exspectare et, si obtrectabitur, utar auctoritate senatus et potius vita quam patria carebo. tu, quaeso, festina ad nos venire.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi ex. m. Ian. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|27.1|1}}ex tuis litteris et ex re ipsa nos funditus perisse video. te oro ut quibus in rebus tui mei indigebunt nostris miseriis ne desis. ego te, ut scribis, cito videbo.
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. proficiscens in exsilium in. in Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|1.1|1}}Cum antea maxime nostra interesse arbitrabar te esse nobiscum, tum vero, ut legi rogationem, intellexi ad iter id quod constitui nihil mihi optatius cadere posse quam ut tu me quam primum consequerere, ut, cum ex Italia profecti essemus, sive per Epirum iter esset faciendum, tuo tuorumque praesidio uteremur, sive aliud quid agendum esset, certum consilium de tua sententia capere possemus. quam ob rem te oro des operam ut me statim consequare; quod eo facilius potes quoniam de provincia Macedonia perlata lex est. pluribus verbis tecum agerem nisi pro me apud te res ipsa loqueretur.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere vi Id. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|2.1|1}}itineris nostri causa fuit quod non habebam locum ubi pro meo iure diutius esse possem quam in fundo Siccae, praesertim nondum rogatione correcta, et simul intellegebam ex eo loco, si te haberem, posse me Brundisium referre, sine te autem non esse nobis illas partis tenendas propter Autronium. nunc ut ad te antea scripsi, si ad nos veneris, consilium totius rei capiemus. iter esse molestum scio sed tota calamitas omnis molestias habet. plura scribere non possum; ita sum animo perculso et abiecto. cura ut valeas. data vi Idus Aprilis naribus Luc.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. Itinere circ. Non. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|3.1|1}}Vtinam illum diem videam cum tibi agam gratias quod me vivere coegisti! adhuc quidem valde me paenitet. sed te oro ut ad me Vibonem statim venias quo ego multis de causis converti iter meum. sed eo si veneris, de tota itinere ac fuga mea consilium capere potero. si id non feceris, mirabor; sed confido te esse facturum.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere inter Vibonem et Brundisium post ep. 5 Id. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|4.1|1}}miseriae nostrae potius velim quam inconstantiae tribuas quod a Vibone quo te arcessebamus subito discessimus. adlata est enim nobis rogatio de pernicie mea; in qua quod correctum esse audieramus erat eius modi ut mihi ultra quingenta milia liceret esse, illuc pervenire non liceret. statim iter Brundisium versus contuli ante diem rogationis, ne et Sicca apud quem eram periret et quod Melitae esse non licebat. nunc tu propera ut nos consequare, si modo recipiemur. adhuc invitamur benigne, sed quod superest timemus. me, mi Pomponi, valde paenitet vivere; qua in re apud me tu plurimum valuisti. sed haec coram. fac modo ut venias.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. Thuriis iv Id. Apr., ut videtur, a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|5.1|1}}Terentia tibi et saepe et maximas agit gratias. id est mihi gratissimum. ego vivo miserrimus et maximo dolore conficior. ad te quid scribam nescio. si enim es Romae, iam me adsequi non potes; sin es in via, cum eris me adsecutus, coram agemus quae erunt agenda. tantum te oro ut, quoniam me ipsum semper amasti, ut eodem amore sis; ego enim idem sum. inimici mei mea mihi, non me ipsum ademerunt. cura ut valeas. data iiii Idus April. Thuri.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Tarenthmo xiv K. Mai. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|6.1|1}}non fuerat mihi dubium quin te Tarenti aut Brundisi visurus essem idque ad multa pertinuit, in eis et ut in Epiro consisteremus et de reliquis rebus tuo consilio uteremur. quoniam id non contigit, erit hoc quoque in magno numero nostrorum malorum. nobis iter est in Asiam, maxime Cyzicum. meos tibi commendo. me vix misereque sustento. data xiiii K. Maias de Tarentino.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. Brundisii pr. K. Mai. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|7.1|1}}Brundisium veni a. d xiiii Kal. Maias. eo die pueri tui mihi a te litteras reddiderunt, et alii pueri post diem tertium eius diei alias litteras attulerunt. quod me rogas et hortaris ut apud te in Epiro sim, voluntas tua mihi valde grata est et minime nova. esset consilium mihi quidem optatum, si liceret ibi omne tempus consumere; odi enim celebritatem, fugio homines, lucem aspicere vix possum, esset mihi ista solitudo, praesertim tam familiari in loco, non amara; sed itineris causa ut deverterer, primum est devium, deinde ab Autronio et ceteris quadridui, deinde sine te. nam castellum munitum habitanti mihi prodesset, transeunti non est necessarium. quod si auderem, Athenas peterem. sane ita cadebat ut vellem. nunc et nostri hostes ibi sunt et te non habemus et veremur ne interpretentur illud quoque oppidum ab Italia non satis abesse nec scribis quam ad diem te exspectemus.
{{pn|7.2|2}}quod me ad vitam vocas, unum efficis ut a me manus abstineam, alterum non potes ut me non nostri consili vitaeque paeniteat. quid enim est quod me retineat, praesertim si spes ea non est quae nos proficiscentis prosequebatur? non faciam ut enumerem miserias omnis in quas incidi per summam iniuriam et scelus non tam inimicorum meorum quam invidorum, ne et meum maerorem exagitem et te in eundem luctum vocem; hoc adfirmo, neminem umquam tanta calamitate esse adfectum, nemini mortem magis optandam fuisse. quoius oppetendae tempus honestissimum praetermissum est; reliqua tempora sunt non tam ad medicinam quam ad finem doloris.
{{pn|7.3|3}}de re publica video te conligere omnia quae putes aliquam spem mihi posse adferre mutandarum rerum. quae quamquam exigua sunt, tamen, quoniam placet, exspectemus. tu nihilo minus si properans nos consequere; nam aut accedemus in Epirum aut tarde per Candaviam ibimus. dubitationem autem de Epiro non inconstantia nostra adferebat sed quod de fratre ubi eum visuri essemus nesciebamus; quem quidem ego nec (quo) modo visurus nec ut dimissurus sim scio. id est maximum et miserrimum mearum omnium miseriarum. ego et saepius ad te et plura scriberem, nisi mihi dolor meus cum omnis partis mentis tum maxime huius generis facultatem ademisset. videre te cupio. cura ut valeas. data pr. Kal. Mat Brundisi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv K. Iun. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|8.1|1}}Brundisio proficiscens scripseram ad te quas ob causas in Epirum non essemus profecti, quod et Achaia prope esset plena audacissimorum inimicorum et exitus difficilis haberet cum inde proficisceremur. accessit cum Dyrrachi essemus ut duo nuntii adferrentur, unus classe fratrem Epheso Athenas, alter pedibus per Macedoniam venire. itaque illi obviam misimus Athenas ut inde Thessalonicam veniret. ipsi processimus et Thessalonicam a. d. x Kal. Iunias venimus neque de illius itinere quicquam certi habebamus nisi eum ab Epheso ante aliquanto profectum.
{{pn|8.2|2}}nunc istic quid agatur magno opere timeo; quamquam tu altera epistula scribis Idibus Maus audiri fore ut acrius postularetur, altera iam esse mitiora. sed haec est pridie data quam illa, quo conturber magis. itaque cum meus me maeror cotidianus lacerat et conficit tum vero haec addita cura vix mihi vitam reliquam facit. sed et navigatio perdifficilis fuit et ille incertus ubi ego essem fortasse alium cursum petivit. nam Phaetho libertus eum non vidit. vento reiectus ab Ilio in Macedoniam Pellae mihi praesto fuit. reliqua quam mihi timenda sint video nec quid scribam habeo et omnia timeo, nec tam miserum est quicquam quod non in nostram fortunam cadere videatur. equidem adhuc miser in maximis meis aerumnis et luctibus hoc metu adiecto maneo Thessalonicae suspensus nec audeo quicquam.
{{pn|8.3|3}}nunc ad ea quae scripsisti. Tryphonem Caecilium non vidi. sermonem tuum et Pompei cognovi ex tuis litteris. Motuit in re publica non tantum ego impendere video quantum tu aut vides aut ad me consolandum adfers. Tigrane enim neglecto sublata sunt omnia. Varroni me iubes agere gratias. faciam; item Hypsaeo. quod suades ne longius discedamus dum acta mensis Mai ad nos perferantur, puto me ita esse facturum sed ubi nondum statui; atque ita perturbato sum animo de Quinto ut nihil queam statuere sed tamen statim te faciam certiorem.
{{pn|8.4|4}}ex epistularum mearum inconstantia puto te mentis meae motum videre qui, etsi incredibili et singulari calamitate adflictus sum, tamen non tam est ex miseria quam ex culpae nostrae recordatione commotus. cuius enim scelere impulsi ac proditi simus iam profecto vides, atque utinam iam ante vidisses neque totum animum tuum maerori mecum simul dedisses! qua re cum me adflictum et confectum luctu audies, existimato me stultitiae meae poenam ferre gravius quam eventi, quod ei crediderim quem esse nefarium non putarim. me et meorum malorum memoria et metus de fratre in scribendo impedit. tu ista omnia vide et guberna Terentia tibi maximas gratias agit. Litterarum exemplum quas ad Pompeium scripsi misi tibi. data iiii Kal. Iunias Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae 1d. Iun. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|9.1|1}}{{pn|9.1|1}}Quintus frater cum ex Asia discessisset ante Kal. Maias et Athenas venisset Idibus, valde fuit ei properandum, ne quid absens acciperet calamitatis, si quis forte fuisset qui contentus nostris malis non esset. itaque eum malui properare Romam quam ad me venire et simul (dicam enim quod verum est, ex quo magnitudinem miseriarum mearum perspicere possis) animum inducere non potui ut aut illum amantissimum mei mollissimo animo tanto in maerore aspicerem aut meas miserias luctu adflictus et perditam fortunam illi offerrem aut ab illo aspici paterer. atque etiam illud timebam, quod profecto accidisset, ne a me digredi non posset. versabatur mihi tempus illud ante oculos quom ille aut lictores dimitteret aut vi avelleretur ex complexu meo. huius acerbitatis eventum altera acerbitate non videndi fratris vitavi. in hunc me casum vos vivendi auctores impulistis.
{{pn|9.2|2}}itaque mei peccati luo poenas. quam quam me tuae litterae sustentant ex quibus quantum tu ipse speres facile perspicio; quae quidem tamen aliquid habebant solaci ante quam eo venisti a Pompeio. 'nunc Hortensium adlice et eius modi viros.' obsecro, mi Pomponi, nondum perspicis quorum opera, quorum insidiis, quorum scelere perierimus? sed tecum haec omnia coram agemus; tantum dico quod scire te puto, nos non inimici sed invidi perdiderunt. nunc si ita sunt quae speras, sustinebimus nos et spe qua iubes nitemur; sin, ut mihi videntur, infirma sunt, quod optimo tempore facere non licuit minus idoneo fiet.
{{pn|9.3|3}}Terentia tibi saepe agit gratias. mihi etiam unum de malis in metu est, fratris miseri negotium; quod si sciam quoius modi sit, sciam quid agendum mihi sit. me etiam nunc istorum beneficiorum et litterarum exspectatio, ut tibi placet, Thessalonicae tenet. si quid erit novi adlatum, sciam de reliquo quid agendum sit. tu si, ut scribis, Kal. Iuniis Roma profectus es, prope diem nos videbis. Litteras quas ad Pompeium scripsi tibi misi. data id. Iun. Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. Thcssalonicae xko K. Qithit. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|10.1|1}}Acta quae essent usque ad a. d. viii Kal. Iunias cognovi ex tuis litteris; reliqua exspectabam, ut tibi placebat, Thessalonicae. quibus adlatis facilius statuere potero ubi sim. nam si erit causa, si quid agetur, si spem videro, aut ibidem opperiar aut me ad te conferam; sin, ut tu scribis, ista evanuerint, aliquid aliud videbimus. omnino adhuc nihil mihi significatis nisi discordiam istorum; quae tamen inter eos de omnibus potius rebus est quam de me. itaque quid ea mihi prosit nescio sed tamen quoad me vos sperare vultis vobis obtemperabo.
{{pn|10.2|2}}nam quod me tam saepe et tam vehementer obiurgas et animo infirmo esse dicis, quaeso, ecquod tantum malum est quod in mea calamitate non sit? ecquis umquam tam ex amplo statu, tam in bona causa, tantis facultatibus ingeni, consili, gratiae, tantis praesidiis bonorum omnium concidit? possum oblivisci qui fuerim, non sentire qui sim, quo caream honore, qua gloria, quibus liberis, quibus fortunis, quo fratre? quem ego, ut novum calamitatis genus attendas, quom pluris facerem quam me ipsum semperque fecissem, vitavi ne viderem, ne aut illius luctum squaloremque aspicerem aut me quem ille florentissimum reliquerat perditum illi adflictumque offerrem. Mitto cetera intolerabilia; etenim fletu impedior. hic utrum tandem sum accusandus quod doleo, an quod commisi ut haec non aut retinerem, quod facile fuisset nisi intra parietes meos de mea pernicie consilia inirentur, aut certe vivus non amitterem?
{{pn|10.3|3}}haec eo scripsi ut potius relevares me, quod facis, quam ut castigatione aut obiurgatione dignum putares, eoque ad te minus multa scribo quod et maerore impedior et quod exspectem istinc magis habeo quam quod ipse scribam. quae si erunt adlata, faciam te consili nostri certiorem. tu, ut adhuc fecisti, quam plurimis de rebus ad me velim scribas, ut prorsus ne quid ignorem. data xiiii Kal. Quintilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv K. Quint. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|11.1|1}}me et tuae litterae et quidam boni nuntii, non optimis tamen auctoribus, et exspectatio vestrarum litterarum et quod tibi ita placuerat adhuc Thessalonicae tenebat. si accepero litteras quas exspecto, si spes erit ea quae rumoribus adferebatur, ad te me conferam; si non erit, faciam te certiorem quid egerim.
{{pn|11.2|2}}tu me, ut facis, opera, consilio, gratia iuva; consolari iam desine, obiurgare vero noli; quod cum facis, ut ego tuum amorem et dolorem desidero! quem ita adfectum mea aerumna esse arbitror ut te ipsum consolari nemo possit. Quintum fratrem optimum humanissimumque sustenta. ad me obsecro te ut omnia certa perscribas. data iiii Kal. Quintilis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xvi Kal. Sext. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|12.1|1}}tu quidem sedulo argumentaris quid sit sperandum et maxime per senatum idemque caput rogationis proponi scribis qua re in senatu dici nihil liceat. itaque siletur. hic tu me accusas quod me adflictem, cum ita sim adflictus ut nemo umquam, quod tute intellegis. spem ostendis secundum comitia. quae ista est eodem tribuno pl. et inimico consule designato? percussisti autem me etiam de oratione prolata.
{{pn|12.2|2}}cui vulneri ut scribis medere, si quid potes. scripsi equidem olim ei iratus, quod ille prior scripserat, sed ita compresseram ut numquam emanaturam putarem. quo modo exciderit nescio. sed quia numquam accidit ut cum eo verbo uno concertarem et quia scripta mihi videtur neglegentius quam ceterae, puto posse probari non esse meam. id, si putas me posse sanari, cures velim; sin plane perii, minus laboro.
{{pn|12.3|3}}ego etiam nunc eodem in loco iaceo sine sermone ullo, sine cogitatione ulla. scilicet tibi, ut scribis, significaram ut ad me venires; Üsi donatam utÜ intellego te istic prodesse, hic ne verbo quidem levare me posse. non queo plura scribere nec est quod scribam; vestra magis exspecto. data xvi Kal. Sextilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae Non. Sext. a. 696 (58). .<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|13.1|1}}quod ad te scripseram me in Epiro futurum, postea quam extenuari spem nostram et evanescere vidi, mutavi consilium nec me Thessalonica commovi, ubi esse statueram quoad aliquid ad me de eo scriberes, quod proximis litteris scripseras fore uti secundum comitia aliquid de nobis in senatu ageretur; id tibi Pompeium dixisse. qua de re quoniam comitia habita sunt tuque nihil ad me scribis, proinde habebo ac si scripsisses nihil esse neque (me) temporis non longinqui spe ductum esse moleste feram. quem autem motum te videre scripseras qui nobis utilis fore videretur, eum nuntiant qui veniunt nullum fore. in tribunis pl. designatis reliqua spes est. quam si exspectaro, non erit quod putes me causae meae, voluntati meorum defuisse.
{{pn|13.2|2}}quod me saepe accusas cur hunc meum casum tam graviter feram, debes ignoscere, cum ita me adflictum videas ut neminem umquam nec videris nec audieris. nam quod scribis te audire me etiam mentis errore ex dolore adfici, mihi vero mens integra est. atque utinam tam in periculo fuisset! cum ego iis quibus meam salutem carissimam esse arbitrabar inimicissimis crudelissimisque usus sum; qui, ut me paulum inclinari timore viderunt, sic impulerunt ut omni suo scelere et perfidia abuterentur ad exitium meum. nunc quoniam est Cyzicum nobis eundum, quo rarius ad me litterae perferentur, hoc velim diligentius omnia quae putaris me scire opus esse perscribas. Quintum fratrem meum fac diligas; quem ego miser si incolumem relinquo, non me totum perisse arbitrabor. data Nonis Sextilibus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae x K. Sext. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|14.1|1}}ex tuis litteris plenus sum exspectatione de Pompeio quidnam de nobis velit aut ostendat. comitia enim credo esse habita; quibus absolutis scribis illi placuisse agi de nobis. si tibi stultus esse videor qui sperem, facio tuo iussu, etsi scio te me iis epistulis potius et meas spes solitum esse remorari. nunc velim mihi plane perscribas quid videas. scio nos nostris multis peccatis in hanc aerumnam incidisse. ea si qui casus aliqua ex parte correxerit, minus moleste feremus nos vixisse et adhuc vivere.
{{pn|14.2|2}}ego propter viae celebritatem et cotidianam exspectationem rerum novarum non commovi me adhuc Thessalonica. sed iam extrudimur non a Plancio (nam is quidem retinet) verum ab ipso loco minime apposito ad tolerandam in tanto luctu calamitatem. in Epirum ideo, ut scripseram, non veni, quod subito mihi universi nuntii venerant et litterae qua re nihil esset necesse quam proxime Italiam esse. hinc, si aliquid a comitiis audierimus, nos in Asiam convertemus; neque adhuc stabat quo potissimum sed scies. data xii Sextilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xiv K. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|15.1|1}}accepi Idibus Sextilibus quattuor epistulas a te missas, unam qua me obiurgas et rogas ut sim firmior, alteram qua Crassi libertum ais tibi de mea sollicitudine macieque narrasse, tertiam qua demonstras acta in senatu, quartam de eo quod a Varrone scribis tibi esse confirmatum de voluntate Pompei.
{{pn|15.2|2}}ad primam tibi hoc scribo, me ita dolere ut non modo a mente non deserar sed id ipsum doleam, me tam firma mente ubi utar et quibuscum non habere. nam si tu me uno non sine maerore cares, quid me censes qui et te et omnibus? et si tu incolumis me requiris, quo modo a me ipsam incolumitatem desiderari putas? nolo commembrare quibus rebus sim spoliatus, non solum quia non ignoras sed etiam ne rescindam ipse dolorem meum; hoc confirmo neque tantis bonis esse privatum quemquam neque in tantas miserias incidisse. dies autem non modo non levat luctum hunc sed etiam auget. nam ceteri dolores mitigantur vetustate, hic non potest non et sensu praesentis miseriae et recordatione praeteritae vitae cotidie augeri. desidero enim non mea solum neque meos sed me ipsum. quid enim sum? sed non faciam ut aut tuum animum angam querelis aut meis vulneribus saepius manus adferam. nam quod purgas eos quos ego mihi scripsi invidisse et in eis Catonem, ego vero tantum illum puto ab isto scelere afuisse ut maxime doleam plus apud me simulationem aliorum quam istius fidem valuisse. ceteros quod purgas, debent mihi probati esse, tibi si sunt. sed haec sero agimus.
{{pn|15.3|3}}Crassi libertum nihil puto sincere locutum. in senatu rem probe scribis actam. sed quid Curio? an illam orationem non legit? quae unde sit prolata nescio. sed Axius eiusdem diei scribens ad me acta non ita laudat Curionem. at potest ille aliquid praetermittere, tu, nisi quod erat, profecto non scripsisti. Varronis sermo facit exspectationem Caesaris. atque utinam ipse Varro incumbat in causam! quod profecto cum sua sponte tum te instante faciet.
{{pn|15.4|4}}ego si me aliquando vestri et patriae compotem fortuna fecerit, certe efficiam ut maxime laetere unus ex omnibus amicis meaque officia et studia quae parum antea luxerunt (fatendum est enim) sic exsequar ut me aeque tibi ac fratri et liberis nostris restitutum putes. si quid in te peccavi ac potius quoniam peccavi ignosce; in me enim ipsum peccavi vehementius. neque haec eo scribo quo te non meo casu maximo dolore esse adfectum sciam, sed profecto, si quantum me amas et amasti tantum amare deberes ac debuisses, numquam esses passus me quo tu abundabas egere consilio nec esses passus mihi persuaderi utile nobis esse legem de collegiis perferri. sed tu tantum lacrimas praebuisti dolori meo, quod erat amoris, tam quam ipse ego; quod meritis meis perfectum potuit, ut dies et noctes quid mihi faciendum esset cogitares, id abs te meo non tuo scelere praetermissum est. quod si non modo tu sed quisquam fuisset qui me Pompei minus liberali responso perterritum a turpissimo consilio revocaret, quod unus tu facere maxime potuisti, (aut occubuissem honeste) aut victores hodie viveremus. hic mihi ignosces; me enim ipsum multo magis accuso, deinde te quasi me alterum et simul meae culpae socium quaero. ac si restituor, etiam minus videbimur deliquisse abs teque certe quoniam nullo nostro tuo ipsius beneficio diligemur.
{{pn|15.5|5}}quod te cum Culleone scribis de privilegio locutum, est aliquid sed multo est melius abrogari. si enim nemo impediet, sic est firmius; sin erit qui ferri non sinat, idem senatus consulto intercedet. nec quicquam aliud opus est [quam] abrogari; nam prior lex nos nihil laedebat. quam si ut est promulgata laudare voluissemus aut ut erat neglegenda neglegere, nocere omnino nobis non potuisset. hic mihi primum meum consilium defuit sed etiam obfuit Caeci, caeci inquam fuimus in vestitu mutando, in populo rogando, quod nisi nominatim mecum agi coeptum esset fieri perniciosum fuit. sed pergo praeterita verum tamen ob hanc causam ut, si quid agetur, legem illam in qua popularia multa sunt ne tangatis.
{{pn|15.6|6}}verum est stultum me praecipere quid agatis aut quo modo. Vtinam modo agatur aliquid! in quo ipso multa occultant tuae litterae, credo, ne vehementius desperatione perturber. quid enim vides agi posse aut quo modo? per senatumne? at tute scripsisti ad me quoddam caput legis Clodium in curiae poste fixisse, NE REFERRI NEVE DICI LICERET. Quo modo igitur Domitius se dixit relaturum? quo modo autem iis quos tu scribis et de re dicentibus et ut referretur postulantibus Clodius tacuit? ac si per populum, poteritne nisi de omnium tribunorum pl. sententia? quid de bonis? quid de domo? poteritne restitui? aut si non poterit, egomet quo modo potero? haec nisi vides expediri, quam in spem me vocas? sin autem spei nihil est, quae est mihi vita? itaque exspecto Thessalonicae acta Kal. Sext., ex quibus statuam in tuosne agros confugiam, ut neque videam homines quos nolim et te, ut scribis, videam et propius sim si quid agatur, idque intellexi cum tibi tum Quinto fratri placere, an abeam Cyzicum.
{{pn|15.7|7}}nunc, Pomponi, quoniam nihil impertisti tuae prudentiae ad salutem meam, quod aut in me ipso satis esse consili decreras aut te nihil plus mihi debere quam ut praesto esses, quoniamque ego proditus, inductus, coniectus in fraudem omnia mea praesidia neglexi, totam Italiam iam erectam ad me defendendum destitui et reliqui, me, meos meis tradidi inimicis inspectante et tacente te qui, si non plus ingenio valebas quam ego, certe timebas minus, si potes, erige adflictos et in eo nos iuva; sin omnia sunt obstructa, id ipsum fac ut sciamus et nos aliquando aut obiurgare aut communiter consolari desine. ego si tuam fidem accusarem, non me potissimum tuis tectis crederem; meam amentiam accuso quod (me) a te tantum amari quantum ego vellem putavi. quod si fuisset, fidem eandem, curam maiorem adhibuisses, me certe ad exitium praecipitantem retinuisses, istos labores quos nunc in naufragiis nostris suscipis non subisses.
{{pn|15.8|8}}qua re fac ut omnia ad me perspecta et explorata perscribas meque, ut facis, velis esse aliquem, quoniam qui fui et qui esse potui iam esse non possum, et ut his litteris non te sed me ipsum a me esse accusatum putes. si qui erunt quibus putes opus esse meo nomine litteras dari, velim conscribas curesque dandas. data xiiii Kal. Sept.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xii K. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|16.1|1}}totum iter mihi incertum facit exspectatio litterarum vestrarum Kal. Sextil. datarum. nam si spes erit, Epirum, si minus, Cyzicum aut aliud aliquid sequemur. tuae quidem litterae quo saepius a me leguntur, hoc spem faciunt mihi minorem; quae cum . . . . lectae sunt, tum id quod attulerunt ad spem infirmant, ut facile appareat te et consolationi servire et veritati. itaque te rogo plane ut ad me quae scies ut erunt, quae putabis ita scribas. data xii Kal.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae pr. Nomm. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|17.1|1}}de Quinto fratre nuntii nobis tristes nec varii venerant ex ante diem (III) non. Iun. usque ad prid. Kal. Sept. eo autem die Livineius L. Reguli libertus ad me a Regulo missus venit. is omnino mentionem nullam factam esse nuntiavit sed fuisse tamen sermonem de C. Clodi filio isque mihi a Q. fratre litteras attulit. sed postridie Sesti pueri venerunt qui a te litteras attulerunt non tam exploratas a timore quam sermo Livinei fuerat. sane sum in meo infinito maerore sollicitus et eo magis quod Appi quaestio est.
{{pn|17.2|2}}cetera quae ad me eisdem litteris scribis de nostra spe, intellego esse languidiora quam alii ostendunt. ego autem quoniam non longe ab eo tempore absumus in quo res diiudicabitur, aut ad te conferam me aut etiam nunc circum haec loca commorabor.
{{pn|17.3|3}}scribit ad me frater omnia sua per te unum sustineri. quid te aut horter quod facis, aut agam gratias quod non exspectas? tantum velim fortuna det nobis potestatem ut incolumes amore nostro perfruamur. tuas litteras semper maxime exspecto; in quibus cave vereare ne aut diligentia tua mihi molesta aut veritas acerba sit. data pr. Nonas Sept.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae media m. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|18.1|1}}exspectationem nobis non parvam attuleras cum scripseras Varronem tibi pro amicitia confirmasse causam nostram Pompeium certe suscepturum et, simul a Caesare ei litterae quas exspectaret remissae essent, actorem etiam daturum. Vtrum id nihil fuit, an adversatae sunt Caesaris litterae, an est aliquid in spe? etiam illud scripseras eundem 'secundum comitia' dixisse.
{{pn|18.2|2}}fac, si vides quantis in malis iaceam et si putas esse humanitatis tuae, me fac de tota causa nostra certiorem. nam Quintus frater, homo mirus, qui me tam valde amat, omnia mittit spei plena metuens, credo, defectionem animi mei; tuae autem litterae sunt variae; neque enim me desperare vis nec temere sperare. fac, obsecro te, ut omnia quae perspici a te possunt sciamus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xvi K. Oct. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|19.1|1}}quoad eius modi mihi litterae a vobis adferebantur ut aliquid ex iis esset exspectandum, spe et cupiditate Thessalonicae retentus sum; postea quam omnis actio huius anni confecta nobis videbatur, in Asiam ire nolui, quod et celebritas mihi odio est et, si fieret aliquid a novis magistratibus, abesse longe nolebam. itaque in Epirum ad te statui me conferre, non quo mea interesset loci natura qui lucem omnino fugerem, sed et (ad) salutem libentissime ex tuo portu proficiscar et, si ea praecisa erit, nusquam facilius hanc miserrimam vitam vel sustentabo vel, quod multo est melius, abiecero. (ero) cum paucis, multitudinem dimittam.
{{pn|19.2|2}}me tuae litterae numquam in tantam spem adduxerunt quantam aliorum; ac tamen mea spes etiam tenuior semper fuit quam tuae litterae. sed tamen quoniam coeptum est agi, quoquo modo coeptum est et quacumque de causa, non deseram neque optimi atque unici fratris miseras ac luctuosas preces nec Sesti ceterorumque promissa nec spem aerumnosissimae mulieris Terentiae nec miserrimae [mulieris] Tulliolae obsecrationem et fidelis litteras tuas. mihi Epirus aut iter ad salutem dabit aut quod scripsi supra.
{{pn|19.3|3}}te oro et obsecro, T. Pomponi, si me omnibus amplissimis, carissimis iucundissimisque rebus perfidia hominum spoliatum, si me a meis consiliariis proditum et proiectum vides, si intellegis me coactum ut ipse me et meos perderem, ut me tua misericordia iuves et Quintum fratrem qui potest esse salvus sustentes, Terentiam liberosque meos tueare, me, si putas te istic visurum, exspectes, si minus, invisas, si potes, mihique ex agro tuo tantum adsignes quantum meo corpore occupari potest, et pueros ad me cum litteris quam primum et quam saepissime mittas. data xvi Kal. Octobris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv Non. Oct. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO S. D. Q. CAECILIO Q. N POMPONIANO ATTICO}}
{{pn|20.1|1}}quod quidem ita esse et avunculum tuum functum esse officio vehementissime probo, gaudere me tum dicam, si mihi hoc verbo licebit uti. me miserum! quam omnia essent ex sententia, si nobis animus, si consilium, si fides eorum quibus credidimus non defuisset! quae conligere nolo ne augeam maerorem; sed tibi venire in mentem certo scio quae vita esset nostra, quae suavitas, quae dignitas. ad quae reciperanda, per fortunas! incumbe, ut facis, diemque natalem reditus mei cura ut in tuis aedibus amoenissimis agam tecum et cum meis. ego huic spei et exspectationi quae nobis proponitur maxime tamen volui praestolari apud te in Epiro, sed ita ad me scribitur ut putem esse commodius nos eisdem in locis esse.
{{pn|20.2|2}}de domo et Curionis oratione ut scribis ita est. in universa salute, si ea modo nobis restituetur, inerunt omnia; ex quibus nihil malo quam domum. sed tibi nihil mando nominatim, totum me tuo amori fideique commendo. quod te in tanta hereditate ab omni occupatione expedisti, valde mihi gratum est. quod facultates tuas ad meam salutem polliceris ut omnibus rebus a te praeter ceteros iuver, id quantum sit praesidium video intellegoque te multas partis meae salutis et suscipere et posse sustinere neque ut ita facias rogandum esse. {{pn|20.3|3}}quod me vetas quicquam suspicari accidisse ad animum tuum quod secus a me erga te commissum aut praetermissum videretur, geram tibi morem et liberabor ista cura, tibi tamen eo plus debebo quo tua in me humanitas fuerit excelsior quam in te mea. velim quid videas, quid intellegas, quid agatur ad me scribas tuosque omnis ad nostram salutem adhortere. rogatio Sesti neque dignitatis satis habet nec cautionis. nam et nominatim ferri oportet et de bonis diligentius scribi, et id animadvertas velim. data iiii Nonas Octobris Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae v K. Nov. a. 696 (58).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{pn|21.1|1}}triginta dies erant ipsi cum has dabam litteras per quos nullas a vobis acceperam. mihi autem erat in animo iam, ut antea ad te scripsi, ire in Epirum et ibi omnem casum potissimum exspectare. te oro ut, si quid erit quod perspicias quamcumque in partem, quam planissime ad me scribas et meo nomine, ut scribis, litteras quibus putabis opus esse ut des. data v Kal. Novembris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXII.}}}}<br>Scr. partim Thessalonicae partim Dyrrachi vi K. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|22.1|1}}etsi diligenter ad me Quintus frater et Piso quae essent acta scripserant, tamen vellem tua te occupatio non impedisset quo minus, ut consuesti, ad me quid ageretur et quid intellegeres perscriberes. me adhuc Plancius liberalitate sua retinet iam aliquotiens conatum ire in Epirum. spes homini est iniecta non eadem quae mihi posse nos una decedere; quam rem sibi magno honori sperat fore. sed iam, cum adventare milites dicentur, faciendum nobis erit ut ab eo discedamus. quod cum faciemus, ad te statim mittemus, ut scias ubi simus.
{{pn|22.2|2}}Lentulus suo in nos officio, quod et re et promissis et litteris declarat, spem nobis non nullam adfert Pompei voluntatis; saepe enim tu ad me scripsisti eum totum esse in illius potestate. de Metello scripsit ad me frater quantum speraret profectum esse per te. {{pn|22.3|3}}mi Pomponi, pugna ut tecum et cum meis mihi liceat vivere et scribe ad me omnia. premor luctu, desiderio cum omnium rerum (tum meorum) qui mihi me cariores semper fuerunt. cura ut valeas.
{{pn|22.4|4}}ego quod per Thessaliam si irem in Epirum perdiu nihil eram auditurus et quod mei studiosos habeo Dyrrachinos, ad eos perrexi, cum illa superiora Thessalonicae scripsissem. Inde cum ad te me convertam, faciam ut scias, tuque ad me velim omnia quam diligentissime cuicuimodi sunt scribas. ego iam aut rem aut ne spem quidem exspecto. data vi Kal. Decembr. Dyrrachi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi pr. K. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|23.1|1}}A. d. v Kal. Decembr. tris epistulas a te accepi, unam datam a. d. viii Kal. Novembris in qua me hortaris ut forti animo mensem Ianuarium exspectem, eaque quae ad spem putas pertinere de Lentuli studio, de Metelli voluntate, de tota Pompei ratione perscribis. in altera epistula praeter consuetudinem tuam diem non adscribis sed satis significas tempus; lege enim ab octo tribunis pl. promulgata scribis te eas litteras eo ipso die dedisse, id est a. d. iiii Kal. Novembris, et quid putes utilitatis eam promulgationem attulisse perscribis. in quo si iam nostra salus cum hac lege desperata erit, velim pro tuo in me amore hanc inanem meam diligentiam miserabilem potius quam ineptam putes, sin est aliquid spei, des operam ut maiore diligentia posthac a nostris magistratibus defendamur.
{{pn|23.2|2}}nam ea veterum tribunorum pl. rogatio tria capita habuit; unum de reditu meo scriptum incaute; nihil enim restituitur praeter civitatem et ordinem, quod mihi pro meo casu satis est; sed quae cavenda fuerint et quo modo te non fugit. alterum caput est tralaticium de impunitate, SI QVID CONTRA ALIAS LEGES EIVS LEGIS ERGO FACTVM SIT. Tertium caput, mi Pomponi, quo consilio et a quo sit inculcatum vide. scis enim Clodium sanxisse ut vix aut ut omnino non posset nec per senatum nec per populum infirmari sua lex. sed vides numquam esse observatas sanctiones earum legum; quae abrogarentur. nam si id esset, nulla fere abrogari posset; neque enim ulla est quae non ipsa se saepiat difficultate abrogationis. sed cum lex abrogatur, illud ipsum abrogatur quo modo eam abrogari oporteat.
{{pn|23.3|3}}hoc quom et re vera ita sit et quom semper ita habitum observatumque sit, octo nostri tribuni pl. caput posuerunt hoc: SI QVID IN HAC ROGATIONE SCRIPTVM EST QVOD PER LEGES PLEBISVE SCITA, hoc est quod per legem Clodiam, PROMVLGARE, ABROGARE, DEROGARE, OBROGARE SINE FRAVDE SVA NON LICEAT, NON LICVERIT, QVODVE EI, QVI PROMVLGAVIT, <ABROGAVIT>, DEROGAVIT, <OBROGAVIT>, OB EAM REM POENAE MVLTAEVE SIT, E. H. L. N. R.
{{pn|23.4|4}}atque hoc in illis tribunis pl. non laedebat; lege enim collegi sui non tenebantur. quo maior est suspicio malitiae aliquoius, cum id quod ad ipsos nihil pertinebat erat autem contra me scripserunt, ut novi tribuni pl. si essent timidiores multo magis sibi eo capite utendum putarent. neque id a Clodio praetermissum est; dixit enim in contione a. d. III Nonas Novembris hoc capite designatis tribunis pl. praescriptum esse quid liceret. tamen in lege nulla esse eius modi caput te non fallit, quod si opus esset, omnes in abrogando <uterentur>r;. Vt Ninnium aut ceteros fugerit investiges velim et quis attulerit et qua re octo tribuni pl. ad senatum de me referre non dubitarint, <sive> . . . sive quod observandum illud caput non putabant, eidem in abrogando tam cauti fuerint ut id metuerent soluti cum essent, quod ne iis quidem qui lege tenentur est curandum. id caput sane nolim novos tribunos pl. ferre; sed perferant modo quidlibet; uno capite quo revocabor, modo res conficiatur, ero contentus. iam dudum pudet tam multa scribere; vereor enim ne re iam desperata legas, ut haec mea diligentia miserabilis tibi, aliis inridenda videatur. sed si est aliquid in spe, vide legem quam T. Fadio scripsit Visellius. ea mihi perplacet; nam Sesti nostri quam tu tibi probari scribis mihi non placet.
{{pn|23.5|5}}Tertia est epistula pridie Idus Novembr. data, in qua exponis prudenter et diligenter quae sint quae rem distinere videantur, de Crasso, de Pompeio, de ceteris. qua re oro te ut, si qua spes erit posse studiis bonorum, auctoritate, multitudine comparata rem confici, des operam ut uno impetu perfringantur, in eam rem incumbas ceterosque excites. sin, ut ego perspicio cum tua coniectura tum etiam mea, spei nihil est, oro obtestorque te ut Quintum fratrem ames quem ego miserum misere perdidi neve quid eum patiare gravius consulere de se quam expediat sororis tuae filio, meum Ciceronem quoi nihil misello relinquo praeter invidiam et ignominiam nominis mei tueare quoad poteris, Terentiam, unam omnium aerumnosissimam, sustentes tuis officiis. ego in Epirum proficiscar quom primorum dierum nuntios excepero. tu ad me velim proximis litteris ut se initia dederint perscribas. data pridie Kal. Decembr.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachium Id. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|24.1|1}}antea quom ad me scripsissetis vestro consensu consulum provincias ornatas esse, etsi verebar quorsum id casurum esset, tamen sperabam vos aliquid aliquando vidisse prudentius; postea quam mihi et dictum est et scriptum vehementer consilium vestrum reprehendi, sum graviter commotus, quod illa ipsa spes exigua quae erat videretur esse sublata. nam si tribuni pl. nobis suscensent, quae potest spes esse? ac videntur iure suscensere, cum et expertes consili fuerint ei qui causam nostram susceperant, et vestra concessione omnem vim sui iuris amiserint, praesertim cum ita dicant, se nostra causa voluisse suam potestatem esse de consulibus ornandis non ut eos impedirent sed ut ad nostram causam adiungerent; nunc si consules a nobis alieniores esse velint, posse id libere facere; sin velint nostra causa, nihil posse se invitis. nam quod scribis, ni ita vobis placuisset, illos hoc idem per populum adsecuturos fuisse, invitis tribunis pl. fieri nullo modo potuit. ita vereor ne et studia tribunorum amiserimus et, si studia maneant, vinclum illud adiungendorum consulum amissum sit.
{{pn|24.2|2}}accedit aliud non parvum incommodum quod gravis illa opinio, ut quidem ad nos perferebatur, senatum nihil decernere ante quam de nobis actum esset, amissa est, praesertim in ea causa quae non modo necessaria non fuit sed etiam inusitata ac nova (neque enim umquam arbitror ornatas esse provincias designatorum), ut, cum in hoc illa constantia quae erat mea causa suscepta imminuta sit, nihil iam possit non decerni. Iis ad quos relatum est amicis placuisse non mirum est; erat enim difficile reperire qui contra tanta commoda duorum consulum palam sententiam diceret. fuit omnino difficile non obsequi vel amicissimo homini Lentulo vel Metello qui simultatem humanissime deponeret; sed vereor ne hos tamen tenere potuerimus, tribunos pl. amiserimus. haec res quem ad modum ceciderit et tota res quo loco sit velim ad me scribas et ita ut instituisti. nam ista veritas, etiam si iucunda non est, mihi tamen grata est. data iiii Id. Decembr.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXV.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi m. Dec. a. 696 (58) post iv Id., ante ii K. Ian.<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|25.1|1}}post tuum a me discessum litterae mihi Roma adlatae sunt ex quibus perspicio nobis in hac calamitate tabescendum esse. neque enim (sed bonam in partem accipies) si ulla spes salutis nostrae subesset, tu pro tuo amore in me hoc tempore discessisses. sed ne ingrati aut ne omnia velle nobiscum una interire videamur, hoc omitto; illud abs te peto des operam, id quod mihi adfirmasti, ut te ante Kalendas Ianuarias ubicumque erimus sistas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi m. Ianuario a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|26.1|1}}Litterae mihi a Quinto fratre cum senatus consulto quod de me est factum adlatae sunt. mihi in animo est legum lationem exspectare et, si obtrectabitur, utar auctoritate senatus et potius vita quam patria carebo. tu, quaeso, festina ad nos venire.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi ex. m. Ian. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|27.1|1}}ex tuis litteris et ex re ipsa nos funditus perisse video. te oro ut quibus in rebus tui mei indigebunt nostris miseriis ne desis. ego te, ut scribis, cito videbo.
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. proficiscens in exsilium in. in Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora+|1|}}Cum antea maxime nostra interesse arbitrabar te esse nobiscum, tum vero, ut legi rogationem, intellexi ad iter id quod constitui nihil mihi optatius cadere posse quam ut tu me quam primum consequerere, ut, cum ex Italia profecti essemus, sive per Epirum iter esset faciendum, tuo tuorumque praesidio uteremur, sive aliud quid agendum esset, certum consilium de tua sententia capere possemus. quam ob rem te oro des operam ut me statim consequare; quod eo facilius potes quoniam de provincia Macedonia perlata lex est. pluribus verbis tecum agerem nisi pro me apud te res ipsa loqueretur.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere vi Id. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|2}}itineris nostri causa fuit quod non habebam locum ubi pro meo iure diutius esse possem quam in fundo Siccae, praesertim nondum rogatione correcta, et simul intellegebam ex eo loco, si te haberem, posse me Brundisium referre, sine te autem non esse nobis illas partis tenendas propter Autronium. nunc ut ad te antea scripsi, si ad nos veneris, consilium totius rei capiemus. iter esse molestum scio sed tota calamitas omnis molestias habet. plura scribere non possum; ita sum animo perculso et abiecto. cura ut valeas. data vi Idus Aprilis naribus Luc.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. Itinere circ. Non. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|3}}Vtinam illum diem videam cum tibi agam gratias quod me vivere coegisti! adhuc quidem valde me paenitet. sed te oro ut ad me Vibonem statim venias quo ego multis de causis converti iter meum. sed eo si veneris, de tota itinere ac fuga mea consilium capere potero. si id non feceris, mirabor; sed confido te esse facturum.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere inter Vibonem et Brundisium post ep. 5 Id. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|4}}miseriae nostrae potius velim quam inconstantiae tribuas quod a Vibone quo te arcessebamus subito discessimus. adlata est enim nobis rogatio de pernicie mea; in qua quod correctum esse audieramus erat eius modi ut mihi ultra quingenta milia liceret esse, illuc pervenire non liceret. statim iter Brundisium versus contuli ante diem rogationis, ne et Sicca apud quem eram periret et quod Melitae esse non licebat. nunc tu propera ut nos consequare, si modo recipiemur. adhuc invitamur benigne, sed quod superest timemus. me, mi Pomponi, valde paenitet vivere; qua in re apud me tu plurimum valuisti. sed haec coram. fac modo ut venias.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. Thuriis iv Id. Apr., ut videtur, a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|5}}Terentia tibi et saepe et maximas agit gratias. id est mihi gratissimum. ego vivo miserrimus et maximo dolore conficior. ad te quid scribam nescio. si enim es Romae, iam me adsequi non potes; sin es in via, cum eris me adsecutus, coram agemus quae erunt agenda. tantum te oro ut, quoniam me ipsum semper amasti, ut eodem amore sis; ego enim idem sum. inimici mei mea mihi, non me ipsum ademerunt. cura ut valeas. data iiii Idus April. Thuri.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Tarenthmo xiv K. Mai. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|6}}non fuerat mihi dubium quin te Tarenti aut Brundisi visurus essem idque ad multa pertinuit, in eis et ut in Epiro consisteremus et de reliquis rebus tuo consilio uteremur. quoniam id non contigit, erit hoc quoque in magno numero nostrorum malorum. nobis iter est in Asiam, maxime Cyzicum. meos tibi commendo. me vix misereque sustento. data xiiii K. Maias de Tarentino.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. Brundisii pr. K. Mai. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|7.1|1}}Brundisium veni a. d xiiii Kal. Maias. eo die pueri tui mihi a te litteras reddiderunt, et alii pueri post diem tertium eius diei alias litteras attulerunt. quod me rogas et hortaris ut apud te in Epiro sim, voluntas tua mihi valde grata est et minime nova. esset consilium mihi quidem optatum, si liceret ibi omne tempus consumere; odi enim celebritatem, fugio homines, lucem aspicere vix possum, esset mihi ista solitudo, praesertim tam familiari in loco, non amara; sed itineris causa ut deverterer, primum est devium, deinde ab Autronio et ceteris quadridui, deinde sine te. nam castellum munitum habitanti mihi prodesset, transeunti non est necessarium. quod si auderem, Athenas peterem. sane ita cadebat ut vellem. nunc et nostri hostes ibi sunt et te non habemus et veremur ne interpretentur illud quoque oppidum ab Italia non satis abesse nec scribis quam ad diem te exspectemus.
{{pn|7.2|2}}quod me ad vitam vocas, unum efficis ut a me manus abstineam, alterum non potes ut me non nostri consili vitaeque paeniteat. quid enim est quod me retineat, praesertim si spes ea non est quae nos proficiscentis prosequebatur? non faciam ut enumerem miserias omnis in quas incidi per summam iniuriam et scelus non tam inimicorum meorum quam invidorum, ne et meum maerorem exagitem et te in eundem luctum vocem; hoc adfirmo, neminem umquam tanta calamitate esse adfectum, nemini mortem magis optandam fuisse. quoius oppetendae tempus honestissimum praetermissum est; reliqua tempora sunt non tam ad medicinam quam ad finem doloris.
{{pn|7.3|3}}de re publica video te conligere omnia quae putes aliquam spem mihi posse adferre mutandarum rerum. quae quamquam exigua sunt, tamen, quoniam placet, exspectemus. tu nihilo minus si properans nos consequere; nam aut accedemus in Epirum aut tarde per Candaviam ibimus. dubitationem autem de Epiro non inconstantia nostra adferebat sed quod de fratre ubi eum visuri essemus nesciebamus; quem quidem ego nec (quo) modo visurus nec ut dimissurus sim scio. id est maximum et miserrimum mearum omnium miseriarum. ego et saepius ad te et plura scriberem, nisi mihi dolor meus cum omnis partis mentis tum maxime huius generis facultatem ademisset. videre te cupio. cura ut valeas. data pr. Kal. Mat Brundisi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv K. Iun. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|8.1|1}}Brundisio proficiscens scripseram ad te quas ob causas in Epirum non essemus profecti, quod et Achaia prope esset plena audacissimorum inimicorum et exitus difficilis haberet cum inde proficisceremur. accessit cum Dyrrachi essemus ut duo nuntii adferrentur, unus classe fratrem Epheso Athenas, alter pedibus per Macedoniam venire. itaque illi obviam misimus Athenas ut inde Thessalonicam veniret. ipsi processimus et Thessalonicam a. d. x Kal. Iunias venimus neque de illius itinere quicquam certi habebamus nisi eum ab Epheso ante aliquanto profectum.
{{pn|8.2|2}}nunc istic quid agatur magno opere timeo; quamquam tu altera epistula scribis Idibus Maus audiri fore ut acrius postularetur, altera iam esse mitiora. sed haec est pridie data quam illa, quo conturber magis. itaque cum meus me maeror cotidianus lacerat et conficit tum vero haec addita cura vix mihi vitam reliquam facit. sed et navigatio perdifficilis fuit et ille incertus ubi ego essem fortasse alium cursum petivit. nam Phaetho libertus eum non vidit. vento reiectus ab Ilio in Macedoniam Pellae mihi praesto fuit. reliqua quam mihi timenda sint video nec quid scribam habeo et omnia timeo, nec tam miserum est quicquam quod non in nostram fortunam cadere videatur. equidem adhuc miser in maximis meis aerumnis et luctibus hoc metu adiecto maneo Thessalonicae suspensus nec audeo quicquam.
{{pn|8.3|3}}nunc ad ea quae scripsisti. Tryphonem Caecilium non vidi. sermonem tuum et Pompei cognovi ex tuis litteris. Motuit in re publica non tantum ego impendere video quantum tu aut vides aut ad me consolandum adfers. Tigrane enim neglecto sublata sunt omnia. Varroni me iubes agere gratias. faciam; item Hypsaeo. quod suades ne longius discedamus dum acta mensis Mai ad nos perferantur, puto me ita esse facturum sed ubi nondum statui; atque ita perturbato sum animo de Quinto ut nihil queam statuere sed tamen statim te faciam certiorem.
{{pn|8.4|4}}ex epistularum mearum inconstantia puto te mentis meae motum videre qui, etsi incredibili et singulari calamitate adflictus sum, tamen non tam est ex miseria quam ex culpae nostrae recordatione commotus. cuius enim scelere impulsi ac proditi simus iam profecto vides, atque utinam iam ante vidisses neque totum animum tuum maerori mecum simul dedisses! qua re cum me adflictum et confectum luctu audies, existimato me stultitiae meae poenam ferre gravius quam eventi, quod ei crediderim quem esse nefarium non putarim. me et meorum malorum memoria et metus de fratre in scribendo impedit. tu ista omnia vide et guberna Terentia tibi maximas gratias agit. Litterarum exemplum quas ad Pompeium scripsi misi tibi. data iiii Kal. Iunias Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae 1d. Iun. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|9.1|1}}{{pn|9.1|1}}Quintus frater cum ex Asia discessisset ante Kal. Maias et Athenas venisset Idibus, valde fuit ei properandum, ne quid absens acciperet calamitatis, si quis forte fuisset qui contentus nostris malis non esset. itaque eum malui properare Romam quam ad me venire et simul (dicam enim quod verum est, ex quo magnitudinem miseriarum mearum perspicere possis) animum inducere non potui ut aut illum amantissimum mei mollissimo animo tanto in maerore aspicerem aut meas miserias luctu adflictus et perditam fortunam illi offerrem aut ab illo aspici paterer. atque etiam illud timebam, quod profecto accidisset, ne a me digredi non posset. versabatur mihi tempus illud ante oculos quom ille aut lictores dimitteret aut vi avelleretur ex complexu meo. huius acerbitatis eventum altera acerbitate non videndi fratris vitavi. in hunc me casum vos vivendi auctores impulistis.
{{pn|9.2|2}}itaque mei peccati luo poenas. quam quam me tuae litterae sustentant ex quibus quantum tu ipse speres facile perspicio; quae quidem tamen aliquid habebant solaci ante quam eo venisti a Pompeio. 'nunc Hortensium adlice et eius modi viros.' obsecro, mi Pomponi, nondum perspicis quorum opera, quorum insidiis, quorum scelere perierimus? sed tecum haec omnia coram agemus; tantum dico quod scire te puto, nos non inimici sed invidi perdiderunt. nunc si ita sunt quae speras, sustinebimus nos et spe qua iubes nitemur; sin, ut mihi videntur, infirma sunt, quod optimo tempore facere non licuit minus idoneo fiet.
{{pn|9.3|3}}Terentia tibi saepe agit gratias. mihi etiam unum de malis in metu est, fratris miseri negotium; quod si sciam quoius modi sit, sciam quid agendum mihi sit. me etiam nunc istorum beneficiorum et litterarum exspectatio, ut tibi placet, Thessalonicae tenet. si quid erit novi adlatum, sciam de reliquo quid agendum sit. tu si, ut scribis, Kal. Iuniis Roma profectus es, prope diem nos videbis. Litteras quas ad Pompeium scripsi tibi misi. data id. Iun. Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. Thcssalonicae xko K. Qithit. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|10.1|1}}Acta quae essent usque ad a. d. viii Kal. Iunias cognovi ex tuis litteris; reliqua exspectabam, ut tibi placebat, Thessalonicae. quibus adlatis facilius statuere potero ubi sim. nam si erit causa, si quid agetur, si spem videro, aut ibidem opperiar aut me ad te conferam; sin, ut tu scribis, ista evanuerint, aliquid aliud videbimus. omnino adhuc nihil mihi significatis nisi discordiam istorum; quae tamen inter eos de omnibus potius rebus est quam de me. itaque quid ea mihi prosit nescio sed tamen quoad me vos sperare vultis vobis obtemperabo.
{{pn|10.2|2}}nam quod me tam saepe et tam vehementer obiurgas et animo infirmo esse dicis, quaeso, ecquod tantum malum est quod in mea calamitate non sit? ecquis umquam tam ex amplo statu, tam in bona causa, tantis facultatibus ingeni, consili, gratiae, tantis praesidiis bonorum omnium concidit? possum oblivisci qui fuerim, non sentire qui sim, quo caream honore, qua gloria, quibus liberis, quibus fortunis, quo fratre? quem ego, ut novum calamitatis genus attendas, quom pluris facerem quam me ipsum semperque fecissem, vitavi ne viderem, ne aut illius luctum squaloremque aspicerem aut me quem ille florentissimum reliquerat perditum illi adflictumque offerrem. Mitto cetera intolerabilia; etenim fletu impedior. hic utrum tandem sum accusandus quod doleo, an quod commisi ut haec non aut retinerem, quod facile fuisset nisi intra parietes meos de mea pernicie consilia inirentur, aut certe vivus non amitterem?
{{pn|10.3|3}}haec eo scripsi ut potius relevares me, quod facis, quam ut castigatione aut obiurgatione dignum putares, eoque ad te minus multa scribo quod et maerore impedior et quod exspectem istinc magis habeo quam quod ipse scribam. quae si erunt adlata, faciam te consili nostri certiorem. tu, ut adhuc fecisti, quam plurimis de rebus ad me velim scribas, ut prorsus ne quid ignorem. data xiiii Kal. Quintilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv K. Quint. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|11.1|1}}me et tuae litterae et quidam boni nuntii, non optimis tamen auctoribus, et exspectatio vestrarum litterarum et quod tibi ita placuerat adhuc Thessalonicae tenebat. si accepero litteras quas exspecto, si spes erit ea quae rumoribus adferebatur, ad te me conferam; si non erit, faciam te certiorem quid egerim.
{{pn|11.2|2}}tu me, ut facis, opera, consilio, gratia iuva; consolari iam desine, obiurgare vero noli; quod cum facis, ut ego tuum amorem et dolorem desidero! quem ita adfectum mea aerumna esse arbitror ut te ipsum consolari nemo possit. Quintum fratrem optimum humanissimumque sustenta. ad me obsecro te ut omnia certa perscribas. data iiii Kal. Quintilis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xvi Kal. Sext. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|12.1|1}}tu quidem sedulo argumentaris quid sit sperandum et maxime per senatum idemque caput rogationis proponi scribis qua re in senatu dici nihil liceat. itaque siletur. hic tu me accusas quod me adflictem, cum ita sim adflictus ut nemo umquam, quod tute intellegis. spem ostendis secundum comitia. quae ista est eodem tribuno pl. et inimico consule designato? percussisti autem me etiam de oratione prolata.
{{pn|12.2|2}}cui vulneri ut scribis medere, si quid potes. scripsi equidem olim ei iratus, quod ille prior scripserat, sed ita compresseram ut numquam emanaturam putarem. quo modo exciderit nescio. sed quia numquam accidit ut cum eo verbo uno concertarem et quia scripta mihi videtur neglegentius quam ceterae, puto posse probari non esse meam. id, si putas me posse sanari, cures velim; sin plane perii, minus laboro.
{{pn|12.3|3}}ego etiam nunc eodem in loco iaceo sine sermone ullo, sine cogitatione ulla. scilicet tibi, ut scribis, significaram ut ad me venires; Üsi donatam utÜ intellego te istic prodesse, hic ne verbo quidem levare me posse. non queo plura scribere nec est quod scribam; vestra magis exspecto. data xvi Kal. Sextilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae Non. Sext. a. 696 (58). .<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|13.1|1}}quod ad te scripseram me in Epiro futurum, postea quam extenuari spem nostram et evanescere vidi, mutavi consilium nec me Thessalonica commovi, ubi esse statueram quoad aliquid ad me de eo scriberes, quod proximis litteris scripseras fore uti secundum comitia aliquid de nobis in senatu ageretur; id tibi Pompeium dixisse. qua de re quoniam comitia habita sunt tuque nihil ad me scribis, proinde habebo ac si scripsisses nihil esse neque (me) temporis non longinqui spe ductum esse moleste feram. quem autem motum te videre scripseras qui nobis utilis fore videretur, eum nuntiant qui veniunt nullum fore. in tribunis pl. designatis reliqua spes est. quam si exspectaro, non erit quod putes me causae meae, voluntati meorum defuisse.
{{pn|13.2|2}}quod me saepe accusas cur hunc meum casum tam graviter feram, debes ignoscere, cum ita me adflictum videas ut neminem umquam nec videris nec audieris. nam quod scribis te audire me etiam mentis errore ex dolore adfici, mihi vero mens integra est. atque utinam tam in periculo fuisset! cum ego iis quibus meam salutem carissimam esse arbitrabar inimicissimis crudelissimisque usus sum; qui, ut me paulum inclinari timore viderunt, sic impulerunt ut omni suo scelere et perfidia abuterentur ad exitium meum. nunc quoniam est Cyzicum nobis eundum, quo rarius ad me litterae perferentur, hoc velim diligentius omnia quae putaris me scire opus esse perscribas. Quintum fratrem meum fac diligas; quem ego miser si incolumem relinquo, non me totum perisse arbitrabor. data Nonis Sextilibus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae x K. Sext. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|14.1|1}}ex tuis litteris plenus sum exspectatione de Pompeio quidnam de nobis velit aut ostendat. comitia enim credo esse habita; quibus absolutis scribis illi placuisse agi de nobis. si tibi stultus esse videor qui sperem, facio tuo iussu, etsi scio te me iis epistulis potius et meas spes solitum esse remorari. nunc velim mihi plane perscribas quid videas. scio nos nostris multis peccatis in hanc aerumnam incidisse. ea si qui casus aliqua ex parte correxerit, minus moleste feremus nos vixisse et adhuc vivere.
{{pn|14.2|2}}ego propter viae celebritatem et cotidianam exspectationem rerum novarum non commovi me adhuc Thessalonica. sed iam extrudimur non a Plancio (nam is quidem retinet) verum ab ipso loco minime apposito ad tolerandam in tanto luctu calamitatem. in Epirum ideo, ut scripseram, non veni, quod subito mihi universi nuntii venerant et litterae qua re nihil esset necesse quam proxime Italiam esse. hinc, si aliquid a comitiis audierimus, nos in Asiam convertemus; neque adhuc stabat quo potissimum sed scies. data xii Sextilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xiv K. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|15.1|1}}accepi Idibus Sextilibus quattuor epistulas a te missas, unam qua me obiurgas et rogas ut sim firmior, alteram qua Crassi libertum ais tibi de mea sollicitudine macieque narrasse, tertiam qua demonstras acta in senatu, quartam de eo quod a Varrone scribis tibi esse confirmatum de voluntate Pompei.
{{pn|15.2|2}}ad primam tibi hoc scribo, me ita dolere ut non modo a mente non deserar sed id ipsum doleam, me tam firma mente ubi utar et quibuscum non habere. nam si tu me uno non sine maerore cares, quid me censes qui et te et omnibus? et si tu incolumis me requiris, quo modo a me ipsam incolumitatem desiderari putas? nolo commembrare quibus rebus sim spoliatus, non solum quia non ignoras sed etiam ne rescindam ipse dolorem meum; hoc confirmo neque tantis bonis esse privatum quemquam neque in tantas miserias incidisse. dies autem non modo non levat luctum hunc sed etiam auget. nam ceteri dolores mitigantur vetustate, hic non potest non et sensu praesentis miseriae et recordatione praeteritae vitae cotidie augeri. desidero enim non mea solum neque meos sed me ipsum. quid enim sum? sed non faciam ut aut tuum animum angam querelis aut meis vulneribus saepius manus adferam. nam quod purgas eos quos ego mihi scripsi invidisse et in eis Catonem, ego vero tantum illum puto ab isto scelere afuisse ut maxime doleam plus apud me simulationem aliorum quam istius fidem valuisse. ceteros quod purgas, debent mihi probati esse, tibi si sunt. sed haec sero agimus.
{{pn|15.3|3}}Crassi libertum nihil puto sincere locutum. in senatu rem probe scribis actam. sed quid Curio? an illam orationem non legit? quae unde sit prolata nescio. sed Axius eiusdem diei scribens ad me acta non ita laudat Curionem. at potest ille aliquid praetermittere, tu, nisi quod erat, profecto non scripsisti. Varronis sermo facit exspectationem Caesaris. atque utinam ipse Varro incumbat in causam! quod profecto cum sua sponte tum te instante faciet.
{{pn|15.4|4}}ego si me aliquando vestri et patriae compotem fortuna fecerit, certe efficiam ut maxime laetere unus ex omnibus amicis meaque officia et studia quae parum antea luxerunt (fatendum est enim) sic exsequar ut me aeque tibi ac fratri et liberis nostris restitutum putes. si quid in te peccavi ac potius quoniam peccavi ignosce; in me enim ipsum peccavi vehementius. neque haec eo scribo quo te non meo casu maximo dolore esse adfectum sciam, sed profecto, si quantum me amas et amasti tantum amare deberes ac debuisses, numquam esses passus me quo tu abundabas egere consilio nec esses passus mihi persuaderi utile nobis esse legem de collegiis perferri. sed tu tantum lacrimas praebuisti dolori meo, quod erat amoris, tam quam ipse ego; quod meritis meis perfectum potuit, ut dies et noctes quid mihi faciendum esset cogitares, id abs te meo non tuo scelere praetermissum est. quod si non modo tu sed quisquam fuisset qui me Pompei minus liberali responso perterritum a turpissimo consilio revocaret, quod unus tu facere maxime potuisti, (aut occubuissem honeste) aut victores hodie viveremus. hic mihi ignosces; me enim ipsum multo magis accuso, deinde te quasi me alterum et simul meae culpae socium quaero. ac si restituor, etiam minus videbimur deliquisse abs teque certe quoniam nullo nostro tuo ipsius beneficio diligemur.
{{pn|15.5|5}}quod te cum Culleone scribis de privilegio locutum, est aliquid sed multo est melius abrogari. si enim nemo impediet, sic est firmius; sin erit qui ferri non sinat, idem senatus consulto intercedet. nec quicquam aliud opus est [quam] abrogari; nam prior lex nos nihil laedebat. quam si ut est promulgata laudare voluissemus aut ut erat neglegenda neglegere, nocere omnino nobis non potuisset. hic mihi primum meum consilium defuit sed etiam obfuit Caeci, caeci inquam fuimus in vestitu mutando, in populo rogando, quod nisi nominatim mecum agi coeptum esset fieri perniciosum fuit. sed pergo praeterita verum tamen ob hanc causam ut, si quid agetur, legem illam in qua popularia multa sunt ne tangatis.
{{pn|15.6|6}}verum est stultum me praecipere quid agatis aut quo modo. Vtinam modo agatur aliquid! in quo ipso multa occultant tuae litterae, credo, ne vehementius desperatione perturber. quid enim vides agi posse aut quo modo? per senatumne? at tute scripsisti ad me quoddam caput legis Clodium in curiae poste fixisse, NE REFERRI NEVE DICI LICERET. Quo modo igitur Domitius se dixit relaturum? quo modo autem iis quos tu scribis et de re dicentibus et ut referretur postulantibus Clodius tacuit? ac si per populum, poteritne nisi de omnium tribunorum pl. sententia? quid de bonis? quid de domo? poteritne restitui? aut si non poterit, egomet quo modo potero? haec nisi vides expediri, quam in spem me vocas? sin autem spei nihil est, quae est mihi vita? itaque exspecto Thessalonicae acta Kal. Sext., ex quibus statuam in tuosne agros confugiam, ut neque videam homines quos nolim et te, ut scribis, videam et propius sim si quid agatur, idque intellexi cum tibi tum Quinto fratri placere, an abeam Cyzicum.
{{pn|15.7|7}}nunc, Pomponi, quoniam nihil impertisti tuae prudentiae ad salutem meam, quod aut in me ipso satis esse consili decreras aut te nihil plus mihi debere quam ut praesto esses, quoniamque ego proditus, inductus, coniectus in fraudem omnia mea praesidia neglexi, totam Italiam iam erectam ad me defendendum destitui et reliqui, me, meos meis tradidi inimicis inspectante et tacente te qui, si non plus ingenio valebas quam ego, certe timebas minus, si potes, erige adflictos et in eo nos iuva; sin omnia sunt obstructa, id ipsum fac ut sciamus et nos aliquando aut obiurgare aut communiter consolari desine. ego si tuam fidem accusarem, non me potissimum tuis tectis crederem; meam amentiam accuso quod (me) a te tantum amari quantum ego vellem putavi. quod si fuisset, fidem eandem, curam maiorem adhibuisses, me certe ad exitium praecipitantem retinuisses, istos labores quos nunc in naufragiis nostris suscipis non subisses.
{{pn|15.8|8}}qua re fac ut omnia ad me perspecta et explorata perscribas meque, ut facis, velis esse aliquem, quoniam qui fui et qui esse potui iam esse non possum, et ut his litteris non te sed me ipsum a me esse accusatum putes. si qui erunt quibus putes opus esse meo nomine litteras dari, velim conscribas curesque dandas. data xiiii Kal. Sept.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xii K. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|16}}totum iter mihi incertum facit exspectatio litterarum vestrarum Kal. Sextil. datarum. nam si spes erit, Epirum, si minus, Cyzicum aut aliud aliquid sequemur. tuae quidem litterae quo saepius a me leguntur, hoc spem faciunt mihi minorem; quae cum . . . . lectae sunt, tum id quod attulerunt ad spem infirmant, ut facile appareat te et consolationi servire et veritati. itaque te rogo plane ut ad me quae scies ut erunt, quae putabis ita scribas. data xii Kal.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae pr. Nomm. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|17.1|1}}de Quinto fratre nuntii nobis tristes nec varii venerant ex ante diem (III) non. Iun. usque ad prid. Kal. Sept. eo autem die Livineius L. Reguli libertus ad me a Regulo missus venit. is omnino mentionem nullam factam esse nuntiavit sed fuisse tamen sermonem de C. Clodi filio isque mihi a Q. fratre litteras attulit. sed postridie Sesti pueri venerunt qui a te litteras attulerunt non tam exploratas a timore quam sermo Livinei fuerat. sane sum in meo infinito maerore sollicitus et eo magis quod Appi quaestio est.
{{pn|17.2|2}}cetera quae ad me eisdem litteris scribis de nostra spe, intellego esse languidiora quam alii ostendunt. ego autem quoniam non longe ab eo tempore absumus in quo res diiudicabitur, aut ad te conferam me aut etiam nunc circum haec loca commorabor.
{{pn|17.3|3}}scribit ad me frater omnia sua per te unum sustineri. quid te aut horter quod facis, aut agam gratias quod non exspectas? tantum velim fortuna det nobis potestatem ut incolumes amore nostro perfruamur. tuas litteras semper maxime exspecto; in quibus cave vereare ne aut diligentia tua mihi molesta aut veritas acerba sit. data pr. Nonas Sept.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae media m. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|18.1|1}}exspectationem nobis non parvam attuleras cum scripseras Varronem tibi pro amicitia confirmasse causam nostram Pompeium certe suscepturum et, simul a Caesare ei litterae quas exspectaret remissae essent, actorem etiam daturum. Vtrum id nihil fuit, an adversatae sunt Caesaris litterae, an est aliquid in spe? etiam illud scripseras eundem 'secundum comitia' dixisse.
{{pn|18.2|2}}fac, si vides quantis in malis iaceam et si putas esse humanitatis tuae, me fac de tota causa nostra certiorem. nam Quintus frater, homo mirus, qui me tam valde amat, omnia mittit spei plena metuens, credo, defectionem animi mei; tuae autem litterae sunt variae; neque enim me desperare vis nec temere sperare. fac, obsecro te, ut omnia quae perspici a te possunt sciamus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xvi K. Oct. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|19.1|1}}quoad eius modi mihi litterae a vobis adferebantur ut aliquid ex iis esset exspectandum, spe et cupiditate Thessalonicae retentus sum; postea quam omnis actio huius anni confecta nobis videbatur, in Asiam ire nolui, quod et celebritas mihi odio est et, si fieret aliquid a novis magistratibus, abesse longe nolebam. itaque in Epirum ad te statui me conferre, non quo mea interesset loci natura qui lucem omnino fugerem, sed et (ad) salutem libentissime ex tuo portu proficiscar et, si ea praecisa erit, nusquam facilius hanc miserrimam vitam vel sustentabo vel, quod multo est melius, abiecero. (ero) cum paucis, multitudinem dimittam.
{{pn|19.2|2}}me tuae litterae numquam in tantam spem adduxerunt quantam aliorum; ac tamen mea spes etiam tenuior semper fuit quam tuae litterae. sed tamen quoniam coeptum est agi, quoquo modo coeptum est et quacumque de causa, non deseram neque optimi atque unici fratris miseras ac luctuosas preces nec Sesti ceterorumque promissa nec spem aerumnosissimae mulieris Terentiae nec miserrimae [mulieris] Tulliolae obsecrationem et fidelis litteras tuas. mihi Epirus aut iter ad salutem dabit aut quod scripsi supra.
{{pn|19.3|3}}te oro et obsecro, T. Pomponi, si me omnibus amplissimis, carissimis iucundissimisque rebus perfidia hominum spoliatum, si me a meis consiliariis proditum et proiectum vides, si intellegis me coactum ut ipse me et meos perderem, ut me tua misericordia iuves et Quintum fratrem qui potest esse salvus sustentes, Terentiam liberosque meos tueare, me, si putas te istic visurum, exspectes, si minus, invisas, si potes, mihique ex agro tuo tantum adsignes quantum meo corpore occupari potest, et pueros ad me cum litteris quam primum et quam saepissime mittas. data xvi Kal. Octobris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv Non. Oct. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO S. D. Q. CAECILIO Q. N POMPONIANO ATTICO}}
{{pn|20.1|1}}quod quidem ita esse et avunculum tuum functum esse officio vehementissime probo, gaudere me tum dicam, si mihi hoc verbo licebit uti. me miserum! quam omnia essent ex sententia, si nobis animus, si consilium, si fides eorum quibus credidimus non defuisset! quae conligere nolo ne augeam maerorem; sed tibi venire in mentem certo scio quae vita esset nostra, quae suavitas, quae dignitas. ad quae reciperanda, per fortunas! incumbe, ut facis, diemque natalem reditus mei cura ut in tuis aedibus amoenissimis agam tecum et cum meis. ego huic spei et exspectationi quae nobis proponitur maxime tamen volui praestolari apud te in Epiro, sed ita ad me scribitur ut putem esse commodius nos eisdem in locis esse.
{{pn|20.2|2}}de domo et Curionis oratione ut scribis ita est. in universa salute, si ea modo nobis restituetur, inerunt omnia; ex quibus nihil malo quam domum. sed tibi nihil mando nominatim, totum me tuo amori fideique commendo. quod te in tanta hereditate ab omni occupatione expedisti, valde mihi gratum est. quod facultates tuas ad meam salutem polliceris ut omnibus rebus a te praeter ceteros iuver, id quantum sit praesidium video intellegoque te multas partis meae salutis et suscipere et posse sustinere neque ut ita facias rogandum esse. {{pn|20.3|3}}quod me vetas quicquam suspicari accidisse ad animum tuum quod secus a me erga te commissum aut praetermissum videretur, geram tibi morem et liberabor ista cura, tibi tamen eo plus debebo quo tua in me humanitas fuerit excelsior quam in te mea. velim quid videas, quid intellegas, quid agatur ad me scribas tuosque omnis ad nostram salutem adhortere. rogatio Sesti neque dignitatis satis habet nec cautionis. nam et nominatim ferri oportet et de bonis diligentius scribi, et id animadvertas velim. data iiii Nonas Octobris Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae v K. Nov. a. 696 (58).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{ancora|21}}triginta dies erant ipsi cum has dabam litteras per quos nullas a vobis acceperam. mihi autem erat in animo iam, ut antea ad te scripsi, ire in Epirum et ibi omnem casum potissimum exspectare. te oro ut, si quid erit quod perspicias quamcumque in partem, quam planissime ad me scribas et meo nomine, ut scribis, litteras quibus putabis opus esse ut des. data v Kal. Novembris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXII.}}}}<br>Scr. partim Thessalonicae partim Dyrrachi vi K. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|22.1|1}}etsi diligenter ad me Quintus frater et Piso quae essent acta scripserant, tamen vellem tua te occupatio non impedisset quo minus, ut consuesti, ad me quid ageretur et quid intellegeres perscriberes. me adhuc Plancius liberalitate sua retinet iam aliquotiens conatum ire in Epirum. spes homini est iniecta non eadem quae mihi posse nos una decedere; quam rem sibi magno honori sperat fore. sed iam, cum adventare milites dicentur, faciendum nobis erit ut ab eo discedamus. quod cum faciemus, ad te statim mittemus, ut scias ubi simus.
{{pn|22.2|2}}Lentulus suo in nos officio, quod et re et promissis et litteris declarat, spem nobis non nullam adfert Pompei voluntatis; saepe enim tu ad me scripsisti eum totum esse in illius potestate. de Metello scripsit ad me frater quantum speraret profectum esse per te. {{pn|22.3|3}}mi Pomponi, pugna ut tecum et cum meis mihi liceat vivere et scribe ad me omnia. premor luctu, desiderio cum omnium rerum (tum meorum) qui mihi me cariores semper fuerunt. cura ut valeas.
{{pn|22.4|4}}ego quod per Thessaliam si irem in Epirum perdiu nihil eram auditurus et quod mei studiosos habeo Dyrrachinos, ad eos perrexi, cum illa superiora Thessalonicae scripsissem. Inde cum ad te me convertam, faciam ut scias, tuque ad me velim omnia quam diligentissime cuicuimodi sunt scribas. ego iam aut rem aut ne spem quidem exspecto. data vi Kal. Decembr. Dyrrachi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi pr. K. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|23.1|1}}A. d. v Kal. Decembr. tris epistulas a te accepi, unam datam a. d. viii Kal. Novembris in qua me hortaris ut forti animo mensem Ianuarium exspectem, eaque quae ad spem putas pertinere de Lentuli studio, de Metelli voluntate, de tota Pompei ratione perscribis. in altera epistula praeter consuetudinem tuam diem non adscribis sed satis significas tempus; lege enim ab octo tribunis pl. promulgata scribis te eas litteras eo ipso die dedisse, id est a. d. iiii Kal. Novembris, et quid putes utilitatis eam promulgationem attulisse perscribis. in quo si iam nostra salus cum hac lege desperata erit, velim pro tuo in me amore hanc inanem meam diligentiam miserabilem potius quam ineptam putes, sin est aliquid spei, des operam ut maiore diligentia posthac a nostris magistratibus defendamur.
{{pn|23.2|2}}nam ea veterum tribunorum pl. rogatio tria capita habuit; unum de reditu meo scriptum incaute; nihil enim restituitur praeter civitatem et ordinem, quod mihi pro meo casu satis est; sed quae cavenda fuerint et quo modo te non fugit. alterum caput est tralaticium de impunitate, SI QVID CONTRA ALIAS LEGES EIVS LEGIS ERGO FACTVM SIT. Tertium caput, mi Pomponi, quo consilio et a quo sit inculcatum vide. scis enim Clodium sanxisse ut vix aut ut omnino non posset nec per senatum nec per populum infirmari sua lex. sed vides numquam esse observatas sanctiones earum legum; quae abrogarentur. nam si id esset, nulla fere abrogari posset; neque enim ulla est quae non ipsa se saepiat difficultate abrogationis. sed cum lex abrogatur, illud ipsum abrogatur quo modo eam abrogari oporteat.
{{pn|23.3|3}}hoc quom et re vera ita sit et quom semper ita habitum observatumque sit, octo nostri tribuni pl. caput posuerunt hoc: SI QVID IN HAC ROGATIONE SCRIPTVM EST QVOD PER LEGES PLEBISVE SCITA, hoc est quod per legem Clodiam, PROMVLGARE, ABROGARE, DEROGARE, OBROGARE SINE FRAVDE SVA NON LICEAT, NON LICVERIT, QVODVE EI, QVI PROMVLGAVIT, <ABROGAVIT>, DEROGAVIT, <OBROGAVIT>, OB EAM REM POENAE MVLTAEVE SIT, E. H. L. N. R.
{{pn|23.4|4}}atque hoc in illis tribunis pl. non laedebat; lege enim collegi sui non tenebantur. quo maior est suspicio malitiae aliquoius, cum id quod ad ipsos nihil pertinebat erat autem contra me scripserunt, ut novi tribuni pl. si essent timidiores multo magis sibi eo capite utendum putarent. neque id a Clodio praetermissum est; dixit enim in contione a. d. III Nonas Novembris hoc capite designatis tribunis pl. praescriptum esse quid liceret. tamen in lege nulla esse eius modi caput te non fallit, quod si opus esset, omnes in abrogando <uterentur>r;. Vt Ninnium aut ceteros fugerit investiges velim et quis attulerit et qua re octo tribuni pl. ad senatum de me referre non dubitarint, <sive> . . . sive quod observandum illud caput non putabant, eidem in abrogando tam cauti fuerint ut id metuerent soluti cum essent, quod ne iis quidem qui lege tenentur est curandum. id caput sane nolim novos tribunos pl. ferre; sed perferant modo quidlibet; uno capite quo revocabor, modo res conficiatur, ero contentus. iam dudum pudet tam multa scribere; vereor enim ne re iam desperata legas, ut haec mea diligentia miserabilis tibi, aliis inridenda videatur. sed si est aliquid in spe, vide legem quam T. Fadio scripsit Visellius. ea mihi perplacet; nam Sesti nostri quam tu tibi probari scribis mihi non placet.
{{pn|23.5|5}}Tertia est epistula pridie Idus Novembr. data, in qua exponis prudenter et diligenter quae sint quae rem distinere videantur, de Crasso, de Pompeio, de ceteris. qua re oro te ut, si qua spes erit posse studiis bonorum, auctoritate, multitudine comparata rem confici, des operam ut uno impetu perfringantur, in eam rem incumbas ceterosque excites. sin, ut ego perspicio cum tua coniectura tum etiam mea, spei nihil est, oro obtestorque te ut Quintum fratrem ames quem ego miserum misere perdidi neve quid eum patiare gravius consulere de se quam expediat sororis tuae filio, meum Ciceronem quoi nihil misello relinquo praeter invidiam et ignominiam nominis mei tueare quoad poteris, Terentiam, unam omnium aerumnosissimam, sustentes tuis officiis. ego in Epirum proficiscar quom primorum dierum nuntios excepero. tu ad me velim proximis litteris ut se initia dederint perscribas. data pridie Kal. Decembr.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachium Id. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|24.1|1}}antea quom ad me scripsissetis vestro consensu consulum provincias ornatas esse, etsi verebar quorsum id casurum esset, tamen sperabam vos aliquid aliquando vidisse prudentius; postea quam mihi et dictum est et scriptum vehementer consilium vestrum reprehendi, sum graviter commotus, quod illa ipsa spes exigua quae erat videretur esse sublata. nam si tribuni pl. nobis suscensent, quae potest spes esse? ac videntur iure suscensere, cum et expertes consili fuerint ei qui causam nostram susceperant, et vestra concessione omnem vim sui iuris amiserint, praesertim cum ita dicant, se nostra causa voluisse suam potestatem esse de consulibus ornandis non ut eos impedirent sed ut ad nostram causam adiungerent; nunc si consules a nobis alieniores esse velint, posse id libere facere; sin velint nostra causa, nihil posse se invitis. nam quod scribis, ni ita vobis placuisset, illos hoc idem per populum adsecuturos fuisse, invitis tribunis pl. fieri nullo modo potuit. ita vereor ne et studia tribunorum amiserimus et, si studia maneant, vinclum illud adiungendorum consulum amissum sit.
{{pn|24.2|2}}accedit aliud non parvum incommodum quod gravis illa opinio, ut quidem ad nos perferebatur, senatum nihil decernere ante quam de nobis actum esset, amissa est, praesertim in ea causa quae non modo necessaria non fuit sed etiam inusitata ac nova (neque enim umquam arbitror ornatas esse provincias designatorum), ut, cum in hoc illa constantia quae erat mea causa suscepta imminuta sit, nihil iam possit non decerni. Iis ad quos relatum est amicis placuisse non mirum est; erat enim difficile reperire qui contra tanta commoda duorum consulum palam sententiam diceret. fuit omnino difficile non obsequi vel amicissimo homini Lentulo vel Metello qui simultatem humanissime deponeret; sed vereor ne hos tamen tenere potuerimus, tribunos pl. amiserimus. haec res quem ad modum ceciderit et tota res quo loco sit velim ad me scribas et ita ut instituisti. nam ista veritas, etiam si iucunda non est, mihi tamen grata est. data iiii Id. Decembr.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXV.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi m. Dec. a. 696 (58) post iv Id., ante ii K. Ian.<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|25}}post tuum a me discessum litterae mihi Roma adlatae sunt ex quibus perspicio nobis in hac calamitate tabescendum esse. neque enim (sed bonam in partem accipies) si ulla spes salutis nostrae subesset, tu pro tuo amore in me hoc tempore discessisses. sed ne ingrati aut ne omnia velle nobiscum una interire videamur, hoc omitto; illud abs te peto des operam, id quod mihi adfirmasti, ut te ante Kalendas Ianuarias ubicumque erimus sistas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi m. Ianuario a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|26}}Litterae mihi a Quinto fratre cum senatus consulto quod de me est factum adlatae sunt. mihi in animo est legum lationem exspectare et, si obtrectabitur, utar auctoritate senatus et potius vita quam patria carebo. tu, quaeso, festina ad nos venire.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi ex. m. Ian. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|27}}ex tuis litteris et ex re ipsa nos funditus perisse video. te oro ut quibus in rebus tui mei indigebunt nostris miseriis ne desis. ego te, ut scribis, cito videbo.
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. proficiscens in exsilium in. in Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora+|1|}}Cum antea maxime nostra interesse arbitrabar te esse nobiscum, tum vero, ut legi rogationem, intellexi ad iter id quod constitui nihil mihi optatius cadere posse quam ut tu me quam primum consequerere, ut, cum ex Italia profecti essemus, sive per Epirum iter esset faciendum, tuo tuorumque praesidio uteremur, sive aliud quid agendum esset, certum consilium de tua sententia capere possemus. quam ob rem te oro des operam ut me statim consequare; quod eo facilius potes quoniam de provincia Macedonia perlata lex est. pluribus verbis tecum agerem nisi pro me apud te res ipsa loqueretur.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere vi Id. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|2}}itineris nostri causa fuit quod non habebam locum ubi pro meo iure diutius esse possem quam in fundo Siccae, praesertim nondum rogatione correcta, et simul intellegebam ex eo loco, si te haberem, posse me Brundisium referre, sine te autem non esse nobis illas partis tenendas propter Autronium. nunc ut ad te antea scripsi, si ad nos veneris, consilium totius rei capiemus. iter esse molestum scio sed tota calamitas omnis molestias habet. plura scribere non possum; ita sum animo perculso et abiecto. cura ut valeas. data vi Idus Aprilis naribus Luc.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. Itinere circ. Non. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|3}}Vtinam illum diem videam cum tibi agam gratias quod me vivere coegisti! adhuc quidem valde me paenitet. sed te oro ut ad me Vibonem statim venias quo ego multis de causis converti iter meum. sed eo si veneris, de tota itinere ac fuga mea consilium capere potero. si id non feceris, mirabor; sed confido te esse facturum.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere inter Vibonem et Brundisium post ep. 5 Id. Apr. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|4}}miseriae nostrae potius velim quam inconstantiae tribuas quod a Vibone quo te arcessebamus subito discessimus. adlata est enim nobis rogatio de pernicie mea; in qua quod correctum esse audieramus erat eius modi ut mihi ultra quingenta milia liceret esse, illuc pervenire non liceret. statim iter Brundisium versus contuli ante diem rogationis, ne et Sicca apud quem eram periret et quod Melitae esse non licebat. nunc tu propera ut nos consequare, si modo recipiemur. adhuc invitamur benigne, sed quod superest timemus. me, mi Pomponi, valde paenitet vivere; qua in re apud me tu plurimum valuisti. sed haec coram. fac modo ut venias.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. Thuriis iv Id. Apr., ut videtur, a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|5}}Terentia tibi et saepe et maximas agit gratias. id est mihi gratissimum. ego vivo miserrimus et maximo dolore conficior. ad te quid scribam nescio. si enim es Romae, iam me adsequi non potes; sin es in via, cum eris me adsecutus, coram agemus quae erunt agenda. tantum te oro ut, quoniam me ipsum semper amasti, ut eodem amore sis; ego enim idem sum. inimici mei mea mihi, non me ipsum ademerunt. cura ut valeas. data iiii Idus April. Thuri.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Tarenthmo xiv K. Mai. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|6}}non fuerat mihi dubium quin te Tarenti aut Brundisi visurus essem idque ad multa pertinuit, in eis et ut in Epiro consisteremus et de reliquis rebus tuo consilio uteremur. quoniam id non contigit, erit hoc quoque in magno numero nostrorum malorum. nobis iter est in Asiam, maxime Cyzicum. meos tibi commendo. me vix misereque sustento. data xiiii K. Maias de Tarentino.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. Brundisii pr. K. Mai. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|7.1|1}}Brundisium veni a. d xiiii Kal. Maias. eo die pueri tui mihi a te litteras reddiderunt, et alii pueri post diem tertium eius diei alias litteras attulerunt. quod me rogas et hortaris ut apud te in Epiro sim, voluntas tua mihi valde grata est et minime nova. esset consilium mihi quidem optatum, si liceret ibi omne tempus consumere; odi enim celebritatem, fugio homines, lucem aspicere vix possum, esset mihi ista solitudo, praesertim tam familiari in loco, non amara; sed itineris causa ut deverterer, primum est devium, deinde ab Autronio et ceteris quadridui, deinde sine te. nam castellum munitum habitanti mihi prodesset, transeunti non est necessarium. quod si auderem, Athenas peterem. sane ita cadebat ut vellem. nunc et nostri hostes ibi sunt et te non habemus et veremur ne interpretentur illud quoque oppidum ab Italia non satis abesse nec scribis quam ad diem te exspectemus.
{{pn|7.2|2}}quod me ad vitam vocas, unum efficis ut a me manus abstineam, alterum non potes ut me non nostri consili vitaeque paeniteat. quid enim est quod me retineat, praesertim si spes ea non est quae nos proficiscentis prosequebatur? non faciam ut enumerem miserias omnis in quas incidi per summam iniuriam et scelus non tam inimicorum meorum quam invidorum, ne et meum maerorem exagitem et te in eundem luctum vocem; hoc adfirmo, neminem umquam tanta calamitate esse adfectum, nemini mortem magis optandam fuisse. quoius oppetendae tempus honestissimum praetermissum est; reliqua tempora sunt non tam ad medicinam quam ad finem doloris.
{{pn|7.3|3}}de re publica video te conligere omnia quae putes aliquam spem mihi posse adferre mutandarum rerum. quae quamquam exigua sunt, tamen, quoniam placet, exspectemus. tu nihilo minus si properans nos consequere; nam aut accedemus in Epirum aut tarde per Candaviam ibimus. dubitationem autem de Epiro non inconstantia nostra adferebat sed quod de fratre ubi eum visuri essemus nesciebamus; quem quidem ego nec (quo) modo visurus nec ut dimissurus sim scio. id est maximum et miserrimum mearum omnium miseriarum. ego et saepius ad te et plura scriberem, nisi mihi dolor meus cum omnis partis mentis tum maxime huius generis facultatem ademisset. videre te cupio. cura ut valeas. data pr. Kal. Mat Brundisi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv K. Iun. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|8.1|1}}Brundisio proficiscens scripseram ad te quas ob causas in Epirum non essemus profecti, quod et Achaia prope esset plena audacissimorum inimicorum et exitus difficilis haberet cum inde proficisceremur. accessit cum Dyrrachi essemus ut duo nuntii adferrentur, unus classe fratrem Epheso Athenas, alter pedibus per Macedoniam venire. itaque illi obviam misimus Athenas ut inde Thessalonicam veniret. ipsi processimus et Thessalonicam a. d. x Kal. Iunias venimus neque de illius itinere quicquam certi habebamus nisi eum ab Epheso ante aliquanto profectum.
{{pn|8.2|2}}nunc istic quid agatur magno opere timeo; quamquam tu altera epistula scribis Idibus Maus audiri fore ut acrius postularetur, altera iam esse mitiora. sed haec est pridie data quam illa, quo conturber magis. itaque cum meus me maeror cotidianus lacerat et conficit tum vero haec addita cura vix mihi vitam reliquam facit. sed et navigatio perdifficilis fuit et ille incertus ubi ego essem fortasse alium cursum petivit. nam Phaetho libertus eum non vidit. vento reiectus ab Ilio in Macedoniam Pellae mihi praesto fuit. reliqua quam mihi timenda sint video nec quid scribam habeo et omnia timeo, nec tam miserum est quicquam quod non in nostram fortunam cadere videatur. equidem adhuc miser in maximis meis aerumnis et luctibus hoc metu adiecto maneo Thessalonicae suspensus nec audeo quicquam.
{{pn|8.3|3}}nunc ad ea quae scripsisti. Tryphonem Caecilium non vidi. sermonem tuum et Pompei cognovi ex tuis litteris. Motuit in re publica non tantum ego impendere video quantum tu aut vides aut ad me consolandum adfers. Tigrane enim neglecto sublata sunt omnia. Varroni me iubes agere gratias. faciam; item Hypsaeo. quod suades ne longius discedamus dum acta mensis Mai ad nos perferantur, puto me ita esse facturum sed ubi nondum statui; atque ita perturbato sum animo de Quinto ut nihil queam statuere sed tamen statim te faciam certiorem.
{{pn|8.4|4}}ex epistularum mearum inconstantia puto te mentis meae motum videre qui, etsi incredibili et singulari calamitate adflictus sum, tamen non tam est ex miseria quam ex culpae nostrae recordatione commotus. cuius enim scelere impulsi ac proditi simus iam profecto vides, atque utinam iam ante vidisses neque totum animum tuum maerori mecum simul dedisses! qua re cum me adflictum et confectum luctu audies, existimato me stultitiae meae poenam ferre gravius quam eventi, quod ei crediderim quem esse nefarium non putarim. me et meorum malorum memoria et metus de fratre in scribendo impedit. tu ista omnia vide et guberna Terentia tibi maximas gratias agit. Litterarum exemplum quas ad Pompeium scripsi misi tibi. data iiii Kal. Iunias Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae 1d. Iun. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|9.1|1}}{{pn|9.1|1}}Quintus frater cum ex Asia discessisset ante Kal. Maias et Athenas venisset Idibus, valde fuit ei properandum, ne quid absens acciperet calamitatis, si quis forte fuisset qui contentus nostris malis non esset. itaque eum malui properare Romam quam ad me venire et simul (dicam enim quod verum est, ex quo magnitudinem miseriarum mearum perspicere possis) animum inducere non potui ut aut illum amantissimum mei mollissimo animo tanto in maerore aspicerem aut meas miserias luctu adflictus et perditam fortunam illi offerrem aut ab illo aspici paterer. atque etiam illud timebam, quod profecto accidisset, ne a me digredi non posset. versabatur mihi tempus illud ante oculos quom ille aut lictores dimitteret aut vi avelleretur ex complexu meo. huius acerbitatis eventum altera acerbitate non videndi fratris vitavi. in hunc me casum vos vivendi auctores impulistis.
{{pn|9.2|2}}itaque mei peccati luo poenas. quam quam me tuae litterae sustentant ex quibus quantum tu ipse speres facile perspicio; quae quidem tamen aliquid habebant solaci ante quam eo venisti a Pompeio. 'nunc Hortensium adlice et eius modi viros.' obsecro, mi Pomponi, nondum perspicis quorum opera, quorum insidiis, quorum scelere perierimus? sed tecum haec omnia coram agemus; tantum dico quod scire te puto, nos non inimici sed invidi perdiderunt. nunc si ita sunt quae speras, sustinebimus nos et spe qua iubes nitemur; sin, ut mihi videntur, infirma sunt, quod optimo tempore facere non licuit minus idoneo fiet.
{{pn|9.3|3}}Terentia tibi saepe agit gratias. mihi etiam unum de malis in metu est, fratris miseri negotium; quod si sciam quoius modi sit, sciam quid agendum mihi sit. me etiam nunc istorum beneficiorum et litterarum exspectatio, ut tibi placet, Thessalonicae tenet. si quid erit novi adlatum, sciam de reliquo quid agendum sit. tu si, ut scribis, Kal. Iuniis Roma profectus es, prope diem nos videbis. Litteras quas ad Pompeium scripsi tibi misi. data id. Iun. Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. Thcssalonicae xko K. Qithit. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|10.1|1}}Acta quae essent usque ad a. d. viii Kal. Iunias cognovi ex tuis litteris; reliqua exspectabam, ut tibi placebat, Thessalonicae. quibus adlatis facilius statuere potero ubi sim. nam si erit causa, si quid agetur, si spem videro, aut ibidem opperiar aut me ad te conferam; sin, ut tu scribis, ista evanuerint, aliquid aliud videbimus. omnino adhuc nihil mihi significatis nisi discordiam istorum; quae tamen inter eos de omnibus potius rebus est quam de me. itaque quid ea mihi prosit nescio sed tamen quoad me vos sperare vultis vobis obtemperabo.
{{pn|10.2|2}}nam quod me tam saepe et tam vehementer obiurgas et animo infirmo esse dicis, quaeso, ecquod tantum malum est quod in mea calamitate non sit? ecquis umquam tam ex amplo statu, tam in bona causa, tantis facultatibus ingeni, consili, gratiae, tantis praesidiis bonorum omnium concidit? possum oblivisci qui fuerim, non sentire qui sim, quo caream honore, qua gloria, quibus liberis, quibus fortunis, quo fratre? quem ego, ut novum calamitatis genus attendas, quom pluris facerem quam me ipsum semperque fecissem, vitavi ne viderem, ne aut illius luctum squaloremque aspicerem aut me quem ille florentissimum reliquerat perditum illi adflictumque offerrem. Mitto cetera intolerabilia; etenim fletu impedior. hic utrum tandem sum accusandus quod doleo, an quod commisi ut haec non aut retinerem, quod facile fuisset nisi intra parietes meos de mea pernicie consilia inirentur, aut certe vivus non amitterem?
{{pn|10.3|3}}haec eo scripsi ut potius relevares me, quod facis, quam ut castigatione aut obiurgatione dignum putares, eoque ad te minus multa scribo quod et maerore impedior et quod exspectem istinc magis habeo quam quod ipse scribam. quae si erunt adlata, faciam te consili nostri certiorem. tu, ut adhuc fecisti, quam plurimis de rebus ad me velim scribas, ut prorsus ne quid ignorem. data xiiii Kal. Quintilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv K. Quint. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|11.1|1}}me et tuae litterae et quidam boni nuntii, non optimis tamen auctoribus, et exspectatio vestrarum litterarum et quod tibi ita placuerat adhuc Thessalonicae tenebat. si accepero litteras quas exspecto, si spes erit ea quae rumoribus adferebatur, ad te me conferam; si non erit, faciam te certiorem quid egerim.
{{pn|11.2|2}}tu me, ut facis, opera, consilio, gratia iuva; consolari iam desine, obiurgare vero noli; quod cum facis, ut ego tuum amorem et dolorem desidero! quem ita adfectum mea aerumna esse arbitror ut te ipsum consolari nemo possit. Quintum fratrem optimum humanissimumque sustenta. ad me obsecro te ut omnia certa perscribas. data iiii Kal. Quintilis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xvi Kal. Sext. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|12.1|1}}tu quidem sedulo argumentaris quid sit sperandum et maxime per senatum idemque caput rogationis proponi scribis qua re in senatu dici nihil liceat. itaque siletur. hic tu me accusas quod me adflictem, cum ita sim adflictus ut nemo umquam, quod tute intellegis. spem ostendis secundum comitia. quae ista est eodem tribuno pl. et inimico consule designato? percussisti autem me etiam de oratione prolata.
{{pn|12.2|2}}cui vulneri ut scribis medere, si quid potes. scripsi equidem olim ei iratus, quod ille prior scripserat, sed ita compresseram ut numquam emanaturam putarem. quo modo exciderit nescio. sed quia numquam accidit ut cum eo verbo uno concertarem et quia scripta mihi videtur neglegentius quam ceterae, puto posse probari non esse meam. id, si putas me posse sanari, cures velim; sin plane perii, minus laboro.
{{pn|12.3|3}}ego etiam nunc eodem in loco iaceo sine sermone ullo, sine cogitatione ulla. scilicet tibi, ut scribis, significaram ut ad me venires; Üsi donatam utÜ intellego te istic prodesse, hic ne verbo quidem levare me posse. non queo plura scribere nec est quod scribam; vestra magis exspecto. data xvi Kal. Sextilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae Non. Sext. a. 696 (58). .<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|13.1|1}}quod ad te scripseram me in Epiro futurum, postea quam extenuari spem nostram et evanescere vidi, mutavi consilium nec me Thessalonica commovi, ubi esse statueram quoad aliquid ad me de eo scriberes, quod proximis litteris scripseras fore uti secundum comitia aliquid de nobis in senatu ageretur; id tibi Pompeium dixisse. qua de re quoniam comitia habita sunt tuque nihil ad me scribis, proinde habebo ac si scripsisses nihil esse neque (me) temporis non longinqui spe ductum esse moleste feram. quem autem motum te videre scripseras qui nobis utilis fore videretur, eum nuntiant qui veniunt nullum fore. in tribunis pl. designatis reliqua spes est. quam si exspectaro, non erit quod putes me causae meae, voluntati meorum defuisse.
{{pn|13.2|2}}quod me saepe accusas cur hunc meum casum tam graviter feram, debes ignoscere, cum ita me adflictum videas ut neminem umquam nec videris nec audieris. nam quod scribis te audire me etiam mentis errore ex dolore adfici, mihi vero mens integra est. atque utinam tam in periculo fuisset! cum ego iis quibus meam salutem carissimam esse arbitrabar inimicissimis crudelissimisque usus sum; qui, ut me paulum inclinari timore viderunt, sic impulerunt ut omni suo scelere et perfidia abuterentur ad exitium meum. nunc quoniam est Cyzicum nobis eundum, quo rarius ad me litterae perferentur, hoc velim diligentius omnia quae putaris me scire opus esse perscribas. Quintum fratrem meum fac diligas; quem ego miser si incolumem relinquo, non me totum perisse arbitrabor. data Nonis Sextilibus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae x K. Sext. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|14.1|1}}ex tuis litteris plenus sum exspectatione de Pompeio quidnam de nobis velit aut ostendat. comitia enim credo esse habita; quibus absolutis scribis illi placuisse agi de nobis. si tibi stultus esse videor qui sperem, facio tuo iussu, etsi scio te me iis epistulis potius et meas spes solitum esse remorari. nunc velim mihi plane perscribas quid videas. scio nos nostris multis peccatis in hanc aerumnam incidisse. ea si qui casus aliqua ex parte correxerit, minus moleste feremus nos vixisse et adhuc vivere.
{{pn|14.2|2}}ego propter viae celebritatem et cotidianam exspectationem rerum novarum non commovi me adhuc Thessalonica. sed iam extrudimur non a Plancio (nam is quidem retinet) verum ab ipso loco minime apposito ad tolerandam in tanto luctu calamitatem. in Epirum ideo, ut scripseram, non veni, quod subito mihi universi nuntii venerant et litterae qua re nihil esset necesse quam proxime Italiam esse. hinc, si aliquid a comitiis audierimus, nos in Asiam convertemus; neque adhuc stabat quo potissimum sed scies. data xii Sextilis Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xiv K. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|15.1|1}}accepi Idibus Sextilibus quattuor epistulas a te missas, unam qua me obiurgas et rogas ut sim firmior, alteram qua Crassi libertum ais tibi de mea sollicitudine macieque narrasse, tertiam qua demonstras acta in senatu, quartam de eo quod a Varrone scribis tibi esse confirmatum de voluntate Pompei.
{{pn|15.2|2}}ad primam tibi hoc scribo, me ita dolere ut non modo a mente non deserar sed id ipsum doleam, me tam firma mente ubi utar et quibuscum non habere. nam si tu me uno non sine maerore cares, quid me censes qui et te et omnibus? et si tu incolumis me requiris, quo modo a me ipsam incolumitatem desiderari putas? nolo commembrare quibus rebus sim spoliatus, non solum quia non ignoras sed etiam ne rescindam ipse dolorem meum; hoc confirmo neque tantis bonis esse privatum quemquam neque in tantas miserias incidisse. dies autem non modo non levat luctum hunc sed etiam auget. nam ceteri dolores mitigantur vetustate, hic non potest non et sensu praesentis miseriae et recordatione praeteritae vitae cotidie augeri. desidero enim non mea solum neque meos sed me ipsum. quid enim sum? sed non faciam ut aut tuum animum angam querelis aut meis vulneribus saepius manus adferam. nam quod purgas eos quos ego mihi scripsi invidisse et in eis Catonem, ego vero tantum illum puto ab isto scelere afuisse ut maxime doleam plus apud me simulationem aliorum quam istius fidem valuisse. ceteros quod purgas, debent mihi probati esse, tibi si sunt. sed haec sero agimus.
{{pn|15.3|3}}Crassi libertum nihil puto sincere locutum. in senatu rem probe scribis actam. sed quid Curio? an illam orationem non legit? quae unde sit prolata nescio. sed Axius eiusdem diei scribens ad me acta non ita laudat Curionem. at potest ille aliquid praetermittere, tu, nisi quod erat, profecto non scripsisti. Varronis sermo facit exspectationem Caesaris. atque utinam ipse Varro incumbat in causam! quod profecto cum sua sponte tum te instante faciet.
{{pn|15.4|4}}ego si me aliquando vestri et patriae compotem fortuna fecerit, certe efficiam ut maxime laetere unus ex omnibus amicis meaque officia et studia quae parum antea luxerunt (fatendum est enim) sic exsequar ut me aeque tibi ac fratri et liberis nostris restitutum putes. si quid in te peccavi ac potius quoniam peccavi ignosce; in me enim ipsum peccavi vehementius. neque haec eo scribo quo te non meo casu maximo dolore esse adfectum sciam, sed profecto, si quantum me amas et amasti tantum amare deberes ac debuisses, numquam esses passus me quo tu abundabas egere consilio nec esses passus mihi persuaderi utile nobis esse legem de collegiis perferri. sed tu tantum lacrimas praebuisti dolori meo, quod erat amoris, tam quam ipse ego; quod meritis meis perfectum potuit, ut dies et noctes quid mihi faciendum esset cogitares, id abs te meo non tuo scelere praetermissum est. quod si non modo tu sed quisquam fuisset qui me Pompei minus liberali responso perterritum a turpissimo consilio revocaret, quod unus tu facere maxime potuisti, (aut occubuissem honeste) aut victores hodie viveremus. hic mihi ignosces; me enim ipsum multo magis accuso, deinde te quasi me alterum et simul meae culpae socium quaero. ac si restituor, etiam minus videbimur deliquisse abs teque certe quoniam nullo nostro tuo ipsius beneficio diligemur.
{{pn|15.5|5}}quod te cum Culleone scribis de privilegio locutum, est aliquid sed multo est melius abrogari. si enim nemo impediet, sic est firmius; sin erit qui ferri non sinat, idem senatus consulto intercedet. nec quicquam aliud opus est [quam] abrogari; nam prior lex nos nihil laedebat. quam si ut est promulgata laudare voluissemus aut ut erat neglegenda neglegere, nocere omnino nobis non potuisset. hic mihi primum meum consilium defuit sed etiam obfuit Caeci, caeci inquam fuimus in vestitu mutando, in populo rogando, quod nisi nominatim mecum agi coeptum esset fieri perniciosum fuit. sed pergo praeterita verum tamen ob hanc causam ut, si quid agetur, legem illam in qua popularia multa sunt ne tangatis.
{{pn|15.6|6}}verum est stultum me praecipere quid agatis aut quo modo. Vtinam modo agatur aliquid! in quo ipso multa occultant tuae litterae, credo, ne vehementius desperatione perturber. quid enim vides agi posse aut quo modo? per senatumne? at tute scripsisti ad me quoddam caput legis Clodium in curiae poste fixisse, NE REFERRI NEVE DICI LICERET. Quo modo igitur Domitius se dixit relaturum? quo modo autem iis quos tu scribis et de re dicentibus et ut referretur postulantibus Clodius tacuit? ac si per populum, poteritne nisi de omnium tribunorum pl. sententia? quid de bonis? quid de domo? poteritne restitui? aut si non poterit, egomet quo modo potero? haec nisi vides expediri, quam in spem me vocas? sin autem spei nihil est, quae est mihi vita? itaque exspecto Thessalonicae acta Kal. Sext., ex quibus statuam in tuosne agros confugiam, ut neque videam homines quos nolim et te, ut scribis, videam et propius sim si quid agatur, idque intellexi cum tibi tum Quinto fratri placere, an abeam Cyzicum.
{{pn|15.7|7}}nunc, Pomponi, quoniam nihil impertisti tuae prudentiae ad salutem meam, quod aut in me ipso satis esse consili decreras aut te nihil plus mihi debere quam ut praesto esses, quoniamque ego proditus, inductus, coniectus in fraudem omnia mea praesidia neglexi, totam Italiam iam erectam ad me defendendum destitui et reliqui, me, meos meis tradidi inimicis inspectante et tacente te qui, si non plus ingenio valebas quam ego, certe timebas minus, si potes, erige adflictos et in eo nos iuva; sin omnia sunt obstructa, id ipsum fac ut sciamus et nos aliquando aut obiurgare aut communiter consolari desine. ego si tuam fidem accusarem, non me potissimum tuis tectis crederem; meam amentiam accuso quod (me) a te tantum amari quantum ego vellem putavi. quod si fuisset, fidem eandem, curam maiorem adhibuisses, me certe ad exitium praecipitantem retinuisses, istos labores quos nunc in naufragiis nostris suscipis non subisses.
{{pn|15.8|8}}qua re fac ut omnia ad me perspecta et explorata perscribas meque, ut facis, velis esse aliquem, quoniam qui fui et qui esse potui iam esse non possum, et ut his litteris non te sed me ipsum a me esse accusatum putes. si qui erunt quibus putes opus esse meo nomine litteras dari, velim conscribas curesque dandas. data xiiii Kal. Sept.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xii K. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|16}}totum iter mihi incertum facit exspectatio litterarum vestrarum Kal. Sextil. datarum. nam si spes erit, Epirum, si minus, Cyzicum aut aliud aliquid sequemur. tuae quidem litterae quo saepius a me leguntur, hoc spem faciunt mihi minorem; quae cum . . . . lectae sunt, tum id quod attulerunt ad spem infirmant, ut facile appareat te et consolationi servire et veritati. itaque te rogo plane ut ad me quae scies ut erunt, quae putabis ita scribas. data xii Kal.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae pr. Nomm. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|17.1|1}}de Quinto fratre nuntii nobis tristes nec varii venerant ex ante diem (III) non. Iun. usque ad prid. Kal. Sept. eo autem die Livineius L. Reguli libertus ad me a Regulo missus venit. is omnino mentionem nullam factam esse nuntiavit sed fuisse tamen sermonem de C. Clodi filio isque mihi a Q. fratre litteras attulit. sed postridie Sesti pueri venerunt qui a te litteras attulerunt non tam exploratas a timore quam sermo Livinei fuerat. sane sum in meo infinito maerore sollicitus et eo magis quod Appi quaestio est.
{{pn|17.2|2}}cetera quae ad me eisdem litteris scribis de nostra spe, intellego esse languidiora quam alii ostendunt. ego autem quoniam non longe ab eo tempore absumus in quo res diiudicabitur, aut ad te conferam me aut etiam nunc circum haec loca commorabor.
{{pn|17.3|3}}scribit ad me frater omnia sua per te unum sustineri. quid te aut horter quod facis, aut agam gratias quod non exspectas? tantum velim fortuna det nobis potestatem ut incolumes amore nostro perfruamur. tuas litteras semper maxime exspecto; in quibus cave vereare ne aut diligentia tua mihi molesta aut veritas acerba sit. data pr. Nonas Sept.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae media m. Sept. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|18.1|1}}exspectationem nobis non parvam attuleras cum scripseras Varronem tibi pro amicitia confirmasse causam nostram Pompeium certe suscepturum et, simul a Caesare ei litterae quas exspectaret remissae essent, actorem etiam daturum. Vtrum id nihil fuit, an adversatae sunt Caesaris litterae, an est aliquid in spe? etiam illud scripseras eundem 'secundum comitia' dixisse.
{{pn|18.2|2}}fac, si vides quantis in malis iaceam et si putas esse humanitatis tuae, me fac de tota causa nostra certiorem. nam Quintus frater, homo mirus, qui me tam valde amat, omnia mittit spei plena metuens, credo, defectionem animi mei; tuae autem litterae sunt variae; neque enim me desperare vis nec temere sperare. fac, obsecro te, ut omnia quae perspici a te possunt sciamus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae xvi K. Oct. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|19.1|1}}quoad eius modi mihi litterae a vobis adferebantur ut aliquid ex iis esset exspectandum, spe et cupiditate Thessalonicae retentus sum; postea quam omnis actio huius anni confecta nobis videbatur, in Asiam ire nolui, quod et celebritas mihi odio est et, si fieret aliquid a novis magistratibus, abesse longe nolebam. itaque in Epirum ad te statui me conferre, non quo mea interesset loci natura qui lucem omnino fugerem, sed et (ad) salutem libentissime ex tuo portu proficiscar et, si ea praecisa erit, nusquam facilius hanc miserrimam vitam vel sustentabo vel, quod multo est melius, abiecero. (ero) cum paucis, multitudinem dimittam.
{{pn|19.2|2}}me tuae litterae numquam in tantam spem adduxerunt quantam aliorum; ac tamen mea spes etiam tenuior semper fuit quam tuae litterae. sed tamen quoniam coeptum est agi, quoquo modo coeptum est et quacumque de causa, non deseram neque optimi atque unici fratris miseras ac luctuosas preces nec Sesti ceterorumque promissa nec spem aerumnosissimae mulieris Terentiae nec miserrimae [mulieris] Tulliolae obsecrationem et fidelis litteras tuas. mihi Epirus aut iter ad salutem dabit aut quod scripsi supra.
{{pn|19.3|3}}te oro et obsecro, T. Pomponi, si me omnibus amplissimis, carissimis iucundissimisque rebus perfidia hominum spoliatum, si me a meis consiliariis proditum et proiectum vides, si intellegis me coactum ut ipse me et meos perderem, ut me tua misericordia iuves et Quintum fratrem qui potest esse salvus sustentes, Terentiam liberosque meos tueare, me, si putas te istic visurum, exspectes, si minus, invisas, si potes, mihique ex agro tuo tantum adsignes quantum meo corpore occupari potest, et pueros ad me cum litteris quam primum et quam saepissime mittas. data xvi Kal. Octobris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XX.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae iv Non. Oct. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO S. D. Q. CAECILIO Q. N POMPONIANO ATTICO}}
{{pn|20.1|1}}quod quidem ita esse et avunculum tuum functum esse officio vehementissime probo, gaudere me tum dicam, si mihi hoc verbo licebit uti. me miserum! quam omnia essent ex sententia, si nobis animus, si consilium, si fides eorum quibus credidimus non defuisset! quae conligere nolo ne augeam maerorem; sed tibi venire in mentem certo scio quae vita esset nostra, quae suavitas, quae dignitas. ad quae reciperanda, per fortunas! incumbe, ut facis, diemque natalem reditus mei cura ut in tuis aedibus amoenissimis agam tecum et cum meis. ego huic spei et exspectationi quae nobis proponitur maxime tamen volui praestolari apud te in Epiro, sed ita ad me scribitur ut putem esse commodius nos eisdem in locis esse.
{{pn|20.2|2}}de domo et Curionis oratione ut scribis ita est. in universa salute, si ea modo nobis restituetur, inerunt omnia; ex quibus nihil malo quam domum. sed tibi nihil mando nominatim, totum me tuo amori fideique commendo. quod te in tanta hereditate ab omni occupatione expedisti, valde mihi gratum est. quod facultates tuas ad meam salutem polliceris ut omnibus rebus a te praeter ceteros iuver, id quantum sit praesidium video intellegoque te multas partis meae salutis et suscipere et posse sustinere neque ut ita facias rogandum esse. {{pn|20.3|3}}quod me vetas quicquam suspicari accidisse ad animum tuum quod secus a me erga te commissum aut praetermissum videretur, geram tibi morem et liberabor ista cura, tibi tamen eo plus debebo quo tua in me humanitas fuerit excelsior quam in te mea. velim quid videas, quid intellegas, quid agatur ad me scribas tuosque omnis ad nostram salutem adhortere. rogatio Sesti neque dignitatis satis habet nec cautionis. nam et nominatim ferri oportet et de bonis diligentius scribi, et id animadvertas velim. data iiii Nonas Octobris Thessalonicae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXI.}}}}<br>Scr. Thessalonicae v K. Nov. a. 696 (58).<br>Cicero Attico Sal.}}
{{ancora|21}}triginta dies erant ipsi cum has dabam litteras per quos nullas a vobis acceperam. mihi autem erat in animo iam, ut antea ad te scripsi, ire in Epirum et ibi omnem casum potissimum exspectare. te oro ut, si quid erit quod perspicias quamcumque in partem, quam planissime ad me scribas et meo nomine, ut scribis, litteras quibus putabis opus esse ut des. data v Kal. Novembris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXII.}}}}<br>Scr. partim Thessalonicae partim Dyrrachi vi K. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|22.1|1}}etsi diligenter ad me Quintus frater et Piso quae essent acta scripserant, tamen vellem tua te occupatio non impedisset quo minus, ut consuesti, ad me quid ageretur et quid intellegeres perscriberes. me adhuc Plancius liberalitate sua retinet iam aliquotiens conatum ire in Epirum. spes homini est iniecta non eadem quae mihi posse nos una decedere; quam rem sibi magno honori sperat fore. sed iam, cum adventare milites dicentur, faciendum nobis erit ut ab eo discedamus. quod cum faciemus, ad te statim mittemus, ut scias ubi simus.
{{pn|22.2|2}}Lentulus suo in nos officio, quod et re et promissis et litteris declarat, spem nobis non nullam adfert Pompei voluntatis; saepe enim tu ad me scripsisti eum totum esse in illius potestate. de Metello scripsit ad me frater quantum speraret profectum esse per te. {{pn|22.3|3}}mi Pomponi, pugna ut tecum et cum meis mihi liceat vivere et scribe ad me omnia. premor luctu, desiderio cum omnium rerum (tum meorum) qui mihi me cariores semper fuerunt. cura ut valeas.
{{pn|22.4|4}}ego quod per Thessaliam si irem in Epirum perdiu nihil eram auditurus et quod mei studiosos habeo Dyrrachinos, ad eos perrexi, cum illa superiora Thessalonicae scripsissem. Inde cum ad te me convertam, faciam ut scias, tuque ad me velim omnia quam diligentissime cuicuimodi sunt scribas. ego iam aut rem aut ne spem quidem exspecto. data vi Kal. Decembr. Dyrrachi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi pr. K. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|23.1|1}}A. d. v Kal. Decembr. tris epistulas a te accepi, unam datam a. d. viii Kal. Novembris in qua me hortaris ut forti animo mensem Ianuarium exspectem, eaque quae ad spem putas pertinere de Lentuli studio, de Metelli voluntate, de tota Pompei ratione perscribis. in altera epistula praeter consuetudinem tuam diem non adscribis sed satis significas tempus; lege enim ab octo tribunis pl. promulgata scribis te eas litteras eo ipso die dedisse, id est a. d. iiii Kal. Novembris, et quid putes utilitatis eam promulgationem attulisse perscribis. in quo si iam nostra salus cum hac lege desperata erit, velim pro tuo in me amore hanc inanem meam diligentiam miserabilem potius quam ineptam putes, sin est aliquid spei, des operam ut maiore diligentia posthac a nostris magistratibus defendamur.
{{pn|23.2|2}}nam ea veterum tribunorum pl. rogatio tria capita habuit; unum de reditu meo scriptum incaute; nihil enim restituitur praeter civitatem et ordinem, quod mihi pro meo casu satis est; sed quae cavenda fuerint et quo modo te non fugit. alterum caput est tralaticium de impunitate, SI QVID CONTRA ALIAS LEGES EIVS LEGIS ERGO FACTVM SIT. Tertium caput, mi Pomponi, quo consilio et a quo sit inculcatum vide. scis enim Clodium sanxisse ut vix aut ut omnino non posset nec per senatum nec per populum infirmari sua lex. sed vides numquam esse observatas sanctiones earum legum; quae abrogarentur. nam si id esset, nulla fere abrogari posset; neque enim ulla est quae non ipsa se saepiat difficultate abrogationis. sed cum lex abrogatur, illud ipsum abrogatur quo modo eam abrogari oporteat.
{{pn|23.3|3}}hoc quom et re vera ita sit et quom semper ita habitum observatumque sit, octo nostri tribuni pl. caput posuerunt hoc: SI QVID IN HAC ROGATIONE SCRIPTVM EST QVOD PER LEGES PLEBISVE SCITA, hoc est quod per legem Clodiam, PROMVLGARE, ABROGARE, DEROGARE, OBROGARE SINE FRAVDE SVA NON LICEAT, NON LICVERIT, QVODVE EI, QVI PROMVLGAVIT, <ABROGAVIT>, DEROGAVIT, <OBROGAVIT>, OB EAM REM POENAE MVLTAEVE SIT, E. H. L. N. R.
{{pn|23.4|4}}atque hoc in illis tribunis pl. non laedebat; lege enim collegi sui non tenebantur. quo maior est suspicio malitiae aliquoius, cum id quod ad ipsos nihil pertinebat erat autem contra me scripserunt, ut novi tribuni pl. si essent timidiores multo magis sibi eo capite utendum putarent. neque id a Clodio praetermissum est; dixit enim in contione a. d. III Nonas Novembris hoc capite designatis tribunis pl. praescriptum esse quid liceret. tamen in lege nulla esse eius modi caput te non fallit, quod si opus esset, omnes in abrogando <uterentur>r;. Vt Ninnium aut ceteros fugerit investiges velim et quis attulerit et qua re octo tribuni pl. ad senatum de me referre non dubitarint, <sive> . . . sive quod observandum illud caput non putabant, eidem in abrogando tam cauti fuerint ut id metuerent soluti cum essent, quod ne iis quidem qui lege tenentur est curandum. id caput sane nolim novos tribunos pl. ferre; sed perferant modo quidlibet; uno capite quo revocabor, modo res conficiatur, ero contentus. iam dudum pudet tam multa scribere; vereor enim ne re iam desperata legas, ut haec mea diligentia miserabilis tibi, aliis inridenda videatur. sed si est aliquid in spe, vide legem quam T. Fadio scripsit Visellius. ea mihi perplacet; nam Sesti nostri quam tu tibi probari scribis mihi non placet.
{{pn|23.5|5}}Tertia est epistula pridie Idus Novembr. data, in qua exponis prudenter et diligenter quae sint quae rem distinere videantur, de Crasso, de Pompeio, de ceteris. qua re oro te ut, si qua spes erit posse studiis bonorum, auctoritate, multitudine comparata rem confici, des operam ut uno impetu perfringantur, in eam rem incumbas ceterosque excites. sin, ut ego perspicio cum tua coniectura tum etiam mea, spei nihil est, oro obtestorque te ut Quintum fratrem ames quem ego miserum misere perdidi neve quid eum patiare gravius consulere de se quam expediat sororis tuae filio, meum Ciceronem quoi nihil misello relinquo praeter invidiam et ignominiam nominis mei tueare quoad poteris, Terentiam, unam omnium aerumnosissimam, sustentes tuis officiis. ego in Epirum proficiscar quom primorum dierum nuntios excepero. tu ad me velim proximis litteris ut se initia dederint perscribas. data pridie Kal. Decembr.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachium Id. Dec. a. 696 (58).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|24.1|1}}antea quom ad me scripsissetis vestro consensu consulum provincias ornatas esse, etsi verebar quorsum id casurum esset, tamen sperabam vos aliquid aliquando vidisse prudentius; postea quam mihi et dictum est et scriptum vehementer consilium vestrum reprehendi, sum graviter commotus, quod illa ipsa spes exigua quae erat videretur esse sublata. nam si tribuni pl. nobis suscensent, quae potest spes esse? ac videntur iure suscensere, cum et expertes consili fuerint ei qui causam nostram susceperant, et vestra concessione omnem vim sui iuris amiserint, praesertim cum ita dicant, se nostra causa voluisse suam potestatem esse de consulibus ornandis non ut eos impedirent sed ut ad nostram causam adiungerent; nunc si consules a nobis alieniores esse velint, posse id libere facere; sin velint nostra causa, nihil posse se invitis. nam quod scribis, ni ita vobis placuisset, illos hoc idem per populum adsecuturos fuisse, invitis tribunis pl. fieri nullo modo potuit. ita vereor ne et studia tribunorum amiserimus et, si studia maneant, vinclum illud adiungendorum consulum amissum sit.
{{pn|24.2|2}}accedit aliud non parvum incommodum quod gravis illa opinio, ut quidem ad nos perferebatur, senatum nihil decernere ante quam de nobis actum esset, amissa est, praesertim in ea causa quae non modo necessaria non fuit sed etiam inusitata ac nova (neque enim umquam arbitror ornatas esse provincias designatorum), ut, cum in hoc illa constantia quae erat mea causa suscepta imminuta sit, nihil iam possit non decerni. Iis ad quos relatum est amicis placuisse non mirum est; erat enim difficile reperire qui contra tanta commoda duorum consulum palam sententiam diceret. fuit omnino difficile non obsequi vel amicissimo homini Lentulo vel Metello qui simultatem humanissime deponeret; sed vereor ne hos tamen tenere potuerimus, tribunos pl. amiserimus. haec res quem ad modum ceciderit et tota res quo loco sit velim ad me scribas et ita ut instituisti. nam ista veritas, etiam si iucunda non est, mihi tamen grata est. data iiii Id. Decembr.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXV.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi m. Dec. a. 696 (58) post iv Id., ante ii K. Ian.<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|25}}post tuum a me discessum litterae mihi Roma adlatae sunt ex quibus perspicio nobis in hac calamitate tabescendum esse. neque enim (sed bonam in partem accipies) si ulla spes salutis nostrae subesset, tu pro tuo amore in me hoc tempore discessisses. sed ne ingrati aut ne omnia velle nobiscum una interire videamur, hoc omitto; illud abs te peto des operam, id quod mihi adfirmasti, ut te ante Kalendas Ianuarias ubicumque erimus sistas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi m. Ianuario a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|26}}Litterae mihi a Quinto fratre cum senatus consulto quod de me est factum adlatae sunt. mihi in animo est legum lationem exspectare et, si obtrectabitur, utar auctoritate senatus et potius vita quam patria carebo. tu, quaeso, festina ad nos venire.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Dyrrachi ex. m. Ian. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|27}}ex tuis litteris et ex re ipsa nos funditus perisse video. te oro ut quibus in rebus tui mei indigebunt nostris miseriis ne desis. ego te, ut scribis, cito videbo.
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae med. mn. Sept. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|1.1|1}}Cum primum Romam veni fuitque cui recte ad te litteras darem, nihil prius faciendum mihi putavi quam ut tibi absenti de reditu nostro gratularer. cognoram enim, ut vere scribam, te in consiliis mihi dandis nec fortiorem nec prudentiorem quam me ipsum nec etiam pro praeterita mea in te observantia nimium in custodia salutis meae diligentem eundemque te, qui primis temporibus erroris nostri aut potius furoris particeps et falsi timoris socius fuisses, acerbissime discidium nostrum tulisse plurimumque operae, studi, diligentiae, laboris ad conficiendum reditum meum contulisse.
{{pn|1.2|2}}itaque hoc tibi vere adfirmo, in maxima laetitia et exoptatissima gratulatione unum ad cumulandum gaudium conspectum aut potius complexum mihi tuum defuisse. quem semel nactus si umquam dimisero ac nisi etiam praetermissos fructus tuae suavitatis praeteriti temporis omnis exegero, profecto hac restitutione fortunae me ipse non satis dignum iudicabo.
{{pn|1.3|3}}nos adhuc, in nostro statu quod difficillime reciperari posse arbitrati sumus, splendorem nostrum illum forensem et in senatu auctoritatem et apud viros bonos gratiam magis quam optaramus consecuti sumus; in re autem familiari, quae quem ad modum fracta, dissipata, direpta sit non ignoras, valde laboramus tuarumque non tam facultatum quas ego nostras esse iudico quam consiliorum ad conligendas et constituendas reliquias nostras indigemus.
{{pn|1.4|4}}nunc etsi omnia aut scripta esse a tuis arbitror aut etiam nuntiis ac rumore perlata, tamen ea scribam brevi quae te puto potissimum ex meis litteris velle cognoscere. Pr. Nonas Sextilis Dyrrachio sum profectus ipso illo die quo lex est lata de nobis. Brundisium veni Nonis Sextilibus. ibi mihi Tulliola mea fuit praesto natali suo ipso die qui casu idem natalis erat et Brundisinae coloniae et tuae vicinae salutis; quae res animadversa a multitudine summa Brundinisorum gratulatione celebrata est. ante diem iii Idus Sextilis cognovi, quom Brundisi essem, litteris Quinti mirifico studio omnium aetatum atque ordinum, incredibili concursu Italiae legem comitiis centuriatis esse perlatam. Inde a Brundisinis honestissime ornatus iter ita feci ut undique ad me cum gratulatione legati convenerint.
{{pn|1.5|5}}ad urbem ita veni ut nemo ullius ordinis homo nomenclatori notus fuerit qui mihi obviam non venerit, praeter eos inimicos quibus id ipsum, se inimicos esse, non liceret aut dissimulare aut negare. Cum venissem ad portam Capenam, gradus templorum ab infima plebe completi erant. A qua plausu maximo cum esset mihi gratulatio significata, similis et frequentia et plausus me usque ad Capitolium celebravit in foroque et in ipso Capitolio miranda multitudo fuit.
{{pn|1.6|6}}postridie in senatu qui fuit dies Nonarum Septembr. senatui gratias egimus. eo biduo cum esset annonae summa caritas et homines ad theatrum primo, deinde ad senatum concurrissent, impulsu Clodi mea opera frumenti inopiam esse clamarent, cum per eos dies senatus de annona haberetur et ad eius procurationem sermone non solum plebis verum etiam bonorum Pompeius vocaretur idque ipse cuperet multitudoque a me nominatim ut id decernerem postularet, feci et accurate sententiam dixi. Cum abessent consulares, quod tuto se negarent posse sententiam dicere, praeter Messallam et Afranium, factum est senatus consultum in meam sententiam, ut cum Pompeio ageretur ut eam rem susciperet lexque ferretur. quo senatus consulto recitato cum (populus) more hoc insulso et novo plausum meo nomine recitando dedisset, habui contionem. omnes magistratus praesentes praeter unum praetorem et duos tribunos pl. dederunt. {{pn|1.7|7}}postridie senatus frequens et omnes consulares nihil Pompeio postulanti negarunt. ille legatos quindecim cum postularet, me principem nominavit et ad omnia me alterum se fore dixit. legem consules conscripserunt qua Pompeio per quinquennium omnis potestas rei frumentariae toto orbe terrarum daretur, alteram Messius qui omnis pecuniae dat potestatem et adiungit classem et exercitum et maius imperium in provinciis quam sit eorum qui eas obtineant. illa nostra lex consularis nunc modesta videtur, haec messi non ferenda. Pompeius illam velle se dicit, familiares hanc. consulares duce Favonio fremunt; nos tacemus et eo magis quod de domo nostra nihil adhuc pontifices responderunt. qui si sustulerint religionem, aream praeclaram habebimus; superficiem consules ex senatus consulto aestimabunt; sin aliter, +demolientur, suo+ nomine locabunt, rem totam aestimabunt.
{{pn|1.8|8}}ita sunt res nostrae, Vt in secundis fluxae, ut in advorsis bonae. in re familiari valde sumus, ut scis, perturbati. praeterea sunt quaedam domestica quae litteris non committo. quin tum fratrem insigni pietate, virtute, fide praeditum sic amo ut debeo. te exspecto et oro ut matures venire eoque animo venias ut me tuo consilio egere non sinas. alterius vitae quoddam initium ordimur. iam quidam qui nos absentis defenderunt incipiunt praesentibus occulte irasci, aperte invidere. vehementer te requirimus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae in. m. Oct. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|2.1|1}}si forte rarius tibi a me quam a ceteris litterae redduntur peto a te ut id non modo neglegentiae meae sed ne occupationi quidem tribuas; quae etsi summa est, tamen nulla esse potest tanta ut interrumpat iter amoris nostri et offici mei. nam ut veni Romam, iterum nunc sum certior factus esse cui darem litteras; itaque has alteras dedi. prioribus tibi declaravi adventus noster qualis fuisset et quis esset status atque omnes res nostrae quem ad modum essent, Vt in secundis fluxae, ut in advorsis bonae.
{{pn|2.2|2}}post illas datas litteras secuta est summa contentio de domo. diximus apud pontifices pr. Kal. Octobris. Acta res est accurate a nobis et, si umquam in dicendo fuimus aliquid aut etiam si numquam alias fuimus, tum profecto doloris magnitudo vim quandam nobis dicendi dedit. itaque oratio iuventuti nostrae deberi non potest; quam tibi, etiam si non desideras, tamen mittam cito.
{{pn|2.3|3}}Cum pontifices decressent ita, SI NEQVE POPVLI IVSSV NEQVE PLEBIS SCITV IS QVI SE DEDICASSE DICERET NOMINATIM EI REI PRAEFECTVS ESSET NEQVE POPVLI IVSSV AUT PLEBIS SCITV ID FACERE IVSSVS ESSET VIDERI, POSSE SINE RELIGIONE EAM PARTEM AREAE MIHI RESTITVI, mihi facta statim est gratulatio; nemo enim dubitabat quin domus nobis esset adiudicata; cum subito ille in contionem escendit quam Appius ei dedit. nuntiat iam populo pontifices secundum se decrevisse, me autem vi conari in possessionem venire; hortatur ut se et Appium sequantur et suam libertatem vi defendant. hic cum etiam illi infimi partim admirarentur partim inriderent hominis amentiam, ego statuerem illuc non accedere nisi cum consules ex senatus consulto porticum Catuli restituendam locassent Kal Octobr. habetur senatus frequens.
{{pn|2.4|4}}adhibentur omnes pontifices qui erant senatores. A quibus Marcellinus, qui erat cupidissimus mei, sententiam primus rogatus quaesivit quid essent in decernendo secuti. tum M. Lucullus de omnium conlegarum sententia respondit religionis iudices pontifices fuisse, legis esse senatum; se et conlegas suos de religione statuisse, in senatu de lege statuturos cum senatu. itaque sub quisque horum loco sententiam rogatus multa secundum causam nostram disputavit. Cum ad Clodium ventum est, cupiit diem consumere neque ei finis est factus, sed tamen cum horas tris fere dixisset, odio et strepitu senatus coactus est aliquando perorare. Cum fieret senatus consultum in sententiam Marcellini omnibus praeter unum adsentientibus, Serranus (intercessit. de) intercessione statim ambo consules referre coeperunt. Cum sententiae gravissimae dicerentur, senatui placere mihi domum restitui, porticum Catuli locari, auctoritatem ordinis ab omnibus magistratibus defendi si quae vis esset facta, senatum existimaturum eius opera factum esse qui senatus consulto intercessisset, Serranus pertimuit et Cornicinus ad suam veterem fabulam rediit; abiecta toga se ad generi pedes abiecit. ille noctem sibi postulavit. non concedebant, reminiscebantur enim Kal. Ianuar. vix tandem tibi de mea voluntate concessum est.
{{pn|2.5|5}}postridie senatus consultum factum est id quod ad te misi. deinde consules porticum Catuli restituendam locarunt; illam porticum redemptores statim sunt demoliti libentissimis omnibus. nobis superficiem aedium consules de consili sententia aestimarunt sestertio viciens, cetera valde inliberaliter, Tusculanam villam quingentis milibus, Formianum HS ducentis quinquaginta milibus. quae aestimatio non modo vehementer ab optimo quoque sed etiam a plebe reprehenditur. dices: 'quid igitur causae fuit?' dicunt illi quidem pudorem meum, quod neque negarim neque vehementius postularim; sed non est id; nam hoc quidem etiam profuisset; verum iidem, mi T. Pomponi, iidem inquam illi quos ne tu quidem ignoras qui mihi pinnas inciderant nolunt easdem renasci. sed, ut spero, iam renascuntur. tu modo ad nos veni; quod vereor ne tardius interventu Varronis tui nostrique facias.
{{pn|2.6|6}}quoniam acta quae sint habes, de reliqua nostra cogitatione cognosce. ego me a Pompeio legari ita sum passus ut nulla re impedirer. quod nisi vellem mihi esset integrum ut, si comitia censorum proximi consules haberent, petere possem, votivam legationem sumpsissem prope omnium fanorum, lucorum; sic enim nostrae rationes utilitatis meae postulabant. sed volui meam potestatem esse vel petendi vel ineunte aestate exeundi et interea me esse in oculis civium de me optime meritorum non alienum putavi.
{{pn|2.7|7}}ac forensium quidem rerum haec nostra consilia sunt, domesticarum autem valde impedita. domus aedificatur, scis quo sumptu, qua molestia; reficitur Formianum, quod ego nec relinquere possum nec videre; Tusculanum proscripsi; suburbano facile careo. amicorum benignitas exhausta est in ea re quae nihil habuit praeter dedecus, quod sensisti tu absens (nos) praesentes; quorum studiis ego et copiis, si esset per meos defensores licitum, facile essem omnia consecutus. quo in genere nunc vehementer laboratur. cetera quae me sollicitant μυστικώτερα sunt. amamur a fratre et a filia. (te) exspectamus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae vi K. Dec. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|3.1|1}}avere te certo scio cum scire quid hic agatur tum mea a me scire, non quo certiora sint ea quae in oculis omnium geruntur si a me scribantur quam cum ab aliis aut scribantur tibi aut nuntientur, sed ut perspicias ex meis litteris quo animo ea feram quae geruntur et qui sit hoc tempore aut mentis meae sensus aut omnino vitae status.
{{pn|3.2|2}}armatis hominibus ante diem tertium Nonas Novembris expulsi sunt fabri de area nostra, disturbata porticus Catuli quae ex senatus consulto consulum locatione reficiebatur et ad tectum paene pervenerat, Quinti fratris domus primo fracta coniectu lapidum ex area nostra, deinde inflammata iussu Clodi, inspectante urbe coniectis ignibus, magna querela et gemitu non dicam bonorum, qui nescio an nulli sint, sed plane hominum omnium. ille demens ruere, post hunc vero furorem nihil nisi caedem inimicorum cogitare, vicatim ambire, servis aperte spem libertatis ostendere. etenim antea cum iudicium tollebat, habebat ille quidem difficilem manifestamque causam sed tamen causam; poterat infitiari, poterat in alios derivare, poterat etiam aliquid iure factum defendere; post has ruinas, incendia, rapinas desertus a suis vix iam Decimum designatorem, vix Gellium retinet, servorum consiliis utitur, videt, si omnis quos vult palam occiderit, nihilo suam causam difficiliorem quam adhuc sit in iudicio futuram. {{pn|3.3|3}}itaque ante diem tertium Idus Novembris, cum sacra via descenderem, insecutus est me cum suis. clamor, lapides, fustes, gladii, haec improvisa omnia. discessimus in vestibulum Tetti Damionis. qui erant mecum facile operas aditu prohibuerunt. ipse occidi potuit, sed ego diaeta curare incipio, chirurgiae taedet. ille omnium vocibus cum se non ad iudicium sed ad supplicium praesens trudi videret, omnis Catilinas Acidinos postea reddidit. nam Milonis domum, eam quae (est in) Cermalo, pr. Idus Novembr. expugnare et incendere ita conatus est ut palam hora quinta cum scutis homines eductis gladiis, alios cum accensis facibus adduxerit. ipse domum P. Sullae pro castris sibi ad eam impugnationem sumpserat. tum ex Anniana Milonis domo Q. Flaccus eduxit viros acris; occidit homines ex omni latrocinio Clodiano notissimos, ipsum cupivit, sed ille se in interiora aedium Sullae. exin senatus postridie Idus. domi Clodius. Egregius Marcellinus, omnes acres. Metellus calumnia dicendi tempus exemit adiuvante Appio, etiam hercule familiari tuo, de cuius constantia virtute (tuae) verissimae litterae. Sestius furere. ille postea, si comitia sua non fierent, urbi minari. (Milo) proposita Marcellini sententia, quam ille de scripto ita dixerat ut totam nostram causam areae, incendiorum, periculi mei iudicio complecteretur eaque omnia comitiis anteferret, proscripsit se per omnis dies comitialis de caelo servaturum.
{{pn|3.4|4}}contiones turbulentae Metelli, temerariae Appi, furiosissimae Publi haec tamen summa, nisi Milo in campo obnuntiasset, comitia futura. ante diem xii Kal. Decembr. Milo ante mediam noctem cum, magna manu in campum venit. Clodius cum haberet fugitivorum delectas copias, in campum ire non est ausus. Milo permansit ad meridiem mirifica hominum laetitia summa cum gloria. contentio fratrum trium turpis, fracta vis, contemptus furor. Metellus tamen postulat ut sibi postero die in foro obnuntietur; nihil esse quod in campum nocte veniretur; se hora prima in comitio fore. itaque ante diem xi Kal. in comitium Milo de nocte venit. Metellus cum prima luce furtim in campum itineribus prope deviis currebat; adsequitur inter lucos hominem Milo, obnuntiat. ille se recepit magno et turpi Q. Flacci convicio. ante diem x Kal. nundinae. {{pn|3.5|5}}contio biduo nulla. ante diem viii Kal. haec ego scribebam hora noctis nona. Milo campum iam tenebat. Marcellus candidatus ita stertebat ut ego vicinus audirem. Clodi vestibulum vacuum sane mihi nuntiabatur, pauci pannosi, linea lanterna. meo consilio omnia illi fieri querebantur ignari quantum in illo heroe esset animi, quantum etiam consili. miranda virtus est. nova quaedam divina mitto; sed haec summa est. comitia fore non arbitror; reum Publium, nisi ante occisus erit, fore a Milone puto; si se in turba ei iam obtulerit, occisum iri ab ipso Milone video. non dubitat facere, prae se fert; casum illum nostrum non extimescit. numquam enim cuiusquam invidi et perfidi consilio est usurus nec inerti nobili crediturus.
{{pn|3.6|6}}nos animo dumtaxat vigemus etiam magis (quam) cum florebamus, re familiari comminuti sumus. Quinti fratris tamen liberalitati pro facultatibus nostris, ne omnino exhaustus essem, illo recusante subsidiis amicorum respondemus. quid consili de omni nostro statu capiamus te absente nescimus. qua re adpropera.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae iii K. Febr. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|4}}periucundus mihi Cincius fuit ante diem iii Kal. Febr. ante lucem; dixit enim mihi te esse in Italia seseque ad te pueros mittere. quos sine meis litteris ire nolui, non quo haberem quod tibi, praesertim iam prope praesenti, scriberem sed ut hoc ipsum significarem, mihi tuum adventum suavissimum exspectatissimumque esse. qua re advola ad nos eo animo ut nos ames, te amari scias. cetera coram agemus. haec properantes scripsimus. quo die venies, utique cum tuis apud me sis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. in Antiati m. April. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|5.1|1}}ain tu? me existimas ab ullo malle mea legi probarique quam a te? cur igitur cuiquam misi prius? Urgebar ab eo ad quem misi, et non habebam exemplar. quid? etiam (dudum enim circumrodo quod devorandum est) subturpicula mihi videbatur esse παλινῳδία. sed valeant recta, vera, honesta consilia. non est credibile quae sit perfidia in istis principibus, ut volunt esse et ut essent si quicquam haberent fidei. senseram noram inductus, relictus, proiectus ab iis. tamen hoc eram animo ut cum iis in re publica consentirem. idem erant qui fuerant. vix aliquando te auctore resipui. {{pn|5.2|2}}dices ea te monuisse, suasisse a quae facerem, non etiam ut scriberem. ego me hercule mihi necessitatem volui imponere huius novae coniunctionis, ne qua mihi liceret labi ad illos qui etiam tum cum misereri mei debent non desinunt invidere. sed tamen modici fuimus ὑποθέσει, ut scripsi. erimus uberiores si et ille libenter accipiet, et ii subringentur qui villam me moleste ferunt habere quae Catuli fuerat, a Vettio emisse non cogitant; qui domum negant oportuisse me aedificare, vendere aiunt oportuisse. sed quid ad hoc, si, quibus sententiis dixi quod et ipsi probarent, laetati sunt tamen me contra Pompei voluntatem dixisse? finis sit. quoniam qui nihil possunt ii me nolunt amare, demus operam ut ab iis qui a possunt diligamur. dices "vellem iam pridem." scio te voluisse et me Usinum germanum fuisse. sed iam tempus est me ipsum a me amari, quando ab illis nullo modo possum. domum meam quod crebro invisis est mihi valde gratum. viaticum Crassipes praeripit. tu de via recta in hortos. videtur commodius ad te; postridie scilicet; quid enim tua? sed viderimus. bibliothecam mihi tui pinxerunt constructione et sittybis. Eos velim laudes.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Antiati m. Apr. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|6.1|1}}de Lentulo scilicet sic fero ut debeo. virum bonum et magnum hominem et in summa magnitudine animi multa humanitate temperatum perdidimus nosque malo solacio sed non nullo tamen consolamur quod ipsius vicem minime dolemus non ut Saufeius et vestri sed me hercule quia sic amabat patriam ut mihi aliquo deorum beneficio videatur ex eius incendio esse ereptus. nam quid foedius nostra vita, praecipue mea? nam tu quidem, etsi es natura πολιτικός, tamen nullam habes propriam servitutem, communi frueris nomine;
{{pn|6.2|2}}ego vero qui, si loquor de re publica quod oportet, insanus, si quod opus est, servus existimor, si taceo, oppressus et captus, quo dolore esse debeo? quo sum scilicet, hoc etiam acriore quod ne dolere quidem possum ut non ingratus videar. quid si cessare libeat et in oti portum confugere? nequiquam; immo etiam in bellum et in castra. ergo erimus ὀπαδοί qui ταγοὶ esse noluimus? sic faciendum est, tibi enim ipsi (quoi utinam semper paruissem!) sic video placere. reliquum iam est Σπάρταν ἔλαχες, ταύταν κόσμει non me hercule possum et Philoxeno ignosco qui reduci in carcerem maluit. verum tamen id ipsum mecum in his locis commentor ut ista (ne) improbem, idque tu cum una erimus confirmabis. A te litteras crebro ad me scribi video sed omnis uno tempore accepi. quae res etiam auxit dolorem meum. casu enim trinas ante legeram quibus meliuscule Lentulo .esse scriptum erat. ecce quartae fulmen! sed ille, ut scripsi, non miser, nos vero ferrei.
{{pn|6.3|3}}quod me admones ut scribam illa Hortensiana, in alia incidi non immemor istius mandati tui; sed me hercule (in) incipiendo refugi ne qui videor stulte illius amici intemperiem non tulisse rursus stulte iniuriam illius faciam inlustrem si quid scripsero, et simul ne βαθύτης mea quae in agendo apparuit in scribendo sit occultior et aliquid satisfactio levitatis habere videatur.
{{pn|6.4|4}}sed viderimus; tu modo quam saepissime ad me aliquid. epistulam Lucceio nunc quam misi, qua meas res ut scribat rogo, fac ut ab eo sumas (valde bella est) eumque ut adproperet adhorteris et quod mihi se ita facturum rescripsit agas gratias, domum nostram quoad poteris invisas, Vestorio aliquid significes. valde enim est in me liberalis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Arpinati m. Apr. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|7.1|1}}nihil εὐκαιρότερον epistula tua quae me sollicitum de Quinto nostro, puero optimo, valde levavit. venerat horis duabus ante Chaerippus, mera monstra nuntiarat. de Apollonio quod scribis, qui illi di irati! homini Graeco qui conturbat atque idem putat sibi licere quod equitibus Romanis. nam Terentius suo iure. {{pn|7.2|2}}de Metello οὐχ ὁσίη φθιμένοισιν, sed tamen multis annis civis nemo erat mortuus qui quidem . . . tibi nummi meo periculo sint. quid enim vereris? quemcumque heredem fecit, nisi Publium fecit, virum fecit, non improbe, quamquam fuit ipse. qua re in hoc thecam nummariam non retexeris, in aliis eris cautior.
{{pn|7.3|3}}mea mandata de domo curabis, praesidia locabis, Milonem admonebis. Arpinatium fremitus est incredibilis de Laterio. quid quaeris? equidem dolui; ὁ δὲ οὐκ ἐμπάζετο μύθων quod superest, etiam puerum Ciceronem curabis et amabis, ut facis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Antiati m. Apr. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|8.1|1}}multa me in epistula tua delectarunt sed nihil magis quam patina tyrotarichi. nam de raudusculo quod scribis, μήπω μέγ᾽ εἴπῃς πρὶν τελευτήσαντ᾽ ἴδῃς aedificati tibi in agris nihil reperio. in oppido est quiddam, de quo est dubium sitne venale, ac proximum quidem nostris aedibus. hoc scito, Antium Buthrotum esse Romae, ut Corcyrae illud tuum (Antium). nihil quietius, nihil alsius, nihil amoenius. Εἴη μοὶ οὕτος φίλος οἶκος.
{{pn|8.2|2}}postea vero, quam Tyrannio mihi libros disposuit, mens addita videtur meis aedibus. qua quidem in re mirifica opera Dionysi et Menophili tui fuit. nihil venustius quam illa tua pegmata, postquam mi sillybis libros inlustrarunt. vale. et scribas ad me velim de gladiatoribus, sed ita bene si rem gerunt; non quaero, male si se gesserunt.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Neapoli iv K. Mai a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|9.1|1}}sane velim scire num censum impediant tribuni diebus vitiandis (est enim hic rumor) totaque de censura quid agant, quid cogitent. nos hic cum Pompeio fuimus. multa mecum de re publica sane sibi displicens, ut loquebatur (sic est enim in hoc homine dicendum), Syriam spernens, Hispaniam iactans, hic quoque, ut loquebatur; et opinor usque quaque, de hoc cum dicemus, sit hoc quasi καὶ τόδε Φωκυλίδου. tibi etiam gratias agebat quod signa componenda suscepisses; in nos vero suavissime hercule est effusus. venit etiam ad me in Cumanum a se. nihil minus velle mihi visus est quam Messallam consulatum petere. de quo ipso si quid scis velim scire.
{{pn|9.2|2}}quod Lucceio scribis te nostram gloriam commendaturum et aedificium nostrum quod crebro invisis, gratum. Quintus frater ad me scripsit se, quoniam Ciceronem suavissimum tecum haberes, ad te Nonis Maias venturum. )ego me de Cumano movi ante diem v Kal. Maias. eo die Neapoli apud Paetum. ante diem IIII Kal. Maias iens in Pompeianum bene mane haec scripsi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cttn:ano ix K. Mat a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|10.1|1}}Puteolis magnus est rumor Ptolomaeum esse in regno. si quid habes certius velim scire. ego hic pascor bibliotheca Fausti. fortasse tu putabas his rebus Puteolanis et Lucrinensibus. ne ista quidem desunt. sed me hercule (ut) a ceteris oblectationibus deseror [et] voluptatum propter rem publicam, sic litteris sustentor et recreor maloque in illa tua sedecula quam habes sub imagine Aristotelis sedere quam in istorum sella curuli tecumque apud te ambulare quam cum eo quocum video esse ambulandum. sed de illa ambulatione fors viderit aut si qui est qui curet deus;
{{pn|10.2|2}}nostram ambulationem et Laconicum eaque quae Cyrea sint velim quod poterit invisas et urgeas Philotimum ut properet, ut possim tibi aliquid in eo genere respondere. Pompeius in Cumanum parilibus venit. misit ad me statim qui salutem nuntiaret. ad eum postridie mane vadebam, cum haec scripsi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cumano a. d. v. K. Mai. a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|11.1|1}}delectarunt me epistulae tuae quas accepi uno tempore duas ante diem v Kal. Perge reliqua. gestio scire ista omnia. etiam illud cuius modi sit velim perspicias; potes a Demetrio. dixit mihi Pompeius Crassum a se in Albano exspectari ante diem iiii Kal.; is cum venisset, Romam (eum) et se statim venturos ut rationes cum publicanis putarent. quaesivi gladiatoribusne. respondit ante quam inducerentur. id cuius modi sit aut nunc si scies aut cum is Romam venerit ad me mittas velim.
{{pn|11.2|2}}nos hic voramus litteras cum homine mirifico (ita me hercule sentio) Dionysio qui te omnisque vos salutat. Οὐδὲν γλυκύτερον ἢ πᾶν εἰδέναι. qua re ut homini curioso ita perscribe ad me quid primus dies, quid secundus, quid censores, quid Appius, quid illa populi Appuleia; denique etiam quid a te fiat ad me velim scribas. non enim, ut vere loquamur, tam rebus novis quam tuis litteris delector. ego mecum praeter Dionysium eduxi neminem nec metuo tamen ne mihi sermo desit. +abs te opere+ delector. tu Lucceio nostrum librum dabis. Demetri Magnetis tibi mitto, statim ut sit qui a te mihi epistulam referat.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. um Mai. a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|12}}Egnatius Romae est. sed ego cum eo de re Halimeti vehementer Anti egi. graviter se acturum cum Aquilio confirmavit. videbis ergo hominem si voles. Macroni vix videor praesto esse (posse); Idibus enim auctionem Larini video et biduum praeterea. id tu, quoniam Macronem tanti facis, ignoscas mihi velim. sed si me diligis, postridie Kal. cena apud me cum Pilia. prorsus id facies. Kalendis cogito in hortis Crassipedis quasi in deversorio cenare. facio fraudem senatus consulto. Inde domum cenatus, ut sim mane praesto Miloni. ibi te igitur videbo et permanebo. domus te nostra tota salutat.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Tusculano m. Nov. post xvii K. Dec. a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|13.1|1}}nos in Tusculanum venisse a. d. xvii Kal. Dec. video te scire. ibi Dionysius nobis praesto fuit. Romae a. d. xiiii Kal. volumus esse. quid dico 'volumus'? immo vero cogimur. Milonis nuptiae. comitiorum non nulla opinio est. ego, ut sit rata, afuisse me in altercationibus quas in senatu factas audio fero non moleste. nam aut defendissem quod non placeret aut defuissem cui non oporteret. sed me hercule velim res istas et praesentem statum rei publicae et quo animo consules ferant hunc σκυλμόν scribas ad me quantum pote. valde sum ὀξύπεινος et, si quaeris, omnia mihi sunt suspecta.
{{pn|13.2|2}}Crassum quidem nostrum minore dignitate aiunt profectum paludatum quam olim aequalem eius L. Paulum, item iterum consulem. O hominem nequam! de libris oratoriis factum est a me diligenter. diu multumque in manibus fuerunt. describas licet. illud (etiam atque) etiam te rogo, τὴν παροῦσαν κατάστασιν τυπωδῶς, ne istuc hospes veniam.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cumano m. Mai. post vi Id. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|14.1|1}}Vestorius noster me per litteras fecit certiorem te Roma a. d. vi Idus Maias putari profectum esse tardius quam dixeras quod minus valuisses. si iam melius vales, vehementer gaudeo. velim domum ad te scribas ut mihi tui libri pateant non secus ac si ipse adesses cum ceteri tum Varronis. est enim mihi utendum quibusdam rebus ex his libris ad eos quos in manibus habeo; quos, ut spero, tibi valde probabo.
{{pn|14.2|2}}tu velim si quid forte novi habes, maxime a Quinto fratre, deinde a C. Caesare, et si quid forte de comitiis, de re publica (soles enim tu haec festive odorari), scribas ad me; si nihil habebis, tamen scribas aliquid. numquam enim mihi tua epistula aut intempestiva aut loquax visa est. maxime autem rogo rebus tuis totoque itinere ex sententia confecto nos quam primum revisas. Dionysium iube salvere. cura ut valeas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae vi K. Sext. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|15.1|1}}de Eutychide gratum qui vetere praenomine, novo nomine T. erit Caecilius, ut est ex me et ex te iunctus Dionysius M. Pomponius. valde me hercule mihi gratum est Eutychidem tuam erga me benevolentiam cognosse (et) suam illam in meo dolore συμπάθειαν neque tum mihi obscuram neque post ingratam fuisse.
{{pn|15.2|2}}iter Asiaticum tuum puto tibi suscipiendum fuisse; numquam enim tu sine iustissima causa tam longe a tot tuis et hominibus et rebus carissimis et suavissimis abesse voluisses. sed humanitatem tuam amoremque in tuos reditus celeritas declarabit. sed vereor ne lepore suo detineat diutius praetor Clodius et homo pereruditus, ut aiunt, et nunc quidem deditus Graecis litteris Pituanius. sed si vis homo esse, recipe te ad nos ad quod tempus confirmasti. Cum illis tamen cum salvi venerint Romae vivere licebit. avere te scribis accipere aliquid a me litterarum.
{{pn|15.3|3}}dedi ac multis quidem de rebus ἡμερολεγδὸν perscripta omnia; sed ut conicio, quoniam mihi non videris in Epiro diu fuisse, redditas tibi non arbitror. genus autem mearum ad te quidem litterarum eius modi fere est ut non libeat cuiquam dare nisi de quo exploratum sit tibi eum redditurum.
{{pn|15.4|4}}nunc Romanas res accipe. A. d. iiii Nonas Quintilis Sufenas et Cato absoluti, Procilius condemnatus. ex quo intellectum est τρισαρειοπαγίτας ambitum, comitia, interregnum, maiestatem, totam denique rem publicam flocci non facere, [debemus] patrem familias domi suae occidi nolle, neque tamen id ipsum abunde; nam absolverunt xxii, condemnarunt xxviii. Publius sane diserto epilogo criminans (me) mentis iudicum commoverat. Hortalus in ea causa fuit cuius modi solet. nos verbum nullum; verita est enim pusilla, quae nunc laborat, ne animum Publi offenderem.
{{pn|15.5|5}}his rebus actis Reatini me ad sua Τέμπη duxerunt ut agerem causam contra Interamnatis apud consulem et decem legatos, quod lacus Velinus a M'. Curio emissus interciso monte in Nar defluit; ex quo est illa siccata et umida tamen modice Rosia. vixi cum Axio, qui etiam me ad septem aquas duxit.
{{pn|15.6|6}}redii Romam Fontei causa a. d. vii Idus Quint. veni in spectaculum primum magno et aequabili plausu. sed hoc ne curaris; ego ineptus qui scripserim. deinde Antiphonti operam. is erat ante manu missus quam productus. ne diutius pendeas, palmam tulit; sed nihil tam pusillum, nihil tam sine voce, nihil tam . . . verum haec tu tecum habeto. in Andromacha tamen maior fuit quam Astyanax, in ceteris parem habuit neminem. quaeris nunc de Arbuscula; valde placuit. ludi magnifici et grati; venatio in aliud tempus dilata.
{{pn|15.7|7}}sequere nunc me in campum. ardet ambitus; σῆμα δέ τοι ἐρέω; faenus ex triente Idibus Quintilibus factum erat bessibus. dices "istuc quidem non moleste fero." O virum! o civem! Memmium Caesaris omnes opes confirmant. Cum eo Domitium consules iunxerunt, qua pactione epistulae committere non audeo. Pompeius fremit, queritur, Scauro studet, sed utrum fronte an mente dubitatur. Ἐξοχὴ in nullo est; pecunia omnium dignitatem exaequat. Messalla languet, non quo aut animus desit aut amici sed coitio consulum (et) Pompeius obsunt. ea comitia puto fore ut ducantur. tribunicii candidati iurarunt se arbitrio Catonis petituros. apud eum HS quingena deposuerunt ut qui a Catone damnatus esset id perderet et competitoribus tribueretur.
{{pn|15.8|8}}haec ego pridie scribebam quam comitia fore putabantur. sed ad te, quinto Kal. Sextil. si facta erunt et tabellarius non erit profectus, tota comitia perscribam. quae si, ut putantur, gratuita fuerint, plus unus Cato potuerit quam (omnes leges) omnesque iudices.
{{pn|15.9|9}}Messius defendebatur a nobis de legatione revocatus; nam eum Caesari legarat Appius. Servilius edixit ut adesset. tribus habet Pomptinam, Velinam, Maeciam. pugnatur acriter; agitur tamen satis. deinde me expedio ad Drusum, inde ad Scaurum. parantur orationibus indices gloriosi. fortasse accedent etiam consules designati. in quibus si Scaurus non fuerit, in hoc iudicio valde laborabit. {{pn|15.10|10}}ex Quinti fratris litteris suspicor iam eum esse in Britannia. suspenso animo exspecto quid agat. illud quidem sumus adepti, quod multis et magnis indiciis possumus iudicare, nos Caesari et carissimos et iucundissimos esse. Dionysium velim salvere iubeas et eum roges et hortere ut quam primum veniat, ut possit Ciceronem meum atque etiam me ipsum erudire.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ex. m. Iun. aut in. Quint. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|16.1|1}}occupationum mearum vel hoc signum erit quod epistula librari manu est. de epistularum frequentia te nihil accuso, sed pleraeque tantum modo mihi nuntiabant ubi esses, vel etiam significabant recte esse, quod erant abs te. quo in genere maxime delectarunt duae fere eodem tempore abs te Buthroto datae. scire enim volebam te commode navigasse. sed haec epistularum frequentia non tam ubertate sua quam crebritate delectavit. illa fuit gravis et plena rerum quam mihi M. Paccius, hospes tuus, reddidit. ad eam rescribam igitur et hoc quidem primum. paccio ratione et verbis et re ostendi quid tua commendatio ponderis haberet. itaque in intimis est meis, cum antea notus non fuisset.
{{pn|16.2|2}}nunc pergam ad cetera. Varro, de quo ad me scribis, includetur in aliquem locum, si modo erit locus. sed nosti genus dialogorum meorum. Vt in oratoriis, quos tu in caelum fers, non potuit mentio fieri cuiusquam ab iis qui disputant, nisi eius qui illis notus aut auditus esset, ita hanc ego de re publica quam institui disputationem in Africani personam et Phili et Laeli (et) Manili contuli. adiunxi adulescentis Q. Tuberonem, P. Rutilium, duo Laeli generos, Scaevolam et Fannium. itaque cogitabam, quoniam in singulis libris utor prohoemiis ut Aristoteles in iis quos ἐξωτερικοὺς vocat, aliquid efficere ut non sine causa istum appellarem; id quod intellego tibi placere. Vtinam modo conata efficere possim! rem enim, quod te non fugit, magnam complexus sum et gravem et plurimi oti, quo ego maxime egeo.
{{pn|16.3|3}}quod in iis libris quos laudas personam desideras Scaevolae, non eam temere dimovi sed feci idem quod in πολιτείᾳ deus ille noster Plato. Cum in Piraeum Socrates venisset ad Cephalum, locupletem et festivum senem, quoad primus ille sermo habetur, adest in disputando senex, deinde cum ipse quoque commodissime locutus esset, ad rem divinam dicit se velle discedere neque postea revertitur. credo Platonem vix putasse satis consonum fore si hominem id aetatis in tam longo sermone diutius retinuisset. multo ego magis hoc mihi cavendum putavi in Scaevola, qui et aetate et valetudine erat ea qua eum esse meministi et iis honoribus ut vix satis decorum videretur eum pluris dies esse in Crassi Tusculano. et erat primi libri sermo non alienus a Scaevolae studiis, reliqui libri τεχνολογίαν habent, ut scis. huic ioculatorem senem ilium, ut noras, interesse sane nolui.
{{pn|16.4|4}}de re Piliae quod scribis erit mihi curae. etenim est luculenta res Aureliani, ut scribis, indiciis. et in eo me etiam Tulliae meae venditabo. Vestorio non desum. gratum enim tibi id esse intellego et ut ille intellegat curo. sed scis qui? Cum habeat duo facilis nihil difficilius.
{{pn|16.5|5}}nunc ad ea (quae) quaeris de C. Catone. lege Iunia et Licinia scis absolutum; Fufia ego tibi nuntio absolutum iri neque patronis suis tam libentibus quam accusatoribus. is tamen et mecum et cum Milone in gratiam rediit. Drusus reus est factus a Lucretio. iudicibus reiciendis (dies est dictus) a. d. v Non. Quint. de Procilio rumores non boni, sed iudicia nosti. Hirrus cum Domitio in gratia est. senatus consultum quod hi consules de provinciis fecerunt QVICVMQVE POSTHAC — non mihi videtur esse valiturum.
{{pn|16.6|6}}de Messalla quod quaeris, quid scribam nescio. numquam ego vidi tam paris candidatos. Messallae copias nosti. Scaurum Triarius reum fecit. si quaeris, nulla est magno opere commota συμπάθεια, sed tamen habet aedilitas eius memoriam non ingratam et est pondus apud rusticos in patris memoria. reliqui duo plebeii sic exaequantur ut Domitius valeat amicis adiuvetur tamen non (nihil) gratissimo munere, Memmius Caesaris commendetur militibus, Pompei Gallia nitatur. quibus si non valuerit, putant fore aliquem qui comitia in adventum Caesaris detrudat, Catone praesertim absoluto.
{{pn|16.7|7}}Paccianae epistulae respondi. nunc te obiurgari patere, si iure. scribis enim in ea epistula quam C. Decimius mihi reddidit Buthroto datam in Asiam tibi eundum esse te arbitrari. mihi me hercule nihil videbatur esse in quo tantulum interesset utrum per procuratores ageres an per te ipsum, ut a tuis totiens et tam longe abesses. sed haec mallem integra re tecum egissem, profecto enim aliquid egissem. nunc reprimam susceptam obiurgationem. Vtinam valeat ad celeritatem reditus tui! ego ad te propterea minus saepe scribo quod certum non habeo ubi sis aut ubi futurus sis; huic tamen nescio cui, quod videbatur isti (te) visurus esse, putavi dandas esse litteras. tu quoniam iturum te in Asiam esse putas, ad quae tempora te exspectemus facias me certiorem velim et de Eutychide quid egeris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae K. Oct. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|17.1|1}}puto te existimare me nunc oblitum consuetudinis et instituti mei rarius ad te scribere quam solebam; sed quoniam loca et itinera tua nihil habere certi video, neque in Epirum neque Athenas neque in Asiam cuiquam nisi ad te ipsum proficiscenti dedi litteras. neque enim (eae) sunt epistulae nostrae quae si perlatae non sint nihil ea res nos offensura sit; quae tantum habent mysteriorum ut eas ne librariis quidem fere committamus, +lepidum quo excidat+.
{{pn|17.2|2}}consules flagrant infamia quod C. Memmius candidatus pactionem in senatu recitavit quam ipse (et) suus competitor Domitius cum consulibus fecisset uti ambo HS quadragena consulibus darent, si essent ipsi consules facti, nisi tris augures dedissent qui se adfuisse dicerent cum lex curiata ferretur quae lata non esset, et duo consularis qui se dicerent in ornandis provinciis consularibus scribendo adfuisse, cum omnino ne senatus quidem fuisset. haec pactio non verbis sed nominibus et perscriptionibus multorum tabulis cum esse facta diceretur, prolata a Memmio est nominibus inductis auctore Pompeio. hic Appius erat idem. nihil sane iacturae. corruerat alter et plane inquam iacebat.
{{pn|17.3|3}}Memmius autem dirempta coitione invito Calvino plane refrixerat et eo magis nunc totus iacet quod iam intellegebamus enuntiationem illam Memmi valde Caesari displicere. Messalla noster et eius Domitius competitor liberalis in populo valde fuit. nihil gratius. certi erant consules. at senatus decrevit ut tacitum iudicium ante comitia fieret ab iis consiliis quae erant (ex) omnibus sortita in singulos candidatos. Magnus timor candidatorum. sed quidam iudices, in his Opimius, Veiento, Rantius, tribunos pl. appellarunt, ne iniussu populi iudicarent. res cedit; comitia dilata ex senatus consulto dum lex de tacito iudicio ferretur. venit legi dies. Terentius intercessit. consules qui illud levi bracchio egissent rem ad senatum detulerunt. hic Abdera non tacente me. dices 'tamen tu non quiescis?' ignosce, vix possum. verum tamen quid tam ridiculum? senatus decreverat ne prius comitia haberentur quam lex lata esset; si qui intercessisset, res integra referretur. coepta ferri leviter, intercessum non invitis, res ad senatum. de ea re ita censuerunt comitia primo quoque tempore haberi esse e re publica.
{{pn|17.4|4}}Scaurus qui erat paucis diebus illis absolutus, cum ego +patrem+ eius ornatissime defendissem, obnuntiationibus per Scaevolam interpositis singulis diebus usque ad pr. Kal. i, Octobr., quo ego haec die scripsi, sublatis populo tributim domi suae satis fecerat. sed tamen etsi uberior liberalitas huius, gratior esse videbatur eorum qui occuparant. cuperem vultum videre tuum cum haec legeres; nam profecto spem habes nullam haec negotia multarum nundinarum fore. sed senatus hodie fuerat futurus, id est Kal. Octobribus; iam enim luciscit. ibi loquetur praeter Antium et Favonium libere nemo; nam Cato aegrotat. de me nihil timueris, sed tamen promitto nihil.
{{pn|17.5|5}}quid quaeris aliud? iudicia, credo. Drusus, Scaurus non fecisse videntur. tres candidati fore rei putabantur, Domitius a Memmio, Messalla a Q. Pompeio Rufo, Scaurus a Triario aut a L. Caesare. 'quid poteris' inquies 'pro iis dicere?' ne vivam (si) scio; in illis quidem tribus libris quos tu dilaudas nihil reperio.
{{pn|17.6|6}}cognosce cetera. ex fratris litteris incredibilia de Caesaris in me amore cognovi, eaque sunt ipsius Caesaris uberrimis litteris confirmata. Britannici belli exitus exspectatur; constat enim aditus insulae esse muratos mirificis molibus. etiam illud iam cognitum est neque argenti scripulum esse ullum in illa insula neque ullam spem praedae nisi ex mancipiis; ex quibus nullos puto te litteris aut musicis eruditos exspectare.
{{pn|17.7|7}}Paulus in medio foro basilicam iam paene texerat isdem antiquis columnis, illam autem quam locavit facit magnificentissimam. quid quaeris? nihil gratius illo monumento, nihil gloriosius. itaque Caesaris amici, me dico et Oppium, dirumparis licet, (in) monumentum illud quod tu tollere laudibus solebas, ut forum laxaremus et usque ad atrium libertatis explicaremus, contempsimus sexcenties HS; cum privatis non poterat transigi minore pecunia. efficiemus rem gloriosissimam; nam in campo Martio saepta tributis comitiis marmorea sumus et tecta facturi eaque cingemus excelsa porticu, ut mille passuum conficiatur. simul adiungetur huic operi villa etiam publica. dices 'quid mihi hoc monumentum proderit?' +ad quid id laboramus res Romanas+. non enim te puto de lustro quod iam desperatum est, aut de iudiciis quae lege +Coctia+ fiant quaerere.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ex. m. Oct. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|18.1|1}}+nunc ut opinionem habeas rerum+, ferendum est. quaeris ego me ut gesserim. constanter et libere. 'quid? ille' inquies ut ferebat?' humaniter meaeque dignitatis quoad mihi satis factum esset habendam sibi rationem putabat. quo modo ergo absolutus? omnino +πορπαπυμνᾳ. accusatorum incredibilis infantia, id est L. Lentuli L. f., quem fremunt omnes praevaricatum, deinde Pompei mira contentio, iudicum sordes. ac tamen xxxii condemnarunt xxxviii absolverunt. iudicia reliqua impendent.
{{pn|18.2|2}}nondum est plane expeditus. dices 'tu ergo haec quo modo fers?.' belle me hercule et in eo me valde amo. amisimus, mi Pomponi, omnem non modo sucum ac sanguinem sed etiam colorem et speciem pristinam civitatis. nulla est res publica quae delectet, in qua acquiescam. 'idne igitur' inquies 'facile fers?' id ipsum; recordor enim quam bella paulisper nobis gubernantibus civitas fuerit, quae mihi gratia relata sit. nullus dolor me angit unum omnia posse; dirumpuntur ii qui me aliquid posse doluerunt. multa mihi dant solacia, nec tamen ego de meo statu demigro, quaeque vita maxime est ad naturam ad eam me refero, ad litteras et studia nostra. dicendi laborem delectatione oratoria consolor; domus me et rura nostra delectant; non recordor unde ceciderim sed unde surrexerim. fratrem mecum et te si habebo, per me isti pedibus trahantur; vobis ἐμφιλοσοφῆσαι possum. locus ille animi nostri stomachus ubi habitabat olim concalluit; privata modo et domestica nos delectant. miram securitatem videbis; cuius plurimae me hercule partes sunt in tuo reditu; nemo enim in terris est mihi tam consentientibus sensibus.
{{pn|18.3|3}}sed accipe alia. res fluit ad interregnum, et est non nullus odor dictaturae, sermo quidem multus; qui etiam Gabinium apud timidos iudices adiuvit. candidati consulares omnes rei ambitus. accedit etiam Gabinius; quem P. Sulla non dubitans quin foris esset postularat contra dicente et nihil obtinente Torquato. sed omnes absolventur nec posthac quisquam damnabitur nisi qui hominem occiderit. hoc tamen agitur severius, itaque iudicia calent. M. Fulvius Nobilior condemnatus est; multi alii urbani ne respondent quidem.
{{pn|18.4|4}}quid aliud novi? etiam. absoluto Gabinio stomachantes alii iudices hora post Antiochum Gabinium nescio quem (e) Sopolidis pictoribus libertum, accensum Gabini, lege Papia condemnarunt. itaque dixit statim +resp. lege maiestatis ΟΥΣΟΙΜΡΙΣΑΜΑΦΙΗΙ+. Pomptinus vult a. d. iiii Non. Novembr. triumphare. huic obviam Cato et Servilius praetores ad portam et Q. Mucius tribunus. negant enim latum de imperio, et est latum hercule insulse. sed erit cum Pomptino Appius consul. Cato tamen adfirmat se vivo illum non triumphaturum. id ego puto ut multa eiusdem ad nihilum recasurum. Appius sine lege suo sumptu in Ciliciam cogitat.
{{pn|18.5|5}}A Quinto fratre et a Caesare accepi a. d. viiii Kal. Nov. xvii litteras datas a litoribus Britanniae proximis a. d. vi Kal. Octobr. confecta Britannia, obsidibus acceptis, nulla praeda, imperata tamen pecunia exercitum ex Britannia reportabant. Q. Pilius erat iam ad Caesarem profectus. tu, si aut amor in te est nostri ac tuorum aut ulla veritas aut etiam si sapis ac frui tuis commodis cogitas, adventare et prope adesse iam debes. non me hercule aequo animo te careo; te autem quid mirum, qui Dionysium tanto opere desiderem? quem quidem abs te cum dies venerit et ego et Cicero meus flagitabit. abs te proximas litteras habebam Epheso a. d. v Idus Sextil. datas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ex. m. Nov. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|19.1|1}}O exspectatas mihi tuas litteras! O gratum adventum! O constantiam promissi et fidem miram! O navigationem amandam! quam me hercule ego valde timebam recordans superioris tuae transmissionis δέρρεις. sed nisi fallor citius te quam scribis videbo. credo enim te putasse tuas mulieres in Apulia esse. quod cum secus erit, quid te Apulia moretur? num Vestorio dandi sunt dies et ille Latinus ἀττικισμὸς ex intervallo regustandus? quin tu huc advolas et invisis illius nostrae rei publicae +Germane putavi de nummis+ ante comitia tributim uno loco divisis palam, inde absolutum Gabinium dictaturam +fruere iustitio et omnium rerum licentia+.
{{pn|19.2|2}}perspice aequitatem animi mei et +ludum et contemptionem Seleucianae provinciae+ et me hercule cum Caesare suavissimam coniunctionem (haec enim me una ex hoc naufragio tabula delectat); qui quidem Quintum meum tuumque, di boni! quem ad modum tractat honore, dignitate, gratia! non secus ac si ego essem imperator. hiberna legionis eligendi optio delata commodum, ut ad me Quintus scribit. hunc tu non ames? quem igitur istorum? sed heus tu! scripseramne tibi me esse legatum Pompeio et extra urbem quidem fore ex Idibus Ianuarus? visum est hoc mihi ad multa quadrare. sed quid plura? Coram opinor reliqua, ut tu tamen aliquid exspectes. Dionysio plurimam salutem; cui quidem ego non modo servavi sed etiam aedificavi locum. quid quaeris? ad summam laetitiam meam quam ex tuo reditu capio magnus illius adventus cumulus accedet. quo die ad me venies, tu, si me amas, apud me cum tuis maneas.
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae med. mn. Sept. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|1.1|1}}Cum primum Romam veni fuitque cui recte ad te litteras darem, nihil prius faciendum mihi putavi quam ut tibi absenti de reditu nostro gratularer. cognoram enim, ut vere scribam, te in consiliis mihi dandis nec fortiorem nec prudentiorem quam me ipsum nec etiam pro praeterita mea in te observantia nimium in custodia salutis meae diligentem eundemque te, qui primis temporibus erroris nostri aut potius furoris particeps et falsi timoris socius fuisses, acerbissime discidium nostrum tulisse plurimumque operae, studi, diligentiae, laboris ad conficiendum reditum meum contulisse.
{{pn|1.2|2}}itaque hoc tibi vere adfirmo, in maxima laetitia et exoptatissima gratulatione unum ad cumulandum gaudium conspectum aut potius complexum mihi tuum defuisse. quem semel nactus si umquam dimisero ac nisi etiam praetermissos fructus tuae suavitatis praeteriti temporis omnis exegero, profecto hac restitutione fortunae me ipse non satis dignum iudicabo.
{{pn|1.3|3}}nos adhuc, in nostro statu quod difficillime reciperari posse arbitrati sumus, splendorem nostrum illum forensem et in senatu auctoritatem et apud viros bonos gratiam magis quam optaramus consecuti sumus; in re autem familiari, quae quem ad modum fracta, dissipata, direpta sit non ignoras, valde laboramus tuarumque non tam facultatum quas ego nostras esse iudico quam consiliorum ad conligendas et constituendas reliquias nostras indigemus.
{{pn|1.4|4}}nunc etsi omnia aut scripta esse a tuis arbitror aut etiam nuntiis ac rumore perlata, tamen ea scribam brevi quae te puto potissimum ex meis litteris velle cognoscere. Pr. Nonas Sextilis Dyrrachio sum profectus ipso illo die quo lex est lata de nobis. Brundisium veni Nonis Sextilibus. ibi mihi Tulliola mea fuit praesto natali suo ipso die qui casu idem natalis erat et Brundisinae coloniae et tuae vicinae salutis; quae res animadversa a multitudine summa Brundinisorum gratulatione celebrata est. ante diem iii Idus Sextilis cognovi, quom Brundisi essem, litteris Quinti mirifico studio omnium aetatum atque ordinum, incredibili concursu Italiae legem comitiis centuriatis esse perlatam. Inde a Brundisinis honestissime ornatus iter ita feci ut undique ad me cum gratulatione legati convenerint.
{{pn|1.5|5}}ad urbem ita veni ut nemo ullius ordinis homo nomenclatori notus fuerit qui mihi obviam non venerit, praeter eos inimicos quibus id ipsum, se inimicos esse, non liceret aut dissimulare aut negare. Cum venissem ad portam Capenam, gradus templorum ab infima plebe completi erant. A qua plausu maximo cum esset mihi gratulatio significata, similis et frequentia et plausus me usque ad Capitolium celebravit in foroque et in ipso Capitolio miranda multitudo fuit.
{{pn|1.6|6}}postridie in senatu qui fuit dies Nonarum Septembr. senatui gratias egimus. eo biduo cum esset annonae summa caritas et homines ad theatrum primo, deinde ad senatum concurrissent, impulsu Clodi mea opera frumenti inopiam esse clamarent, cum per eos dies senatus de annona haberetur et ad eius procurationem sermone non solum plebis verum etiam bonorum Pompeius vocaretur idque ipse cuperet multitudoque a me nominatim ut id decernerem postularet, feci et accurate sententiam dixi. Cum abessent consulares, quod tuto se negarent posse sententiam dicere, praeter Messallam et Afranium, factum est senatus consultum in meam sententiam, ut cum Pompeio ageretur ut eam rem susciperet lexque ferretur. quo senatus consulto recitato cum (populus) more hoc insulso et novo plausum meo nomine recitando dedisset, habui contionem. omnes magistratus praesentes praeter unum praetorem et duos tribunos pl. dederunt. {{pn|1.7|7}}postridie senatus frequens et omnes consulares nihil Pompeio postulanti negarunt. ille legatos quindecim cum postularet, me principem nominavit et ad omnia me alterum se fore dixit. legem consules conscripserunt qua Pompeio per quinquennium omnis potestas rei frumentariae toto orbe terrarum daretur, alteram Messius qui omnis pecuniae dat potestatem et adiungit classem et exercitum et maius imperium in provinciis quam sit eorum qui eas obtineant. illa nostra lex consularis nunc modesta videtur, haec messi non ferenda. Pompeius illam velle se dicit, familiares hanc. consulares duce Favonio fremunt; nos tacemus et eo magis quod de domo nostra nihil adhuc pontifices responderunt. qui si sustulerint religionem, aream praeclaram habebimus; superficiem consules ex senatus consulto aestimabunt; sin aliter, +demolientur, suo+ nomine locabunt, rem totam aestimabunt.
{{pn|1.8|8}}ita sunt res nostrae, Vt in secundis fluxae, ut in advorsis bonae. in re familiari valde sumus, ut scis, perturbati. praeterea sunt quaedam domestica quae litteris non committo. quin tum fratrem insigni pietate, virtute, fide praeditum sic amo ut debeo. te exspecto et oro ut matures venire eoque animo venias ut me tuo consilio egere non sinas. alterius vitae quoddam initium ordimur. iam quidam qui nos absentis defenderunt incipiunt praesentibus occulte irasci, aperte invidere. vehementer te requirimus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae in. m. Oct. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|2.1|1}}si forte rarius tibi a me quam a ceteris litterae redduntur peto a te ut id non modo neglegentiae meae sed ne occupationi quidem tribuas; quae etsi summa est, tamen nulla esse potest tanta ut interrumpat iter amoris nostri et offici mei. nam ut veni Romam, iterum nunc sum certior factus esse cui darem litteras; itaque has alteras dedi. prioribus tibi declaravi adventus noster qualis fuisset et quis esset status atque omnes res nostrae quem ad modum essent, Vt in secundis fluxae, ut in advorsis bonae.
{{pn|2.2|2}}post illas datas litteras secuta est summa contentio de domo. diximus apud pontifices pr. Kal. Octobris. Acta res est accurate a nobis et, si umquam in dicendo fuimus aliquid aut etiam si numquam alias fuimus, tum profecto doloris magnitudo vim quandam nobis dicendi dedit. itaque oratio iuventuti nostrae deberi non potest; quam tibi, etiam si non desideras, tamen mittam cito.
{{pn|2.3|3}}Cum pontifices decressent ita, SI NEQVE POPVLI IVSSV NEQVE PLEBIS SCITV IS QVI SE DEDICASSE DICERET NOMINATIM EI REI PRAEFECTVS ESSET NEQVE POPVLI IVSSV AUT PLEBIS SCITV ID FACERE IVSSVS ESSET VIDERI, POSSE SINE RELIGIONE EAM PARTEM AREAE MIHI RESTITVI, mihi facta statim est gratulatio; nemo enim dubitabat quin domus nobis esset adiudicata; cum subito ille in contionem escendit quam Appius ei dedit. nuntiat iam populo pontifices secundum se decrevisse, me autem vi conari in possessionem venire; hortatur ut se et Appium sequantur et suam libertatem vi defendant. hic cum etiam illi infimi partim admirarentur partim inriderent hominis amentiam, ego statuerem illuc non accedere nisi cum consules ex senatus consulto porticum Catuli restituendam locassent Kal Octobr. habetur senatus frequens.
{{pn|2.4|4}}adhibentur omnes pontifices qui erant senatores. A quibus Marcellinus, qui erat cupidissimus mei, sententiam primus rogatus quaesivit quid essent in decernendo secuti. tum M. Lucullus de omnium conlegarum sententia respondit religionis iudices pontifices fuisse, legis esse senatum; se et conlegas suos de religione statuisse, in senatu de lege statuturos cum senatu. itaque sub quisque horum loco sententiam rogatus multa secundum causam nostram disputavit. Cum ad Clodium ventum est, cupiit diem consumere neque ei finis est factus, sed tamen cum horas tris fere dixisset, odio et strepitu senatus coactus est aliquando perorare. Cum fieret senatus consultum in sententiam Marcellini omnibus praeter unum adsentientibus, Serranus (intercessit. de) intercessione statim ambo consules referre coeperunt. Cum sententiae gravissimae dicerentur, senatui placere mihi domum restitui, porticum Catuli locari, auctoritatem ordinis ab omnibus magistratibus defendi si quae vis esset facta, senatum existimaturum eius opera factum esse qui senatus consulto intercessisset, Serranus pertimuit et Cornicinus ad suam veterem fabulam rediit; abiecta toga se ad generi pedes abiecit. ille noctem sibi postulavit. non concedebant, reminiscebantur enim Kal. Ianuar. vix tandem tibi de mea voluntate concessum est.
{{pn|2.5|5}}postridie senatus consultum factum est id quod ad te misi. deinde consules porticum Catuli restituendam locarunt; illam porticum redemptores statim sunt demoliti libentissimis omnibus. nobis superficiem aedium consules de consili sententia aestimarunt sestertio viciens, cetera valde inliberaliter, Tusculanam villam quingentis milibus, Formianum HS ducentis quinquaginta milibus. quae aestimatio non modo vehementer ab optimo quoque sed etiam a plebe reprehenditur. dices: 'quid igitur causae fuit?' dicunt illi quidem pudorem meum, quod neque negarim neque vehementius postularim; sed non est id; nam hoc quidem etiam profuisset; verum iidem, mi T. Pomponi, iidem inquam illi quos ne tu quidem ignoras qui mihi pinnas inciderant nolunt easdem renasci. sed, ut spero, iam renascuntur. tu modo ad nos veni; quod vereor ne tardius interventu Varronis tui nostrique facias.
{{pn|2.6|6}}quoniam acta quae sint habes, de reliqua nostra cogitatione cognosce. ego me a Pompeio legari ita sum passus ut nulla re impedirer. quod nisi vellem mihi esset integrum ut, si comitia censorum proximi consules haberent, petere possem, votivam legationem sumpsissem prope omnium fanorum, lucorum; sic enim nostrae rationes utilitatis meae postulabant. sed volui meam potestatem esse vel petendi vel ineunte aestate exeundi et interea me esse in oculis civium de me optime meritorum non alienum putavi.
{{pn|2.7|7}}ac forensium quidem rerum haec nostra consilia sunt, domesticarum autem valde impedita. domus aedificatur, scis quo sumptu, qua molestia; reficitur Formianum, quod ego nec relinquere possum nec videre; Tusculanum proscripsi; suburbano facile careo. amicorum benignitas exhausta est in ea re quae nihil habuit praeter dedecus, quod sensisti tu absens (nos) praesentes; quorum studiis ego et copiis, si esset per meos defensores licitum, facile essem omnia consecutus. quo in genere nunc vehementer laboratur. cetera quae me sollicitant μυστικώτερα sunt. amamur a fratre et a filia. (te) exspectamus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae vi K. Dec. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|3.1|1}}avere te certo scio cum scire quid hic agatur tum mea a me scire, non quo certiora sint ea quae in oculis omnium geruntur si a me scribantur quam cum ab aliis aut scribantur tibi aut nuntientur, sed ut perspicias ex meis litteris quo animo ea feram quae geruntur et qui sit hoc tempore aut mentis meae sensus aut omnino vitae status.
{{pn|3.2|2}}armatis hominibus ante diem tertium Nonas Novembris expulsi sunt fabri de area nostra, disturbata porticus Catuli quae ex senatus consulto consulum locatione reficiebatur et ad tectum paene pervenerat, Quinti fratris domus primo fracta coniectu lapidum ex area nostra, deinde inflammata iussu Clodi, inspectante urbe coniectis ignibus, magna querela et gemitu non dicam bonorum, qui nescio an nulli sint, sed plane hominum omnium. ille demens ruere, post hunc vero furorem nihil nisi caedem inimicorum cogitare, vicatim ambire, servis aperte spem libertatis ostendere. etenim antea cum iudicium tollebat, habebat ille quidem difficilem manifestamque causam sed tamen causam; poterat infitiari, poterat in alios derivare, poterat etiam aliquid iure factum defendere; post has ruinas, incendia, rapinas desertus a suis vix iam Decimum designatorem, vix Gellium retinet, servorum consiliis utitur, videt, si omnis quos vult palam occiderit, nihilo suam causam difficiliorem quam adhuc sit in iudicio futuram. {{pn|3.3|3}}itaque ante diem tertium Idus Novembris, cum sacra via descenderem, insecutus est me cum suis. clamor, lapides, fustes, gladii, haec improvisa omnia. discessimus in vestibulum Tetti Damionis. qui erant mecum facile operas aditu prohibuerunt. ipse occidi potuit, sed ego diaeta curare incipio, chirurgiae taedet. ille omnium vocibus cum se non ad iudicium sed ad supplicium praesens trudi videret, omnis Catilinas Acidinos postea reddidit. nam Milonis domum, eam quae (est in) Cermalo, pr. Idus Novembr. expugnare et incendere ita conatus est ut palam hora quinta cum scutis homines eductis gladiis, alios cum accensis facibus adduxerit. ipse domum P. Sullae pro castris sibi ad eam impugnationem sumpserat. tum ex Anniana Milonis domo Q. Flaccus eduxit viros acris; occidit homines ex omni latrocinio Clodiano notissimos, ipsum cupivit, sed ille se in interiora aedium Sullae. exin senatus postridie Idus. domi Clodius. Egregius Marcellinus, omnes acres. Metellus calumnia dicendi tempus exemit adiuvante Appio, etiam hercule familiari tuo, de cuius constantia virtute (tuae) verissimae litterae. Sestius furere. ille postea, si comitia sua non fierent, urbi minari. (Milo) proposita Marcellini sententia, quam ille de scripto ita dixerat ut totam nostram causam areae, incendiorum, periculi mei iudicio complecteretur eaque omnia comitiis anteferret, proscripsit se per omnis dies comitialis de caelo servaturum.
{{pn|3.4|4}}contiones turbulentae Metelli, temerariae Appi, furiosissimae Publi haec tamen summa, nisi Milo in campo obnuntiasset, comitia futura. ante diem xii Kal. Decembr. Milo ante mediam noctem cum, magna manu in campum venit. Clodius cum haberet fugitivorum delectas copias, in campum ire non est ausus. Milo permansit ad meridiem mirifica hominum laetitia summa cum gloria. contentio fratrum trium turpis, fracta vis, contemptus furor. Metellus tamen postulat ut sibi postero die in foro obnuntietur; nihil esse quod in campum nocte veniretur; se hora prima in comitio fore. itaque ante diem xi Kal. in comitium Milo de nocte venit. Metellus cum prima luce furtim in campum itineribus prope deviis currebat; adsequitur inter lucos hominem Milo, obnuntiat. ille se recepit magno et turpi Q. Flacci convicio. ante diem x Kal. nundinae. {{pn|3.5|5}}contio biduo nulla. ante diem viii Kal. haec ego scribebam hora noctis nona. Milo campum iam tenebat. Marcellus candidatus ita stertebat ut ego vicinus audirem. Clodi vestibulum vacuum sane mihi nuntiabatur, pauci pannosi, linea lanterna. meo consilio omnia illi fieri querebantur ignari quantum in illo heroe esset animi, quantum etiam consili. miranda virtus est. nova quaedam divina mitto; sed haec summa est. comitia fore non arbitror; reum Publium, nisi ante occisus erit, fore a Milone puto; si se in turba ei iam obtulerit, occisum iri ab ipso Milone video. non dubitat facere, prae se fert; casum illum nostrum non extimescit. numquam enim cuiusquam invidi et perfidi consilio est usurus nec inerti nobili crediturus.
{{pn|3.6|6}}nos animo dumtaxat vigemus etiam magis (quam) cum florebamus, re familiari comminuti sumus. Quinti fratris tamen liberalitati pro facultatibus nostris, ne omnino exhaustus essem, illo recusante subsidiis amicorum respondemus. quid consili de omni nostro statu capiamus te absente nescimus. qua re adpropera.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae iii K. Febr. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|4}}periucundus mihi Cincius fuit ante diem iii Kal. Febr. ante lucem; dixit enim mihi te esse in Italia seseque ad te pueros mittere. quos sine meis litteris ire nolui, non quo haberem quod tibi, praesertim iam prope praesenti, scriberem sed ut hoc ipsum significarem, mihi tuum adventum suavissimum exspectatissimumque esse. qua re advola ad nos eo animo ut nos ames, te amari scias. cetera coram agemus. haec properantes scripsimus. quo die venies, utique cum tuis apud me sis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. in Antiati m. April. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|5.1|1}}ain tu? me existimas ab ullo malle mea legi probarique quam a te? cur igitur cuiquam misi prius? Urgebar ab eo ad quem misi, et non habebam exemplar. quid? etiam (dudum enim circumrodo quod devorandum est) subturpicula mihi videbatur esse παλινῳδία. sed valeant recta, vera, honesta consilia. non est credibile quae sit perfidia in istis principibus, ut volunt esse et ut essent si quicquam haberent fidei. senseram noram inductus, relictus, proiectus ab iis. tamen hoc eram animo ut cum iis in re publica consentirem. idem erant qui fuerant. vix aliquando te auctore resipui. {{pn|5.2|2}}dices ea te monuisse, suasisse a quae facerem, non etiam ut scriberem. ego me hercule mihi necessitatem volui imponere huius novae coniunctionis, ne qua mihi liceret labi ad illos qui etiam tum cum misereri mei debent non desinunt invidere. sed tamen modici fuimus ὑποθέσει, ut scripsi. erimus uberiores si et ille libenter accipiet, et ii subringentur qui villam me moleste ferunt habere quae Catuli fuerat, a Vettio emisse non cogitant; qui domum negant oportuisse me aedificare, vendere aiunt oportuisse. sed quid ad hoc, si, quibus sententiis dixi quod et ipsi probarent, laetati sunt tamen me contra Pompei voluntatem dixisse? finis sit. quoniam qui nihil possunt ii me nolunt amare, demus operam ut ab iis qui a possunt diligamur. dices "vellem iam pridem." scio te voluisse et me Usinum germanum fuisse. sed iam tempus est me ipsum a me amari, quando ab illis nullo modo possum. domum meam quod crebro invisis est mihi valde gratum. viaticum Crassipes praeripit. tu de via recta in hortos. videtur commodius ad te; postridie scilicet; quid enim tua? sed viderimus. bibliothecam mihi tui pinxerunt constructione et sittybis. Eos velim laudes.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Antiati m. Apr. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|6.1|1}}de Lentulo scilicet sic fero ut debeo. virum bonum et magnum hominem et in summa magnitudine animi multa humanitate temperatum perdidimus nosque malo solacio sed non nullo tamen consolamur quod ipsius vicem minime dolemus non ut Saufeius et vestri sed me hercule quia sic amabat patriam ut mihi aliquo deorum beneficio videatur ex eius incendio esse ereptus. nam quid foedius nostra vita, praecipue mea? nam tu quidem, etsi es natura πολιτικός, tamen nullam habes propriam servitutem, communi frueris nomine;
{{pn|6.2|2}}ego vero qui, si loquor de re publica quod oportet, insanus, si quod opus est, servus existimor, si taceo, oppressus et captus, quo dolore esse debeo? quo sum scilicet, hoc etiam acriore quod ne dolere quidem possum ut non ingratus videar. quid si cessare libeat et in oti portum confugere? nequiquam; immo etiam in bellum et in castra. ergo erimus ὀπαδοί qui ταγοὶ esse noluimus? sic faciendum est, tibi enim ipsi (quoi utinam semper paruissem!) sic video placere. reliquum iam est Σπάρταν ἔλαχες, ταύταν κόσμει non me hercule possum et Philoxeno ignosco qui reduci in carcerem maluit. verum tamen id ipsum mecum in his locis commentor ut ista (ne) improbem, idque tu cum una erimus confirmabis. A te litteras crebro ad me scribi video sed omnis uno tempore accepi. quae res etiam auxit dolorem meum. casu enim trinas ante legeram quibus meliuscule Lentulo .esse scriptum erat. ecce quartae fulmen! sed ille, ut scripsi, non miser, nos vero ferrei.
{{pn|6.3|3}}quod me admones ut scribam illa Hortensiana, in alia incidi non immemor istius mandati tui; sed me hercule (in) incipiendo refugi ne qui videor stulte illius amici intemperiem non tulisse rursus stulte iniuriam illius faciam inlustrem si quid scripsero, et simul ne βαθύτης mea quae in agendo apparuit in scribendo sit occultior et aliquid satisfactio levitatis habere videatur.
{{pn|6.4|4}}sed viderimus; tu modo quam saepissime ad me aliquid. epistulam Lucceio nunc quam misi, qua meas res ut scribat rogo, fac ut ab eo sumas (valde bella est) eumque ut adproperet adhorteris et quod mihi se ita facturum rescripsit agas gratias, domum nostram quoad poteris invisas, Vestorio aliquid significes. valde enim est in me liberalis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Arpinati m. Apr. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|7.1|1}}nihil εὐκαιρότερον epistula tua quae me sollicitum de Quinto nostro, puero optimo, valde levavit. venerat horis duabus ante Chaerippus, mera monstra nuntiarat. de Apollonio quod scribis, qui illi di irati! homini Graeco qui conturbat atque idem putat sibi licere quod equitibus Romanis. nam Terentius suo iure. {{pn|7.2|2}}de Metello οὐχ ὁσίη φθιμένοισιν, sed tamen multis annis civis nemo erat mortuus qui quidem . . . tibi nummi meo periculo sint. quid enim vereris? quemcumque heredem fecit, nisi Publium fecit, virum fecit, non improbe, quamquam fuit ipse. qua re in hoc thecam nummariam non retexeris, in aliis eris cautior.
{{pn|7.3|3}}mea mandata de domo curabis, praesidia locabis, Milonem admonebis. Arpinatium fremitus est incredibilis de Laterio. quid quaeris? equidem dolui; ὁ δὲ οὐκ ἐμπάζετο μύθων quod superest, etiam puerum Ciceronem curabis et amabis, ut facis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Antiati m. Apr. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|8.1|1}}multa me in epistula tua delectarunt sed nihil magis quam patina tyrotarichi. nam de raudusculo quod scribis, μήπω μέγ᾽ εἴπῃς πρὶν τελευτήσαντ᾽ ἴδῃς aedificati tibi in agris nihil reperio. in oppido est quiddam, de quo est dubium sitne venale, ac proximum quidem nostris aedibus. hoc scito, Antium Buthrotum esse Romae, ut Corcyrae illud tuum (Antium). nihil quietius, nihil alsius, nihil amoenius. Εἴη μοὶ οὕτος φίλος οἶκος.
{{pn|8.2|2}}postea vero, quam Tyrannio mihi libros disposuit, mens addita videtur meis aedibus. qua quidem in re mirifica opera Dionysi et Menophili tui fuit. nihil venustius quam illa tua pegmata, postquam mi sillybis libros inlustrarunt. vale. et scribas ad me velim de gladiatoribus, sed ita bene si rem gerunt; non quaero, male si se gesserunt.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Neapoli iv K. Mai a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|9.1|1}}sane velim scire num censum impediant tribuni diebus vitiandis (est enim hic rumor) totaque de censura quid agant, quid cogitent. nos hic cum Pompeio fuimus. multa mecum de re publica sane sibi displicens, ut loquebatur (sic est enim in hoc homine dicendum), Syriam spernens, Hispaniam iactans, hic quoque, ut loquebatur; et opinor usque quaque, de hoc cum dicemus, sit hoc quasi καὶ τόδε Φωκυλίδου. tibi etiam gratias agebat quod signa componenda suscepisses; in nos vero suavissime hercule est effusus. venit etiam ad me in Cumanum a se. nihil minus velle mihi visus est quam Messallam consulatum petere. de quo ipso si quid scis velim scire.
{{pn|9.2|2}}quod Lucceio scribis te nostram gloriam commendaturum et aedificium nostrum quod crebro invisis, gratum. Quintus frater ad me scripsit se, quoniam Ciceronem suavissimum tecum haberes, ad te Nonis Maias venturum. )ego me de Cumano movi ante diem v Kal. Maias. eo die Neapoli apud Paetum. ante diem IIII Kal. Maias iens in Pompeianum bene mane haec scripsi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cttn:ano ix K. Mat a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|10.1|1}}Puteolis magnus est rumor Ptolomaeum esse in regno. si quid habes certius velim scire. ego hic pascor bibliotheca Fausti. fortasse tu putabas his rebus Puteolanis et Lucrinensibus. ne ista quidem desunt. sed me hercule (ut) a ceteris oblectationibus deseror [et] voluptatum propter rem publicam, sic litteris sustentor et recreor maloque in illa tua sedecula quam habes sub imagine Aristotelis sedere quam in istorum sella curuli tecumque apud te ambulare quam cum eo quocum video esse ambulandum. sed de illa ambulatione fors viderit aut si qui est qui curet deus;
{{pn|10.2|2}}nostram ambulationem et Laconicum eaque quae Cyrea sint velim quod poterit invisas et urgeas Philotimum ut properet, ut possim tibi aliquid in eo genere respondere. Pompeius in Cumanum parilibus venit. misit ad me statim qui salutem nuntiaret. ad eum postridie mane vadebam, cum haec scripsi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cumano a. d. v. K. Mai. a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|11.1|1}}delectarunt me epistulae tuae quas accepi uno tempore duas ante diem v Kal. Perge reliqua. gestio scire ista omnia. etiam illud cuius modi sit velim perspicias; potes a Demetrio. dixit mihi Pompeius Crassum a se in Albano exspectari ante diem iiii Kal.; is cum venisset, Romam (eum) et se statim venturos ut rationes cum publicanis putarent. quaesivi gladiatoribusne. respondit ante quam inducerentur. id cuius modi sit aut nunc si scies aut cum is Romam venerit ad me mittas velim.
{{pn|11.2|2}}nos hic voramus litteras cum homine mirifico (ita me hercule sentio) Dionysio qui te omnisque vos salutat. Οὐδὲν γλυκύτερον ἢ πᾶν εἰδέναι. qua re ut homini curioso ita perscribe ad me quid primus dies, quid secundus, quid censores, quid Appius, quid illa populi Appuleia; denique etiam quid a te fiat ad me velim scribas. non enim, ut vere loquamur, tam rebus novis quam tuis litteris delector. ego mecum praeter Dionysium eduxi neminem nec metuo tamen ne mihi sermo desit. +abs te opere+ delector. tu Lucceio nostrum librum dabis. Demetri Magnetis tibi mitto, statim ut sit qui a te mihi epistulam referat.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. um Mai. a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|12}}Egnatius Romae est. sed ego cum eo de re Halimeti vehementer Anti egi. graviter se acturum cum Aquilio confirmavit. videbis ergo hominem si voles. Macroni vix videor praesto esse (posse); Idibus enim auctionem Larini video et biduum praeterea. id tu, quoniam Macronem tanti facis, ignoscas mihi velim. sed si me diligis, postridie Kal. cena apud me cum Pilia. prorsus id facies. Kalendis cogito in hortis Crassipedis quasi in deversorio cenare. facio fraudem senatus consulto. Inde domum cenatus, ut sim mane praesto Miloni. ibi te igitur videbo et permanebo. domus te nostra tota salutat.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Tusculano m. Nov. post xvii K. Dec. a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|13.1|1}}nos in Tusculanum venisse a. d. xvii Kal. Dec. video te scire. ibi Dionysius nobis praesto fuit. Romae a. d. xiiii Kal. volumus esse. quid dico 'volumus'? immo vero cogimur. Milonis nuptiae. comitiorum non nulla opinio est. ego, ut sit rata, afuisse me in altercationibus quas in senatu factas audio fero non moleste. nam aut defendissem quod non placeret aut defuissem cui non oporteret. sed me hercule velim res istas et praesentem statum rei publicae et quo animo consules ferant hunc σκυλμόν scribas ad me quantum pote. valde sum ὀξύπεινος et, si quaeris, omnia mihi sunt suspecta.
{{pn|13.2|2}}Crassum quidem nostrum minore dignitate aiunt profectum paludatum quam olim aequalem eius L. Paulum, item iterum consulem. O hominem nequam! de libris oratoriis factum est a me diligenter. diu multumque in manibus fuerunt. describas licet. illud (etiam atque) etiam te rogo, τὴν παροῦσαν κατάστασιν τυπωδῶς, ne istuc hospes veniam.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cumano m. Mai. post vi Id. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|14.1|1}}Vestorius noster me per litteras fecit certiorem te Roma a. d. vi Idus Maias putari profectum esse tardius quam dixeras quod minus valuisses. si iam melius vales, vehementer gaudeo. velim domum ad te scribas ut mihi tui libri pateant non secus ac si ipse adesses cum ceteri tum Varronis. est enim mihi utendum quibusdam rebus ex his libris ad eos quos in manibus habeo; quos, ut spero, tibi valde probabo.
{{pn|14.2|2}}tu velim si quid forte novi habes, maxime a Quinto fratre, deinde a C. Caesare, et si quid forte de comitiis, de re publica (soles enim tu haec festive odorari), scribas ad me; si nihil habebis, tamen scribas aliquid. numquam enim mihi tua epistula aut intempestiva aut loquax visa est. maxime autem rogo rebus tuis totoque itinere ex sententia confecto nos quam primum revisas. Dionysium iube salvere. cura ut valeas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae vi K. Sext. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|15.1|1}}de Eutychide gratum qui vetere praenomine, novo nomine T. erit Caecilius, ut est ex me et ex te iunctus Dionysius M. Pomponius. valde me hercule mihi gratum est Eutychidem tuam erga me benevolentiam cognosse (et) suam illam in meo dolore συμπάθειαν neque tum mihi obscuram neque post ingratam fuisse.
{{pn|15.2|2}}iter Asiaticum tuum puto tibi suscipiendum fuisse; numquam enim tu sine iustissima causa tam longe a tot tuis et hominibus et rebus carissimis et suavissimis abesse voluisses. sed humanitatem tuam amoremque in tuos reditus celeritas declarabit. sed vereor ne lepore suo detineat diutius praetor Clodius et homo pereruditus, ut aiunt, et nunc quidem deditus Graecis litteris Pituanius. sed si vis homo esse, recipe te ad nos ad quod tempus confirmasti. Cum illis tamen cum salvi venerint Romae vivere licebit. avere te scribis accipere aliquid a me litterarum.
{{pn|15.3|3}}dedi ac multis quidem de rebus ἡμερολεγδὸν perscripta omnia; sed ut conicio, quoniam mihi non videris in Epiro diu fuisse, redditas tibi non arbitror. genus autem mearum ad te quidem litterarum eius modi fere est ut non libeat cuiquam dare nisi de quo exploratum sit tibi eum redditurum.
{{pn|15.4|4}}nunc Romanas res accipe. A. d. iiii Nonas Quintilis Sufenas et Cato absoluti, Procilius condemnatus. ex quo intellectum est τρισαρειοπαγίτας ambitum, comitia, interregnum, maiestatem, totam denique rem publicam flocci non facere, [debemus] patrem familias domi suae occidi nolle, neque tamen id ipsum abunde; nam absolverunt xxii, condemnarunt xxviii. Publius sane diserto epilogo criminans (me) mentis iudicum commoverat. Hortalus in ea causa fuit cuius modi solet. nos verbum nullum; verita est enim pusilla, quae nunc laborat, ne animum Publi offenderem.
{{pn|15.5|5}}his rebus actis Reatini me ad sua Τέμπη duxerunt ut agerem causam contra Interamnatis apud consulem et decem legatos, quod lacus Velinus a M'. Curio emissus interciso monte in Nar defluit; ex quo est illa siccata et umida tamen modice Rosia. vixi cum Axio, qui etiam me ad septem aquas duxit.
{{pn|15.6|6}}redii Romam Fontei causa a. d. vii Idus Quint. veni in spectaculum primum magno et aequabili plausu. sed hoc ne curaris; ego ineptus qui scripserim. deinde Antiphonti operam. is erat ante manu missus quam productus. ne diutius pendeas, palmam tulit; sed nihil tam pusillum, nihil tam sine voce, nihil tam . . . verum haec tu tecum habeto. in Andromacha tamen maior fuit quam Astyanax, in ceteris parem habuit neminem. quaeris nunc de Arbuscula; valde placuit. ludi magnifici et grati; venatio in aliud tempus dilata.
{{pn|15.7|7}}sequere nunc me in campum. ardet ambitus; σῆμα δέ τοι ἐρέω; faenus ex triente Idibus Quintilibus factum erat bessibus. dices "istuc quidem non moleste fero." O virum! o civem! Memmium Caesaris omnes opes confirmant. Cum eo Domitium consules iunxerunt, qua pactione epistulae committere non audeo. Pompeius fremit, queritur, Scauro studet, sed utrum fronte an mente dubitatur. Ἐξοχὴ in nullo est; pecunia omnium dignitatem exaequat. Messalla languet, non quo aut animus desit aut amici sed coitio consulum (et) Pompeius obsunt. ea comitia puto fore ut ducantur. tribunicii candidati iurarunt se arbitrio Catonis petituros. apud eum HS quingena deposuerunt ut qui a Catone damnatus esset id perderet et competitoribus tribueretur.
{{pn|15.8|8}}haec ego pridie scribebam quam comitia fore putabantur. sed ad te, quinto Kal. Sextil. si facta erunt et tabellarius non erit profectus, tota comitia perscribam. quae si, ut putantur, gratuita fuerint, plus unus Cato potuerit quam (omnes leges) omnesque iudices.
{{pn|15.9|9}}Messius defendebatur a nobis de legatione revocatus; nam eum Caesari legarat Appius. Servilius edixit ut adesset. tribus habet Pomptinam, Velinam, Maeciam. pugnatur acriter; agitur tamen satis. deinde me expedio ad Drusum, inde ad Scaurum. parantur orationibus indices gloriosi. fortasse accedent etiam consules designati. in quibus si Scaurus non fuerit, in hoc iudicio valde laborabit. {{pn|15.10|10}}ex Quinti fratris litteris suspicor iam eum esse in Britannia. suspenso animo exspecto quid agat. illud quidem sumus adepti, quod multis et magnis indiciis possumus iudicare, nos Caesari et carissimos et iucundissimos esse. Dionysium velim salvere iubeas et eum roges et hortere ut quam primum veniat, ut possit Ciceronem meum atque etiam me ipsum erudire.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ex. m. Iun. aut in. Quint. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|16.1|1}}occupationum mearum vel hoc signum erit quod epistula librari manu est. de epistularum frequentia te nihil accuso, sed pleraeque tantum modo mihi nuntiabant ubi esses, vel etiam significabant recte esse, quod erant abs te. quo in genere maxime delectarunt duae fere eodem tempore abs te Buthroto datae. scire enim volebam te commode navigasse. sed haec epistularum frequentia non tam ubertate sua quam crebritate delectavit. illa fuit gravis et plena rerum quam mihi M. Paccius, hospes tuus, reddidit. ad eam rescribam igitur et hoc quidem primum. paccio ratione et verbis et re ostendi quid tua commendatio ponderis haberet. itaque in intimis est meis, cum antea notus non fuisset.
{{pn|16.2|2}}nunc pergam ad cetera. Varro, de quo ad me scribis, includetur in aliquem locum, si modo erit locus. sed nosti genus dialogorum meorum. Vt in oratoriis, quos tu in caelum fers, non potuit mentio fieri cuiusquam ab iis qui disputant, nisi eius qui illis notus aut auditus esset, ita hanc ego de re publica quam institui disputationem in Africani personam et Phili et Laeli (et) Manili contuli. adiunxi adulescentis Q. Tuberonem, P. Rutilium, duo Laeli generos, Scaevolam et Fannium. itaque cogitabam, quoniam in singulis libris utor prohoemiis ut Aristoteles in iis quos ἐξωτερικοὺς vocat, aliquid efficere ut non sine causa istum appellarem; id quod intellego tibi placere. Vtinam modo conata efficere possim! rem enim, quod te non fugit, magnam complexus sum et gravem et plurimi oti, quo ego maxime egeo.
{{pn|16.3|3}}quod in iis libris quos laudas personam desideras Scaevolae, non eam temere dimovi sed feci idem quod in πολιτείᾳ deus ille noster Plato. Cum in Piraeum Socrates venisset ad Cephalum, locupletem et festivum senem, quoad primus ille sermo habetur, adest in disputando senex, deinde cum ipse quoque commodissime locutus esset, ad rem divinam dicit se velle discedere neque postea revertitur. credo Platonem vix putasse satis consonum fore si hominem id aetatis in tam longo sermone diutius retinuisset. multo ego magis hoc mihi cavendum putavi in Scaevola, qui et aetate et valetudine erat ea qua eum esse meministi et iis honoribus ut vix satis decorum videretur eum pluris dies esse in Crassi Tusculano. et erat primi libri sermo non alienus a Scaevolae studiis, reliqui libri τεχνολογίαν habent, ut scis. huic ioculatorem senem ilium, ut noras, interesse sane nolui.
{{pn|16.4|4}}de re Piliae quod scribis erit mihi curae. etenim est luculenta res Aureliani, ut scribis, indiciis. et in eo me etiam Tulliae meae venditabo. Vestorio non desum. gratum enim tibi id esse intellego et ut ille intellegat curo. sed scis qui? Cum habeat duo facilis nihil difficilius.
{{pn|16.5|5}}nunc ad ea (quae) quaeris de C. Catone. lege Iunia et Licinia scis absolutum; Fufia ego tibi nuntio absolutum iri neque patronis suis tam libentibus quam accusatoribus. is tamen et mecum et cum Milone in gratiam rediit. Drusus reus est factus a Lucretio. iudicibus reiciendis (dies est dictus) a. d. v Non. Quint. de Procilio rumores non boni, sed iudicia nosti. Hirrus cum Domitio in gratia est. senatus consultum quod hi consules de provinciis fecerunt QVICVMQVE POSTHAC — non mihi videtur esse valiturum.
{{pn|16.6|6}}de Messalla quod quaeris, quid scribam nescio. numquam ego vidi tam paris candidatos. Messallae copias nosti. Scaurum Triarius reum fecit. si quaeris, nulla est magno opere commota συμπάθεια, sed tamen habet aedilitas eius memoriam non ingratam et est pondus apud rusticos in patris memoria. reliqui duo plebeii sic exaequantur ut Domitius valeat amicis adiuvetur tamen non (nihil) gratissimo munere, Memmius Caesaris commendetur militibus, Pompei Gallia nitatur. quibus si non valuerit, putant fore aliquem qui comitia in adventum Caesaris detrudat, Catone praesertim absoluto.
{{pn|16.7|7}}Paccianae epistulae respondi. nunc te obiurgari patere, si iure. scribis enim in ea epistula quam C. Decimius mihi reddidit Buthroto datam in Asiam tibi eundum esse te arbitrari. mihi me hercule nihil videbatur esse in quo tantulum interesset utrum per procuratores ageres an per te ipsum, ut a tuis totiens et tam longe abesses. sed haec mallem integra re tecum egissem, profecto enim aliquid egissem. nunc reprimam susceptam obiurgationem. Vtinam valeat ad celeritatem reditus tui! ego ad te propterea minus saepe scribo quod certum non habeo ubi sis aut ubi futurus sis; huic tamen nescio cui, quod videbatur isti (te) visurus esse, putavi dandas esse litteras. tu quoniam iturum te in Asiam esse putas, ad quae tempora te exspectemus facias me certiorem velim et de Eutychide quid egeris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae K. Oct. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|17.1|1}}puto te existimare me nunc oblitum consuetudinis et instituti mei rarius ad te scribere quam solebam; sed quoniam loca et itinera tua nihil habere certi video, neque in Epirum neque Athenas neque in Asiam cuiquam nisi ad te ipsum proficiscenti dedi litteras. neque enim (eae) sunt epistulae nostrae quae si perlatae non sint nihil ea res nos offensura sit; quae tantum habent mysteriorum ut eas ne librariis quidem fere committamus, +lepidum quo excidat+.
{{pn|17.2|2}}consules flagrant infamia quod C. Memmius candidatus pactionem in senatu recitavit quam ipse (et) suus competitor Domitius cum consulibus fecisset uti ambo HS quadragena consulibus darent, si essent ipsi consules facti, nisi tris augures dedissent qui se adfuisse dicerent cum lex curiata ferretur quae lata non esset, et duo consularis qui se dicerent in ornandis provinciis consularibus scribendo adfuisse, cum omnino ne senatus quidem fuisset. haec pactio non verbis sed nominibus et perscriptionibus multorum tabulis cum esse facta diceretur, prolata a Memmio est nominibus inductis auctore Pompeio. hic Appius erat idem. nihil sane iacturae. corruerat alter et plane inquam iacebat.
{{pn|17.3|3}}Memmius autem dirempta coitione invito Calvino plane refrixerat et eo magis nunc totus iacet quod iam intellegebamus enuntiationem illam Memmi valde Caesari displicere. Messalla noster et eius Domitius competitor liberalis in populo valde fuit. nihil gratius. certi erant consules. at senatus decrevit ut tacitum iudicium ante comitia fieret ab iis consiliis quae erant (ex) omnibus sortita in singulos candidatos. Magnus timor candidatorum. sed quidam iudices, in his Opimius, Veiento, Rantius, tribunos pl. appellarunt, ne iniussu populi iudicarent. res cedit; comitia dilata ex senatus consulto dum lex de tacito iudicio ferretur. venit legi dies. Terentius intercessit. consules qui illud levi bracchio egissent rem ad senatum detulerunt. hic Abdera non tacente me. dices 'tamen tu non quiescis?' ignosce, vix possum. verum tamen quid tam ridiculum? senatus decreverat ne prius comitia haberentur quam lex lata esset; si qui intercessisset, res integra referretur. coepta ferri leviter, intercessum non invitis, res ad senatum. de ea re ita censuerunt comitia primo quoque tempore haberi esse e re publica.
{{pn|17.4|4}}Scaurus qui erat paucis diebus illis absolutus, cum ego +patrem+ eius ornatissime defendissem, obnuntiationibus per Scaevolam interpositis singulis diebus usque ad pr. Kal. i, Octobr., quo ego haec die scripsi, sublatis populo tributim domi suae satis fecerat. sed tamen etsi uberior liberalitas huius, gratior esse videbatur eorum qui occuparant. cuperem vultum videre tuum cum haec legeres; nam profecto spem habes nullam haec negotia multarum nundinarum fore. sed senatus hodie fuerat futurus, id est Kal. Octobribus; iam enim luciscit. ibi loquetur praeter Antium et Favonium libere nemo; nam Cato aegrotat. de me nihil timueris, sed tamen promitto nihil.
{{pn|17.5|5}}quid quaeris aliud? iudicia, credo. Drusus, Scaurus non fecisse videntur. tres candidati fore rei putabantur, Domitius a Memmio, Messalla a Q. Pompeio Rufo, Scaurus a Triario aut a L. Caesare. 'quid poteris' inquies 'pro iis dicere?' ne vivam (si) scio; in illis quidem tribus libris quos tu dilaudas nihil reperio.
{{pn|17.6|6}}cognosce cetera. ex fratris litteris incredibilia de Caesaris in me amore cognovi, eaque sunt ipsius Caesaris uberrimis litteris confirmata. Britannici belli exitus exspectatur; constat enim aditus insulae esse muratos mirificis molibus. etiam illud iam cognitum est neque argenti scripulum esse ullum in illa insula neque ullam spem praedae nisi ex mancipiis; ex quibus nullos puto te litteris aut musicis eruditos exspectare.
{{pn|17.7|7}}Paulus in medio foro basilicam iam paene texerat isdem antiquis columnis, illam autem quam locavit facit magnificentissimam. quid quaeris? nihil gratius illo monumento, nihil gloriosius. itaque Caesaris amici, me dico et Oppium, dirumparis licet, (in) monumentum illud quod tu tollere laudibus solebas, ut forum laxaremus et usque ad atrium libertatis explicaremus, contempsimus sexcenties HS; cum privatis non poterat transigi minore pecunia. efficiemus rem gloriosissimam; nam in campo Martio saepta tributis comitiis marmorea sumus et tecta facturi eaque cingemus excelsa porticu, ut mille passuum conficiatur. simul adiungetur huic operi villa etiam publica. dices 'quid mihi hoc monumentum proderit?' +ad quid id laboramus res Romanas+. non enim te puto de lustro quod iam desperatum est, aut de iudiciis quae lege +Coctia+ fiant quaerere.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ex. m. Oct. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|18.1|1}}+nunc ut opinionem habeas rerum+, ferendum est. quaeris ego me ut gesserim. constanter et libere. 'quid? ille' inquies ut ferebat?' humaniter meaeque dignitatis quoad mihi satis factum esset habendam sibi rationem putabat. quo modo ergo absolutus? omnino +πορπαπυμνᾳ. accusatorum incredibilis infantia, id est L. Lentuli L. f., quem fremunt omnes praevaricatum, deinde Pompei mira contentio, iudicum sordes. ac tamen xxxii condemnarunt xxxviii absolverunt. iudicia reliqua impendent.
{{pn|18.2|2}}nondum est plane expeditus. dices 'tu ergo haec quo modo fers?.' belle me hercule et in eo me valde amo. amisimus, mi Pomponi, omnem non modo sucum ac sanguinem sed etiam colorem et speciem pristinam civitatis. nulla est res publica quae delectet, in qua acquiescam. 'idne igitur' inquies 'facile fers?' id ipsum; recordor enim quam bella paulisper nobis gubernantibus civitas fuerit, quae mihi gratia relata sit. nullus dolor me angit unum omnia posse; dirumpuntur ii qui me aliquid posse doluerunt. multa mihi dant solacia, nec tamen ego de meo statu demigro, quaeque vita maxime est ad naturam ad eam me refero, ad litteras et studia nostra. dicendi laborem delectatione oratoria consolor; domus me et rura nostra delectant; non recordor unde ceciderim sed unde surrexerim. fratrem mecum et te si habebo, per me isti pedibus trahantur; vobis ἐμφιλοσοφῆσαι possum. locus ille animi nostri stomachus ubi habitabat olim concalluit; privata modo et domestica nos delectant. miram securitatem videbis; cuius plurimae me hercule partes sunt in tuo reditu; nemo enim in terris est mihi tam consentientibus sensibus.
{{pn|18.3|3}}sed accipe alia. res fluit ad interregnum, et est non nullus odor dictaturae, sermo quidem multus; qui etiam Gabinium apud timidos iudices adiuvit. candidati consulares omnes rei ambitus. accedit etiam Gabinius; quem P. Sulla non dubitans quin foris esset postularat contra dicente et nihil obtinente Torquato. sed omnes absolventur nec posthac quisquam damnabitur nisi qui hominem occiderit. hoc tamen agitur severius, itaque iudicia calent. M. Fulvius Nobilior condemnatus est; multi alii urbani ne respondent quidem.
{{pn|18.4|4}}quid aliud novi? etiam. absoluto Gabinio stomachantes alii iudices hora post Antiochum Gabinium nescio quem (e) Sopolidis pictoribus libertum, accensum Gabini, lege Papia condemnarunt. itaque dixit statim +resp. lege maiestatis ΟΥΣΟΙΜΡΙΣΑΜΑΦΙΗΙ+. Pomptinus vult a. d. iiii Non. Novembr. triumphare. huic obviam Cato et Servilius praetores ad portam et Q. Mucius tribunus. negant enim latum de imperio, et est latum hercule insulse. sed erit cum Pomptino Appius consul. Cato tamen adfirmat se vivo illum non triumphaturum. id ego puto ut multa eiusdem ad nihilum recasurum. Appius sine lege suo sumptu in Ciliciam cogitat.
{{pn|18.5|5}}A Quinto fratre et a Caesare accepi a. d. viiii Kal. Nov. xvii litteras datas a litoribus Britanniae proximis a. d. vi Kal. Octobr. confecta Britannia, obsidibus acceptis, nulla praeda, imperata tamen pecunia exercitum ex Britannia reportabant. Q. Pilius erat iam ad Caesarem profectus. tu, si aut amor in te est nostri ac tuorum aut ulla veritas aut etiam si sapis ac frui tuis commodis cogitas, adventare et prope adesse iam debes. non me hercule aequo animo te careo; te autem quid mirum, qui Dionysium tanto opere desiderem? quem quidem abs te cum dies venerit et ego et Cicero meus flagitabit. abs te proximas litteras habebam Epheso a. d. v Idus Sextil. datas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ex. m. Nov. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|19.1|1}}O exspectatas mihi tuas litteras! O gratum adventum! O constantiam promissi et fidem miram! O navigationem amandam! quam me hercule ego valde timebam recordans superioris tuae transmissionis δέρρεις. sed nisi fallor citius te quam scribis videbo. credo enim te putasse tuas mulieres in Apulia esse. quod cum secus erit, quid te Apulia moretur? num Vestorio dandi sunt dies et ille Latinus ἀττικισμὸς ex intervallo regustandus? quin tu huc advolas et invisis illius nostrae rei publicae +Germane putavi de nummis+ ante comitia tributim uno loco divisis palam, inde absolutum Gabinium dictaturam +fruere iustitio et omnium rerum licentia+.
{{pn|19.2|2}}perspice aequitatem animi mei et +ludum et contemptionem Seleucianae provinciae+ et me hercule cum Caesare suavissimam coniunctionem (haec enim me una ex hoc naufragio tabula delectat); qui quidem Quintum meum tuumque, di boni! quem ad modum tractat honore, dignitate, gratia! non secus ac si ego essem imperator. hiberna legionis eligendi optio delata commodum, ut ad me Quintus scribit. hunc tu non ames? quem igitur istorum? sed heus tu! scripseramne tibi me esse legatum Pompeio et extra urbem quidem fore ex Idibus Ianuarus? visum est hoc mihi ad multa quadrare. sed quid plura? Coram opinor reliqua, ut tu tamen aliquid exspectes. Dionysio plurimam salutem; cui quidem ego non modo servavi sed etiam aedificavi locum. quid quaeris? ad summam laetitiam meam quam ex tuo reditu capio magnus illius adventus cumulus accedet. quo die ad me venies, tu, si me amas, apud me cum tuis maneas.
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae med. mn. Sept. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|1.1|1}}Cum primum Romam veni fuitque cui recte ad te litteras darem, nihil prius faciendum mihi putavi quam ut tibi absenti de reditu nostro gratularer. cognoram enim, ut vere scribam, te in consiliis mihi dandis nec fortiorem nec prudentiorem quam me ipsum nec etiam pro praeterita mea in te observantia nimium in custodia salutis meae diligentem eundemque te, qui primis temporibus erroris nostri aut potius furoris particeps et falsi timoris socius fuisses, acerbissime discidium nostrum tulisse plurimumque operae, studi, diligentiae, laboris ad conficiendum reditum meum contulisse.
{{pn|1.2|2}}itaque hoc tibi vere adfirmo, in maxima laetitia et exoptatissima gratulatione unum ad cumulandum gaudium conspectum aut potius complexum mihi tuum defuisse. quem semel nactus si umquam dimisero ac nisi etiam praetermissos fructus tuae suavitatis praeteriti temporis omnis exegero, profecto hac restitutione fortunae me ipse non satis dignum iudicabo.
{{pn|1.3|3}}nos adhuc, in nostro statu quod difficillime reciperari posse arbitrati sumus, splendorem nostrum illum forensem et in senatu auctoritatem et apud viros bonos gratiam magis quam optaramus consecuti sumus; in re autem familiari, quae quem ad modum fracta, dissipata, direpta sit non ignoras, valde laboramus tuarumque non tam facultatum quas ego nostras esse iudico quam consiliorum ad conligendas et constituendas reliquias nostras indigemus.
{{pn|1.4|4}}nunc etsi omnia aut scripta esse a tuis arbitror aut etiam nuntiis ac rumore perlata, tamen ea scribam brevi quae te puto potissimum ex meis litteris velle cognoscere. Pr. Nonas Sextilis Dyrrachio sum profectus ipso illo die quo lex est lata de nobis. Brundisium veni Nonis Sextilibus. ibi mihi Tulliola mea fuit praesto natali suo ipso die qui casu idem natalis erat et Brundisinae coloniae et tuae vicinae salutis; quae res animadversa a multitudine summa Brundinisorum gratulatione celebrata est. ante diem iii Idus Sextilis cognovi, quom Brundisi essem, litteris Quinti mirifico studio omnium aetatum atque ordinum, incredibili concursu Italiae legem comitiis centuriatis esse perlatam. Inde a Brundisinis honestissime ornatus iter ita feci ut undique ad me cum gratulatione legati convenerint.
{{pn|1.5|5}}ad urbem ita veni ut nemo ullius ordinis homo nomenclatori notus fuerit qui mihi obviam non venerit, praeter eos inimicos quibus id ipsum, se inimicos esse, non liceret aut dissimulare aut negare. Cum venissem ad portam Capenam, gradus templorum ab infima plebe completi erant. A qua plausu maximo cum esset mihi gratulatio significata, similis et frequentia et plausus me usque ad Capitolium celebravit in foroque et in ipso Capitolio miranda multitudo fuit.
{{pn|1.6|6}}postridie in senatu qui fuit dies Nonarum Septembr. senatui gratias egimus. eo biduo cum esset annonae summa caritas et homines ad theatrum primo, deinde ad senatum concurrissent, impulsu Clodi mea opera frumenti inopiam esse clamarent, cum per eos dies senatus de annona haberetur et ad eius procurationem sermone non solum plebis verum etiam bonorum Pompeius vocaretur idque ipse cuperet multitudoque a me nominatim ut id decernerem postularet, feci et accurate sententiam dixi. Cum abessent consulares, quod tuto se negarent posse sententiam dicere, praeter Messallam et Afranium, factum est senatus consultum in meam sententiam, ut cum Pompeio ageretur ut eam rem susciperet lexque ferretur. quo senatus consulto recitato cum (populus) more hoc insulso et novo plausum meo nomine recitando dedisset, habui contionem. omnes magistratus praesentes praeter unum praetorem et duos tribunos pl. dederunt. {{pn|1.7|7}}postridie senatus frequens et omnes consulares nihil Pompeio postulanti negarunt. ille legatos quindecim cum postularet, me principem nominavit et ad omnia me alterum se fore dixit. legem consules conscripserunt qua Pompeio per quinquennium omnis potestas rei frumentariae toto orbe terrarum daretur, alteram Messius qui omnis pecuniae dat potestatem et adiungit classem et exercitum et maius imperium in provinciis quam sit eorum qui eas obtineant. illa nostra lex consularis nunc modesta videtur, haec messi non ferenda. Pompeius illam velle se dicit, familiares hanc. consulares duce Favonio fremunt; nos tacemus et eo magis quod de domo nostra nihil adhuc pontifices responderunt. qui si sustulerint religionem, aream praeclaram habebimus; superficiem consules ex senatus consulto aestimabunt; sin aliter, +demolientur, suo+ nomine locabunt, rem totam aestimabunt.
{{pn|1.8|8}}ita sunt res nostrae, Vt in secundis fluxae, ut in advorsis bonae. in re familiari valde sumus, ut scis, perturbati. praeterea sunt quaedam domestica quae litteris non committo. quin tum fratrem insigni pietate, virtute, fide praeditum sic amo ut debeo. te exspecto et oro ut matures venire eoque animo venias ut me tuo consilio egere non sinas. alterius vitae quoddam initium ordimur. iam quidam qui nos absentis defenderunt incipiunt praesentibus occulte irasci, aperte invidere. vehementer te requirimus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae in. m. Oct. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|2.1|1}}si forte rarius tibi a me quam a ceteris litterae redduntur peto a te ut id non modo neglegentiae meae sed ne occupationi quidem tribuas; quae etsi summa est, tamen nulla esse potest tanta ut interrumpat iter amoris nostri et offici mei. nam ut veni Romam, iterum nunc sum certior factus esse cui darem litteras; itaque has alteras dedi. prioribus tibi declaravi adventus noster qualis fuisset et quis esset status atque omnes res nostrae quem ad modum essent, Vt in secundis fluxae, ut in advorsis bonae.
{{pn|2.2|2}}post illas datas litteras secuta est summa contentio de domo. diximus apud pontifices pr. Kal. Octobris. Acta res est accurate a nobis et, si umquam in dicendo fuimus aliquid aut etiam si numquam alias fuimus, tum profecto doloris magnitudo vim quandam nobis dicendi dedit. itaque oratio iuventuti nostrae deberi non potest; quam tibi, etiam si non desideras, tamen mittam cito.
{{pn|2.3|3}}Cum pontifices decressent ita, SI NEQVE POPVLI IVSSV NEQVE PLEBIS SCITV IS QVI SE DEDICASSE DICERET NOMINATIM EI REI PRAEFECTVS ESSET NEQVE POPVLI IVSSV AUT PLEBIS SCITV ID FACERE IVSSVS ESSET VIDERI, POSSE SINE RELIGIONE EAM PARTEM AREAE MIHI RESTITVI, mihi facta statim est gratulatio; nemo enim dubitabat quin domus nobis esset adiudicata; cum subito ille in contionem escendit quam Appius ei dedit. nuntiat iam populo pontifices secundum se decrevisse, me autem vi conari in possessionem venire; hortatur ut se et Appium sequantur et suam libertatem vi defendant. hic cum etiam illi infimi partim admirarentur partim inriderent hominis amentiam, ego statuerem illuc non accedere nisi cum consules ex senatus consulto porticum Catuli restituendam locassent Kal Octobr. habetur senatus frequens.
{{pn|2.4|4}}adhibentur omnes pontifices qui erant senatores. A quibus Marcellinus, qui erat cupidissimus mei, sententiam primus rogatus quaesivit quid essent in decernendo secuti. tum M. Lucullus de omnium conlegarum sententia respondit religionis iudices pontifices fuisse, legis esse senatum; se et conlegas suos de religione statuisse, in senatu de lege statuturos cum senatu. itaque sub quisque horum loco sententiam rogatus multa secundum causam nostram disputavit. Cum ad Clodium ventum est, cupiit diem consumere neque ei finis est factus, sed tamen cum horas tris fere dixisset, odio et strepitu senatus coactus est aliquando perorare. Cum fieret senatus consultum in sententiam Marcellini omnibus praeter unum adsentientibus, Serranus (intercessit. de) intercessione statim ambo consules referre coeperunt. Cum sententiae gravissimae dicerentur, senatui placere mihi domum restitui, porticum Catuli locari, auctoritatem ordinis ab omnibus magistratibus defendi si quae vis esset facta, senatum existimaturum eius opera factum esse qui senatus consulto intercessisset, Serranus pertimuit et Cornicinus ad suam veterem fabulam rediit; abiecta toga se ad generi pedes abiecit. ille noctem sibi postulavit. non concedebant, reminiscebantur enim Kal. Ianuar. vix tandem tibi de mea voluntate concessum est.
{{pn|2.5|5}}postridie senatus consultum factum est id quod ad te misi. deinde consules porticum Catuli restituendam locarunt; illam porticum redemptores statim sunt demoliti libentissimis omnibus. nobis superficiem aedium consules de consili sententia aestimarunt sestertio viciens, cetera valde inliberaliter, Tusculanam villam quingentis milibus, Formianum HS ducentis quinquaginta milibus. quae aestimatio non modo vehementer ab optimo quoque sed etiam a plebe reprehenditur. dices: 'quid igitur causae fuit?' dicunt illi quidem pudorem meum, quod neque negarim neque vehementius postularim; sed non est id; nam hoc quidem etiam profuisset; verum iidem, mi T. Pomponi, iidem inquam illi quos ne tu quidem ignoras qui mihi pinnas inciderant nolunt easdem renasci. sed, ut spero, iam renascuntur. tu modo ad nos veni; quod vereor ne tardius interventu Varronis tui nostrique facias.
{{pn|2.6|6}}quoniam acta quae sint habes, de reliqua nostra cogitatione cognosce. ego me a Pompeio legari ita sum passus ut nulla re impedirer. quod nisi vellem mihi esset integrum ut, si comitia censorum proximi consules haberent, petere possem, votivam legationem sumpsissem prope omnium fanorum, lucorum; sic enim nostrae rationes utilitatis meae postulabant. sed volui meam potestatem esse vel petendi vel ineunte aestate exeundi et interea me esse in oculis civium de me optime meritorum non alienum putavi.
{{pn|2.7|7}}ac forensium quidem rerum haec nostra consilia sunt, domesticarum autem valde impedita. domus aedificatur, scis quo sumptu, qua molestia; reficitur Formianum, quod ego nec relinquere possum nec videre; Tusculanum proscripsi; suburbano facile careo. amicorum benignitas exhausta est in ea re quae nihil habuit praeter dedecus, quod sensisti tu absens (nos) praesentes; quorum studiis ego et copiis, si esset per meos defensores licitum, facile essem omnia consecutus. quo in genere nunc vehementer laboratur. cetera quae me sollicitant μυστικώτερα sunt. amamur a fratre et a filia. (te) exspectamus.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae vi K. Dec. a. 697 (57).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|3.1|1}}avere te certo scio cum scire quid hic agatur tum mea a me scire, non quo certiora sint ea quae in oculis omnium geruntur si a me scribantur quam cum ab aliis aut scribantur tibi aut nuntientur, sed ut perspicias ex meis litteris quo animo ea feram quae geruntur et qui sit hoc tempore aut mentis meae sensus aut omnino vitae status.
{{pn|3.2|2}}armatis hominibus ante diem tertium Nonas Novembris expulsi sunt fabri de area nostra, disturbata porticus Catuli quae ex senatus consulto consulum locatione reficiebatur et ad tectum paene pervenerat, Quinti fratris domus primo fracta coniectu lapidum ex area nostra, deinde inflammata iussu Clodi, inspectante urbe coniectis ignibus, magna querela et gemitu non dicam bonorum, qui nescio an nulli sint, sed plane hominum omnium. ille demens ruere, post hunc vero furorem nihil nisi caedem inimicorum cogitare, vicatim ambire, servis aperte spem libertatis ostendere. etenim antea cum iudicium tollebat, habebat ille quidem difficilem manifestamque causam sed tamen causam; poterat infitiari, poterat in alios derivare, poterat etiam aliquid iure factum defendere; post has ruinas, incendia, rapinas desertus a suis vix iam Decimum designatorem, vix Gellium retinet, servorum consiliis utitur, videt, si omnis quos vult palam occiderit, nihilo suam causam difficiliorem quam adhuc sit in iudicio futuram. {{pn|3.3|3}}itaque ante diem tertium Idus Novembris, cum sacra via descenderem, insecutus est me cum suis. clamor, lapides, fustes, gladii, haec improvisa omnia. discessimus in vestibulum Tetti Damionis. qui erant mecum facile operas aditu prohibuerunt. ipse occidi potuit, sed ego diaeta curare incipio, chirurgiae taedet. ille omnium vocibus cum se non ad iudicium sed ad supplicium praesens trudi videret, omnis Catilinas Acidinos postea reddidit. nam Milonis domum, eam quae (est in) Cermalo, pr. Idus Novembr. expugnare et incendere ita conatus est ut palam hora quinta cum scutis homines eductis gladiis, alios cum accensis facibus adduxerit. ipse domum P. Sullae pro castris sibi ad eam impugnationem sumpserat. tum ex Anniana Milonis domo Q. Flaccus eduxit viros acris; occidit homines ex omni latrocinio Clodiano notissimos, ipsum cupivit, sed ille se in interiora aedium Sullae. exin senatus postridie Idus. domi Clodius. Egregius Marcellinus, omnes acres. Metellus calumnia dicendi tempus exemit adiuvante Appio, etiam hercule familiari tuo, de cuius constantia virtute (tuae) verissimae litterae. Sestius furere. ille postea, si comitia sua non fierent, urbi minari. (Milo) proposita Marcellini sententia, quam ille de scripto ita dixerat ut totam nostram causam areae, incendiorum, periculi mei iudicio complecteretur eaque omnia comitiis anteferret, proscripsit se per omnis dies comitialis de caelo servaturum.
{{pn|3.4|4}}contiones turbulentae Metelli, temerariae Appi, furiosissimae Publi haec tamen summa, nisi Milo in campo obnuntiasset, comitia futura. ante diem xii Kal. Decembr. Milo ante mediam noctem cum, magna manu in campum venit. Clodius cum haberet fugitivorum delectas copias, in campum ire non est ausus. Milo permansit ad meridiem mirifica hominum laetitia summa cum gloria. contentio fratrum trium turpis, fracta vis, contemptus furor. Metellus tamen postulat ut sibi postero die in foro obnuntietur; nihil esse quod in campum nocte veniretur; se hora prima in comitio fore. itaque ante diem xi Kal. in comitium Milo de nocte venit. Metellus cum prima luce furtim in campum itineribus prope deviis currebat; adsequitur inter lucos hominem Milo, obnuntiat. ille se recepit magno et turpi Q. Flacci convicio. ante diem x Kal. nundinae. {{pn|3.5|5}}contio biduo nulla. ante diem viii Kal. haec ego scribebam hora noctis nona. Milo campum iam tenebat. Marcellus candidatus ita stertebat ut ego vicinus audirem. Clodi vestibulum vacuum sane mihi nuntiabatur, pauci pannosi, linea lanterna. meo consilio omnia illi fieri querebantur ignari quantum in illo heroe esset animi, quantum etiam consili. miranda virtus est. nova quaedam divina mitto; sed haec summa est. comitia fore non arbitror; reum Publium, nisi ante occisus erit, fore a Milone puto; si se in turba ei iam obtulerit, occisum iri ab ipso Milone video. non dubitat facere, prae se fert; casum illum nostrum non extimescit. numquam enim cuiusquam invidi et perfidi consilio est usurus nec inerti nobili crediturus.
{{pn|3.6|6}}nos animo dumtaxat vigemus etiam magis (quam) cum florebamus, re familiari comminuti sumus. Quinti fratris tamen liberalitati pro facultatibus nostris, ne omnino exhaustus essem, illo recusante subsidiis amicorum respondemus. quid consili de omni nostro statu capiamus te absente nescimus. qua re adpropera.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae iii K. Febr. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|4}}periucundus mihi Cincius fuit ante diem iii Kal. Febr. ante lucem; dixit enim mihi te esse in Italia seseque ad te pueros mittere. quos sine meis litteris ire nolui, non quo haberem quod tibi, praesertim iam prope praesenti, scriberem sed ut hoc ipsum significarem, mihi tuum adventum suavissimum exspectatissimumque esse. qua re advola ad nos eo animo ut nos ames, te amari scias. cetera coram agemus. haec properantes scripsimus. quo die venies, utique cum tuis apud me sis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. in Antiati m. April. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|5.1|1}}ain tu? me existimas ab ullo malle mea legi probarique quam a te? cur igitur cuiquam misi prius? Urgebar ab eo ad quem misi, et non habebam exemplar. quid? etiam (dudum enim circumrodo quod devorandum est) subturpicula mihi videbatur esse παλινῳδία. sed valeant recta, vera, honesta consilia. non est credibile quae sit perfidia in istis principibus, ut volunt esse et ut essent si quicquam haberent fidei. senseram noram inductus, relictus, proiectus ab iis. tamen hoc eram animo ut cum iis in re publica consentirem. idem erant qui fuerant. vix aliquando te auctore resipui. {{pn|5.2|2}}dices ea te monuisse, suasisse a quae facerem, non etiam ut scriberem. ego me hercule mihi necessitatem volui imponere huius novae coniunctionis, ne qua mihi liceret labi ad illos qui etiam tum cum misereri mei debent non desinunt invidere. sed tamen modici fuimus ὑποθέσει, ut scripsi. erimus uberiores si et ille libenter accipiet, et ii subringentur qui villam me moleste ferunt habere quae Catuli fuerat, a Vettio emisse non cogitant; qui domum negant oportuisse me aedificare, vendere aiunt oportuisse. sed quid ad hoc, si, quibus sententiis dixi quod et ipsi probarent, laetati sunt tamen me contra Pompei voluntatem dixisse? finis sit. quoniam qui nihil possunt ii me nolunt amare, demus operam ut ab iis qui a possunt diligamur. dices "vellem iam pridem." scio te voluisse et me Usinum germanum fuisse. sed iam tempus est me ipsum a me amari, quando ab illis nullo modo possum. domum meam quod crebro invisis est mihi valde gratum. viaticum Crassipes praeripit. tu de via recta in hortos. videtur commodius ad te; postridie scilicet; quid enim tua? sed viderimus. bibliothecam mihi tui pinxerunt constructione et sittybis. Eos velim laudes.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Antiati m. Apr. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|6.1|1}}de Lentulo scilicet sic fero ut debeo. virum bonum et magnum hominem et in summa magnitudine animi multa humanitate temperatum perdidimus nosque malo solacio sed non nullo tamen consolamur quod ipsius vicem minime dolemus non ut Saufeius et vestri sed me hercule quia sic amabat patriam ut mihi aliquo deorum beneficio videatur ex eius incendio esse ereptus. nam quid foedius nostra vita, praecipue mea? nam tu quidem, etsi es natura πολιτικός, tamen nullam habes propriam servitutem, communi frueris nomine;
{{pn|6.2|2}}ego vero qui, si loquor de re publica quod oportet, insanus, si quod opus est, servus existimor, si taceo, oppressus et captus, quo dolore esse debeo? quo sum scilicet, hoc etiam acriore quod ne dolere quidem possum ut non ingratus videar. quid si cessare libeat et in oti portum confugere? nequiquam; immo etiam in bellum et in castra. ergo erimus ὀπαδοί qui ταγοὶ esse noluimus? sic faciendum est, tibi enim ipsi (quoi utinam semper paruissem!) sic video placere. reliquum iam est Σπάρταν ἔλαχες, ταύταν κόσμει non me hercule possum et Philoxeno ignosco qui reduci in carcerem maluit. verum tamen id ipsum mecum in his locis commentor ut ista (ne) improbem, idque tu cum una erimus confirmabis. A te litteras crebro ad me scribi video sed omnis uno tempore accepi. quae res etiam auxit dolorem meum. casu enim trinas ante legeram quibus meliuscule Lentulo .esse scriptum erat. ecce quartae fulmen! sed ille, ut scripsi, non miser, nos vero ferrei.
{{pn|6.3|3}}quod me admones ut scribam illa Hortensiana, in alia incidi non immemor istius mandati tui; sed me hercule (in) incipiendo refugi ne qui videor stulte illius amici intemperiem non tulisse rursus stulte iniuriam illius faciam inlustrem si quid scripsero, et simul ne βαθύτης mea quae in agendo apparuit in scribendo sit occultior et aliquid satisfactio levitatis habere videatur.
{{pn|6.4|4}}sed viderimus; tu modo quam saepissime ad me aliquid. epistulam Lucceio nunc quam misi, qua meas res ut scribat rogo, fac ut ab eo sumas (valde bella est) eumque ut adproperet adhorteris et quod mihi se ita facturum rescripsit agas gratias, domum nostram quoad poteris invisas, Vestorio aliquid significes. valde enim est in me liberalis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Arpinati m. Apr. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|7.1|1}}nihil εὐκαιρότερον epistula tua quae me sollicitum de Quinto nostro, puero optimo, valde levavit. venerat horis duabus ante Chaerippus, mera monstra nuntiarat. de Apollonio quod scribis, qui illi di irati! homini Graeco qui conturbat atque idem putat sibi licere quod equitibus Romanis. nam Terentius suo iure. {{pn|7.2|2}}de Metello οὐχ ὁσίη φθιμένοισιν, sed tamen multis annis civis nemo erat mortuus qui quidem . . . tibi nummi meo periculo sint. quid enim vereris? quemcumque heredem fecit, nisi Publium fecit, virum fecit, non improbe, quamquam fuit ipse. qua re in hoc thecam nummariam non retexeris, in aliis eris cautior.
{{pn|7.3|3}}mea mandata de domo curabis, praesidia locabis, Milonem admonebis. Arpinatium fremitus est incredibilis de Laterio. quid quaeris? equidem dolui; ὁ δὲ οὐκ ἐμπάζετο μύθων quod superest, etiam puerum Ciceronem curabis et amabis, ut facis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Antiati m. Apr. aut Mai. a. 698 (56).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|8.1|1}}multa me in epistula tua delectarunt sed nihil magis quam patina tyrotarichi. nam de raudusculo quod scribis, μήπω μέγ᾽ εἴπῃς πρὶν τελευτήσαντ᾽ ἴδῃς aedificati tibi in agris nihil reperio. in oppido est quiddam, de quo est dubium sitne venale, ac proximum quidem nostris aedibus. hoc scito, Antium Buthrotum esse Romae, ut Corcyrae illud tuum (Antium). nihil quietius, nihil alsius, nihil amoenius. Εἴη μοὶ οὕτος φίλος οἶκος.
{{pn|8.2|2}}postea vero, quam Tyrannio mihi libros disposuit, mens addita videtur meis aedibus. qua quidem in re mirifica opera Dionysi et Menophili tui fuit. nihil venustius quam illa tua pegmata, postquam mi sillybis libros inlustrarunt. vale. et scribas ad me velim de gladiatoribus, sed ita bene si rem gerunt; non quaero, male si se gesserunt.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Neapoli iv K. Mai a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|9.1|1}}sane velim scire num censum impediant tribuni diebus vitiandis (est enim hic rumor) totaque de censura quid agant, quid cogitent. nos hic cum Pompeio fuimus. multa mecum de re publica sane sibi displicens, ut loquebatur (sic est enim in hoc homine dicendum), Syriam spernens, Hispaniam iactans, hic quoque, ut loquebatur; et opinor usque quaque, de hoc cum dicemus, sit hoc quasi καὶ τόδε Φωκυλίδου. tibi etiam gratias agebat quod signa componenda suscepisses; in nos vero suavissime hercule est effusus. venit etiam ad me in Cumanum a se. nihil minus velle mihi visus est quam Messallam consulatum petere. de quo ipso si quid scis velim scire.
{{pn|9.2|2}}quod Lucceio scribis te nostram gloriam commendaturum et aedificium nostrum quod crebro invisis, gratum. Quintus frater ad me scripsit se, quoniam Ciceronem suavissimum tecum haberes, ad te Nonis Maias venturum. )ego me de Cumano movi ante diem v Kal. Maias. eo die Neapoli apud Paetum. ante diem IIII Kal. Maias iens in Pompeianum bene mane haec scripsi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cttn:ano ix K. Mat a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|10.1|1}}Puteolis magnus est rumor Ptolomaeum esse in regno. si quid habes certius velim scire. ego hic pascor bibliotheca Fausti. fortasse tu putabas his rebus Puteolanis et Lucrinensibus. ne ista quidem desunt. sed me hercule (ut) a ceteris oblectationibus deseror [et] voluptatum propter rem publicam, sic litteris sustentor et recreor maloque in illa tua sedecula quam habes sub imagine Aristotelis sedere quam in istorum sella curuli tecumque apud te ambulare quam cum eo quocum video esse ambulandum. sed de illa ambulatione fors viderit aut si qui est qui curet deus;
{{pn|10.2|2}}nostram ambulationem et Laconicum eaque quae Cyrea sint velim quod poterit invisas et urgeas Philotimum ut properet, ut possim tibi aliquid in eo genere respondere. Pompeius in Cumanum parilibus venit. misit ad me statim qui salutem nuntiaret. ad eum postridie mane vadebam, cum haec scripsi.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cumano a. d. v. K. Mai. a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|11.1|1}}delectarunt me epistulae tuae quas accepi uno tempore duas ante diem v Kal. Perge reliqua. gestio scire ista omnia. etiam illud cuius modi sit velim perspicias; potes a Demetrio. dixit mihi Pompeius Crassum a se in Albano exspectari ante diem iiii Kal.; is cum venisset, Romam (eum) et se statim venturos ut rationes cum publicanis putarent. quaesivi gladiatoribusne. respondit ante quam inducerentur. id cuius modi sit aut nunc si scies aut cum is Romam venerit ad me mittas velim.
{{pn|11.2|2}}nos hic voramus litteras cum homine mirifico (ita me hercule sentio) Dionysio qui te omnisque vos salutat. Οὐδὲν γλυκύτερον ἢ πᾶν εἰδέναι. qua re ut homini curioso ita perscribe ad me quid primus dies, quid secundus, quid censores, quid Appius, quid illa populi Appuleia; denique etiam quid a te fiat ad me velim scribas. non enim, ut vere loquamur, tam rebus novis quam tuis litteris delector. ego mecum praeter Dionysium eduxi neminem nec metuo tamen ne mihi sermo desit. +abs te opere+ delector. tu Lucceio nostrum librum dabis. Demetri Magnetis tibi mitto, statim ut sit qui a te mihi epistulam referat.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. um Mai. a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|12}}Egnatius Romae est. sed ego cum eo de re Halimeti vehementer Anti egi. graviter se acturum cum Aquilio confirmavit. videbis ergo hominem si voles. Macroni vix videor praesto esse (posse); Idibus enim auctionem Larini video et biduum praeterea. id tu, quoniam Macronem tanti facis, ignoscas mihi velim. sed si me diligis, postridie Kal. cena apud me cum Pilia. prorsus id facies. Kalendis cogito in hortis Crassipedis quasi in deversorio cenare. facio fraudem senatus consulto. Inde domum cenatus, ut sim mane praesto Miloni. ibi te igitur videbo et permanebo. domus te nostra tota salutat.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. in Tusculano m. Nov. post xvii K. Dec. a. 699 (55).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|13.1|1}}nos in Tusculanum venisse a. d. xvii Kal. Dec. video te scire. ibi Dionysius nobis praesto fuit. Romae a. d. xiiii Kal. volumus esse. quid dico 'volumus'? immo vero cogimur. Milonis nuptiae. comitiorum non nulla opinio est. ego, ut sit rata, afuisse me in altercationibus quas in senatu factas audio fero non moleste. nam aut defendissem quod non placeret aut defuissem cui non oporteret. sed me hercule velim res istas et praesentem statum rei publicae et quo animo consules ferant hunc σκυλμόν scribas ad me quantum pote. valde sum ὀξύπεινος et, si quaeris, omnia mihi sunt suspecta.
{{pn|13.2|2}}Crassum quidem nostrum minore dignitate aiunt profectum paludatum quam olim aequalem eius L. Paulum, item iterum consulem. O hominem nequam! de libris oratoriis factum est a me diligenter. diu multumque in manibus fuerunt. describas licet. illud (etiam atque) etiam te rogo, τὴν παροῦσαν κατάστασιν τυπωδῶς, ne istuc hospes veniam.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cumano m. Mai. post vi Id. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|14.1|1}}Vestorius noster me per litteras fecit certiorem te Roma a. d. vi Idus Maias putari profectum esse tardius quam dixeras quod minus valuisses. si iam melius vales, vehementer gaudeo. velim domum ad te scribas ut mihi tui libri pateant non secus ac si ipse adesses cum ceteri tum Varronis. est enim mihi utendum quibusdam rebus ex his libris ad eos quos in manibus habeo; quos, ut spero, tibi valde probabo.
{{pn|14.2|2}}tu velim si quid forte novi habes, maxime a Quinto fratre, deinde a C. Caesare, et si quid forte de comitiis, de re publica (soles enim tu haec festive odorari), scribas ad me; si nihil habebis, tamen scribas aliquid. numquam enim mihi tua epistula aut intempestiva aut loquax visa est. maxime autem rogo rebus tuis totoque itinere ex sententia confecto nos quam primum revisas. Dionysium iube salvere. cura ut valeas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae vi K. Sext. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|15.1|1}}de Eutychide gratum qui vetere praenomine, novo nomine T. erit Caecilius, ut est ex me et ex te iunctus Dionysius M. Pomponius. valde me hercule mihi gratum est Eutychidem tuam erga me benevolentiam cognosse (et) suam illam in meo dolore συμπάθειαν neque tum mihi obscuram neque post ingratam fuisse.
{{pn|15.2|2}}iter Asiaticum tuum puto tibi suscipiendum fuisse; numquam enim tu sine iustissima causa tam longe a tot tuis et hominibus et rebus carissimis et suavissimis abesse voluisses. sed humanitatem tuam amoremque in tuos reditus celeritas declarabit. sed vereor ne lepore suo detineat diutius praetor Clodius et homo pereruditus, ut aiunt, et nunc quidem deditus Graecis litteris Pituanius. sed si vis homo esse, recipe te ad nos ad quod tempus confirmasti. Cum illis tamen cum salvi venerint Romae vivere licebit. avere te scribis accipere aliquid a me litterarum.
{{pn|15.3|3}}dedi ac multis quidem de rebus ἡμερολεγδὸν perscripta omnia; sed ut conicio, quoniam mihi non videris in Epiro diu fuisse, redditas tibi non arbitror. genus autem mearum ad te quidem litterarum eius modi fere est ut non libeat cuiquam dare nisi de quo exploratum sit tibi eum redditurum.
{{pn|15.4|4}}nunc Romanas res accipe. A. d. iiii Nonas Quintilis Sufenas et Cato absoluti, Procilius condemnatus. ex quo intellectum est τρισαρειοπαγίτας ambitum, comitia, interregnum, maiestatem, totam denique rem publicam flocci non facere, [debemus] patrem familias domi suae occidi nolle, neque tamen id ipsum abunde; nam absolverunt xxii, condemnarunt xxviii. Publius sane diserto epilogo criminans (me) mentis iudicum commoverat. Hortalus in ea causa fuit cuius modi solet. nos verbum nullum; verita est enim pusilla, quae nunc laborat, ne animum Publi offenderem.
{{pn|15.5|5}}his rebus actis Reatini me ad sua Τέμπη duxerunt ut agerem causam contra Interamnatis apud consulem et decem legatos, quod lacus Velinus a M'. Curio emissus interciso monte in Nar defluit; ex quo est illa siccata et umida tamen modice Rosia. vixi cum Axio, qui etiam me ad septem aquas duxit.
{{pn|15.6|6}}redii Romam Fontei causa a. d. vii Idus Quint. veni in spectaculum primum magno et aequabili plausu. sed hoc ne curaris; ego ineptus qui scripserim. deinde Antiphonti operam. is erat ante manu missus quam productus. ne diutius pendeas, palmam tulit; sed nihil tam pusillum, nihil tam sine voce, nihil tam . . . verum haec tu tecum habeto. in Andromacha tamen maior fuit quam Astyanax, in ceteris parem habuit neminem. quaeris nunc de Arbuscula; valde placuit. ludi magnifici et grati; venatio in aliud tempus dilata.
{{pn|15.7|7}}sequere nunc me in campum. ardet ambitus; σῆμα δέ τοι ἐρέω; faenus ex triente Idibus Quintilibus factum erat bessibus. dices "istuc quidem non moleste fero." O virum! o civem! Memmium Caesaris omnes opes confirmant. Cum eo Domitium consules iunxerunt, qua pactione epistulae committere non audeo. Pompeius fremit, queritur, Scauro studet, sed utrum fronte an mente dubitatur. Ἐξοχὴ in nullo est; pecunia omnium dignitatem exaequat. Messalla languet, non quo aut animus desit aut amici sed coitio consulum (et) Pompeius obsunt. ea comitia puto fore ut ducantur. tribunicii candidati iurarunt se arbitrio Catonis petituros. apud eum HS quingena deposuerunt ut qui a Catone damnatus esset id perderet et competitoribus tribueretur.
{{pn|15.8|8}}haec ego pridie scribebam quam comitia fore putabantur. sed ad te, quinto Kal. Sextil. si facta erunt et tabellarius non erit profectus, tota comitia perscribam. quae si, ut putantur, gratuita fuerint, plus unus Cato potuerit quam (omnes leges) omnesque iudices.
{{pn|15.9|9}}Messius defendebatur a nobis de legatione revocatus; nam eum Caesari legarat Appius. Servilius edixit ut adesset. tribus habet Pomptinam, Velinam, Maeciam. pugnatur acriter; agitur tamen satis. deinde me expedio ad Drusum, inde ad Scaurum. parantur orationibus indices gloriosi. fortasse accedent etiam consules designati. in quibus si Scaurus non fuerit, in hoc iudicio valde laborabit. {{pn|15.10|10}}ex Quinti fratris litteris suspicor iam eum esse in Britannia. suspenso animo exspecto quid agat. illud quidem sumus adepti, quod multis et magnis indiciis possumus iudicare, nos Caesari et carissimos et iucundissimos esse. Dionysium velim salvere iubeas et eum roges et hortere ut quam primum veniat, ut possit Ciceronem meum atque etiam me ipsum erudire.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ex. m. Iun. aut in. Quint. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|16.1|1}}occupationum mearum vel hoc signum erit quod epistula librari manu est. de epistularum frequentia te nihil accuso, sed pleraeque tantum modo mihi nuntiabant ubi esses, vel etiam significabant recte esse, quod erant abs te. quo in genere maxime delectarunt duae fere eodem tempore abs te Buthroto datae. scire enim volebam te commode navigasse. sed haec epistularum frequentia non tam ubertate sua quam crebritate delectavit. illa fuit gravis et plena rerum quam mihi M. Paccius, hospes tuus, reddidit. ad eam rescribam igitur et hoc quidem primum. paccio ratione et verbis et re ostendi quid tua commendatio ponderis haberet. itaque in intimis est meis, cum antea notus non fuisset.
{{pn|16.2|2}}nunc pergam ad cetera. Varro, de quo ad me scribis, includetur in aliquem locum, si modo erit locus. sed nosti genus dialogorum meorum. Vt in oratoriis, quos tu in caelum fers, non potuit mentio fieri cuiusquam ab iis qui disputant, nisi eius qui illis notus aut auditus esset, ita hanc ego de re publica quam institui disputationem in Africani personam et Phili et Laeli (et) Manili contuli. adiunxi adulescentis Q. Tuberonem, P. Rutilium, duo Laeli generos, Scaevolam et Fannium. itaque cogitabam, quoniam in singulis libris utor prohoemiis ut Aristoteles in iis quos ἐξωτερικοὺς vocat, aliquid efficere ut non sine causa istum appellarem; id quod intellego tibi placere. Vtinam modo conata efficere possim! rem enim, quod te non fugit, magnam complexus sum et gravem et plurimi oti, quo ego maxime egeo.
{{pn|16.3|3}}quod in iis libris quos laudas personam desideras Scaevolae, non eam temere dimovi sed feci idem quod in πολιτείᾳ deus ille noster Plato. Cum in Piraeum Socrates venisset ad Cephalum, locupletem et festivum senem, quoad primus ille sermo habetur, adest in disputando senex, deinde cum ipse quoque commodissime locutus esset, ad rem divinam dicit se velle discedere neque postea revertitur. credo Platonem vix putasse satis consonum fore si hominem id aetatis in tam longo sermone diutius retinuisset. multo ego magis hoc mihi cavendum putavi in Scaevola, qui et aetate et valetudine erat ea qua eum esse meministi et iis honoribus ut vix satis decorum videretur eum pluris dies esse in Crassi Tusculano. et erat primi libri sermo non alienus a Scaevolae studiis, reliqui libri τεχνολογίαν habent, ut scis. huic ioculatorem senem ilium, ut noras, interesse sane nolui.
{{pn|16.4|4}}de re Piliae quod scribis erit mihi curae. etenim est luculenta res Aureliani, ut scribis, indiciis. et in eo me etiam Tulliae meae venditabo. Vestorio non desum. gratum enim tibi id esse intellego et ut ille intellegat curo. sed scis qui? Cum habeat duo facilis nihil difficilius.
{{pn|16.5|5}}nunc ad ea (quae) quaeris de C. Catone. lege Iunia et Licinia scis absolutum; Fufia ego tibi nuntio absolutum iri neque patronis suis tam libentibus quam accusatoribus. is tamen et mecum et cum Milone in gratiam rediit. Drusus reus est factus a Lucretio. iudicibus reiciendis (dies est dictus) a. d. v Non. Quint. de Procilio rumores non boni, sed iudicia nosti. Hirrus cum Domitio in gratia est. senatus consultum quod hi consules de provinciis fecerunt QVICVMQVE POSTHAC — non mihi videtur esse valiturum.
{{pn|16.6|6}}de Messalla quod quaeris, quid scribam nescio. numquam ego vidi tam paris candidatos. Messallae copias nosti. Scaurum Triarius reum fecit. si quaeris, nulla est magno opere commota συμπάθεια, sed tamen habet aedilitas eius memoriam non ingratam et est pondus apud rusticos in patris memoria. reliqui duo plebeii sic exaequantur ut Domitius valeat amicis adiuvetur tamen non (nihil) gratissimo munere, Memmius Caesaris commendetur militibus, Pompei Gallia nitatur. quibus si non valuerit, putant fore aliquem qui comitia in adventum Caesaris detrudat, Catone praesertim absoluto.
{{pn|16.7|7}}Paccianae epistulae respondi. nunc te obiurgari patere, si iure. scribis enim in ea epistula quam C. Decimius mihi reddidit Buthroto datam in Asiam tibi eundum esse te arbitrari. mihi me hercule nihil videbatur esse in quo tantulum interesset utrum per procuratores ageres an per te ipsum, ut a tuis totiens et tam longe abesses. sed haec mallem integra re tecum egissem, profecto enim aliquid egissem. nunc reprimam susceptam obiurgationem. Vtinam valeat ad celeritatem reditus tui! ego ad te propterea minus saepe scribo quod certum non habeo ubi sis aut ubi futurus sis; huic tamen nescio cui, quod videbatur isti (te) visurus esse, putavi dandas esse litteras. tu quoniam iturum te in Asiam esse putas, ad quae tempora te exspectemus facias me certiorem velim et de Eutychide quid egeris.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae K. Oct. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|17.1|1}}puto te existimare me nunc oblitum consuetudinis et instituti mei rarius ad te scribere quam solebam; sed quoniam loca et itinera tua nihil habere certi video, neque in Epirum neque Athenas neque in Asiam cuiquam nisi ad te ipsum proficiscenti dedi litteras. neque enim (eae) sunt epistulae nostrae quae si perlatae non sint nihil ea res nos offensura sit; quae tantum habent mysteriorum ut eas ne librariis quidem fere committamus, +lepidum quo excidat+.
{{pn|17.2|2}}consules flagrant infamia quod C. Memmius candidatus pactionem in senatu recitavit quam ipse (et) suus competitor Domitius cum consulibus fecisset uti ambo HS quadragena consulibus darent, si essent ipsi consules facti, nisi tris augures dedissent qui se adfuisse dicerent cum lex curiata ferretur quae lata non esset, et duo consularis qui se dicerent in ornandis provinciis consularibus scribendo adfuisse, cum omnino ne senatus quidem fuisset. haec pactio non verbis sed nominibus et perscriptionibus multorum tabulis cum esse facta diceretur, prolata a Memmio est nominibus inductis auctore Pompeio. hic Appius erat idem. nihil sane iacturae. corruerat alter et plane inquam iacebat.
{{pn|17.3|3}}Memmius autem dirempta coitione invito Calvino plane refrixerat et eo magis nunc totus iacet quod iam intellegebamus enuntiationem illam Memmi valde Caesari displicere. Messalla noster et eius Domitius competitor liberalis in populo valde fuit. nihil gratius. certi erant consules. at senatus decrevit ut tacitum iudicium ante comitia fieret ab iis consiliis quae erant (ex) omnibus sortita in singulos candidatos. Magnus timor candidatorum. sed quidam iudices, in his Opimius, Veiento, Rantius, tribunos pl. appellarunt, ne iniussu populi iudicarent. res cedit; comitia dilata ex senatus consulto dum lex de tacito iudicio ferretur. venit legi dies. Terentius intercessit. consules qui illud levi bracchio egissent rem ad senatum detulerunt. hic Abdera non tacente me. dices 'tamen tu non quiescis?' ignosce, vix possum. verum tamen quid tam ridiculum? senatus decreverat ne prius comitia haberentur quam lex lata esset; si qui intercessisset, res integra referretur. coepta ferri leviter, intercessum non invitis, res ad senatum. de ea re ita censuerunt comitia primo quoque tempore haberi esse e re publica.
{{pn|17.4|4}}Scaurus qui erat paucis diebus illis absolutus, cum ego +patrem+ eius ornatissime defendissem, obnuntiationibus per Scaevolam interpositis singulis diebus usque ad pr. Kal. i, Octobr., quo ego haec die scripsi, sublatis populo tributim domi suae satis fecerat. sed tamen etsi uberior liberalitas huius, gratior esse videbatur eorum qui occuparant. cuperem vultum videre tuum cum haec legeres; nam profecto spem habes nullam haec negotia multarum nundinarum fore. sed senatus hodie fuerat futurus, id est Kal. Octobribus; iam enim luciscit. ibi loquetur praeter Antium et Favonium libere nemo; nam Cato aegrotat. de me nihil timueris, sed tamen promitto nihil.
{{pn|17.5|5}}quid quaeris aliud? iudicia, credo. Drusus, Scaurus non fecisse videntur. tres candidati fore rei putabantur, Domitius a Memmio, Messalla a Q. Pompeio Rufo, Scaurus a Triario aut a L. Caesare. 'quid poteris' inquies 'pro iis dicere?' ne vivam (si) scio; in illis quidem tribus libris quos tu dilaudas nihil reperio.
{{pn|17.6|6}}cognosce cetera. ex fratris litteris incredibilia de Caesaris in me amore cognovi, eaque sunt ipsius Caesaris uberrimis litteris confirmata. Britannici belli exitus exspectatur; constat enim aditus insulae esse muratos mirificis molibus. etiam illud iam cognitum est neque argenti scripulum esse ullum in illa insula neque ullam spem praedae nisi ex mancipiis; ex quibus nullos puto te litteris aut musicis eruditos exspectare.
{{pn|17.7|7}}Paulus in medio foro basilicam iam paene texerat isdem antiquis columnis, illam autem quam locavit facit magnificentissimam. quid quaeris? nihil gratius illo monumento, nihil gloriosius. itaque Caesaris amici, me dico et Oppium, dirumparis licet, (in) monumentum illud quod tu tollere laudibus solebas, ut forum laxaremus et usque ad atrium libertatis explicaremus, contempsimus sexcenties HS; cum privatis non poterat transigi minore pecunia. efficiemus rem gloriosissimam; nam in campo Martio saepta tributis comitiis marmorea sumus et tecta facturi eaque cingemus excelsa porticu, ut mille passuum conficiatur. simul adiungetur huic operi villa etiam publica. dices 'quid mihi hoc monumentum proderit?' +ad quid id laboramus res Romanas+. non enim te puto de lustro quod iam desperatum est, aut de iudiciis quae lege +Coctia+ fiant quaerere.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ex. m. Oct. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|18.1|1}}+nunc ut opinionem habeas rerum+, ferendum est. quaeris ego me ut gesserim. constanter et libere. 'quid? ille' inquies ut ferebat?' humaniter meaeque dignitatis quoad mihi satis factum esset habendam sibi rationem putabat. quo modo ergo absolutus? omnino +πορπαπυμνᾳ. accusatorum incredibilis infantia, id est L. Lentuli L. f., quem fremunt omnes praevaricatum, deinde Pompei mira contentio, iudicum sordes. ac tamen xxxii condemnarunt xxxviii absolverunt. iudicia reliqua impendent.
{{pn|18.2|2}}nondum est plane expeditus. dices 'tu ergo haec quo modo fers?.' belle me hercule et in eo me valde amo. amisimus, mi Pomponi, omnem non modo sucum ac sanguinem sed etiam colorem et speciem pristinam civitatis. nulla est res publica quae delectet, in qua acquiescam. 'idne igitur' inquies 'facile fers?' id ipsum; recordor enim quam bella paulisper nobis gubernantibus civitas fuerit, quae mihi gratia relata sit. nullus dolor me angit unum omnia posse; dirumpuntur ii qui me aliquid posse doluerunt. multa mihi dant solacia, nec tamen ego de meo statu demigro, quaeque vita maxime est ad naturam ad eam me refero, ad litteras et studia nostra. dicendi laborem delectatione oratoria consolor; domus me et rura nostra delectant; non recordor unde ceciderim sed unde surrexerim. fratrem mecum et te si habebo, per me isti pedibus trahantur; vobis ἐμφιλοσοφῆσαι possum. locus ille animi nostri stomachus ubi habitabat olim concalluit; privata modo et domestica nos delectant. miram securitatem videbis; cuius plurimae me hercule partes sunt in tuo reditu; nemo enim in terris est mihi tam consentientibus sensibus.
{{pn|18.3|3}}sed accipe alia. res fluit ad interregnum, et est non nullus odor dictaturae, sermo quidem multus; qui etiam Gabinium apud timidos iudices adiuvit. candidati consulares omnes rei ambitus. accedit etiam Gabinius; quem P. Sulla non dubitans quin foris esset postularat contra dicente et nihil obtinente Torquato. sed omnes absolventur nec posthac quisquam damnabitur nisi qui hominem occiderit. hoc tamen agitur severius, itaque iudicia calent. M. Fulvius Nobilior condemnatus est; multi alii urbani ne respondent quidem.
{{pn|18.4|4}}quid aliud novi? etiam. absoluto Gabinio stomachantes alii iudices hora post Antiochum Gabinium nescio quem (e) Sopolidis pictoribus libertum, accensum Gabini, lege Papia condemnarunt. itaque dixit statim +resp. lege maiestatis ΟΥΣΟΙΜΡΙΣΑΜΑΦΙΗΙ+. Pomptinus vult a. d. iiii Non. Novembr. triumphare. huic obviam Cato et Servilius praetores ad portam et Q. Mucius tribunus. negant enim latum de imperio, et est latum hercule insulse. sed erit cum Pomptino Appius consul. Cato tamen adfirmat se vivo illum non triumphaturum. id ego puto ut multa eiusdem ad nihilum recasurum. Appius sine lege suo sumptu in Ciliciam cogitat.
{{pn|18.5|5}}A Quinto fratre et a Caesare accepi a. d. viiii Kal. Nov. xvii litteras datas a litoribus Britanniae proximis a. d. vi Kal. Octobr. confecta Britannia, obsidibus acceptis, nulla praeda, imperata tamen pecunia exercitum ex Britannia reportabant. Q. Pilius erat iam ad Caesarem profectus. tu, si aut amor in te est nostri ac tuorum aut ulla veritas aut etiam si sapis ac frui tuis commodis cogitas, adventare et prope adesse iam debes. non me hercule aequo animo te careo; te autem quid mirum, qui Dionysium tanto opere desiderem? quem quidem abs te cum dies venerit et ego et Cicero meus flagitabit. abs te proximas litteras habebam Epheso a. d. v Idus Sextil. datas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. Romae ex. m. Nov. a. 700 (54).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|19.1|1}}O exspectatas mihi tuas litteras! O gratum adventum! O constantiam promissi et fidem miram! O navigationem amandam! quam me hercule ego valde timebam recordans superioris tuae transmissionis δέρρεις. sed nisi fallor citius te quam scribis videbo. credo enim te putasse tuas mulieres in Apulia esse. quod cum secus erit, quid te Apulia moretur? num Vestorio dandi sunt dies et ille Latinus ἀττικισμὸς ex intervallo regustandus? quin tu huc advolas et invisis illius nostrae rei publicae +Germane putavi de nummis+ ante comitia tributim uno loco divisis palam, inde absolutum Gabinium dictaturam +fruere iustitio et omnium rerum licentia+.
{{pn|19.2|2}}perspice aequitatem animi mei et +ludum et contemptionem Seleucianae provinciae+ et me hercule cum Caesare suavissimam coniunctionem (haec enim me una ex hoc naufragio tabula delectat); qui quidem Quintum meum tuumque, di boni! quem ad modum tractat honore, dignitate, gratia! non secus ac si ego essem imperator. hiberna legionis eligendi optio delata commodum, ut ad me Quintus scribit. hunc tu non ames? quem igitur istorum? sed heus tu! scripseramne tibi me esse legatum Pompeio et extra urbem quidem fore ex Idibus Ianuarus? visum est hoc mihi ad multa quadrare. sed quid plura? Coram opinor reliqua, ut tu tamen aliquid exspectes. Dionysio plurimam salutem; cui quidem ego non modo servavi sed etiam aedificavi locum. quid quaeris? ad summam laetitiam meam quam ex tuo reditu capio magnus illius adventus cumulus accedet. quo die ad me venies, tu, si me amas, apud me cum tuis maneas.
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. Menturnis iii aut prid. Non. Mai. a. 703 (49).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|I.1|1}}Ego vero et tuum in discessu vidi animum et meo sum ipse testis. quo magis erit tibi videndum ne quid novi decernatur, ut hoc nostrum desiderium ne plus sit annuum. de Annio Saturnino curasti probe.
[2] de satis dando vero te rogo, quoad eris Romae tu ut satis des. et sunt aliquot satisdationes secundum mancipium veluti Mennianorum praediorum vel Atilianorum. de Oppio factum est (ut) volui, et maxime quod DCCC aperuisti. quae quidem ego utique vel versura facta solvi volo, ne extrema exactio nostrorum nominum exspectetur.
[3] nunc venio ad transversum illum extremae epistulae tuae versiculum in quo me admones de sorore. quae res se sic habet. Ut veni in Arpinas, cum ad me frater venisset, in primis nobis sermo isque multus de te fuit. ex quo ego veni ad ea quae fueramus ego et tu inter nos de sorore in Tusculano locuti. nihil tam vidi mite, nihil tam placatum quam tum meus frater erat in sororem tuam, ut, etiam si qua fuerat ex ratione sumptus offensio, non appareret. ille sic dies. postridie ex Arpinati profecti sumus. Ut in Arcano Quintus maneret dies fecit, ego Aquini, sed prandimus in Arcano. Nosti hunc fundum. quo ut venimus, humanissime Quintus ‘Pomponia’ inquit ‘tu invita mulieres, ego viros accivero.’ nihil potuit, mihi quidem ut visum est, dulcius idque cum verbis tum etiam animo ac vultu. at illa audientibus nobis ‘ego ipsa sum’ inquit ‘hic hospita,’ id autem ex eo, ut opinor, quod antecesserat Statius ut prandium nobis videret. tum Quintus ‘en’ inquit mihi ‘haec ego patior cotidie.’
[4] dices ‘quid quaeso istuc erat?’ Magnum; itaque me ipsum commoverat; sic absurde et aspere verbis vultuque responderat. dissimulavi dolens. discubuimus omnes praeter illam, cui tamen Quintus de mensa misit. illa reiecit. quid multa? nihil meo fratre lenius, nihil asperius tua sorore mihi visum est; et multa praetereo quae tum mihi maiori stomacho quam ipsi Quinto fuerunt. ego inde Aquinum. Quintus in Arcano remansit et Aquinum ad me postridie mane venit mihique narravit nec secum illam dormire voluisse (et) cum discessura esset fuisse eius modi qualem ego vidissem. quid quaeris? vel ipsi hoc dicas licet, humanitatem ei meo iudicio illo die defuisse. haec ad te scripsi fortasse pluribus quam necesse fuit, ut videres tuas quoque esse partis instituendi et monendi. reliquum est ut ante quam proficiscare mandata nostra exhaurias, scribas ad me omnia, Pomptinum extrudas, cum profectus eris cures ut sciam, sic habeas nihil me hercule te mihi nec carius esse nec suavius. A. Torquatum amantissime dimisi Menturnis, optimum virum; cui me ad te scripsisse aliquid in sermone significes velim.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. in Pompeiano vi Id. Mat a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|II.1|1}}A. d. vi Idus Maias, cum has dabam litteras, ex Pompeiano proficiscebar ut eo die manerem in Trebulano apud Pontium. deinde cogitabam sine ulla mora iusta itinera facere. in Cumano cum essem, venit ad me, quod mihi pergratum fuit, noster Hortensius; cui deposcenti mea mandata cetera universe mandavi, illud proprie, ne pateretur quantum esset in ipso prorogari nobis provincias. in quo eum tu velim confirmes gratumque mihi fecisse dicas quod et venerit ad me et hoc mihi praetereaque si quid opus esset promiserit. confirmavi ad eam causam etiam Furnium nostrum quem ad annum tribunum pl. videbam fore.
[2] habuimus in Cumano quasi pusillam Romam. tanta erat in his locis multitudo; cum interim rufio noster, quod se a Vestorio observari videbat, strategemate hominem percussit; nam ad me non accessit. itane? cum Hortensius veniret et infirmus et tam longe et Hortensius, cum maxima praeterea multitudo, ille non venit? non, inquam. ‘non vidisti igitur hominem?’ inquies. qui potui non videre cum per emporium Puteolanorum iter facerem? in quo illum agentem aliquid credo salutavi, post etiam iussi valere cum me exiens e sua villa numquid vellem rogasset. hunc hominem parum gratum quisquam putet aut non in eo ipso laudandum quod laudari non laborarit?
[3] sed redeo ad illud. noli putare mihi aliam consolationem esse huius ingentis molestiae nisi quod spero non longiorem annua fore. hoc me ita velle multi non credunt ex consuetudine aliorum; tu qui scis omnem diligentiam adhibebis tum scilicet cum id agi debebit, cum ex Epiro redieris. de re publica scribas ad me velim si quid erit quod † operare †. nondum enim satis huc erat adlatum quo modo Caesar ferret de auctoritate perscripta, eratque rumor de Transpadanis eos iussos iiii viros creare. quod si ita est, magnos motus timeo. sed aliquid ex Pompeio sciam.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. in. Trebulano v Id. Mai. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|III.1|1}}A. d. vi Idus Maias veni in Trebulanum ad Pontium. ibi mihi tuae litterae binae redditae sunt tertio abs te die. eodem autem exiens e Pompeiano Philotimo dederam ad te litteras; nec vero nunc erat sane quod scriberem. qui de re publica rumores scribe, quaeso; in oppidis enim summum video timorem sed multa inania. quid de his cogites et quando scire velim.
[2] ad quas litteras tibi rescribi velis nescio. nullas enim adhuc acceperam praeter quae mihi binae simul in Trebulano redditae sunt; quarum alterae edictum P. Licini habebant (erant autem Nonis Maus datae), alterae rescriptae ad meas Menturnensis. quam vereor ne quid fuerit {{Graeca|σπουδαιότερον}} in iis quas non accepi quibus rescribi vis! (apud) Lentulum ponam te in gratia.
[3] Dionysius nobis cordi est. Nicanor tuus operam mihi dat egregiam. iam deest quod scribam et lucet. Beneventi cogitabam hodie. nostra continentia et diligentia † esse satis faciemus satis. A Pontio ex Trebulano a. d. v Idus Maias.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. Bemaeventi iv Id. Mai a. 701 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|IV.1|1}}Beneventum veni a. d. v Idus Majas. ibi accepi eas litteras quas tu superioribus litteris significaveras te dedisse; ad quas ego eo ipso die dederam ex Trebulano a Pontio. ac binas quidem tuas Beneventi accepi quarum alteras Funisulanus multo mane mihi dedit, alteras scriba Tullius. gratissima est mihi tua cura de illo meo primo et maximo mandato; sed tua profectio spem meam debilitat. ac † me ille illud labat †, non quo—, sed inopia cogimur eo contenti esse. de illo altero quem scribis tibi visum esse non alienum, vereor adduci ut nostra possit, et tu ais {{Graeca|δυσδιάγνωστον}} esse. equidem sum facilis, sed tu aberis et me absente res (haerebit). habebis mei rationem. nam posset aliquid, si utervis nostrum adesset, agente Servilia Servio fieri probabile. nunc si iam res placeat, agendi tamen viam non video.
[2] nunc venio ad eam epistulam quam accepi a Tullio. de Marcello fecisti diligenter. igitur senatus consultum si erit factum, scribes ad me; si minus, rem tamen conficies; mihi enim attribui oportebit, item Bibulo. sed non dubito quin senatus consultum expeditum sit in quo praesertim sit compendium populi. de Torquato probe. de Masone et Ligure, cum venerint. de illo quod Chaerippus (quoniam hic quoque ‘{{Graeca|πρόσνευσιν}} sustulisti), o provincia! etiamne hic mihi curandus est? curandus autem hactenus ne qutd ad senatum ‘consule!’ aut ‘numera!’ nam de ceteris—sed tamen commode, quod cum Scrofa. de Pomptino recte scribis. est enim ita ut, si ante Kal. Iunias Brundisi futurus sit, minus urgendi fuerint M’. Anneius et (L.) Tullius.
[3] quae de Sicinio audisti ea mihi probantur, modo ne illa exceptio in aliquem incurrat bene de nobis meritum sed considerabimus, rem enim probo. de nostro itinere quod statuero, de quinque praefectis quid Pompeius facturus sit cum ex ipso cognoro faciam ut scias. de Oppio bene curasti quod ei de D̅C̅C̅C̅ exposuisti idque, quoniam Philotimum habes, perfice et cognosce rationem et ut agam planius, si me amas, prius quam proficiscaris effice. Magna me cura levaris.
[4] habes ad omnia. etsi paene praeterii chartam tibi deesse. mea captio est, si quidem eius inopia minus multa ad me scribis. tu vero aufer ducentos; etsi meam in eo parsimoniam huius paginae contractio significat. dum acta et rumores vel etiam si qua certa babes de Caesare exspecto. Litteras et aliis et Pomptino de omnibus rebus diligenter dabis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. Venusiae ii aut prid. Id. Mai. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|V.1|1}}Plane deest quod scribam; nam nec quod mandem habeo (nihil enim praetermissum est), nec quod narrem (novi enim nihil), nec iocandi locus est; ita me multa sollicitant. tantum tamen scito, Idibus Maus nos Venusia mane proficiscentis has dedisse. eo autem die credo aliquid actum in senatu. sequantur igitur nos tuae litterae quibus non modo res omnis sed etiam rumores cognoscamus. eas accipiemus Brundisi; ibi enim Pomptinum ad eam diem quam tu scripsisti exspectare consilium est.
[2] nos Tarenti quos cum Pompeio {{Graeca|διαλόγους}} de re publica habuerimus ad te perscribemus. etsi id ipsum scire cupio quod ad tempus recte ad te scribere possim, id est quam diu Romae futurus sis, ut aut quo dem posthac litteras sciam aut ne dem frustra. sed ante quam proficiscare, utique explicatum sit illud HS X̅X̅ et D̅C̅C̅C̅. hoc velim in maximis rebus et maxime necessariis habeas, ut quod auctore te velle coepi adiutore adsequar.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. Tarenti xiv K. Iun. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|VI.1|1}}Tarentum veni at d. xv Kal. Iunias. quod Pomptinum statueram exspectare, commodissimum duxi dies eos quoad ille veniret cum Pompeio consumere eoque magis quod ei gratum esse id videbam, qui etiam a me petierit ut secum et apud se essem cotidie. quod concessi libenter. multos enim eius praeclaros de re publica sermones accipiam, instruar etiam consiliis idoneis ad hoc nostrum negotium.
[2] sed ad te brevior iam in scribendo incipio fieri dubitans Romaene sis an iam profectus. quod tamen quoad ignorabo, scribam aliquid potius quam committam ut tibi cum possint reddi a me litterae non reddantur. nec tamen iam habeo quod aut mandem tibi aut narrem. mandavi omnia; quae quidem tu, ut polliceris, exhauries. narrabo cum aliquid habebo novi. illud tamen non desinam, dum adesse (te) putabo, de Caesaris nomine rogare ut confectum relinquas. avide exspecto tuas litteras et maxime ut norim tempus profectionis tuae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. Tarenti xi K. Iun. a. 705 (49).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|VII.1|1}}Cotidie vel potius in dies singulos breviores litteras ad te mitto; cotidie enim magis suspicor te in Epirum iam profectum. sed tamen ut mandatum scias me curasse, quo de ante, ait se Pompeius quinos praefectos delaturum novos vacationis iudiciariae causa. ego cum triduum cum Pompeio et apud Pompeium fuissem, proficiscebar Brundisium a. d. xi Kal. Iunias. civem illum egregium relinquebam et ad haec quae timentur propulsanda paratissimum. tuas litteras exspectabo cum ut quid agas tum (ut) ubi sis sciam.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Brundisi iv aut iii Nomm. Iun. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|VIII.1|1}}Me et incommoda valetudo, (e) qua iam emerseram utpote cum sine febri laborassem, et Pomptini exspectatio de quo adhuc ne rumor quidem venerat, tenebat duodecimum iam diem Brundisi; sed cursum exspectabamus.
[2] tu si modo es Romae (vix enim puto), sin es, hoc vehementer animadvertas velim. Roma acceperam litteras Milonem meum queri per litteras iniuriam meam quod Philotimus socius esset in bonis suis. id ego ita fieri volui de C. Duroni sententia quem et amicissimum Miloni perspexeram et talem virum qualem tu iudicas cognoram. eius autem consilium meumque hoc fuerat, primum ut in potestate nostra esset res, ne illum malus emptor alienus mancipiis quae permulta secum habet spoliaret, deinde ut Faustae .quoi cautum ille esse voluisset ratum esset. erat etiam illud ut ipsi nos si quid servari posset quam facillime servaremus. nunc rem totam perspicias velim; nobis enim scribuntur saepe maiora. si ille queritur, si scribit ad amicos, si idem Fausta vult, Philotimus, ut ego ei coram dixeram mihique ille receperat, ne sit invito Milone in bonis. nihil nobis fuerat tanti. sin haec leviora sunt, tu iudicabis. loquere cum Duronio. scripsi etiam ad Camillum, (ad Caelium), ad Lamiam eoque magis quod non confidebam Romae te esse. summa erit haec. statues ut ex fide, fama reque mea videbitur.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Acti xvii. K. Quint. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|IX.1|1}}Actium venimus a. d. xvii Kal. Quintilis, cum quidem et Corcyrae et Sybotis muneribus tuis quae et Araus et meus amicus Eutychides opipare et {{Graeca|φιλοπροσηνέστατα}} nobis congesserant epulati essemus Saliarem in modum. Actio maluimus iter facere pedibus qui incommodissime navigassemus, et Leucatam flectere molestum videbatur, actuariis autem minutis Patras accedere sine impedimentis non satis visum est decorum. ego, ut saepe tu me currentem hortatus es, cotidie meditor, praecipio meis, faciam denique ut summa modestia et summa abstinentia munus hoc extraordinarium traducamus. Parthus velim quiescat et fortuna nos iuvet, nostra praestabimus.
[2] tu quaeso quid agas, ubi quoque tempore futurus sis, qualis res nostras Romae reliqueris, maxime de X̅X̅ et D̅C̅C̅C̅ cura ut sciamus. id unis diligenter litteris datis quae ad me utique perferantur consequere. illud tamen, quoniam nunc abes cum id non agitur, aderis autem ad tempus, ut mihi recepisti, memento curare per te et per omnis nostros, in primis per Hortensium, ut annus noster maneat suo statu, ne quid novi decernatur. hoc tibi ita mando ut dubitem an etiam te rogem ut pugnes ne intercaletur. sed non audeo tibi omnia onera imponere; annum quidem utique teneto. Cicero meus, modestissimus et suavissimus puer, tibi salutem dicit. Dionysium semper equidem, ut scis, dilexi, sed cotidie pluris facio et me hercule in primis quod te amat nec tui mentionem intermitti sinit.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. Athenis prid. K. aut K. Quint. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|X.1|1}}Ut Athenas a. d. vi Kal. Quintilis veneram, exspectabam ibi iam quartum diem Pomptinum neque de eius adventu certi quicquam habebam. eram autem totus, crede mihi, tecum et, quamquam sine iis per me ipse, tamen acrius vestigiis tuis monitus de te cogitabam. quid quaeris? non me hercule alius ullus sermo nisi de te.
[2] sed tu de me ipso aliquid scire fortasse mavis. haec sunt. adhuc sumptus nec in me aut publice aut privatim nec in quemquam comitum. nihil accipitur lege Iulia, nihil ab hospite. persuasum est omnibus meis serviendum esse famae meae. belle adhuc. hoc animadversum Graecorum laude et multo sermone celebratur. quod superest, elaboratur in hoc a me, sicut tibi sensi placere. sed haec tum laudemus cum erunt perorata.
[3] reliqua sunt eius modi ut meum consilium saepe reprehendam quod non aliqua ratione ex hoc negotio emerserim. O rem minime aptam meis moribus! o illud verum {{Graeca|ἔρδοι τις}}! dices ‘quid adhuc? nondum enim in negotio versaris?’ sane scio et puto molestiora restare. etsi haec ipsa fero equidem fronte, ut puto, et vultu bellissime sed angor intimis sensibus; ita multa vel iracunde vel insolenter vel in omni genere stulte insulse adroganter et dicuntur et tacentur cotidie; quae non quo te celem non perscribo sed quia {{Graeca|δυσεξείλητα}} sunt. itaque admirabere meam {{Graeca|βαθύτητα}} cum salvi redierimus; tanta mihi {{Graeca|μελέτη}} huius virtutis datur.
[4] ergo haec quoque hactenus; etsi mihi nihil erat propositum ad scribendum, quia quid ageres, ubi terrarum esses, ne suspicabar quidem. nec hercule umquam tam diu ignarus rerum mearum fui, quid de Caesaris, quid de Milonis nominibus actum sit; ac non modo nemo domo (sed) ne Roma quidem quisquam, ut sciremus in re publica quid ageretur. qua re si quid erit quod scias de iis rebus quas putabis scire me velle, per mihi gratum erit si id curaris ad me perferendum.
[5] quid est praeterea? nihil sane nisi illud. valde me Athenae delectarunt urbe dumtaxat et urbis ornamento et hominum amore in te et in nos quadam benevolentia; † sed .multum ea philosophia sursum deorsum †, si quidem est in Aristo, apud quem eram. nam Xenonem tuum vel nostrum potius Quinto concesseram, et tamen propter vicinitatem totos dies simul eramus. tu velim cum primum poteris tua consilia ad me scribas, ut sciam quid agas, ubi quoque (tempore), maxime quando Romae futurus sis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. Athenis pr. Non. Quint. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XI.1|1}}Hui, totiensne me litteras dedisse Romam, cum ad te nullas darem? at vero posthac frustra potius dabo quam, si recte dari potuerint, committam ut non dem. ne provincia nobis prorogetur, per fortunas! dum ades, quicquid provideri (poterit) provide. non dici potest quam flagrem desiderio urbis, quam vix harum rerum insulsitatem feram.
[2] Marcellus foede in Comensi. etsi ille magistratum non gesserat, erat tamen Transpadanus. ita mihi videtur non minus stomachi nostro (quam) Caesari fecisse. sed hoc ipse viderit.
[3] Pompeius mihi quoque videbatur, quod scribis a Varronem dicere, in Hispaniam certe iturus. id ego minime probabam; qui quidem Theophani facile persuasi nihil esse melius quam illum nusquam discedere. ergo Graecus incumbet. valet autem auctoritas eius apud illum plurimum.
[4] ego has pr. Nonas Quintilis proficiscens Athenis dedi, cum ibi decem ipsos fuissem dies. venerat Pomptinus, una Cn. Volusius; aderat quaestor; tuus unus Tullius aberat. aphracta Rhodiorum et dicrota Mytilenaeorum habebam et aliquid {{Graeca|ἐπικώπων}}. de Parthis erat silentium. quod superest, di iuvent!
[5] nos adhuc iter per Graeciam summa cum admiratione fecimus, nec me hercule habeo quod adhuc quem accusem meorum. videntur mihi nosse nostram causam et condicionem profectionis suae; plane serviunt existimationi meae. quod superest, si verum illud est {{Graeca|οἵαπερ ἡ δέσποινα}}, certe permanebunt. nihil enim a me fieri ita videbunt ut sibi sit delinquendi locus. sin id parum profuerit, fiet aliquid a nobis severius. nam adhuc lenitate dulces sumus et, ut spero, proficimus aliquantum. sed ego hanc, ut Siculi dicunt, {{Graeca|ἀνεξίαν}} in unum annum meditatus sum. proinde pugna ne, si quid prorogatum sit, turpis inveniar.
[6] nunc redeo ad quae mihi mandas. † in praefectis excusatio iis †, quos voles deferto. non ero tam {{Graeca|μετέωρος}} quam in Appuleio fui. Xenonem tam diligo quam tu, quod ipsum sentire certo scio. apud Patronem et reliquos barones te in maxima gratia posui et hercule merito tuo feci. nam mihi Ister dixit te scripsisse ad se mihi ex illius litteris rem illam curae fuisse, quod ei pergratum erat. sed cum Patro mecum egisset ut peterem a vestro Ariopago {{Graeca|ὑπομνηματισμὸν}} tollerent quem Polycharmo praetore fecerant, commodius visum est et Xenoni et post ipsi Patroni me ad Memmium scribere, qui pridie quam ego Athenas veni Mytilenas profectus erat, ut is ad suos scriberet posse id sua voluntate fieri. non enim dubitabat Xeno quin ab Ariopagitis invito Memmio impetrari non posset. Memmius autem aedificandi consilium abiecerat; sed erat Patroni iratus. itaque scripsi ad eum accurate; cuius epistulae misi ad te exemplum.
[7] tu velim Piliam meis verbis consolere. indicabo enim tibi, tu illi nihil dixeris. accepi fasciculum in quo erat epistula Piliae. abstuli, aperui, legi. valde scripta est {{Graeca|συμπαθῶς}}. Brundisio quae tibi epistulae redditae sunt sine mea, tum videlicet datas cum ego me non belle haberem. nam illam {{Graeca|νομαναρια}} me excusationem.ne acceperis. cura ut omnia sciam sed maxime ut valeas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. in medio mari med. m. Quint. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XII.1|1}}Negotium magnum est navigare atque id mense Quintili. Sexto die Delum Athenis venimus. Pr. Nonas Quintilis a Piraeo ad Zostera vento molesto, qui nos ibidem Nonis tenuit. ante viii Idus ad Ceo iucunde; inde Gyarum saevo vento non adverso; hinc Syrum, inde Delum, utroque citius quam vellemus, cursum confecimus. nam nosti aphracta Rhodiorum; nihil quod minus fluctum ferre possit. itaque erat in animo nihil festinare nec me Delo movere nisi omnia {{Graeca|ἄκρα Γυρέων}} pura vidissem.
[2] de Messalla ad te statim ut audivi de Gyaro dedi litteras et id ipsum consilium nostrum etiam ad Hortensium cui quidem valde {{Graeca|συνηγωνίων}}. sed tuas de eius iudici sermonibus et me hercule omni de rei publicae statu litteras exspecto {{Graeca|πολιτικώτερον}} quidem scriptas, quoniam meos cum Thallumeto nostro pervolutas libros, eius modi inquam litteras ex quibus ego non quid fiat (nam id vel Helonius, vir gravissimus, potest efficere, cliens tuus) sed quid futurum sit sciam. Cum haec leges, habebimus consules. omnia perspicere poteris de Caesare, de Pompeio, de ipsis iudiciis.
[3] nostra autem negotia, quoniam Romae commoraris, amabo te, explica. cui rei fugerat me rescribere, de strue laterum, plane rogo, de aqua, si quid poterit fieri, eo sis animo quo soles esse; quam ego cum mea sponte tum tuis sermonibus aestimo plurimi. ergo tu id conficies. praeterea si quid Philippus rogabit quod in tua re faceres, id velim facias. plura scribam ad te cum constitero. nunc eram plane in medio mari.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Ephesi vii K. Sext. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XIII.1|1}}Ephesum venimus a. d. xi Kal. Sextilis sexagesimo et quingentesimo post pugnam Bovillanam. navigavimus sine timore et sine nausea sed tardius propter aphractorum Rhodiorum imbecillitatem. de concursu legationum, privatorum et de incredibili multitudine quae mihi iam Sami sed mirabilem in modum Ephesi praesto fuit aut audisse te puto aut ‘quid ad me attinet?’ verum tamen decumani (quasi) venissem cum imperio, Graeci quasi Ephesio praetori se alacres obtulerunt. ex quo te intellegere certo scio multorum annorum ostentationes meas nunc in discrimen esse adductas. sed ut spero, utemur ea palaestra quam a te didicimus omnibusque satis faciemus et eo facilius quod in nostra provincia confectae sunt pactiones. sed hactenus, praesertim cum cenanti mihi nuntiarit Cestius se de nocte proficisci.
[2] tua negotiola Ephesi curae mihi fuerunt, Thermoque, tametsi ante adventum meum liberalissime erat pollicitus tuis omnibus, tamen Philogenem et Seium tradidi, Apollonidensem Xenonem commendavi. omnino omnia se facturum recepit. ego praeterea rationem Philogeni permutationis eius quam tecum feci edidi. ergo haec quoque hactenus.
[3] redeo ad urbana. per fortunas! quoniam Romae manes, primum illud praefulci atque praemuni quaeso ut simus annui, ne intercaletur quidem. deinde exhauri mea mandata maximeque si quid potest de illo domestico scrupulo quem non ignoras, dein de Caesare cuius in cupiditatem te auctore incubui nec me piget. et si intellegis quam meum sit scire et curare quid in re publica fiat—fiat autem? immo vero etiam quid futurum sit, perscribe ad me omnia, sed diligentissime imprimisque ecquid iudiciorum status aut factorum aut futurorum etiam laboret. de aqua, si curae est, si quid Philippus aget animadvertes.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Trallibus vi K. Sext. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XIV.1|1}}Ante quam aliquo loco consedero, neque longas a me neque semper mea manu litteras exspectabis; cum autem erit spatium, utrumque praestabo. nunc iter conficiebamus aestuosa et pulverulenta via. dederam Epheso pridie; has dedi Trallibus. in provincia mea fore me putabam Kal. Sextilibus. ex ea die, si me amas, {{Graeca|παράπηγμα ἐνιαύσιον}} commoveto. interea tamen haec mihi quae vellem adferebantur, primum otium Parthicum, dein confectae pactiones publicanorum, postremo seditio militum sedata ab Appio stipendiumque eis usque ad Idus Quintilis persolutum.
[2] nos Asia accepit admirabiliter. adventus noster nemini ne minimo quidem fuit sumptui. spero meos omnis servire laudi meae. tamen magno timore sum sed bene speramus. omnes iam nostri praeter Tullium tuum venerunt. erat mihi in animo recta proficisci ad exercitum, aestivos mensis reliquos rei militari dare, hibernos iuris dictioni.
[3] tu velim, si me nihilo minus nosti curiosum in re publica quam te, scribas ad me omnia quae sint, quae futura sint. nihil mihi gratius facere potes; nisi tamen id erit mihi gratissimum, si quae tibi mandavi confeceris imprimisque illud {{Graeca|ἐνδόμυχον}}, quo mihi scis nihil esse carius. habes epistulam plenam festinationis et pulveris; reliquae subtiliores erunt.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. Laodiceae ili Non. Sext. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XV.1|1}}Laodiceam veni pridie Kal. Sextilis. ex hoc die clavum anni movebis. nihil exoptatius adventu meo, nihil carius. sed est incredibile quam me negoti taedeat, non habeat satis magnum campum ille tibi non ignotus cursus animi et industriae meae, praeclara opera cesset. quippe, ius Laodiceae me dicere, cum Romae A. Plotius dicat, et, cum exercitum noster amicus habeat tantum, me nomen habere duarum legionum exilium? denique haec non desidero, lucem, forum, urbem, domum, vos desidero. sed feram ut potero, sit modo annuum. si prorogatur, actum est. verum perfacile resisti potest, tu modo Romae sis.
[2] quaeris quid hic agam. ita vivam ut maximos sumptus facio. mirifice delector hoc instituto. admirabilis abstinentia ex praeceptis tuis, ut verear ne illud quod tecum permutavi versura mihi solvendum sit. Appi vulnera non refrico, sed apparent nec occuli possunt. iter Laodicea faciebam a. d. iii Non. Sextilis, cum has litteras dabam, in castra in Lycaoniam. Inde ad Taurum cogitabam, ut cum Moeragene signis collatis, si possem, de servo tuo deciderem. ‘clitellae bovi sunt impositae; plane non est nostrum onus.’ sed feremus, modo, si me amas, sim annuus adsis tu ad tempus ut senatum totum excites. mirifice sollicitus sum quod iam diu mihi ignota sunt ista omnia. qua re ut ad te ante scripsi, cum cetera tum res publica cura ut mihi nota sit. plura scribam † tarde tibi redditu iri †, sed dabam familiari homini ac domestico, C. Andronico Puteolano. tu autem saepe dare tabellariis publicanorum poteris per magistros scripturae et portus nostrarum dioecesium.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere a Synnada ad Philomellum inter a. d. v et iii Id. Sext. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XVI.1|1}}Etsi in ipso itinere et via discedebant publicanorum tabellarii et eramus in cursu, tamen surripiendum aliquid putavi spati, ne me immemorem mandati tui putares. itaque subsedi in ipsa via, dum haec quae longiorem desiderant orationem summatim tibi perscriberem.
[2] maxima exspectatione in perditam et plane eversam in perpetuum provinciam nos venisse scito pridie Kal. Sextilis, moratos triduum Laodiceae, triduum Apameae, totidem dies Synnade. audivimus nihil aliud nisi imperata {{Graeca|ἐπικεφάλαια}} solvere non posse, {{Graeca|ὠνὰς}} omnium venditas, civitatum gemitus, ploratus, monstra quaedam non hominis sed ferae nescio cuius immanis. quid quaeris? taedet omnino eos vitae.
[3] levantur tamen miserae civitates quod nullus fit sumptus in nos neque in legatos neque in quaestorem neque in quemquam. scito non modo nos foenum aut quod e lege Iulia dari solet non accipere sed ne ligna quidem, nec praeter quattuor lectos et tectum quemquam accipere quicquam, multis locis ne tectum quidem et in tabernaculo manere plerumque. itaque incredibilem in modum concursus fiunt ex agris, ex vicis, ex domibus omnibus. me hercule etiam adventa nostro reviviscunt. iustitia, abstinentia, clementia tui Ciceronis [itaque] opiniones omnium superavit.
[4] Appius ut audivit nos venire, in ultimam provinciam se coniecit Tarsum usque. ibi forum agit. de Partho silentium est, sed tamen concisos equites nostros a barbaris nuntiabant ii qui veniebant. Bibulus ne cogitabat quidem etiam nunc in provinciam suam accedere; id autem facere ob eam causam dicebant quod tardius vellet decedere. nos in castra properabamus quae aberant tridui.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere ad castra inter iv Id. a prid. Id. Sext. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XVII.1|1}}Accepi Roma sine epistula tua fasciculum litterarum; in quo, si modo valuisti et Romae fuisti, Philotimi duco esse culpam, non tuam. haud epistulam dictavi sedens in raeda, cum in castra proficiscerer a quibus aberam bidui. paucis diebus habebam certos homines quibus darem litteras. itaque eo me servavi.
[2] nos tamen, etsi hoc te ex aliis audire malo, sic in provincia nos gerimus, quod ad abstinentiam attinet, ut nullus terruncius insumatur in quemquam. id fit etiam et legatorum et tribunorum et praefectorum diligentia; nam omnes mirifice {{Graeca|συμφιλοδοξοῦσιν}} gloriae meae. Lepta noster mirificus est. sed nunc propero. perscribam ad te paucis diebus omnia.
[3] Cicerones nostros Deiotarus filius, qui rex ab senatu appellatus est, secum in regnum. dum in aestivis nos essemus, illum pueris locum esse bellissimum duximus.
[4] Sestius ad me scripsit quae tecum esset de mea domestica et maxima cura locutus et quid tibi esset visum. amabo te, incumbe in eam rem et ad me scribe quid et possit et tu censeas. idem scripsit Hortensium de proroganda nostra provincia dixisse nescio quid. mihi in Cumano diligentissime se ut annui essemus defensurum receperat. si quicquam me amas, hunc locum muni. dici non potest quam invitus a vobis absim; et simul hanc gloriam iustitiae et abstinentiae fore inlustriorem spero si cito decesserimus, id quod Scaevolae contigit qui solos novem mensis Asiae praefuit.
[6] Appius noster cum me adventare videret, profectus est Tarsum usque Laodicea. ibi forum agit, cum ego sim in provincia. quam eius iniuriam non insector. satis enim habeo negoti in sanandis vulneribus quae sunt imposita provinciae; quod do operam ut faciam quam minima cum illius contumelia. sed hoc Bruto nostro velim dicas, illum fecisse non belle qui adventu meo quam longissime potuerit discesserit.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. in castris ad Cybistra xi K. Oct. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XVIII.1|1}}Quam vellem Romae esses, si forte non es! nihil enim certi habebamus nisi accepisse nos tuas litteras a. d. xiiii Kal. Sextil. datas, in quibus scriptum esset te in Epirum iturum circiter Kal. Sextil. sed sive Romae es sive in Epiro, Parthi Euphraten transierunt duce Pacoro, Orodis regis Parthorum filio, (cum) cunctis fere copiis. Bibulus nondum audiebatur esse in Syria; Cassius in oppido Antiochia est cum omni exercitu, nos in Cappadocia ad Taurum cum exercitu ad Cybistra; hostis in Cyrrhestica quae Syriae pars proxima est provinciae meae. his de rebus scripsi ad senatum, quas litteras, si Romae es, videbis putesne reddendas et multa, immo omnia, quorum {{Graeca|κεφάλαιον}} ne quid inter caesa et porrecta, ut aiunt, oneris mihi addatur aut temporis. nobis enim hac infirmitate exercitus inopia sociorum, praesertim fidelium, certissimum subsidium est hiems. ea si venerit nec illi ante in meam provinciam transierint, unum vereor ne senatus propter urbanarum rerum metum Pompeium nolit dimittere. quod si alium ad ver mittit, non laboro, nobis modo temporis ne quid prorogetur.
[2] haec igitur, si es Romae; sin abes aut etiam si ades, haec negotia sic se habent. stamus animis et, quia consiliis, ut videmur, bonis utimur, speramus etiam manu. tuto consedimus copioso a frumento, Ciliciam prope conspiciente, expedito ad mutandum loco, parvo exercitu sed, ut spero, ad benevolentiam erga nos consentiente. quem nos Deiotari adventu cum suis omnibus copiis duplicaturi eramus. sociis multo fidelioribus utimur quam quisquam usus est; quibus incredibilis videtur nostra et mansuetudo et abstinentia. dilectus habetur civium Romanorum; frumentum ex agris in loca tuta comportatur. si fuerit occasio, manu, si minus, locis nos defendemus.
[3] qua re bono animo es. video enim te et, quasi coram adsis, ita cerno {{Graeca|συμπάθειαν}} amoris tui. sed te rogo, si ullo pacto fieri poterit, si integra in senatu nostra causa ad Kal. Ianuarias manserit, ut Romae sis mense Ianuario. profecto nihil accipiam iniuriae, si tu aderis. amicos consules habemus, nostrum tribunum pl. Furnium. verum tua est opus adsiduitate, prudentia, gratia. tempus est necessarium. sed turpe est me pluribus verbis agere tecum.
[4] Cicerones nostri sunt apud Deiotarum sed, si opus erit, deducentur Rhodum. tu si es Romae, ut soles, diligentissime, si in Epiro, mitte tamen ad nos de tuis aliquem tabellarium, ut et (tu) quid nos agamus et nos quid tu agas quidque acturus sis scire possimus. ego tui Bruti rem sic ago ut suam ipse non ageret. sed iam exhibeo pupillum neque defendo; sunt enim negotia et lenta et inania. faciam tamen satis tibi quidem cui difficilius est quam ipsi; sed certe satis faciam utrique.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. in castris ad Cybistin x K. Oct. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XIX.1|1}}Obsignaram iam epistulam eam, quam puto te modo perlegisse scriptam mea manu in qua omnia continentur, cum subito Apellae tabellarius a. d. xi Kal. Octobris septimo quadragesimo die Roma celeriter (hui tam longe!) mihi tuas litteras reddidit. ex quibus non dubito quin tu Pompeium exspectaris dum Arimino rediret et iam in Epirum profectus sis, magisque vereor, ut scribis, ne in Epiro sollicitus sis non minus quam nos hic sumus. de Atiliano nomine scripsi ad Philotimum ne appellaret Messallam.
[2] itineris nostri famam ad te pervenisse laetor magisque laetabor si reliqua cognoris. filiolam tuam tibi † iam Romae † iucundam esse gaudeo, eamque quam numquam vidi tamen et amo et amabilem esse certo scio. etiam atque etiam vale.
[3] de Patrone et tuis condiscipulis quae de parietinis in Melita laboravi ea tibi grata esse gaudeo. quod scribis libente te repulsam tulisse eum qui cum sororis tuae fili patruo certarit, magni amoris signum. itaque me etiam admonuisti ut gauderem; nam mihi in mentem non venerat. ‘non credo’ inquis. Ut libet; sed plane gaudeo, quoniam {{Graeca|τὸ νεμεσᾶν}} interest {{Graeca|τοῦ φθονεῖν}}.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XX.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cilicia inter a. d. xii et iv K. Ian. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XX.1|1}}Saturnalibus mane se mihi Pindenissitae dediderunt septimo et quinquagesimo die postquam oppugnare eos coepimus. ‘qui malum! isti Pindenissitae qui sunt?’ inquies; ‘nomen audivi numquam.’ quid ego faciam? num potui Ciliciam Aetoliam aut Macedoniam reddere? hoc iam sic habeto nec hoc exercitu (nec) hic tanta negotia geri potuisse. quae cognosce {{Graeca|ἐν ἐπιτομῇ}}; sic enim concedis mihi proximis litteris. Ephesum ut venerim nosti, qui etiam mihi gratulatus es illius diei celebritatem qua nihil me umquam delectavit magis. Inde (in) oppidis iis † quae erant † mirabiliter accepti Laodiceam pridie Kal. Sextilis venimus. ibi morati biduum perinlustres fuimus honorificisque verbis omnis iniurias revellimus superiores, quod idem (Colossis), dein Apameae quinque dies morati et Synnadis triduum, Philomeli quinque dies, Iconi decem fecimus. nihil ea iuris dictione aequabilius, nihil lenius, nihil gravius.
[2] Inde in castra veni a. d. VII Kalendas Septembris. A. d. III exercitum lustravi apud Iconium. ex his castris, cum graves de Parthis nuntii venirent, perrexi in Ciliciam per Cappadociae partem eam quae Ciliciam attingit, eo consilio ut Armenius Artavasdes et ipsi Parthi Cappadocia se excludi putarent. Cum dies quinque ad Cybistra [Cappadociae] castra habuissem, certior sum factus Parthos ab illo aditu Cappadociae longe abesse, Ciliciae magis imminere. itaque confestim iter in Ciliciam feci per Tauri pylas. Tarsum veni a. d. III Nonas Octobris.
[3] Inde ad Amanum contendi qui Syriam a Cilicia in aquarum divertio dividit; qui mons erat hostium plenus sempiternorum. hic a. d. iii Idus Octobr. magnum numerum hostium occidimus. castella munitissima nocturno Pomptini adventu, nostro matutino cepimus, incendimus. imperatores appellati sumus. castra paucos dies habuimus ea ipsa quae contra Darium habuerat apud Issum Alexander, imperator haud paulo melior quam aut tu aut ego. ibi dies quinque morati direpto et vastato Amano inde discessimus. interim (scis enim dici quaedam {{Graeca|πανικά}}, dici item {{Graeca|τὰ κενὰ τοῦ πολέμου}}) rumore adventus nostri et Cassio qui Antiochia tenebatur animus accessit et Parthis timor iniectus est. itaque eos cedentis ab oppido Cassius insecutus rem bene gessit. qua in fuga magna auctoritate Osaces dux Parthorum vulnus accepit eoque interiit paucis post diebus. erat in Syria nostrum nomen in gratia.
[4] venit interim Bibulus; credo, voluit appellatione hac inani nobis esse par. in eodem Amano coepit loreolam in mustaceo quaerere. at ille cohortem primam totam perdidit centurionemque primi pili nobilem sui generis Asinium Dentonem et reliquos cohortis eiusdem et Sex. Lucilium, T. Gavi Caepionis locupletis et splendidi hominis filium, tribunum militum sane plagam odiosam acceperat cum re tum tempore. nos ad Pindenissum, quod oppidum munitissimum Eleutherocilicum omnium memoria in armis fuit. feri homines et acres et omnibus rebus ad defendendum parati. cinximus vallo et fossa; aggere maximo, vineis, turre altissima, magna tormentorum copia, multis sagittariis, magno labore, apparatu multis sauciis nostris, incolumi exercitu negotium confecimus. hilara sane Saturnalia militibus quoque quibus equis exceptis reliquam praedam concessimus. mancipia venibant Saturnalibus tertiis. Cum haec scribebam, in tribunali res erat ad HS C̅X̅X̅. hinc exercitum in hiberna agri male pacati deducendum Quinto fratri dabam; ipse me Laodiceam recipiebam.
[6] haec adhuc. sed ad praeterita revertamur. quod me maxime hortaris et quod pluris est quam omnia, in quo laboras ut etiam Ligurino {{Graeca|Μώμῳ}} satis faciamus, moriar si quicquam fieri potest elegantius. nec iam ego hanc continentiam appello, quae virtus voluptati resistere videtur. ego in vita mea nulla umquam voluptate tanta sum adfectus quanta adficior hac integritate, nec me tam fama quae summa est quam res ipsa delectat. quid quaeris? fuit tanti. me ipse non noram nec satis sciebam quid in hoc genere facere possem. recte {{Graeca|πεφυσίωμαι}}. nihil est praeequis carius. interim haec {{Graeca|λαμπρά}}. Ariobarzanes opera mea vivit, regnat; {{Graeca|ἐν παρόδῳ}} consilio et auctoritate et quod insidiatoribus eius {{Graeca|ἀπρόσιτον}} me non modo {{Graeca|ἀδωροδόκητον}} praebui regem regnumque servavi. interea e Cappadocia ne pilum quidem. Brutum abiectum quantum potui excitavi; quem non minus amo quam tu, paene dixi quam te. atque etiam spero toto anno imperi nostri terruncium sumptus in provincia nullum fore.
[7] habes omnia. nunc publice litteras Romam mittere parabam. Vberiores erunt quam si ex Amano misissem. at te Romae non fore! sed est totum (in eo) quid Kalendis Martiis futurum sit. vereor enim ne cum de provincia agetur, si Caesar resistet, nos retineamur. his tu si adesses, nihil timerem.
[8] redeo ad urbana quae ego diu ignorans ex tuis iucundissimis litteris a. d. v Kal. Ianuarias denique cognovi. eas diligentissime Philogenes, libertus tuus, curavit perlonga et non satis tuta via perferendas. nam quas Laeni pueris scribis datas non acceperam. iucunda de Caesare et quae senatus decrevit et quae tu speras. quibus ille si cedit, salvi sumus. incendio Plaetoriano quod Seius ambustus es minus moleste fero. Lucceius de Q. Cassio cur tam vehemens fuerit et quid actum sit aveo scire.
[9] ego cum Laodiceam venero, Quinto sororis tuae filio togam puram iubeor dare; cui moderabor diligentius. Deiotarus cuius auxiliis magnis usus sum ad me, ut scripsit, cum Ciceronibus Laodiceam venturus erat. tuas etiam Epiroticas exspecto litteras, ut habeam rationem non modo negoti verum etiam oti tui. Nicanor in officio est et a me liberaliter tractatur. quem, ut puto, Romam cum litteris publicis mittam, ut et diligentius perferantur et idem ad me certa de te et a te referat. Alexis quod mihi totiens salutem adscribit est gratum; sed cur non suis litteris idem facit quod meus ad te Alexis facit? Phemio quaeritur {{Graeca|κέρας}}. sed haec hactenus. cura ut valeas et ut sciam quando cogites Romam. etiam atque etiam vale.
[10] tua tuosque Thermo et praesens Ephesi diligentissime commendaram et nunc per litteras ipsumque intellexi esse perstudiosum tui. tu velim, quod antea ad te scripsi, de domo Pammeni des operam ut quod tuo meoque beneficio puer habet cures ne qua ratione convellatur. Utrique nostrum honestum existimo; tum mihi erit pergratum.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXI.}}}}<br>Scr. Laodiceae Id. Febr. a. 704 (50).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|XXI.1|1}}Ite in Epirum salvum venisse et, ut scribis, ex sententia navigasse vehementer gaudeo, non esse Romae meo tempore pernecessario submoleste fero. hoc me tamen consolor uno: spero te istic iucunde hiemare et libenter requiescere.
[2] C. Cassius, frater Q. Cassi familiaris tui, pudentiores illas litteras miserat de quibus tu ex me requiris quid sibi voluerint quam eas quas postea misit, quibus per se scribit confectum esse Parthicum bellum. recesserant illi quidem ab Antiochia ante Bibuli adventum sed nullo nostro {{Graeca|εὐημερήματι}}; hodie vero hiemant in Cyrrhestica, maximumque bellum impendet. nam et Orodi regis Parthorum filius in provincia nostra est, nec dubitat Deiotarus, cuius filio pacta est Artavasdis filia ex quo sciri potest, quin cum omnibus copiis ipse prima aestate Euphraten transiturus sit. quo autem die Cassi litterae victrices in senatu recitatae sunt, datae Nonis Octobribus, eodem meae tumultum nuntiantes. Axius noster ait nostras auctoritatis plenas fuisse, illis negat creditum. Bibuli nondum erant adlatae; quas certo scio plenas timoris fore.
[3] ex his rebus hoc vereor ne cum Pompeius propter metum rerum novarum nusquam dimittatur, Caesari nullus honos a senatu habeatur, dum hic nodus expediatur, non putet senatus nos ante quam successum sit oportere decedere nec in tanto motu rerum tantis provinciis singulos legatos praeesse. hic ne quid mihi prorogetur, quod ne intercessor quidem sustinere possit, horreo atque eo magis quod tu abes qui consilio, gratia, studio multis rebus occurreres. sed dices me ipsum mihi sollicitudinem struere. cogor ut velim ita sit; sed omnia metuo. etsi bellum {{Graeca|ἀκροτελεύτιον}} habet illa tua epistula quam dedisti nauseans Buthroto, ‘tibi, ut video et spero, nulla ad decedendum erit mora.’ mallem ‘ut video,’ nihil opus fuit ‘ut spero.’
[4] acceperam autem satis celeriter Iconi per publicanorum tabellarios a Lentuli triumpho datas. in his {{Graeca|γλυκύπικρον}} illud confirmas moram mihi nullam fore; deinde addis, si quid secus, te ad me esse venturum. angunt me dubitationes tuae; simul et vides quas acceperim litteras. nam quas Hermonis centurionis caculae ipse scribis te dedisse non accepi. Laeni pueris te dedisse saepe ad me scripseras. eas Laodiceae denique, cum eo venissem, iii Idus Februar. Laenius mihi reddidit datas a. d. x Kal. Octobris. Laenio tuas commendationes et statim verbis et reliquo tempore re probabo. eae litterae cetera vetera habebant, unum hoc novum de Cibyratis pantheris. multum te amo quod respondisti M. Octavio te non putare. sed posthac omnia quae recta non erunt pro certo negato. nos enim et nostra sponte bene firmi et me hercule auctoritate tua inflammati vicimus omnis (hoc tu ita reperies) cum abstinentia tum iustitia, facilitate, clementia. cave putes quicquam homines magis umquam esse miratos quam nullum terruncium me obtinente provinciam sumptus factum esse nec in rem publicam nec in quemquam meorum praeter quam in L. Tullium legatum. is ceteroqui abstinens sed Iulia lege transitans, semel tamen in diem, non ut alii solebant omnibus vicis (praeter eum semel nemo accepit), facit ut mihi excipiendus sit, cum terruncium nego sumptus factum. praeter eum accepit nemo. has a nostro Q. Titinio sordis accepimus.
[6] ego aestivis confectis Quintum fratrem hibernis et Ciliciae praefeci. Q. Volusium tui Tiberi generum, certum hominem sed mirifice etiam abstinentem, misi in Cyprum ut ibi pauculos dies esset, ne cives Romani pauci qui illic negotiantur ius sibi dictum negarent; nam evocari ex insula
[7] Cyprios non licet. ipse in Asiam profectus sum Tarso Nonis Ianuariis, non me hercule dici potest qua admiratione Ciliciae civitatum maximeque Tarsensium. postea veroquam Taurum transgressus sum, mirifica exspectatio Asiae nostrarum dioecesium quae sex mensibus imperi mei nullas meas acceperat litteras, numquam hospitem viderat. illud autem tempus quotannis ante me fuerat in hoc quaestu. civitates locupletes ne in hiberna milites reciperent magnas pecunias dabant, Cyprii talenta Attica cc; qua ex insula (non {{Graeca|ὑπερβολικῶς}} sed verissime loquor) nummus nullus me obtinente erogabitur. ob haec beneficia quibus illi obstupescunt nullos honores mihi nisi verborum decerni sino, statuas, fana, {{Graeca|τέθριππα}} prohibeo nec sum in ulla re alia molestus civitatibus—sed fortasse tibi qui haec praedicem de me. perfer, si me amas; tu enim me haec facere voluisti.
[8] iter igitur ita per Asiam feci ut etiam fames qua nihil miserius est, quae tum erat in hac mea Asia (messis enim nulla fuerat), mihi optanda fuerit. quacumque iter feci, nulla vi, nullo iudicio, nulla contumelia, auctoritate et cohortatione perfeci ut et Graeci et cives Romani qui frumentum compresserant magnum numerum populis pollicerentur.
[9] Idibus Februariis, quo die has litteras dedi, forum institueram agere Laodiceae Cibyraticum et Apamense, ex Idibus Martiis ibidem Synnadense, Pamphylium (tum Phemio dispiciam {{Graeca|κέρας}}), Lycaonium, Isauricum; ex Idibus Maiis in Ciliciam, ut ibi Iunius consumatur, velim tranquille a Parthis. Quintilis, si erit ut volumus, in itinere est per provinciam redeuntibus consumendus. venimus enim (in) provinciam Laodiceam Sulpicio et Marcello consulibus pridie Kalendas Sextilis. Inde nos oportet decedere a. d. III Kalendas Sextilis. primum contendam a Quinto fratre ut se praefici patiatur, quod et illo et me invitissimo fiet. sed aliter honeste fieri non potest, praesertim cum virum optimum Pomptinum ne nunc quidem retinere possim. rapit enim hominem Postumius Romam, fortasse etiam Postumia.
[10] habes consilia nostra; nunc cognosce de Bruto. Familians habet Brutus tuus quosdam creditores Salaminiorum ex Cypro, M. Scaptium et P. Matinium; quos mihi maiorem in modum commendavit. Matinium non novi, Scaptius ad me in castra venit. pollicitus sum curaturum me Bruti causa ut ei Salaminii pecuniam solverent. egit gratias. praefecturam petivit. negavi me cuiquam negotianti dare (quod idem tibi ostenderam Cn. Pompeio petenti probaram institutum meum, quid dicam Torquato de M. Laenio tuo, multis aliis?); sin praefectus vellet esse syngraphae causa, me curaturum ut exigeret. Gratias egit, discessit. Appius noster turmas aliquot equitum dederat huic Scaptio per quas Salaminios coerceret, et eundem habuerat praefectum; vexabat Salaminios. ego equites ex Cypro decedere iussi. moleste tulit Scaptius. [11] quid multa? ut ei fidem meam praestarem, cum ad me Salaminii Tarsum venissent et in iis Scaptius, imperavi ut pecuniam solverent. multa de syngrapha, de Scapti iniuriis. negavi me audire; hortatus sum, petivi etiam pro meis in civitatem beneficiis ut negotium conficerent, dixi denique me coacturum. homines non modo non recusare sed etiam hoc dicere, se a me solvere quod enim praetori dare consuessent, quoniam ego non acceperam, se a me quodam modo dare atque etiam minus esse aliquanto in Scapti nomine quam in vectigali praetorio. conlaudavi homines. ‘recte’ inquit Scaptius, ‘sed subducamus summam.’ interim cum ego in edicto translaticio centesimas me observaturum haberem cum anatocismo anniversario, ille ex syngrapha postulabat quaternas. ‘quid ais?’ inquam, ‘possumne contra meum edictum?’ at ille profert senatus consultum Lentulo Philippoque consulibus, UT QUI CILICIAM OBTINERET IUS EX ILLA SYNGRAPHA DICERET.
[12] cohorrui primo; etenim erat interitus civitatis. reperio duo senatus consulta isdem consulibus de eadem syngrapha. Salaminii cum Romae versuram facere vellent, non poterant, quod lex Gabinia vetabat. tum iis Bruti familiares freti gratia Bruti dare volebant quaternis, si sibi senatus consulto caveretur. fit gratia Bruti senatus consultum, UT NEVE SALAMINIS NEVE QUI EIS DEDISSET FRAUDI ESSET. Pecuniam numerarunt. at postea venit in mentem faeneratoribus nihil se iuvare illud senatus consultum, quod ex syngrapha ius dici lex Gabinia vetaret. tum fit senatus consultum, UT EX EA SYNGRAPHA IUS DICERETUR, (non ut alio iure ea syngrapha) esset quam ceterae sed ut eodem. Cum haec disseruissem, seducit me Scaptius; ait se nihil contra dicere sed illos putare talenta CC se debere; ea se velle accipere; debere autem illos paulo minus. rogat ut eos ad ducenta perducam. ‘optime’ inquam. voco illos ad me remoto Scaptio. ‘quid? vos quantum’ inquam ‘debetis?’ respondent CVI. refero ad Scaptium. homo clamare. ‘quid? opus est’ inquam ‘rationes conferatis.’ adsidunt, subducunt; (ad) nummum convenit. illi se numerare velle, urgere ut acciperet. Scaptius me rursus seducit, rogat ut rem sic relinquam. dedi veniam homini impudenter petenti; Graecis querentibus, ut in fano deponerent postulantibus non concessi. clamare omnes qui aderant, (alii) nihil impudentius Scaptio qui centesimis cum anatocismo contentus (non) esset, alii nihil stultius. mihi autem impudens magis quam stultus videbatur; nam aut bono nomine centesimis contentus non erat aut non bono quaternas centesimas sperabat. habes meam causam.
[13] quae si Bruto non probatur, nescio cur illum amemus. sed avunculo eius certe probabitur, praesertim cum senatus consultum modo factum sit, puto, postquam tu es profectus, in creditorum causa ut centesimae perpetuo faenore ducerentur. hoc quid intersit, si tuos digitos novi, certe habes subductum. in quo quidem, {{Graeca|ὁδοῦ πάρεργον}}, (L.) Lucceius M. f. queritur apud me per litteras summum esse periculum ne culpa senatus his decretis res ad tabulas novas perveniat; commemorat quid olim mali C. Iulius fecerit cum dieculam duxerit; numquam rei publicae plus. sed ad rem redeo. meditare adversus Brutum causam meam, si haec causa est contra quam nihil honeste dici potest, praesertim cum integram rem et causam reliquerim.
[14] reliqua sunt domestica. de {{Graeca|ἐνδομύχῳ}} probo idem quod tu, Postumiae filio, quoniam Pontidia nugatur. sed vellem adesses. A Quinto fratre his mensibus nihil exspectaris; nam Taurus propter nives ante mensem Iunium transiri non potest. Thermum, ut rogas, creberrimis litteris fulcio. P. Valerium negat habere quicquam Deiotarus rex eumque ait (a) se sustentari. Cum scies Romae intercalatum sit necne, velim ad me scribas certum quo die mysteria futura sint. Litteras tuas minus paulo exspecto quam si Romae esses sed tamen exspecto.
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{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|I.}}}}<br>Scr. Menturnis iii aut prid. Non. Mai. a. 703 (49).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|1.1|1}}Ego vero et tuum in discessu vidi animum et meo sum ipse testis. quo magis erit tibi videndum ne quid novi decernatur, ut hoc nostrum desiderium ne plus sit annuum. de Annio Saturnino curasti probe.
{{pn|1.2|2}}de satis dando vero te rogo, quoad eris Romae tu ut satis des. et sunt aliquot satisdationes secundum mancipium veluti Mennianorum praediorum vel Atilianorum. de Oppio factum est (ut) volui, et maxime quod DCCC aperuisti. quae quidem ego utique vel versura facta solvi volo, ne extrema exactio nostrorum nominum exspectetur.
{{pn|1.3|3}}nunc venio ad transversum illum extremae epistulae tuae versiculum in quo me admones de sorore. quae res se sic habet. Ut veni in Arpinas, cum ad me frater venisset, in primis nobis sermo isque multus de te fuit. ex quo ego veni ad ea quae fueramus ego et tu inter nos de sorore in Tusculano locuti. nihil tam vidi mite, nihil tam placatum quam tum meus frater erat in sororem tuam, ut, etiam si qua fuerat ex ratione sumptus offensio, non appareret. ille sic dies. postridie ex Arpinati profecti sumus. Ut in Arcano Quintus maneret dies fecit, ego Aquini, sed prandimus in Arcano. Nosti hunc fundum. quo ut venimus, humanissime Quintus ‘Pomponia’ inquit ‘tu invita mulieres, ego viros accivero.’ nihil potuit, mihi quidem ut visum est, dulcius idque cum verbis tum etiam animo ac vultu. at illa audientibus nobis ‘ego ipsa sum’ inquit ‘hic hospita,’ id autem ex eo, ut opinor, quod antecesserat Statius ut prandium nobis videret. tum Quintus ‘en’ inquit mihi ‘haec ego patior cotidie.’
{{pn|1.4|4}}dices ‘quid quaeso istuc erat?’ Magnum; itaque me ipsum commoverat; sic absurde et aspere verbis vultuque responderat. dissimulavi dolens. discubuimus omnes praeter illam, cui tamen Quintus de mensa misit. illa reiecit. quid multa? nihil meo fratre lenius, nihil asperius tua sorore mihi visum est; et multa praetereo quae tum mihi maiori stomacho quam ipsi Quinto fuerunt. ego inde Aquinum. Quintus in Arcano remansit et Aquinum ad me postridie mane venit mihique narravit nec secum illam dormire voluisse (et) cum discessura esset fuisse eius modi qualem ego vidissem. quid quaeris? vel ipsi hoc dicas licet, humanitatem ei meo iudicio illo die defuisse. haec ad te scripsi fortasse pluribus quam necesse fuit, ut videres tuas quoque esse partis instituendi et monendi. reliquum est ut ante quam proficiscare mandata nostra exhaurias, scribas ad me omnia, Pomptinum extrudas, cum profectus eris cures ut sciam, sic habeas nihil me hercule te mihi nec carius esse nec suavius. A. Torquatum amantissime dimisi Menturnis, optimum virum; cui me ad te scripsisse aliquid in sermone significes velim.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|II.}}}}<br>Scr. in Pompeiano vi Id. Mat a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|2.1|1}}A. d. vi Idus Maias, cum has dabam litteras, ex Pompeiano proficiscebar ut eo die manerem in Trebulano apud Pontium. deinde cogitabam sine ulla mora iusta itinera facere. in Cumano cum essem, venit ad me, quod mihi pergratum fuit, noster Hortensius; cui deposcenti mea mandata cetera universe mandavi, illud proprie, ne pateretur quantum esset in ipso prorogari nobis provincias. in quo eum tu velim confirmes gratumque mihi fecisse dicas quod et venerit ad me et hoc mihi praetereaque si quid opus esset promiserit. confirmavi ad eam causam etiam Furnium nostrum quem ad annum tribunum pl. videbam fore.
{{pn|2.2|2}}habuimus in Cumano quasi pusillam Romam. tanta erat in his locis multitudo; cum interim rufio noster, quod se a Vestorio observari videbat, strategemate hominem percussit; nam ad me non accessit. itane? cum Hortensius veniret et infirmus et tam longe et Hortensius, cum maxima praeterea multitudo, ille non venit? non, inquam. ‘non vidisti igitur hominem?’ inquies. qui potui non videre cum per emporium Puteolanorum iter facerem? in quo illum agentem aliquid credo salutavi, post etiam iussi valere cum me exiens e sua villa numquid vellem rogasset. hunc hominem parum gratum quisquam putet aut non in eo ipso laudandum quod laudari non laborarit?
{{pn|2.3|3}}sed redeo ad illud. noli putare mihi aliam consolationem esse huius ingentis molestiae nisi quod spero non longiorem annua fore. hoc me ita velle multi non credunt ex consuetudine aliorum; tu qui scis omnem diligentiam adhibebis tum scilicet cum id agi debebit, cum ex Epiro redieris. de re publica scribas ad me velim si quid erit quod † operare †. nondum enim satis huc erat adlatum quo modo Caesar ferret de auctoritate perscripta, eratque rumor de Transpadanis eos iussos iiii viros creare. quod si ita est, magnos motus timeo. sed aliquid ex Pompeio sciam.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|III.}}}}<br>Scr. in. Trebulano v Id. Mai. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|3.1|1}}A. d. vi Idus Maias veni in Trebulanum ad Pontium. ibi mihi tuae litterae binae redditae sunt tertio abs te die. eodem autem exiens e Pompeiano Philotimo dederam ad te litteras; nec vero nunc erat sane quod scriberem. qui de re publica rumores scribe, quaeso; in oppidis enim summum video timorem sed multa inania. quid de his cogites et quando scire velim.
{{pn|3.2|2}}ad quas litteras tibi rescribi velis nescio. nullas enim adhuc acceperam praeter quae mihi binae simul in Trebulano redditae sunt; quarum alterae edictum P. Licini habebant (erant autem Nonis Maus datae), alterae rescriptae ad meas Menturnensis. quam vereor ne quid fuerit {{Graeca|σπουδαιότερον}} in iis quas non accepi quibus rescribi vis! (apud) Lentulum ponam te in gratia.
{{pn|3.3|3}}Dionysius nobis cordi est. Nicanor tuus operam mihi dat egregiam. iam deest quod scribam et lucet. Beneventi cogitabam hodie. nostra continentia et diligentia † esse satis faciemus satis. A Pontio ex Trebulano a. d. v Idus Maias.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IV.}}}}<br>Scr. Bemaeventi iv Id. Mai a. 701 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|4.1|1}}Beneventum veni a. d. v Idus Majas. ibi accepi eas litteras quas tu superioribus litteris significaveras te dedisse; ad quas ego eo ipso die dederam ex Trebulano a Pontio. ac binas quidem tuas Beneventi accepi quarum alteras Funisulanus multo mane mihi dedit, alteras scriba Tullius. gratissima est mihi tua cura de illo meo primo et maximo mandato; sed tua profectio spem meam debilitat. ac † me ille illud labat †, non quo—, sed inopia cogimur eo contenti esse. de illo altero quem scribis tibi visum esse non alienum, vereor adduci ut nostra possit, et tu ais {{Graeca|δυσδιάγνωστον}} esse. equidem sum facilis, sed tu aberis et me absente res (haerebit). habebis mei rationem. nam posset aliquid, si utervis nostrum adesset, agente Servilia Servio fieri probabile. nunc si iam res placeat, agendi tamen viam non video.
{{pn|4.2|2}}nunc venio ad eam epistulam quam accepi a Tullio. de Marcello fecisti diligenter. igitur senatus consultum si erit factum, scribes ad me; si minus, rem tamen conficies; mihi enim attribui oportebit, item Bibulo. sed non dubito quin senatus consultum expeditum sit in quo praesertim sit compendium populi. de Torquato probe. de Masone et Ligure, cum venerint. de illo quod Chaerippus (quoniam hic quoque ‘{{Graeca|πρόσνευσιν}} sustulisti), o provincia! etiamne hic mihi curandus est? curandus autem hactenus ne qutd ad senatum ‘consule!’ aut ‘numera!’ nam de ceteris—sed tamen commode, quod cum Scrofa. de Pomptino recte scribis. est enim ita ut, si ante Kal. Iunias Brundisi futurus sit, minus urgendi fuerint M’. Anneius et (L.) Tullius.
{{pn|4.3|3}}quae de Sicinio audisti ea mihi probantur, modo ne illa exceptio in aliquem incurrat bene de nobis meritum sed considerabimus, rem enim probo. de nostro itinere quod statuero, de quinque praefectis quid Pompeius facturus sit cum ex ipso cognoro faciam ut scias. de Oppio bene curasti quod ei de D̅C̅C̅C̅ exposuisti idque, quoniam Philotimum habes, perfice et cognosce rationem et ut agam planius, si me amas, prius quam proficiscaris effice. Magna me cura levaris.
{{pn|4.4|4}}habes ad omnia. etsi paene praeterii chartam tibi deesse. mea captio est, si quidem eius inopia minus multa ad me scribis. tu vero aufer ducentos; etsi meam in eo parsimoniam huius paginae contractio significat. dum acta et rumores vel etiam si qua certa babes de Caesare exspecto. Litteras et aliis et Pomptino de omnibus rebus diligenter dabis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|V.}}}}<br>Scr. Venusiae ii aut prid. Id. Mai. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|5.1|1}}Plane deest quod scribam; nam nec quod mandem habeo (nihil enim praetermissum est), nec quod narrem (novi enim nihil), nec iocandi locus est; ita me multa sollicitant. tantum tamen scito, Idibus Maus nos Venusia mane proficiscentis has dedisse. eo autem die credo aliquid actum in senatu. sequantur igitur nos tuae litterae quibus non modo res omnis sed etiam rumores cognoscamus. eas accipiemus Brundisi; ibi enim Pomptinum ad eam diem quam tu scripsisti exspectare consilium est.
{{pn|5.2|2}}nos Tarenti quos cum Pompeio {{Graeca|διαλόγους}} de re publica habuerimus ad te perscribemus. etsi id ipsum scire cupio quod ad tempus recte ad te scribere possim, id est quam diu Romae futurus sis, ut aut quo dem posthac litteras sciam aut ne dem frustra. sed ante quam proficiscare, utique explicatum sit illud HS X̅X̅ et D̅C̅C̅C̅. hoc velim in maximis rebus et maxime necessariis habeas, ut quod auctore te velle coepi adiutore adsequar.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VI.}}}}<br>Scr. Tarenti xiv K. Iun. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|6.1|1}}Tarentum veni at d. xv Kal. Iunias. quod Pomptinum statueram exspectare, commodissimum duxi dies eos quoad ille veniret cum Pompeio consumere eoque magis quod ei gratum esse id videbam, qui etiam a me petierit ut secum et apud se essem cotidie. quod concessi libenter. multos enim eius praeclaros de re publica sermones accipiam, instruar etiam consiliis idoneis ad hoc nostrum negotium.
{{pn|6.2|2}}sed ad te brevior iam in scribendo incipio fieri dubitans Romaene sis an iam profectus. quod tamen quoad ignorabo, scribam aliquid potius quam committam ut tibi cum possint reddi a me litterae non reddantur. nec tamen iam habeo quod aut mandem tibi aut narrem. mandavi omnia; quae quidem tu, ut polliceris, exhauries. narrabo cum aliquid habebo novi. illud tamen non desinam, dum adesse (te) putabo, de Caesaris nomine rogare ut confectum relinquas. avide exspecto tuas litteras et maxime ut norim tempus profectionis tuae.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VII.}}}}<br>Scr. Tarenti xi K. Iun. a. 705 (49).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{ancora|7}}Cotidie vel potius in dies singulos breviores litteras ad te mitto; cotidie enim magis suspicor te in Epirum iam profectum. sed tamen ut mandatum scias me curasse, quo de ante, ait se Pompeius quinos praefectos delaturum novos vacationis iudiciariae causa. ego cum triduum cum Pompeio et apud Pompeium fuissem, proficiscebar Brundisium a. d. xi Kal. Iunias. civem illum egregium relinquebam et ad haec quae timentur propulsanda paratissimum. tuas litteras exspectabo cum ut quid agas tum (ut) ubi sis sciam.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|VIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Brundisi iv aut iii Nomm. Iun. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|8.1|1}}Me et incommoda valetudo, (e) qua iam emerseram utpote cum sine febri laborassem, et Pomptini exspectatio de quo adhuc ne rumor quidem venerat, tenebat duodecimum iam diem Brundisi; sed cursum exspectabamus.
{{pn|8.2|2}}tu si modo es Romae (vix enim puto), sin es, hoc vehementer animadvertas velim. Roma acceperam litteras Milonem meum queri per litteras iniuriam meam quod Philotimus socius esset in bonis suis. id ego ita fieri volui de C. Duroni sententia quem et amicissimum Miloni perspexeram et talem virum qualem tu iudicas cognoram. eius autem consilium meumque hoc fuerat, primum ut in potestate nostra esset res, ne illum malus emptor alienus mancipiis quae permulta secum habet spoliaret, deinde ut Faustae .quoi cautum ille esse voluisset ratum esset. erat etiam illud ut ipsi nos si quid servari posset quam facillime servaremus. nunc rem totam perspicias velim; nobis enim scribuntur saepe maiora. si ille queritur, si scribit ad amicos, si idem Fausta vult, Philotimus, ut ego ei coram dixeram mihique ille receperat, ne sit invito Milone in bonis. nihil nobis fuerat tanti. sin haec leviora sunt, tu iudicabis. loquere cum Duronio. scripsi etiam ad Camillum, (ad Caelium), ad Lamiam eoque magis quod non confidebam Romae te esse. summa erit haec. statues ut ex fide, fama reque mea videbitur.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|IX.}}}}<br>Scr. Acti xvii. K. Quint. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|9.1|1}}Actium venimus a. d. xvii Kal. Quintilis, cum quidem et Corcyrae et Sybotis muneribus tuis quae et Araus et meus amicus Eutychides opipare et {{Graeca|φιλοπροσηνέστατα}} nobis congesserant epulati essemus Saliarem in modum. Actio maluimus iter facere pedibus qui incommodissime navigassemus, et Leucatam flectere molestum videbatur, actuariis autem minutis Patras accedere sine impedimentis non satis visum est decorum. ego, ut saepe tu me currentem hortatus es, cotidie meditor, praecipio meis, faciam denique ut summa modestia et summa abstinentia munus hoc extraordinarium traducamus. Parthus velim quiescat et fortuna nos iuvet, nostra praestabimus.
{{pn|9.2|2}}tu quaeso quid agas, ubi quoque tempore futurus sis, qualis res nostras Romae reliqueris, maxime de X̅X̅ et D̅C̅C̅C̅ cura ut sciamus. id unis diligenter litteris datis quae ad me utique perferantur consequere. illud tamen, quoniam nunc abes cum id non agitur, aderis autem ad tempus, ut mihi recepisti, memento curare per te et per omnis nostros, in primis per Hortensium, ut annus noster maneat suo statu, ne quid novi decernatur. hoc tibi ita mando ut dubitem an etiam te rogem ut pugnes ne intercaletur. sed non audeo tibi omnia onera imponere; annum quidem utique teneto. Cicero meus, modestissimus et suavissimus puer, tibi salutem dicit. Dionysium semper equidem, ut scis, dilexi, sed cotidie pluris facio et me hercule in primis quod te amat nec tui mentionem intermitti sinit.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|X.}}}}<br>Scr. Athenis prid. K. aut K. Quint. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|10.1|1}}Ut Athenas a. d. vi Kal. Quintilis veneram, exspectabam ibi iam quartum diem Pomptinum neque de eius adventu certi quicquam habebam. eram autem totus, crede mihi, tecum et, quamquam sine iis per me ipse, tamen acrius vestigiis tuis monitus de te cogitabam. quid quaeris? non me hercule alius ullus sermo nisi de te.
{{pn|10.2|2}}sed tu de me ipso aliquid scire fortasse mavis. haec sunt. adhuc sumptus nec in me aut publice aut privatim nec in quemquam comitum. nihil accipitur lege Iulia, nihil ab hospite. persuasum est omnibus meis serviendum esse famae meae. belle adhuc. hoc animadversum Graecorum laude et multo sermone celebratur. quod superest, elaboratur in hoc a me, sicut tibi sensi placere. sed haec tum laudemus cum erunt perorata.
{{pn|10.3|3}}reliqua sunt eius modi ut meum consilium saepe reprehendam quod non aliqua ratione ex hoc negotio emerserim. O rem minime aptam meis moribus! o illud verum {{Graeca|ἔρδοι τις}}! dices ‘quid adhuc? nondum enim in negotio versaris?’ sane scio et puto molestiora restare. etsi haec ipsa fero equidem fronte, ut puto, et vultu bellissime sed angor intimis sensibus; ita multa vel iracunde vel insolenter vel in omni genere stulte insulse adroganter et dicuntur et tacentur cotidie; quae non quo te celem non perscribo sed quia {{Graeca|δυσεξείλητα}} sunt. itaque admirabere meam {{Graeca|βαθύτητα}} cum salvi redierimus; tanta mihi {{Graeca|μελέτη}} huius virtutis datur.
{{pn|10.4|4}}ergo haec quoque hactenus; etsi mihi nihil erat propositum ad scribendum, quia quid ageres, ubi terrarum esses, ne suspicabar quidem. nec hercule umquam tam diu ignarus rerum mearum fui, quid de Caesaris, quid de Milonis nominibus actum sit; ac non modo nemo domo (sed) ne Roma quidem quisquam, ut sciremus in re publica quid ageretur. qua re si quid erit quod scias de iis rebus quas putabis scire me velle, per mihi gratum erit si id curaris ad me perferendum.
{{pn|10.5|5}}quid est praeterea? nihil sane nisi illud. valde me Athenae delectarunt urbe dumtaxat et urbis ornamento et hominum amore in te et in nos quadam benevolentia; † sed .multum ea philosophia sursum deorsum †, si quidem est in Aristo, apud quem eram. nam Xenonem tuum vel nostrum potius Quinto concesseram, et tamen propter vicinitatem totos dies simul eramus. tu velim cum primum poteris tua consilia ad me scribas, ut sciam quid agas, ubi quoque (tempore), maxime quando Romae futurus sis.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XI.}}}}<br>Scr. Athenis pr. Non. Quint. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|11.1|1}}Hui, totiensne me litteras dedisse Romam, cum ad te nullas darem? at vero posthac frustra potius dabo quam, si recte dari potuerint, committam ut non dem. ne provincia nobis prorogetur, per fortunas! dum ades, quicquid provideri (poterit) provide. non dici potest quam flagrem desiderio urbis, quam vix harum rerum insulsitatem feram.
{{pn|11.2|2}}Marcellus foede in Comensi. etsi ille magistratum non gesserat, erat tamen Transpadanus. ita mihi videtur non minus stomachi nostro (quam) Caesari fecisse. sed hoc ipse viderit.
{{pn|11.3|3}}Pompeius mihi quoque videbatur, quod scribis a Varronem dicere, in Hispaniam certe iturus. id ego minime probabam; qui quidem Theophani facile persuasi nihil esse melius quam illum nusquam discedere. ergo Graecus incumbet. valet autem auctoritas eius apud illum plurimum.
{{pn|11.4|4}}ego has pr. Nonas Quintilis proficiscens Athenis dedi, cum ibi decem ipsos fuissem dies. venerat Pomptinus, una Cn. Volusius; aderat quaestor; tuus unus Tullius aberat. aphracta Rhodiorum et dicrota Mytilenaeorum habebam et aliquid {{Graeca|ἐπικώπων}}. de Parthis erat silentium. quod superest, di iuvent!
{{pn|11.5|5}}nos adhuc iter per Graeciam summa cum admiratione fecimus, nec me hercule habeo quod adhuc quem accusem meorum. videntur mihi nosse nostram causam et condicionem profectionis suae; plane serviunt existimationi meae. quod superest, si verum illud est {{Graeca|οἵαπερ ἡ δέσποινα}}, certe permanebunt. nihil enim a me fieri ita videbunt ut sibi sit delinquendi locus. sin id parum profuerit, fiet aliquid a nobis severius. nam adhuc lenitate dulces sumus et, ut spero, proficimus aliquantum. sed ego hanc, ut Siculi dicunt, {{Graeca|ἀνεξίαν}} in unum annum meditatus sum. proinde pugna ne, si quid prorogatum sit, turpis inveniar.
{{pn|11.6|6}}nunc redeo ad quae mihi mandas. † in praefectis excusatio iis †, quos voles deferto. non ero tam {{Graeca|μετέωρος}} quam in Appuleio fui. Xenonem tam diligo quam tu, quod ipsum sentire certo scio. apud Patronem et reliquos barones te in maxima gratia posui et hercule merito tuo feci. nam mihi Ister dixit te scripsisse ad se mihi ex illius litteris rem illam curae fuisse, quod ei pergratum erat. sed cum Patro mecum egisset ut peterem a vestro Ariopago {{Graeca|ὑπομνηματισμὸν}} tollerent quem Polycharmo praetore fecerant, commodius visum est et Xenoni et post ipsi Patroni me ad Memmium scribere, qui pridie quam ego Athenas veni Mytilenas profectus erat, ut is ad suos scriberet posse id sua voluntate fieri. non enim dubitabat Xeno quin ab Ariopagitis invito Memmio impetrari non posset. Memmius autem aedificandi consilium abiecerat; sed erat Patroni iratus. itaque scripsi ad eum accurate; cuius epistulae misi ad te exemplum.
{{pn|11.7|7}}tu velim Piliam meis verbis consolere. indicabo enim tibi, tu illi nihil dixeris. accepi fasciculum in quo erat epistula Piliae. abstuli, aperui, legi. valde scripta est {{Graeca|συμπαθῶς}}. Brundisio quae tibi epistulae redditae sunt sine mea, tum videlicet datas cum ego me non belle haberem. nam illam {{Graeca|νομαναρια}} me excusationem.ne acceperis. cura ut omnia sciam sed maxime ut valeas.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XII.}}}}<br>Scr. in medio mari med. m. Quint. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|12.1|1}}Negotium magnum est navigare atque id mense Quintili. Sexto die Delum Athenis venimus. Pr. Nonas Quintilis a Piraeo ad Zostera vento molesto, qui nos ibidem Nonis tenuit. ante viii Idus ad Ceo iucunde; inde Gyarum saevo vento non adverso; hinc Syrum, inde Delum, utroque citius quam vellemus, cursum confecimus. nam nosti aphracta Rhodiorum; nihil quod minus fluctum ferre possit. itaque erat in animo nihil festinare nec me Delo movere nisi omnia {{Graeca|ἄκρα Γυρέων}} pura vidissem.
{{pn|12.2|2}}de Messalla ad te statim ut audivi de Gyaro dedi litteras et id ipsum consilium nostrum etiam ad Hortensium cui quidem valde {{Graeca|συνηγωνίων}}. sed tuas de eius iudici sermonibus et me hercule omni de rei publicae statu litteras exspecto {{Graeca|πολιτικώτερον}} quidem scriptas, quoniam meos cum Thallumeto nostro pervolutas libros, eius modi inquam litteras ex quibus ego non quid fiat (nam id vel Helonius, vir gravissimus, potest efficere, cliens tuus) sed quid futurum sit sciam. Cum haec leges, habebimus consules. omnia perspicere poteris de Caesare, de Pompeio, de ipsis iudiciis.
{{pn|12.3|3}}nostra autem negotia, quoniam Romae commoraris, amabo te, explica. cui rei fugerat me rescribere, de strue laterum, plane rogo, de aqua, si quid poterit fieri, eo sis animo quo soles esse; quam ego cum mea sponte tum tuis sermonibus aestimo plurimi. ergo tu id conficies. praeterea si quid Philippus rogabit quod in tua re faceres, id velim facias. plura scribam ad te cum constitero. nunc eram plane in medio mari.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIII.}}}}<br>Scr. Ephesi vii K. Sext. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|13.1|1}}Ephesum venimus a. d. xi Kal. Sextilis sexagesimo et quingentesimo post pugnam Bovillanam. navigavimus sine timore et sine nausea sed tardius propter aphractorum Rhodiorum imbecillitatem. de concursu legationum, privatorum et de incredibili multitudine quae mihi iam Sami sed mirabilem in modum Ephesi praesto fuit aut audisse te puto aut ‘quid ad me attinet?’ verum tamen decumani (quasi) venissem cum imperio, Graeci quasi Ephesio praetori se alacres obtulerunt. ex quo te intellegere certo scio multorum annorum ostentationes meas nunc in discrimen esse adductas. sed ut spero, utemur ea palaestra quam a te didicimus omnibusque satis faciemus et eo facilius quod in nostra provincia confectae sunt pactiones. sed hactenus, praesertim cum cenanti mihi nuntiarit Cestius se de nocte proficisci.
{{pn|13.2|2}}tua negotiola Ephesi curae mihi fuerunt, Thermoque, tametsi ante adventum meum liberalissime erat pollicitus tuis omnibus, tamen Philogenem et Seium tradidi, Apollonidensem Xenonem commendavi. omnino omnia se facturum recepit. ego praeterea rationem Philogeni permutationis eius quam tecum feci edidi. ergo haec quoque hactenus.
{{pn|13.3|3}}redeo ad urbana. per fortunas! quoniam Romae manes, primum illud praefulci atque praemuni quaeso ut simus annui, ne intercaletur quidem. deinde exhauri mea mandata maximeque si quid potest de illo domestico scrupulo quem non ignoras, dein de Caesare cuius in cupiditatem te auctore incubui nec me piget. et si intellegis quam meum sit scire et curare quid in re publica fiat—fiat autem? immo vero etiam quid futurum sit, perscribe ad me omnia, sed diligentissime imprimisque ecquid iudiciorum status aut factorum aut futurorum etiam laboret. de aqua, si curae est, si quid Philippus aget animadvertes.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIV.}}}}<br>Scr. Trallibus vi K. Sext. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|14.1|1}}Ante quam aliquo loco consedero, neque longas a me neque semper mea manu litteras exspectabis; cum autem erit spatium, utrumque praestabo. nunc iter conficiebamus aestuosa et pulverulenta via. dederam Epheso pridie; has dedi Trallibus. in provincia mea fore me putabam Kal. Sextilibus. ex ea die, si me amas, {{Graeca|παράπηγμα ἐνιαύσιον}} commoveto. interea tamen haec mihi quae vellem adferebantur, primum otium Parthicum, dein confectae pactiones publicanorum, postremo seditio militum sedata ab Appio stipendiumque eis usque ad Idus Quintilis persolutum.
{{pn|14.2|2}}nos Asia accepit admirabiliter. adventus noster nemini ne minimo quidem fuit sumptui. spero meos omnis servire laudi meae. tamen magno timore sum sed bene speramus. omnes iam nostri praeter Tullium tuum venerunt. erat mihi in animo recta proficisci ad exercitum, aestivos mensis reliquos rei militari dare, hibernos iuris dictioni.
{{pn|14.3|3}}tu velim, si me nihilo minus nosti curiosum in re publica quam te, scribas ad me omnia quae sint, quae futura sint. nihil mihi gratius facere potes; nisi tamen id erit mihi gratissimum, si quae tibi mandavi confeceris imprimisque illud {{Graeca|ἐνδόμυχον}}, quo mihi scis nihil esse carius. habes epistulam plenam festinationis et pulveris; reliquae subtiliores erunt.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XV.}}}}<br>Scr. Laodiceae ili Non. Sext. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|15.1|1}}Laodiceam veni pridie Kal. Sextilis. ex hoc die clavum anni movebis. nihil exoptatius adventu meo, nihil carius. sed est incredibile quam me negoti taedeat, non habeat satis magnum campum ille tibi non ignotus cursus animi et industriae meae, praeclara opera cesset. quippe, ius Laodiceae me dicere, cum Romae A. Plotius dicat, et, cum exercitum noster amicus habeat tantum, me nomen habere duarum legionum exilium? denique haec non desidero, lucem, forum, urbem, domum, vos desidero. sed feram ut potero, sit modo annuum. si prorogatur, actum est. verum perfacile resisti potest, tu modo Romae sis.
{{pn|15.2|2}}quaeris quid hic agam. ita vivam ut maximos sumptus facio. mirifice delector hoc instituto. admirabilis abstinentia ex praeceptis tuis, ut verear ne illud quod tecum permutavi versura mihi solvendum sit. Appi vulnera non refrico, sed apparent nec occuli possunt. iter Laodicea faciebam a. d. iii Non. Sextilis, cum has litteras dabam, in castra in Lycaoniam. Inde ad Taurum cogitabam, ut cum Moeragene signis collatis, si possem, de servo tuo deciderem. ‘clitellae bovi sunt impositae; plane non est nostrum onus.’ sed feremus, modo, si me amas, sim annuus adsis tu ad tempus ut senatum totum excites. mirifice sollicitus sum quod iam diu mihi ignota sunt ista omnia. qua re ut ad te ante scripsi, cum cetera tum res publica cura ut mihi nota sit. plura scribam † tarde tibi redditu iri †, sed dabam familiari homini ac domestico, C. Andronico Puteolano. tu autem saepe dare tabellariis publicanorum poteris per magistros scripturae et portus nostrarum dioecesium.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVI.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere a Synnada ad Philomellum inter a. d. v et iii Id. Sext. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|16.1|1}}Etsi in ipso itinere et via discedebant publicanorum tabellarii et eramus in cursu, tamen surripiendum aliquid putavi spati, ne me immemorem mandati tui putares. itaque subsedi in ipsa via, dum haec quae longiorem desiderant orationem summatim tibi perscriberem.
{{pn|16.2|2}}maxima exspectatione in perditam et plane eversam in perpetuum provinciam nos venisse scito pridie Kal. Sextilis, moratos triduum Laodiceae, triduum Apameae, totidem dies Synnade. audivimus nihil aliud nisi imperata {{Graeca|ἐπικεφάλαια}} solvere non posse, {{Graeca|ὠνὰς}} omnium venditas, civitatum gemitus, ploratus, monstra quaedam non hominis sed ferae nescio cuius immanis. quid quaeris? taedet omnino eos vitae.
{{pn|16.3|3}}levantur tamen miserae civitates quod nullus fit sumptus in nos neque in legatos neque in quaestorem neque in quemquam. scito non modo nos foenum aut quod e lege Iulia dari solet non accipere sed ne ligna quidem, nec praeter quattuor lectos et tectum quemquam accipere quicquam, multis locis ne tectum quidem et in tabernaculo manere plerumque. itaque incredibilem in modum concursus fiunt ex agris, ex vicis, ex domibus omnibus. me hercule etiam adventa nostro reviviscunt. iustitia, abstinentia, clementia tui Ciceronis [itaque] opiniones omnium superavit.
{{pn|16.4|4}}Appius ut audivit nos venire, in ultimam provinciam se coniecit Tarsum usque. ibi forum agit. de Partho silentium est, sed tamen concisos equites nostros a barbaris nuntiabant ii qui veniebant. Bibulus ne cogitabat quidem etiam nunc in provinciam suam accedere; id autem facere ob eam causam dicebant quod tardius vellet decedere. nos in castra properabamus quae aberant tridui.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVII.}}}}<br>Scr. in itinere ad castra inter iv Id. a prid. Id. Sext. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|17.1|1}}Accepi Roma sine epistula tua fasciculum litterarum; in quo, si modo valuisti et Romae fuisti, Philotimi duco esse culpam, non tuam. haud epistulam dictavi sedens in raeda, cum in castra proficiscerer a quibus aberam bidui. paucis diebus habebam certos homines quibus darem litteras. itaque eo me servavi.
{{pn|17.2|2}}nos tamen, etsi hoc te ex aliis audire malo, sic in provincia nos gerimus, quod ad abstinentiam attinet, ut nullus terruncius insumatur in quemquam. id fit etiam et legatorum et tribunorum et praefectorum diligentia; nam omnes mirifice {{Graeca|συμφιλοδοξοῦσιν}} gloriae meae. Lepta noster mirificus est. sed nunc propero. perscribam ad te paucis diebus omnia.
{{pn|17.3|3}}Cicerones nostros Deiotarus filius, qui rex ab senatu appellatus est, secum in regnum. dum in aestivis nos essemus, illum pueris locum esse bellissimum duximus.
{{pn|17.4|4}}Sestius ad me scripsit quae tecum esset de mea domestica et maxima cura locutus et quid tibi esset visum. amabo te, incumbe in eam rem et ad me scribe quid et possit et tu censeas. idem scripsit Hortensium de proroganda nostra provincia dixisse nescio quid. mihi in Cumano diligentissime se ut annui essemus defensurum receperat. si quicquam me amas, hunc locum muni. dici non potest quam invitus a vobis absim; et simul hanc gloriam iustitiae et abstinentiae fore inlustriorem spero si cito decesserimus, id quod Scaevolae contigit qui solos novem mensis Asiae praefuit.
{{pn|17.6|6}}Appius noster cum me adventare videret, profectus est Tarsum usque Laodicea. ibi forum agit, cum ego sim in provincia. quam eius iniuriam non insector. satis enim habeo negoti in sanandis vulneribus quae sunt imposita provinciae; quod do operam ut faciam quam minima cum illius contumelia. sed hoc Bruto nostro velim dicas, illum fecisse non belle qui adventu meo quam longissime potuerit discesserit.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XVIII.}}}}<br>Scr. in castris ad Cybistra xi K. Oct. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|18.1|1}}Quam vellem Romae esses, si forte non es! nihil enim certi habebamus nisi accepisse nos tuas litteras a. d. xiiii Kal. Sextil. datas, in quibus scriptum esset te in Epirum iturum circiter Kal. Sextil. sed sive Romae es sive in Epiro, Parthi Euphraten transierunt duce Pacoro, Orodis regis Parthorum filio, (cum) cunctis fere copiis. Bibulus nondum audiebatur esse in Syria; Cassius in oppido Antiochia est cum omni exercitu, nos in Cappadocia ad Taurum cum exercitu ad Cybistra; hostis in Cyrrhestica quae Syriae pars proxima est provinciae meae. his de rebus scripsi ad senatum, quas litteras, si Romae es, videbis putesne reddendas et multa, immo omnia, quorum {{Graeca|κεφάλαιον}} ne quid inter caesa et porrecta, ut aiunt, oneris mihi addatur aut temporis. nobis enim hac infirmitate exercitus inopia sociorum, praesertim fidelium, certissimum subsidium est hiems. ea si venerit nec illi ante in meam provinciam transierint, unum vereor ne senatus propter urbanarum rerum metum Pompeium nolit dimittere. quod si alium ad ver mittit, non laboro, nobis modo temporis ne quid prorogetur.
{{pn|18.2|2}}haec igitur, si es Romae; sin abes aut etiam si ades, haec negotia sic se habent. stamus animis et, quia consiliis, ut videmur, bonis utimur, speramus etiam manu. tuto consedimus copioso a frumento, Ciliciam prope conspiciente, expedito ad mutandum loco, parvo exercitu sed, ut spero, ad benevolentiam erga nos consentiente. quem nos Deiotari adventu cum suis omnibus copiis duplicaturi eramus. sociis multo fidelioribus utimur quam quisquam usus est; quibus incredibilis videtur nostra et mansuetudo et abstinentia. dilectus habetur civium Romanorum; frumentum ex agris in loca tuta comportatur. si fuerit occasio, manu, si minus, locis nos defendemus.
{{pn|18.3|3}}qua re bono animo es. video enim te et, quasi coram adsis, ita cerno {{Graeca|συμπάθειαν}} amoris tui. sed te rogo, si ullo pacto fieri poterit, si integra in senatu nostra causa ad Kal. Ianuarias manserit, ut Romae sis mense Ianuario. profecto nihil accipiam iniuriae, si tu aderis. amicos consules habemus, nostrum tribunum pl. Furnium. verum tua est opus adsiduitate, prudentia, gratia. tempus est necessarium. sed turpe est me pluribus verbis agere tecum.
{{pn|18.4|4}}Cicerones nostri sunt apud Deiotarum sed, si opus erit, deducentur Rhodum. tu si es Romae, ut soles, diligentissime, si in Epiro, mitte tamen ad nos de tuis aliquem tabellarium, ut et (tu) quid nos agamus et nos quid tu agas quidque acturus sis scire possimus. ego tui Bruti rem sic ago ut suam ipse non ageret. sed iam exhibeo pupillum neque defendo; sunt enim negotia et lenta et inania. faciam tamen satis tibi quidem cui difficilius est quam ipsi; sed certe satis faciam utrique.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XIX.}}}}<br>Scr. in castris ad Cybistin x K. Oct. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|19.1|1}}Obsignaram iam epistulam eam, quam puto te modo perlegisse scriptam mea manu in qua omnia continentur, cum subito Apellae tabellarius a. d. xi Kal. Octobris septimo quadragesimo die Roma celeriter (hui tam longe!) mihi tuas litteras reddidit. ex quibus non dubito quin tu Pompeium exspectaris dum Arimino rediret et iam in Epirum profectus sis, magisque vereor, ut scribis, ne in Epiro sollicitus sis non minus quam nos hic sumus. de Atiliano nomine scripsi ad Philotimum ne appellaret Messallam.
{{pn|19.2|2}}itineris nostri famam ad te pervenisse laetor magisque laetabor si reliqua cognoris. filiolam tuam tibi † iam Romae † iucundam esse gaudeo, eamque quam numquam vidi tamen et amo et amabilem esse certo scio. etiam atque etiam vale.
{{pn|19.3|3}}de Patrone et tuis condiscipulis quae de parietinis in Melita laboravi ea tibi grata esse gaudeo. quod scribis libente te repulsam tulisse eum qui cum sororis tuae fili patruo certarit, magni amoris signum. itaque me etiam admonuisti ut gauderem; nam mihi in mentem non venerat. ‘non credo’ inquis. Ut libet; sed plane gaudeo, quoniam {{Graeca|τὸ νεμεσᾶν}} interest {{Graeca|τοῦ φθονεῖν}}.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XX.}}}}<br>Scr. in Cilicia inter a. d. xii et iv K. Ian. a. 703 (51).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|20.1|1}}Saturnalibus mane se mihi Pindenissitae dediderunt septimo et quinquagesimo die postquam oppugnare eos coepimus. ‘qui malum! isti Pindenissitae qui sunt?’ inquies; ‘nomen audivi numquam.’ quid ego faciam? num potui Ciliciam Aetoliam aut Macedoniam reddere? hoc iam sic habeto nec hoc exercitu (nec) hic tanta negotia geri potuisse. quae cognosce {{Graeca|ἐν ἐπιτομῇ}}; sic enim concedis mihi proximis litteris. Ephesum ut venerim nosti, qui etiam mihi gratulatus es illius diei celebritatem qua nihil me umquam delectavit magis. Inde (in) oppidis iis † quae erant † mirabiliter accepti Laodiceam pridie Kal. Sextilis venimus. ibi morati biduum perinlustres fuimus honorificisque verbis omnis iniurias revellimus superiores, quod idem (Colossis), dein Apameae quinque dies morati et Synnadis triduum, Philomeli quinque dies, Iconi decem fecimus. nihil ea iuris dictione aequabilius, nihil lenius, nihil gravius.
{{pn|20.2|2}}Inde in castra veni a. d. VII Kalendas Septembris. A. d. III exercitum lustravi apud Iconium. ex his castris, cum graves de Parthis nuntii venirent, perrexi in Ciliciam per Cappadociae partem eam quae Ciliciam attingit, eo consilio ut Armenius Artavasdes et ipsi Parthi Cappadocia se excludi putarent. Cum dies quinque ad Cybistra [Cappadociae] castra habuissem, certior sum factus Parthos ab illo aditu Cappadociae longe abesse, Ciliciae magis imminere. itaque confestim iter in Ciliciam feci per Tauri pylas. Tarsum veni a. d. III Nonas Octobris.
{{pn|20.3|3}}Inde ad Amanum contendi qui Syriam a Cilicia in aquarum divertio dividit; qui mons erat hostium plenus sempiternorum. hic a. d. iii Idus Octobr. magnum numerum hostium occidimus. castella munitissima nocturno Pomptini adventu, nostro matutino cepimus, incendimus. imperatores appellati sumus. castra paucos dies habuimus ea ipsa quae contra Darium habuerat apud Issum Alexander, imperator haud paulo melior quam aut tu aut ego. ibi dies quinque morati direpto et vastato Amano inde discessimus. interim (scis enim dici quaedam {{Graeca|πανικά}}, dici item {{Graeca|τὰ κενὰ τοῦ πολέμου}}) rumore adventus nostri et Cassio qui Antiochia tenebatur animus accessit et Parthis timor iniectus est. itaque eos cedentis ab oppido Cassius insecutus rem bene gessit. qua in fuga magna auctoritate Osaces dux Parthorum vulnus accepit eoque interiit paucis post diebus. erat in Syria nostrum nomen in gratia.
{{pn|20.4|4}}venit interim Bibulus; credo, voluit appellatione hac inani nobis esse par. in eodem Amano coepit loreolam in mustaceo quaerere. at ille cohortem primam totam perdidit centurionemque primi pili nobilem sui generis Asinium Dentonem et reliquos cohortis eiusdem et Sex. Lucilium, T. Gavi Caepionis locupletis et splendidi hominis filium, tribunum militum sane plagam odiosam acceperat cum re tum tempore. {{pn|20.5|5}}nos ad Pindenissum, quod oppidum munitissimum Eleutherocilicum omnium memoria in armis fuit. feri homines et acres et omnibus rebus ad defendendum parati. cinximus vallo et fossa; aggere maximo, vineis, turre altissima, magna tormentorum copia, multis sagittariis, magno labore, apparatu multis sauciis nostris, incolumi exercitu negotium confecimus. hilara sane Saturnalia militibus quoque quibus equis exceptis reliquam praedam concessimus. mancipia venibant Saturnalibus tertiis. Cum haec scribebam, in tribunali res erat ad HS C̅X̅X̅. hinc exercitum in hiberna agri male pacati deducendum Quinto fratri dabam; ipse me Laodiceam recipiebam.
{{pn|20.6|6}}haec adhuc. sed ad praeterita revertamur. quod me maxime hortaris et quod pluris est quam omnia, in quo laboras ut etiam Ligurino {{Graeca|Μώμῳ}} satis faciamus, moriar si quicquam fieri potest elegantius. nec iam ego hanc continentiam appello, quae virtus voluptati resistere videtur. ego in vita mea nulla umquam voluptate tanta sum adfectus quanta adficior hac integritate, nec me tam fama quae summa est quam res ipsa delectat. quid quaeris? fuit tanti. me ipse non noram nec satis sciebam quid in hoc genere facere possem. recte {{Graeca|πεφυσίωμαι}}. nihil est praeequis carius. interim haec {{Graeca|λαμπρά}}. Ariobarzanes opera mea vivit, regnat; {{Graeca|ἐν παρόδῳ}} consilio et auctoritate et quod insidiatoribus eius {{Graeca|ἀπρόσιτον}} me non modo {{Graeca|ἀδωροδόκητον}} praebui regem regnumque servavi. interea e Cappadocia ne pilum quidem. Brutum abiectum quantum potui excitavi; quem non minus amo quam tu, paene dixi quam te. atque etiam spero toto anno imperi nostri terruncium sumptus in provincia nullum fore.
{{pn|20.7|7}}habes omnia. nunc publice litteras Romam mittere parabam. Vberiores erunt quam si ex Amano misissem. at te Romae non fore! sed est totum (in eo) quid Kalendis Martiis futurum sit. vereor enim ne cum de provincia agetur, si Caesar resistet, nos retineamur. his tu si adesses, nihil timerem.
{{pn|20.8|8}}redeo ad urbana quae ego diu ignorans ex tuis iucundissimis litteris a. d. v Kal. Ianuarias denique cognovi. eas diligentissime Philogenes, libertus tuus, curavit perlonga et non satis tuta via perferendas. nam quas Laeni pueris scribis datas non acceperam. iucunda de Caesare et quae senatus decrevit et quae tu speras. quibus ille si cedit, salvi sumus. incendio Plaetoriano quod Seius ambustus es minus moleste fero. Lucceius de Q. Cassio cur tam vehemens fuerit et quid actum sit aveo scire.
{{pn|20.9|9}}ego cum Laodiceam venero, Quinto sororis tuae filio togam puram iubeor dare; cui moderabor diligentius. Deiotarus cuius auxiliis magnis usus sum ad me, ut scripsit, cum Ciceronibus Laodiceam venturus erat. tuas etiam Epiroticas exspecto litteras, ut habeam rationem non modo negoti verum etiam oti tui. Nicanor in officio est et a me liberaliter tractatur. quem, ut puto, Romam cum litteris publicis mittam, ut et diligentius perferantur et idem ad me certa de te et a te referat. Alexis quod mihi totiens salutem adscribit est gratum; sed cur non suis litteris idem facit quod meus ad te Alexis facit? Phemio quaeritur {{Graeca|κέρας}}. sed haec hactenus. cura ut valeas et ut sciam quando cogites Romam. etiam atque etiam vale.
{{pn|20.10|10}}tua tuosque Thermo et praesens Ephesi diligentissime commendaram et nunc per litteras ipsumque intellexi esse perstudiosum tui. tu velim, quod antea ad te scripsi, de domo Pammeni des operam ut quod tuo meoque beneficio puer habet cures ne qua ratione convellatur. Utrique nostrum honestum existimo; tum mihi erit pergratum.
{{c|{{x-maior|{{ancora+|XXI.}}}}<br>Scr. Laodiceae Id. Febr. a. 704 (50).<br>CICERO ATTICO SAL.}}
{{pn|21.1|1}}Ite in Epirum salvum venisse et, ut scribis, ex sententia navigasse vehementer gaudeo, non esse Romae meo tempore pernecessario submoleste fero. hoc me tamen consolor uno: spero te istic iucunde hiemare et libenter requiescere.
{{pn|21.2|2}}C. Cassius, frater Q. Cassi familiaris tui, pudentiores illas litteras miserat de quibus tu ex me requiris quid sibi voluerint quam eas quas postea misit, quibus per se scribit confectum esse Parthicum bellum. recesserant illi quidem ab Antiochia ante Bibuli adventum sed nullo nostro {{Graeca|εὐημερήματι}}; hodie vero hiemant in Cyrrhestica, maximumque bellum impendet. nam et Orodi regis Parthorum filius in provincia nostra est, nec dubitat Deiotarus, cuius filio pacta est Artavasdis filia ex quo sciri potest, quin cum omnibus copiis ipse prima aestate Euphraten transiturus sit. quo autem die Cassi litterae victrices in senatu recitatae sunt, datae Nonis Octobribus, eodem meae tumultum nuntiantes. Axius noster ait nostras auctoritatis plenas fuisse, illis negat creditum. Bibuli nondum erant adlatae; quas certo scio plenas timoris fore.
{{pn|21.3|3}}ex his rebus hoc vereor ne cum Pompeius propter metum rerum novarum nusquam dimittatur, Caesari nullus honos a senatu habeatur, dum hic nodus expediatur, non putet senatus nos ante quam successum sit oportere decedere nec in tanto motu rerum tantis provinciis singulos legatos praeesse. hic ne quid mihi prorogetur, quod ne intercessor quidem sustinere possit, horreo atque eo magis quod tu abes qui consilio, gratia, studio multis rebus occurreres. sed dices me ipsum mihi sollicitudinem struere. cogor ut velim ita sit; sed omnia metuo. etsi bellum {{Graeca|ἀκροτελεύτιον}} habet illa tua epistula quam dedisti nauseans Buthroto, ‘tibi, ut video et spero, nulla ad decedendum erit mora.’ mallem ‘ut video,’ nihil opus fuit ‘ut spero.’
{{pn|21.4|4}}acceperam autem satis celeriter Iconi per publicanorum tabellarios a Lentuli triumpho datas. in his {{Graeca|γλυκύπικρον}} illud confirmas moram mihi nullam fore; deinde addis, si quid secus, te ad me esse venturum. angunt me dubitationes tuae; simul et vides quas acceperim litteras. nam quas Hermonis centurionis caculae ipse scribis te dedisse non accepi. Laeni pueris te dedisse saepe ad me scripseras. eas Laodiceae denique, cum eo venissem, iii Idus Februar. Laenius mihi reddidit datas a. d. x Kal. Octobris. Laenio tuas commendationes et statim verbis et reliquo tempore re probabo. {{pn|21.5|5}}eae litterae cetera vetera habebant, unum hoc novum de Cibyratis pantheris. multum te amo quod respondisti M. Octavio te non putare. sed posthac omnia quae recta non erunt pro certo negato. nos enim et nostra sponte bene firmi et me hercule auctoritate tua inflammati vicimus omnis (hoc tu ita reperies) cum abstinentia tum iustitia, facilitate, clementia. cave putes quicquam homines magis umquam esse miratos quam nullum terruncium me obtinente provinciam sumptus factum esse nec in rem publicam nec in quemquam meorum praeter quam in L. Tullium legatum. is ceteroqui abstinens sed Iulia lege transitans, semel tamen in diem, non ut alii solebant omnibus vicis (praeter eum semel nemo accepit), facit ut mihi excipiendus sit, cum terruncium nego sumptus factum. praeter eum accepit nemo. has a nostro Q. Titinio sordis accepimus.
{{pn|21.6|6}}ego aestivis confectis Quintum fratrem hibernis et Ciliciae praefeci. Q. Volusium tui Tiberi generum, certum hominem sed mirifice etiam abstinentem, misi in Cyprum ut ibi pauculos dies esset, ne cives Romani pauci qui illic negotiantur ius sibi dictum negarent; nam evocari ex insula
{{pn|21.7|7}}Cyprios non licet. ipse in Asiam profectus sum Tarso Nonis Ianuariis, non me hercule dici potest qua admiratione Ciliciae civitatum maximeque Tarsensium. postea veroquam Taurum transgressus sum, mirifica exspectatio Asiae nostrarum dioecesium quae sex mensibus imperi mei nullas meas acceperat litteras, numquam hospitem viderat. illud autem tempus quotannis ante me fuerat in hoc quaestu. civitates locupletes ne in hiberna milites reciperent magnas pecunias dabant, Cyprii talenta Attica cc; qua ex insula (non {{Graeca|ὑπερβολικῶς}} sed verissime loquor) nummus nullus me obtinente erogabitur. ob haec beneficia quibus illi obstupescunt nullos honores mihi nisi verborum decerni sino, statuas, fana, {{Graeca|τέθριππα}} prohibeo nec sum in ulla re alia molestus civitatibus—sed fortasse tibi qui haec praedicem de me. perfer, si me amas; tu enim me haec facere voluisti.
{{pn|21.8|8}}iter igitur ita per Asiam feci ut etiam fames qua nihil miserius est, quae tum erat in hac mea Asia (messis enim nulla fuerat), mihi optanda fuerit. quacumque iter feci, nulla vi, nullo iudicio, nulla contumelia, auctoritate et cohortatione perfeci ut et Graeci et cives Romani qui frumentum compresserant magnum numerum populis pollicerentur.
{{pn|21.9|9}}Idibus Februariis, quo die has litteras dedi, forum institueram agere Laodiceae Cibyraticum et Apamense, ex Idibus Martiis ibidem Synnadense, Pamphylium (tum Phemio dispiciam {{Graeca|κέρας}}), Lycaonium, Isauricum; ex Idibus Maiis in Ciliciam, ut ibi Iunius consumatur, velim tranquille a Parthis. Quintilis, si erit ut volumus, in itinere est per provinciam redeuntibus consumendus. venimus enim (in) provinciam Laodiceam Sulpicio et Marcello consulibus pridie Kalendas Sextilis. Inde nos oportet decedere a. d. III Kalendas Sextilis. primum contendam a Quinto fratre ut se praefici patiatur, quod et illo et me invitissimo fiet. sed aliter honeste fieri non potest, praesertim cum virum optimum Pomptinum ne nunc quidem retinere possim. rapit enim hominem Postumius Romam, fortasse etiam Postumia.
{{pn|21.10|10}}habes consilia nostra; nunc cognosce de Bruto. Familians habet Brutus tuus quosdam creditores Salaminiorum ex Cypro, M. Scaptium et P. Matinium; quos mihi maiorem in modum commendavit. Matinium non novi, Scaptius ad me in castra venit. pollicitus sum curaturum me Bruti causa ut ei Salaminii pecuniam solverent. egit gratias. praefecturam petivit. negavi me cuiquam negotianti dare (quod idem tibi ostenderam Cn. Pompeio petenti probaram institutum meum, quid dicam Torquato de M. Laenio tuo, multis aliis?); sin praefectus vellet esse syngraphae causa, me curaturum ut exigeret. Gratias egit, discessit. Appius noster turmas aliquot equitum dederat huic Scaptio per quas Salaminios coerceret, et eundem habuerat praefectum; vexabat Salaminios. ego equites ex Cypro decedere iussi. moleste tulit Scaptius. {{pn|21.11|11}}quid multa? ut ei fidem meam praestarem, cum ad me Salaminii Tarsum venissent et in iis Scaptius, imperavi ut pecuniam solverent. multa de syngrapha, de Scapti iniuriis. negavi me audire; hortatus sum, petivi etiam pro meis in civitatem beneficiis ut negotium conficerent, dixi denique me coacturum. homines non modo non recusare sed etiam hoc dicere, se a me solvere quod enim praetori dare consuessent, quoniam ego non acceperam, se a me quodam modo dare atque etiam minus esse aliquanto in Scapti nomine quam in vectigali praetorio. conlaudavi homines. ‘recte’ inquit Scaptius, ‘sed subducamus summam.’ interim cum ego in edicto translaticio centesimas me observaturum haberem cum anatocismo anniversario, ille ex syngrapha postulabat quaternas. ‘quid ais?’ inquam, ‘possumne contra meum edictum?’ at ille profert senatus consultum Lentulo Philippoque consulibus, UT QUI CILICIAM OBTINERET IUS EX ILLA SYNGRAPHA DICERET.
{{pn|21.12|12}}cohorrui primo; etenim erat interitus civitatis. reperio duo senatus consulta isdem consulibus de eadem syngrapha. Salaminii cum Romae versuram facere vellent, non poterant, quod lex Gabinia vetabat. tum iis Bruti familiares freti gratia Bruti dare volebant quaternis, si sibi senatus consulto caveretur. fit gratia Bruti senatus consultum, UT NEVE SALAMINIS NEVE QUI EIS DEDISSET FRAUDI ESSET. Pecuniam numerarunt. at postea venit in mentem faeneratoribus nihil se iuvare illud senatus consultum, quod ex syngrapha ius dici lex Gabinia vetaret. tum fit senatus consultum, UT EX EA SYNGRAPHA IUS DICERETUR, (non ut alio iure ea syngrapha) esset quam ceterae sed ut eodem. Cum haec disseruissem, seducit me Scaptius; ait se nihil contra dicere sed illos putare talenta CC se debere; ea se velle accipere; debere autem illos paulo minus. rogat ut eos ad ducenta perducam. ‘optime’ inquam. voco illos ad me remoto Scaptio. ‘quid? vos quantum’ inquam ‘debetis?’ respondent CVI. refero ad Scaptium. homo clamare. ‘quid? opus est’ inquam ‘rationes conferatis.’ adsidunt, subducunt; (ad) nummum convenit. illi se numerare velle, urgere ut acciperet. Scaptius me rursus seducit, rogat ut rem sic relinquam. dedi veniam homini impudenter petenti; Graecis querentibus, ut in fano deponerent postulantibus non concessi. clamare omnes qui aderant, (alii) nihil impudentius Scaptio qui centesimis cum anatocismo contentus (non) esset, alii nihil stultius. mihi autem impudens magis quam stultus videbatur; nam aut bono nomine centesimis contentus non erat aut non bono quaternas centesimas sperabat. habes meam causam.
{{pn|21.13|13}}quae si Bruto non probatur, nescio cur illum amemus. sed avunculo eius certe probabitur, praesertim cum senatus consultum modo factum sit, puto, postquam tu es profectus, in creditorum causa ut centesimae perpetuo faenore ducerentur. hoc quid intersit, si tuos digitos novi, certe habes subductum. in quo quidem, {{Graeca|ὁδοῦ πάρεργον}}, (L.) Lucceius M. f. queritur apud me per litteras summum esse periculum ne culpa senatus his decretis res ad tabulas novas perveniat; commemorat quid olim mali C. Iulius fecerit cum dieculam duxerit; numquam rei publicae plus. sed ad rem redeo. meditare adversus Brutum causam meam, si haec causa est contra quam nihil honeste dici potest, praesertim cum integram rem et causam reliquerim.
{{pn|21.14|14}}reliqua sunt domestica. de {{Graeca|ἐνδομύχῳ}} probo idem quod tu, Postumiae filio, quoniam Pontidia nugatur. sed vellem adesses. A Quinto fratre his mensibus nihil exspectaris; nam Taurus propter nives ante mensem Iunium transiri non potest. Thermum, ut rogas, creberrimis litteris fulcio. P. Valerium negat habere quicquam Deiotarus rex eumque ait (a) se sustentari. Cum scies Romae intercalatum sit necne, velim ad me scribas certum quo die mysteria futura sint. Litteras tuas minus paulo exspecto quam si Romae esses sed tamen exspecto.
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| Præcepti.
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| {{et}}
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| Medii.
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| 2. Ab usu {{et}} fine Ministerii.
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| 3. A morbis {{et}} miseriis nostris.
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| 4. A damno.
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| rowspan="20" | 4. Applicatur.
| rowspan="20" | {{brace2|20|l}}
| 1. Ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, de Ministerii duratione. [[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IV|cap. 4]].
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| rowspan="2" | Id{{que}}; tractatur
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|Κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando, 9. Argum.
|-
| 2. {{graeca|Ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabaptistarum offucias refutando. [[[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum V|cap. 5]].
|-
| rowspan="5" | 2. Ad {{graeca|παιδείαν}} quadruplicem.
| rowspan="5" | {{brace2|5|l}}
| 1. De absoluta Minist. Necessitate. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VI|cap. 6]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. De Minist. Dignitate, ubi additur. 2. cautio.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. contra sal insipidum.
|-
| 2. contra fratres dotatos.
|-
| 3. De Academiarum necessitate.
|-
| 4. De Salsi Ministerii efficacia.
|-
| 3. Ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, Sanis {{et}} sapidis Verbi Ministris, adversus ingrati mundi odium {{et}} contemptum. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VII|cap. 7]].
|-
| 4. Ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}, ubi fanaticorum deliria contra Ministrorum stipendia plenè ventilantur, nec non salarium Sufficiens, Honorificum, fixum iis esse debitum tàm Jure Divino, quàm Jure Humano, in foro Poli, {{et}} in foro Soli, plusquam 20. Argumentis demonstratur. [[[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IX|cap. 9]].
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| rowspan="10" | 5. Ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum X|cap. 10]]. ubi excitantur Pastores ad Pascendum {{et}} saliendum, simul{{que}} ostenditur, debere hoc fieri.
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| 1. Exemplariter {{et}} Vitâ.
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| 2. Ministerialiter {{et}} Voce.
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| 3. Diligenter.
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| 4. Audacter.
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| 5. Amanter.
|-
| 6. Ardenter.
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| 7. Purè.
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| 8. Planè.
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| 9. Plenè.
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| 10. Sincerè.
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| rowspan="30" | ''Thesis ipsa.''
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| 1. Proponitur.
| [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum I|c. 1.]] Ubi Ministerii Evangel. Necessitas, {{et}}c. ostenditur.
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. Exponitur.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|ὅτι}}, à Salis Natura, {{et}} 16. Proprietatibus.
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| 2. à Titulis Honorificis, quibus insigniuntur Pastores Ecclesiastici. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum II|cap. 2.]]
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| rowspan="7" | 3. Probatur.
| rowspan="7" | {{brace2|7|l}}
| {{graeca|διότι}}, ubi Rationibus evincitur Ministerii dignitas {{et}} necessitas. [[[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum III|cap. 3]].
|-
| rowspan="6" | id{{que}};
| rowspan="6" | {{brace2|6|l}}
| rowspan="3" | 1. Necessitate
| rowspan="3" | {{brace2|3|l}}
| Præcepti.
|-
| {{et}}
|-
| Medii.
|-
| 2. Ab usu {{et}} fine Ministerii.
|-
| 3. A morbis {{et}} miseriis nostris.
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| 4. A damno.
|-
| rowspan="20" | 4. Applicatur.
| rowspan="20" | {{brace2|20|l}}
| 1. Ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, de Ministerii duratione. [[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IV|cap. 4]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | Id{{que}}; tractatur
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|Κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando, 9. Argum.
|-
| 2. {{graeca|Ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabaptistarum offucias refutando. [[[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum V|cap. 5]].
|-
| rowspan="5" | 2. Ad {{graeca|παιδείαν}} quadruplicem.
| rowspan="5" | {{brace2|5|l}}
| 1. De absoluta Minist. Necessitate. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VI|cap. 6]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. De Minist. Dignitate, ubi additur. 2. cautio.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. contra sal insipidum.
|-
| 2. contra fratres dotatos.
|-
| 3. De Academiarum necessitate.
|-
| 4. De Salsi Ministerii efficacia.
|-
| 3. Ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, Sanis {{et}} sapidis Verbi Ministris, adversus ingrati mundi odium {{et}} contemptum. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VII|cap. 7]].
|-
| 4. Ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}, ubi fanaticorum deliria contra Ministrorum stipendia plenè ventilantur, nec non salarium Sufficiens, Honorificum, fixum iis esse debitum tàm Jure Divino, quàm Jure Humano, in foro Poli, {{et}} in foro Soli, plusquam 20. Argumentis demonstratur. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IX|cap. 9]].
|-
| rowspan="10" | 5. Ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum X|cap. 10]]. ubi excitantur Pastores ad Pascendum {{et}} saliendum, simul{{que}} ostenditur, debere hoc fieri.
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| 1. Exemplariter {{et}} Vitâ.
|-
| 2. Ministerialiter {{et}} Voce.
|-
| 3. Diligenter.
|-
| 4. Audacter.
|-
| 5. Amanter.
|-
| 6. Ardenter.
|-
| 7. Purè.
|-
| 8. Planè.
|-
| 9. Plenè.
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| 10. Sincerè.
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| rowspan="30" | ''Thesis ipsa.''
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| 1. Proponitur.
| [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum I|c. 1.]] Ubi Ministerii Evangel. Necessitas, {{et}}c. ostenditur.
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. Exponitur.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|ὅτι}}, à Salis Natura, {{et}} 16. Proprietatibus.
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| 2. à Titulis Honorificis, quibus insigniuntur Pastores Ecclesiastici. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum II|cap. 2.]]
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| rowspan="7" | 3. Probatur.
| rowspan="7" | {{brace2|7|l}}
| {{graeca|διότι}}, ubi Rationibus evincitur Ministerii dignitas {{et}} necessitas. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum III|cap. 3]].
|-
| rowspan="6" | id{{que}};
| rowspan="6" | {{brace2|6|l}}
| rowspan="3" | 1. Necessitate
| rowspan="3" | {{brace2|3|l}}
| Præcepti.
|-
| {{et}}
|-
| Medii.
|-
| 2. Ab usu {{et}} fine Ministerii.
|-
| 3. A morbis {{et}} miseriis nostris.
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| 4. A damno.
|-
| rowspan="20" | 4. Applicatur.
| rowspan="20" | {{brace2|20|l}}
| 1. Ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, de Ministerii duratione. [[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IV|cap. 4]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | Id{{que}}; tractatur
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|Κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando, 9. Argum.
|-
| 2. {{graeca|Ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabaptistarum offucias refutando. [[[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum V|cap. 5]].
|-
| rowspan="5" | 2. Ad {{graeca|παιδείαν}} quadruplicem.
| rowspan="5" | {{brace2|5|l}}
| 1. De absoluta Minist. Necessitate. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VI|cap. 6]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. De Minist. Dignitate, ubi additur. 2. cautio.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. contra sal insipidum.
|-
| 2. contra fratres dotatos.
|-
| 3. De Academiarum necessitate.
|-
| 4. De Salsi Ministerii efficacia.
|-
| 3. Ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, Sanis {{et}} sapidis Verbi Ministris, adversus ingrati mundi odium {{et}} contemptum. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VII|cap. 7]].
|-
| 4. Ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}, ubi fanaticorum deliria contra Ministrorum stipendia plenè ventilantur, nec non salarium Sufficiens, Honorificum, fixum iis esse debitum tàm Jure Divino, quàm Jure Humano, in foro Poli, {{et}} in foro Soli, plusquam 20. Argumentis demonstratur. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IX|cap. 9]].
|-
| rowspan="10" | 5. Ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum X|cap. 10]]. ubi excitantur Pastores ad Pascendum {{et}} saliendum, simul{{que}} ostenditur, debere hoc fieri.
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| 1. Exemplariter {{et}} Vitâ.
|-
| 2. Ministerialiter {{et}} Voce.
|-
| 3. Diligenter.
|-
| 4. Audacter.
|-
| 5. Amanter.
|-
| 6. Ardenter.
|-
| 7. Purè.
|-
| 8. Planè.
|-
| 9. Plenè.
|-
| 10. Sincerè.
|}<noinclude></noinclude>
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| 1. Proponitur.
| [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum I|c. 1.]] Ubi Ministerii Evangel. Necessitas, {{et}}c. ostenditur.
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. Exponitur.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|ὅτι}}, à Salis Natura, {{et}} 16. Proprietatibus.
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| 2. à Titulis Honorificis, quibus insigniuntur Pastores Ecclesiastici. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum II|cap. 2.]]
|-
| rowspan="7" | 3. Probatur.
| rowspan="7" | {{brace2|7|l}}
| {{graeca|διότι}}, ubi Rationibus evincitur Ministerii dignitas {{et}} necessitas. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum III|cap. 3]].
|-
| rowspan="6" | id{{que}};
| rowspan="6" | {{brace2|6|l}}
| rowspan="3" | 1. Necessitate
| rowspan="3" | {{brace2|3|l}}
| Præcepti.
|-
| {{et}}
|-
| Medii.
|-
| 2. Ab usu {{et}} fine Ministerii.
|-
| 3. A morbis {{et}} miseriis nostris.
|-
| 4. A damno.
|-
| rowspan="20" | 4. Applicatur.
| rowspan="20" | {{brace2|20|l}}
| 1. Ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, de Ministerii duratione. [[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IV|cap. 4]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | Id{{que}}; tractatur
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|Κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando, 9. Argum.
|-
| 2. {{graeca|Ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabaptistarum offucias refutando. [[[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum V|cap. 5]].
|-
| rowspan="5" | 2. Ad {{graeca|παιδείαν}} quadruplicem.
| rowspan="5" | {{brace2|5|l}}
| 1. De absoluta Minist. Necessitate. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VI|cap. 6]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. De Minist. Dignitate, ubi additur. 2. cautio.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. contra sal insipidum.
|-
| 2. contra fratres dotatos.
|-
| 3. De Academiarum necessitate.
|-
| 4. De Salsi Ministerii efficacia.
|-
| 3. Ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, Sanis {{et}} sapidis Verbi Ministris, adversus ingrati mundi odium {{et}} contemptum. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VII|cap. 7]].
|-
| 4. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VIII|Ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}], ubi fanaticorum deliria contra Ministrorum stipendia plenè ventilantur, nec non salarium Sufficiens, Honorificum, fixum iis esse debitum tàm Jure Divino, quàm Jure Humano, in foro Poli, {{et}} in foro Soli, plusquam 20. Argumentis demonstratur. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IX|cap. 9]].
|-
| rowspan="10" | 5. Ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum X|cap. 10]]. ubi excitantur Pastores ad Pascendum {{et}} saliendum, simul{{que}} ostenditur, debere hoc fieri.
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| 1. Exemplariter {{et}} Vitâ.
|-
| 2. Ministerialiter {{et}} Voce.
|-
| 3. Diligenter.
|-
| 4. Audacter.
|-
| 5. Amanter.
|-
| 6. Ardenter.
|-
| 7. Purè.
|-
| 8. Planè.
|-
| 9. Plenè.
|-
| 10. Sincerè.
|}<noinclude></noinclude>
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| rowspan="30" | ''Thesis ipsa.''
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| 1. Proponitur.
| [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum I|c. 1.]] Ubi Ministerii Evangel. Necessitas, {{et}}c. ostenditur.
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. Exponitur.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|ὅτι}}, à Salis Natura, {{et}} 16. Proprietatibus.
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| 2. à Titulis Honorificis, quibus insigniuntur Pastores Ecclesiastici. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum II|cap. 2.]]
|-
| rowspan="7" | 3. Probatur.
| rowspan="7" | {{brace2|7|l}}
| {{graeca|διότι}}, ubi Rationibus evincitur Ministerii dignitas {{et}} necessitas. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum III|cap. 3]].
|-
| rowspan="6" | id{{que}};
| rowspan="6" | {{brace2|6|l}}
| rowspan="3" | 1. Necessitate
| rowspan="3" | {{brace2|3|l}}
| Præcepti.
|-
| {{et}}
|-
| Medii.
|-
| 2. Ab usu {{et}} fine Ministerii.
|-
| 3. A morbis {{et}} miseriis nostris.
|-
| 4. A damno.
|-
| rowspan="20" | 4. Applicatur.
| rowspan="20" | {{brace2|20|l}}
| 1. Ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, de Ministerii duratione. [[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IV|cap. 4]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | Id{{que}}; tractatur
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|Κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando, 9. Argum.
|-
| 2. {{graeca|Ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabaptistarum offucias refutando. [[[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum V|cap. 5]].
|-
| rowspan="5" | 2. Ad {{graeca|παιδείαν}} quadruplicem.
| rowspan="5" | {{brace2|5|l}}
| 1. De absoluta Minist. Necessitate. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VI|cap. 6]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. De Minist. Dignitate, ubi additur. 2. cautio.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. contra sal insipidum.
|-
| 2. contra fratres dotatos.
|-
| 3. De Academiarum necessitate.
|-
| 4. De Salsi Ministerii efficacia.
|-
| 3. Ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, Sanis {{et}} sapidis Verbi Ministris, adversus ingrati mundi odium {{et}} contemptum. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VII|cap. 7]].
|-
| 4. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VIII|Ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}]], ubi fanaticorum deliria contra Ministrorum stipendia plenè ventilantur, nec non salarium Sufficiens, Honorificum, fixum iis esse debitum tàm Jure Divino, quàm Jure Humano, in foro Poli, {{et}} in foro Soli, plusquam 20. Argumentis demonstratur. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IX|cap. 9]].
|-
| rowspan="10" | 5. Ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum X|cap. 10]]. ubi excitantur Pastores ad Pascendum {{et}} saliendum, simul{{que}} ostenditur, debere hoc fieri.
| rowspan="10" | {{brace2|10|l}}
| 1. Exemplariter {{et}} Vitâ.
|-
| 2. Ministerialiter {{et}} Voce.
|-
| 3. Diligenter.
|-
| 4. Audacter.
|-
| 5. Amanter.
|-
| 6. Ardenter.
|-
| 7. Purè.
|-
| 8. Planè.
|-
| 9. Plenè.
|-
| 10. Sincerè.
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| rowspan="30" | ''Thesis ipsa.''
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| 1. Proponitur.
| [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum I|c. 1.]] Ubi Ministerii Evangel. Necessitas, {{et}}c. ostenditur.
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. Exponitur.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|ὅτι}}, à Salis Natura, {{et}} 16. Proprietatibus.
|-
| 2. à Titulis Honorificis, quibus insigniuntur Pastores Ecclesiastici. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum II|cap. 2.]]
|-
| rowspan="7" | 3. Probatur.
| rowspan="7" | {{brace2|7|l}}
| {{graeca|διότι}}, ubi Rationibus evincitur Ministerii dignitas {{et}} necessitas. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum III|cap. 3]].
|-
| rowspan="6" | id{{que}};
| rowspan="6" | {{brace2|6|l}}
| rowspan="3" | 1. Necessitate
| rowspan="3" | {{brace2|3|l}}
| Præcepti.
|-
| {{et}}
|-
| Medii.
|-
| 2. Ab usu {{et}} fine Ministerii.
|-
| 3. A morbis {{et}} miseriis nostris.
|-
| 4. A damno.
|-
| rowspan="20" | 4. Applicatur.
| rowspan="20" | {{brace2|20|l}}
| 1. Ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, de Ministerii duratione. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IV|cap. 4]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | Id{{que}}; tractatur
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|Κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando, 9. Argum.
|-
| 2. {{graeca|Ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabaptistarum offucias refutando. [[[[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum V|cap. 5]].
|-
| rowspan="5" | 2. Ad {{graeca|παιδείαν}} quadruplicem.
| rowspan="5" | {{brace2|5|l}}
| 1. De absoluta Minist. Necessitate. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VI|cap. 6]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | 2. De Minist. Dignitate, ubi additur. 2. cautio.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. contra sal insipidum.
|-
| 2. contra fratres dotatos.
|-
| 3. De Academiarum necessitate.
|-
| 4. De Salsi Ministerii efficacia.
|-
| 3. Ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, Sanis {{et}} sapidis Verbi Ministris, adversus ingrati mundi odium {{et}} contemptum. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VII|cap. 7]].
|-
| 4. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VIII|Ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}]], ubi fanaticorum deliria contra Ministrorum stipendia plenè ventilantur, nec non salarium Sufficiens, Honorificum, fixum iis esse debitum tàm Jure Divino, quàm Jure Humano, in foro Poli, {{et}} in foro Soli, plusquam 20. Argumentis demonstratur. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IX|cap. 9]].
|-
| rowspan="10" | 5. Ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum X|cap. 10]]. ubi excitantur Pastores ad Pascendum {{et}} saliendum, simul{{que}} ostenditur, debere hoc fieri.
| rowspan="10" | {{brace2|10|l}}
| 1. Exemplariter {{et}} Vitâ.
|-
| 2. Ministerialiter {{et}} Voce.
|-
| 3. Diligenter.
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| 4. Audacter.
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{{c|''Synopsis {{et}} quasi {{graeca|σκιαγραφία}}.''}}
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| rowspan="30" | ''Thesis ipsa.''
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| 1. Proponitur.
| [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum I|c. 1.]] Ubi Ministerii Evangel. Necessitas, {{et}}c. ostenditur.
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| rowspan="2" | 2. Exponitur.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|ὅτι}}, à Salis Natura, {{et}} 16. Proprietatibus.
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| 2. à Titulis Honorificis, quibus insigniuntur Pastores Ecclesiastici. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum II|cap. 2.]]
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| rowspan="7" | 3. Probatur.
| rowspan="7" | {{brace2|7|l}}
| {{graeca|διότι}}, ubi Rationibus evincitur Ministerii dignitas {{et}} necessitas. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum III|cap. 3]].
|-
| rowspan="6" | id{{que}};
| rowspan="6" | {{brace2|6|l}}
| rowspan="3" | 1. Necessitate
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| Præcepti.
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| {{et}}
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| Medii.
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| 2. Ab usu {{et}} fine Ministerii.
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| 3. A morbis {{et}} miseriis nostris.
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| 4. A damno.
|-
| rowspan="20" | 4. Applicatur.
| rowspan="20" | {{brace2|20|l}}
| 1. Ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, de Ministerii duratione. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IV|cap. 4]].
|-
| rowspan="2" | Id{{que}}; tractatur
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. {{graeca|Κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando, 9. Argum.
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| 2. {{graeca|Ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabaptistarum offucias refutando. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum V|cap. 5]].
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| rowspan="5" | 2. Ad {{graeca|παιδείαν}} quadruplicem.
| rowspan="5" | {{brace2|5|l}}
| 1. De absoluta Minist. Necessitate. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VI|cap. 6]].
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| rowspan="2" | 2. De Minist. Dignitate, ubi additur. 2. cautio.
| rowspan="2" | {{brace2|2|l}}
| 1. contra sal insipidum.
|-
| 2. contra fratres dotatos.
|-
| 3. De Academiarum necessitate.
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| 4. De Salsi Ministerii efficacia.
|-
| 3. Ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, Sanis {{et}} sapidis Verbi Ministris, adversus ingrati mundi odium {{et}} contemptum. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VII|cap. 7]].
|-
| 4. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VIII|Ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}]], ubi fanaticorum deliria contra Ministrorum stipendia plenè ventilantur, nec non salarium Sufficiens, Honorificum, fixum iis esse debitum tàm Jure Divino, quàm Jure Humano, in foro Poli, {{et}} in foro Soli, plusquam 20. Argumentis demonstratur. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IX|cap. 9]].
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| rowspan="10" | 5. Ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}. [[Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum X|cap. 10]]. ubi excitantur Pastores ad Pascendum {{et}} saliendum, simul{{que}} ostenditur, debere hoc fieri.
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| 1. Exemplariter {{et}} Vitâ.
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| 2. Ministerialiter {{et}} Voce.
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| 3. Diligenter.
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| 4. Audacter.
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| 5. Amanter.
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| 6. Ardenter.
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| 7. Purè.
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| 8. Planè.
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| 9. Plenè.
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| 10. Sincerè.
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SIVE<br/>
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{{x-maior|MINISTERII EVANGELICI.}}
''Matth. 5,13.''<br/>
{{graeca|Ὑμεῖς ἐστε τὸ ἅλας τῆς γῆς.}}<br/>
''Vos e{{s}}tis Sal terr{{ae}}''.}}
{{Initialis ornata|T}}Extus quò magis accommodus, eò magis commodus; quò tempori congruentior, eò melior. Pa{{s}}tores Evangelici (neminem, ut opinor, latet) hac pr{{ae}}cipuè tempe{{s}}tate, ubique conculcantur, {{s}}u{{s}}que déque à nefariis habentur; inclamant undi{{que}} fanatici, plenis vociferantur buccis, Hi, impo{{s}}tores populi, Pe{{s}}tes mundi, f{{ae}}ces hominum, Sacerdotes Baalitici, Locu{{s}}t{{ae}} infernales, Antichri{{s}}ti membra, Venefici, Latrones, Mendaces, Viperarum progenies, rapaces lupi, Parietes dealbati, Mercatores Babylonici, Loyoli{{s}}t{{ae}} furibundi, hypocrit{{ae}} rancidi, canes rabidi, Simones Magi, D{{ae}}mones immundi, ut ogganiunt nonnulli D{{ae}}monum ma{{s}}tigi{{ae}}. Hos omnes uno<section end="capitulumi"/><noinclude></noinclude>
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SIVE<br/>
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{{x-maior|MINISTERII EVANGELICI.}}
''Matth. 5,13.''<br/>
{{graeca|Ὑμεῖς ἐστε τὸ ἅλας τῆς γῆς.}}<br/>
''Vos e{{s}}tis Sal terr{{ae}}''.}}
{{Initialis ornata|T}}Extus quò magis accommodus, eò magis commodus; quò tempori congruentior, eò melior. Pa{{s}}tores Evangelici (neminem, ut opinor, latet) hac pr{{ae}}cipuè tempe{{s}}tate, ubique conculcantur, {{s}}u{{s}}que déque à nefariis habentur; inclamant undi{{que}} fanatici, plenis vociferantur buccis, Hi, impo{{s}}tores populi, Pe{{s}}tes mundi, f{{ae}}ces hominum, Sacerdotes Baalitici, Locu{{s}}t{{ae}} infernales, Antichri{{s}}ti membra, Venefici, Latrones, Mendaces, Viperarum progenies, rapaces lupi, Parietes dealbati, Mercatores Babylonici, Loyoli{{s}}t{{ae}} furibundi, hypocrit{{ae}} rancidi, canes rabidi, Simones Magi, D{{ae}}mones immundi, ut ogganiunt nonnulli D{{ae}}monum ma{{s}}tigi{{ae}}. Hos omnes uno<section end="capitulumi"/><noinclude></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="2" user="JimKillock" /></noinclude>fefellit verbo Salvator no{{s}}ter, Vos e{{s}}tis (non Regnorum perturbatores, non Regum Proditores, non mundi Pe{{s}}tes, non urbis {{graeca|[illeg.]}} non orbis {{graeca|[illeg.]}} {{s}}ed e{{s}}tis) mundi Sol, terr{{ae}} Sal. {{graeca|Ὑμεῖς ἐστε τὸ ἅλας τῆς γῆς.}}
{{marginalia dextra|Figurato utitur {{s}}ermone, q. figur{{ae}} plerumque habent plus ponderis {{et}} acrimoni{{ae}} quàm {{s}}implicia verba. Pareus.}}Qu{{ae}} ''Verba ut'' facilius interpretemur, contextu fi{{s}}tigemur. In hac {{s}}ecunda hujus capitis Pericope, o{{s}}tendit Chri{{s}}tus tribus Emphaticis Metaphoris vel Similitudinibus, vid. Salis, Lucis, {{et}} oppidi in monte po{{s}}iti; quales e{{s}}{{s}}e debeant Mini{{s}}tri {{s}}ui, (1) non tantùm Doctores, {{s}}ed {{et}} Factores; non {{s}}olùm habeant Salem doctrin{{ae}}, {{s}}ed {{et}} lucem vit{{ae}}. Sole verò {{et}} ''Sale nihil utilius.'' Salis Metaphora graphicè demon{{s}}trat nece{{s}}{{s}}itatem, vim, efficaciam {{et}} fructum Mini{{s}}terii Evangelici: Sicut enim Sale conditur caro ne putre{{s}}cat; ita Mini{{s}}terio verbi anim{{ae}} condiuntur no{{s}}tr{{ae}}, ne putredine corrumpantur.
Textus ip{{s}}e e{{s}}t Propo{{s}}itio Categorica, con{{s}}t{{an}}s ex Subjecto, Pr{{ae}}dicato, {{et}} Copula. 1.{{marginalia dextra|Verba {{s}}unt pauca, at valdè emphatica.}} Subjectum e{{s}}t Vos, (1) Vos di{{s}}cipuli mei unà cum {{s}}ucce{{s}}{{s}}oribus ve{{s}}tris, vid. omnibus Evangelii pr{{ae}}conibus. 2. Copula, E{{s}}tis, non po{{s}}teà eritis; {{s}}ed in pr{{ae}}{{s}}enti, electione, {{et}} vocatione, ne nimirum Chri{{s}}ti, E{{s}}tis. 3. Pr{{ae}}dicatum, Sal terr{{ae}}. {{marginalia dextra|Intelligit eorum e{{s}}{{s}}e officium Sa-}} (1) condimentum hominum in terris viventium: nam ut Sal e{{s}}t condimentum {{pt|quod-|}}<noinclude></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="3" user="JimKillock" /></noinclude>fefellit verbo Salvator no{{s}}ter, Vos e{{s}}tis (non Regnorum perturbatores, non Regum Proditores, non mundi Pe{{s}}tes, non urbis {{graeca|[illeg.]}} non orbis {{graeca|[illeg.]}} {{s}}ed e{{s}}tis) mundi Sol, terr{{ae}} Sal. {{graeca|Ὑμεῖς ἐστε τὸ ἅλας τῆς γῆς.}}
{{marginalia dextra|Figurato utitur {{s}}ermone, q. figur{{ae}} plerumque habent plus ponderis {{et}} acrimoni{{ae}} quàm {{s}}implicia verba. Pareus.}}Qu{{ae}} ''Verba ut'' facilius interpretemur, contextu fi{{s}}tigemur. In hac {{s}}ecunda hujus capitis Pericope, o{{s}}tendit Chri{{s}}tus tribus Emphaticis Metaphoris vel Similitudinibus, vid. Salis, Lucis, {{et}} oppidi in monte po{{s}}iti; quales e{{s}}{{s}}e debeant Mini{{s}}tri {{s}}ui, (1) non tantùm Doctores, {{s}}ed {{et}} Factores; non {{s}}olùm habeant Salem doctrin{{ae}}, {{s}}ed {{et}} lucem vit{{ae}}. Sole verò {{et}} ''Sale nihil utilius.'' Salis Metaphora graphicè demon{{s}}trat nece{{s}}{{s}}itatem, vim, efficaciam {{et}} fructum Mini{{s}}terii Evangelici: Sicut enim Sale conditur caro ne putre{{s}}cat; ita Mini{{s}}terio verbi anim{{ae}} condiuntur no{{s}}tr{{ae}}, ne putredine corrumpantur.
Textus ip{{s}}e e{{s}}t Propo{{s}}itio Categorica, con{{s}}t{{an}}s ex Subjecto, Pr{{ae}}dicato, {{et}} Copula. 1.{{marginalia dextra|Verba {{s}}unt pauca, at valdè emphatica.}} Subjectum e{{s}}t Vos, (1) Vos di{{s}}cipuli mei unà cum {{s}}ucce{{s}}{{s}}oribus ve{{s}}tris, vid. omnibus Evangelii pr{{ae}}conibus. 2. Copula, E{{s}}tis, non po{{s}}teà eritis; {{s}}ed in pr{{ae}}{{s}}enti, electione, {{et}} vocatione, ne nimirum Chri{{s}}ti, E{{s}}tis. 3. Pr{{ae}}dicatum, Sal terr{{ae}}. {{marginalia dextra|Intelligit eorum e{{s}}{{s}}e officium Sa-}} (1) condimentum hominum in terris viventium: nam ut Sal e{{s}}t condimentum {{pt|quod-|}}<noinclude></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="3" user="JimKillock" /></noinclude>fefellit verbo Salvator no{{s}}ter, Vos e{{s}}tis (non Regnorum perturbatores, non Regum Proditores, non mundi Pe{{s}}tes, non urbis {{graeca|[illeg.]}} non orbis {{graeca|[illeg.]}} {{s}}ed e{{s}}tis) mundi Sol, terr{{ae}} Sal. {{graeca|Ὑμεῖς ἐστε τὸ ἅλας τῆς γῆς.}}
{{marginalia dextra|Figurato utitur {{s}}ermone, q. figur{{ae}} plerumque habent plus ponderis {{et}} acrimoni{{ae}} quàm {{s}}implicia verba. Pareus.}}Qu{{ae}} ''Verba ut'' facilius interpretemur, contextu fi{{s}}tigemur. In hac {{s}}ecunda hujus capitis Pericope, o{{s}}tendit Chri{{s}}tus tribus Emphaticis Metaphoris vel Similitudinibus, vid. Salis, Lucis, {{et}} oppidi in monte po{{s}}iti; quales e{{s}}{{s}}e debeant Mini{{s}}tri {{s}}ui, (1) non tantùm Doctores, {{s}}ed {{et}} Factores; non {{s}}olùm habeant Salem doctrin{{ae}}, {{s}}ed {{et}} lucem vit{{ae}}. Sole verò {{et}} ''Sale nihil utilius.'' Salis Metaphora graphicè demon{{s}}trat nece{{s}}{{s}}itatem, vim, efficaciam {{et}} fructum Mini{{s}}terii Evangelici: Sicut enim Sale conditur caro ne putre{{s}}cat; ita Mini{{s}}terio verbi anim{{ae}} condiuntur no{{s}}tr{{ae}}, ne putredine corrumpantur.
Textus ip{{s}}e e{{s}}t Propo{{s}}itio Categorica, con{{s}}t{{an}}s ex Subjecto, Pr{{ae}}dicato, {{et}} Copula. 1.{{marginalia dextra|Verba {{s}}unt pauca, at valdè emphatica.}} Subjectum e{{s}}t Vos, (1) Vos di{{s}}cipuli mei unà cum {{s}}ucce{{s}}{{s}}oribus ve{{s}}tris, vid. omnibus Evangelii pr{{ae}}conibus. 2. Copula, E{{s}}tis, non po{{s}}teà eritis; {{s}}ed in pr{{ae}}{{s}}enti, electione, {{et}} vocatione, ne nimirum Chri{{s}}ti, E{{s}}tis. 3. Pr{{ae}}dicatum, Sal terr{{ae}}. {{marginalia dextra|Intelligit eorum e{{s}}{{s}}e officium Salire terram, quia nihil ni{{s}}i in{{s}}ipidum habet homines, donec {{s}}ale coele{{s}}tis doctrin{{ae}} condiantur. Calvin.}} (1) condimentum hominum in terris viventium: nam ut Sal e{{s}}t condimentum {{pt|quod-|}}<noinclude></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="3" user="Basaundi" />{{rh||VASCONIÆ.|81}}</noinclude>''animo tribuo eis, ut perpetualiter possideant, nullâ personâ regali vel Episcopali contradicente. Facta carta aera M.C. XXVIII. Anno ab incarnationis Domini M.LXXXX. regnante Rege Ildefonso, in Toleto et in Castellâ et in Galliciâ; me autem, Rege Sanctio regnante in Pampilonâ et in Aragone, et filio meo Petro, in Subrarbi, et in Ripacortiâ et in Montson. Episcopus Petrus in Iaccâ, alius Petrus Episcopus in Pampilona, Raymundus Dalmau Episcopus in Rota, Aymericus Abbas in sancto Ioanne de Pinna, Raymundus Abbas in Legerensi cænobio. Si✝gnum Sanctii Regis. Ego Petrus Regis filius signo. Ego Aldefonsus Dei gratia Rex Aragonensium, supra scripta patris mei et fratris, laudo et confirmo et manu propria subfcribo, in æra, M.C.LVIII. Si✝gnum Aldefonsi Regis. Ego Garsias iussu Domini Regis, hanc cartam scripsi et hoc signum feci ✠.''
{{sc|Sed}} quidquid sit de primâ origine istius urbis, cuius conditorem unicum, hunc Regem Sanctium Ramires faciunt Hispani scriptores, præcipuum certè illius authorem atque Constitutorem fuisse Garsiam Ramiresium Pompelonensem Regem, Amplificatorem verò Sanctium huius Garsiæ filium, probant duo firmæ auctoritatis monumenta quæ hîc referentur. Primum eorum est diploma quoddam ab eodem Sanctio Garsiae filio concessum civibus Stellanis, quo leges iis à Garsia Remiresio, cum de condendâ urbe cogitaret, concessas confirmat ac sancit his verbis.
{{sc|In}} ''Dei nomine esta es carta dautoritat et de confirmation que yo Sancho Rey de Navarra filtz del Rey Don Garcia fay a totz los omes d'Estela als qui son presents et als qui son per venir per lo bon servici que vos me faitz totz dies als oms d'Estela als qui son et seran aquels bons fors que dona lo Rey Don Garcia als pobladors de l'Estela quant primera-''<noinclude></noinclude>
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====INDEX====
* [[/Praefatio|'''Praefatio''']]
* [[/Prisciani ad Iulianum epistula|'''Prisciani ad Iulianum epistula''']]
*[[Imago:75%.png]] [[/Liber I|'''Liber I''']]: De voce et eius speciebus; de litera: quid sit de litera, de eius generibus et speciebus; de singularum potestate, quae in quas transeunt per declinationes vel compositiones partium orationis.
*[[Imago:75%.png]] [[/Liber II|'''Liber II''']]: De syllaba: quid sit syllaba, quot literis constare potest et quo ordine et quo sono, de accidentibus singulis syllabis; de dictione: quid sit dictio, quae eius differentia ad syllabam; de oratione: quid sit oratio, quot eius partes, de earum proprietate; de nomine: quid sit nomen, de accidentibus ei, quot sunt species propriorum nominum, quot appellativorum, quot adiectivorum, quot derivativorum; de patronymicis: quot eorum formae, quomodo derivantur, ex quibus primitivis; de diversis possessivorum terminationibus et eorum regulis.
*[[Imago:75%.png]] [[/Liber III|'''Liber III''']]: De comparativis et superlativis et eorum diversis extremitatibus: ex quibus positivis et qua ratione formantur; de diminutivis: quot eorum species, ex quibus declinationibus nominum, quomodo formantur.
*[[Imago:75%.png]] [[/Liber IV|'''Liber IV''']]: De denominativis et verbalibus et participialibus et adverbialibus: quot eorum species, ex quibus primitivis, quomodo nascuntur.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber V|'''Liber V''']]: De generibus dinoscendis, per singulas terminationes; de numeris; de figuris et earum compage; de casu.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber VI|'''Liber VI''']]: De nominativo casu per singulas extremitates omnium nominum, tam in vocales quam in consonantes desinentium, per ordinem; de genetivorum tam ultimis quam paenultimis syllabis.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber VII|'''Liber VII''']]: De ceteris obliquis casibus, tam singularibus quam pluralibus.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber VIII|'''Liber VIII''']]: De verbo et eius accidentibus.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber IX|'''Liber IX''']]: De regulis generalibus omnium coniugationum.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber X|'''Liber X''']]: De praeterito perfecto.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber XI|'''Liber XI''']]: De participio.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber XII|'''Liber XII''']]: De pronomine
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*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber XIII|'''Liber XIII''']]: De pronomine.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber XIV|'''Liber XIV''']]: De praepositione
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber XV|'''Liber XV''']]: De adverbio et interiectione.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber XVI|'''Liber XVI''']]: De coniunctione
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber XVII|'''Liber XVII''']]: De constructione sive ordinatione partium oratiovnis inter se.
*[[Imago:25%.png]] [[/Liber XVIII|'''Liber XVIII''']]: De constructione sive ordinatione partium oratiovnis inter se.
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<noinclude><pagequality level="3" user="Saumache" />{{rh||PRISCIANI AD IVLIANVM EP.|3}}</noinclude>praesul, ut quantamcumque mihi deus annuerit suscepti laboris gloriam, te comite quasi sole quodam dilucidius crescat.
Titulos etiam universi operis per singulos supposui libros, quo facilius, quicquid ex his quaeratur, discretis possit locis inveniri.
{{r|5}}Primus liber continet de voce et eius speciebus; de litera: quid sit de litera, de eius generibus et speciebus; de singularum potestate, quae in quas transeunt per declinationes vel compositiones partium orationis.
Secundus de syllaba: quid sit syllaba, quot literis constare potest et quo ordine et quo sono, de accidentibus singulis syllabis; de dictione: quid sit dictio, quae eius differentia ad syllabam; de oratione: quid sit oratio, quot eius partes, de earum proprietate; de nomine: quid sit nomen, de accidentibus ei, quot sunt species propriorum nominum, quot appellativorum, quot adiectivorum, quot derivativorum; de patronymicis: quot eorum formae, quomodo derivantur, ex quibus primitivis; de diversis possessivorum terminationibus et eorum regulis.
Tertius de comparativis et superlativis et eorum diversis extremitatibus: ex quibus positivis et qua ratione formantur; de diminutivis: quot eorum species, ex quibus declinationibus nominum, quomodo formantur.
{{r|6}}Quartus de denominativis et verbalibus et participialibus et adverbialibus: quot eorum species, ex quibus primitivis, quomodo nascuntur.
Quintus de generibus dinoscendis, per singulas terminationes; de numeris; de figuris et earum compage; de casu.
Sextus de nominativo casu per singulas extremitates omnium nominum, tam in vocales quam in consonantes desinentium, per ordinem; de genetivorum tam ultimis quam paenultimis syllabis.
Septimus de ceteris obliquis casibus, tam singularibus quam pluralibus.<noinclude><references/></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="3" user="Saumache" />{{rh||PRISCIANI AD IVLIANVM EP.|3}}</noinclude><poem>praesul, ut quantamcumque mihi deus annuerit suscepti laboris gloriam, te comite quasi sole quodam dilucidius crescat.
{{gap|2em}}Titulos etiam universi operis per singulos supposui libros, quo facilius, quicquid ex his quaeratur, discretis possit locis inveniri.
{{r|5}}{{gap|2em}}Primus liber continet de voce et eius speciebus; de litera: quid sit de litera, de eius generibus et speciebus; de singularum potestate, quae in quas transeunt per declinationes vel compositiones partium orationis.
{{gap|2em}}Secundus de syllaba: quid sit syllaba, quot literis constare potest et quo ordine et quo sono, de accidentibus singulis syllabis; de dictione: quid sit dictio, quae eius differentia ad syllabam; de oratione: quid sit oratio, quot eius partes, de earum proprietate; de nomine: quid sit nomen, de accidentibus ei, quot sunt species propriorum nominum, quot appellativorum, quot adiectivorum, quot derivativorum; de patronymicis: quot eorum formae, quomodo derivantur, ex quibus primitivis; de diversis possessivorum terminationibus et eorum regulis.
{{gap|2em}}Tertius de comparativis et superlativis et eorum diversis extremitatibus: ex quibus positivis et qua ratione formantur; de diminutivis: quot eorum species, ex quibus declinationibus nominum, quomodo formantur.
{{r|6}}{{gap|2em}}Quartus de denominativis et verbalibus et participialibus et adverbialibus: quot eorum species, ex quibus primitivis, quomodo nascuntur.
{{gap|2em}}Quintus de generibus dinoscendis, per singulas terminationes; de numeris; de figuris et earum compage; de casu.
{{gap|2em}}Sextus de nominativo casu per singulas extremitates omnium nominum, tam in vocales quam in consonantes desinentium, per ordinem; de genetivorum tam ultimis quam paenultimis syllabis.
{{gap|2em}}Septimus de ceteris obliquis casibus, tam singularibus quam pluralibus.</poem><noinclude><references/></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="3" user="Saumache" />{{rh||PRISCIANI AD IVLIANVM EP.|3}}</noinclude>praesul, ut quantamcumque mihi deus annuerit suscepti laboris gloriam, te comite quasi sole quodam dilucidius crescat.
Titulos etiam universi operis per singulos supposui libros, quo facilius, quicquid ex his quaeratur, discretis possit locis inveniri.
<poem>{{r|5}}{{gap|2em}}Primus liber continet de voce et eius speciebus; de litera: quid sit de litera, de eius generibus et speciebus; de singularum potestate, quae in quas transeunt per declinationes vel compositiones partium orationis.
{{gap|2em}}Secundus de syllaba: quid sit syllaba, quot literis constare potest et quo ordine et quo sono, de accidentibus singulis syllabis; de dictione: quid sit dictio, quae eius differentia ad syllabam; de oratione: quid sit oratio, quot eius partes, de earum proprietate; de nomine: quid sit nomen, de accidentibus ei, quot sunt species propriorum nominum, quot appellativorum, quot adiectivorum, quot derivativorum; de patronymicis: quot eorum formae, quomodo derivantur, ex quibus primitivis; de diversis possessivorum terminationibus et eorum regulis.
{{gap|2em}}Tertius de comparativis et superlativis et eorum diversis extremitatibus: ex quibus positivis et qua ratione formantur; de diminutivis: quot eorum species, ex quibus declinationibus nominum, quomodo formantur.
{{r|6}}{{gap|2em}}Quartus de denominativis et verbalibus et participialibus et adverbialibus: quot eorum species, ex quibus primitivis, quomodo nascuntur.
{{gap|2em}}Quintus de generibus dinoscendis, per singulas terminationes; de numeris; de figuris et earum compage; de casu.
{{gap|2em}}Sextus de nominativo casu per singulas extremitates omnium nominum, tam in vocales quam in consonantes desinentium, per ordinem; de genetivorum tam ultimis quam paenultimis syllabis.
{{gap|2em}}Septimus de ceteris obliquis casibus, tam singularibus quam pluralibus.</poem><noinclude><references/></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="4" user="JoanSevier" />{{rh|4|PRISCIANI AD IVLIANVM EP.}}</noinclude><poem>{{gap|2em}}Octavus de verbo et eius accidentibus.
{{gap|2em}}Nonus de regulis generalibus omnium coniugationum.
{{gap|2em}}Decimus de praeterito perfecto.
{{gap|2em}}Vndecimus de participio.
{{gap|2em}}Duodecimus et tertiusdecimus de pronomine.
{{gap|2em}}Quartusdecimus de praepositione.
{{gap|2em}}Quintusdecimnus de adverbio et interiectione.
{{gap|2em}}Sextusdecimus de coniunctione.
{{gap|2em}}Septimusdecimus et octavusdecimus de constructione sive ordinatione partium orationis inter se.</poem><noinclude><references/></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="3" user="Saumache" />{{rh|300|PRISCLIANI INST.}}</noinclude>{{spatium||Alcibiaden ne Lacedaemonii possint reprehendere}}.<ref>[[Ab urbe condita/Liber XXXIX#36.12|Ab urbe condita 39.36.12]]</ref>{{spatium||{{wl|Q243203|Statius}}}} {{spatium||{{wl|Q2708117|Thebaidos}} II}}:<poem>{{gap|4em}}{{spatium||Pentheumque trahens nondum te Phaedimus aequo,
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{{gap|4em}}Omnia sunt oculis}}.<ref>[[Aeneis/Liber X#515|Aeneis 10.515]]</ref></poem>in {{spatium||VIII}}:<poem>{{gap|4em}}{{spatium||Tum rex Euandrus Romanae conditor arcis}}.<ref>[[Aeneis/Liber VIII#313|Aeneis 8.313]]</ref></poem><noinclude><references/></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="3" user="Saumache" />{{rh|300|PRISCLIANI INST.}}</noinclude>{{spatium||Alcibiaden ne Lacedaemonii possint reprehendere}}.<ref>[[Ab urbe condita/Liber XXXIX#36.12|Ab urbe condita 39.36.12]]</ref> {{spatium||{{wl|Q243203|Statius}}}} {{spatium||{{wl|Q2708117|Thebaidos}} II}}:<poem>{{gap|4em}}{{spatium||Pentheumque trahens nondum te Phaedimus aequo,
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{{c|{{ancora+|DE VOCATIVO SINGVLARE SECVNDAE DECLINATIONIS|'''DE VOCATIVO SINGVLARE SECVNDAE DECLINATIONIS.'''}}}}
<p>{{r|17}}Vocativus huius declinationis, quando in r vel in m finitur nominativus, similis est ei, ut ‘hic lucifer o lucifer’, ‘hic sacer o sacer’, ‘hic vir o vir’, ‘hic satur o satur’, ‘hoc templum o templum’, ‘haec Glycerium o Glycerium’. {{spatium||{{wl|Q1398|Virgilius}}}} cum paulo ante ‘Thymber’ nominativum protulit, mox vocativum ‘Thymbre’ posuit in {{spatium||X}}:<poem>{{gap|4em}}{{spatium||Daucia, Laride Thymberque simillima proles}},<ref>[[Aeneis/Liber X#390|Aeneis 10.391]]</ref></poem>et:<poem>{{gap|4em}}{{spatium||Nam tibi, Thymbre, caput Euandrius abstulit ensis}}.<ref>[[Aeneis/Liber X#390|Aeneis 10.394]]</ref></poem>sed non est vocativus a nominativo in ‘er’ desinente, sed in ‘us’ accipiendus: ‘hic Thymbrus o Thymbre’; solent enim poetae huiuscemodi saepe nomina tam in ‘er’ quam in ‘us’ proferre: ‘Teucer’ et ‘Teucrus’, ‘Euander’ et ‘Euandrus’. in {{spatium||X}}:<poem>{{gap|14em}}{{spatium||Pallas, Euander, in ipsis
{{gap|4em}}Omnia sunt oculis}}.<ref>[[Aeneis/Liber X#515|Aeneis 10.515]]</ref></poem>in {{spatium||VIII}}:<poem>{{gap|4em}}{{spatium||Tum rex Euandrus Romanae conditor arcis}}.<ref>[[Aeneis/Liber VIII#313|Aeneis 8.313]]</ref></poem><noinclude><references/></noinclude>
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[[Fasciculus:Janko_polic_kamov.jpg|thumb|right|Janko Polić Kamov]]
Janko Polić Kamov (1886–1910)
poeta, prosator atque scriptor dramaticus Croaticus fuit.
== Opera ==
* '''''Psovka''''' — liber poeticus (1907) — compositus anno 1905
Latine: '''''[[Maledictio]]'''''
* '''''Ištipana hartija''''' — liber poeticus (1907)
Latine: '''''[[Charta lacerata]]'''''
* '''''Tragedija mozgova''''' — drama (1907)
Latine: ''Tragoedia cerebrorum''
* '''''Na rođenoj grudi''''' — drama (1907)
Latine: ''In nativa gleba''
== Opera posthuma ==
* '''''Ćaskanja''''' — commentarii (1914)
Latine: ''Confabulationes''
* '''''Novele i eseji''''' — fabulae breves et commentationes (1938)
Latine: ''Novellae et commentationes''
* '''''Samostanske drame''''' — dramata (1956–1958)
Latine: ''Dramata claustralia''
* '''''Čovječanstvo''''' — drama (1956–1958)
Latine: ''Humanitas''
* '''''Mamino srce''''' — drama (1956–1958)
Latine: ''Cor matris''
* '''''Isušena kaljuža''''' — romanus (1957) — scripta annis 1906–1909
Latine: ''Calyx exsiccatus''
== Fontes ==
* Polić Kamov, Janko. ''Hrvatska enciklopedija'', editio digitalis.
Leksikografski zavod Miroslav Krleža, 2013–2026.
Adiit die 2 mensis Iulii 2026.
<https://www.enciklopedija.hr/clanak/polic-kamov-janko>.
== Adiecta ==
=== Imago ===
[[File:Kamovphoto.jpg|thumb|center|alt=Janko Polić Kamov|Imago J. P. Kamov ex Wikimedia Commons.]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Scriptor-K|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Saeculi vicesimi scriptores|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores Croatiae|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Poetae|Kamov]]
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[[Fasciculus:Janko_polic_kamov.jpg|thumb|right|Janko Polić Kamov]]
[[la:Janko Polić Kamov|Janko Polić Kamov]]
(1886–1910)
poeta, prosator atque scriptor dramaticus Croaticus fuit.
== Opera ==
* '''''Psovka''''' — liber poeticus (1907) — compositus anno 1905
Latine: '''''[[Maledictio]]'''''
* '''''Ištipana hartija''''' — liber poeticus (1907)
Latine: '''''[[Charta lacerata]]'''''
* '''''Tragedija mozgova''''' — drama (1907)
Latine: ''Tragoedia cerebrorum''
* '''''Na rođenoj grudi''''' — drama (1907)
Latine: ''In nativa gleba''
== Opera posthuma ==
* '''''Ćaskanja''''' — commentarii (1914)
Latine: ''Confabulationes''
* '''''Novele i eseji''''' — fabulae breves et commentationes (1938)
Latine: ''Novellae et commentationes''
* '''''Samostanske drame''''' — dramata (1956–1958)
Latine: ''Dramata claustralia''
* '''''Čovječanstvo''''' — drama (1956–1958)
Latine: ''Humanitas''
* '''''Mamino srce''''' — drama (1956–1958)
Latine: ''Cor matris''
* '''''Isušena kaljuža''''' — romanus (1957) — scripta annis 1906–1909
Latine: ''Calyx exsiccatus''
== Fontes ==
* Polić Kamov, Janko. ''Hrvatska enciklopedija'', editio digitalis.
Leksikografski zavod Miroslav Krleža, 2013–2026.
Adiit die 2 mensis Iulii 2026.
<https://www.enciklopedija.hr/clanak/polic-kamov-janko>.
== Adiecta ==
=== Imago ===
[[File:Kamovphoto.jpg|thumb|center|alt=Janko Polić Kamov|Imago J. P. Kamov ex Wikimedia Commons.]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Scriptor-K|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Saeculi vicesimi scriptores|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores Croatiae|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Poetae|Kamov]]
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[[Fasciculus:Janko_polic_kamov.jpg|thumb|right|Janko Polić Kamov]]
[[w:la:Janko Polić Kamov|Janko Polić Kamov]]
(1886–1910)
poeta, prosator atque scriptor dramaticus Croaticus fuit.
== Opera ==
* '''''Psovka''''' — liber poeticus (1907) — compositus anno 1905
Latine: '''''[[Maledictio]]'''''
* '''''Ištipana hartija''''' — liber poeticus (1907)
Latine: '''''[[Charta lacerata]]'''''
* '''''Tragedija mozgova''''' — drama (1907)
Latine: ''Tragoedia cerebrorum''
* '''''Na rođenoj grudi''''' — drama (1907)
Latine: ''In nativa gleba''
== Opera posthuma ==
* '''''Ćaskanja''''' — commentarii (1914)
Latine: ''Confabulationes''
* '''''Novele i eseji''''' — fabulae breves et commentationes (1938)
Latine: ''Novellae et commentationes''
* '''''Samostanske drame''''' — dramata (1956–1958)
Latine: ''Dramata claustralia''
* '''''Čovječanstvo''''' — drama (1956–1958)
Latine: ''Humanitas''
* '''''Mamino srce''''' — drama (1956–1958)
Latine: ''Cor matris''
* '''''Isušena kaljuža''''' — romanus (1957) — scripta annis 1906–1909
Latine: ''Calyx exsiccatus''
== Fontes ==
* Polić Kamov, Janko. ''Hrvatska enciklopedija'', editio digitalis.
Leksikografski zavod Miroslav Krleža, 2013–2026.
Adiit die 2 mensis Iulii 2026.
<https://www.enciklopedija.hr/clanak/polic-kamov-janko>.
== Adiecta ==
=== Imago ===
[[File:Kamovphoto.jpg|thumb|center|alt=Janko Polić Kamov|Imago J. P. Kamov ex Wikimedia Commons.]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Scriptor-K|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Saeculi vicesimi scriptores|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Scriptores Croatiae|Kamov]]
[[Categoria:Poetae|Kamov]]
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agnovit formam illius, divinum quid ſpirantem, & vultum & vocem, & ad hæc obſtupeſcens, certuſque jam ipſiſſimum eſſe ſanctum Stephanum, Deo gloriam retulit, qui Senis benedictione dignari ſe voluiſſet.
| {{right sidenote|'''D'''}}
{{graeca|ἐγνώρισε τὴν θεοειδῆ αὐτοῦ μορφὴν καὶ εἰδέαν , / καὶ τὴν φωνὴν , καὶ πεθαυμακὼς? ἐπὶ τούτοις , καὶ / πληροφορηθεὶς εἶναι αὐτὸν τὸν ὅσιον Στέφανον , / ἐπὶ τούτῳ τῷ Θεῷ δόξαν ἀνέπεμψεν τῷ καταξι‑ / ώσαντι αὐτὸν τοῦ Γέροντος τυχεῖν εὐλογίας .}}
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== ANNOTATA D. P. ==
{{left sidenote|'''a'''}} ''Hinc diſcimus, quænam illa oratio ſit; monachis in acceſſu receſſuque uſitata: cujus toties hic & alibi mentio.''
{{left sidenote|'''b'''}} ''Fuit hoc monaſterium ipſi Lauræ S. Sabæ proximum, & ſub peculiaris Præpoſiti cura, ipſius Lauræ Hegumeno, ut videtur, ſubjectum, à S. Saba ædificatum poſt Patriarchæ Martyrii obitum, id eſt poſt annum 485. Cujus Vita apud Cotelerium num. 27 hæc habet: Acceſſit Sabas in Caſtelli ſeu Caſtellii collem; qui à Laura viginti circiter ſtadiis diſtat ad partem Septemtrionalem, quæ eſt verſus Orientem. Et num. 28: At pater noſter Sabas Caſtelli{{left sidenote|'''B'''}}{{rigth sidenote|'''E'''}} cœnobio conſtituto, omne ſtudium in eo adhibuit, ut inibi viros ætate provectos ac in monaſtica vita excellentes infereret; cumque ſeculares quoſdam, qui mundo renuntiare vellent, admittebat; neque in Caſtellio, neque in Laura in cellulis eos habitare permittebat, ſed parvo cœnobio ad Septemtrionalem Lauræ partem conſtructo: collocatuſque in eo viris gravibus & prudentibus, illic eos, qui renuntiabant, manere juſſit.... quod ſemper diceret, monachum celliotam ſeu in cella reſidentem, debere eſſe diſcernendi vi præditum.... aptum ad docendum, non indigentem doctrinâ. Et ita quidem ſe res habuit in prima inſtitutione: nunc verò parvi illius cœnobii pridem forte collapſi ruju ceſſante, juniores in Caſtellio exercebantur, uti hinc apparet: donec annorum aliquot experimento probati, idonei ad ſolitariam in Laura vitam invenirentur.''
{{left sidenote|'''c'''}} ''De hoc Beda lib. 2 de Locis ſanctis cap. 13 in extremâ fluminis parte quadrata eccleſia quatuor lapideis cameris (columnis ait Hodœporicon S. Willibaldi) ſuperpoſita eſt coctili creta deſuper tecta; ubi veſtimenta Domini, cum baptizarétur, ſervata eſſe dicuntur. Hodœporicon: Ubi Dominus baptizatus eſt. Sed hæc non eſſe ita ſtrictè accipienda, certum eſt; cum Chriſtus fuerit trans Jordanem baptizatus: ad cumque locum iſte Beda dicat de monaſterio eccleſiaque S. Joannis Baptiſtæ, per pontem arcubus ſuſtultum deſcendi orationis cauſâ: ſtat enim in illo loco crux lignea, quæ aliquoties aqua aſcendente abſconditur, ab eoque ulterior ripa jactu fundæ eſt. Non diſplicet tamen conjectura Quareſmii, indicantis cum in ipſa aqua eccleſia ædificari non poſſet, citeriorem potius quam ulteriorem ripam electam eſſe, quod in illam egreſſus poſt baptiſmum Chriſtus ſit, ibique vox Patris facta &c.; quippe qui ſtatim à baptiſmate ductus ſit à ſpiritu in deſertum, quod erat cis, non autem trans Jordanem.''
{{left sidenote|'''d'''}} ''Hujus Officii meminit præter alios Theodorus Balſamon, ſcribens in can. II Synodi IV, atque inter eos, qui in Eccleſia promoveri dicuntur, quatenus promotio ab ordinatione charactere rem conferre diſtinguitur, poſt œconomos & chartularios, paramonarios nominat; quibus in Eccleſia Latina reſpondet manſionariorum officium; adſitos magis Latinè diceremus. Sic verò dicti in utraque lingua {{graeca|ἀπὸ τν παραμονῶν}}, manſione in eccleſia ad ejus cuſtodiam, & miniſterium eorum, qui oraturi vel ſacrificaturi adveniunt, ceteraque curanda, quæ ad ædituum pertinent. Ita Joannes Diaconus lib. 3 Vita S. Gregorii{{left sidenote|'''C'''}} {{right sidenote|'''F'''}}: Completis matutinalibus hymnis manſionarius candelam extinxit: ipſeque Gregorius in libris Dialogorum, duorum inſignium manſionariorum meminit, Conſtantii & S. Abundii, cujus poſtremi feſtum 13 Maii recolitur. Eſt ergo paramonarius ſeu manſionarius ſacerdos eccleſiæ cuſtos; quod etiam ex ſubſequenti numero patet.''
== CAPUT VIII. ==
''Monachum fornicarium corrigit; ſanctimoniali periclitanti ſuccurrit.''
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agnovit formam illius, divinum quid ſpirantem, & vultum & vocem, & ad hæc obſtupeſcens, certuſque jam ipſiſſimum eſſe ſanctum Stephanum, Deo gloriam retulit, qui Senis benedictione dignari ſe voluiſſet.
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== ANNOTATA D. P. ==
{{left sidenote|'''a'''}} ''Hinc diſcimus, quænam illa oratio ſit; monachis in acceſſu receſſuque uſitata: cujus toties hic & alibi mentio.''
{{left sidenote|'''b'''}} ''Fuit hoc monaſterium ipſi Lauræ S. Sabæ proximum, & ſub peculiaris Præpoſiti cura, ipſius Lauræ Hegumeno, ut videtur, ſubjectum, à S. Saba ædificatum poſt Patriarchæ Martyrii obitum, id eſt poſt annum 485. Cujus Vita apud Cotelerium num. 27 hæc habet: Acceſſit Sabas in Caſtelli ſeu Caſtellii collem; qui à Laura viginti circiter ſtadiis diſtat ad partem Septemtrionalem, quæ eſt verſus Orientem. Et num. 28: At pater noſter Sabas Caſtelli{{left sidenote|'''B'''}}{{right sidenote|'''E'''}} cœnobio conſtituto, omne ſtudium in eo adhibuit, ut inibi viros ætate provectos ac in monaſtica vita excellentes infereret; cumque ſeculares quoſdam, qui mundo renuntiare vellent, admittebat; neque in Caſtellio, neque in Laura in cellulis eos habitare permittebat, ſed parvo cœnobio ad Septemtrionalem Lauræ partem conſtructo: collocatuſque in eo viris gravibus & prudentibus, illic eos, qui renuntiabant, manere juſſit.... quod ſemper diceret, monachum celliotam ſeu in cella reſidentem, debere eſſe diſcernendi vi præditum.... aptum ad docendum, non indigentem doctrinâ. Et ita quidem ſe res habuit in prima inſtitutione: nunc verò parvi illius cœnobii pridem forte collapſi ruju ceſſante, juniores in Caſtellio exercebantur, uti hinc apparet: donec annorum aliquot experimento probati, idonei ad ſolitariam in Laura vitam invenirentur.''
{{left sidenote|'''c'''}} ''De hoc Beda lib. 2 de Locis ſanctis cap. 13 in extremâ fluminis parte quadrata eccleſia quatuor lapideis cameris (columnis ait Hodœporicon S. Willibaldi) ſuperpoſita eſt coctili creta deſuper tecta; ubi veſtimenta Domini, cum baptizarétur, ſervata eſſe dicuntur. Hodœporicon: Ubi Dominus baptizatus eſt. Sed hæc non eſſe ita ſtrictè accipienda, certum eſt; cum Chriſtus fuerit trans Jordanem baptizatus: ad cumque locum iſte Beda dicat de monaſterio eccleſiaque S. Joannis Baptiſtæ, per pontem arcubus ſuſtultum deſcendi orationis cauſâ: ſtat enim in illo loco crux lignea, quæ aliquoties aqua aſcendente abſconditur, ab eoque ulterior ripa jactu fundæ eſt. Non diſplicet tamen conjectura Quareſmii, indicantis cum in ipſa aqua eccleſia ædificari non poſſet, citeriorem potius quam ulteriorem ripam electam eſſe, quod in illam egreſſus poſt baptiſmum Chriſtus ſit, ibique vox Patris facta &c.; quippe qui ſtatim à baptiſmate ductus ſit à ſpiritu in deſertum, quod erat cis, non autem trans Jordanem.''
{{left sidenote|'''d'''}} ''Hujus Officii meminit præter alios Theodorus Balſamon, ſcribens in can. II Synodi IV, atque inter eos, qui in Eccleſia promoveri dicuntur, quatenus promotio ab ordinatione charactere rem conferre diſtinguitur, poſt œconomos & chartularios, paramonarios nominat; quibus in Eccleſia Latina reſpondet manſionariorum officium; adſitos magis Latinè diceremus. Sic verò dicti in utraque lingua {{graeca|ἀπὸ τν παραμονῶν}}, manſione in eccleſia ad ejus cuſtodiam, & miniſterium eorum, qui oraturi vel ſacrificaturi adveniunt, ceteraque curanda, quæ ad ædituum pertinent. Ita Joannes Diaconus lib. 3 Vita S. Gregorii{{left sidenote|'''C'''}} {{right sidenote|'''F'''}}: Completis matutinalibus hymnis manſionarius candelam extinxit: ipſeque Gregorius in libris Dialogorum, duorum inſignium manſionariorum meminit, Conſtantii & S. Abundii, cujus poſtremi feſtum 13 Maii recolitur. Eſt ergo paramonarius ſeu manſionarius ſacerdos eccleſiæ cuſtos; quod etiam ex ſubſequenti numero patet.''
== CAPUT VIII. ==
''Monachum fornicarium corrigit; ſanctimoniali periclitanti ſuccurrit.''
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'''A'''Lius quidam frater non vulgare mihi prodigium, ab hoc mirabili Sene in ſe patratum, ad hunc modum loquens communicavit; Frater in ſpiritu dilecte, eſt quod narrare tibi velim; quodque & me rubore perfundat, & non parum faciat ad virtutem ſtupendi maximè Stephani illuſtrandam. Cum die quadam eſſem, in pago ſimul unà cum aliqua convicaria, jaculum me ſatanicum percuſſit infano amore, & cogitationibus impudicis. Ibi ego enervis atque iners terga dedi, atque à dæ-
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agnovit formam illius, divinum quid ſpirantem, & vultum & vocem, & ad hæc obſtupeſcens, certuſque jam ipſiſſimum eſſe ſanctum Stephanum, Deo gloriam retulit, qui Senis benedictione dignari ſe voluiſſet.
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== ANNOTATA D. P. ==
{{left sidenote|'''a'''}} ''Hinc diſcimus, quænam illa oratio ſit; monachis in acceſſu receſſuque uſitata: cujus toties hic & alibi mentio.''
{{left sidenote|'''b'''}} ''Fuit hoc monaſterium ipſi Lauræ S. Sabæ proximum, & ſub peculiaris Præpoſiti cura, ipſius Lauræ Hegumeno, ut videtur, ſubjectum, à S. Saba ædificatum poſt Patriarchæ Martyrii obitum, id eſt poſt annum 485. Cujus Vita apud Cotelerium num. 27 hæc habet: Acceſſit Sabas in Caſtelli ſeu Caſtellii collem; qui à Laura viginti circiter ſtadiis diſtat ad partem Septemtrionalem, quæ eſt verſus Orientem. Et num. 28: At pater noſter Sabas Caſtelli{{left sidenote|'''B'''}}{{right sidenote|'''E'''}} cœnobio conſtituto, omne ſtudium in eo adhibuit, ut inibi viros ætate provectos ac in monaſtica vita excellentes infereret; cumque ſeculares quoſdam, qui mundo renuntiare vellent, admittebat; neque in Caſtellio, neque in Laura in cellulis eos habitare permittebat, ſed parvo cœnobio ad Septemtrionalem Lauræ partem conſtructo: collocatuſque in eo viris gravibus & prudentibus, illic eos, qui renuntiabant, manere juſſit.... quod ſemper diceret, monachum celliotam ſeu in cella reſidentem, debere eſſe diſcernendi vi præditum.... aptum ad docendum, non indigentem doctrinâ. Et ita quidem ſe res habuit in prima inſtitutione: nunc verò parvi illius cœnobii pridem forte collapſi ruju ceſſante, juniores in Caſtellio exercebantur, uti hinc apparet: donec annorum aliquot experimento probati, idonei ad ſolitariam in Laura vitam invenirentur.''
{{left sidenote|'''c'''}} ''De hoc Beda lib. 2 de Locis ſanctis cap. 13 in extremâ fluminis parte quadrata eccleſia quatuor lapideis cameris (columnis ait Hodœporicon S. Willibaldi) ſuperpoſita eſt coctili creta deſuper tecta; ubi veſtimenta Domini, cum baptizarétur, ſervata eſſe dicuntur. Hodœporicon: Ubi Dominus baptizatus eſt. Sed hæc non eſſe ita ſtrictè accipienda, certum eſt; cum Chriſtus fuerit trans Jordanem baptizatus: ad cumque locum iſte Beda dicat de monaſterio eccleſiaque S. Joannis Baptiſtæ, per pontem arcubus ſuſtultum deſcendi orationis cauſâ: ſtat enim in illo loco crux lignea, quæ aliquoties aqua aſcendente abſconditur, ab eoque ulterior ripa jactu fundæ eſt. Non diſplicet tamen conjectura Quareſmii, indicantis cum in ipſa aqua eccleſia ædificari non poſſet, citeriorem potius quam ulteriorem ripam electam eſſe, quod in illam egreſſus poſt baptiſmum Chriſtus ſit, ibique vox Patris facta &c.; quippe qui ſtatim à baptiſmate ductus ſit à ſpiritu in deſertum, quod erat cis, non autem trans Jordanem.''
{{left sidenote|'''d'''}} ''Hujus Officii meminit præter alios Theodorus Balſamon, ſcribens in can. II Synodi IV, atque inter eos, qui in Eccleſia promoveri dicuntur, quatenus promotio ab ordinatione charactere rem conferre diſtinguitur, poſt œconomos & chartularios, paramonarios nominat; quibus in Eccleſia Latina reſpondet manſionariorum officium; adſitos magis Latinè diceremus. Sic verò dicti in utraque lingua {{graeca|ἀπὸ τν παραμονῶν}}, manſione in eccleſia ad ejus cuſtodiam, & miniſterium eorum, qui oraturi vel ſacrificaturi adveniunt, ceteraque curanda, quæ ad ædituum pertinent. Ita Joannes Diaconus lib. 3 Vita S. Gregorii{{left sidenote|'''C'''}} {{right sidenote|'''F'''}}: Completis matutinalibus hymnis manſionarius candelam extinxit: ipſeque Gregorius in libris Dialogorum, duorum inſignium manſionariorum meminit, Conſtantii & S. Abundii, cujus poſtremi feſtum 13 Maii recolitur. Eſt ergo paramonarius ſeu manſionarius ſacerdos eccleſiæ cuſtos; quod etiam ex ſubſequenti numero patet.''
== CAPUT VIII. ==
''Monachum fornicarium corrigit; ſanctimoniali periclitanti ſuccurrit.''
{|
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'''A'''Lius quidam frater non vulgare mihi prodigium, ab hoc mirabili Sene in ſe patratum, ad hunc modum loquens communicavit; Frater in ſpiritu dilecte, eſt quod narrare tibi velim; quodque & me rubore perfundat, & non parum faciat ad virtutem ſtupendi maximè Stephani illuſtrandam. Cum die quadam eſſem, in pago ſimul unà cum aliqua convicaria, jaculum me ſatanicum percuſſit infano amore, & cogitationibus impudicis. Ibi ego enervis atque iners terga dedi, atque à dæ-
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agnovit formam illius, divinum quid ſpirantem, & vultum & vocem, & ad hæc obſtupeſcens, certuſque jam ipſiſſimum eſſe ſanctum Stephanum, Deo gloriam retulit, qui Senis benedictione dignari ſe voluiſſet.
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== ANNOTATA D. P. ==
{{left sidenote|'''a'''}} ''Hinc diſcimus, quænam illa oratio ſit; monachis in acceſſu receſſuque uſitata: cujus toties hic & alibi mentio.''
{{left sidenote|'''b'''}} ''Fuit hoc monaſterium ipſi Lauræ S. Sabæ proximum, & ſub peculiaris Præpoſiti cura, ipſius Lauræ Hegumeno, ut videtur, ſubjectum, à S. Saba ædificatum poſt Patriarchæ Martyrii obitum, id eſt poſt annum 485. Cujus Vita apud Cotelerium num. 27 hæc habet: Acceſſit Sabas in Caſtelli ſeu Caſtellii collem; qui à Laura viginti circiter ſtadiis diſtat ad partem Septemtrionalem, quæ eſt verſus Orientem. Et num. 28: At pater noſter Sabas Caſtellii cœnobio conſtituto, omne ſtudium in eo adhibuit, ut inibi viros ætate provectos ac in monaſtica vita excellentes inſereret; cumque ſeculares quoſdam, qui mundo renuntiare vellent, admittebat; neque in Caſtellio, neque in Laura in cellulis eos habitare permittebat, {{left sidenote|'''B'''}}{{right sidenote|'''E'''}}ſed parvo cœnobio ad Septemtrionalem Lauræ partem conſtructo: collocatiſque in eo viris gravibus & prudentibus, illic eos, qui renuntiabant, manere juſſit.... quod ſemper diceret, monachum celliotam ſeu in cella reſidentem, debere eſſe diſcernendi vi præditum.... aptum ad docendum, non indigentem doctrinâ. Et ita quidem ſe res habuit in prima inſtitutione: nunc verò parvi illius cœnobii pridem forte collapſi uſu ceſſante, juniores in Caſtellio exercebantur, uti hinc apparet: donec annorum aliquot experimento probati, idonei ad ſolitariam in Laura vitam invenirentur.''
{{left sidenote|'''c'''}} ''De hoc Beda lib. 2 de Locis ſanctis cap. 13 in extremâ fluminis parte quadrata eccleſia quatuor lapideis cameris (columnis ait Hodœporicon S. Willibaldi) ſuperpoſita eſt coctili creta deſuper tecta; ubi veſtimenta Domini, cum baptizaretur, ſervata eſſe dicuntur. Hodœporicon: Ubi Dominus baptizatus eſt. Sed hæc non eſſe ita ſtrictè accipienda, certum eſt; cum Chriſtus fuerit trans Jordanem baptizatus: ad eumque locum ipſe Beda dicat de monaſterio eccleſiaque S. Joannis Baptistæ, per pontem arcubus ſuffultum deſcendi orationis causâ: ſtat enim in illo loco crux lignea, quæ aliquoties aqua aſcendente abſconditur, ab eoque ulterior ripa jactu fundæ eſt. Non diſplicet tamen conjectura Quareſmii, indicantis cum in ipſa aqua eccleſia ædificari non poſſet, citeriorem potius quam ulteriorem ripam electam eſſe, quod in illam egreſſus poſt baptiſmum Chriſtus ſit, ibique vox Patris facta &c.; quippe qui ſtatim à baptiſmate ductus ſit à ſpiritu in deſertum, quod erat cis, non autem trans Jordanem.''
{{left sidenote|'''d'''}} ''Hujus Officii meminit præter alios Theodorus Balſamon, ſcribens in can. II Synodi IV, atque inter eos, qui in Eccleſia promoveri dicuntur, quatenus promotio ab ordinatione characterem conferente diſtinguitur, poſt œconomos & chartularios, paramonarios nominat; quibus in Eccleſia Latina reſpondet manſionariorum officium; ædituos magis Latinè diceremus. {{left sidenote|'''C'''}}{{right sidenote|'''F'''}}Sic verò dicti in utraque lingua {{graeca|ἀπὸ τῆς παραμονῆς}}, manſione in eccleſia ad ejus cuſtodiam, & miniſterium eorum, qui oraturi vel ſacrificaturi adveniunt, ceteraque curanda, quæ ad ædituum pertinent. Ita Joannes Diaconus lib. 3 Vita S. Gregorii: Completis matutinalibus hymnis manſionarius candelam extinxit: ipſeque Gregorius in libris Dialogorum, duorum inſignium manſionariorum meminit, Conſtantii & S. Abundii, cujus poſtremi feſtum 13 Maii recolitur. Eſt ergo paramonarius ſeu manſionarius ſacerdos eccleſiæ cuſtos; quod etiam ex ſubſequenti numero patet.''
== CAPUT VIII. ==
''Monachum fornicarium corrigit; ſanctimoniali periclitanti ſuccurrit.''
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'''A'''Lius quidam frater non vulgare mihi prodigium, ab hoc mirabili Sene in ſe patratum, ad hunc modum loquens communicavit; Frater in ſpiritu dilecte, eſt quod narrare tibi velim; quodque & me rubore perfundat, & non parum faciat ad virtutem ſtupendi maximè Stephani illuſtrandam. Cum die quadam eſſem, in pago ſimul unà cum aliqua convicaria, jaculum me ſatanicum percuſſit infano amore, & cogitationibus impudicis. Ibi ego enervis atque iners terga dedi, atque à dæ-
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{{graeca|[87] … δαίμονος ἡττηθεὶς ὡσεὶ φλογεροῖς τρωθεὶς πτε‑ / ρόεσιν οἰστοῖς περιπέπλωκα? τῇ γυναικὶ , πᾶν / ἀνθρώπινον ὄμμα λεληθὼς , καὶ τὸ θεῖον κατα‑ / τετολμηκὼς ἀκοιμήτῳ ὀφθαλμῷ , καὶ τὸ διορατι‑ / κὸν τὸ χαριτοπνεύστου Στεφάνου βλέμμα λαθεῖν / ἠλπικὼς , τὴν ἐμὴν ἀσχημοσύνην ὁ φρων ἐγὼ / καλύψας βαθείᾳ νυκτὶ καὶ κρυφίοις οἴκων μυ‑ / χοῖς · ἀλλ᾽ ὅλως εἰ καὶ τοὺς πάντας ἔλαθον , / ἀλλ᾽ αὐτὸς τῷ πνεύματι ἰδὼν , οὐκ ἠγνόησε · / τὸ μέγα? δὲ καὶ αἰσχρὸν? ἁμάρτημα πεποι‑ / ηκὼς , πρὸς τοτον τὸν ὅσιον Στέφανον πεπόρευ‑ / μαι , ἐν τοῖς ὡσεὶ τὴν ἡμετέραν χώραν τότε / διατρίβοντα μέρεσι · συχνoτέρως δὲ ἐσχόλαζον / αὐτῷ ἐκεῖσε · ἐπειδὴ ζωήθης? αὐτῷ ἤδη ἐκ / πάλαι τῶν χρόνων ὑπρχον φίλος γνήσι‑ / ος , ταῖς πυκνοτέραις αὐτοῦ νουθετούμενος / πνευματικαῖς διδασκαλίαις , ὧν ἐν ἐμαυτῷ τὸν / κάρπον οὐκ ἐβλάστησα ὁ ἁμαρτωλὸς καὶ πανάθλι‑ / ος · ἀλλὰ τὸ ἀθέμιτον πράξας ἁμάρτημα , ἀν‑ / ερυθριάσας πρὸς ατὸν παρεγενόμην? , νομίζων / ὑποκλέψαι τὴν ἐμὴν βεβηλότητα .}}
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{{graeca|88 Ἀλλὰ τῆς ἐλπίδος ἐξέπεσον · ἤλεγξε γάρ / με τῶν νοερῶν αὐτοῦ ὀφθαλμῶν ὁ ἀψευδέστατος / ἔλεγχος . Φεῦ τς ἐμς τότε πικρᾶς αἰσχύνης ! / ἡνίκα δὲ τοῦτον τὸν θεοφόρον Στέφανον , ὡς ἔθος , / ἠσπασάμην , καὶ λαβεῖν παρ᾽ αὐτοῦ διχὰς? ἠτη‑ / σάμην , ἀθέως τοῖς ζωοσόφοις καὶ φωτοβλήτοις / αὐτοῦ λόγοις φωταγωγεῖν με προκατήρξατο? / λέγων · Οὐαὶ τοῖς ἀμελεστέροις ὅσοι περὶ τὴν ἑαυ‑ / τῶν σωτηρίαν ! καὶ τοῖς μὴ τηροῦσι τὰς θείας / ἐντολάς · καὶ τοῖς μὴ προσέχουσι ταῖς ἐκκλησια‑ / στικαῖς νουθεσίαις · καὶ τοῖς μὴ ἔχουσι πρὸ ὀ‑ / φθαλμῶν τὴν ἀποκειμένην τοῖς ἁμαρτάνουσιν ἀ‑ / σβεστον γέενναν ! Πολλάκις γάρ σε νενουθέτηκα , τέ‑ / κνον , καὶ κεκώλυκα τὸ προσκολλᾶσθαι κακοῖς ; εἶ‑ / δον γὰρ , ὅτι φθείρουσιν ἤθη χρηστὰ ὁμιλίαι κακαί . / Σὺ δὲ τὰς ἐμὰς παραινέσεις ἀκάρπως πεποίηκας . / Οὕτως ἔχρῆν? σε διαπράξασθαι σήμερον , ἢ βεβη‑ / λῶσαι τὴν ψυχήν , καὶ τὸ σῶμα , καὶ τοῦτο τὸ ἱερώ‑ / τατον σχῆμα ; Τῶν ὁμοίων σου ὑπάρχει τοῦτο / τὸ αἰσχρότατον πάθος ;}}
{{graeca|89 Τοιούτοις ὧν αὐτὸς μακρόθεν σεμνῶς πα‑ / ραινετικοῖς ἐλέγξαντός με ῥήμασιν , ἐνόμιζα / ζωήθως αὐτὸν παρεκινεῖσθαι? , τὴν ἡμετέραν δὲ? / ἀγνοοῦντα πλημμέλειαν , καὶ εἶπον πρὸς αὐτόν · / Ποῖον , πάτερ , πάθος ἤνιξα? ; Ὁ δὲ · Τὸ πορνικόν, {{left sidenote|'''C'''}}
ἔφη · Κἀγὼ μὲν ἀναιδῶς ἀπαρνούμην · Μὴ / εἴπω? , μήποτε πεπραχέναι , ἔφην · οὐ πεπόρ‑ / νευκα , πάτερ . Αὐτὸς δὲ πράως εἶπε πρὸς / με · Τί ἐρεῖς , τέκνον ; οὐ πεπόρνευκας σύ , / καὶ δεῖνα , σήμερον , ἐκείνῃ τῇ ὥρᾳ , ἐν τῷ‑ / ὧδε τόπῳ , μεταξὺ τῶνδε καὶ τνδε πραγ‑ / μάτων ; Ἐρημένος? ὧν ἀπαραλλάκτως ἅπαντα / τὰ σημεῖα τῆς ἐμῆς ἀσχημοσύνης , ἔμφοβος / γενόμενος , αἰδοῖ κατεσχέθην? λαμασιτῇ? , μη‑ / δὲν ἀντειπεῖν ἐξισχυκὼς? , ἀλλὰ κατὰ τῆς γῆς / τὴν κάραν κεκυφὼς , ἀνίας ἀφωνίαν ἐμ‑ / ποιήσας , πυρσῷ κατεζησάμην? .}}
{{graeca|90 Ἑωρακὼς δὲ με ὁ συμπαθὴς πατὴρ ὅ‑ / τω λυπηρῶς ἐπὶ πολὺ διακείμενον , τοιούτοις / παρηγορῶν με λόγοις , ἔφη · Μὴ λυποῦ , ἀδελ‑ / φέ · κἀγὼ γὰρ ἄνθρωπός εἰμι ὁμοιοπαθής , τῆς / ἴσης τέλων*{{left sidenote|''* Ἀπ' Ἰσραήλ?''}} φύσεως · μόνον μὴ ἀπογνῶς · οὐδένα / γὰρ ὁ Θεὸς ἀπώθησε? μετανοοῦντα · ἀλλὰ φι‑ / λανθρώπως ἀποδέχεται πάντας · καὶ πειθέσθω / σε ὡσεὶ τοῦτο? ἢ τῷ πατρικῷ? περι‑ / βόλαιον? μὴ πορνῶν διεσπαρακότι? ἀσώτου παρα‑ / βολῇ , ἢ ὡς? ὁ τελώνης? · ὃ δὲ? ἀπώσατο πόρνην? …}}
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mone fornicario proſtratus, & flammeis pernicibuſque trajectus telis, mulieri me vicium dedidi, mortalem omnium conſpectum latens; nec vigilem Dei reveritus oculum, & afflati divinâ gratiâ Stephani conſcios arcanorum obtutus ludere me poſſe confiſus, profunda nocte reconditiſque ædium receſſibus, turpitudinem demens abſtruſti meam: ſed enim quamquam re verà ceteris eſſem incognitus, illum tamen, jam ſpiritu me meaque conuitum, celari non potui: poſt admiſſum enim grande atque infame pecculum, adii ſanctum hunc Stephanum, qui tum in partibus regioni noſtræ vicinis agebat; nam crebris ejus iſtic colloquiis vacabam; ut qui arcta ejus amicitia jam olim uſus eſſem familiariter; inſtitutionibus illius ſpiritualibus per frequenter informatus, quarum ego improbus atque infeliciſſimus, fructus in me nullos protuli: ſed potquam ſceleratum facinus patraſſem, acceſſi cum abſque ullo rubore, impuritatem meam ratus eſſe ſatis obtectam.
88 {{right sidenote|''occultum peccatum cognoſcens,''}} Sed ſpes mea me fefellit: arguit enim me conſciorum oculorum evidentiſſima accuſatio. Heu qualem tum quantumque pudorem meum! {{right sidenote|'''E'''}} Nam cum deiſſerum hunc Stephanum, pro more, ſalutaſſem, petiiſſemque ut bene mihi precaretur, ſermonibus illico vitam ſimul lucemque affundentibus, colluſtrare me cœpit, ac dicere: Væ illis qui omnem ſalutis curam abjiciunt! Væ! qui mandata divina non ſervant! Væ qui eccleſiaſtica floccipendunt conſilia! Væ qui reſervatam peccantibus gehennam inextinctam ante oculos non habent! Quoties enim te admonebam, fili, cavebamque ne te perverſis adjungeres? Noveram etenim pravis colloquiis corrumpi mores bonos. Tu interim id effeciſti, ut fruſtra fuerint exhortationes meæ. Itane agere te decuit hodie; itane & animam, & corpus & habitum hunc ſanctiſſimum contaminare? Fierine poteſt ut in tui ſimiles cadat fœdiſſima hæc libido?
89 {{right sidenote|'''F'''}} Dum ejusmodi monitis prolixè ac placidè me redargueret, adhortari ipſum exiſtimabam, ut conſueverat; ceterum de ſcelere meo nihil reſcivit; quærebamque adeo ex illo: {{right sidenote|''paternè rédarguit;''}} Quæ eſt iſta libido, pater, quam innuis? Ille: Meretricia eſt, inquit. Tum ego inverecundè id inficiatus: Abſit, aiebam, ut hoc fecerim: ſcortatus non ſum, pater. Sed ille ſedato animo: Quid ais, inquit, fili? Scortatus non es tu, & illa, hoc die, tali hora, tali loco, inter illa atque illa opera? Cumque ſingulos perſequeretur apices imprudentiæ meæ, timidior jam factus, præ pudore vix eram apud me, cum nihil poſſem reponere; quin demiſſo capite terram obtuens, intercludente vocem triſtitia, à turpi flamma repreſſus ſum.
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delictorum venià, quam poſcebat, Mulierem peccatricem; Publicanum verò adeo non eſt averſatus, ut Euangelii præconem eſſe voluerit; uti & perſecutorem fecit Apoſtolum, & plures alios ex veteri ac novo Teſtamento adducere poſſim tibi, qui in ejusmodi vitâ prolapſi amiſſam vitam ſalutemque per pœnitentiam divinitus recuperarunt, ſi protrahere libeat ſermonem. Sed hæc tibi, fili, ſint ſatis: neque enim animus mihi fuit ullo modo increpare te, ne te abſterream, aut quidquam faciam quo à congreſſu meo fias alienus. Sed videbam te haudquaquam velle intelligere, cum ſpiritualibus emplastrorum minimè aſtringentium acervorumve incantationibus, intricatiſque, ut ita dicam, faſciniis ulceri tuo mederi conabar: vehementi itaque commiſeratione tactus non potui morbi cauſam non aperire; ut remedium congruum afferamus: nam neque qui corporis curant ægritudines, prius inconſideratè præbent antidota laborantibus, quam morbi cauſam ipſi explicuerint: correptis etenim delinquentibus obtunditur vis peccati: non correptis autem, ut gangræna, cui pabulum ſubminiſtres, totum corpus depaſcitur, ita latens peccatum animam æque ac corpus ſuâ peſte contaminat. Ceterum noli animum deſpondere, fili, aut tantopere erubeſcere; ſed à Deo veniam efflagita; non enim in te uno id præſtitit; verum in aliis etiam compluribus.{{right sidenote|'''B'''}}
91 Hæc ubi dixiſſet inſtinctus Dei gratiâ Senex, vireſque ſuſcepiſſet imbecillitati meæ, ab eo diſceſſi non ſine admiratione & arcanæ ſcientiæ, & commiſerationis ejus; tum ab ea fore⊠, quacum peccaveram, penitus me avelli; neque exinde, pudore victus, tam frequenter, ut ante ſolitus eram, inviſere Senem audebam. Sed ille ex improviſo fortè obviam factus mihi: Cur, inquit, diſtitiſti, fili, ab illo ſtudio, quo humilitatis meæ inſtructionibus vacabas ante tam ſedulo? Cumque repoſuiſſem: Nulla re alia impedior, præterquam occupationibus, quæ me undique circumſtant; rogatus ut bene mihi precari vellet atque ignoſcere, reſpondit: Ignoſco ego quidem & bona tibi quæque apprecor; verum quod noſtræ te mediocritati ſubduxeris in cauſa vere fuit illud & illud; quod eò dictum puta, ne cogitationibus ejusmodi prohiberi te à noſtro acceſſu permittas. Mentiri noli; perſpicuum veritatem cum ſcias, eloquere. Miſeriarum igitur mearum cogitationumque probè conſcius, dixi: Ita eſt, ita omnino eſt; rem ipſam elocutus es, ſancte pater; ipſiſſima illa eſt ratio, cur emolumenta priſtina aucupari deſierim. Sed infirmas vires meas, turbidamque mentem Deo commenda, ut inde expellantur, deſinantque offendiculo eſſe apprehenſiones omnes ſaluti adverſantes. Precatione ejus deinde, ac benedictione armatus cœpto itinere perrexi. Quoties verò de noxiis intimiſque animi ſenſus arguerit me Senex ille mirificus, dicendo equidem, dilecte, non ſum: neque enim ante deſtitit, quam ad ſe pertraxiſſet, draconique exitiali ereptum, adduxiſſet ad Deum.{{right sidenote|''& ſæpe aliàs occultas ejusdem cogitationes detegit.''}}
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92 Fuit alius quidam de ſancto monachorum grege presbyter religioſiſſimus, qui hæc mihi totidem penè verbis narravit: Profecti die quadam eramus ego & alius aliquis monachus Syrus, vir & ſenio & ſanctimoniâ venerabilis,{{right sidenote|''Alterius vicinam mortem, & caput ſtellis coronatum videt.''}}
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{{graeca|… τῶν πταισμάτων αἰτεῖσθαι? τὴν ἄφεσιν , ὅτε / τελώνην? εὐαγγελιστὴν? εἶναι παρῃτήσατο? , καὶ / διώκτην ἀπόστολον , καὶ πλείονας ἄν σοι ἐν‑ / τε τῇ παλαιᾷ καὶ τῇ νέᾳ διαθήκῃ τοιού‑ / τοις ἐμπεσόντας πάθεσι , καὶ θεόθεν ἰαθέντας / διὰ τῆς μετανοίας λέξοιμι , εἴγε βουλομένῳ? / ἀλαπύτερον? ποιεῖσθαι λόγον . Ἀλλ᾽ ἱκανούσθω / σοι ταῦτα , τέκνον . Οὐδὲ γὰρ ἐλέγξαί σε / παντελῶς ἠβουλόμην , ἵνα μή σε πύρω? , ἢ / τῆς ἐμῆς ὁμιλίας ἀποφυγεῖν παρασκευάσω . / Ἀλλ᾽ εδών σε μηδαμῶς ζωιέντα? ἐμοὶ? τ σὸν / λκος ἀνευρυπτικῶν? τε καὶ ἀδαμαντίνων? ἐμ‑ / πλάστρων πνευματικαῖς ἐπῳδαῖς καὶ γελοφώδεσι? γοητείαις θεραπεῦσαι? μηχανηθείς? , ἐβιάσθην ἀποκαλύψαι τὸ πάθος τὸ αὔλιον? , ὑπὸ πολλῆς διαπύρου κινηθεὶς συμπαθεί‑ / ας , ἵνα τν? διάκρισιν? ἐμποιήσω? θερα‑ / πείαν . καὶ γὰρ οἱ τῶν σωματικῶν νόσων / ἰατροὶ οὐ πρῶτον ἀθεωρήτως παρέχουσι τὰς / ἀντιδότους? τοῖς κάμνουσι , πρὶν ν ἐξείπωσι? / τῆς νόσου τὸ αἴτιον · ἐλεγχομένων δὲ τῶν ἁ‑ / μαρτανόντων , καταργεῖται τῆς ἁμαρτίας ἡ δύ‑ / ναμις , μὴ ἐλεγχομένων δὲ , ὥσπερ γάγγραι‑ / να νομὴν λαβοῦσα {{right sidenote|'''E'''}} , ὅλον ἀφανίζει τὸ σῶμα · / οὕτως καὶ ἡ ἁμαρτία λαθοῦσα ζωὴ? τῇ / σαρκὶ καὶ τὴν ψυχὴν διαφθείρει . Λοιπὸν μὴ / ἀθύμει , τέκνον , μή τε τοσοῦτον αἰσχύνε , / ἀλλ᾽ αἰτησάμενος παρὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τν συγχώρη‑ / σιν · οὐκ ἐν σοὶ γὰρ μόνῳ τοῦτο πεποίηκε , / ἀλλὰ καὶ ἐν ἄλλοις διαφόροις .}}
{{graeca|91 Ταῦτα δὲ λαλήσαντος τοῦ χαριτοπνεύ‑ / στου Γέροντος , καὶ τὴν ἐμὴν ἐπηρείξαντος ἀ‑ / σθένειαν , ἐπορεύθην , τὴν αὐτοῦ θαυμάζων / διόρασίν τε καὶ συμπάθειαν , καὶ παντάπα‑ / σιν ἐμαυτὸν ἀπέκοψα τῆς ἀδελφῆς ἐκείνης , / μεθ᾽ ἧς τὴν μαρτίαν ἐποίησα , καὶ μετέ‑ / πειτα αἰδοῖ φερόμενος , οὐκ ἠσχύναζον? τῷ / Γέροντι , ὥσπερ εἴωθα . Αὐτὸς δὲ κατὰ συγ‑ / κυρίαν? αἰφνίδιον ἀπαντήσας μοι · Διὰ τί ὁ? / χολάζεις , τέκνον , τῇ ἐμῇ ταπεινώσει , ἔφη ; / Ἐμοὶ δὲ εἰρηκότι · Ὑπ᾽ οὐδενὸς κωλύομαι , / ἀλλ᾽ ὑπὸ τῆς ἀσχολίας , ᾗ? περίκειμαι · ἢ / διχῶς? παρ᾽ ατοῦ λαβεῖν καὶ συγχώρησιν αἰ‑ / τησάμην , ἔφη · Ἐγὼ μὲν συγχωρῶ καὶ ἐ‑ / πεύχομαί σοι · Ὅπερ δέ σε τῆς ἡμετέρας ἐξισᾷ? / μετριότητος , πέφυκε τόδε καὶ τόδε , ὡς ἐκ? / ὑπὸ τῶνδε καὶ τνδε λογισμν κωλύῃ / πρὸς μᾶς ἐληλυθέναι · μὴ ψεύδου {{right sidenote|'''F'''}} , τὰ σα‑ / φῇ ἐπισταμένῳ? φράσαι . Ἐγνωκὼς δὲ τὰ / ἡμέτερα μελεδήματά τε καὶ ἐνθυμήματα , ἔ‑ / φην · Ναὶ , ναὶ ἀληθῶς , πάτερ ἅγιε , / ἔφης · τούτου γὰρ χάριν τῆς ζωῆς ὠφε‑ / λείας ἀπέχομαι? , ἀλλὰ ἀεὶ εὖχου ὑπὲρ τῆς / ἐμῆς ἀσθενείας , καὶ θολερᾶς διανοίας , καὶ / ὅπως ἐκ ποδῶν ἐκβληθῶσιν ἀπ᾽ ἐμοῦ πάν‑ / τες οἱ τς σωτηρίας ἀντίπαλοι λογισμοί . / Τὴν εὐχὴν? δὲ αὐτοῦ καὶ τὴν εὐλογίαν λα‑ / βὼν , εἰχόμην τῆς ὁδο . Καὶ σάκις λέγ‑ / χθην , ἀγαπητὲ , περὶ τν ἐνοικούντων μοι / ἐναντίων λογισμῶν πὸ τούτου τοῦ σημειοφόρου / Γέροντος , ἐξειπεῖν ἀμηχανῶ · ὃ? πρότερον γὰρ / ἐλέγχειν με πέπαυται , ἕως ἄν με πρὸς ἑ‑ / αὐτὸν καθέλκυσε , καὶ ἐκ? τῆς ὀλεθρείας χειρὸς? ἐξ‑ / ἔσπασε , ἢ τῷ Θεῷ προσήγαγεν .}}
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delictorum venià, quam poſcebat, Mulierem peccatricem; Publicanum verò adeo non eſt averſatus, ut Euangelii præconem eſſe voluerit; uti & perſecutorem fecit Apoſtolum, & plures alios ex veteri ac novo Teſtamento adducere poſſim tibi, qui in ejusmodi vitâ prolapſi amiſſam vitam ſalutemque per pœnitentiam divinitus recuperarunt, ſi protrahere libeat ſermonem. Sed hæc tibi, fili, ſint ſatis: neque enim animus mihi fuit ullo modo increpare te, ne te abſterream, aut quidquam faciam quo à congreſſu meo fias alienus. Sed videbam te haudquaquam velle intelligere, cum ſpiritualibus emplastrorum minimè aſtringentium acervorumve incantationibus, intricatiſque, ut ita dicam, faſciniis ulceri tuo mederi conabar: vehementi itaque commiſeratione tactus non potui morbi cauſam non aperire; ut remedium congruum afferamus: {{left sidenote|'''B'''}} nam neque qui corporis curant ægritudines, prius inconſideratè præbent antidota laborantibus, quam morbi cauſam ipſi explicuerint: correptis etenim delinquentibus obtunditur vis peccati: non correptis autem, ut gangræna, cui pabulum ſubminiſtres, totum corpus depaſcitur, ita latens peccatum animam æque ac corpus ſuâ peſte contaminat. Ceterum noli animum deſpondere, fili, aut tantopere erubeſcere; ſed à Deo veniam efflagita; non enim in te uno id præſtitit; verum in aliis etiam compluribus.
{{left sidenote|''& ſæpe aliàs occultas ejusdem cogitationes detegit.''}}
91 Hæc ubi dixiſſet inſtinctus Dei gratiâ Senex, vireſque ſuſcepiſſet imbecillitati meæ, ab eo diſceſſi non ſine admiratione & arcanæ ſcientiæ, & commiſerationis ejus; tum ab ea fore⊠, quacum peccaveram, penitus me avelli; neque exinde, pudore victus, tam frequenter, ut ante ſolitus eram, inviſere Senem audebam. Sed ille ex improviſo fortè obviam factus mihi: Cur, inquit, diſtitiſti, fili, ab illo ſtudio, quo humilitatis meæ inſtructionibus vacabas ante tam ſedulo? Cumque repoſuiſſem: Nulla re alia impedior, præterquam occupationibus, quæ me undique circumſtant; rogatus ut bene mihi precari vellet atque ignoſcere, reſpondit: Ignoſco ego quidem & bona tibi quæque apprecor; verum quod noſtræ te mediocritati ſubduxeris in cauſa vere fuit illud & illud;{{left sidenote|'''C'''}} quod eò dictum puta, ne cogitationibus ejusmodi prohiberi te à noſtro acceſſu permittas. Mentiri noli; perſpicuum veritatem cum ſcias, eloquere. Miſeriarum igitur mearum cogitationumque probè conſcius, dixi: Ita eſt, ita omnino eſt; rem ipſam elocutus es, ſancte pater; ipſiſſima illa eſt ratio, cur emolumenta priſtina aucupari deſierim. Sed infirmas vires meas, turbidamque mentem Deo commenda, ut inde expellantur, deſinantque offendiculo eſſe apprehenſiones omnes ſaluti adverſantes. Precatione ejus deinde, ac benedictione armatus cœpto itinere perrexi. Quoties verò de noxiis intimiſque animi ſenſus arguerit me Senex ille mirificus, dicendo equidem, dilecte, non ſum: neque enim ante deſtitit, quam ad ſe pertraxiſſet, draconique exitiali ereptum, adduxiſſet ad Deum.
{{left sidenote|''Alterius vicinam mortem, & caput ſtellis coronatum videt.''}}
92 Fuit alius quidam de ſancto monachorum grege presbyter religioſiſſimus, qui hæc mihi totidem penè verbis narravit: Profecti die quadam eramus ego & alius aliquis monachus Syrus, vir & ſenio & ſanctimoniâ venerabilis,
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{{graeca|… τῶν πταισμάτων αἰτεῖσθαι? τὴν ἄφεσιν , ὅτε / τελώνην εὐαγγελιστὴν? εἶναι παρῃτήσατο , καὶ / διώκτην ἀπόστολον , καὶ πλείονας ἄν σοι ἐν‑ / τε τῇ παλαιᾷ καὶ τῇ νέᾳ διαθήκῃ τοιού‑ / τοις ἐμπεσόντας πάθεσι , καὶ θεόθεν ἰαθέντας / διὰ τῆς μετανοίας λέξοιμι , εἴγε βουλομένῳ? / ἀλαπύτερον? ποιεῖσθαι λόγον . Ἀλλ᾽ ἱκανούσθω / σοι ταῦτα , τέκνον . Οὐδὲ γὰρ ἐλέγξαί σε / παντελῶς ἠβουλόμην , ἵνα μή σε πύρω? , ἢ / τῆς ἐμῆς ὁμιλίας ἀποφυγεῖν παρασκευάσω . / Ἀλλ᾽ εἰδόν σε μηδαμῶς ζωιέντα? ἐμοί? τὸ σὸν / ἕλκος ἀνευρυπτικῶν? τε καὶ ἀδαμαντίνων? ἐμ‑ / πλάστρων , πνευματικαῖς ἐπῳδαῖς καὶ γελοφώδεσι? / γοητείαις θεραπεῦσαι? μηχανηθείς? , ἐβιάσθην ἀποκαλύψαι τὸ πάθος τὸ αὔλιον? , ὑπὸ πολλς διαπύρου κινηθεὶς συμπαθεί‑ / ας , ἵνα τὴν διάκρισιν? ἐμποιήσω? θερα‑ / πείαν . καὶ γὰρ οἱ τῶν σωματικῶν νόσων / ἰατροὶ οὐ πρῶτον ἀθεωρήτως παρέχουσι τὰς / ἀντιδότους τοῖς κάμνουσι , πρὶν ἂν ἐξείπωσι? / τῆς νόσου τὸ αἴτιον · ἐλεγχομένων δὲ τῶν ἁ‑ / μαρτανόντων , καταργεῖται τῆς μαρτίας δύ‑ / ναμις , μὴ ἐλεγχομένων δὲ , ὥσπερ γάγγραι‑ / να νομὴν λαβοῦσα}}
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{{graeca|, ὅλον ἀφανίζει τὸ σῶμα · / οὕτως καὶ ἡ ἁμαρτία λαθοῦσα ζωὴ? τῇ / σαρκὶ καὶ τὴν ψυχὴν διαφθείρει . Λοιπὸν μὴ / ἀθύμει , τέκνον , μή τε τοσοῦτον αἰσχύνε , / ἀλλ᾽ αἰτησάμενος παρὰ τοῦ Θεοῦ τν συγχώρη‑ / σιν · οὐκ ἐν σοὶ γὰρ μόνῳ τοῦτο πεποίηκε , / ἀλλὰ καὶ ἐν ἄλλοις διαφόροις .}}
{{graeca|91 Ταῦτα δὲ λαλήσαντος τοῦ χαριτοπνεύ‑ / στου Γέροντος , καὶ τὴν ἐμὴν ἐπηρείξαντος ἀ‑ / σθένειαν , ἐπορεύθην , τὴν αὐτοῦ θαυμάζων / διόρασίν τε καὶ συμπάθειαν , καὶ παντάπα‑ / σιν ἐμαυτὸν ἀπέκοψα τῆς ἀδελφῆς ἐκείνης , / μεθ᾽ ἧς τὴν μαρτίαν ἐποίησα , καὶ μετέ‑ / πειτα αἰδοῖ φερόμενος , οὐκ ἠσχύναζον? τῷ / Γέροντι , ὥσπερ εἴωθα . Αὐτὸς δὲ κατὰ συγ‑ / κυρίαν? αἰφνίδιον ἀπαντήσας μοι · Διὰ τί ὁ? / χολάζεις , τέκνον , τῇ ἐμῇ ταπεινώσει , ἔφη ; / Ἐμοὶ δὲ εἰρηκότι · Ὑπ᾽ οὐδενὸς κωλύομαι , / ἀλλ᾽ ὑπὸ τῆς ἀσχολίας , ᾗ? περίκειμαι · ἢ / διχῶς? παρ᾽ ατοῦ λαβεῖν καὶ συγχώρησιν αἰ‑ / τησάμην , ἔφη · Ἐγὼ μὲν συγχωρῶ καὶ ἐ‑ / πεύχομαί σοι · Ὅπερ δέ σε τῆς ἡμετέρας ἐξισᾷ? / μετριότητος , πέφυκε τόδε καὶ τόδε , ὡς ἐκ? / ὑπὸ τῶνδε καὶ τνδε λογισμν κωλύῃ / πρὸς μᾶς ἐληλυθέναι · μὴ ψεύδου {{right sidenote|'''F'''}} , τὰ σα‑ / φῇ ἐπισταμένῳ? φράσαι . Ἐγνωκὼς δὲ τὰ / ἡμέτερα μελεδήματά τε καὶ ἐνθυμήματα , ἔ‑ / φην · Ναὶ , ναὶ ἀληθῶς , πάτερ ἅγιε , / ἔφης · τούτου γὰρ χάριν τῆς ζωῆς ὠφε‑ / λείας ἀπέχομαι? , ἀλλὰ ἀεὶ εὖχου ὑπὲρ τῆς / ἐμῆς ἀσθενείας , καὶ θολερᾶς διανοίας , καὶ / ὅπως ἐκ ποδῶν ἐκβληθῶσιν ἀπ᾽ ἐμοῦ πάν‑ / τες οἱ τς σωτηρίας ἀντίπαλοι λογισμοί . / Τὴν εὐχὴν? δὲ αὐτοῦ καὶ τὴν εὐλογίαν λα‑ / βὼν , εἰχόμην τῆς ὁδο . Καὶ σάκις λέγ‑ / χθην , ἀγαπητὲ , περὶ τν ἐνοικούντων μοι / ἐναντίων λογισμῶν πὸ τούτου τοῦ σημειοφόρου / Γέροντος , ἐξειπεῖν ἀμηχανῶ · ὃ? πρότερον γὰρ / ἐλέγχειν με πέπαυται , ἕως ἄν με πρὸς ἑ‑ / αὐτὸν καθέλκυσε , καὶ ἐκ? τῆς ὀλεθρείας χειρὸς? ἐξ‑ / ἔσπασε , ἢ τῷ Θεῷ προσήγαγεν .}}
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{{graeca|… τὸν θεοφόρον Στέφανον , διάγοντα τότε ἐν τοῖς / τοῦ Δουκᾶ σπηλαίοις · αὐτόν τε κατασπασόμενοι , καὶ / αυτος καρπωσόμενοι τὴν ὠφέλειαν . Ἐγγισάντων δὲ / ἡμν , ἐξ δίων? σπηλαίων ἀσυνήθως ἐξέδρα‑ / με? εἰς τὴν μετέραν ἀπάντησιν , καὶ τὴν / τοῦ ζωοδεύοντός? μοι κεφαλὴν καταφιλή‑ / σας , ἑλληνιστὶ προσεφθέγξατο οὕτως · Τελειῶσαι / [βούλεται ὁ] Κύριος τὸν ἱερόν σου δρόμον , καὶ / τὸ ἀρετοπλεκτόν σου στέφανον , ᾧ φαιδρῶς ἐ‑ / σεφάνωσαι , καὶ ἐπομβρῆσαί? σοι τὴν χάριν / αὐτοῦ? καὶ ἄφθονον . Καὶ ταῦτα εἰπὼν , εἰσ‑ / ελθόντων ἡμῶν τὸ σπήλαιον , καὶ ὀλίγα? ποι‑ / ησαμένων , καὶ περὶ τινῶν διαλεχθέντων πνευ‑ / ματικῶν λογίων , λαβόμενός μου τῆς χειρὸς / ἔφη μυστικῶς · Σπεῦσον , ἀγαπητὸν τέκνον , τὸν / γέροντα τοῦτον διαναπαῦσαι , καὶ ἀγώνισαι παν‑ / τὶ σθένει εἰς πᾶσαν θεραπείαν αὐτῷ καὶ ἄνε‑ / σιν , ἵνα χῇς? μετ᾽ αὐτοῦ κλρον καὶ μερίδα / τῶν ἐρανοδρόμων? (οὐρανοδρόμων?) αὐτοῦ ἐπουρανίων? · πίστευε δὲ , / τέκνον , τἀληθὲς ἐρῶν? , ὅτι , ἐμοὶ ὑμν προσ‑ / ιόντων , παρακύψας θεωρῶ αὐτὸν , τὴν κεφα‑ / λὴν ἐστεμμένον? λίαν ἐκλάμπῳ ἀστροπλέκτῳ / διαδήματι , ὅθεν εἰς τὴν ὑμετέραν ἀπάντησιν / ἐξέδραμον , καὶ τὴν ἱερὰν αὐτῷ κορυφὴν ἠσ‑ / πασάμην .}} {{left sidenote|'''B'''}} {{graeca|Τεθαυμακὼς δὲ ἐπὶ τούτοις , δοξολο‑ / γίαν καὶ ἐν τῷδε τῷ Θε ἀνέπεμψα , τῷ παν‑ / τοίως στεφανοῦντι τοὺς δούλους αὐτοῦ ἀστρομόρφοις / χαριτοβλύτοις στεφανώμασιν .}}
{{graeca|93 Ἄλλος δέ τις εὐλαβὴς μοναχὸς διηγή‑ / σατό μοι , λέγων οὕτως · Ἔστι μοί τις ἀνεψι‑ / ός , ὀνόματι Πατρίκιος , θεοσεβέστατος . Οὗτος / μιᾷ τῶν ἡμερῶν τῷ ζωτηριώδει? πάσχα ἐκ τῆς / ἡμετέρας ἀφικόμενος? Μωαβήτιδος χώρας , ἐ‑ / πεθύμησε ἐν τῇ μεγάλῃ Λαύρᾳ μῶν προσ‑ / εύξασθαι · οὐκ ἦλθε? γάρ ποτε αὐτῇ τοὺς ἐξ‑ / αὐτοῦ? ἐπιθέμενος? πόδας , καταλαβὼν δὲ ταύ‑ / τῃ ζῶν? τοὺς ὄχλους ἐν τῇ ἁγίᾳ πομπῇ , καὶ / προσευξάμενος , ἐπορεύθη πρὸς τν θεοφόρον Στέ‑ / φανον · τοῦτον δὲ εἰσεληλυθότα? , ἀπείρων λαῶν / καθημένων , καὶ τῆς φωτιστικῆς διδασκαλίας ἀ‑ / κροωμένων , ἐώρακεν? ὁ φωστὴρ? οὗτος Στέφανος , / ὀνομαστὶ φωτοφρόνως? ἀποδεξάμενος? πρὸς αὐ‑ / τὸν ἔφη · Εὖ ἦλθες , ἀγαπητὲ , εὖ ἦλθες . Οὐχὶ / σὺ εἶ κύριος Πατρίκιος ; Εὖ ἦλθες? ὁ κύ‑ / ριος Πατρίκιος , καὶ καλὸς Χριστιανός . Τρὶς / δὲ επόντος αὐτ οὕτως , καὶ ὀνομάσαντος , / ὃν νοεροῖς μὲν , καὶ? σωματικοῖς φθαλμοῖς / ἐώρακε πώποτε , ὅτε μὲν αὐτῷ τὴν προσ‑ / ηγορίαν μεμαθηκώς , καταπλαγέντες τὴν / θεόσδοτον αὐτοῦ χάριν ἐπῃνούσαμεθα? , δό‑ / ξαν τῷ Θεῷ καὶ ἐν τούτοις ἀναπέμπον‑ / τες .}}
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{{graeca|94 Ἄλλος δέ τις , ὀνόματι Θεοδήμητος , πρεσ‑ / βύτερος τῆς ἁγίας Χριστοῦ τοῦ Θεοῦ μῶν Ἀνα‑ / στάσεως , ἐκ τῆς ἱεροτάτης μοναχικῆς ἀγέλης / ὑπάρχων , παραδοξότατον διηγήσατό μοι θαῦ‑ / μα λέγων · Μιᾷ τῶν ἡμερῶν ἐγώ τε καὶ / τις ἕτερος ἐπετεθυμήμεθα? τὸν θεοφόρον κατα‑ / σπάσασθαι Στέφανον , διατρίβοντα τότε ἐν ταῖς / ὑψηλαῖς τν Κουτυλν? ρέων κορυφαῖς · / πρὸς ἃς βάδιω? ἡμῶν περιπατούντων? , ὤφθη‑ / σαν δύο νεανίδες τὸ μοναχικὸν ἐνδεδυμέναι / σχῆμα , καὶ τὸν ἐρημικὸν διώκουσαι βίον , ἕως / τῶν γονάτων φορούσας σάκκους , καὶ μέχρι πο‑ / δῶν τὰς τρίχας κομῶσαι , θεμαδέεις? καὶ κα‑ / ταπληκτικαί , τῷ εἴδει μοίαι χουσαι , ποι‑ / μένος δὲ δίκην ἀκόλουθον? σημειοφόρον μητέρα . / Ταύτας δὲ Ἀραβῖταί τινες αἰγονόμοι τοῖς / ὄρεσι περιθέουσας? ἰδόντες , κατέδραμον οἷα κύ‑ / νες λυττῶδες? καὶ ἄγριοι θῆρες διώκοντες , …}}
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ad deiferum Stephanum, in Ducæ ſpeluncis tum temporis latitantem, ſalutaturi ſimul ipſum, ſimul aliquid nobis emolumenti ſpiritualis queſituri. Jamque haud longe aberamus, cum ille de ſpelæo ſuo præter ſolitum in occurſum nobis procurrit, & comitis mei vultum intuens, ita græcè affatus eſt: Viſum eſt Deo curſum tuum ſanctum, plexamque virtutibus coronam, qua glorioſè redimitus es, conſummare, & gratiam in te ſuam, eamque copioſiſſimam, depluere. His dictis, in ſpeluncam concedimus; finita precatione, pioque de rebus quibuſdam ſpiritualibus diſcurſu, manu me prenſat, hæc clanculum inſuſurrans: Da operam, fili dilecte, ut huic ſeni bene facias, & quanta potes contentione, cuicumque ejus obſequio commodiſque deſervi, ut & conſors ipſi hæreditatis, & cælos penetrantis ejus patrocinii particeps. {{right sidenote|'''B'''}} Mihi vero crede, fili, rem ipſam afferenti; cum jam ad me veniſſis, ut primum oculos obiter intendi, verticem ipſi vidi fulgidiſſimo, conſertoque è ſtellis diademate inſignitum; & id cauſæ fuit, cur obviam vobis accurrerem, & faciem ejus ſacram exoſcularer. Quibus ego rebus non parum attonitus; in Dei, coronis multifariis, ſidereis, mirumque afflantibus decorem famulos ſuos exornantis, laudes erupi.
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93 Alium vero quemdam pium monachum ſic narrantem audivi: Eſt mihi patruelis, nomine Patricius, vir religioſiſſimus. Hic dierum aliquâ ſalutaris Paſchæ ex Moabitide regione noſtra veniens, in magna Laura noſtra deprecari Deum vehementer optabat: neque enim iſtuc pedem umquam tulerat: cumque ad eam ſanctâ ferâ quintâ Majoris hebdomadæ in frequenti hominum concurſu perveniſſet, perſolutis precibus, ad deiferum Stephanum ſe contulit; quem ut præclarus hic Stephanus, infinita populi multitudine circumſepte, inſtructionemque ejus lumine cæleſti plenam excipiente, adveniſſe conſpexit, mente divinitus colluſtratâ; nominatim eum recipiens, ait: Bene veneris, dilecte, bene veneris. {{right sidenote|'''F'''}} An non dominus Patricius es tu? Optimè venerit dominus Patricius, & inſigniter Chriſtianus. Cum idem tertio repeteret, ac nomine compellaret, quem animi quidem, ſed corporis tamen oculis nunquam viderat, & cujus ne nomen quidem audierat uſpiam, perculſi datam ei è cælo gratiam meritis celebrabamus præconiis, Deoque etiam in his gloriam tranſmiſſimus.
{{right sidenote|''Mater eremicola cum filiabus, à S. Stephani colloquio rediens;''}}
94 Alius præterea quidam, cui nomen Theodegetus, ſanctæ Chriſti Dei noſtri Reſurrectionis presbyter, è ſanctiſſima monachorum familia, hoc mihi mirandum quàm quod maximè prodigium in hunc modum recenſuit: Lubebat aliquando mihi & alii cuidam deiferum Stephanum honoris causâ inviſere, qui agebat ea tempeſtate in ſublimibus montium Cutilæ adjacentium jugis, quo dum lento gradu procedimus, in conſpectum prodeunt puellæ duæ habitu indutæ monaſtico, vitamque ſolitariam proſitentes; genuum tenùs coopertæ ciliciis, capillis ad pedes uſque promiſſis, horridæ, viſuque terribiles, & ſimili ſpecie inſignem prodigiis matrem habentes, quæ paſtoris inſtar filias ſequebatur. Vix adeo has circumcurſare montes advererant Arabes caprarii, cum eò convolant, non ſecus ac rabidi furioſique canes, cum feras inſectantur, mi-
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minacibus verbis rationabiles Chriſti agnas perterrefacientes, ut metu ac trepidatione debilitatæ curſum ſiſtere, atque in manus eorum impuriſſimas incidere cogantur. Sed vicit enimvero providentiæ vis quædam ineffabilis, dum terribiles ab ipſis ſtupendaſque pœnas repetiit: nam puellis quidem tantam indidiſſe ſe agilitatem oſtendit, ut & velociſſimos cervos, capreaſque leviffimas curſu ſaltuque præverterent; & matrem ſenio venerandam, ſingulari providentiæ ratione, permiſit elabi, ac formidandam in ſceleratos ganeones vindictam exercuit.{{right sidenote|''Arabem, vim ſibi afferre conantem, igneo ſpiritus exectat & arefacit; orante interim pro ea S. Stephano;'' '''B'''}}
95 O miraculum ingens! O ſtuporem inuſitatum! Etiam nunc horreo totus & contremiſco, dilecte mi, quoties ſpectaculi tunc oblati myſterium recordor. Poſtquam etenim divinæ providentiæ numquam ſatis laudandæ beneficio anus illa ſancta evaſiſſet; impiorum Arabum unus, eam aſſecutus, per facros crines arripuit, furioſe ardens cæliſſimo ejus corpori vitium offerre. Itaque dum eam rurſum prorſum raptat, rabioſi inſtar canis, illa flammeum aërem, quo ſacrum ei os divinitus turgeſcebat, in faciem ejus belluinam evomuit, oculoſque exuſſit, & luxatum toto corpore, immotumque, ac ſtupentem reddidit; tum anilium membrorum excuſſa debilitate, generoſo curſu impuris neſarii hominis eluctata manibus, cariſſimas filias conſecuta eſt. Neque vero Stephanum ad aliena mala tam tenerum, hoc rerum articulo dormitantem videres, pugnæque à myſtico Amalec adverſus dilectam Chriſti oviculam concitatæ ſecurum; ſed fortiſſimè obnitentem, bellumque ex adverſo ſtrenuè gerentem, atque expanſis ad Chriſtum regem manibus in fugam avertentem hoſtes; ad quem mirabili hoc facto conterriti acceſſimus, præmiſſiſque urbanitatis officiis, quærere exorſi ſumus de inſolito hoc ſpectaculo, ac dicere: Num reſciſti forſitan, ſancte pater, ſingulare omnino, quod modo vidimus, miraculum? Cum ille: Sane, inquit, dilecti; ſpectavi equidem: atque gaviſus oppido ſum victoriâ, miroque factnore innocuæ Chriſti agnæ, quem ea decertante, ſum deprecatus, ne manibus traderetur inſenſis, ſed bellatoris inſeſti victricem eam generoſam exhiberet: neque enim confundit ille ad ſe confugientes; ſed à ſatanico quovis incurſu præſtat immunes. Itaque grates ei perſolvimus, qui famulos ſuos rebus prorſus admirandis illuſtrare non ceſſat.{{right sidenote|'''C'''}}
96 Auditis hiſce, vehementer obſtupuimus, & rogitavimus, ſi eas noſſet? Tum ille: Quandoquidem dignos vos Deus habuit, qui eas conſpiceretis, ac teſtes adhibuit patrati modo per illas prodigii tam terribilis, nolens in tenebris virtutem ejuſmodi deliteſcere, ſed velut columnis inciſam poſteris commendari per vos, ac notam omnibus fieri; propterea genus earum ſciſcitantibus vobis ediſſeram, quo magis magiſque virtutem pernoſcatis. Genere quidem Romanæ ſunt; nobiles, divites, ac magiſtratum gerentes habuêre majores: patre autem, viro, dum viveret, præclaro ac primante, qui utramque hanc filiam opulentis, immenſiſque locupletatam divitiis poſt ſe reliquit, vitâ functo, mater, ut quæ ſolum ante oculos Deum habebat, opibus contemptis, nun-{{right sidenote|''à quo intelligunt, qui rem viderant, quænam ipſæ ſint.''}}
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{{graeca|… ἀπειλητικοῖς λόγοις ἐκφοβοῦντες τὰς τοῦ / Χριστοῦ λογικὰς ἀμνάδας , ἵνα τῷ φόβῳ καὶ τρό‑ / μῳ κεκτηθεῖσαι? , τοῦ δρόμου ἀπόσχωνται , ἢ / ταῖς ἀνόμοις αὐτῶν ἐμπέσωσι παλάμαις · / ἀλλ' ὄντως ἡ τοῦ Θεοῦ ῤητος προνοητικὴ / δύναμις ἐπεφανεῖτο? , φρικτῶς καὶ παρά‑ / δοξον ἐν αὐταῖς ἐργασαμένη τιμωρίαν · ταῖς / μὲν γὰρ κόραις ἀνέδειξεν ὡσεὶ ταχείας ἐλά‑ / φους , καὶ πηδητικὰς δορκάδας τρεχούσας / τε καὶ πηδώσας · τὴν δὲ γεραιὰν / καὶ αἰδέσιμον μητέρα , κατά τινα ἔννοιαν? / ἐξαίσιον τρόπον ἐξολισθῆσαι παραχωρήσασα , / φοβερὰν ἐκδίκησιν ἐν τοῖς ἀθέοις πεποίηκεν . }}
{{graeca|95 Ὦ τὸ μέγα θαῦμα ! ὦ τὸ ξέ‑ / νης ἐκπλήξεως ! φρίττω ἢ τρέμω , μεμνη‑ / μένος , ἀγαπητέ , τοῦ τότε ὀφθέντος θεάμα‑ / τος τὸ μυστήριον · τὴν δὲ ἁγίαν γραῦν ἐκείνην? / ἐξολισθῆσαι παραχωρήσασα ἡ ἄφατος πρό‑}}
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{{graeca|νοια τοῦ Θεοῦ , εἰς τὸ? ἀνόμων Ἀράβων? κατα‑ / φθάσας , τῆς ἱερᾶς κόμης ἐλάβετο , τὸ ἀγνὸν / αὐτῆς καταχρᾶσθαι σῶμα μανικῶς βουλόμενος . / Ὡς δὲ , κυνὸς δίκην λυσσῶντος , εἵλκε τε καὶ ἀν‑ / θέλκετο , τὸ ὅσιον αὐτῆς σῶμα φλογώδους / ἀέρος πληρώσασα , τῇ θηριώδει αὐτοῦ προσώ‑ / πῳ ἐπεφύσησε , καὶ τὰς ὄψεις ἐτύφλωσε , καὶ / πηρὸν λον καὶ ἀκίνητον καὶ ἀποπληκτικὸν κα‑ / τέστησε , καὶ τὴν σωματικὴν ἀποτιναξαμένη / ἀσθένειαν , γενναίῳ δρόμῳ ταῖς φίλαις θυγα‑ / τράσι ἕπετο , τὰς μιαρὰς τοῦ ἀσεβοῦς φυγοῦ‑ / σα χεῖρας . Καὶ τότε οὐκ ἂν ἴδοις τὸν συμ‑ / παθῆ Στέφανον νυστάζοντα , καὶ τὸ πρὸς τὴν / φίλην τοῦ Χριστοῦ ἀμνάδα ἐν νοητῇ ἀμάλῃ? / μάχῃ ἀμελοῦντα , ἀλλὰ γενναίως πάνυ ἀν‑ / τιπαρατασσόμενόν τε καὶ ἀντιπαρατασσόμενον? , / τῇ πρὸς τὸν ἄνακτα Χριστὸν τὰς χεῖρας ἐκτείνων? / τοὺς ἐχθροὺς ἀποτρέποντα , πρὸς ὃν ἐκ‑ / θαμβηθέντες τῷ παραδόξῳ θαύματι κατε‑ / λαβόμεθα , καὶ αὐτὸν ἀσπασάμενοι , προκατηρξάμε‑ / θα? ἐπερωτῶντες περὶ τοῦ ξένου θεάματος , καὶ}}
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{{graeca|λέγοντες · ἴσως εἶδες , γιε πάτερ , ὅπερ ἐω‑ / ράκαμεν ἐξαίσιον θαῦμα ; Ὁ δὲ · Ναὶ , ἀγα‑ / πητοί , ἐθεασάμην , ἔφη , καὶ λίαν ηὐφράνθην / ἐπὶ τ νίκῃ καὶ θαυματουργίᾳ τῆς ἁγνῆς / τοῦ Χριστοῦ ἀμνάδος , ἣν , αὐτς πολεμουμένης , / ἠδυνάμην? τοῖς λυσσῶσι μὴ παραδοῦναι χερ‑ / σί , ἀλλ' ἀναδεῖξαι γενναίαν αὐτὴν? πρό‑ / μαχον κατὰ τοῦ χαλεποῦ πολεμητοῦ · ὃ? / γὰρ καταισχύνει τοὺς προσφυγάς? , ἀλλὰ / ῥύεται αὐτοὺς? πάσης σατανικῆς προσβολῆς . / Εὐχαριστεῖτε? ἐν αὐτῷ διὰ παντὸς τῷ τὰς? / δόξας αὐτοῦ παντοίως μεγαλύναντι θαυμα‑ / σίοις . }}
{{graeca|96 Ἡμεῖς δὲ ταῦτα ἀκούσαντες , ὑπὲρ λίαν? / τεθαυμάκαμεν , καὶ αὐτὸν ἠρωτήσαμεν , εἴ‑ / περ ἔτι? ἐπιγνώσκομεν? αὐτάς ; Αὐτὸς δὲ ἔφη / πρὸς ἡμᾶς · Ἐπείπερ ὁ Θεὸς ὑμᾶς τὰς ἁ‑ / γίας ταύτας ἰδεῖν κατηξίωσε , καὶ μάρτυρας / πεποίηκε τοῦ δι' αὐτῶν ἀποτελεσθέντος φρικω‑ / δεστάτου θαύματος , μὴ θέλων τοιαύτην ἀρε‑ / τὴν κατακαλύψαι , ἀλλὰ δι' ὑμῶν ζητηθῆναι? , / καὶ πᾶσι γνωστὸν ποιήσασθαι , διὰ τοῦτο / ὑμῖν ἐπερωτῶσι τὸ γένος αὐτῶν ἐξαγορεῦσαί? , / ἵνα μᾶλλον καὶ μᾶλλον καταμάθητε τὸ σφν / ατῶν ἀρετῆς τὸ μέγεθος . Αὗται τῷ γένει / μέν εἰσι Ῥωμαῖαι , ἀρχόντων? ἢ πλουσίων καὶ / ἀρχόντων ὁρμώμεναι? · τοῦ δὲ πατρὸς τελευτήσαν‑ / τος , ἐνδόξου καὶ μεγίστου ἀνδρὸς ὑπάρχοντος , / τὰς δύο ταύτας θυγατέρας καταλείψαντος / ἐπὶ πολλος καὶ ἀναριθμήτοις κτήμασι , κατα‑ / φρονήσασαι …}}<noinclude><!-- -->
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minacibus verbis rationabiles Chriſti agnas perterrefacientes, ut metu ac trepidatione debilitatæ curſum ſiſtere, atque in manus eorum impuriſſimas incidere cogantur. Sed vicit enimvero providentiæ vis quædam ineffabilis, dum terribiles ab ipſis ſtupendaſque pœnas repetiit: nam puellis quidem tantam indidiſſe ſe agilitatem oſtendit, ut & velociſſimos cervos, capreaſque leviffimas curſu ſaltuque præverterent; & matrem ſenio venerandam, ſingulari providentiæ ratione, permiſit elabi, ac formidandam in ſceleratos ganeones vindictam exercuit.{{left sidenote|''Arabem, vim ſibi afferre conantem, igneo ſpiritus exectat & arefacit; orante interim pro ea S. Stephano;'' '''B'''}}
95 O miraculum ingens! O ſtuporem inuſitatum! Etiam nunc horreo totus & contremiſco, dilecte mi, quoties ſpectaculi tunc oblati myſterium recordor. Poſtquam etenim divinæ providentiæ numquam ſatis laudandæ beneficio anus illa ſancta evaſiſſet; impiorum Arabum unus, eam aſſecutus, per facros crines arripuit, furioſe ardens cæliſſimo ejus corpori vitium offerre. Itaque dum eam rurſum prorſum raptat, rabioſi inſtar canis, illa flammeum aërem, quo ſacrum ei os divinitus turgeſcebat, in faciem ejus belluinam evomuit, oculoſque exuſſit, & luxatum toto corpore, immotumque, ac ſtupentem reddidit; tum anilium membrorum excuſſa debilitate, generoſo curſu impuris neſarii hominis eluctata manibus, cariſſimas filias conſecuta eſt. Neque vero Stephanum ad aliena mala tam tenerum, hoc rerum articulo dormitantem videres, pugnæque à myſtico Amalec adverſus dilectam Chriſti oviculam concitatæ ſecurum; ſed fortiſſimè obnitentem, bellumque ex adverſo ſtrenuè gerentem, atque expanſis ad Chriſtum regem manibus in fugam avertentem hoſtes; ad quem mirabili hoc facto conterriti acceſſimus, præmiſſiſque urbanitatis officiis, quærere exorſi ſumus de inſolito hoc ſpectaculo, ac dicere: Num reſciſti forſitan, ſancte pater, ſingulare omnino, quod modo vidimus, miraculum? Cum ille: Sane, inquit, dilecti; ſpectavi equidem: atque gaviſus oppido ſum victoriâ, miroque factnore innocuæ Chriſti agnæ, quem ea decertante, ſum deprecatus, ne manibus traderetur inſenſis, ſed bellatoris inſeſti victricem eam generoſam exhiberet: neque enim confundit ille ad ſe confugientes; ſed à ſatanico quovis incurſu præſtat immunes. Itaque grates ei perſolvimus, qui famulos ſuos rebus prorſus admirandis illuſtrare non ceſſat.{{left sidenote|'''C'''}}
96 Auditis hiſce, vehementer obſtupuimus, & rogitavimus, ſi eas noſſet? Tum ille: Quandoquidem dignos vos Deus habuit, qui eas conſpiceretis, ac teſtes adhibuit patrati modo per illas prodigii tam terribilis, nolens in tenebris virtutem ejuſmodi deliteſcere, ſed velut columnis inciſam poſteris commendari per vos, ac notam omnibus fieri; propterea genus earum ſciſcitantibus vobis ediſſeram, quo magis magiſque virtutem pernoſcatis. Genere quidem Romanæ ſunt; nobiles, divites, ac magiſtratum gerentes habuêre majores: patre autem, viro, dum viveret, præclaro ac primante, qui utramque hanc filiam opulentis, immenſiſque locupletatam divitiis poſt ſe reliquit, vitâ functo, mater, ut quæ ſolum ante oculos Deum habebat, opibus contemptis, nun-{{left sidenote|''à quo intelligunt, qui rem viderant, quænam ipſæ ſint.''}}
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{{graeca|… ἀπειλητικοῖς λόγοις ἐκφοβοῦντες τὰς τοῦ / Χριστοῦ λογικὰς ἀμνάδας , ἵνα τῷ φόβῳ καὶ τρό‑ / μῳ κεκτηθεῖσαι? , τοῦ δρόμου ἀπόσχωνται , ἢ / ταῖς ἀνόμοις αὐτῶν ἐμπέσωσι παλάμαις · / ἀλλ' ὄντως ἡ τοῦ Θεοῦ ῤητος προνοητικὴ / δύναμις ἐπεφανεῖτο? , φρικτῶς καὶ παρά‑ / δοξον ἐν αὐταῖς ἐργασαμένη τιμωρίαν · ταῖς / μὲν γὰρ κόραις ἀνέδειξεν ὡσεὶ ταχείας ἐλά‑ / φους , καὶ πηδητικὰς δορκάδας τρεχούσας / τε καὶ πηδώσας · τὴν δὲ γεραιὰν / καὶ αἰδέσιμον μητέρα , κατά τινα ἔννοιαν? / ἐξαίσιον τρόπον ἐξολισθῆσαι παραχωρήσασα , / φοβερὰν ἐκδίκησιν ἐν τοῖς ἀθέοις πεποίηκεν . }}
{{graeca|95 Ὦ τὸ μέγα θαῦμα ! ὦ τὸ ξέ‑ / νης ἐκπλήξεως ! φρίττω ἢ τρέμω , μεμνη‑ / μένος , ἀγαπητέ , τοῦ τότε ὀφθέντος θεάμα‑ / τος τὸ μυστήριον · τὴν δὲ ἁγίαν γραῦν ἐκείνην? / ἐξολισθῆσαι παραχωρήσασα ἡ ἄφατος πρό‑}}
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{{graeca|νοια τοῦ Θεοῦ , εἰς τὸ? ἀνόμων Ἀράβων? κατα‑ / φθάσας , τῆς ἱερᾶς κόμης ἐλάβετο , τὸ ἀγνὸν / αὐτῆς καταχρᾶσθαι σῶμα μανικῶς βουλόμενος . / Ὡς δὲ , κυνὸς δίκην λυσσῶντος , εἵλκε τε καὶ ἀν‑ / θέλκετο , τὸ ὅσιον αὐτῆς σῶμα φλογώδους / ἀέρος πληρώσασα , τῇ θηριώδει αὐτοῦ προσώ‑ / πῳ ἐπεφύσησε , καὶ τὰς ὄψεις ἐτύφλωσε , καὶ / πηρὸν λον καὶ ἀκίνητον καὶ ἀποπληκτικὸν κα‑ / τέστησε , καὶ τὴν σωματικὴν ἀποτιναξαμένη / ἀσθένειαν , γενναίῳ δρόμῳ ταῖς φίλαις θυγα‑ / τράσι ἕπετο , τὰς μιαρὰς τοῦ ἀσεβοῦς φυγοῦ‑ / σα χεῖρας . Καὶ τότε οὐκ ἂν ἴδοις τὸν συμ‑ / παθῆ Στέφανον νυστάζοντα , καὶ τὸ πρὸς τὴν / φίλην τοῦ Χριστοῦ ἀμνάδα ἐν νοητῇ ἀμάλῃ? / μάχῃ ἀμελοῦντα , ἀλλὰ γενναίως πάνυ ἀν‑ / τιπαρατασσόμενόν τε καὶ ἀντιπαρατασσόμενον? , / τῇ πρὸς τὸν ἄνακτα Χριστὸν τὰς χεῖρας ἐκτείνων? / τοὺς ἐχθροὺς ἀποτρέποντα , πρὸς ὃν ἐκ‑ / θαμβηθέντες τῷ παραδόξῳ θαύματι κατε‑ / λαβόμεθα , καὶ αὐτὸν ἀσπασάμενοι , προκατηρξάμε‑ / θα? ἐπερωτῶντες περὶ τοῦ ξένου θεάματος , καὶ}}
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{{graeca|λέγοντες · ἴσως εἶδες , γιε πάτερ , ὅπερ ἐω‑ / ράκαμεν ἐξαίσιον θαῦμα ; Ὁ δὲ · Ναὶ , ἀγα‑ / πητοί , ἐθεασάμην , ἔφη , καὶ λίαν ηὐφράνθην / ἐπὶ τ νίκῃ καὶ θαυματουργίᾳ τῆς ἁγνῆς / τοῦ Χριστοῦ ἀμνάδος , ἣν , αὐτς πολεμουμένης , / ἠδυνάμην? τοῖς λυσσῶσι μὴ παραδοῦναι χερ‑ / σί , ἀλλ' ἀναδεῖξαι γενναίαν αὐτὴν? πρό‑ / μαχον κατὰ τοῦ χαλεποῦ πολεμητοῦ · ὃ? / γὰρ καταισχύνει τοὺς προσφυγάς? , ἀλλὰ / ῥύεται αὐτοὺς? πάσης σατανικῆς προσβολῆς . / Εὐχαριστεῖτε? ἐν αὐτῷ διὰ παντὸς τῷ τὰς? / δόξας αὐτοῦ παντοίως μεγαλύναντι θαυμα‑ / σίοις . }}
{{graeca|96 Ἡμεῖς δὲ ταῦτα ἀκούσαντες , ὑπὲρ λίαν? / τεθαυμάκαμεν , καὶ αὐτὸν ἠρωτήσαμεν , εἴ‑ / περ ἔτι? ἐπιγνώσκομεν? αὐτάς ; Αὐτὸς δὲ ἔφη / πρὸς ἡμᾶς · Ἐπείπερ ὁ Θεὸς ὑμᾶς τὰς ἁ‑ / γίας ταύτας ἰδεῖν κατηξίωσε , καὶ μάρτυρας / πεποίηκε τοῦ δι' αὐτῶν ἀποτελεσθέντος φρικω‑ / δεστάτου θαύματος , μὴ θέλων τοιαύτην ἀρε‑ / τὴν κατακαλύψαι , ἀλλὰ δι' ὑμῶν ζητηθῆναι? , / καὶ πᾶσι γνωστὸν ποιήσασθαι , διὰ τοῦτο / ὑμῖν ἐπερωτῶσι τὸ γένος αὐτῶν ἐξαγορεῦσαί? , / ἵνα μᾶλλον καὶ μᾶλλον καταμάθητε τὸ σφν / ατῶν ἀρετῆς τὸ μέγεθος . Αὗται τῷ γένει / μέν εἰσι Ῥωμαῖαι , ἀρχόντων? ἢ πλουσίων καὶ / ἀρχόντων ὁρμώμεναι? · τοῦ δὲ πατρὸς τελευτήσαν‑ / τος , ἐνδόξου καὶ μεγίστου ἀνδρὸς ὑπάρχοντος , / τὰς δύο ταύτας θυγατέρας καταλείψαντος / ἐπὶ πολλος καὶ ἀναριθμήτοις κτήμασι , κατα‑ / φρονήσασαι …}}<noinclude><!-- -->
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minacibus verbis rationabiles Chriſti agnas perterrefacientes, ut metu ac trepidatione debilitatæ curſum ſiſtere, atque in manus eorum impuriſſimas incidere cogantur. Sed vicit enimvero providentiæ vis quædam ineffabilis, dum terribiles ab ipſis ſtupendaſque pœnas repetiit: nam puellis quidem tantam indidiſſe ſe agilitatem oſtendit, ut & velociſſimos cervos, capreaſque leviffimas curſu ſaltuque præverterent; & matrem ſenio venerandam, ſingulari providentiæ ratione, permiſit elabi, ac formidandam in ſceleratos ganeones vindictam exercuit.{{left sidenote|''Arabem, vim ſibi afferre conantem, igneo ſpiritus exectat & arefacit; orante interim pro ea S. Stephano;'' '''B'''}}
95 O miraculum ingens! O ſtuporem inuſitatum! Etiam nunc horreo totus & contremiſco, dilecte mi, quoties ſpectaculi tunc oblati myſterium recordor. Poſtquam etenim divinæ providentiæ numquam ſatis laudandæ beneficio anus illa ſancta evaſiſſet; impiorum Arabum unus, eam aſſecutus, per facros crines arripuit, furioſe ardens cæliſſimo ejus corpori vitium offerre. Itaque dum eam rurſum prorſum raptat, rabioſi inſtar canis, illa flammeum aërem, quo ſacrum ei os divinitus turgeſcebat, in faciem ejus belluinam evomuit, oculoſque exuſſit, & luxatum toto corpore, immotumque, ac ſtupentem reddidit; tum anilium membrorum excuſſa debilitate, generoſo curſu impuris neſarii hominis eluctata manibus, cariſſimas filias conſecuta eſt. Neque vero Stephanum ad aliena mala tam tenerum, hoc rerum articulo dormitantem videres, pugnæque à myſtico Amalec adverſus dilectam Chriſti oviculam concitatæ ſecurum; ſed fortiſſimè obnitentem, bellumque ex adverſo ſtrenuè gerentem, atque expanſis ad Chriſtum regem manibus in fugam avertentem hoſtes; ad quem mirabili hoc facto conterriti acceſſimus, præmiſſiſque urbanitatis officiis, quærere exorſi ſumus de inſolito hoc ſpectaculo, ac dicere: Num reſciſti forſitan, ſancte pater, ſingulare omnino, quod modo vidimus, miraculum? Cum ille: Sane, inquit, dilecti; ſpectavi equidem: atque gaviſus oppido ſum victoriâ, miroque factnore innocuæ Chriſti agnæ, quem ea decertante, ſum deprecatus, ne manibus traderetur inſenſis, ſed bellatoris inſeſti victricem eam generoſam exhiberet: neque enim confundit ille ad ſe confugientes; ſed à ſatanico quovis incurſu præſtat immunes. Itaque grates ei perſolvimus, qui famulos ſuos rebus prorſus admirandis illuſtrare non ceſſat.{{left sidenote|'''C'''}}
{{left sidenote|''à quo intelligunt, qui rem viderant, quænam ipſæ ſint.''}} 96 Auditis hiſce, vehementer obſtupuimus, & rogitavimus, ſi eas noſſet? Tum ille: Quandoquidem dignos vos Deus habuit, qui eas conſpiceretis, ac teſtes adhibuit patrati modo per illas prodigii tam terribilis, nolens in tenebris virtutem ejuſmodi deliteſcere, ſed velut columnis inciſam poſteris commendari per vos, ac notam omnibus fieri; propterea genus earum ſciſcitantibus vobis ediſſeram, quo magis magiſque virtutem pernoſcatis. Genere quidem Romanæ ſunt; nobiles, divites, ac magiſtratum gerentes habuêre majores: patre autem, viro, dum viveret, præclaro ac primante, qui utramque hanc filiam opulentis, immenſiſque locupletatam divitiis poſt ſe reliquit, vitâ functo, mater, ut quæ ſolum ante oculos Deum habebat, opibus contemptis, nun-
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{{graeca|… ἀπειλητικοῖς λόγοις ἐκφοβοῦντες τὰς τοῦ / Χριστοῦ λογικὰς ἀμνάδας , ἵνα τῷ φόβῳ καὶ τρό‑ / μῳ κεκτηθεῖσαι? , τοῦ δρόμου ἀπόσχωνται , ἢ / ταῖς ἀνόμοις αὐτῶν ἐμπέσωσι παλάμαις · / ἀλλ' ὄντως ἡ τοῦ Θεοῦ ῤητος προνοητικὴ / δύναμις ἐπεφανεῖτο? , φρικτῶς καὶ παρά‑ / δοξον ἐν αὐταῖς ἐργασαμένη τιμωρίαν · ταῖς / μὲν γὰρ κόραις ἀνέδειξεν ὡσεὶ ταχείας ἐλά‑ / φους , καὶ πηδητικὰς δορκάδας τρεχούσας / τε καὶ πηδώσας · τὴν δὲ γεραιὰν / καὶ αἰδέσιμον μητέρα , κατά τινα ἔννοιαν? / ἐξαίσιον τρόπον ἐξολισθῆσαι παραχωρήσασα , / φοβερὰν ἐκδίκησιν ἐν τοῖς ἀθέοις πεποίηκεν . }}
{{graeca|95 Ὦ τὸ μέγα θαῦμα ! ὦ τὸ ξέ‑ / νης ἐκπλήξεως ! φρίττω ἢ τρέμω , μεμνη‑ / μένος , ἀγαπητέ , τοῦ τότε ὀφθέντος θεάμα‑ / τος τὸ μυστήριον · τὴν δὲ ἁγίαν γραῦν ἐκείνην? / ἐξολισθῆσαι παραχωρήσασα ἡ ἄφατος πρό‑}}
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{{graeca|νοια τοῦ Θεοῦ , εἰς τὸ? ἀνόμων Ἀράβων? κατα‑ / φθάσας , τῆς ἱερᾶς κόμης ἐλάβετο , τὸ ἀγνὸν / αὐτῆς καταχρᾶσθαι σῶμα μανικῶς βουλόμενος . / Ὡς δὲ , κυνὸς δίκην λυσσῶντος , εἵλκε τε καὶ ἀν‑ / θέλκετο , τὸ ὅσιον αὐτῆς σῶμα φλογώδους / ἀέρος πληρώσασα , τῇ θηριώδει αὐτοῦ προσώ‑ / πῳ ἐπεφύσησε , καὶ τὰς ὄψεις ἐτύφλωσε , καὶ / πηρὸν λον καὶ ἀκίνητον καὶ ἀποπληκτικὸν κα‑ / τέστησε , καὶ τὴν σωματικὴν ἀποτιναξαμένη / ἀσθένειαν , γενναίῳ δρόμῳ ταῖς φίλαις θυγα‑ / τράσι ἕπετο , τὰς μιαρὰς τοῦ ἀσεβοῦς φυγοῦ‑ / σα χεῖρας . Καὶ τότε οὐκ ἂν ἴδοις τὸν συμ‑ / παθῆ Στέφανον νυστάζοντα , καὶ τὸ πρὸς τὴν / φίλην τοῦ Χριστοῦ ἀμνάδα ἐν νοητῇ ἀμάλῃ? / μάχῃ ἀμελοῦντα , ἀλλὰ γενναίως πάνυ ἀν‑ / τιπαρατασσόμενόν τε καὶ ἀντιπαρατασσόμενον? , / τῇ πρὸς τὸν ἄνακτα Χριστὸν τὰς χεῖρας ἐκτείνων? / τοὺς ἐχθροὺς ἀποτρέποντα , πρὸς ὃν ἐκ‑ / θαμβηθέντες τῷ παραδόξῳ θαύματι κατε‑ / λαβόμεθα , καὶ αὐτὸν ἀσπασάμενοι , προκατηρξάμε‑ / θα? ἐπερωτῶντες περὶ τοῦ ξένου θεάματος , καὶ}}
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{{graeca|λέγοντες · ἴσως εἶδες , γιε πάτερ , ὅπερ ἐω‑ / ράκαμεν ἐξαίσιον θαῦμα ; Ὁ δὲ · Ναὶ , ἀγα‑ / πητοί , ἐθεασάμην , ἔφη , καὶ λίαν ηὐφράνθην / ἐπὶ τ νίκῃ καὶ θαυματουργίᾳ τῆς ἁγνῆς / τοῦ Χριστοῦ ἀμνάδος , ἣν , αὐτς πολεμουμένης , / ἠδυνάμην? τοῖς λυσσῶσι μὴ παραδοῦναι χερ‑ / σί , ἀλλ' ἀναδεῖξαι γενναίαν αὐτὴν? πρό‑ / μαχον κατὰ τοῦ χαλεποῦ πολεμητοῦ · ὃ? / γὰρ καταισχύνει τοὺς προσφυγάς? , ἀλλὰ / ῥύεται αὐτοὺς? πάσης σατανικῆς προσβολῆς . / Εὐχαριστεῖτε? ἐν αὐτῷ διὰ παντὸς τῷ τὰς? / δόξας αὐτοῦ παντοίως μεγαλύναντι θαυμα‑ / σίοις . }}
{{graeca|96 Ἡμεῖς δὲ ταῦτα ἀκούσαντες , ὑπὲρ λίαν? / τεθαυμάκαμεν , καὶ αὐτὸν ἠρωτήσαμεν , εἴ‑ / περ ἔτι? ἐπιγνώσκομεν? αὐτάς ; Αὐτὸς δὲ ἔφη / πρὸς ἡμᾶς · Ἐπείπερ ὁ Θεὸς ὑμᾶς τὰς ἁ‑ / γίας ταύτας ἰδεῖν κατηξίωσε , καὶ μάρτυρας / πεποίηκε τοῦ δι' αὐτῶν ἀποτελεσθέντος φρικω‑ / δεστάτου θαύματος , μὴ θέλων τοιαύτην ἀρε‑ / τὴν κατακαλύψαι , ἀλλὰ δι' ὑμῶν ζητηθῆναι? , / καὶ πᾶσι γνωστὸν ποιήσασθαι , διὰ τοῦτο / ὑμῖν ἐπερωτῶσι τὸ γένος αὐτῶν ἐξαγορεῦσαί? , / ἵνα μᾶλλον καὶ μᾶλλον καταμάθητε τὸ σφν / ατῶν ἀρετῆς τὸ μέγεθος . Αὗται τῷ γένει / μέν εἰσι Ῥωμαῖαι , ἀρχόντων? ἢ πλουσίων καὶ / ἀρχόντων ὁρμώμεναι? · τοῦ δὲ πατρὸς τελευτήσαν‑ / τος , ἐνδόξου καὶ μεγίστου ἀνδρὸς ὑπάρχοντος , / τὰς δύο ταύτας θυγατέρας καταλείψαντος / ἐπὶ πολλος καὶ ἀναριθμήτοις κτήμασι , κατα‑ / φρονήσασαι …}}<noinclude><!-- -->
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{{graeca|φρονήσασα πάντων ἡ μήτηρ , θεόφρων ἅπαξ? ζωῆς / τοῖς βιωτικοῖς ὑποταξαμένη? , μετὰ τούτων τῶν ἑαυ‑ / τῆς θυγατέρων γυμνὴ καὶ ἀκτήμων τὸν μονήρη / μετῆλθε βίον , καὶ , πόθεν οὐκ οἶδα , περὶ τῶν / ἡμῶν ἐλαχίστων ἀκούσασα , παρεγένετο ἐν‑ / ταῦθα καὶ ἐνέτυχέ μοι? , καὶ ταῦτά μοι διηγή‑ / σατο · ἡ δὲ τριάκοντα ἔτη χρόνον ἔχει ἐν τῇ / ἐρήμῳ ταύτῃ ἀγγελικῶς τῷ Θεῷ λατρεύουσα σὺν / ταῖς ἑαυτῆς ἁγνῶς παρθενευούσαις θυγατράσι .}}
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{{graeca|97 Τούτων δὲ σὺν προσοχῇ μῶν ἀκρο‑ / ωμένων πρὸς τὸν θεοφόρον Γέροντα , ἀθρόως ἀ‑ / φίκοντο οἱ Ἀραβῆται , ὑποζυγίῳ ἐπιβιβά‑ / σαντες τὸ πηρωθέντα τε καὶ ξηρανθέντα τὸν ἀθλίον ἐκεῖνον , καὶ πολλὰ παρεκάλουν τὸν Γέ‑ / ροντα περὶ τῆς θεραπείας αὐτοῦ καὶ ῥώσεως , / λέγοντες · Πρόφθασον ἡμᾶς , ἅγιε Στέφανε , / τοῖς ἴχνεσί σε προσπίπτοντας · πεπόνθαμεν γὰρ / σήμερον λυσφόρητον ὑπό τινων παραδραμού‑ / σων μοναχίδων? · μία γὰρ αὐτν τὸ τέκνον , ὡς / ὁρᾷς , ὡς λίθον ἀναίσθητον , ἄνον καὶ ἄναυ‑ / δον κατέστησεν , ἀτόπως? αὐτῷ ἐπιῤῥέασαι? θε‑ / λήσασα . Ἐλέησον δὲ αὐτὸν , καὶ πάντας / ἡμᾶς , φιλοτιμήθητι? , σοὺς τοὺς γείτονας · οἴ‑ / δαμεν γὰρ , ὅτι ὅ, τι ἂν αἰτήσῃς σ τὸν Θεόν σου? / εἰς ὅ, τι ἂν ατήσς αὐτόν . Ὁ δὲ ἀποκρι‑ / θεὶς ἔφη πρὸς αὐτούς · Τοῦτο? οὐκ ᾶται / Θεὸς εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα , ἐπειδὴ τῆς γνησίας / αὐτοῦ δούλης κατεφρόνησε? , καὶ μιᾶναι? ἤλ‑ / πισεν . Ὅθεν ἐπλήξεν? αὐτὸν πληγῇ ἀνιά‑ / τῳ , ? τὸ ἀνώμαλον τῷ Θεῷ περὶ τοῦτο λυ‑ / σιτελῆσαι? · οὐχ ἕξει γὰρ ποτε θεραπείαν . Λοι‑ / πὸν πορευθέντες παιδεύθητε , ἀφ' ὧν ἐπάθετε , μη‑ / κέτι ἅπτεσθαι τῶν χριστῶν κυρίου , μήτε ἐν / τοῖς ἀγίοις αὐτοῦ πονηρεύεσθαι · σκεπαστής? δὲ / αὐτῶν ὑπάρχει , καὶ σιωδίτης? , καὶ ἀντέρμαχος? · / Ταῦτα δὲ αὐτοῦ εἰρηκότος , αὐτοὶ μὲν / τεθλιμμένοι καὶ κατησχυμμένοι ἀνεχώρησαν · / ἡμες δὲ γενηθέντες? ἅμα κα τεθηπότες ἐπὶ τῷ / ξένῳ θαύματι , ἀνεκάμψαμεν , τὰς ἁγίας τοῦ / Γέροντος ἐφοδιασθέντες ὁμιλίας τε καὶ εὐχάς · / καὶ μετ' οὐ πολὺ ἀκηκόαμεν , ὅτι τριῶν μό‑ / νον ἐπέζησεν ἡμερῶν ὁ παράνομος ἐκεῖνος , / καὶ τὰς πύλας τοῦ ᾅδου ἐπέρασεν? εἰς ἀλγει‑ / νὸν καὶ αἰώνιον κόλασιν τιμωρεῖσθαι , εἰς σω‑ / φρονισμὸν πολλῶν ἐνταῦθα ὑπὸ τῆς τοῦ κυ‑ / ρίου δικαίας κρίσεως , ᾧ δόξα εἰς τοὺς / αἰῶνας .}}
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{{graeca|98 Ἄλλος δέ τις εὐλαβὴς μοναχὸς διηγήσατό / μοι λέγων · ὅτι ποτέ , τοῦ ὁσίου Γέροντος τὴν / ἔρημον περιπολοῦντος , Ἄραβες ἐφιβόλοι? ἄνδρες / κατ' ἐκείνην τὴν ἔρημον , ὅπερ? τότε διέτριβεν , / ἐδίωκον ἔλαφον · ἥτις ἀτυχήσασα? καὶ ὑποκαμοῦσα / ὑπὸ τῆς? τῶν θηρευτῶν διωκομένη , τοῖς κόλποις τοῦ ‑ / γίου Γέροντος προσέφυγεν , οἷά τις λογικὴ τὰ / ἴχνη αὐτοῦ καταφιλοῦσά τε καὶ ἐκλιπαροῦσα τὴν? ἐκ τῶν? / θηρευτῶν ἐλευθερῶσαι? δεσμῶν . Πρὸς ὅ? ὁ συμ‑ / παθέστατος Γέρων ὀνομαστὶ ἔφη παρακαλῶν · Χα‑ / ρίσασθέ μοι ταύτην , ὦ θηρευταί , ἐπειδή μοι / προσέφυγε , καὶ τῆς ἐμῆς ἐδεήθη πρὸς ὑμᾶς συν‑ / εργίας . Οἱ δὲ τὴν ἔλαφον θεασάμενοι τῷ Γέ‑ / ροντι παρεσαμβίω? , καὶ τὴν ἑαυτῆς κεφαλὴν / τοῖς κόλποις αὐτοῦ ἐντεθηκυῖαν , πάνυ κατεπλά‑ / γησαν , καὶ αὐτῷ τῷ Γέροντι χαρισάμενοι ὑπέ‑ / στρεψαν , τὴν τῶν Χριστιανῶν πίστιν ἐπαινέσαντες . / Ἐγὼ δὲ παρά τινος μαθητεύσαντος τῷ ἁγί Γέ‑ / ροντι , ἀξιοπίστου? πεφυκότος , ταῦτα ἀκούσας , ὕμνον / τῷ Θεῷ ἀνέπεμψα .}}
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97 Dum attentas narranti hæc deifero Seni præbemus aures, adſunt repente Arabes, infeliciſſimum illum oculis ac membris omnibus captum, jumento impoſitum adducentes; múltiſque precibus obſecrant Senem, ut priſtinam huic valetudinem ac vires impetret, dicentes: Succurre nobis, ſancte Stephane, ad genua tua proſtratis: intolerabile namque eſt malum, quod à prætercurrentibus quibuſdam monialibus illatum eſt nobis: nam hunc hominem earum una, dum illam ſubagitare tentat protervius, ita, ut vides, ſenſus, motus, vocis, inſtar lapidis expertem reddidit. Eia igitur, Vir benedicte, illius te miſereat atque omnium noſtrum, vicinorum tuorum: ſcimus enim; quaſcumque Deo preces obtuleris, irritas illas eſſe non patietur. Quibus ille ſubjecit: Iſtud quidem Deus non concedet in æternum, poſtquàm in ancillam verè ſuam inſanitâ licentiâ debacchatus, violare illam etiam ſperavit. Unde percuſſit eum plagâ inſanabili, quam ego apud Deum deprecari non poſſum; neque enim umquam convaleſcet. Ceterum hinc abeuntes diſcite ex iis, quæ modo paſſi eſtis, Chriſtos Domini nunquam tangere, neque malignari iſti ſanctos ejus: protector enim eorum eſt, & comes, & propugnator. Cum hæc dixiſſet, afflicti illi ac pudore ſuffuſi receperunt ſeſe: nos vero ad inuſitatum hoc miraculum læti ſimul ac ſtupentes reverſi ſumus, ſanctiſſimi Senis admonitionibus & piis votis ad iter comparati: neque diu poſt accepimus, tres tantummodo dies ſceleratum illum ſupervixiſſe, atque inferorum adiſſe portas, nunquam intermittentes ſempiternaſque pœnas daturum, ad multorum exemplum, quo à juſto Dei judicio metuere hic ſibi doceantur, cui gloria in ſecula.{{right sidenote|'''F'''}}
98 Pius item alius monachus retulit mihi, quemadmodum Sene eremum aliquando obeunte, jaculatores quidam viri Arabes per ſolitudinem, in qua tum verſabatur, cervam inſectarentur, quæ fatiſcens atque à prementibus venatoribus delaſſata ad ſinum ſancti Senis confugit, veſtigia ejus, non ſecus ac ſi ratione eſſet prædita, exoſculans, & obſecrans, ut ſic loquar, uti ſe venatorum inſidiis liberaret. Ad quos commiſerantiſſimus Senex, nomine quemque compellans ac deprecans, ait: Donate hanc mihi, venatores, cum ad me refugerit, opemque apud vos meam imploraverit. Ille autem adſultantem Seni cervam, caputque in ſinum ejus abdentem conſpicati, obſtupuere, eâque Seni ultro conceſſâ, digreſſi ſunt, Chriſtianorum fidem extollentes. Ego vero, ubi hæc ex homine fide digno, & ſancti Senis olim diſcipulo, intellexi, Deo laudes perſolvi.{{right sidenote|''Cervam à venatoribus liberat.''}}
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{{graeca|φρονήσασα πάντων ἡ μήτηρ , θεόφρων ἅπαξ? ζωῆς / τοῖς βιωτικοῖς ὑποταξαμένη? , μετὰ τούτων τῶν ἑαυ‑ / τῆς θυγατέρων γυμνὴ καὶ ἀκτήμων τὸν μονήρη / μετῆλθε βίον , καὶ , πόθεν οὐκ οἶδα , περὶ τῶν / ἡμῶν ἐλαχίστων ἀκούσασα , παρεγένετο ἐν‑ / ταῦθα καὶ ἐνέτυχέ μοι? , καὶ ταῦτά μοι διηγή‑ / σατο · ἡ δὲ τριάκοντα ἔτη χρόνον ἔχει ἐν τῇ / ἐρήμῳ ταύτῃ ἀγγελικῶς τῷ Θεῷ λατρεύουσα σὺν / ταῖς ἑαυτῆς ἁγνῶς παρθενευούσαις θυγατράσι .}}
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{{graeca|97 Τούτων δὲ σὺν προσοχῇ μῶν ἀκρο‑ / ωμένων πρὸς τὸν θεοφόρον Γέροντα , ἀθρόως ἀ‑ / φίκοντο οἱ Ἀραβῆται , ὑποζυγίῳ ἐπιβιβά‑ / σαντες τὸ πηρωθέντα τε καὶ ξηρανθέντα τὸν ἀθλίον ἐκεῖνον , καὶ πολλὰ παρεκάλουν τὸν Γέ‑ / ροντα περὶ τῆς θεραπείας αὐτοῦ καὶ ῥώσεως , / λέγοντες · Πρόφθασον ἡμᾶς , ἅγιε Στέφανε , / τοῖς ἴχνεσί σε προσπίπτοντας · πεπόνθαμεν γὰρ / σήμερον λυσφόρητον ὑπό τινων παραδραμού‑ / σων μοναχίδων? · μία γὰρ αὐτν τὸ τέκνον , ὡς / ὁρᾷς , ὡς λίθον ἀναίσθητον , ἄνον καὶ ἄναυ‑ / δον κατέστησεν , ἀτόπως? αὐτῷ ἐπιῤῥέασαι? θε‑ / λήσασα . Ἐλέησον δὲ αὐτὸν , καὶ πάντας / ἡμᾶς , φιλοτιμήθητι? , σοὺς τοὺς γείτονας · οἴ‑ / δαμεν γὰρ , ὅτι ὅ, τι ἂν αἰτήσῃς σ τὸν Θεόν σου? / εἰς ὅ, τι ἂν ατήσς αὐτόν . Ὁ δὲ ἀποκρι‑ / θεὶς ἔφη πρὸς αὐτούς · Τοῦτο? οὐκ ᾶται / Θεὸς εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα , ἐπειδὴ τῆς γνησίας / αὐτοῦ δούλης κατεφρόνησε? , καὶ μιᾶναι? ἤλ‑ / πισεν . Ὅθεν ἐπλήξεν? αὐτὸν πληγῇ ἀνιά‑ / τῳ , ? τὸ ἀνώμαλον τῷ Θεῷ περὶ τοῦτο λυ‑ / σιτελῆσαι? · οὐχ ἕξει γὰρ ποτε θεραπείαν . Λοι‑ / πὸν πορευθέντες παιδεύθητε , ἀφ' ὧν ἐπάθετε , μη‑ / κέτι ἅπτεσθαι τῶν χριστῶν κυρίου , μήτε ἐν / τοῖς ἀγίοις αὐτοῦ πονηρεύεσθαι · σκεπαστής? δὲ / αὐτῶν ὑπάρχει , καὶ σιωδίτης? , καὶ ἀντέρμαχος? · / Ταῦτα δὲ αὐτοῦ εἰρηκότος , αὐτοὶ μὲν / τεθλιμμένοι καὶ κατησχυμμένοι ἀνεχώρησαν · / ἡμες δὲ γενηθέντες? ἅμα κα τεθηπότες ἐπὶ τῷ / ξένῳ θαύματι , ἀνεκάμψαμεν , τὰς ἁγίας τοῦ / Γέροντος ἐφοδιασθέντες ὁμιλίας τε καὶ εὐχάς · / καὶ μετ' οὐ πολὺ ἀκηκόαμεν , ὅτι τριῶν μό‑ / νον ἐπέζησεν ἡμερῶν ὁ παράνομος ἐκεῖνος , / καὶ τὰς πύλας τοῦ ᾅδου ἐπέρασεν? εἰς ἀλγει‑ / νὸν καὶ αἰώνιον κόλασιν τιμωρεῖσθαι , εἰς σω‑ / φρονισμὸν πολλῶν ἐνταῦθα ὑπὸ τῆς τοῦ κυ‑ / ρίου δικαίας κρίσεως , ᾧ δόξα εἰς τοὺς / αἰῶνας .}}
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{{graeca|98 Ἄλλος δέ τις εὐλαβὴς μοναχὸς διηγήσατό / μοι λέγων · ὅτι ποτέ , τοῦ ὁσίου Γέροντος τὴν / ἔρημον περιπολοῦντος , Ἄραβες ἐφιβόλοι? ἄνδρες / κατ' ἐκείνην τὴν ἔρημον , ὅπερ? τότε διέτριβεν , / ἐδίωκον ἔλαφον · ἥτις ἀτυχήσασα? καὶ ὑποκαμοῦσα / ὑπὸ τῆς? τῶν θηρευτῶν διωκομένη , τοῖς κόλποις τοῦ ‑ / γίου Γέροντος προσέφυγεν , οἷά τις λογικὴ τὰ / ἴχνη αὐτοῦ καταφιλοῦσά τε καὶ ἐκλιπαροῦσα τὴν? ἐκ τῶν? / θηρευτῶν ἐλευθερῶσαι? δεσμῶν . Πρὸς ὅ? ὁ συμ‑ / παθέστατος Γέρων ὀνομαστὶ ἔφη παρακαλῶν · Χα‑ / ρίσασθέ μοι ταύτην , ὦ θηρευταί , ἐπειδή μοι / προσέφυγε , καὶ τῆς ἐμῆς ἐδεήθη πρὸς ὑμᾶς συν‑ / εργίας . Οἱ δὲ τὴν ἔλαφον θεασάμενοι τῷ Γέ‑ / ροντι παρεσαμβίω? , καὶ τὴν ἑαυτῆς κεφαλὴν / τοῖς κόλποις αὐτοῦ ἐντεθηκυῖαν , πάνυ κατεπλά‑ / γησαν , καὶ αὐτῷ τῷ Γέροντι χαρισάμενοι ὑπέ‑ / στρεψαν , τὴν τῶν Χριστιανῶν πίστιν ἐπαινέσαντες . / Ἐγὼ δὲ παρά τινος μαθητεύσαντος τῷ ἁγί Γέ‑ / ροντι , ἀξιοπίστου? πεφυκότος , ταῦτα ἀκούσας , ὕμνον / τῷ Θεῷ ἀνέπεμψα .}}
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…cioque rebus hujus vitæ remisso, nuda atque omni possessione exuta, ad solitariam hanc vitam cum gemina hac filia sua adjecit animum. Cumque de minimis nobis (unde, nescio) inaudisset, huc venit, me ut inviseret, ac jam dicta exposuit: atque ecce, in hac eremo, cum filia utraque illibatam servante virginitatem, angelicum in morem Deo ancillata, annum jam explevit trigesimum.
97 Dum attentas narranti hæc deifero Seni præbemus aures, adsunt repente Arabes, infelicissimum illum oculis ac membris omnibus captum, jumento impositum adducentes; multisque precibus obsecrant Senem, ut pristinam huic valetudinem ac vires impetret, dicentes: Succurre nobis, sancte Stephane, ad genua tua prostratis: intolerabile namque est malum, quod à prætercurrentibus quibusdam monialibus illatum est nobis: nam hunc hominem earum una, dum illam subagitare tentat protervius, ita, ut vides, {{right sidenote|'''E'''}} sensus, motûs, vocis, instar lapidis expertem reddidit. Eia igitur, Vir benedicte, illius te misereat atque omnium nostrum, vicinorum tuorum: scimus enim; quascumque Deo preces obtuleris, irritas illas esse non patietur. Quibus ille subjecit: Istud quidem Deus non concedet in æternum, postquam in ancillam verè suam infrunitâ licentiâ debacchatus, violare illam etiam speravit. Unde percussit eum plagâ insanabili, quam ego apud Deum deprecari non possum; neque enim umquam convalescet. Ceterum hinc abeuntes discite ex iis, quæ modo passi estis, Christos Domini numquam tangere, neque malignari in sanctos ejus: protector enim eorum est, & comes, & propugnator. Cum hæc dixisset, afflicti illi ac pudore suffusi receperunt sese: nos vero ad inusitatum hoc miraculum læti simul ac stupentes reversi sumus, sanctissimi Senis admonitionibus & piis votis ad iter comparati: neque diu post accepimus, tres tantummodo dies sceleratum illum supervixisse, atque inferorum adiisse portas, numquam intermittentes sempiternasque pœnas daturum, {{right sidenote|'''F'''}} ad multorum exemplum, quo à justo Dei judicio metuere hîc sibi doceantur, cui gloria in secula.
98 Pius item alius monachus retulit mihi, {{right sidenote|''Cervam à venatoribus liberat.''}} quemadmodum Sene eremum aliquando obeunte, jaculatores quidam viri Arabes per solitudinem, in qua tum versabatur, cervam insectarentur, quæ fatiscens atque à prementibus venatoribus delassata ad sinum sancti Senis confugit, vestigia ejus, non secus ac si ratione esset prædita, exosculans, & obsecrans, ut sic loquar, uti se venatorum insidiis liberaret. Ad quos commiserantissimus Senex, nomine quemque compellans ac deprecans, ait: Donate hanc mihi, venatores, cum ad me refugerit, opemque apud vos meam imploraverit. Ille autem adstantem Seni cervam, caputque in sinum ejus abdentem conspicati, obstupuere, eâque Seni ultro concessâ, digressi sunt, Christianorum fidem extollentes. Ego vero, ubi hæc ex homine fide digno, & sancti Senis olim discipulo, intellexi, Deo laudes persolvi.
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|40|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude><section begin="# capitulumii #"/>Sed vela contrahenda {{s}}unt. Quor{{s}}um qu{{ae}}{{s}}o omnes hi tituli, quorum h{{ae}}c e{{s}}t elogía? ni{{s}}i amorem, honorem, pretium, & reverentiam c{{ae}}le{{s}}tis doctrin{{ae}} mini{{s}}terio concilient. nève pa{{s}}tores {{s}}uâ dignitate in{{s}}ole{{s}}cant, cogitent {{s}}e, non Dominos gregis e{{s}}{{s}}e, {{s}}ed Mini{{s}}tros; nec h{{ae}}c nomina accepi{{s}}{{s}}e ad quietem & otium, {{s}}ed ad laborem, ut inveniantur in opere, quod {{s}}ignantur in nomine: {{s}}uâ{{que}} {{s}}ibi dona data e{{s}}{{s}}e, non propter {{s}}e, {{s}}ed ut ea aliis di{{s}}pen{{s}}ent; meminerint{{que}} Deum hujus di{{s}}pen{{s}}ationis exactam ab eis rationem exacturum. {{marginalia dextra|V. Plura in Appendice The{{s}}auri D. Ravanel. p. 182.}}
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''Egimus hactenus de honorificis Sacri Mini{{s}}terii titulis. Re{{s}}tat nunc ut ad argumenta & rationes quibus ejus nece{{s}}{{s}}itas & efficacia evincitur, de{{s}}cendamus.''
1. Patet S. Mini{{s}}terii nece{{s}}{{s}}itas, à Dei mandato. Marc. 16.15. pr{{ae}}dicate Evangelium omni creatur{{ae}}. (1.) omni rationali creatur{{ae}}, vel omnibus gentibus. Matth. 28, 19. Act. 10, 42. hinc Apo{{s}}tolus jamjam moriturus, Timotheum adjurat ut opportunè & importunè Evangelium pr{{ae}}- {{marginalia dextra|Synod. Geneven{{s}}. genus appropriatur nobilissimae Speciei. 1. homini. L. Vbi vir generis & authoritate pol.}}
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|40|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude><section begin="capitulumii"/>Sed vela contrahenda {{s}}unt. Quor{{s}}um qu{{ae}}{{s}}o omnes hi tituli, quorum h{{ae}}c e{{s}}t elogía? ni{{s}}i amorem, honorem, pretium, & reverentiam c{{ae}}le{{s}}tis doctrin{{ae}} mini{{s}}terio concilient. nève pa{{s}}tores {{s}}uâ dignitate in{{s}}ole{{s}}cant, cogitent {{s}}e, non Dominos gregis e{{s}}{{s}}e, {{s}}ed Mini{{s}}tros; nec h{{ae}}c nomina accepi{{s}}{{s}}e ad quietem & otium, {{s}}ed ad laborem, ut inveniantur in opere, quod {{s}}ignantur in nomine: {{s}}uâ{{que}} {{s}}ibi dona data e{{s}}{{s}}e, non propter {{s}}e, {{s}}ed ut ea aliis di{{s}}pen{{s}}ent; meminerint{{que}} Deum hujus di{{s}}pen{{s}}ationis exactam ab eis rationem exacturum. {{marginalia dextra|V. Plura in Appendice The{{s}}auri D. Ravanel. p. 182.}}
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''Egimus hactenus de honorificis Sacri Mini{{s}}terii titulis. Re{{s}}tat nunc ut ad argumenta & rationes quibus ejus nece{{s}}{{s}}itas & efficacia evincitur, de{{s}}cendamus.''
1. Patet S. Mini{{s}}terii nece{{s}}{{s}}itas, à Dei mandato. Marc. 16.15. pr{{ae}}dicate Evangelium omni creatur{{ae}}. (1.) omni rationali creatur{{ae}}, vel omnibus gentibus. Matth. 28, 19. Act. 10, 42. hinc Apo{{s}}tolus jamjam moriturus, Timotheum adjurat ut opportunè & importunè Evangelium pr{{ae}}- {{marginalia dextra|Synod. Geneven{{s}}. genus appropriatur nobilissimae Speciei. 1. homini. L. Vbi vir generis & authoritate pol.}}
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|45|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude>ab{{s}}{{que}} Deo. 2. Paralip. 15,3. {{et}} ab{{s}}{{que}} Chri{{s}}to, Ephe{{s}}. 2,12. ce{{s}}{{s}}ante verbi mini{{s}}terio populus {{s}}tatim fit rebellis. Exod. 32,1. ab{{s}}ente Mo{{s}}e dies tantùm 40. vitulum aureum con{{s}}tant I{{s}}raelit{{ae}} {{et}} adorant. Di{{s}}cedente Paulo {{s}}urgunt lupi. Act. 20,29. ubi non e{{s}}t vi{{s}}io (1) ce{{s}}{{s}}ante publico verbi Mini{{s}}terio, denudatur populus. Prov. 29,18. ubi Pharangh, varias habet ver{{s}}iones. 1. {{s}}ignificat denudare. Num. 5,18. ita {{s}}ublatâ verbi pr{{ae}}dicatione populus denudatur verâ {{et}} {{s}}alutari Dei cognitione, fide, amore {{et}} armaturâ Dei, unà cum protectione {{et}} tutelâ ejus. 2. Rebellare, qui verbi Mini{{s}}terio carent, hi rebelles {{et}} inobedientes {{s}}unt Deo {{et}} hominibus, hoc enim civili pote{{s}}tati non officit, {{s}}ed {{s}}tabilit. 3. feriari, tolle hoc, {{et}} {{s}}tatim feriantur populi, {{et}} à {{s}}tudio bonorum operum ce{{s}}{{s}}ant. 4. Di{{s}}{{s}}ipare {{et}} {{s}}eparare, ubi non e{{s}}t vi{{s}}io, ibi populi à {{s}}e invicem {{s}}{{ae}}vis inimicitiis {{s}}eparantur, {{et}} variis erroribus di{{s}}{{s}}ipantur, in{{s}}tar ovium nullum habentium Pa{{s}}torem. Matth. 9,36. nam ut deficiente rege in I{{s}}raele, qui{{s}}{{que}} quod rectum videbatur in oculis {{s}}uis faciebant. [Judic. 17,6.] ita deficiente Pa{{s}}tore unu{{s}}{{que}}{{s}}{{que}} propriam {{s}}equitur phanta{{s}}iam. Hi {{s}}unt nonnulli fructus qui à DEO per verbi mini{{s}}terium humano generi communicantur; ideo{{que}} {{s}}ingulari honore {{et}}
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|45|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude>ab{{s}}{{que}} Deo. 2. Paralip. 15,3. {{et}} ab{{s}}{{que}} Chri{{s}}to, Ephe{{s}}. 2,12. ce{{s}}{{s}}ante verbi mini{{s}}terio populus {{s}}tatim fit rebellis. Exod. 32,1. ab{{s}}ente Mo{{s}}e dies tantùm 40. vitulum aureum con{{s}}tant I{{s}}raelit{{ae}} {{et}} adorant. Di{{s}}cedente Paulo {{s}}urgunt lupi. Act. 20,29. ubi non e{{s}}t vi{{s}}io (1) ce{{s}}{{s}}ante publico verbi Mini{{s}}terio, denudatur populus. Prov. 29,18. ubi Pharangh, varias habet ver{{s}}iones. 1. {{s}}ignificat denudare. Num. 5,18. ita {{s}}ublatâ verbi pr{{ae}}dicatione populus denudatur verâ{{marginalia dextra|nudavit, rebellavit, ce{{s}}{{s}}avit, retroce{{s}}{{s}}it, defe{{s}}cit. Pagnin. alius {{et}}c.}} {{et}} {{s}}alutari Dei cognitione, fide, amore {{et}} armaturâ Dei, unà cum protectione {{et}} tutelâ ejus. 2. Rebellare, qui verbi Mini{{s}}terio carent, hi rebelles {{et}} inobedientes {{s}}unt Deo {{et}} hominibus, hoc enim civili pote{{s}}tati non officit, {{s}}ed {{s}}tabilit. 3. feriari, tolle hoc, {{et}} {{s}}tatim feriantur populi, {{et}} à {{s}}tudio bonorum operum ce{{s}}{{s}}ant. 4. Di{{s}}{{s}}ipare {{et}} {{s}}eparare, ubi non e{{s}}t vi{{s}}io, ibi populi à {{s}}e invicem {{s}}{{ae}}vis inimicitiis {{s}}eparantur, {{et}} variis erroribus di{{s}}{{s}}ipantur, in{{s}}tar ovium nullum habentium Pa{{s}}torem. Matth. 9,36. nam ut deficiente rege in I{{s}}raele, qui{{s}}{{que}} quod rectum videbatur in oculis {{s}}uis faciebant. [Judic. 17,6.] ita deficiente Pa{{s}}tore unu{{s}}{{que}}{{s}}{{que}} propriam {{s}}equitur phanta{{s}}iam. Hi {{s}}unt nonnulli fructus qui à DEO per verbi mini{{s}}terium humano generi communicantur; ideo{{que}} {{s}}ingulari honore {{et}}<noinclude></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|46|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude><section begin="capitulumiii"/>amore digni{{s}}{{s}}imum e{{s}}t. Philip. 2. v. 29. 1. The{{s}}{{s}}. 5,13.
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<section begin="capitulumiv"/>== Cap. IV. ==
''Tradit explicationem & demon{{s}}trationem evidenti{{s}}{{s}}imâ The{{s}}i jam ad Hypothe{{s}}in, à Doctrina ad u{{s}}um & applicationem properamus. Eliciuntur hinc quatuor plurima Con{{s}}ectaria & Corollaria.''
1. ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, & informationem.
2. ad {{graeca|κατήχησιν}}, & in{{s}}tructionem.
3. ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, & con{{s}}olationem.
4. ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}, & reprehen{{s}}ionem.
5. ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}, & hortationem.
1. O{{s}}tenditur Mini{{s}}terium dari Eccle{{s}}ia{{s}}ticum, quorum enim tot non {{s}}olum nomina, {{s}}ed etiam in{{s}}ignes tituli & celeberrima elogia in S. Scriptura huic ordini a{{s}}{{s}}ignantur, {{s}}i in Eccle{{s}}ia talis quidem ordo non extaret? neque Mini{{s}}terium hoc duraturum e{{s}}t, in men{{s}}em, annum vel unum {{s}}{{ae}}culum (ut {{s}}omniant fanatici) {{s}}ed u{{s}}{{que}} ad finem mundi. Quod {{s}}equentibus argumentis manife{{s}}tum fiet. 1. {{graeca|κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando. 2. {{graeca|ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabapti{{s}}tarum l{{ae}}re{{s}}ias refellendo.
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<section begin="capitulumiv"/>{{xx-larger|{{c|Cap. IV.}}}}
''Tradit explicationem & demon{{s}}trationem evidenti{{s}}{{s}}imâ The{{s}}i jam ad Hypothe{{s}}in, à Doctrina ad u{{s}}um & applicationem properamus. Eliciuntur hinc quatuor plurima Con{{s}}ectaria & Corollaria.''
1. ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, & informationem.
2. ad {{graeca|κατήχησιν}}, & in{{s}}tructionem.
3. ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, & con{{s}}olationem.
4. ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}, & reprehen{{s}}ionem.
5. ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}, & hortationem.
1. O{{s}}tenditur Mini{{s}}terium dari Eccle{{s}}ia{{s}}ticum, quorum enim tot non {{s}}olum nomina, {{s}}ed etiam in{{s}}ignes tituli & celeberrima elogia in S. Scriptura huic ordini a{{s}}{{s}}ignantur, {{s}}i in Eccle{{s}}ia talis quidem ordo non extaret? neque Mini{{s}}terium hoc duraturum e{{s}}t, in men{{s}}em, annum vel unum {{s}}{{ae}}culum (ut {{s}}omniant fanatici) {{s}}ed u{{s}}{{que}} ad finem mundi. Quod {{s}}equentibus argumentis manife{{s}}tum fiet. 1. {{graeca|κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando. 2. {{graeca|ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabapti{{s}}tarum l{{ae}}re{{s}}ias refellendo.
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<section begin="capitulumiv"/>{{xx-larger|{{c|Cap. IV.}}}}
''Tradit explicationem & demon{{s}}trationem evidenti{{s}}{{s}}imâ The{{s}}i jam ad Hypothe{{s}}in, à Doctrina ad u{{s}}um & applicationem properamus. Eliciuntur hinc quatuor plurima Con{{s}}ectaria & Corollaria.''
1. ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, & informationem.
2. ad {{graeca|κατήχησιν}}, & in{{s}}tructionem.
3. ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, & con{{s}}olationem.
4. ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}, & reprehen{{s}}ionem.
5. ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}, & hortationem.
1. O{{s}}tenditur Mini{{s}}terium dari Eccle{{s}}ia{{s}}ticum, quorum enim tot non {{s}}olum nomina, {{s}}ed etiam in{{s}}ignes tituli & celeberrima elogia in S. Scriptura huic ordini a{{s}}{{s}}ignantur, {{s}}i in Eccle{{s}}ia talis quidem ordo non extaret? neque Mini{{s}}terium hoc duraturum e{{s}}t, in men{{s}}em, annum vel unum {{s}}{{ae}}culum (ut {{s}}omniant fanatici) {{s}}ed u{{s}}{{que}} ad finem mundi. Quod {{s}}equentibus argumentis manife{{s}}tum fiet. 1. {{graeca|κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando. 2. {{graeca|ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabapti{{s}}tarum l{{ae}}re{{s}}ias refellendo.
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|46|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude><section begin="capitulumiii"/>amore digni{{s}}{{s}}imum e{{s}}t. Philip. 2. v. 29. 1. The{{s}}{{s}}. 5,13.
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<section begin="capitulumiv"/>{{xx-larger|{{c|Cap. IV.}}}}
''Tradit explicationem & demon{{s}}trationem evidenti{{s}}{{s}}imâ The{{s}}i jam ad Hypothe{{s}}in, à Doctrina ad u{{s}}um & applicationem properamus. Eliciuntur hinc quatuor plurima Con{{s}}ectaria & Corollaria.''
1. ad {{graeca|διδασκαλίαν}}, & informationem.
2. ad {{graeca|κατήχησιν}}, & in{{s}}tructionem.
3. ad {{graeca|παράκλησιν}}, & con{{s}}olationem.
4. ad {{graeca|ἐπανόρθωσιν}}, & reprehen{{s}}ionem.
5. ad {{graeca|προτροπήν}}, & hortationem.
1. O{{s}}tenditur Mini{{s}}terium dari Eccle{{s}}ia{{s}}ticum, quorum enim tot non {{s}}olum nomina, {{s}}ed etiam in{{s}}ignes tituli & celeberrima elogia in S. Scriptura huic ordini a{{s}}{{s}}ignantur, {{s}}i in Eccle{{s}}ia talis quidem ordo non extaret? neque Mini{{s}}terium hoc duraturum e{{s}}t, in men{{s}}em, annum vel unum {{s}}{{ae}}culum (ut {{s}}omniant fanatici) {{s}}ed u{{s}}{{que}} ad finem mundi. Quod {{s}}equentibus argumentis manife{{s}}tum fiet. 1. {{graeca|κατασκευαστικῶς}}, veritatem confirmando. 2. {{graeca|ἀνασκευαστικῶς}}, Anabapti{{s}}tarum l{{ae}}re{{s}}ias refellendo.
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|51|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude><section begin="capitulum iv"/>Face{{s}}{{s}}ant ita{{que}} fanatica i{{s}}ta Anabapti{{s}}tarum deliramenta; qui {{s}}preto verbi Mini{{s}}terio, & proprio fingunt cerebro, expectandas e{{s}}{{s}}e novas Revelationes & illuminationes, uti olim finxerunt {{graeca|ἐνθουσιασταί}}. Hos remittit Deus ad legem & Prophetas. I{{s}}a. 8. 20. ibi voluntatem patefecit {{s}}uam, nec ali{{ae}} Revelationes, qu{{ae}}rend{{ae}} {{s}}unt. Hoc nomine, Deus publicum in{{s}}tituit Mini{{s}}terium, ide{{que}} mirabiliter ab initio con{{s}}ervavit; & graviter edicit, ne quis con{{s}}ilium petat à Mago, ariolo, {{s}}ortilego, aut talibus Diaboli {{graeca|ἐνθουσιασταῖς}}. Deut. 18. 10. 11. 12. at quid in dubiis faciendum e{{s}}t? Mini{{s}}tris Dei au{{s}}cultandum e{{s}}t. v. 15. Tanta verò e{{s}}t Anabapti{{s}}tarum pervicacia, ut externum verbi Mini{{s}}terium, literam vocent mortuam, nec fidei aut {{s}}alutis e{{s}}{{s}}e organum & medium agno{{s}}cant; {{s}}ed ad internas Revelationes, & afflatus Spiritûs nos remittunt. Horum autem {{s}}troph{{ae}} facilè diluuntur. {{marginalia dextra|Et pr{{ae}} aliis, Elaborati{{s}}{{s}}. illud luc Di{{s}}vinum Mini{{s}}terii Evangel. cap. 1. 2.}}
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<section begin="capitulum v"/>{{xx-larger|{{c|Cap. V.}}}}
''Diluuntur Anabapti{{s}}tarum, Socinianorum, Swenckfeldianorum, & Enthu{{s}}ia{{s}}tarum Stroph{{ae}} & officia.''
1. Obj. Primum Libertinorum {{graeca|κεφάλαιον}}, petitum e{{s}}t, è Jer. 31, 34. non docebunt ampliùs unu{{s}}qui{{s}}{{que}} proximum {{s}}uum, & fratrem {{s}}uum dicendo, cogno{{s}}cite Jehovam, omnes enim cogno{{s}}cent me,
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|51|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude><section begin="capitulumiv"/>Face{{s}}{{s}}ant ita{{que}} fanatica i{{s}}ta Anabapti{{s}}tarum deliramenta; qui {{s}}preto verbi Mini{{s}}terio, & proprio fingunt cerebro, expectandas e{{s}}{{s}}e novas Revelationes & illuminationes, uti olim finxerunt {{graeca|ἐνθουσιασταί}}. Hos remittit Deus ad legem & Prophetas. I{{s}}a. 8. 20. ibi voluntatem patefecit {{s}}uam, nec ali{{ae}} Revelationes, qu{{ae}}rend{{ae}} {{s}}unt. Hoc nomine, Deus publicum in{{s}}tituit Mini{{s}}terium, ide{{que}} mirabiliter ab initio con{{s}}ervavit; & graviter edicit, ne quis con{{s}}ilium petat à Mago, ariolo, {{s}}ortilego, aut talibus Diaboli {{graeca|ἐνθουσιασταῖς}}. Deut. 18. 10. 11. 12. at quid in dubiis faciendum e{{s}}t? Mini{{s}}tris Dei au{{s}}cultandum e{{s}}t. v. 15. Tanta verò e{{s}}t Anabapti{{s}}tarum pervicacia, ut externum verbi Mini{{s}}terium, literam vocent mortuam, nec fidei aut {{s}}alutis e{{s}}{{s}}e organum & medium agno{{s}}cant; {{s}}ed ad internas Revelationes, & afflatus Spiritûs nos remittunt. Horum autem {{s}}troph{{ae}} facilè diluuntur. {{marginalia dextra|Et pr{{ae}} aliis, Elaborati{{s}}{{s}}. illud luc Di{{s}}vinum Mini{{s}}terii Evangel. cap. 1. 2.}}
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<section begin="capitulumv"/>{{xx-larger|{{c|Cap. V.}}}}
''Diluuntur Anabapti{{s}}tarum, Socinianorum, Swenckfeldianorum, & Enthu{{s}}ia{{s}}tarum Stroph{{ae}} & officia.''
1. Obj. Primum Libertinorum {{graeca|κεφάλαιον}}, petitum e{{s}}t, è Jer. 31, 34. non docebunt ampliùs unu{{s}}qui{{s}}{{que}} proximum {{s}}uum, & fratrem {{s}}uum dicendo, cogno{{s}}cite Jehovam, omnes enim cogno{{s}}cent me,
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|59|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude>annum, aut donec regeneremur, {{s}}ed durabit donec omnes, electi perveniant in unitatem fidei, & cognitionis Chri{{s}}ti (1) non {{s}}olùm donec uniamur Chri{{s}}to per fidem, {{s}}ed etiam donec omnes redempti ad perfectam cognitionem in vi{{s}}ione immediatâ perveniant: & ad plenam Chri{{s}}ti {{s}}taturam, quod fiet in Re{{s}}urrectione. Deinde, verbi Mini{{s}}terium non {{s}}olum e{{s}}t renatis {{s}}emen. Jac. 1.18. 1. Pet. 1, 23. {{s}}ed & pabulum. 1. Pet. 2, 2. nec tantùm regenerationis organon, {{s}}ed & {{ae}}dificationis. Act. 20, 32. 2. Tim. 3, 16. 17. ideò jubet credentes Apo{{s}}tolus; ne de{{s}}erant c{{oe}}tus eccle{{s}}ia{{s}}ticos, Heb. 10, 25. unde enim generarur fides, inde etiam nutritur & augetur. E. g. Jeremia fuit regenitus, comedit tamen verbum Dei, ce{{s}}{{s}}it{{que}} illi in gaudium & l{{ae}}titiam cordis. Jer. 15, 16. David fuit regenitus, & verbum Dei fuit illi melle dulcius, & auro purgati{{s}}{{s}}imo de{{s}}iderabilius. P{{s}}al. 19, 11. Job fuit regenitus, at ille dicitur eloquia & verbum Dei in corde {{s}}uo recondidi{{s}}{{s}}e, & tanquam nobilem aliquem the{{s}}aurum cu{{s}}todivi{{s}}{{s}}e, imò vel pr{{ae}} alimento {{s}}uo (1) magis quàm res {{s}}ibi ad victum nece{{s}}{{s}}arias, ob{{s}}erva{{s}}{{s}}e, Job. 23, 12. {{marginalia dextra|Recondidi in corde meo dicta tua, ut ea cum opus e{{s}}{{s}}et, expromerem bona patri{{s}}familias more. Mercer.}}
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1. Hinc elicitur Mini{{s}}terii Evangelici ab{{s}}oluta nece{{s}}{{s}}itas. Tolle hoc {{s}}al, & {{s}}tatim in peccatis computre{{s}}cimus omnes. Totus mundus non tantùm cadit, {{s}}ed malitio{{s}}è & malignè jacet in malo. [1. Joh. 5,19.] & in {{ae}}ternum ab{{s}}{{que}} Pr{{ae}}dicationis {{s}}ale, perit, rancet, tabe{{s}}cet: nec minus nunc indiget hoc condimento, quàm tempore Apo{{s}}tolico. Tolle Mini{{s}}terium, & Solem è mundo {{s}}u{{s}}tuli{{s}}ti, quid enim e{{s}}t mundus ab{{s}}{{que}} mini{{s}}terio, quàm imago inferni, imò ip{{s}}{{s}}ima in terris tartara, ubi ordo nullus, horror {{s}}empiternus? inde
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1. Hinc elicitur Mini{{s}}terii Evangelici ab{{s}}oluta nece{{s}}{{s}}itas. Tolle hoc {{s}}al, & {{s}}tatim in peccatis computre{{s}}cimus omnes. Totus mundus non tantùm cadit, {{s}}ed malitio{{s}}è & malignè jacet in malo. [1. Joh. 5,19.] & in {{ae}}ternum ab{{s}}{{que}} Pr{{ae}}dicationis {{s}}ale, perit, rancet, tabe{{s}}cet: nec minus nunc indiget hoc condimento, quàm tempore Apo{{s}}tolico. Tolle Mini{{s}}terium, & Solem è mundo {{s}}u{{s}}tuli{{s}}ti, quid enim e{{s}}t mundus ab{{s}}{{que}} mini{{s}}terio, quàm imago inferni, imò ip{{s}}{{s}}ima in terris tartara, ubi ordo nullus, horror {{s}}empiternus? inde
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<noinclude><pagequality level="3" user="Saumache" />{{c|{{spatium|0.35em|{{xx-maior|'''PRAEFATIO'''}}}}}}<div style="margin-top:1.5em">{{regula|6em|altitudo=0.2em}}</div><br></noinclude>{{xx-maior|'''P'''}}{{spatium||risciani Caesariensis}} Mauri<ref>v. Niebuhrium in praef. corp. script. hist. Byzant. tom, I p. XXXIV</ref> aetas eo definitur, quod de laude Anastasii imperatoris anno fere p. C. n. 512<ref>cf. Endlicheri ad huius carm, v. 289 sqq. annotationem p. 75 ed. suae</ref> carmen composuit. et potuit certe ad eandem aetatem spectare {{spatium||{{wl||Cassiodorus}}}}, qui, cum ‘ad amantissimos orthographos discutiendos anno aetatis nonagesimo tertio’<ref>Cassiod. de orthograph. p. 227⅞ P.</ref>, anno igitur fere 560<ref>cf. Mansonis Geschichte des Ost-Gothischen Reiches in Italien p. 332 sqq.</ref>, pervenisset, iis de orthographia praeceptis, quae ex Prisciano excerpsit, haec praefixit: ‘ex Prisciano grammatico, qui nostro tempore Constantinopoli Romae doctor fuit, de libro ipsius ista collecta sunt’<ref>Cassiod. I. I. p. 2318 Ρ.</ref>. neque per se his obstat, quod Iustiniani temporibus ‘apud Constantinopolim’ eum ‘grammaticae artis profunda rimatum esse’ narrat {{spatium||{{wl||Paulus Diaconus}}}}<ref>de gestis Longobard. I 25. ita rem sese habere constaret, si affirmari posset, quod nonnulli contendunt, Iulianum consulem ac patricium, quo suasore institutionum grammaticarom libros Priscianus edidit cuique eos dedicavit, epitomes novellarum Iustinianearum Latinae circa annum 556 concinnatae (cf. Bienerum Geschichte der Novellen Justinians Berol. 1824 p. 74 sq.) esse auctorem. at is si summas dignitates amplius triginta annis ante (v. infra) obtinuisset, haud ita nude ‘vir eloquentissimus, antecessor civitatis Constantinopolitanae’ in libris mss. nominaretur. qua vix certior videtur altera vv. dd. coniectura, eum Symmachum, cui opuscula de figuris numerorum et de nummis vel ponderibus, de Terentii metris et de praeexercitaminibus rhetoricis in corpus aliquod redacta inscripsit Priscianus, fuisse consulem a. 485</ref>. vereor tamen, ne haec sententia non nisi illo Cassiodori loco nitatur, cum uno Dionysio Exiguo interposito ipsi Cassiodoro Priscianum ibi Paulus adiungat. ceterum partim ipsum partim auctores ex ipso oriundos, ut alii ex aliis deinceps pendeant, secuti sunt adiecta passim accuratiore temporis nota, quam nullius momenti esse patet, fontes rerum Germanicarum: Ekkehardus in chronico et Virceburgensi et universali<ref>monum. Germ. hist, ed. Pertzius scriptor. tom. VI p. 24, 32 (Iustiniani anno 20); 140, 7; 143, 24</ref> atque Sigebertus<ref>ibid. 315, 53 (a. 528)</ref>, historia regum Franc. {{pt|mo-}}<noinclude><references/></noinclude>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|96|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude><section begin="capitulumvii"/>{{marginalia dextra|Non habent Dei charitatem, qui Eccle{{s}}i{{ae}} non diligunt unitatem. Aug.}}Nec de{{s}}unt Motiva. 1. Deus no{{s}}ter e{{s}}t pacis Deus. Rom. 15, 33. 2. Cor. 13, 11. 2. Chri{{s}}tus e{{s}}t princeps pacis. I{{s}}a. 9, 6. Ephe{{s}}. 2, 14. 4. filii Dei {{s}}unt filii pacis. Luc. 10, 6. 4. Evangelium quod annuntiamus, e{{s}}t pacis Evangelium. Ephe{{s}}. 6, 15. Denique vocati {{s}}umus ad pacem. 1. Cor. 7, 15. pacem itaque {{graeca|διώκετε}}, (1) {{s}}ummâ vehementiâ {{et}} ardore per{{s}}equimini, vel fugientem à vobis in{{s}}tar leporis in{{s}}equamini, {{et}} comprehendatis. P{{s}}alm. 34, 15. Hebr. 12, 14. pacem {{et}} veritatem. Zach. 8, 19. aliter, melius e{{s}}t di{{s}}{{s}}idium pietatis ergò, quàm vitio{{s}}a concordia. Si verò fieri pote{{s}}t, quantum in nobis e{{s}}t, cum omnibus hominibus in pace vivamus. Rom. 12, 18. quia {{s}}umus unum corpus, ab uno regimur {{s}}piritu, unam habemus {{s}}pem, unum Dominum, unam fidem, bapti{{s}}ma unum. Ephe{{s}}. 4, 2. ad 7. deinde, hoc e{{s}}t 1. Ju{{s}}tum, 2. Hone{{s}}tum, 3. bonum,
{{marginalia dextra|Con{{s}}ule Sibelij Tom. 1. p. 176. {{et}}c. M Baxter.Saint. Re{{s}}t.l3.c14.Sect.10 Ser.on Zach.14,9.p38.{{et}}c.}} 4. am{{oe}}num; ut nervo{{s}}è, {{s}}olidè, {{s}}anctè quam plurimis evincit argumentis clari{{s}}{{s}}imus ille Sibelius. è P{{s}}alm. 133, 1. {{et}}c.
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|127|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude><section begin="capitulumxiii"/>Tales hirudines Sacrilegium {{s}}eminant, {{et}} ruinam metent. Tollunt*
{{marginalia dextra|* Donaria Deo dicata.}} {{graeca|ἀναθήματα}}, {{et}} fiunt {{graeca|ἀνάθεμα}}. Aurum habent*{{marginalia dextra|* Multum fuit auri in oppidi Tholo{{s}}{{s}}ani Templi{{s}}, at qui{{s}}quis illud attigit, misero cruciatibus exi-tum periit. Aul. Gell. Noct. Attic. l. 3. c. 9. V. Pleniùs. Trapp. in Malach. 3, 8. 10. {{et}} Scias qui beneficiorum appropriationes obtinent quas vel h{{ae}}reditario jure, vel emptione ju{{s}}tâ {{s}}e po{{s}}{{s}}idere arbitrantur, has ab Eccle{{s}}iis (contractibus divinum) olim {{s}}urreptas {{et}} {{s}}uppilatas fui{{s}}{{s}}e, easdemque per violentiam {{et}} Sacrilegium Papi{{s}}ticum {{s}}e acqui{{s}}i{{s}}{{s}}e u{{s}}urpare, Eccle{{s}}iis debent re{{s}}tituere. D. Gi{{s}}ford.}} Tholo{{s}}{{s}}anum, te{{s}}te Bel{{s}}hazzare, Antiocho, Pompejo, Juliano, Claudio, Fulvio, Pyrrho {{et}}c. ut videre e{{s}}t apud La{{s}}{{s}}at. l. 2. c. 4-7. Nec mirum, nam {{s}}acrilegium e{{s}}t Idololatriâ nonnihil deterius, quippe omnis numinis contemptum arguit. Rom. 2, 22. abominaris Idola, {{et}} {{s}}acrilegium committis? q.d. abominaris fal{{s}}os Deos, {{et}} {{s}}polias interim verum Deum quod e{{s}}t pejus? Deinde, lucra p{{ae}}nas inju{{s}}titi{{ae}}, quia retinent alienum, cui annexa e{{s}}t malitia qu{{ae}}dam {{s}}acrilega, quia decim{{ae}} debentur DEO, tum gratitudinis ergò, tum ad divinum cultum {{s}}u{{s}}tentandum. Sed quò feror? {{s}}uper{{s}}unt tantùm Anabapti{{s}}tarum {{s}}troph{{ae}}a, qu{{ae}} pauc{{ae}} {{s}}unt, nec magni ponderis, ideoque paucis {{s}}unt diluend{{ae}}.
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{{c|''Diluuntur fanaticorum, {{et}} phreneticorum deliria.''}}
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Sol. Face{{s}}{{s}}at ergo dies Dominicus, face{{s}}{{s}}at infantium Bapti{{s}}mus, face{{s}}{{s}}ant ve{{s}}tigalia, face{{s}}{{s}}ant, denique debita, {{et}}c. quia h{{ae}}c {{graeca|κατὰ τὸ ῥητὸν}} in N. T. non inveniuntur. At decim{{ae}} qu{{ae}} mandantur in V. T. non abolentur in novo quoad {{s}}piritualem {{et}} moralem earum u{{s}}um. id{{que}} parebit triplici ratione. 1. Pietatis ergò, quia dantur Deo {{et}} ejus cultui. 2. Gratitudinis ergò, decim{{ae}} enim {{s}}unt laudis Sacrificium, propter dona nobis à Deo data. Gen. 28, 22. Deut. 8, 18. 3. Ju{{s}}titi{{ae}} commutativ{{ae}} ergò, nam {{s}}i {{s}}piritualia {{s}}eminavimus, magnum non e{{s}}t {{s}}i carnalia metamus.
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3. Et{{s}}i nonnulli Mini{{s}}tri uxores {{et}} filios naturales non habeant, habent tamen pauperes qui {{s}}unt illis loco filiorum, quos jure divino tenentur {{s}}u{{s}}tentare.
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{{marginalia dextra|Corollarium 6.}}Caveant denique Pa{{s}}tores omnes Evangelici ne Sal in{{s}}ipidum {{et}} in{{s}}ul{{s}}um {{s}}int: Salis induimus nomen, induamus {{et}} naturam, nam nomen inane, crimen immane.
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|165|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude>mandum, dixit Lutherus. Sit itá{{que}} manus ad clavum, oculus ad c{{oe}}lum: nam bene ora{{s}}{{s}}e, e{{s}}t bene {{s}}tudui{{s}}{{s}}e, {{et}} perperam {{s}}tudet, qui frigidè {{et}} parcè orat.
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Ad umbilicum jam perduxi (favente Deo) hanc Apologiam de Legatorum Dei Utilitate {{et}} efficacia. Quid {{s}}upere{{s}}t? ni{{s}}i ut h{{ae}}c ruminemus, in puro corde cu{{s}}todiamus, {{et}} toto vit{{ae}} no{{s}}tr{{ae}} curriculo mundo o{{s}}tendamus: Ita Deo fuerimus Glori{{ae}}, Eccle{{s}}i{{ae}} ornamento, Reip. munimento, amicis {{s}}olamini, inimicis terrori, fomentò bonis, aculeo pravis, {{et}}c.
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<noinclude><pagequality level="1" user="JimKillock" />{{rvh|165|SAL TERR{{AE}}.}}</noinclude><section begin="capitulumx"/>{{pt|mandum|formandum}}, dixit Lutherus. Sit itá{{que}} manus ad clavum, oculus ad c{{oe}}lum: nam bene ora{{s}}{{s}}e, e{{s}}t bene {{s}}tudui{{s}}{{s}}e, {{et}} perperam {{s}}tudet, qui frigidè {{et}} parcè orat.
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Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum V
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276357
2026-08-16T16:07:05Z
JimKillock
19003
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276357
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Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VI
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276366
2026-08-16T18:32:14Z
JimKillock
19003
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2026-08-16T18:32:37Z
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19003
276367
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276368
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2026-08-16T18:33:02Z
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19003
276368
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276369
276368
2026-08-16T18:33:34Z
JimKillock
19003
276369
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276370
276369
2026-08-16T18:34:29Z
JimKillock
19003
276370
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Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VII
0
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276371
2026-08-16T18:35:23Z
JimKillock
19003
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276371
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276372
276371
2026-08-16T18:35:56Z
JimKillock
19003
276372
wikitext
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276374
276372
2026-08-16T18:37:39Z
JimKillock
19003
276374
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Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum VIII
0
85119
276375
2026-08-16T18:38:36Z
JimKillock
19003
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276375
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276376
276375
2026-08-16T18:38:59Z
JimKillock
19003
276376
wikitext
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276378
276376
2026-08-16T18:40:27Z
JimKillock
19003
276378
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Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum IX
0
85120
276379
2026-08-16T18:41:55Z
JimKillock
19003
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276379
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Sal Terrae, sive Apologia pro Ministerio Evangelico/Capitulum X
0
85121
276382
2026-08-16T18:44:24Z
JimKillock
19003
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276382
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276383
276382
2026-08-16T18:46:07Z
JimKillock
19003
276383
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276385
276383
2026-08-16T18:48:59Z
JimKillock
19003
276385
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Panegyricus (Merobaudes)
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85122
276396
2026-08-16T21:33:47Z
Demetrius Talpa
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|Fons=Musisque Deoque
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<poem>
Danuuii cum pace redit Tanainque furore
Exuit et nigro candentes aethere terras
Marte suo caruisse iubet; dedit otia ferro
Caucasus et saeui condemnant proelia reges.
{{Versus|5}}Addidit hiberni famulantia foedera Rhenus
Orbis et Hesperiis flecti contentus habenis
Gaudet ab alterna Thybrin sibi crescere ripa.
Lustrat Aremoricos iam mitior incola saltus,
Perdidit et mores tellus adsuetaque saeuo
{{Versus|10}}Crimine quaesitas siluis celare rapinas
Discit inexpertis Cererem committere campis
Caesareoque diu manus obluctata labori
Sustinet acceptas nostro sub consule leges
Et quamuis Geticis sulcum confundat aratris
{{Versus|15}}Barbara uicinae refugit consortia gentis.
Hinc quoque, Tyrrhenis qua fluctibus ima resultat
Gallia et aerii conscendens ardua montis
Limite nimboso terras perstringit Hiberas,
Nil nostri iam iuris erat. sed belliger ultor
{{Versus|20}}Captiuum reserauit iter clausasque recepit
Expulso praedone uias populosque relictis
Vrbibus et sociis confinia reddidit aruis.
Vndique iam Scythicis erepta furoribus hostem
...
{{Versus|24}}Insessor Libyes quamuis fatalibus armis
{{Versus|25}}Ausus Elissaei solium rescindere regni
Milibus Arctois Tyrias compleuerat arces.
Nunc hostem exutus pactis proprioribus arsit
Romanam uincire fidem Latiosque parentes
Adnumerare sibi sociamque intexere prolem.
{{Versus|30}}Sic tranquilla togae recipit dum praemia ductor
Pacatamque iubet lituos nescire curulem,
Ipsa triumphales habitus mirantia passim
Bella dedere locum. Scythici iuuat axe subacto
Cardinis arcanis lustrare securibus urbem.
{{Versus|35}}Ipse pater Mauors, Latii fatalis origo,
Festa ducis socii trucibus non impedit armis:
Tela dei currusque silent uacuique iugales
Pabula Rhiphaeis retegunt abstrusa pruinis.
Exarmat Bellona comas galeamque remittens
{{Versus|40}}Puluereum glauca crinem praecingit oliua
Cristatamque docet foliis mansuescere frontem.
Hanc tot bella tibi requiem, Romane, dederunt:
Pax armis accita uenit, Victoria semper
Ductoris sociam traxit praelata curulem.
{{Versus|45}}Post lauros rediere togae meritumque secuti
Alta triumphorum relegunt uestigia fasces.
Nec certare ualent: uincit sua praemia uirtus
Successumque labor superat. quae munera Fati
Acta uiri pensare queant? an nomina rara
{{Versus|50}}A..... et Nili populis ploratus <Osiris.
Despicimur: sic cuncta mei reuere<ntia regni
Alterna sub sorte perit: depellim<ur undis
Nec terris regnare licet. nec inulta <feremus
Haec tamen et nostris aderit sors ius<ta querellis:
{{Versus|55}}Eliciam summo gentes aquilone r<epostas
Phasiacoque pauens innabitur hospit<e Thybris.
Confundam populos, regnorum foede<ra rumpam,
Nobilis et nostris miscebitur aula <procellis.
Haec ait et pigros zephyris inuecta t<riones
{{Versus|60}}Nubila Rhiphaei penetrauerat algida <montis.
Hic curua sub rupe sedens crude<lis Enyo
Texerat annosa refugum sub pace f<urorem.
Huius luctus erat, quod sit sine lucti<bus orbis:
Laetis maesta gemit. squalent infor<mia taetro
{{Versus|65}}Ora situ siccique rigent in ueste cruo<res;
Dura supinato pendent retinacula <curru,
Languet apex galeae, clipei nec trist<is in orbe
Lux rubet et totae pereunt mucroni<bus hastae.
Hanc ubi diua nocens liquido de trami<te cernit,
{{Versus|70}}Desilit et tali residem licet excitat o<rsu:
"Quis miseros, germana, tibi sopor ob<ruit artus
Pace sub inmensa? quoniam tua pecto<ra .....
Mersit iniqua quies, inopes tua classi<ca ......
...
{{Versus|74}}...........>es habitus, tege casside uultus,
{{Versus|75}}Coge truce>s in bella globos Scythicasque pharetras
Egerat i>gnotis Tanais bacchatus in oris.
Auratas con>sterne domos et operta metallis
Culmina, qua>e toto Latii conspeximus orbe;
Fulgentes i>n tela ruant: grauis ardeat auro
{{Versus|80}}Balteus, a>uratae circumdent tela pharetrae,
Aurea cri>spatis insidat lamna lupatis;
Incendant> gemmae chalybem ferroque micantes
Cassidis a>uratis facibus lux induat enses.
Moenia n>ulla tuos ualeant arcere furores:
{{Versus|85}}Gentes at>que tremant furialia murmura reges.
Tum super>os terris atque hospita numina pelle:
Ture suo p>opulare deos et nullus in aris
Messis od>oratae fotus strue palleat ignis.
Ast ego te>cta dolis palatia celsa subibo.
{{Versus|90}}Maioru>m mores et pectora prisca fugabo:
Segnes at>que simul nullo discrimine rerum
Laudentur> fortes nec sit reuerentia iustis
Spretaque n>eglecto pereat facundia Phoebo,
Indig>nis contingat honos et pondera rerum
{{Versus|95}}Non uir>tus, sed casus agat tristisque cupido
Cordibus et> saeui demens furor aestuet auri.
Non tamen> haec sine mente Iouis, sine numine summo
...
{{Versus|98}}Et placidus sub pace pudor. non proelia mandet,
Sed gerat et priscis instauret fata triumphis,
{{Versus|100}}Quem non praeda docens aurique insana cupido
Cogat inexhaustis animum permittere curis,
Sed ferri laudandus amor Latiique cruoris
Indocilis iugulisque madens hostilibus ensis
Indomitum mitemque probet". nec uota cadebant
{{Versus|105}}In dubium notumque fuit quem posceret Orbis:
Aetium coniunctus amor populique patrumque
Et procerum mens omnis habet. nec dicere mussant,
Sed petiere palam. iam quod sententia mundi
Cunctorumque fides nullis auctoribus ambit,
{{Versus|110}}Fata iubent: aderat studiis iuuitque fauorem
Nota uiri uirtus et magni gloria patris.
Nam claro genitore satus -sed forte parentem
Caedibus Arctois et iusta sorte potitum
Callidus et falsa tectus prece perculit ensis
{{Versus|115}}Mercatum uita leti decus: haut secus olim
Pugnaces Fabii patria pro gente cadebant
Et Decius, propero lucem qui fine refudit,
Sed famam sine fine tenet, nam mortis amorem
Pensat laudis honor -tanti sibi conscius heros
{{Versus|120}}Sanguinis emeritum praestantibus innouat actis
...
{{Versus|121}}Vt uix prona nouis erexit gressibus ora
Primaque reptatis niuibus uestigia fixit,
Mox iaculum petiere manus lusitque gelatis
Imbribus et siccis imitatus missile lymphis
{{Versus|125}}Temptauit pugnas tenerosque ad proelia ludos
Imbuit et ueras iam tunc respexit ad hastas.
Nec mora, cum Scythicis succumberet ensibus orbis
Telaque Tarpeias premerent Arctoa secures,
Hostilem fregit rabiem pignusque superbi
{{Versus|130}}Foederis et mundi pretium fuit hinc modo uoti
Rata fides, ualidis quod dux premat impiger armis
Edomuit quos pace puer bellumque repressit
Ignarus, quid bella forent. stupuere feroces
In tenero iam membra Getae. rex ipse uerendum
{{Versus|135}}Miratus pueri decus et prodentia fatum
Lumina primaeuas dederat gestare pharetras
Laudabatque manus librantem et tela gerentem
Oblitus quod noster erat. pro nescia regis
Corda, feris quanto populis discrimine constet
{{Versus|140}}Quod Latium docet arma ducem! sed nomine natum
Nuncupat et mauult naturae dicere pignus
Quam pacis. tali teneros sub iudice primum
Gaudebat studiis flammare ferocibus annos
...
{{Versus|144}}Teutonicum Latiis hostem cum ste<rneret armis
{{Versus|145}}Tunc ad bella rudem nec adulto ma<rte probatum;
Ille tamen magnis opibus Romaque uire<nte
Gallica bis quinos certamina traxi<t in annos
Et senior post bella redit. nunc glo<ria maior,
Quod iam barbaricae mutatos semi<ne terrae
{{Versus|150}}Et bellare pares, uno quod tempore <cunctos,
Quod clausos castris hostes supera<uit et arces,
Quae quondam uictoris erant, hic dext<ra recepit
Magnanimi luctata ducis. nam claust<ra tegebant
Et turritus apex ingestaque moenia c<olli
{{Versus|155}}Naturam cumulante manu. nec signi<fer unus
Illic, turba fuit, longo sed tempore c<astris
Barbaries iunctis occasum miscui<t ortu.
Stat clipeis uallata cohors, hastilia <torquens,
Ense minax uolucrique nocens per in<ane sagitta,
{{Versus|160}}Nobile non animis, sed non ignobile <factis
Vulgus; inaequali iustus Mars sorte <probatur:
Inuius hinc uertex manibusque et moenibus <horrens,
Inde ducis uirtus bellum domitu<ra per artem.
Ergo immite fremens coniuncto ro<bore miles
{{Versus|165}}Naturae certare parat. cadit agmin<e caesa
Silua ferox: nudi mirantur sidera <fontes
Ignotumque uident montana cubilia <caelum.
Texitur in turres abies et uincere <muros
Iussa renitentes exterret culmin<e pinnas.
{{Versus|170}}Horribiles creuere uiae, quas uique <manuque
...
{{Versus|171}}.......>us longis in caelum molibus urget
Aeriis>que iubet socios consistere castris.
Iam nullu>s sine Marte dies, nox omnis in armis.
Tunc latet> obscuras bellatrix pinna per umbras
{{Versus|175}}Illatu>ra neces et mors incerta tenebris
Dimou>et indubia quamuis sub sorte cruorem.
Ancipiti >gnaros fatorum lumine cursus
Auia te>la regunt et letum errantia portant.
Iamque sub>actorum bello pars magna reorum
{{Versus|180}}Pacta diu> tardata parat sensimque recepta
........>are minas et iam discordibus armis,
Dum pars b>ella gerit, ueniam pars poscere gestu,
Pars prope>rare fugam, donec penetrata labore
Longo ui>ctrices hauserunt moenia flammae
{{Versus|185}}Proeliaque op>tatam en uictis dant ultima famam,
Qui saeuo sub> Marte cadunt. sed carmina tandem
Sancta c>ruentatos uertant ad foedera cantus:
Semper> bella sonant, semper memorabitur hostis.
Pax sat la>udis habet, cui tot praemisimus arma:
{{Versus|190}}Pax mun>di longaeua salus, qua uindice tutam
Exerc>ent elementa fidem, qua comprimit undas
Vulcanu>s noctisque uices lux alma recondit,
Phoebo n>ec siccas urit Titania terras;
Pax popu>lis quae iura dedit, quae condidit urbes
{{Versus|195}}............xit Latium post bella Quirini
......c.ato animam uirtute Quirinum
.....sus geminos oris nunc m...
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|Annus= Saeculo V
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|Genera=Carmina, panegyrici
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|Fons=Musisque Deoque
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==I.==
<poem>
Incumbit foribus pictae Concordia mensae
Purpureique sacer sexus uterque laris,
Aeternas ubi festa dapes conuiuia gestant
Purpureisque nitent regia fulcra toris.
{{Versus|5}}Ipse micans tecti medium cum coniuge princ<eps
Lucida ceu summi possidet astra poli,
Terrarum ueneranda salus: pro praeside n<ostro
Amissas subito flet nouus exul opes;
Cui natura dedit, uictoria reddidit orbem
{{Versus|10}} Claraque longinquos praebuit aula toro<s.
Hic ubi sacra parens placidi petit oscula nat<i,
Castalium credas cum genetrice deum;
Cum soror adsistit, nitidae candentia Luna<e
Sidera fraterna luce micare putes;
{{Versus|15}}Si coniux aderit, dicas Nereia Pelei
Haemonio Thetidos foedera iuncta toro.
Hac etiam de prole licet sperare nepotem,
Cui Larisa suum conferat una uirum.
En noua iam suboles, quae uix modo missa sub <auras
{{Versus|20}} Mystica iam tenero pectore sacra gerit,
Vagitu confessa deum; sentire putare<s,
Mollia sic tremulo mouerat ora sono.
O felix uno geminam cui tempore uitam
...
</poem>
==II==
<poem>
...
Aul>a uiret pulchram domini sortita iuuentam
I>psaque primaeuo lumine tecta nitent,
Qu>ae Phoebi flammata rotis et principis ostro
Aetheris ac terrae sidera mixta tenent.
{{Versus|5}}M>armoreos rigat unda lacus fictasque metallis
Cornigeras rapido proluit amne feras
....>aque festinis onerat crystalla fluentis:
Gemma uehit laticem, quae fuit ante latex.
..>mina celsa tenet socia cum coniuge princeps,
{{Versus|10}} C>uius sacra petit pignora mundus ouans.
Mi>ra fides! optare licet, cui sceptra capessant,
N>ec numerum regum poscere uota timent
Et> dominos secura sui de stemmate regni
C>ontinuat proprios dum creat aula nouos.
</poem>
==III.==
<poem>
Ex>plicat aestiuas ramis errantibus umbras
F>rigoris arcani silua referta gelu
Nec> commune sibi tempus permittit et anno
Priuatamque hiemem frondea tecta tenent.
{{Versus|5}}Int>ertonsa comas Spartani marmoris instar
Por>rigit excisum buxus amoena latus,
Qua>m nec Achaemeniae possent penetrare sagittae
...
.... M>arti iunxit amica Venus.
</poem>
==IV.==
<poem>
Annus panditur ecce iam secundus
Et festum puero diem reducit,
Quo uitalibus inchoatus auris
Infusi bibit aetheris uigorem.
{{Versus|5}}Omnes nunc Latiae fauete Musae,
Omnes nunc Latiae uirete siluae;
Vernent limina laureisque sertis
Inserpant hederae uagante nexu;
Exultet placido tumore Thybris
{{Versus|10}}Et nulla rutilus nec asper unda
Hibernis uada molliat serenis.
Laxet pectora bellicosa ductor
(Est dignus rude) lacteamque prolem
Nodosis ferus ambiat lacertis;
{{Versus|15}}Adsit cum socio parente coniunx,
Coniunx non leuibus canenda musis,
Heroum suboles, propago regum;
Cuius gloria feminam superstat;
Quae non ut Thetis anxium pauorem
{{Versus|20}}Secretis Stygos abluit sub undis
Et natum trepidis anhela curis
Contra fata deum metusque leti
...
{{Versus|23}}Primaeuos pueri rec<entis> art<us
Plenis numine fontibus rigauit,
{{Versus|25}}Qua puri deus arbiter lauacri
Arcana laticum receptus unda
Pellit crimina nec sinit fuisse
Et uitam nouat obruitque poenam.
His te primitiis, puer, sacratum
{{Versus|30}}Excepit gremio micante Roma
Et nudi lateris recincta uestem,
Quae bellis procul omnibus patebat,
Nutricem tibi praebuit papillam.
Felix distulit adtulitque partum
{{Versus|35}}Lucinae mora: praestitit morari,
Vt spebus timidis diu negatus
Et ciuis dominae futurus Vrbi
Natalem tibi regiam Quirini
Et primas Latii domos uideres,
{{Versus|40}}Proles Martia Martios penates,
Hoc iam clarior inclyto parente,
Quod uix puberibus pater sub annis
Obiectus Geticis puer cateruis,
Bellorum mora, foederis sequester,
{{Versus|45}}Intentas Latio faces remouit
Ac mundi pretium fuit pauentis.
</poem>
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<noinclude><pagequality level="3" user="Basaundi" />{{rh|82|NOTITIA|}}</noinclude>''Garsia Petri de Murieta R dam Enclone de Oriz Arizcoyriz Martino de Subiça Sangossam veterem Petro Guillelmi Præposito in Stella Gastone in praedicta populatione. Ego Fernandus Veruincensis Archidiaconus & Domini Regis Cancellarius de mandato Domini Regis hanc cartam scripsi et hoc signum † meum apposui.''
{{sc|Tutela}} sequitur civitas florens et nobilis, ipsóque situ opportuna: posita est enim ad amnem Iberum, loco ad exercendum cum finitimis commercium accommodato. Ponte amnis continenti iungitur lapideo, eleganti opere temporibus Sanctii Regis hujus nominis ultimi, iussu et impensis Regiis inædificato. De istius urbis vetustate aut origine nihil suggerunt libri aut vetera monumenta. Hoc solum constat, ab Alfonso Pompelonensi & Arragonensi Rege Mauris ereptam, deinde Rotroni Perticensi Comiti, in præmium egregiæ in bello contra Mauros nauatæ operæ, concessam fuisse: Antea tamen illam in dominio Regum Pompelonensium extitisse, docuit Garibayus lib. 22. cap. 28. sui Chronici. Leges et privilegia ab Aldefonso impetrare meruit, sancitumque est, ut iure illo quod Supraibiense vocant uteretur, scriptis eâ de re codicillis erâ 1155 quorum nos hîc non integram seriem, ne lectori fastidio sit, sed primum duntaxat caput, quod ad rem præsentem facere videtur, prout ex autographo quod in Pompelonensi Camerâ Rationum extat, describere licuit, referemus.
{{sc|In}} ''Dei nomine. Ego Adefonsus Rex Aragoniae et Nauarrae ac filius Regis Sanctii cum consilio et providentia virorum meorum nobilium et curiæ meæ qui me per Dei gratiam adjuvaverunt capere Tutelam et alia circumadjacentia dono concedo omnibus populatoribus in Tutela vel habitantibus in''<noinclude></noinclude>
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{{rh|70|{{Capituli|Gesta Abbatum}}|}}</noinclude>{{Marginalia sinistra|<center>John IV.,<br/>26th<br/>Abbot,<br/>A.D.<br/>1302–8.{{hr}}/<center>}} ad verbum continetur, omnia debita ex quacunque causa, usque ad diem confectionis chartæ suæ, quam eis inde fecerat; scripsit in hunc modum Baronibus suis de Scacario, ut eos quietos facerent, juxta tenorem litterarum suarum.—
: {{Marginalia sinistra|Royal mandate to the Treasurer and Barons of the Exchequer, remitting all claims for past debts against the Abbot and Convent of Saint Alban's, 2nd August 1301.}} "Edwardus, Dei gratia, Rex Angliæ, Dominus Hiberniæ, et Dux Aquitanniæ, Thesaurario et Baronibus suis de Scacario, salutem. Sciatis quod pro remissione quam dilecti nobis in Christo Abbas et Conventus de Sancto Albano nobis fecerunt, tam de illis mille marcis quas ab eis, pro quibusdam arduis negotiis nostris expediendis, mutuo recepimus, de <ref>''peccunia'' in MS.</ref>pecunia decimæ in subsidium Terræ Sanctæ a clero regni nostri nuper concesse, eisdem Abbati et Covnentui nomine Summi Pontificis liberata, in deposito custodienda, et quas idem Abbas et Covnentus postmodum pro nobis dicto Summo Pontifici solverunt: quam de aliis debitis quibuscunque, in quibus eis, ex quacunque causa, usque ad diem confectioni præsentium <ref>??? in MS., erroneously</ref>tenebamus; necnon et pro trecentis marcis quas idem Abbas et Covnentus nobis, in subsidium expeditionis nostræ Scotiæ, jam dederunt:—perdonavimus eis omnia debita, in quibus ipsi nobis ex quacunque causa usque ad diem prædictum tenebantur; volentes et concedentes, pro nobis et hæredibus nostris, quod iidem Abbas et Conventus de debitis prædictis penitus sint quieti, prout in litteris patentibus, eisdem Abbati et Conventui inde confectis, plenius continetur. Et ideo vobis mandamus quod ipsos Abbatem et Covnentum de debitis prædictis quictos esse faciatis, juxta tenorem litterarum nostrarum prædictarum. Teste meipso, apud Pebb[l}es secundo die Augusti, anno regni nostri vicesimo nono."
==== DE <ref>??? in MS., by inadvertence.</ref>allocationibus diversis tempore prædicti Abbatis, per industriam D???? Johannis Sternache. Cellerarii Sancti Albani permisitis. ====
{{Marginalia sinistra|By reason of each other, certain debts are remitted by the Exchequer.}} Anne igitur Domini millesimo trecentesimo tertio, Frater Johannes de <ref>Correctly ''Sternache''.</ref>Stihenache,—cujus animæ propitietur DEus, tunc Cellerarius. Domini Johannis de<noinclude>{{hr}}
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<noinclude><pagequality level="2" user="Catgolin" />{{sidenotes begin}}
{{rh|70|{{Capituli|Gesta Abbatum}}|}}</noinclude>{{Marginalia sinistra|<center>John IV.,<br/>26th<br/>Abbot,<br/>A.D.<br/>1302–8.{{hr}}</center>}} ad verbum continetur, omnia debita ex quacunque causa, usque ad diem confectionis chartæ suæ, quam eis inde fecerat; scripsit in hunc modum Baronibus suis de Scacario, ut eos quietos facerent, juxta tenorem litterarum suarum.—
: {{Marginalia sinistra|Royal mandate to the Treasurer and Barons of the Exchequer, remitting all claims for past debts against the Abbot and Convent of Saint Alban's, 2nd August 1301.}} "Edwardus, Dei gratia, Rex Angliæ, Dominus Hiberniæ, et Dux Aquitanniæ, Thesaurario et Baronibus suis de Scacario, salutem. Sciatis quod pro remissione quam dilecti nobis in Christo Abbas et Conventus de Sancto Albano nobis fecerunt, tam de illis mille marcis quas ab eis, pro quibusdam arduis negotiis nostris expediendis, mutuo recepimus, de <ref>''peccunia'' in MS.</ref>pecunia decimæ in subsidium Terræ Sanctæ a clero regni nostri nuper concesse, eisdem Abbati et Covnentui nomine Summi Pontificis liberata, in deposito custodienda, et quas idem Abbas et Covnentus postmodum pro nobis dicto Summo Pontifici solverunt: quam de aliis debitis quibuscunque, in quibus eis, ex quacunque causa, usque ad diem confectioni præsentium <ref>??? in MS., erroneously</ref>tenebamus; necnon et pro trecentis marcis quas idem Abbas et Covnentus nobis, in subsidium expeditionis nostræ Scotiæ, jam dederunt:—perdonavimus eis omnia debita, in quibus ipsi nobis ex quacunque causa usque ad diem prædictum tenebantur; volentes et concedentes, pro nobis et hæredibus nostris, quod iidem Abbas et Conventus de debitis prædictis penitus sint quieti, prout in litteris patentibus, eisdem Abbati et Conventui inde confectis, plenius continetur. Et ideo vobis mandamus quod ipsos Abbatem et Covnentum de debitis prædictis quictos esse faciatis, juxta tenorem litterarum nostrarum prædictarum. Teste meipso, apud Pebb[l}es secundo die Augusti, anno regni nostri vicesimo nono."
==== DE <ref>??? in MS., by inadvertence.</ref>allocationibus diversis tempore prædicti Abbatis, per industriam D???? Johannis Sternache. Cellerarii Sancti Albani permisitis. ====
{{Marginalia sinistra|By reason of each other, certain debts are remitted by the Exchequer.}} Anne igitur Domini millesimo trecentesimo tertio, Frater Johannes de <ref>Correctly ''Sternache''.</ref>Stihenache,—cujus animæ propitietur DEus, tunc Cellerarius. Domini Johannis de<noinclude>{{hr}}
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{{rh||{{Capituli|Monasterii Sancti Albani.}}|71}}</noinclude>{{Marginalia dextra|<center>John IV.,<br/>26th<br/>Abbot,<br/>A.D.<br/>1302–8.{{hr}}</center>}} Maryns, Abbatis ejusdem, attornatus, coram Baronibus de Scacario, apud Eboracum, inter cætera multa bona opera quæ frequenter expedivit, istas debitorum allocationes subscriptas efficaciter et prudenter impetravit; quæ inseruntur in Magno Rotulo.—
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{{Marginalia dextra|Official record, from the Great Roll, of the debts then allowed.}} In Magno Rotulo tricesimo.—
In Essexia, Abba de Sancto Albano reddit compotum de {{sc|dcccxiii}}. marcis, x. s. i. d., pro blado in stauro, et aliis exitibus Abbathiæ prædictæ, tempore vacationis venditis, sicut continetur in Rotulo vicesimo secundo. In Thesauro cccxlii. l. x. s. viii. d., in quinque talliis; et debet cclxiiii. l., xiiii. s. vi. d.; et respondebit infra.
Abbas de Sancto Albano reddit compotum de trecentis marcis, quas idem Abbas dedit Regi in subsidium expeditionis Regis Scotiæ, sicut continetur in Originali anni vicesimi noni, pro habenda perdonatione debitorum. In Thesauro liber, et quietus est.
Item, Abbas de Sancto Albano reddit compotum de cciiii. l. ix. s. x. d. obol., pro Priore et Conventu Dunelmensi, collectoribus, de subsidio Regi a clero concesso, anno vicesimo secundo finiente, incipiente vicesimo tertio, in Episcopatu Dunelmensi, de medietate bonorum spiritualium et temporalium Prioratus de Tynemutha, quæ est Cella Abbathæ de Sancto Albano, in Episcopatu Dunelmensi; sicut continetur in Memorando anni vicesimi tertii.
Et lxxxv. l. xvii. s. vi. d., pro eisdem Priore et Conventu Dunelmensi, de hujusmodi subsidio medietatis beneficiorum ecclesiasticorum ipsius Abatis ibidem, sicut continetur ibidem.<noinclude>{{hr}}
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