WikiWoordenboek nlwiktionary https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Hoofdpagina MediaWiki 1.46.0-wmf.21 case-sensitive Media Speciaal Overleg Gebruiker Overleg gebruiker WikiWoordenboek Overleg WikiWoordenboek Bestand Overleg bestand MediaWiki Overleg MediaWiki Sjabloon Overleg sjabloon Help Overleg help Categorie Overleg categorie TimedText TimedText talk Module Overleg module Event Event talk 4 2688 5504002 5501655 2026-03-30T12:20:47Z MarcoSwart 9001 /* Kandidatuur Latijn als moderator */ nieuwe subkop 5504002 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>__NEWSECTIONLINK__ __NOINDEX__ {{De_kroeg}}</noinclude> <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Per kalenderjaar:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2004|2004]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2005|2005]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2006|2006]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2007|2007]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2008|2008]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2009|2009]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2010|2010]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011|2011]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2012|2012]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2013|2013]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2014|2014]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2015|2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • <!-- [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2026|2026]] • --> [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|heden]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Werklijst|werklijst]] </div><section end=nav/> == Weergave actuele Franse spellingvarianten == De weerstand tegen de spellingverbetering van 1990 heeft geleid tot een situatie waarin zowel de "traditionele spelling" ''(orthographe traditionnelle)'' als de "verbeterde spelling" ''(orthographe rectifiée)'' worden gebruikt en officiële status hebben. In dit geval is onze gebruikelijke werkwijze met {{Tl|oudeschrijfwijze}} minder passend, temeer omdat vooral in Frankrijk zelf de traditionele spelling nog heel gangbaar is. In het verleden zijn hiervoor de sjablonen "fr-orth-trad" en "fr-orth-rect" aangemaakt, maar deze sjablonen werken niet zo prettig in combinatie met sjablonen die een verbogen of vervoegde vorm beschrijven. Het is typografisch ook wat verwarrend om informatie over schrijfwijzen niet onder dat kopje, maar op de trefwoordregel te geven, die eigenlijk zelf als een kopje is bedoeld. [[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Overleg met Jochenknabben]] die het afgelopen jaar vele duizenden Franse lemma's heeft toegevoegd, heeft een oplossing opgeleverd in de vorm van twee nieuwe sjablonen: {{Tl|-writ-fra-t-}} en {{Tl|-writ-fra-r-}}. Deze zorgen voor een consistente presentatie van informatie over deze spellingvarianten, ook op lemma's met verbogen en vervoegde vormen. Voorbeelden zijn te zien op {{Q|île|fra}}, {{Q|îles|fra}}, {{Q|ile|fra}}, {{Q|iles|fra}}. Dit levert ook een [[:Categorie:Verbeterde spelling Frans van 1990|categorie van woorden uit de verbeterde spelling]] op. Om te zien hoe het in de praktijk werkt, kunnen deze sjablonen op nieuwe lemma's worden gebruikt. Afhankelijk van de reacties hier staat mij voor ogen om over 4 weken om op bestaande pagina's de oude sjablonen door de nieuwe te vervangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:50 (CEST) :{{done}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2025 15:39 (CET) ::In aanvulling op het bovenstaande is ook nog het sjabloon {{Tl|fr-orth}} aangemaakt, dat gebruikt kan worden in de gevallen dat categorisering en het automatisch ingevoegde kopje ongewenst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:34 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-40</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W40"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/40|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * A major software upgrade has been made to [[phab:|Phabricator]]. The update introduces performance improvements, a refreshed search interface, enhancements to Maniphest task search, updates to user profile pages and project workboards, new Herald automation features, as well as general text input, mobile experience improvements and more. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/post/view/321/iterative_improvements_september_2025/] '''Updates for editors''' * The Community Tech team will release the new Community Wishlist extension on October 1, that will improve the way wishes will be submitted. The new extension will allow users to add tags to their wishes to better categorise them, and (in a future iteration) to filter them by status, tags and focus areas. It will also be possible to support individual wishes again, as requested by the community in many instances. The old system will be retired. There will be a brief period of downtime while the extension is deployed and wishes are migrated to the new system. You can read more about this [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/Updates|in the latest update]] or you can consult the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CommunityRequests|current documentation on MediaWiki]]. * As announced [[diffblog:2025/09/02/better-detecting-bots-and-replacing-our-captcha/|on Diff blog]], the production trial of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Anti-abuse signals/hCaptcha|hCaptcha]] service for bot detection has begun. The trial is currently using hCaptcha to protect account creation on Chinese, Persian, Portuguese, Indonesian, Japanese, and Turkish Wikipedias, where it will replace our existing [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:ConfirmEdit#FancyCaptcha|CAPTCHA]] (FancyCaptcha). The goal with the trial is to better block bots while also improving usability and accessibility for users who encounter CAPTCHA challenges. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents]] extension has been [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|deployed]] to Wikimedia Commons. The extension makes it easier to organize and participate in collaborative activities, like edit-a-thons and WikiProjects, on the wikis. On Commons, anyone who is a registered user can use it as an event participant. To use it as an organizer, someone needs to have the [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Event organizers|event organizer right]]. * [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing|Sub-referencing]], a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to German Wikipedia. You can [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#test|test the feature]] on testwiki or [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmcloud.org/wiki/Sub-referencing on betawiki] as well. Please share your thoughts on [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Templates used in sub-references|using templates in sub-references]] or [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Pilot wikis|volunteer to become a pilot wiki]]. * On wikis using the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Mentorship|Mentorship]] system, communities can now opt experienced editors out of Mentorship through [[{{#special:CommunityConfiguration/Mentorship}}]]. Within this setting, communities may define thresholds, based on edit count and account age, to decide when an editor is considered experienced enough to no longer receive Mentorship. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403563] * The Editing Team and the Machine Learning Team are working on a new check for newcomers: [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Tone Check|Tone check]]. Using a prediction model, this check will encourage editors to improve the tone of their edits, using artificial intelligence. We invite volunteers to review the first version of the Tone language model for the following languages: Arabic, Czech, German, Hebrew, Indonesian, Dutch, Polish, Russian, Turkish, Chinese, Farsi, Italian, Norwegian, Romanian and Latvian. Users from these wikis interested in reviewing this model are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit_check/Tone_Check/Model_evaluation|invited to sign up at MediaWiki.org]]. The deadline to sign up is on October 3, which will be the start date of the test. * The rollout of [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Manage blocks|multiblocks]] had the side effect that non-active block logs may have been shown on {{#special:Contributions}} and on blocked users' user and user_talk pages. This issue will be fully resolved in a few days. As part of the fix, [{{fullurl:Special:Allmessages|prefix=sp-contributions-blocked-notice}} messages prefixed with <code>sp-contributions-blocked-notice</code>] will be removed and replaced with [{{fullurl:Special:Allmessages|prefix=blocked-notice-logextract}} those prefixed with <code>blocked-notice-logextract</code>] in a few weeks. Please help translate the new messages and update any local overrides if needed. * There was a bug with links added using visual editor if they included characters such as <code dir=ltr><nowiki>[ ] |</nowiki></code> after the fragment identifier (<code><nowiki>#</nowiki></code>). They were not encoded properly creating an incorrect link. This has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404823] * One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote/en}} in [[d:Q9237|Malay]] ([[q:ms:|<code>q:ms:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404698] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Anti-abuse signals/User Info|User Info Card]] now displays currently active global lock/blocks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401128] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Later this week, editors using Lua modules will be able to use the <code>[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.title.newBatch|mw.title.newBatch]]</code> function to look up the existence of up to 25 pages at once, in a way that only increases the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parser functions#Expensive parser functions|expensive function]] count once. * A new [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|Unsupported Tools Working Group]] has been formed as part of ongoing efforts to collectively determine technical work priorities, similar to the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product & Technology Advisory Council]] (PTAC). The working group will help prioritize and review requests for support of unmaintained extensions, gadgets, bots, and tools. For the first cycle, the group will be prioritizing an unsupported Wikimedia Commons tool. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/40|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W40"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 29 sep 2025 22:53 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29355230 --> == Upcoming Dark Mode user interface rollout for anonymous Wikimedia sites users == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> {{int:Hello}} Wikimedians, Apologies if this message is not in your language. {{int:please-translate}}. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web|Reader Experience team]] will launch the Dark mode feature for anonymous users on all Wikimedia sites, including yours, on October 29, 2025. [[:en:Special:MyLanguage/Light-on-dark color scheme|Dark mode]] is an option that allows users to view pages in light-coloured text, and icons on a dark background. Once it is available for anonymous users, they can enable it when using various devices. More information on ways to enable it can be found on [[:en:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia:Dark mode#Options for anyone|this page]]. Given many pages are still not compatible with dark mode this will be an opt-in feature and not automatically apply to pages. Dark mode requires modifications to content pages and templates, and since our initial launch [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/07/17/dark-modes-bright-future-how-dark-mode-will-transform-wikipedias-accessibility/ in July 2024], we have been working with communities and helping them prepare for dark mode. Before the rollout, it is essential that template authors and technical contributors test dark mode and read [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|this page]] to learn how to make pages Dark mode-ready and address any compatibility issues found in templates. We will fix most color compatibility issues only on the most-viewed pages on projects with over 5 million monthly page views. Technical contributors with an account should opt into dark mode currently using preferences or settings and test pages and seek help before the release to ensure everything complies before the enablement. If you have any questions or need help, please [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading#|contact the Reader Experience team]] for support. Thank you! </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:UOzurumba (WMF)|UOzurumba (WMF)]]</bdi> 30 sep 2025 04:08 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:UOzurumba_(WMF)/sandbox_Dark_mode_deployment_mass_message_list_(October_2025)&oldid=29358561 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-41</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W41"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/41|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#paste|Paste Check]] is a new Edit Check feature to help avoid and fight copyright violations. When editors paste text into an article, Paste Check prompts them to confirm the origin and licensing of the content. Starting Wednesday, 8 October, [[phab:T403680|22 wikis will test Paste Check]]. Paste Check will help new volunteers understand and follow the policies and guidelines necessary to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia projects. '''Updates for editors''' * Mobile devices will receive mobile articles directly on the standard domain (like <code>en.wikipedia.org</code>), instead of via a redirect to an "m" domain (like <code>en.m.wikipedia.org</code>). This change improves performance. This week it will be enabled on Wikipedias. The existing mobile URLs and the "Desktop view" opt-out remain available. [[mw:Requests for comment/Mobile domain sunsetting/2025 Announcement|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998] * New [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:CirrusSearch#creationdate and lasteditdate|date filters]], <code dir=ltr>creationdate:</code> and <code dir=ltr>lasteditdate:</code>, are now available in the wiki search engine. This allows users to filter search results by a page's first or last revision date. The filters support comparison operators (e.g. <code dir=ltr>>2024</code>) and relative dates (e.g. <code dir=ltr>today-1d</code>), making it easier to find recently updated content or pages within specific age ranges. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403593] * [[f:|Wikifunctions]] now supports rich text in embedded calls across the 150 wikis where it's enabled. To showcase this, the team created a [[f:Z26333|Latin declination table]] that Wiktionary editors can use to automatically generate noun forms, producing clear, formatted results — see an [[f:Wikifunctions:Embedded function calls/Wiktionary tables demonstration|example output]]. If you need any help or have any feedback, please [[f:Wikifunctions:Project chat|contact the Wikifunctions Team]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T397402] * An edit link will now appear inside the categories box on article pages for logged in users, which will directly launch the VisualEditor category dialog. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T291691] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:34}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:34|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, there was a problem downloading pdf files last week and that has been resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405957] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The field <code dir=ltr>rev_sha1</code> in the revision database table is being removed in favor of <code dir=ltr>content_sha1</code> in the content database table. See [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/2D2M3SP4WHR6BXXKTZ2PBLZQYR3EGQVR/ the announcement] for more information. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web|Reader Experience team]] will roll out [[w:en:Light-on-dark color scheme|Dark Mode]] user interface on all Wikimedia sites on October 29, 2025. All anonymous users of Wikimedia sites will have the option to activate a color scheme that features light-colored text on a dark background. This is designed to provide a more comfortable reading experience, especially in low-light situations. Template authors and technical contributors are encouraged to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|learn how to make pages ready for Dark mode]] and address any compatibility issues found in templates in their wiki before the enablement. Please contact the Web team for questions or any support on [[mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading#|this talk page]] before the enablement. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395628] * Starting on Monday, October 6, API endpoints under the <code>rest.php</code> path will be rerouted through a new internal API Gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the [[phab:tag/serviceops/|Service Ops team board]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T400130] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.22|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/41|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W41"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 6 okt 2025 19:23 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29400897 --> == haakje openen i haakjesluiten toegevoegd bij het inhoudssjabloon van een lemma na editten en opslaan == er wordt momenteel <nowiki><i></nowiki> toegevoegd aan de ingangen van het inhoud van een lemma als je een artikel edit en weer opslaat. Dit is niet te zien als je artikel aan het editten bent en ook als je niets veranderd gebeurt dat zie bijvoorbeeld het lemma breder. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:30 (CEST) probleem lijkt te zijn opgelost. :Dit probleem werd veroorzaakt door een foutje in een update van de Wikimediaprogrammatuur. Het is ondertussen opgelost. Zie [[Overleg_gebruiker:MarcoSwart#schuin_gedrukte_inhoud|dit overleg]] voor meer details. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 12:47 (CEST) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Have your say: vote for the 2025 Board of Trustees</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> Hello all, The voting period for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|2025 Board of Trustees election]] is now open. Candidates are running for two (2) seats on the Board. To check your voter eligibility, please visit the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Voter eligibility guidelines|voter eligibility page]]. Learn more about them by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidates|reading their application statements and watch their candidacy videos]]. When you are ready, go to the [[m:Special:SecurePoll/vote/405|SecurePoll voting page to vote]]. '''The vote is open from October 8 at 00:00 UTC to October 22 at 23:59 UTC.''' Best regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi<br />Chair, Elections Committee<section end="announcement-content" /> </div> [[Gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 06:49 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:RamzyM (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29360896 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-42</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W42"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/42|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Last week, improvements to account security and two-factor authentication (2FA) features were enabled across all wikis. These changes include user interface improvements for [https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:AccountSecurity Special:AccountSecurity], the support of multiple 2FA methods via authenticator apps and portable security keys (previously users could only enable one method), and a new Recovery Codes module which facilitates fewer account lockouts due to lost two-factor apps and devices. As part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] project, work is continuing through the rest of 2025 on further user experience improvements, and support for passkeys as an alternate second factor. '''Updates for editors''' * Another part of the Account security project is making 2FA generally available to all users. Along with editors with advanced privileges, such as administrators and bureaucrats, 40% of editors now have access to 2FA. You can check if you have access at [https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:AccountSecurity Special:AccountSecurity]. Instructions for activation are on the linked page. The plan is to continue increasing availability if it is determined that the user support capabilities are able to support global usage. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T400579] * This week, users at wikis where talk page [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability|Usability Improvements]] are already available by default (everywhere ''except'' the 12 wikis listed in [[phab:T379264|T379264]]) will gain the ability to Thank a comment directly from the talk page it appears on. Before this change, Thanking could only be done by visiting the revision history of the talk page. You can [[diffblog:2025/10/13/revolutionizing-gratitude-a-new-era-of-thanking-comments/|learn more about this change]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366095] * Users who have not [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal-email|verified their email address]] will soon be receiving monthly Notification reminders to do so. This is because users who have verified their email can more easily recover their account. These reminders will not be sent if the user is inactive or removes the unverified email from their account. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Email_confirmation][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58074] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a fix was made for an occasional error with saving translated paragraphs in the Content Translation tool, and the related error messages are now easier to see. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376531] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The Unsupported Tools Working Group has chosen [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2Commons]] as the first tool for its pilot cycle. The group will explore ways to improve and sustain the tool over the coming months. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|Learn more on Meta]]. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.23|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/42|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W42"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 13 okt 2025 20:59 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29434481 --> == Report concerning User:~2025-28143-59 == [[Special:Contributions/~2025-28143-59|~2025-28143-59]] &ndash; Vandalism. Long-term abuse <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small> --[[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19|Nvdtn19]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Nvdtn19|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 14:05 (CEST) :Deze melding lijkt te berusten op een vergissing door een vandalismebestrijder die geen Nederlands spreekt. Ik heb hem hierop aangesproken via zijn gebruikerspagina. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 15:47 (CEST) == Help ons een naam te kiezen voor Abstract Wikipedia == <section begin="function1"/> {{int:Hello}}! Help ons alsjeblieft een naam te kiezen voor het nieuwe wikiproject Abstract Wikipedia. Dit project wordt een wiki waar gebruikers functies van [[:f:|Wikifuncties]] en gegevens van Wikidata kunnen combineren om zinnen te genereren in alle ondersteunde talen. Deze zinnen kunnen vervolgens worden gebruikt door elke Wikipedia (of elders). Er zullen twee stemrondes zijn, elk gevolgd door een juridische beoordeling van de kandidaten. De stemmingen beginnen op 20 oktober en 17 november 2025. Ons doel is om medio december 2025 een definitieve projectnaam te kiezen. Als je wilt deelnemen, '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|klik dan hier voor meer informatie en stem nu]]''' op meta-wiki. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}} <section end="function1"/> -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 20 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29432175 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-43</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W43"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/43|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * To optimize how user data is stored in our databases, the saved preferences of users who haven't logged in for over five years and have fewer than 100 edits will be cleared. When those users return, default settings will apply. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406724] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, there was a broken link from the GlobalContributions interface message to the XTools GlobalContributions page which has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406415] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The work to reroute all traffic to API endpoints under the <code dir=ltr><nowiki>rest.php</nowiki></code> route through a common API gateway is now complete. If any issues are observed, please file a phabricator ticket to the [[phab:tag/serviceops/|Service Ops team board]]. * Edits to Wikidata references or qualifiers will now be shown in RecentChanges and Watchlist entries on other wikis less often, reducing unnecessary notifications. This will reduce the overall quantity of 'noisy' entries. Wikidata's own pages remain unchanged. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401290] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.24|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/43|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W43"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 20 okt 2025 21:36 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29478670 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-44</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W44"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The Wikipedia iOS app has launched an A/B/C test of improvements made to the tabbed browsing feature for select regions and languages. The test, named “More dynamic tabs”, explores new tab experiences and includes “Did you know” and “Because you read” article recommendations. You can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/Tabbed Browsing (Tabs)/New Tab Experience and Recommendations Experiment|read more on the project page]]. * Autoconfirmed users on [[git:operations/mediawiki-config/+/a2d2aaab9ace84280dd2f4c70a33bb69cd73850f/dblists/small.dblist|small]] and [[git:operations/mediawiki-config/+/a2d2aaab9ace84280dd2f4c70a33bb69cd73850f/dblists/medium.dblist|medium wikis]] with the CampaignEvents extension can now use [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event Center/Registration|Event Registration]] without the Event Organizer right. This feature lets organizers enable registration, manage participants, and lets users register with one click instead of signing event pages. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue of flashing colors when holding or pressing the arrow keys under the dark mode settings in Vector 2022 has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402285] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The CampaignEvents extension will be deployed to all remaining wikis during the week of 17 November 2025. The extension currently includes three features: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation List. For this rollout, Invitation List will not be enabled on Wikifunctions and MediaWiki unless requested by those communities. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|Visit the deployment page to learn more]]. * The SwaggerUI-based REST sandbox experience is now live on all wiki projects. The sandbox can be accessed through the [[{{#special:RestSandbox}}]] page. Please report any issues to the MediaWiki Interfaces team board, or join the discussion on the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Interfaces Team/Feature Feedback/REST Sandbox|project launch]] page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/6931/] * Transform endpoints with a trailing slash path in the MediaWiki REST API are now marked as deprecated. They will remain functional during this time, but removal is expected by the end of January 2026. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found and tested using the [https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?api=mw-extra&title=Special%3ARestSandbox REST Sandbox]. See the [[mw:API/Deprecation|MediaWiki REST API Deprecation]] page for more detailed information about the API deprecation policies and procedures. * A dedicated [[mw:API:REST API/Changelog|changelog now exists for the MediaWiki REST API]]. The changelog provides an overview of these changes, making it easier for developers to keep track of improvements and iterations. Announcements will also continue to flow through the standard communication channels, including Tech News and email distribution lists, but can now be more easily referenced from a central location. If you have feedback about the style, structure, or content of this changelog, please [[mw:API talk:REST API/Changelog|join the discussion]]. * Administrators can delete the tracking category which was previously added by the JsonConfig extension, as it is no longer used. See the categories linked from [[d:Q130635582#sitelinks-wikipedia|Q130635582]]. It is OK if there are still pages listed in the category as that is just a caching issue, and they will be automatically cleared out the next time each page is edited. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T378352] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.25|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W44"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 27 okt 2025 20:31 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29513638 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers. Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages: * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Affiliations Committee|Affiliations Committee (AffCom)]] * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Ombuds commission|Ombuds commission (OC)]] * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Community Resilience and Sustainability/Trust and Safety/Case Review Committee|Case Review Committee (CRC)]] Applications for the committees open on October 30, 2025. Applications for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on December 11, 2025. Learn how to apply by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Committee appointments|visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki]]. Post to the talk page or email cst[[File:At sign.svg|16x16px|link=|(_AT_)]]wikimedia.org with any questions you may have. For the Committee Support team, <section end="announcement-content" /> </div> -[[m:User:MKaur (WMF)| MKaur (WMF)]] 30 okt 2025 15:14 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:MKaur (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29517125 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-45</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W45"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/45|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Administrators will now find that [[{{#special:MergeHistory}}]] is now significantly more flexible about what it can merge. It can now merge sections taken from the middle of the history of the source (rather than only the start) and insert revisions anywhere in the history of the destination page (rather than only the start). [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T382958] * For users with "{{int:discussiontools-preference-autotopicsub}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|enabled in their preferences]], starting a new topic or adding a reply to an existing topic will now subscribe them to replies to that topic. Previously, this would only happen if the DiscussionTools "{{int:Skin-action-addsection}}" or "{{int:Discussiontools-replybutton}}" widgets were used. When DiscussionTools was originally launched existing accounts were not opted in to automatic topic subscriptions, so this change should primarily affect newer accounts and users who have deliberately changed their preferences since that time. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290778] * Scribunto modules can now be used to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#SVG library|generate SVG images]]. This can be used to build charts, graphics and other visualizations dynamically through Lua, reducing the need to compose them externally and upload them as files. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405861] * Wikimedia sites now provide all anonymous users with the option to enable a dark mode color scheme, featuring light-colored text on a dark background. This enhancement aims to deliver a more enjoyable reading experience, especially in dimly lit environments. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395628] * Users with large watchlists have long faced timeouts when editing [[Special:EditWatchlist|Special:EditWatchlist]]. The page now loads entries in smaller sections instead of all at once due to a paging update, allowing everyone to edit their watchlists smoothly. As part of the database update, sorting by expiry has been removed because it was over 100× slower than sorting by title. A [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/W454 community wish] has been created to explore alternative ways to restore sort-by-expiry. If this feature is important to you, please support the wish! [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41510] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the fixing of the persisting highlighting when using VisualEditor find and replace during a query. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T407318] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Since 2019 the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia URL Shortener|Wikimedia URL Shortener]] at https://w.wiki is available for all Wikimedia wikis to create short links to articles, permalinks, diffs, etc. It is available in the sidebar as "Get shortened URL". There are 30 wikis that also install an older "ShortUrl" extension. The old extension will soon be removed. This means <code>/s/</code> URLs will not be advertised under article titles via HTML <code dir=ltr>class="title-shortlink"</code>. The <code>/s/</code> URLs will keep working. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107188] * On Thursday, October 30, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Interfaces Team|MediaWiki Interfaces]] and [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Site Reliability Engineering|SRE Service Operations]] teams began rerouting Action API traffic through a common API gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/serviceops/ Service Ops team] board. * MediaWiki Train deployments will pause for the final two weeks of 2025: 22 December and 29 December. Backport windows will also pause between Monday, 22 December 2025 and Thursday, 2 January 2026. A backport window is a scheduled time to add things like bug fixes and configuration changes. There are seven deployment trains remaining for 2025. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/SMWTEAES4SDLDUSK4HMWNBSKNCXZAWYN/] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.26|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * In 2025, the Wikimedia Foundation reported that AI systems and search engines increasingly use Wikipedia content without driving users to the site, contributing to an 8% drop in human pageviews compared to 2024. After detecting bots disguised as humans, Wikimedia updated its traffic data to reflect this shift. Read more about current user trends on Wikipedia in [[diffblog:2025/10/17/new-user-trends-on-wikipedia/|a Diff blog post]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/45|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W45"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 3 nov 2025 20:34 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29552512 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-46</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W46"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/46|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' [[File:Talk pages default look (April 2023).jpg|thumb|alt=Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages|Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.]] * Starting November 12, users will see a change in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Feature summary#Usability improvements|appearance of talk pages]] on [[Phab:T379264|some Wikipedias]]. Almost [[phab:T392121|all wikis]] have received this design change; [[phab:T409297|English Wikipedia]] will get these changes later. You can read more [[diffblog:2024/05/02/making-talk-pages-better-for-everyone/|on ''Diff'']]. Users can opt out of these changes [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|in their user preferences]] in "{{int:discussiontools-preference-visualenhancements}}". [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T379264] * MediaWiki can now display a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Protection indicators|page indicator]] automatically while a page is protected. This feature is disabled by default. It can be enabled by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Requesting wiki configuration changes|community request]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12347] * Using the "{{int:showpreview}}" or "{{int:showdiff}}" buttons in the wikitext editor will now carry over certain URL parameters like '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parameters to index.php#useskin|useskin]]', '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parameters to index.php#uselang|uselang]]' and '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Section#Editing sections|section]]'. This update also fixes an issue where, if the browser crashed while previewing an edit to a single section, saving this edit could overwrite the entire page with just that section’s content. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62744][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24029][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155097] * Wikivoyage wikis can use [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Kartographer#Markers and counters|colored map markers in the article text]]. The text of these markers will now be shown in contrasting black or white color, instead of always being white. Local workarounds for the problem can be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T369454] * The Activity tab in the Wikipedia Android app is now available for all users. The new tab offers personalized insights into reading, editing, and donation activity, while simplifying navigation and making app use more engaging. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/Activity_Tab_Experiment] * The Reader Growth team is launching an experiment called "Image browsing" to test how to make it easier for readers to browse and discover images on Wikipedia articles. This experiment, a mobile-only A/B test, will go live on English Wikipedia in the week of November 17 and will run for four weeks, affecting 0.05% of users on English wiki. The test launched on November 3 on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese wikis, affecting up to 10% of users on those wikis. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Reader_Growth/WE3.1.3_Image_Browsing] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:27}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:27|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example the inability to lock accounts on mobile sites has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256185] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[wikitech:Help talk:Toolforge/Toolforge standards committee#November 2025 committee nominations|Nominations are open on Wikitech]] for new [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Toolforge standards committee|Toolforge standards committee]] members. The committee oversees the Toolforge [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Right to fork policy|Right to fork policy]] and [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Abandoned tool policy|Abandoned tool policy]] among other duties. Nominations will remain open through 2025-11-28. * The [[w:JSON Web Token#Standard fields|JWT issuer field]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/For Developers#OAuth 2|OAuth 2 access tokens]] for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|SUL wikis]] has been changed to <code><nowiki>https://meta.wikimedia.org</nowiki></code>. Old access tokens will still work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399199] * The [[w:JSON Web Token#Standard fields|JWT subject field]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/For Developers#OAuth 2|OAuth 2 access tokens]] will soon change from <code><user id></code> to <code dir=ltr style="white-space:nowrap">mw:<identity type>:<user id></code>, where <code><identity type></code> is typically <code dir=ltr>CentralAuth:</code><!-- not a typo --> (for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|SUL wikis]]) or <code dir=ltr style="white-space:nowrap">local:<wiki id></code> (for other wikis). This is to avoid conflicts between different user ID types, and to make OAuth 2 access tokens and the <code>sessionJwt</code> cookie more similar. Old access tokens will still work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399199] * MediaWiki's block messages ([[MediaWiki:Blockedtext|blockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext-partial|blockedtext-partial]], [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext|autoblockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Systemblockedtext|systemblockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext-tempuser|blockedtext-tempuser]], [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext-tempuser|autoblockedtext-tempuser]]) now support additional parameters indicating whether the user is blocked from editing their own user talk page <code><nowiki>$9</nowiki></code> or emailing other users <code><nowiki>$</nowiki><nowiki>10</nowiki></code>. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285612] * A <code>REL1_45</code> branch for MediaWiki core and each of the extensions and skins in Wikimedia git has been created. This is the first step in the release process for MediaWiki 1.45.0, scheduled for late November 2025. If you are working on a critical bug fix or working on a new feature, you may need to take note of this change. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/ZUY7TY3Z6XPZWZVAZV63OPO5OW52Q6GE/] * The process for generating CirrusSearch dumps has been updated due to slowing performance. If you encounter any issues migrating to the replacement dumps, please contact the Search Platform Team for support. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366248][https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/3KQPOR6ACVN6OVLMLZPIBXQSWQKW4E3K/] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.2|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/46|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W46"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 10 nov 2025 21:38 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29606150 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-47</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W47"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/47|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|Reader Experience team]] is experimenting with [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience/WE3.3.4_Reading lists|reading lists on mobile web]], allowing logged-in readers with no edits to save private lists of articles for later. The experiment is running on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias since the week of 10 November, and will begin on English Wikipedia the week of 17 November. * Users who can’t receive their email verification code during login can now get help by submitting a form on a new special page. This update is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] initiative. If your account has an email address, please make sure you still have access to it. When logging in from a new device or location without 2FA, you may be asked to enter a 6-digit code sent by email to finish logging in. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security#Why are you requiring me to enter a code from my email to log in? Can I opt out of this?|Learn more]]. * One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikisource}} in [[d:Q13324|Minangkabau]] ([[s:min:|<code>s:min:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408317] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * As part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser Unification|Parser Unification]] project, the Content Transform Team rolled out Parsoid as the default parser to many low-traffic Wikipedias and is preparing the next step to high traffic ones. This message is an invitation for you to opt-in to Parsoid, as described in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserMigration|Extension:ParserMigration]] documentation, and identify any issues you might encounter with your own workflow using bots, gadgets, or user scripts. Please, let us know through the ''"Report Visual Bug"'' link in the Tools sidebar or create a phab ticket and tag the [[phab:project/view/5846|Content Transform Team in Phabricator]]. * Unsupported Tools: Several issues with [[:c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2Commons]] have been fixed, including filename-related upload failures, black-video imports, and retry handling. AV1 support has also been added. Ongoing work focuses on backend stability, ffmpeg errors, subtitle imports, metadata handling, and playlist uploads. To track specific tasks, check the [[phab:tag/video2commons/|Phabricator board]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.3|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * Save the date for the next Wikimedia Hackathon happening in Milan, Italy from May 1–3, 2026. Registration will open in January 2026. [https://pretix.eu/wikimedia/Hackathon-2026/ Scholarship applications are currently open], and will close on November 28, 2025. If you have any questions, please email <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">hackathon@wikimedia.org</bdi>. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/47|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W47"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 17 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29627455 --> == Herinnering: Help ons een naam te kiezen voor Abstract Wikipedia == <section begin="function2"/> {{int:Hello}}! Herinnering: help ons alsjeblieft bij het kiezen van een naam voor het nieuwe wikiproject Abstract Wikipedia. De stemming over de finalisten begint vandaag. De finalisten voor de naam zijn: <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Abstract Wikipedia, Multilingual Wikipedia, Wikiabstracts, Wikigenerator, Proto-Wiki</span>. Als je wilt deelnemen, '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|klik dan hier voor meer informatie en stem nu]]''' op meta-wiki. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}} <section end="function2"/> -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 20 nov 2025 15:23 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29583860 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-48</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W48"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/48|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Last week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Search Platform|Wikimedia Search Team]] recreated the "DWIM" (Do What I Mean) gadget functionality server-side, for Russian and Hebrew Wikipedias. This feature adds cross-keyboard suggestions to the standard search-box suggestions. For example, searching for ''<span lang="und" dir="ltr">cxfcnmt</span>'' on Russian Wikipedia will now add suggestions for ''<span lang="ru" dir="ltr">счастье</span>'' ("happiness") that the user probably intended. They plan to enable this feature for other Russian and Hebrew wikis this week. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408734] * Later this week, users of the "{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]] will have syntax highlighting available in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]]. This requires that the "{{int:discussiontools-preference-sourcemodetoolbar}}" preference be set. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T407918] * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|Campaign events extension]] – the set of tools for coordinating events and other on-wiki collaborations has now been deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. A new feature known as [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Collaborative contributions|Collaborative contribution]] to help organizers and participants see the impact of activities has also been added. Join the upcoming [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event:Connection learning session 3|learning session]] to see the new feature in action and share your feedback. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:24}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:24|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug which stopped CodeReviewBot from working, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410417] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Users of Wikimedia API can join a usability study to help validate the new design of Wikimedia REST API sandboxes. Interested participants should fill the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/487662 recruitment survey]. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/IREJRRWTZTGCYWQHDMSNJFTQAEPOOAE3/] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is deprecating XSLT stylesheets within the Action API. Support for <code dir=ltr>format=xml'''&xlst={stylesheet}'''</code> will be removed from Wikimedia projects by the end of November, 2025. In addition, it will soon be disabled by default in MediaWiki release versions: v1.43 (LTS), v1.44, and v1.45. Support for XSLT stylesheets will be fully removed from MediaWiki v1.46 (expected to release between April and May 2026). [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/5AX7UWAVVUNUSBOIRHMNOKWOZ5EZI3JX/] * The WDQS legacy endpoint ([https://query-legacy-full.wikidata.org/ query-legacy-full.wikidata.org]) will be decommissioned at the end of December 2025, and finally closed down on 7th January 2026. After this date, users should expect requests to query.wikidata.org that require the full graph to fail or return invalid results if they are not rewritten to use SPARQL federation. The team encourages users to ensure that tools and workflows use the supported WDQS endpoints (<span dir=ltr><nowiki>https://query.wikidata.org/</nowiki></span> - Main graph or <span dir=ltr><nowiki>https://query-scholarly.wikidata.org/</nowiki></span> - Scholarly graph). For support with migrating use cases, please review the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Data_access|Data Access]] and [[d:Wikidata:Request_a_query|Request a Query]] pages for details and assistance on alternative access methods. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.4|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/48|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W48"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 24 nov 2025 16:56 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29702226 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-49</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W49"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/49|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The Wikipedia Year in Review 2025 will be available on December 2 for users of iOS and Android Wikipedia apps, featuring new personalized insights, updated reading highlights, and refreshed designs. Learn more on the review's [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Wikipedia Year in Review/Updates|project page]]. * The Growth team is working on improving the text and presentation of the Verification Email sent to new users to make them more welcoming, useful and informative. Some new text have been drafted for A/B testing and you can help by translating them. See [[phab:T396155|Phabricator]]. * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]] will now be deployed at Japanese, Urdu and Chinese Wikipedias on December 2. Add a link is based on a prediction model that suggests links to be added to articles. While this feature has already been available on most Wikipedias, the prediction model could not support certain languages. A new model has now been developed to handle these languages, and it will be gradually rolled out to other Wikipedias over time. If you would like to know more, please contact [[mw:user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek (WMF)]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:34}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:34|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where search boxes on some Commons pages showed no results due to switch from SpecialSearch to MediaSearch, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399476] * Two new wikis have been created: ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q36846|Toki Pona]] ([[w:tok:|<code>w:tok:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404457] ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote}} in [[d:Q33655|Nigerian Pidgin]] ([[q:pcm:|<code>q:pcm:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408318] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.5|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The Wikimedia Foundation is in the early stages of exploring approaches to '''Article guidance'''. The initiative aims to identify interventions that could help new editors easily understand and apply existing Wikipedia practices and policies when creating an article. The project is in the exploration and early experimental design phase. All community members are encouraged to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|learn more]] about the project, and share their thoughts on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Article guidance|the talk page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/49|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W49"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 1 dec 2025 19:58 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29732328 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-50</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W50"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/50|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Anybody who wishes to secure their user account can now use [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Two-factor authentication|two-factor authentication]] (2FA). This is available to all registered users of all Wikimedia projects. This is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] initiative. Later, 2FA will be required for all users who can take security- or privacy-sensitive actions. '''Updates for editors''' * Following last week's deployments, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]] feature, which allows editors to add suggested links during editing, will be available to an additional [[Phab:T410469|33 Wikipedias]] starting on 9 December. This expansion is possible thanks to the new prediction model that now supports all languages, including those that were previously not covered. While the feature has been available on most Wikipedias for some time, this rollout brings us closer to using the improved model everywhere. If you have any questions or would like more details please contact [[mw:user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek (WMF)]]. * Last week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Search Platform|Search Platform team]] added [[w:en:Transliteration|transliterated]] as-you-type search suggestions to Georgian wikis. If there are only a few regular search suggestions, then queries in Latin or Cyrillic script [[phab:T127003|are now rewritten into Georgian script]] to look for more matches. For example, searching for either <bdi lang="ka-Latn" dir="ltr">''bedniereba''</bdi> or <bdi lang="ka-Cyrl" dir="ltr">''бедниереба''</bdi> will now suggest the existing article about <bdi lang="ka" dir="ltr">ბედნიერება</bdi> ("happiness"). You can recommend other languages where transliterated suggestions would be useful [[phab:T375215|on Phabricator]] for future development. * Later this week, a controlled experiment will begin for editors on the 100 largest Wikipedias who are editing a section in the mobile web visual editor. 50% of these editors will notice a new "Edit full page" button that will enable them to expand their editing session to the whole page. This feature is intended to make it easier for people on mobile web to edit any article section, regardless of which section-edit icon they tapped to begin. The experiment will last ~4 weeks. You can find [[phab:T409112|more details]] about the project. * Later this week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth|Reader Growth team]] will launch a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth/WE3.1.14 Expanded Mobile Sections|mobile web experiment]] to expand all article sections by default (currently they are collapsed by default) and pin the section header the user is currently reading to the top of the page. The experiment will affect 10% of users on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409485] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Wikipedia Year in Review/2025 Year in Review|Wikipedia Year in Review 2025]], a feature in the Wikipedia mobile apps (iOS and Android) that provides users with a personalised summary of their engagement with Wikipedia over the year, is now available on the iOS and Android apps. This edition includes expanded personalised insights, improved reading highlights, new donor messaging, and updated designs. Open the app to view your Year in Review and explore your reading journey from 2025. * A recent software bug caused edits made with VisualEditor to make unintended changes to wikitext, including removing whitespace and replacing spaces with underscores in wikilinks inside citations. This was partially fixed last week, and further fixes are in progress. Editors who used VisualEditor between November 28 and December 2 should review their edits for unexpected modifications. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411238] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the incorrect handling of URLs copied from the address bar of Microsoft Edge users, has been resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341281] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Starting this week, users of the "{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]] will have [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] as the editor for Lua, JavaScript, CSS, JSON and Vue content models, instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]]. With this, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Linting|linters]] will be upgraded. This is part of a larger effort to eventually replace CodeEditor and provide a consistent code editing experience. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373711] * Developers are encouraged to take the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/552643 2025 Developer Satisfaction Survey], which remains open until 5 January 2026. If you build software for the Wikimedia ecosystem and would like to share your experiences or feedback, your participation is greatly appreciated. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/W4WBKO6Q55UWWCCSFWQATKEXBEHP3QNR/] * There is no new MediaWiki version this week. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/50|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W50"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 8 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29738112 --> == Miljonairs == Nadat we twee weken terug de mijlpaal van 600.000 pagina's met een Nederlands woord bereikten, is WikiWoordenboek ergens gisterenmiddag rond 17.14 uur het miljoen pagina's in de hoofdnaamruimte gepasseerd. Omdat er wel eens wat wordt gesomberd over de toekomst van het Nederlands: onze taal behoort nu tot de 6 talen die zowel een Wikipedia als een Wiktionary met meer dan 1 miljoen pagina's hebben (Engels, Frans, Duits, Chinees, Russisch en Nederlands). Ik verwacht dat het Zweeds zich komend jaar bij die groep gaat voegen. Terugtellend kom ik uit bij de [[muurzwelmossen]] als miljoenste woord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 07:41 (CET) :Op zich heel mooi (best wonderlijk ook dat de projecten in het Spaans en Portugees wat dit betreft blijkbaar nog achterlopen op het Nederlands, terwijl dat wereldwijd bezien veel grotere talen zijn), maar toch hecht ik zelf vooral aan het verbeteren van de inhoudelijke kwaliteit. :Verder wat het pure aantal betreft: het is me al veel langer opgevallen dat er erg veel import vanaf WP hierheen plaatsvindt, vooral van dierenartikelen (op WP zijn die eerder meestal massaal aangemaakt met een gebruikersbot, en over de inhoudelijke betrouwbaarheid is nog altijd geregeld discussie op WP). Daar is de huidige 1 miljoen dus vooral aan te danken. Wie voelt er iets voor een deelproject om die artikelen hier deels te herschrijven, bijvoorbeeld met een originelere definitie en waar nodig vooral lexicologische aanvullingen? (De definitie is nu nog heel vaak een letterlijk gekopieerde WP-intro.) :Een ander nu heel belangrijk verbeterpunt is het verder aanvullen van veel bestaande pagina's. Nu wordt een woord dat soms in tientallen talen dezelfde vorm heeft, hier vaak nog steeds alleen in het Nederlands beschreven. Ik heb zelf vooral kennis van de grotere Indo-Europese talen (Engels, Frans, Duits) maar niet van de meeste minder bekende talen. Het devies is, lijkt mij, zorgen dat er meer "externe krachten" hier actief worden. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 11:56 (CET) ::Met je slotzin ben ik het eens. Het helpt daarbij als we de mensen die hier lemma's toevoegen laten blijken dat we hun inspanning op prijs stellen en af en toe ook samen bereikte resultaten vieren. ::De lemma's over dieren vormen overigens maar enkele procenten van het miljoen pagina's. Inhoudelijk zijn ze in de regel prima in orde, wellicht omdat ze juist ''niet'' klakkeloos zijn overgenomen. Ik pas vrijwel dagelijks omschrijvingen aan zodat ze meer in een woordenboek passen, maar dat geldt niet alleen voor dieren, maar ook voor tal van andere lemma's. Maar er is nog veel te doen. Ik ben vooral blij dat er het afgelopen jaar heel wat nieuwe bewerkers bij zijn gekomen, waardoor we deze mijlpaal veel eerder bereiken dan ik een jaar terug had gedacht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 23:12 (CET) : Een mooie mijlpaal, gefeliciteerd allen! Ik hou me vooralsnog vooral bezig met het toevoegen van Nederlandse lemmata aan en.wikt, maar het Nederlandse Wikiwoordenboek is daarbij een enorme steun. [[Gebruiker:Mnemosientje|Mnemosientje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mnemosientje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 13:14 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-51</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W51"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/51|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:18}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:18|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, one of the fixes addressed an issue for temporary accounts adding an external URL, which triggered an hCaptcha request in more cases than intended, and did not display the required popup on the first attempt to publish the edit. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411927] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * To improve database and site performance, external links to Wikimedia projects will no longer be stored in the database. This means they will not be searchable in [[{{#special:LinkSearch}}]], will not be checked by the Spam Blacklist or AbuseFilter as new links, and will not be in the <code dir=ltr>externallinks</code> table on database replicas. In the future this may be extended to other highly-linked trusted websites on a per-wiki basis, such as Creative Commons links on Wikimedia Commons. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405005] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.7|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/51|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W51"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 15 dec 2025 20:03 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29796010 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-52</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W52"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/52|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * From January, edit filters [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter/Access flags|can be set]] to automatically suppress their details such as rules and list of attempted edits and actions. This will help oversighters use edit filters to prevent doxxing or other suppressible material. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290324] * The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 12 January 2026 because of the end of year holidays. Thank you to all of the translators, and people who submitted content or feedback, this year. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:16}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:16|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the crash that occurred when tapping "First Steps" in the Wikipedia Android Year in Review has now been fixed, and the feature opens as expected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411546] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Interface elements such as diffs and categories generated by MediaWiki used to have the attribute <code dir=ltr>data-mw="interface"</code> to distinguish from wiki content. The attribute has been replaced with <code dir=ltr>data-mw-interface=""</code>, to avoid potential conflicts with other <code dir=ltr>data-mw</code> attributes, which are generated by Parsoid. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409187] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week. '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026|Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026]] will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications just opened mid-December and will close in mid-January or earlier if capacity is reached. With space for approximately 100 participants, early application is encouraged. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/52|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W52"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 22 dec 2025 22:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29831856 --> == Van Dale is gestopt met zijn gratis online woordenboek == Vanaf 10 december is het gratis aanbod op de site van Van Dale beperkt tot het puzzelwoordenboek en het rijmwoordenboek. Als reden wordt opgegeven dat Van Dale zijn gebruikers een betere taalervaring wil bieden: zonder advertenties, zonder afleiding en met toegang tot alle functies die nodig zijn. Het gratis woordenboek werd vaak verward met de Dikke Van Dale, maar bood maar een beperkte selectie van woorden, met een duidelijk kleinere omvang dan WikiWoordenboek. Het alternatief is nu een betaald abonnement van € 81,75 per jaar voor de Dikke Van Dale of van € 5,44 per jaar voor de versie voor onderwijs NT2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 14:09 (CET) == Report concerning User:~2026-14769-0 == [[Special:Contributions/~2026-14769-0|~2026-14769-0]] &ndash; Vandalism <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small> --[[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 00:10 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-03</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W03"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/03|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Product & Technology OKRs|Meta]] and ''[[diffblog:2025/12/10/shaping-wikimedia-foundations-2026-2027-annual-goals-key-questions-for-the-wikimedia-movement/|Diff]]''. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on the [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. '''Updates for editors''' * As part of the current work of Community Tech team on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/W372|Multiple watchlists]] project, the display of [[Special:EditWatchlist|EditWatchlist]] will be updated as a first step towards multiple watchlists. Additionally, the pagination on [[Special:Search|Search]] will be updated too, as a part of the work on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/W186|Revamp pagination / page navigation]] wish. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411596] * [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|The Global Watchlist]] is a MediaWiki [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] that lets you see your watchlists from different wikis on the same page. It was recently updated to look more like the regular [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlist]], such as preparing it for temporary accounts in IP masking (including rerouting user links to contributions pages), making page titles bold, and opening links in edit summaries and tags in new browser tabs. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T398361][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T298919][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273526][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286309] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where global blocks did not have the option to disable sending emails, has now been fixed, and will be available for use in the week of January 13. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401293] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Citation tool|VisualEditor citation tool]] and [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Reference Previews|Reference Previews]] now support "map" as a reference type. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411083] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.10|MediaWiki]]/[[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.11|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/03|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W03"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 12 jan 2026 20:33 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29907192 --> == Thank You for Last Year – Join Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 == Dear Wikimedia communities, We hope you are doing well, and we wish you a happy New Year. ''Last year, we captured light. This year, we’ll capture legacy.'' In 2025, communities around the world shared the glow of Ramadan nights and the warmth of collective iftars. In 2026, ''Wiki Loves Ramadan'' is expanding, bringing more stories, more cultures, and deeper global connections across Wikimedia projects. We invite you to explore the ''Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026'' [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026|Meta page]] to learn how you can participate and [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026/Participating communities|sign up]] your community. 📷 ''Photo campaign on '' [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026|Wikimedia Commons]] If you have questions about the project, please refer to the FAQs: * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan/FAQ/|Meta-Wiki]] * [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki Loves Ramadan/FAQ|Wikimedia Commons]] ''Early registration for updates is now open via the '''[[m:Special:RegisterForEvent/2710|Event page]]''''' ''Stay connected and receive updates:'' * [https://t.me/WikiLovesRamadan Telegram channel] * [https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikilovesramadan.lists.wikimedia.org/ Mailing list] We look forward to collaborating with you and your community. '''The Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 Organizing Team''' 16 jan 2026 20:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:ZI Jony@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Non-Technical_Village_Pumps_distribution_list&oldid=29879549 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-04</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W04"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/04|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The tray shown on [[Special:Diff|Special:Diff]] in mobile view has been redesigned. It is now collapsed by default, and incorporates a link to undo the edit being viewed, making it easier for mobile editors and reviewers to take action while keeping the interface uncluttered. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402297] * [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|The Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] continues to improve — it now automatically determines the text direction (ensuring correct display of sites with unusual domain names) and shows detailed descriptions for log actions. Later this week, a new permanent link for page creations and CSS classes for each entry element will be added. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T412505][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T287929][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262768][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414135] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:32}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:32|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the previously observed issue in Vector 2022, where anchor link targets were obscured by the sticky header, has now been addressed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406114] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * As mentioned in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|October 2025 deprecation announcement]], MediaWiki Interfaces team will begin sunsetting all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from the MediaWiki REST API the week of January 26. Changes are expected to roll out to all wikis on or before January 30th. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found, compared, and tested using the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox]. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in Phabricator to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/6931/ #MW-Interfaces-Team board]. * Interactive reference documentation for the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia REST API|Wikimedia REST API]] has moved. Requests to API docs previously hosted through [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/RESTBase|RESTBase]] (e.g.: <code dir=ltr>https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/</code>) are now redirected to the [[w:en:Special:RestSandbox|REST Sandbox]]. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata Platform|WMF Wikidata Platform team]] (WDP) has published its [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Wikidata Platform team/Newsletter|January 2026 newsletter]]. It includes updates on the legacy full-graph endpoint decommissioning, the User-Agent policy change, the monthly Blazegraph migration office hours, and efforts to reduce regressions caused by the legacy endpoint shutdown. As a reminder, you can [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Global message delivery/Targets/WDP team updates|subscribe to the WDP newsletter]]! * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.12|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026|Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026]] will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications opened mid-December and will close soon or when capacity is reached. It's a two-day, technically oriented hackathon bringing together Wikimedians from the region. Hope to see you there! '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/04|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W04"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 19 jan 2026 21:29 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29943403 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Annual review of the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> I am writing to you to let you know the annual review period for the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines is open now. You can make suggestions for changes through 9 February 2026. This is the first step of several to be taken for the annual review. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Annual review/2026|Read more information and find a conversation to join on the UCoC page on Meta]]. The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. This annual review was planned and implemented by the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|you may review the U4C Charter]]. Please share this information with other members in your community wherever else might be appropriate. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]])<section end="announcement-content" /> </div> 19 jan 2026 22:02 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Keegan (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29905753 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-05</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W05"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/05|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia Foundation invites comments on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Year1 Reflections and Proposed Way Forward 2026 Update|proposed future]] of the [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product and Technology Advisory Council]] until 28 February. * All users with registered accounts can now use passkeys for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Two-factor authentication|two-factor authentication]] (2FA). Passkeys are a simple way to log in without using a second device. They verify the user's identity using a fingerprint, face scan, or a PIN code. To set up a passkey, first set up a regular 2FA method. Currently, to log in with a passkey, users must also use a password. Later this quarter, passwordless login will allow users to log in with a single click and a passkey. Users with advanced rights will also be required to have 2FA enabled. This is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] project. * Unregistered contributors on blocked IPs or blocked IP ranges can now interact on-wiki to appeal a block by creating a temporary account to appeal a block on the user talk page, unless the "prevent this user from editing their own talk page" is enabled. This solves the problem of logged-out users unable to use the default unblock process via user talk page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T398673] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) methods description on the management page has been updated. It is now clearer and easier for users to understand and make use of. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332385] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new AbuseFilter variable, <code>account_type</code>, has been added to provide a reliable way to determine the account type being created in the <code>createaccount</code> and <code>autocreateaccount</code> actions. As part of this change, the variable <code>accountname</code> has been renamed to <code>account_name</code>, and <code>accountname</code> is now deprecated. Edit filter managers should update any filters that use hardcoded account type checks or the deprecated variable. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414049] * Image thumbnails that are requested in non-standard sizes, and using non-standard methods such as direct requests to <code dir=ltr><nowiki>upload.wikimedia.org/…</nowiki></code> will stop working in the near future. This change is to prevent ongoing external abuse by web-scrapers and bots. Some users with custom CSS/JS, Interface Admins who can fix gadgets and local skins, and Tool-authors, will need to update their code to use standard thumbnail sizes. [[phab:T414805|Details, search-links, and examples of how to fix them, are available in the task]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.13|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/05|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W05"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 26 jan 2026 22:17 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29969530 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-06</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W06"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/06|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The "{{int:pageinfo-toolboxlink}}" feature, which gives validating information about a page ([{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=info}} example]), now automatically includes a table of contents. If there is a local [[{{ns:8}}:Pageinfo-header]] page created by individual users, it can now be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363726] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, VisualEditor previously added bold or italic formatting inside link descriptions, making the wikicode complex. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409669] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * There was no XML dump on 20 January. Additionally, from now on, dumps will be generated once per month only. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414389] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team removed support for all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/API:REST%20API MediaWiki REST API]. All API users currently calling those endpoints are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in phabricator to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/6931/ #MW-Interfaces-Team board]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.14|MediaWiki]] '''Weekly highlight''' * Users are reminded that the Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Product & Technology OKRs|Meta]] and ''[[diffblog:2025/12/10/shaping-wikimedia-foundations-2026-2027-annual-goals-key-questions-for-the-wikimedia-movement/|Diff]]''. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on the [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/06|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W06"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 2 feb 2026 18:43 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30000986 --> == Toegang tot Ensie == Zouden WikiWoordenboekvrienden toegang kunnen krijgen tot https://www.ensie.nl? Blijkbaar hebben onderwijsinstellingen toegang? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 8 feb 2026 17:53 (CET) :Voor zover ik kan nagaan gaat het daarbij om betaalde abonnementen per instelling. Misschien kunnen Wikimedia België en Wikimedia Nederland een gezamenlijk zo'n instellingsabonnement afsluiten. Je zou ook kunnen kijken of ENSIE kan worden opgenomen in de [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/?next_url=/search/?q= Wikipedia Library]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 14:04 (CET) ::Ensie kopieert zelf geregeld vanaf o.a. dit project en Wikipedia. Het lijkt me dus niet echt nodig om hier een speciale externe link of zo van te maken (je creëert dan immers voornamelijk ''cirkelverwijzingen''), hooguit kan er misschien in bepaalde gevallen naartoe worden gelinkt als dat echt iets van meerwaarde oplevert. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 13:03 (CET) :::De vraag ging - denk ik - alleen maar over de mogelijkheid om ENSIE te raadplegen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-07</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W07"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/07|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * [[File:Maki-gift-15.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Wishlist item]] Logged-in contributors who manage large or complex watchlists can now organise and filter watched pages in ways that improve their workflows with the new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Watchlist labels|Watchlist labels]] feature. By adding custom labels (for example: pages you created, pages being monitored for vandalism, or discussion pages) users can more quickly identify what needs attention, reduce cognitive load, and respond more efficiently. This improves watchlist usability, especially for highly active editors. * A new feature available on [[Special:Contributions|Special:Contributions]] shows [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] that are likely operated by the same person, and so makes patrolling less time-consuming. Upon checking contributions of a temporary account, users with access to temporary account IP addresses can now see a view of contributions from the related temporary accounts. The feature looks up all the IPs associated with a given temporary account within the data retention period and shows all the contributions of all temporary accounts that have used these IPs. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts#February 2026: Improvements to the patroller tooling|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415674] * When editors preview a wikitext edit, the reminder box that they are only seeing a preview (which is shown at the top), now has a grey/neutral background instead of a yellow/warning background. This makes it easier to distinguish preview notes from actual warnings (for example, edit conflicts or problematic redirect targets), which will now be shown in separate warning or error boxes. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414742] * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] continues to improve — it now properly supports more than one Wikibase site, for example both [[d:|Wikidata]] and [[testwikidata:|testwikidata]]. In addition, issues regarding text direction have been fixed for users who prefer Wikidata or other Wikibase sites in right-to-left (RTL) languages. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415440][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415458] * The automatic "magic links" for ISBN, RFC, and PMID numbers have been [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic links|deprecated in wikitext since 2021]] due to inflexibility and difficulties with localization. Several wikis have successfully replaced RFC and PMID magic links with equivalent external links, but a template was often required to replace the functionality of the ISBN magic link. There is now a new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic words#isbn|built-in parser function]] <code dir=ltr><nowiki>{{#isbn}}</nowiki></code> available to replace the basic functionality of the ISBN magic link. This makes it easier for wikis who wish to migrate off of the deprecated magic link functionality to do so. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145604] * Two new wikis have been created: ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q35401|Jju]] ([[w:kaj:|<code>w:kaj:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413283] ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q1186896|Nawat]] ([[w:ppl:|<code>w:ppl:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413273] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new global user group has been created: [[{{int:grouppage-local-bot}}|{{int:group-local-bot}}]]. It will be used internally by the software to allow community bots to bypass rate limits that are applied to abusive [[w:en:Web scraping|web scrapers]]. Accounts that are approved as bots on at least one Wikimedia wiki will be automatically added to this group. It will not change what user permissions the bot has. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415588] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.15|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Spring 2026|MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference, Spring 2026]] will be held March 25–27 in Salt Lake City, USA. This event is organized by and for the third-party MediaWiki community. You can propose sessions and register to attend. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/AZBWVI46SDEB65PGR5J6E4TYOQQEZXM7/] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/07|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W07"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 10 feb 2026 00:30 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30026671 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-08</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W08"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/08|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Site Reliability Engineering|SRE Team]] will be performing a cleanup of Wikimedia's [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Etherpad|Etherpad]] instance, the web-based editor for real-time collaborative document editing. All pads will be permanently deleted after 30 April, 2026 – if there are still migration projects in progress at that point the team can revisit the date on a case by case basis. Please create local backups of any content you wish to keep, as deleted data cannot be recovered. This cleanup helps reduce database size and minimize infrastructure footprint. Etherpad will continue to support real-time collaboration, but long-term storage should not be expected. Additional cleanups may occur in the future without prior notice. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415237] '''Updates for editors''' * The Information Retrieval team will be launching an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Information Retrieval/Phase 1|Android mobile app experiment]] that tests hybrid search capabilities which can handle both semantic and keyword queries. The improvement of on-platform search will enable readers to find what they’re looking for directly on Wikipedia more easily. The experiment will first be launched on Greek Wikipedia in late February, followed by English, French, and Portuguese in March. [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2026/01/08/semantic-search-making-it-easier-to-find-the-information-readers-want/ Read more] on Diff blog. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Information_Retrieval] * The Reader Growth team will run [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth/WE3.10.2 Mobile Table of Contents|an experiment]] for mobile web users, that adds a table of contents and automatically expands all article sections, to learn more about navigation issues they face. The test will be available on Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. * Previously, site notices ([[{{ns:8}}:Sitenotice]] and [[{{ns:8}}:Anonnotice]]) would only render on the desktop site. Now, they will render on all platforms. Users on mobile web will now see these notices and be informed. Site administrators should be prepared to test and fix notices on mobile devices to avoid interference with articles. To opt out, interface admins can add <code dir="ltr">#siteNotice { display: none; }</code> to [[{{ns:8}}:Minerva.css]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138572][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416644] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:19}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:19|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, an issue on [[Special:RecentChanges|Special:RecentChanges]] has been fixed. Previously, clicking hide in the active filters caused the "view new changes since…" button to disappear, though it should have remained visible. The button now behaves as expected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406339] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * New documentation is now available to help editors debug on-site search features. It supports troubleshooting when pages do not appear in results, when ranking seems unexpected, and when you need to inspect what content is being indexed, helping make search behavior easier to understand and analyze. [[mw:Help:CirrusSearch/Debug|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411169] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.16|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/08|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W08"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16 feb 2026 20:17 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30086330 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-09</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W09"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/09|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Reference Check|Reference Check]] has been deployed to English Wikipedia, completing its rollout across all Wikipedias. The feature prompts newcomers to add a citation before publishing new content, helping reduce common citation-related reverts and improve verifiability. In A/B testing, the impact was substantial: newcomers shown Reference Check were approximately 2.2 times more likely to include a reference on desktop and about 17.5 times more likely on mobile web. [https://analytics.wikimedia.org/published/reports/editing/reference_check_ab_test_report_final_2025.html] '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:InterwikiSorting|InterwikiSorting extension]], which allowed for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Interwiki sorting order|sorting of interwiki links]], has been undeployed from Wikipedia. As a result, editors who had enabled interwiki link sorting in non-compact mode (full list format) will now see links reordered. The links moving forward will be listed in the alphabetical order of language code. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253764] * Later this week, people who are editing a page-section using the mobile visual editor, will notice a new "Edit full page" button. When tapped, you will be able to edit the entire article. This helps when the change you want to make is outside the section you initially opened. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T387175][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409112] * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|The Reader Experience team]] is inviting editors to assess whether dark mode should still be considered "beta" on their wiki, based on their experience of how well it functions on desktop and mobile. If the feature is deemed mature, editors can update the interface messages in <code dir=ltr>MediaWiki:skin-theme-description</code> and <code dir=ltr>MediaWiki:Vector-night-mode-beta-tag</code> to indicate that dark mode is ready and no longer considered beta. * The improved [[mw:Wikimedia_Apps/Team/iOS/Activity_Tab|Activity tab]] which displays user-insights is now available to all users of the Wikipedia iOS app (version 7.9.0 and later). Following earlier A/B testing that showed higher account creation among users with access to the feature, it has been rolled out to 100% of users along with some updates. The Activity tab now shows your edited articles in the timeline, offers editing impact insights like contribution counts and article view trends, and customization options to improve in-app experience for users. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a bug that prevented [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]] from working on mobile has now been fixed, restoring full functionality. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415303] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] that makes this possible continues to improve. The latest upgrade is the inclusion of a [[mw:Extension:GlobalWatchlist#hook|new hook]], <code dir=ltr>ext.globalwatchlist.rebuild</code>, which fires after each watchlist rebuild. This allows you to run gadgets and user scripts for the Special page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275159] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.17|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/09|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W09"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23 feb 2026 20:03 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30119102 --> == Samenwerkingsproject met Swánga̱lyiatwuki == Meer dan een jaar geleden heb ik {{WikiW|De_Kroeg/2024#Swánga̱lyiatwuki|in De kroeg}} het {{WikiW|Samenwerking met Swánga̱lyiatwuki|samenwerkingsproject}} met de wiktionary in the Tyap, Swánga̱lyiatwuki aangekondigd. Dit is inmiddels in de derde fase beland. Aan de Nigeriaanse kant vormen de minimale faciliteiten waarmee ze het project moeten ontwikkelen de grootste belemmering. Aan onze kant is lastig dat er vrijwel geen openbaar toegankelijke informatie over het Tyap bestaat. Op dat laatste punt gaat [[Gebruiker:DouwesJolan|Jolan Douwes]], masterstudent taalkunde aan de Universiteit Leiden die via de Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland stage loopt bij WikiWoordenboek ons helpen om een goede beschrijving van woordsoorten en verbuigingen te krijgen, zodat we beter in staat zijn categorieën en sjablonen voor het Tyap te ontwikkelen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 14:43 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-10</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W10"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/10|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikipedia 25 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments|Birthday mode]] is now live on Betawi, Breton, Chinese, Czech, Dutch, English, French, Gorontalo, Indonesian, Italian, Luxembourgish, Madurese, Sicilian, Spanish, Thai, and Vietnamese Wikipedias! This limited-time campaign feature celebrates 25 years of Wikipedia with a birthday mascot, Baby Globe. When turned on, Baby Globe is shown on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments/article configuration|~2,500 articles]], waiting to be discovered by readers. Communities can choose to turn Birthday mode on by getting consensus from their community and asking an admin to enable the feature and customize it via [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments#Community Configuration Demo|community configuration]] on the local wiki. '''Updates for editors''' * [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing|Sub-referencing]], a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to Swedish Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia and [[:phab:T418209|a couple of other wikis]]. You can [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#test|try the feature]] on these projects or on testwiki and [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmcloud.org/wiki/Sub-referencing betawiki]. Learnings from the first pilot wiki German Wikipedia have been [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing/Learnings|published in a report]]. Reach out to the Wikimedia Deutschland team if you are [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Pilot wikis|interested in becoming a pilot wiki]]. * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#Paste check|Paste Check]] will become available at all Wikipedias this week. The feature prompts newcomers who are pasting text they are not likely to have written into VisualEditor to consider whether doing so risks a copyright violation. Paste Check [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Tags|tags]] all edits where it is shown for potential review. Local administrators can configure various aspects of the feature via [[{{#special:EditChecks}}]]. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Paste Check#A/B Experiment|Research]] across 22 wikis found that Paste Check resulted in an 18% decrease in relative reverted-edits compared to the control group. Translators can [https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&group=ext-visualeditor-ve-mw-editcheck&filter=&optional=1&action=translate help to localize] this and related features. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|Reader Experience team]] will be standardizing the user menu in the top right for all mobile users so that it is closer to the desktop experience. Currently this user menu is only visible to users with Advanced Mobile Controls (AMC) turned on. The only change is that a couple buttons previously in the left-side menu will move to the top right for users who do not have AMC turned on. This change is expected to go out March 9 and seeks to improve the user interface. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413912] * Starting in the week of March 2, the emails sent out when an email address was added, removed, or changed for an account will switch to a substantially nicer and clearer HTML email from the prior plaintext one. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410807] * Notifications are currently limited to 2,000 historic entries per user, and extend back to 2013 when the feature was released. This is going to be changed to only store Notifications from the last 5 years, but up to 10,000 of them. This will help with long-term infrastructure health and help to prevent more recent notifications from disappearing too soon. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] which lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on a single page continues to see improvements. The latest update improves label usage experience. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] now allows activating the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Language#Fallback languages|language fallback system]] for Wikidata items without labels in the viewed language, and showing those labels in the user’s preferred Wikidata language if no <code dir=ltr>uselang=</code> URL parameter is provided. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373686][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416111] * The Wikipedia Android team has started a beta test of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Information Retrieval/Phase 1|hybrid search]] on Greek Wikipedia. Hybrid search capabilities can handle both semantic and keyword queries enabling readers to find what they’re looking for directly on Wikipedia more easily. * For security reasons, members of certain user groups are [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Mandatory two-factor authentication for users with some extended rights|required to have two-factor authentication]] (2FA) enabled. Currently, 2FA is required to use the group, but not to be a member of it. Given that this model still has some vulnerabilities, the situation will [[phab:T418580|gradually change in March]]. Members of these groups will be unable to disable last 2FA method on their account, and it will be impossible to add users without 2FA to these groups. Users will still be able to add new authentication methods or remove them, as long as at least one method is continuously enabled. In the second half of March, users without 2FA will be removed from these groups. This applies to: CentralNotice administrators, checkusers, interface administrators, suppressors, Wikidata staff, Wikifunctions staff, WMF Office IT and WMF Trust & Safety. Nothing will change for other users. See the linked task for deployment schedule. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418580] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:27}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:27|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue preventing users from creating an instance in [https://www.wikibase.cloud/ Wikibase.cloud] has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416807] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * To help ensure [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Responsible Reuse|fair use of infrastructure]], over the next month the Wikimedia Foundation will implement global API rate limits across our APIs. In early March, stricter limits will be applied to unidentified requests from outside Toolforge/WMCS and API requests that are made from web browsers. In April, higher limits will be applied to identified traffic. These limits are intentionally set as high as possible to minimise impact on the community. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits|Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits]]. * The Wikidata Query Service Linked Data Fragment (LDF) endpoint will be decommissioned in February. This endpoint served limited traffic, which was successfully migrated to other data access methods that were better suited to support existing use cases. The hardware used to support the LDF endpoint will be reallocated to support the ongoing backend migration efforts. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415696] * The new Parsoid parser [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser Unification/Updates|continues to be deployed to additional wikis]], improving platform sustainability and making it easier to introduce new reading and editing features. Parsoid is now the default parser on 488 WMF wikis (268 Wikipedias), now covering more than 10% of all Wikipedia page views. * The process and criteria for [[Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Enterprise#Access|requesting exceptional access]] to the high volume feed of the ''Wikimedia Enterprise'' APIs (at no cost for mission-aligned usecases), [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Enterprise#Exceptional access criteria|have now been published]]. This is to provide more thorough and clearer documentation for users. * [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/ Tech Blog], the blog dedicated to the Wikimedia technical community [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2026/02/24/a-tech-blog-diff/ will be migrating] to [[diffblog:|Diff]], the community news and event blog. The migration should be complete in April 2026, after which new posts will be accepted for publishing. Readers will be able to access posts – old and new – on the landing page at https://diff.wikimedia.org/techblog. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.18|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/10|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W10"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 2 mrt 2026 18:51 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30137798 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-11</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W11"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. * Last week, all wikis had 2 hours of read-only time, and extended unavailability for user-scripts and gadgets. This was due to a security incident which has since been resolved. Work is ongoing to prevent re-occurrences. For current information please see the [[m:Steward's noticeboard#Statement on Meta about today's user script security incident|post on the Stewards' noticeboard]] ([[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Product and Technology/Product Safety and Integrity/March 2026 User Script Incident|translations]]). '''Updates for editors''' * Users facing multiple blocks on mobile will now see the reasons for each block separately, instead of a generic message. This helps them understand why they are blocked and what steps they can take to resolve the issue. For example, users affected for using common VPNs (such as [[Special:MyLanguage/Apple iCloud Private Relay|iCloud Private Relay]]) will receive clearer guidance on what they need to do to start editing again. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T357118] * Later this week, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Suggestion Mode|Suggestion Mode]] will become available as a beta feature within the visual editor at all Wikipedias. This feature proactively suggests various types of actions that people can consider taking to improve Wikipedia articles, and learn about related guidelines. The feature is locally configurable, and can also be locally expanded with custom Suggestions. Current settings can be seen at [[Special:EditChecks]] and there are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Suggestion mode#For administrators %E2%80%93 local customization|instructions for how administrators can customize]] the links to point to local guidelines. The feature is connected to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check|Edit check]] which suggests improvements while someone is writing new content. In the future, the Editing team plans to evaluate the feature's impact with newcomers through a controlled experiment. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404600] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where the cursor became misaligned during the use of CodeMirror’s syntax highlighting, which makes wikitext and code easier to read, has now been fixed. This problem specifically affected users who defined a font rule in a custom stylesheet while creating a new topic with DiscussionTools. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418793] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * API rate limiting update: To help ensure [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Responsible Reuse|fair use of infrastructure]], global API rate limits will be applied this week to requests without a compliant User-Agent that originate from outside Toolforge/WMCS and to unauthenticated requests made from web browsers. Higher limits will be applied to identified traffic in April. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits|Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits]]. * The new GraphQL API has been released. The API was developed as a flexible alternative to select features of the Wikidata Query Service (WDQS), to improve developer experience and foster adaptability, and efficient data access. Try it out and [[d:Wikidata:Wikibase GraphQL#Feedback and development|give feedback]]. You can also [https://greatquestion.co/wikimediadeutschland/GraphQLAPI/apply sign up for usability tests]. * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|PTAC Unsupported Tools Working Group]] continued improvements to [[commons:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons#|Video2Commons]] in February, with fixes addressing authentication errors, large-file handling, task queue visibility, and clearer upload behavior. Work is still ongoing in some areas, including changes related to deprecated server-side uploads. Read [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group#February 2026|this update]] to learn more. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.19|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The Article Guidance team invites experienced Wikipedia editors from selected [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance/Pilot wikis and collaborators#Collaborators|pilot wikis]] and interested contributors from other Wikipedias to fill out this questionnaire which is available in [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfmLeVWnxmsCbPoI_UF2jyRcn73WRGWCVPHzerXb4Cz97X_Ag/viewform English], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6rzr4XXQw8r4024fE3geTPFe13M_6w7Mitj-YJi0sOlWTAw/viewform?usp=header Arabic], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdok3-RfB18lcugYTUMGkpwmqG_8p760Wv4dCXitOXOszjUDw/viewform?usp=header Bengali], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfjTfYp4jEo0akA4B1e-Nfg3QZPCudUjhJzHzzDi6AHyAaMGA/viewform?usp=header Japanese], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScteVoI29Aue4xc72dekk-6RYtvmMgQxzMI900UOawrFrSTWg/viewform?usp=header Portuguese], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSetdxnYwL3ub2vqA7awCg5hJZPMIYcDPaiTe12rY9h0GYnVlw/viewform?usp=header Persian], and [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNvfJF-Ot-4pzA4qAN771_0QDJ4Li19YcUsaTgSKW8Nc7U_Q/viewform?usp=header Turkish]. Your answers will help the team customize guidance for less experienced editors and help them learn community policies and practices while creating an article. Learn more [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|on the project page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W11"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 9 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30213008 --> == archive.today == Bij verwijzing naar online bronnen is het vaak nuttig ook een archieflink aan te maken, vooral bij websites die zelf niet als archief zijn bedoeld. Voor dit doel wordt op WikiWoordenboek meestal het Internet Archive (archive.org) gebruikt. Daarnaast gebruiken we soms ook wel het daarvan los staande archive.today of een van zijn mirrorsites (meestal archive.ph). Het gebruik van archive.today en zijn mirrors is [[meta:Archive.today_incident|op Wikimediaprojecten omstreden]] geworden. De eigenaar van archive.today kreeg een ruzie met een blogger en ging er toen toe over om gebruikers van archive.today via wat code ongemerkt ook loze html-oproepen aan het blog te laten sturen, zodat het raadplegen daarvan werd bemoeilijkt. Daarnaast werd ook duidelijk dat hij op archive.today opgeslagen archiefpagina's van een eigen site had aangepast. Voor sommige Wikimediaprojecten waren dit voldoende redenen om helemaal geen gebruik meer te maken van archive.today, andere projecten kiezen voor minder vergaande beperkingen. De WMF laat deze kwestie voor dit moment over aan de afzonderlijke projecten, maar sluit niet uit dit in de toekomst zal veranderen. Op WikiWoordenboek is de situatie vrij overzichtelijk, omdat we hier vooral archive.org gebruiken: er zijn vele duizenden pagina's die naar die site verwijzen en nog geen 130 waar archive.today is gebruikt. Daarbij zitten echter wel een aantal pagina's die zich niet via archive.org laten archiveren. Soms lijkt dit een technische kwestie, maar er wordt in sommige gevallen ook expliciet aangegeven dat een site niet via archive.org wil worden vastgelegd omdat zo'n archiefpagina kan worden gebruikt om kunstmatige intelligentie te trainen. In dat soort gevallen lijken de voordelen van archivering via archive.today mij groter dat het weglaten van een archieflink of van de hele verwijzing. Mijn pragmatische voorstel is daarom als volgt: # We spreken af om in principe archive.org voor archieflinks te gebruiken. Indien mogelijk wordt een bestaande archieflink naar archive.today vervangen door een equivalent op archive.org. # In gevallen waarin een onvervangbare bron of vindplaats zich niet op die manier laat archiveren, wordt archive.'''ph''' gebruikt. Op die manier houden we goed overzicht van het gebruik van archive.today. Voor de bestaande links heb ik dit klusje al uitgevoerd. De keus voor deze mirror is ingegeven doordat dit het minste werk opleverde. # We maken geen gebruik meer van de overige sites van archive.today en voegen die toe aan de lijst van sites waar niet naartoe kan worden gelinkt. # We verzoeken de WMF uitdrukkelijk om bij het doorvoeren van meer ingrijpende maatregelen eerst een voorziening te treffen voor pagina's die niet op archive.org kunnen worden bewaard. Mij staat voor ogen om de komende 4 weken de reacties af te wachten en afhankelijk daarvan 3. en 4. uit te voeren. Met het oog op dat laatste punt ben ik wel al bezig met de vervangingen onder 1. omdat er zo een beter beeld ontstaat van de sites waar het om gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 13:11 (CET) :Nee, de kwestie is niet slechts een ruzie. De blog heeft door middel van doxing geprobeerd de eigenaar van archive.today onder druk te zetten. Het raadplegen van de blog is niet bemoeilijkt en is niet uitgevallen. :Voor veel Nederlandstalige bronnen is archive.today de enige manier om te archiveren. Ook de Internet Archive heeft regelmatig last van storingen. Ik pleit daarom voor diversificatie in plaats van minimalisatie. In andere woorden, dat bronnen in zo veel mogelijk archiefsites worden opgeslagen. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 13:02 (CET) == Save the Date: zaterdag 20 juni 2026 Verjaardagsfeest Wikipedia 25 jaar! == Op 19 juni bestaat de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia precies 25 jaar en dat willen we vieren! Daarom nodigen we je van harte uit voor het verjaardagsfeest op zaterdag 20 juni van 12:00 tot 17:00 uur bij restaurant LE:EN in Utrecht. Inschrijving is geopend! Op [[wmnl:Verjaardagsfeest_Wikipedia_25_jaar!|deze pagina]] vind je meer informatie alsmede het inschrijfformulier. We hopen dat je erbij kunt zijn en kijken ernaar uit je te mogen verwelkomen. Tot dan! Met vriendelijke groet, Team Wikimedia Nederland [[Gebruiker:JansenKirsten|JansenKirsten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JansenKirsten|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:53 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-12</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W12"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature, also known as [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror 6]], has been used for wikitext syntax highlighting since November 2024. It will be promoted out of beta by May 2026 in order to bring improvements and new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Features|features]] to all editors who use the standard syntax highlighter. If you have any questions or concerns about promoting the feature out of beta, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|please share]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259059] * Some changes to local user groups are performed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and logged there only. Now, interwiki rights changes will be logged both on Meta-Wiki and the wiki of the target user to make it easier to access a full record of user's rights changes on a local wiki. Past log entries for such changes will be backfilled in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T6055] * On wikis using [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Flagged Revisions|Flagged Revisions]], the number of pending changes shown on [[{{#Special:PendingChanges}}]] previously counted pages which were no longer pending review, because they have been removed from the system without being reviewed, e.g. due to being deleted, moved to a different namespace, or due to wiki configuration changes. The count will be correct now. On some wikis the number shown will be much smaller than before. There should be no change to the list of pages itself. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413016] * Wikifunctions composition language has been rewritten, resulting in a new version of the language. This change aims to increase service stability by reducing the orchestrator's memory consumption. This rewrite also enables substantial latency reduction, code simplification, and better abstractions, which will open the door to later feature additions. Read more about [[f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2026-03-11|the changes]]. * Users can now sort search results alphabetically by page title. The update gives an additional option to finding pages more easily and quickly. Previously, results could be sorted by Edit date, Creation date, or Relevance. To use the new option, open 'Advanced Search' on the search results page and select 'Alphabetically' under 'Sorting Order'. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403775] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons from importing files from Flickr has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419263] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new special page, [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}]], has been created to list transcluded pages that are flagged as containing lint errors to help users discover them easily. The list is sorted by the number of transclusions with errors. For example: [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}/night-mode-unaware-background-color]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170874] * Users of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature have been using [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]] for syntax highlighting when editing JavaScript, CSS, JSON, Vue and Lua content pages, for some time now. Along with promoting CodeMirror 6 out of beta, the plan is to replace CodeEditor as the standard editor for these content models by May 2026. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|Feedback or concerns are welcome]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419332] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] JavaScript modules will soon be upgraded to CodeMirror 6. Leading up to the upgrade, loading the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror</code> or <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.lib</code> modules from gadgets and user scripts was deprecated in July 2025. The use of the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.switch</code> hook was also deprecated in March 2025. Contributors can now make their scripts or gadgets compatible with CodeMirror 6. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror#Gadgets and user scripts|migration guide]] for more information. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373720] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is expanding coverage of REST API module definitions to include [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/API:REST API/Extensions|extension APIs]]. REST API modules are groups of related endpoints that can be independently managed and versioned. Modules now exist for [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414470 GrowthExperiments] and [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419053 Wikifunctions] APIs. As we migrate extension APIs to this structure, documentation will move out of the main MediaWiki OpenAPI spec and REST Sandbox view, and will instead be accessible via module-specific options in the dropdown on the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox] (i.e., [[{{#Special:RestSandbox}}]], available on all wiki projects). * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto|Scribunto]] extension provides different pieces of information about the wiki where the module is being used via the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual|mw.site]] library. Starting last week, the library also provides a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.site.wikiId|way]] of accessing the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Wiki ID|wiki ID]] that can be used to facilitate cross-wiki module maintenance. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146616] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.20|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Coolest Tool Award|2026 Coolest Tool Award]] celebrating outstanding community tools, is now open for nominations! Nominate your favorite tool using the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/435684?lang=en nomination survey] form by 23 March 2026. For more information on privacy and data handling, please see the [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Coolest_Tool_Award_2026_Survey_Privacy_Statement|survey privacy statement]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W12"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16 mrt 2026 20:35 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30260505 --> == Beursaanvraag Wikimania 2026 geopend == Van 21 - 25 juli vindt [[wikimania:2026:Wikimania|Wikimania]] in Parijs plaats, de jaarlijkse wereldwijde conferentie voor iedereen die betrokken is bij een of meerdere Wikimedia-projecten. Wikimedia Nederland stelt een beperkt aantal beurzen beschikbaar voor reis- en verblijfskosten voor het hoofdprogramma van 23–25 juli. Je kunt tot uiterlijk zondag 12 april een beurs aanvragen. [[wmnl:Wikimania_2026|Meer informatie over de beursaanvraag vind je op de verenigingswiki]]. Wikimedia Nederland [[Gebruiker:JansenKirsten|JansenKirsten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JansenKirsten|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:12 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-13</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W13"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikimedia site users can now log in without a password using passkeys. This is a secure method supported by fingerprint, facial recognition, or PIN. With this change, all users who opt for passwordless login will find it easier, faster, and more secure to log in to their accounts using any device. The new passkey login option currently appears as an autofill suggestion in the username field. An additional [[phab:T417120|"Log in with passkey" button]] will soon be available for users who have already registered a passkey. This update will improve security and user experience. The [[c:File:Passwordless_login_screencast.webm|screen recording]] demonstrates the passwordless login process step by step. * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia site users can now export their notifications older than 5 years using a [[toolforge:echo-chamber|new Toolforge tool]]. This will ensure that users retain their important notifications and avoid them being lost based on the planned change to delete notifications older than 5 years, as previously announced. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * Wikipedia editors in Indonesian, Thai, Turkish, and Simple English now have access to Special:PersonalDashboard. This is an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Moderator Tools/Dashboard|early version of an experience]] that introduces newer editors to patrolling workflows, making it easier for them to move from making edits to participating in more advanced moderation work on their project. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402647] * The [[Special:Block]] now has two minor interface changes. Administrators can now easily perform indefinite blocks through a dedicated radio button in the expiry section. Also, choosing an indefinite expiry provides a different set of common reasons to select from, which can be changed at: [[MediaWiki:Ipbreason-indef-dropdown]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401823] * Mobile editors [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments#Logged-out|at several wikis]] can now see an improved logged-out edit warning, thanks to the recent updates from the Growth team. These changes released last week are part of ongoing efforts and tests to enhance [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments|account creation experience on mobile]] and then increase participation. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408484] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:36}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:36|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented mobile web users from seeing the block information when affected by multiple blocks has been fixed. They can now see messages of all the blocks currently affecting them when they access Wikipedia. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Images built using Toolforge will soon get the upgraded buildpacks version, bringing support for newer language versions and other upstream improvements and fixes. If you use Toolforge Build Service, review the recent [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud-announce@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EMYTA32EV2V5SQ2JIEOD2CL66YFIZEKV/ cloud-announce email] and update your build configuration as necessary to ensure your tools are compatible. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Toolforge/Building_container_images&oldid=2392097#Buildpack_environment_upgrade_process][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380127] * The [https://api.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page API Portal] documentation wiki will shut down in June 2026. API keys created on the API Portal will continue to work normally. api.wikimedia.org endpoints will be deprecated gradually starting in July 2026. Documentation on the API Portal is moving to [[mw:Wikimedia APIs|mediawiki.org]]. Learn more on the [[wikitech:API Portal/Deprecation|project page]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes|WMDE Technical Wishes]] is considering improvements to [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names|automatically generated reference names in VisualEditor]]. Please check out the [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Proposed solutions|proposed solutions]] and participate in the [[m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Request for comment|request for comment]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W13"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23 mrt 2026 17:51 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30268305 --> == Kandidatuur Latijn als moderator == [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] heeft zich 26 maart {{WikiW|Aanmelding_moderators#Latijn|kandidaat gesteld als moderator}}, zonder hiervan in De Kroeg melding te maken. Het is aannemelijk dat Latijn niet wist dat dit goed gebruik is, vandaar dat ik dat nu maar doe. Het is in mijn ogen wel een indicatie dat er gewoon nog onvoldoende ervaring aanwezig is om moderator te worden. Een echte contra-indicatie is in mijn ogen het volgende: op 29 maart 16:46 is er een nieuw account [[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] aangemaakt. Dit account heeft in de hele Wikimediawereld precies twee bewerkingen gedaan: om 16:47 [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Latijn&diff=prev&oldid=5503673 deze bewerking] op de overlegpagina van Latijn, die om 17:38 door Latijn ongedaan is gemaakt, gevolgd door [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding_moderators&diff=prev&oldid=5503753 een stem voor Latijn als moderator] om 18:17, die door mij inmiddels om een voor de hand liggende reden ongeldig is verklaard. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:20 (CEST) c7r7epi4n9lr4j4fk2w1fj7e0o1xjzm 5504003 5504002 2026-03-30T12:22:15Z Latijn 65243 /* Kandidatuur Latijn als moderator */ Reactie 5504003 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>__NEWSECTIONLINK__ __NOINDEX__ {{De_kroeg}}</noinclude> <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Per kalenderjaar:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2004|2004]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2005|2005]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2006|2006]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2007|2007]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2008|2008]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2009|2009]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2010|2010]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011|2011]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2012|2012]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2013|2013]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2014|2014]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2015|2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • <!-- [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2026|2026]] • --> [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|heden]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Werklijst|werklijst]] </div><section end=nav/> == Weergave actuele Franse spellingvarianten == De weerstand tegen de spellingverbetering van 1990 heeft geleid tot een situatie waarin zowel de "traditionele spelling" ''(orthographe traditionnelle)'' als de "verbeterde spelling" ''(orthographe rectifiée)'' worden gebruikt en officiële status hebben. In dit geval is onze gebruikelijke werkwijze met {{Tl|oudeschrijfwijze}} minder passend, temeer omdat vooral in Frankrijk zelf de traditionele spelling nog heel gangbaar is. In het verleden zijn hiervoor de sjablonen "fr-orth-trad" en "fr-orth-rect" aangemaakt, maar deze sjablonen werken niet zo prettig in combinatie met sjablonen die een verbogen of vervoegde vorm beschrijven. Het is typografisch ook wat verwarrend om informatie over schrijfwijzen niet onder dat kopje, maar op de trefwoordregel te geven, die eigenlijk zelf als een kopje is bedoeld. [[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Overleg met Jochenknabben]] die het afgelopen jaar vele duizenden Franse lemma's heeft toegevoegd, heeft een oplossing opgeleverd in de vorm van twee nieuwe sjablonen: {{Tl|-writ-fra-t-}} en {{Tl|-writ-fra-r-}}. Deze zorgen voor een consistente presentatie van informatie over deze spellingvarianten, ook op lemma's met verbogen en vervoegde vormen. Voorbeelden zijn te zien op {{Q|île|fra}}, {{Q|îles|fra}}, {{Q|ile|fra}}, {{Q|iles|fra}}. Dit levert ook een [[:Categorie:Verbeterde spelling Frans van 1990|categorie van woorden uit de verbeterde spelling]] op. Om te zien hoe het in de praktijk werkt, kunnen deze sjablonen op nieuwe lemma's worden gebruikt. Afhankelijk van de reacties hier staat mij voor ogen om over 4 weken om op bestaande pagina's de oude sjablonen door de nieuwe te vervangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:50 (CEST) :{{done}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2025 15:39 (CET) ::In aanvulling op het bovenstaande is ook nog het sjabloon {{Tl|fr-orth}} aangemaakt, dat gebruikt kan worden in de gevallen dat categorisering en het automatisch ingevoegde kopje ongewenst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:34 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-40</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W40"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/40|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * A major software upgrade has been made to [[phab:|Phabricator]]. The update introduces performance improvements, a refreshed search interface, enhancements to Maniphest task search, updates to user profile pages and project workboards, new Herald automation features, as well as general text input, mobile experience improvements and more. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/post/view/321/iterative_improvements_september_2025/] '''Updates for editors''' * The Community Tech team will release the new Community Wishlist extension on October 1, that will improve the way wishes will be submitted. The new extension will allow users to add tags to their wishes to better categorise them, and (in a future iteration) to filter them by status, tags and focus areas. It will also be possible to support individual wishes again, as requested by the community in many instances. The old system will be retired. There will be a brief period of downtime while the extension is deployed and wishes are migrated to the new system. You can read more about this [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/Updates|in the latest update]] or you can consult the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CommunityRequests|current documentation on MediaWiki]]. * As announced [[diffblog:2025/09/02/better-detecting-bots-and-replacing-our-captcha/|on Diff blog]], the production trial of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Anti-abuse signals/hCaptcha|hCaptcha]] service for bot detection has begun. The trial is currently using hCaptcha to protect account creation on Chinese, Persian, Portuguese, Indonesian, Japanese, and Turkish Wikipedias, where it will replace our existing [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:ConfirmEdit#FancyCaptcha|CAPTCHA]] (FancyCaptcha). The goal with the trial is to better block bots while also improving usability and accessibility for users who encounter CAPTCHA challenges. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents]] extension has been [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|deployed]] to Wikimedia Commons. The extension makes it easier to organize and participate in collaborative activities, like edit-a-thons and WikiProjects, on the wikis. On Commons, anyone who is a registered user can use it as an event participant. To use it as an organizer, someone needs to have the [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Event organizers|event organizer right]]. * [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing|Sub-referencing]], a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to German Wikipedia. You can [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#test|test the feature]] on testwiki or [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmcloud.org/wiki/Sub-referencing on betawiki] as well. Please share your thoughts on [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Templates used in sub-references|using templates in sub-references]] or [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Pilot wikis|volunteer to become a pilot wiki]]. * On wikis using the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Mentorship|Mentorship]] system, communities can now opt experienced editors out of Mentorship through [[{{#special:CommunityConfiguration/Mentorship}}]]. Within this setting, communities may define thresholds, based on edit count and account age, to decide when an editor is considered experienced enough to no longer receive Mentorship. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403563] * The Editing Team and the Machine Learning Team are working on a new check for newcomers: [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Tone Check|Tone check]]. Using a prediction model, this check will encourage editors to improve the tone of their edits, using artificial intelligence. We invite volunteers to review the first version of the Tone language model for the following languages: Arabic, Czech, German, Hebrew, Indonesian, Dutch, Polish, Russian, Turkish, Chinese, Farsi, Italian, Norwegian, Romanian and Latvian. Users from these wikis interested in reviewing this model are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit_check/Tone_Check/Model_evaluation|invited to sign up at MediaWiki.org]]. The deadline to sign up is on October 3, which will be the start date of the test. * The rollout of [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Manage blocks|multiblocks]] had the side effect that non-active block logs may have been shown on {{#special:Contributions}} and on blocked users' user and user_talk pages. This issue will be fully resolved in a few days. As part of the fix, [{{fullurl:Special:Allmessages|prefix=sp-contributions-blocked-notice}} messages prefixed with <code>sp-contributions-blocked-notice</code>] will be removed and replaced with [{{fullurl:Special:Allmessages|prefix=blocked-notice-logextract}} those prefixed with <code>blocked-notice-logextract</code>] in a few weeks. Please help translate the new messages and update any local overrides if needed. * There was a bug with links added using visual editor if they included characters such as <code dir=ltr><nowiki>[ ] |</nowiki></code> after the fragment identifier (<code><nowiki>#</nowiki></code>). They were not encoded properly creating an incorrect link. This has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404823] * One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote/en}} in [[d:Q9237|Malay]] ([[q:ms:|<code>q:ms:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404698] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Anti-abuse signals/User Info|User Info Card]] now displays currently active global lock/blocks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401128] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Later this week, editors using Lua modules will be able to use the <code>[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.title.newBatch|mw.title.newBatch]]</code> function to look up the existence of up to 25 pages at once, in a way that only increases the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parser functions#Expensive parser functions|expensive function]] count once. * A new [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|Unsupported Tools Working Group]] has been formed as part of ongoing efforts to collectively determine technical work priorities, similar to the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product & Technology Advisory Council]] (PTAC). The working group will help prioritize and review requests for support of unmaintained extensions, gadgets, bots, and tools. For the first cycle, the group will be prioritizing an unsupported Wikimedia Commons tool. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/40|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W40"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 29 sep 2025 22:53 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29355230 --> == Upcoming Dark Mode user interface rollout for anonymous Wikimedia sites users == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> {{int:Hello}} Wikimedians, Apologies if this message is not in your language. {{int:please-translate}}. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web|Reader Experience team]] will launch the Dark mode feature for anonymous users on all Wikimedia sites, including yours, on October 29, 2025. [[:en:Special:MyLanguage/Light-on-dark color scheme|Dark mode]] is an option that allows users to view pages in light-coloured text, and icons on a dark background. Once it is available for anonymous users, they can enable it when using various devices. More information on ways to enable it can be found on [[:en:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia:Dark mode#Options for anyone|this page]]. Given many pages are still not compatible with dark mode this will be an opt-in feature and not automatically apply to pages. Dark mode requires modifications to content pages and templates, and since our initial launch [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/07/17/dark-modes-bright-future-how-dark-mode-will-transform-wikipedias-accessibility/ in July 2024], we have been working with communities and helping them prepare for dark mode. Before the rollout, it is essential that template authors and technical contributors test dark mode and read [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|this page]] to learn how to make pages Dark mode-ready and address any compatibility issues found in templates. We will fix most color compatibility issues only on the most-viewed pages on projects with over 5 million monthly page views. Technical contributors with an account should opt into dark mode currently using preferences or settings and test pages and seek help before the release to ensure everything complies before the enablement. If you have any questions or need help, please [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading#|contact the Reader Experience team]] for support. Thank you! </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:UOzurumba (WMF)|UOzurumba (WMF)]]</bdi> 30 sep 2025 04:08 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:UOzurumba_(WMF)/sandbox_Dark_mode_deployment_mass_message_list_(October_2025)&oldid=29358561 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-41</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W41"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/41|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#paste|Paste Check]] is a new Edit Check feature to help avoid and fight copyright violations. When editors paste text into an article, Paste Check prompts them to confirm the origin and licensing of the content. Starting Wednesday, 8 October, [[phab:T403680|22 wikis will test Paste Check]]. Paste Check will help new volunteers understand and follow the policies and guidelines necessary to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia projects. '''Updates for editors''' * Mobile devices will receive mobile articles directly on the standard domain (like <code>en.wikipedia.org</code>), instead of via a redirect to an "m" domain (like <code>en.m.wikipedia.org</code>). This change improves performance. This week it will be enabled on Wikipedias. The existing mobile URLs and the "Desktop view" opt-out remain available. [[mw:Requests for comment/Mobile domain sunsetting/2025 Announcement|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998] * New [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:CirrusSearch#creationdate and lasteditdate|date filters]], <code dir=ltr>creationdate:</code> and <code dir=ltr>lasteditdate:</code>, are now available in the wiki search engine. This allows users to filter search results by a page's first or last revision date. The filters support comparison operators (e.g. <code dir=ltr>>2024</code>) and relative dates (e.g. <code dir=ltr>today-1d</code>), making it easier to find recently updated content or pages within specific age ranges. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403593] * [[f:|Wikifunctions]] now supports rich text in embedded calls across the 150 wikis where it's enabled. To showcase this, the team created a [[f:Z26333|Latin declination table]] that Wiktionary editors can use to automatically generate noun forms, producing clear, formatted results — see an [[f:Wikifunctions:Embedded function calls/Wiktionary tables demonstration|example output]]. If you need any help or have any feedback, please [[f:Wikifunctions:Project chat|contact the Wikifunctions Team]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T397402] * An edit link will now appear inside the categories box on article pages for logged in users, which will directly launch the VisualEditor category dialog. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T291691] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:34}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:34|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, there was a problem downloading pdf files last week and that has been resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405957] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The field <code dir=ltr>rev_sha1</code> in the revision database table is being removed in favor of <code dir=ltr>content_sha1</code> in the content database table. See [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/2D2M3SP4WHR6BXXKTZ2PBLZQYR3EGQVR/ the announcement] for more information. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web|Reader Experience team]] will roll out [[w:en:Light-on-dark color scheme|Dark Mode]] user interface on all Wikimedia sites on October 29, 2025. All anonymous users of Wikimedia sites will have the option to activate a color scheme that features light-colored text on a dark background. This is designed to provide a more comfortable reading experience, especially in low-light situations. Template authors and technical contributors are encouraged to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|learn how to make pages ready for Dark mode]] and address any compatibility issues found in templates in their wiki before the enablement. Please contact the Web team for questions or any support on [[mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading#|this talk page]] before the enablement. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395628] * Starting on Monday, October 6, API endpoints under the <code>rest.php</code> path will be rerouted through a new internal API Gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the [[phab:tag/serviceops/|Service Ops team board]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T400130] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.22|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/41|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W41"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 6 okt 2025 19:23 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29400897 --> == haakje openen i haakjesluiten toegevoegd bij het inhoudssjabloon van een lemma na editten en opslaan == er wordt momenteel <nowiki><i></nowiki> toegevoegd aan de ingangen van het inhoud van een lemma als je een artikel edit en weer opslaat. Dit is niet te zien als je artikel aan het editten bent en ook als je niets veranderd gebeurt dat zie bijvoorbeeld het lemma breder. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:30 (CEST) probleem lijkt te zijn opgelost. :Dit probleem werd veroorzaakt door een foutje in een update van de Wikimediaprogrammatuur. Het is ondertussen opgelost. Zie [[Overleg_gebruiker:MarcoSwart#schuin_gedrukte_inhoud|dit overleg]] voor meer details. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 12:47 (CEST) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Have your say: vote for the 2025 Board of Trustees</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> Hello all, The voting period for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|2025 Board of Trustees election]] is now open. Candidates are running for two (2) seats on the Board. To check your voter eligibility, please visit the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Voter eligibility guidelines|voter eligibility page]]. Learn more about them by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidates|reading their application statements and watch their candidacy videos]]. When you are ready, go to the [[m:Special:SecurePoll/vote/405|SecurePoll voting page to vote]]. '''The vote is open from October 8 at 00:00 UTC to October 22 at 23:59 UTC.''' Best regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi<br />Chair, Elections Committee<section end="announcement-content" /> </div> [[Gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 06:49 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:RamzyM (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29360896 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-42</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W42"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/42|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Last week, improvements to account security and two-factor authentication (2FA) features were enabled across all wikis. These changes include user interface improvements for [https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:AccountSecurity Special:AccountSecurity], the support of multiple 2FA methods via authenticator apps and portable security keys (previously users could only enable one method), and a new Recovery Codes module which facilitates fewer account lockouts due to lost two-factor apps and devices. As part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] project, work is continuing through the rest of 2025 on further user experience improvements, and support for passkeys as an alternate second factor. '''Updates for editors''' * Another part of the Account security project is making 2FA generally available to all users. Along with editors with advanced privileges, such as administrators and bureaucrats, 40% of editors now have access to 2FA. You can check if you have access at [https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:AccountSecurity Special:AccountSecurity]. Instructions for activation are on the linked page. The plan is to continue increasing availability if it is determined that the user support capabilities are able to support global usage. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T400579] * This week, users at wikis where talk page [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability|Usability Improvements]] are already available by default (everywhere ''except'' the 12 wikis listed in [[phab:T379264|T379264]]) will gain the ability to Thank a comment directly from the talk page it appears on. Before this change, Thanking could only be done by visiting the revision history of the talk page. You can [[diffblog:2025/10/13/revolutionizing-gratitude-a-new-era-of-thanking-comments/|learn more about this change]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366095] * Users who have not [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal-email|verified their email address]] will soon be receiving monthly Notification reminders to do so. This is because users who have verified their email can more easily recover their account. These reminders will not be sent if the user is inactive or removes the unverified email from their account. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Email_confirmation][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58074] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a fix was made for an occasional error with saving translated paragraphs in the Content Translation tool, and the related error messages are now easier to see. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376531] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The Unsupported Tools Working Group has chosen [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2Commons]] as the first tool for its pilot cycle. The group will explore ways to improve and sustain the tool over the coming months. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|Learn more on Meta]]. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.23|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/42|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W42"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 13 okt 2025 20:59 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29434481 --> == Report concerning User:~2025-28143-59 == [[Special:Contributions/~2025-28143-59|~2025-28143-59]] &ndash; Vandalism. Long-term abuse <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small> --[[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19|Nvdtn19]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Nvdtn19|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 14:05 (CEST) :Deze melding lijkt te berusten op een vergissing door een vandalismebestrijder die geen Nederlands spreekt. Ik heb hem hierop aangesproken via zijn gebruikerspagina. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 15:47 (CEST) == Help ons een naam te kiezen voor Abstract Wikipedia == <section begin="function1"/> {{int:Hello}}! Help ons alsjeblieft een naam te kiezen voor het nieuwe wikiproject Abstract Wikipedia. Dit project wordt een wiki waar gebruikers functies van [[:f:|Wikifuncties]] en gegevens van Wikidata kunnen combineren om zinnen te genereren in alle ondersteunde talen. Deze zinnen kunnen vervolgens worden gebruikt door elke Wikipedia (of elders). Er zullen twee stemrondes zijn, elk gevolgd door een juridische beoordeling van de kandidaten. De stemmingen beginnen op 20 oktober en 17 november 2025. Ons doel is om medio december 2025 een definitieve projectnaam te kiezen. Als je wilt deelnemen, '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|klik dan hier voor meer informatie en stem nu]]''' op meta-wiki. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}} <section end="function1"/> -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 20 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29432175 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-43</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W43"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/43|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * To optimize how user data is stored in our databases, the saved preferences of users who haven't logged in for over five years and have fewer than 100 edits will be cleared. When those users return, default settings will apply. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406724] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, there was a broken link from the GlobalContributions interface message to the XTools GlobalContributions page which has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406415] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The work to reroute all traffic to API endpoints under the <code dir=ltr><nowiki>rest.php</nowiki></code> route through a common API gateway is now complete. If any issues are observed, please file a phabricator ticket to the [[phab:tag/serviceops/|Service Ops team board]]. * Edits to Wikidata references or qualifiers will now be shown in RecentChanges and Watchlist entries on other wikis less often, reducing unnecessary notifications. This will reduce the overall quantity of 'noisy' entries. Wikidata's own pages remain unchanged. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401290] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.24|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/43|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W43"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 20 okt 2025 21:36 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29478670 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-44</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W44"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The Wikipedia iOS app has launched an A/B/C test of improvements made to the tabbed browsing feature for select regions and languages. The test, named “More dynamic tabs”, explores new tab experiences and includes “Did you know” and “Because you read” article recommendations. You can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/Tabbed Browsing (Tabs)/New Tab Experience and Recommendations Experiment|read more on the project page]]. * Autoconfirmed users on [[git:operations/mediawiki-config/+/a2d2aaab9ace84280dd2f4c70a33bb69cd73850f/dblists/small.dblist|small]] and [[git:operations/mediawiki-config/+/a2d2aaab9ace84280dd2f4c70a33bb69cd73850f/dblists/medium.dblist|medium wikis]] with the CampaignEvents extension can now use [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event Center/Registration|Event Registration]] without the Event Organizer right. This feature lets organizers enable registration, manage participants, and lets users register with one click instead of signing event pages. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue of flashing colors when holding or pressing the arrow keys under the dark mode settings in Vector 2022 has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402285] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The CampaignEvents extension will be deployed to all remaining wikis during the week of 17 November 2025. The extension currently includes three features: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation List. For this rollout, Invitation List will not be enabled on Wikifunctions and MediaWiki unless requested by those communities. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|Visit the deployment page to learn more]]. * The SwaggerUI-based REST sandbox experience is now live on all wiki projects. The sandbox can be accessed through the [[{{#special:RestSandbox}}]] page. Please report any issues to the MediaWiki Interfaces team board, or join the discussion on the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Interfaces Team/Feature Feedback/REST Sandbox|project launch]] page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/6931/] * Transform endpoints with a trailing slash path in the MediaWiki REST API are now marked as deprecated. They will remain functional during this time, but removal is expected by the end of January 2026. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found and tested using the [https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?api=mw-extra&title=Special%3ARestSandbox REST Sandbox]. See the [[mw:API/Deprecation|MediaWiki REST API Deprecation]] page for more detailed information about the API deprecation policies and procedures. * A dedicated [[mw:API:REST API/Changelog|changelog now exists for the MediaWiki REST API]]. The changelog provides an overview of these changes, making it easier for developers to keep track of improvements and iterations. Announcements will also continue to flow through the standard communication channels, including Tech News and email distribution lists, but can now be more easily referenced from a central location. If you have feedback about the style, structure, or content of this changelog, please [[mw:API talk:REST API/Changelog|join the discussion]]. * Administrators can delete the tracking category which was previously added by the JsonConfig extension, as it is no longer used. See the categories linked from [[d:Q130635582#sitelinks-wikipedia|Q130635582]]. It is OK if there are still pages listed in the category as that is just a caching issue, and they will be automatically cleared out the next time each page is edited. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T378352] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.25|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W44"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 27 okt 2025 20:31 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29513638 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers. Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages: * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Affiliations Committee|Affiliations Committee (AffCom)]] * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Ombuds commission|Ombuds commission (OC)]] * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Community Resilience and Sustainability/Trust and Safety/Case Review Committee|Case Review Committee (CRC)]] Applications for the committees open on October 30, 2025. Applications for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on December 11, 2025. Learn how to apply by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Committee appointments|visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki]]. Post to the talk page or email cst[[File:At sign.svg|16x16px|link=|(_AT_)]]wikimedia.org with any questions you may have. For the Committee Support team, <section end="announcement-content" /> </div> -[[m:User:MKaur (WMF)| MKaur (WMF)]] 30 okt 2025 15:14 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:MKaur (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29517125 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-45</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W45"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/45|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Administrators will now find that [[{{#special:MergeHistory}}]] is now significantly more flexible about what it can merge. It can now merge sections taken from the middle of the history of the source (rather than only the start) and insert revisions anywhere in the history of the destination page (rather than only the start). [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T382958] * For users with "{{int:discussiontools-preference-autotopicsub}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|enabled in their preferences]], starting a new topic or adding a reply to an existing topic will now subscribe them to replies to that topic. Previously, this would only happen if the DiscussionTools "{{int:Skin-action-addsection}}" or "{{int:Discussiontools-replybutton}}" widgets were used. When DiscussionTools was originally launched existing accounts were not opted in to automatic topic subscriptions, so this change should primarily affect newer accounts and users who have deliberately changed their preferences since that time. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290778] * Scribunto modules can now be used to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#SVG library|generate SVG images]]. This can be used to build charts, graphics and other visualizations dynamically through Lua, reducing the need to compose them externally and upload them as files. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405861] * Wikimedia sites now provide all anonymous users with the option to enable a dark mode color scheme, featuring light-colored text on a dark background. This enhancement aims to deliver a more enjoyable reading experience, especially in dimly lit environments. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395628] * Users with large watchlists have long faced timeouts when editing [[Special:EditWatchlist|Special:EditWatchlist]]. The page now loads entries in smaller sections instead of all at once due to a paging update, allowing everyone to edit their watchlists smoothly. As part of the database update, sorting by expiry has been removed because it was over 100× slower than sorting by title. A [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/W454 community wish] has been created to explore alternative ways to restore sort-by-expiry. If this feature is important to you, please support the wish! [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41510] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the fixing of the persisting highlighting when using VisualEditor find and replace during a query. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T407318] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Since 2019 the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia URL Shortener|Wikimedia URL Shortener]] at https://w.wiki is available for all Wikimedia wikis to create short links to articles, permalinks, diffs, etc. It is available in the sidebar as "Get shortened URL". There are 30 wikis that also install an older "ShortUrl" extension. The old extension will soon be removed. This means <code>/s/</code> URLs will not be advertised under article titles via HTML <code dir=ltr>class="title-shortlink"</code>. The <code>/s/</code> URLs will keep working. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107188] * On Thursday, October 30, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Interfaces Team|MediaWiki Interfaces]] and [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Site Reliability Engineering|SRE Service Operations]] teams began rerouting Action API traffic through a common API gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/serviceops/ Service Ops team] board. * MediaWiki Train deployments will pause for the final two weeks of 2025: 22 December and 29 December. Backport windows will also pause between Monday, 22 December 2025 and Thursday, 2 January 2026. A backport window is a scheduled time to add things like bug fixes and configuration changes. There are seven deployment trains remaining for 2025. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/SMWTEAES4SDLDUSK4HMWNBSKNCXZAWYN/] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.26|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * In 2025, the Wikimedia Foundation reported that AI systems and search engines increasingly use Wikipedia content without driving users to the site, contributing to an 8% drop in human pageviews compared to 2024. After detecting bots disguised as humans, Wikimedia updated its traffic data to reflect this shift. Read more about current user trends on Wikipedia in [[diffblog:2025/10/17/new-user-trends-on-wikipedia/|a Diff blog post]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/45|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W45"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 3 nov 2025 20:34 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29552512 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-46</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W46"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/46|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' [[File:Talk pages default look (April 2023).jpg|thumb|alt=Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages|Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.]] * Starting November 12, users will see a change in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Feature summary#Usability improvements|appearance of talk pages]] on [[Phab:T379264|some Wikipedias]]. Almost [[phab:T392121|all wikis]] have received this design change; [[phab:T409297|English Wikipedia]] will get these changes later. You can read more [[diffblog:2024/05/02/making-talk-pages-better-for-everyone/|on ''Diff'']]. Users can opt out of these changes [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|in their user preferences]] in "{{int:discussiontools-preference-visualenhancements}}". [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T379264] * MediaWiki can now display a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Protection indicators|page indicator]] automatically while a page is protected. This feature is disabled by default. It can be enabled by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Requesting wiki configuration changes|community request]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12347] * Using the "{{int:showpreview}}" or "{{int:showdiff}}" buttons in the wikitext editor will now carry over certain URL parameters like '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parameters to index.php#useskin|useskin]]', '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parameters to index.php#uselang|uselang]]' and '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Section#Editing sections|section]]'. This update also fixes an issue where, if the browser crashed while previewing an edit to a single section, saving this edit could overwrite the entire page with just that section’s content. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62744][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24029][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155097] * Wikivoyage wikis can use [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Kartographer#Markers and counters|colored map markers in the article text]]. The text of these markers will now be shown in contrasting black or white color, instead of always being white. Local workarounds for the problem can be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T369454] * The Activity tab in the Wikipedia Android app is now available for all users. The new tab offers personalized insights into reading, editing, and donation activity, while simplifying navigation and making app use more engaging. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/Activity_Tab_Experiment] * The Reader Growth team is launching an experiment called "Image browsing" to test how to make it easier for readers to browse and discover images on Wikipedia articles. This experiment, a mobile-only A/B test, will go live on English Wikipedia in the week of November 17 and will run for four weeks, affecting 0.05% of users on English wiki. The test launched on November 3 on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese wikis, affecting up to 10% of users on those wikis. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Reader_Growth/WE3.1.3_Image_Browsing] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:27}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:27|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example the inability to lock accounts on mobile sites has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256185] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[wikitech:Help talk:Toolforge/Toolforge standards committee#November 2025 committee nominations|Nominations are open on Wikitech]] for new [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Toolforge standards committee|Toolforge standards committee]] members. The committee oversees the Toolforge [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Right to fork policy|Right to fork policy]] and [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Abandoned tool policy|Abandoned tool policy]] among other duties. Nominations will remain open through 2025-11-28. * The [[w:JSON Web Token#Standard fields|JWT issuer field]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/For Developers#OAuth 2|OAuth 2 access tokens]] for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|SUL wikis]] has been changed to <code><nowiki>https://meta.wikimedia.org</nowiki></code>. Old access tokens will still work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399199] * The [[w:JSON Web Token#Standard fields|JWT subject field]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/For Developers#OAuth 2|OAuth 2 access tokens]] will soon change from <code><user id></code> to <code dir=ltr style="white-space:nowrap">mw:<identity type>:<user id></code>, where <code><identity type></code> is typically <code dir=ltr>CentralAuth:</code><!-- not a typo --> (for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|SUL wikis]]) or <code dir=ltr style="white-space:nowrap">local:<wiki id></code> (for other wikis). This is to avoid conflicts between different user ID types, and to make OAuth 2 access tokens and the <code>sessionJwt</code> cookie more similar. Old access tokens will still work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399199] * MediaWiki's block messages ([[MediaWiki:Blockedtext|blockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext-partial|blockedtext-partial]], [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext|autoblockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Systemblockedtext|systemblockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext-tempuser|blockedtext-tempuser]], [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext-tempuser|autoblockedtext-tempuser]]) now support additional parameters indicating whether the user is blocked from editing their own user talk page <code><nowiki>$9</nowiki></code> or emailing other users <code><nowiki>$</nowiki><nowiki>10</nowiki></code>. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285612] * A <code>REL1_45</code> branch for MediaWiki core and each of the extensions and skins in Wikimedia git has been created. This is the first step in the release process for MediaWiki 1.45.0, scheduled for late November 2025. If you are working on a critical bug fix or working on a new feature, you may need to take note of this change. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/ZUY7TY3Z6XPZWZVAZV63OPO5OW52Q6GE/] * The process for generating CirrusSearch dumps has been updated due to slowing performance. If you encounter any issues migrating to the replacement dumps, please contact the Search Platform Team for support. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366248][https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/3KQPOR6ACVN6OVLMLZPIBXQSWQKW4E3K/] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.2|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/46|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W46"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 10 nov 2025 21:38 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29606150 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-47</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W47"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/47|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|Reader Experience team]] is experimenting with [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience/WE3.3.4_Reading lists|reading lists on mobile web]], allowing logged-in readers with no edits to save private lists of articles for later. The experiment is running on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias since the week of 10 November, and will begin on English Wikipedia the week of 17 November. * Users who can’t receive their email verification code during login can now get help by submitting a form on a new special page. This update is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] initiative. If your account has an email address, please make sure you still have access to it. When logging in from a new device or location without 2FA, you may be asked to enter a 6-digit code sent by email to finish logging in. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security#Why are you requiring me to enter a code from my email to log in? Can I opt out of this?|Learn more]]. * One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikisource}} in [[d:Q13324|Minangkabau]] ([[s:min:|<code>s:min:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408317] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * As part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser Unification|Parser Unification]] project, the Content Transform Team rolled out Parsoid as the default parser to many low-traffic Wikipedias and is preparing the next step to high traffic ones. This message is an invitation for you to opt-in to Parsoid, as described in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserMigration|Extension:ParserMigration]] documentation, and identify any issues you might encounter with your own workflow using bots, gadgets, or user scripts. Please, let us know through the ''"Report Visual Bug"'' link in the Tools sidebar or create a phab ticket and tag the [[phab:project/view/5846|Content Transform Team in Phabricator]]. * Unsupported Tools: Several issues with [[:c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2Commons]] have been fixed, including filename-related upload failures, black-video imports, and retry handling. AV1 support has also been added. Ongoing work focuses on backend stability, ffmpeg errors, subtitle imports, metadata handling, and playlist uploads. To track specific tasks, check the [[phab:tag/video2commons/|Phabricator board]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.3|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * Save the date for the next Wikimedia Hackathon happening in Milan, Italy from May 1–3, 2026. Registration will open in January 2026. [https://pretix.eu/wikimedia/Hackathon-2026/ Scholarship applications are currently open], and will close on November 28, 2025. If you have any questions, please email <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">hackathon@wikimedia.org</bdi>. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/47|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W47"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 17 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29627455 --> == Herinnering: Help ons een naam te kiezen voor Abstract Wikipedia == <section begin="function2"/> {{int:Hello}}! Herinnering: help ons alsjeblieft bij het kiezen van een naam voor het nieuwe wikiproject Abstract Wikipedia. De stemming over de finalisten begint vandaag. De finalisten voor de naam zijn: <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Abstract Wikipedia, Multilingual Wikipedia, Wikiabstracts, Wikigenerator, Proto-Wiki</span>. Als je wilt deelnemen, '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|klik dan hier voor meer informatie en stem nu]]''' op meta-wiki. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}} <section end="function2"/> -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 20 nov 2025 15:23 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29583860 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-48</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W48"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/48|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Last week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Search Platform|Wikimedia Search Team]] recreated the "DWIM" (Do What I Mean) gadget functionality server-side, for Russian and Hebrew Wikipedias. This feature adds cross-keyboard suggestions to the standard search-box suggestions. For example, searching for ''<span lang="und" dir="ltr">cxfcnmt</span>'' on Russian Wikipedia will now add suggestions for ''<span lang="ru" dir="ltr">счастье</span>'' ("happiness") that the user probably intended. They plan to enable this feature for other Russian and Hebrew wikis this week. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408734] * Later this week, users of the "{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]] will have syntax highlighting available in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]]. This requires that the "{{int:discussiontools-preference-sourcemodetoolbar}}" preference be set. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T407918] * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|Campaign events extension]] – the set of tools for coordinating events and other on-wiki collaborations has now been deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. A new feature known as [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Collaborative contributions|Collaborative contribution]] to help organizers and participants see the impact of activities has also been added. Join the upcoming [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event:Connection learning session 3|learning session]] to see the new feature in action and share your feedback. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:24}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:24|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug which stopped CodeReviewBot from working, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410417] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Users of Wikimedia API can join a usability study to help validate the new design of Wikimedia REST API sandboxes. Interested participants should fill the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/487662 recruitment survey]. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/IREJRRWTZTGCYWQHDMSNJFTQAEPOOAE3/] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is deprecating XSLT stylesheets within the Action API. Support for <code dir=ltr>format=xml'''&xlst={stylesheet}'''</code> will be removed from Wikimedia projects by the end of November, 2025. In addition, it will soon be disabled by default in MediaWiki release versions: v1.43 (LTS), v1.44, and v1.45. Support for XSLT stylesheets will be fully removed from MediaWiki v1.46 (expected to release between April and May 2026). [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/5AX7UWAVVUNUSBOIRHMNOKWOZ5EZI3JX/] * The WDQS legacy endpoint ([https://query-legacy-full.wikidata.org/ query-legacy-full.wikidata.org]) will be decommissioned at the end of December 2025, and finally closed down on 7th January 2026. After this date, users should expect requests to query.wikidata.org that require the full graph to fail or return invalid results if they are not rewritten to use SPARQL federation. The team encourages users to ensure that tools and workflows use the supported WDQS endpoints (<span dir=ltr><nowiki>https://query.wikidata.org/</nowiki></span> - Main graph or <span dir=ltr><nowiki>https://query-scholarly.wikidata.org/</nowiki></span> - Scholarly graph). For support with migrating use cases, please review the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Data_access|Data Access]] and [[d:Wikidata:Request_a_query|Request a Query]] pages for details and assistance on alternative access methods. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.4|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/48|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W48"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 24 nov 2025 16:56 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29702226 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-49</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W49"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/49|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The Wikipedia Year in Review 2025 will be available on December 2 for users of iOS and Android Wikipedia apps, featuring new personalized insights, updated reading highlights, and refreshed designs. Learn more on the review's [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Wikipedia Year in Review/Updates|project page]]. * The Growth team is working on improving the text and presentation of the Verification Email sent to new users to make them more welcoming, useful and informative. Some new text have been drafted for A/B testing and you can help by translating them. See [[phab:T396155|Phabricator]]. * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]] will now be deployed at Japanese, Urdu and Chinese Wikipedias on December 2. Add a link is based on a prediction model that suggests links to be added to articles. While this feature has already been available on most Wikipedias, the prediction model could not support certain languages. A new model has now been developed to handle these languages, and it will be gradually rolled out to other Wikipedias over time. If you would like to know more, please contact [[mw:user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek (WMF)]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:34}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:34|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where search boxes on some Commons pages showed no results due to switch from SpecialSearch to MediaSearch, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399476] * Two new wikis have been created: ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q36846|Toki Pona]] ([[w:tok:|<code>w:tok:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404457] ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote}} in [[d:Q33655|Nigerian Pidgin]] ([[q:pcm:|<code>q:pcm:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408318] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.5|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The Wikimedia Foundation is in the early stages of exploring approaches to '''Article guidance'''. The initiative aims to identify interventions that could help new editors easily understand and apply existing Wikipedia practices and policies when creating an article. The project is in the exploration and early experimental design phase. All community members are encouraged to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|learn more]] about the project, and share their thoughts on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Article guidance|the talk page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/49|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W49"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 1 dec 2025 19:58 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29732328 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-50</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W50"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/50|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Anybody who wishes to secure their user account can now use [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Two-factor authentication|two-factor authentication]] (2FA). This is available to all registered users of all Wikimedia projects. This is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] initiative. Later, 2FA will be required for all users who can take security- or privacy-sensitive actions. '''Updates for editors''' * Following last week's deployments, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]] feature, which allows editors to add suggested links during editing, will be available to an additional [[Phab:T410469|33 Wikipedias]] starting on 9 December. This expansion is possible thanks to the new prediction model that now supports all languages, including those that were previously not covered. While the feature has been available on most Wikipedias for some time, this rollout brings us closer to using the improved model everywhere. If you have any questions or would like more details please contact [[mw:user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek (WMF)]]. * Last week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Search Platform|Search Platform team]] added [[w:en:Transliteration|transliterated]] as-you-type search suggestions to Georgian wikis. If there are only a few regular search suggestions, then queries in Latin or Cyrillic script [[phab:T127003|are now rewritten into Georgian script]] to look for more matches. For example, searching for either <bdi lang="ka-Latn" dir="ltr">''bedniereba''</bdi> or <bdi lang="ka-Cyrl" dir="ltr">''бедниереба''</bdi> will now suggest the existing article about <bdi lang="ka" dir="ltr">ბედნიერება</bdi> ("happiness"). You can recommend other languages where transliterated suggestions would be useful [[phab:T375215|on Phabricator]] for future development. * Later this week, a controlled experiment will begin for editors on the 100 largest Wikipedias who are editing a section in the mobile web visual editor. 50% of these editors will notice a new "Edit full page" button that will enable them to expand their editing session to the whole page. This feature is intended to make it easier for people on mobile web to edit any article section, regardless of which section-edit icon they tapped to begin. The experiment will last ~4 weeks. You can find [[phab:T409112|more details]] about the project. * Later this week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth|Reader Growth team]] will launch a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth/WE3.1.14 Expanded Mobile Sections|mobile web experiment]] to expand all article sections by default (currently they are collapsed by default) and pin the section header the user is currently reading to the top of the page. The experiment will affect 10% of users on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409485] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Wikipedia Year in Review/2025 Year in Review|Wikipedia Year in Review 2025]], a feature in the Wikipedia mobile apps (iOS and Android) that provides users with a personalised summary of their engagement with Wikipedia over the year, is now available on the iOS and Android apps. This edition includes expanded personalised insights, improved reading highlights, new donor messaging, and updated designs. Open the app to view your Year in Review and explore your reading journey from 2025. * A recent software bug caused edits made with VisualEditor to make unintended changes to wikitext, including removing whitespace and replacing spaces with underscores in wikilinks inside citations. This was partially fixed last week, and further fixes are in progress. Editors who used VisualEditor between November 28 and December 2 should review their edits for unexpected modifications. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411238] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the incorrect handling of URLs copied from the address bar of Microsoft Edge users, has been resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341281] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Starting this week, users of the "{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]] will have [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] as the editor for Lua, JavaScript, CSS, JSON and Vue content models, instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]]. With this, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Linting|linters]] will be upgraded. This is part of a larger effort to eventually replace CodeEditor and provide a consistent code editing experience. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373711] * Developers are encouraged to take the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/552643 2025 Developer Satisfaction Survey], which remains open until 5 January 2026. If you build software for the Wikimedia ecosystem and would like to share your experiences or feedback, your participation is greatly appreciated. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/W4WBKO6Q55UWWCCSFWQATKEXBEHP3QNR/] * There is no new MediaWiki version this week. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/50|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W50"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 8 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29738112 --> == Miljonairs == Nadat we twee weken terug de mijlpaal van 600.000 pagina's met een Nederlands woord bereikten, is WikiWoordenboek ergens gisterenmiddag rond 17.14 uur het miljoen pagina's in de hoofdnaamruimte gepasseerd. Omdat er wel eens wat wordt gesomberd over de toekomst van het Nederlands: onze taal behoort nu tot de 6 talen die zowel een Wikipedia als een Wiktionary met meer dan 1 miljoen pagina's hebben (Engels, Frans, Duits, Chinees, Russisch en Nederlands). Ik verwacht dat het Zweeds zich komend jaar bij die groep gaat voegen. Terugtellend kom ik uit bij de [[muurzwelmossen]] als miljoenste woord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 07:41 (CET) :Op zich heel mooi (best wonderlijk ook dat de projecten in het Spaans en Portugees wat dit betreft blijkbaar nog achterlopen op het Nederlands, terwijl dat wereldwijd bezien veel grotere talen zijn), maar toch hecht ik zelf vooral aan het verbeteren van de inhoudelijke kwaliteit. :Verder wat het pure aantal betreft: het is me al veel langer opgevallen dat er erg veel import vanaf WP hierheen plaatsvindt, vooral van dierenartikelen (op WP zijn die eerder meestal massaal aangemaakt met een gebruikersbot, en over de inhoudelijke betrouwbaarheid is nog altijd geregeld discussie op WP). Daar is de huidige 1 miljoen dus vooral aan te danken. Wie voelt er iets voor een deelproject om die artikelen hier deels te herschrijven, bijvoorbeeld met een originelere definitie en waar nodig vooral lexicologische aanvullingen? (De definitie is nu nog heel vaak een letterlijk gekopieerde WP-intro.) :Een ander nu heel belangrijk verbeterpunt is het verder aanvullen van veel bestaande pagina's. Nu wordt een woord dat soms in tientallen talen dezelfde vorm heeft, hier vaak nog steeds alleen in het Nederlands beschreven. Ik heb zelf vooral kennis van de grotere Indo-Europese talen (Engels, Frans, Duits) maar niet van de meeste minder bekende talen. Het devies is, lijkt mij, zorgen dat er meer "externe krachten" hier actief worden. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 11:56 (CET) ::Met je slotzin ben ik het eens. Het helpt daarbij als we de mensen die hier lemma's toevoegen laten blijken dat we hun inspanning op prijs stellen en af en toe ook samen bereikte resultaten vieren. ::De lemma's over dieren vormen overigens maar enkele procenten van het miljoen pagina's. Inhoudelijk zijn ze in de regel prima in orde, wellicht omdat ze juist ''niet'' klakkeloos zijn overgenomen. Ik pas vrijwel dagelijks omschrijvingen aan zodat ze meer in een woordenboek passen, maar dat geldt niet alleen voor dieren, maar ook voor tal van andere lemma's. Maar er is nog veel te doen. Ik ben vooral blij dat er het afgelopen jaar heel wat nieuwe bewerkers bij zijn gekomen, waardoor we deze mijlpaal veel eerder bereiken dan ik een jaar terug had gedacht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 23:12 (CET) : Een mooie mijlpaal, gefeliciteerd allen! Ik hou me vooralsnog vooral bezig met het toevoegen van Nederlandse lemmata aan en.wikt, maar het Nederlandse Wikiwoordenboek is daarbij een enorme steun. [[Gebruiker:Mnemosientje|Mnemosientje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mnemosientje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 13:14 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-51</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W51"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/51|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:18}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:18|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, one of the fixes addressed an issue for temporary accounts adding an external URL, which triggered an hCaptcha request in more cases than intended, and did not display the required popup on the first attempt to publish the edit. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411927] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * To improve database and site performance, external links to Wikimedia projects will no longer be stored in the database. This means they will not be searchable in [[{{#special:LinkSearch}}]], will not be checked by the Spam Blacklist or AbuseFilter as new links, and will not be in the <code dir=ltr>externallinks</code> table on database replicas. In the future this may be extended to other highly-linked trusted websites on a per-wiki basis, such as Creative Commons links on Wikimedia Commons. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405005] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.7|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/51|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W51"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 15 dec 2025 20:03 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29796010 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-52</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W52"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/52|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * From January, edit filters [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter/Access flags|can be set]] to automatically suppress their details such as rules and list of attempted edits and actions. This will help oversighters use edit filters to prevent doxxing or other suppressible material. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290324] * The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 12 January 2026 because of the end of year holidays. Thank you to all of the translators, and people who submitted content or feedback, this year. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:16}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:16|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the crash that occurred when tapping "First Steps" in the Wikipedia Android Year in Review has now been fixed, and the feature opens as expected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411546] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Interface elements such as diffs and categories generated by MediaWiki used to have the attribute <code dir=ltr>data-mw="interface"</code> to distinguish from wiki content. The attribute has been replaced with <code dir=ltr>data-mw-interface=""</code>, to avoid potential conflicts with other <code dir=ltr>data-mw</code> attributes, which are generated by Parsoid. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409187] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week. '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026|Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026]] will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications just opened mid-December and will close in mid-January or earlier if capacity is reached. With space for approximately 100 participants, early application is encouraged. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/52|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W52"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 22 dec 2025 22:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29831856 --> == Van Dale is gestopt met zijn gratis online woordenboek == Vanaf 10 december is het gratis aanbod op de site van Van Dale beperkt tot het puzzelwoordenboek en het rijmwoordenboek. Als reden wordt opgegeven dat Van Dale zijn gebruikers een betere taalervaring wil bieden: zonder advertenties, zonder afleiding en met toegang tot alle functies die nodig zijn. Het gratis woordenboek werd vaak verward met de Dikke Van Dale, maar bood maar een beperkte selectie van woorden, met een duidelijk kleinere omvang dan WikiWoordenboek. Het alternatief is nu een betaald abonnement van € 81,75 per jaar voor de Dikke Van Dale of van € 5,44 per jaar voor de versie voor onderwijs NT2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 14:09 (CET) == Report concerning User:~2026-14769-0 == [[Special:Contributions/~2026-14769-0|~2026-14769-0]] &ndash; Vandalism <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small> --[[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 00:10 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-03</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W03"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/03|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Product & Technology OKRs|Meta]] and ''[[diffblog:2025/12/10/shaping-wikimedia-foundations-2026-2027-annual-goals-key-questions-for-the-wikimedia-movement/|Diff]]''. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on the [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. '''Updates for editors''' * As part of the current work of Community Tech team on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/W372|Multiple watchlists]] project, the display of [[Special:EditWatchlist|EditWatchlist]] will be updated as a first step towards multiple watchlists. Additionally, the pagination on [[Special:Search|Search]] will be updated too, as a part of the work on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/W186|Revamp pagination / page navigation]] wish. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411596] * [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|The Global Watchlist]] is a MediaWiki [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] that lets you see your watchlists from different wikis on the same page. It was recently updated to look more like the regular [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlist]], such as preparing it for temporary accounts in IP masking (including rerouting user links to contributions pages), making page titles bold, and opening links in edit summaries and tags in new browser tabs. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T398361][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T298919][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273526][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286309] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where global blocks did not have the option to disable sending emails, has now been fixed, and will be available for use in the week of January 13. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401293] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Citation tool|VisualEditor citation tool]] and [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Reference Previews|Reference Previews]] now support "map" as a reference type. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411083] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.10|MediaWiki]]/[[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.11|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/03|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W03"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 12 jan 2026 20:33 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29907192 --> == Thank You for Last Year – Join Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 == Dear Wikimedia communities, We hope you are doing well, and we wish you a happy New Year. ''Last year, we captured light. This year, we’ll capture legacy.'' In 2025, communities around the world shared the glow of Ramadan nights and the warmth of collective iftars. In 2026, ''Wiki Loves Ramadan'' is expanding, bringing more stories, more cultures, and deeper global connections across Wikimedia projects. We invite you to explore the ''Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026'' [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026|Meta page]] to learn how you can participate and [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026/Participating communities|sign up]] your community. 📷 ''Photo campaign on '' [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026|Wikimedia Commons]] If you have questions about the project, please refer to the FAQs: * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan/FAQ/|Meta-Wiki]] * [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki Loves Ramadan/FAQ|Wikimedia Commons]] ''Early registration for updates is now open via the '''[[m:Special:RegisterForEvent/2710|Event page]]''''' ''Stay connected and receive updates:'' * [https://t.me/WikiLovesRamadan Telegram channel] * [https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikilovesramadan.lists.wikimedia.org/ Mailing list] We look forward to collaborating with you and your community. '''The Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 Organizing Team''' 16 jan 2026 20:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:ZI Jony@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Non-Technical_Village_Pumps_distribution_list&oldid=29879549 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-04</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W04"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/04|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The tray shown on [[Special:Diff|Special:Diff]] in mobile view has been redesigned. It is now collapsed by default, and incorporates a link to undo the edit being viewed, making it easier for mobile editors and reviewers to take action while keeping the interface uncluttered. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402297] * [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|The Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] continues to improve — it now automatically determines the text direction (ensuring correct display of sites with unusual domain names) and shows detailed descriptions for log actions. Later this week, a new permanent link for page creations and CSS classes for each entry element will be added. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T412505][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T287929][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262768][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414135] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:32}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:32|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the previously observed issue in Vector 2022, where anchor link targets were obscured by the sticky header, has now been addressed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406114] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * As mentioned in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|October 2025 deprecation announcement]], MediaWiki Interfaces team will begin sunsetting all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from the MediaWiki REST API the week of January 26. Changes are expected to roll out to all wikis on or before January 30th. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found, compared, and tested using the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox]. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in Phabricator to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/6931/ #MW-Interfaces-Team board]. * Interactive reference documentation for the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia REST API|Wikimedia REST API]] has moved. Requests to API docs previously hosted through [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/RESTBase|RESTBase]] (e.g.: <code dir=ltr>https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/</code>) are now redirected to the [[w:en:Special:RestSandbox|REST Sandbox]]. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata Platform|WMF Wikidata Platform team]] (WDP) has published its [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Wikidata Platform team/Newsletter|January 2026 newsletter]]. It includes updates on the legacy full-graph endpoint decommissioning, the User-Agent policy change, the monthly Blazegraph migration office hours, and efforts to reduce regressions caused by the legacy endpoint shutdown. As a reminder, you can [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Global message delivery/Targets/WDP team updates|subscribe to the WDP newsletter]]! * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.12|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026|Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026]] will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications opened mid-December and will close soon or when capacity is reached. It's a two-day, technically oriented hackathon bringing together Wikimedians from the region. Hope to see you there! '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/04|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W04"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 19 jan 2026 21:29 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29943403 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Annual review of the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> I am writing to you to let you know the annual review period for the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines is open now. You can make suggestions for changes through 9 February 2026. This is the first step of several to be taken for the annual review. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Annual review/2026|Read more information and find a conversation to join on the UCoC page on Meta]]. The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. This annual review was planned and implemented by the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|you may review the U4C Charter]]. Please share this information with other members in your community wherever else might be appropriate. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]])<section end="announcement-content" /> </div> 19 jan 2026 22:02 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Keegan (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29905753 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-05</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W05"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/05|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia Foundation invites comments on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Year1 Reflections and Proposed Way Forward 2026 Update|proposed future]] of the [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product and Technology Advisory Council]] until 28 February. * All users with registered accounts can now use passkeys for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Two-factor authentication|two-factor authentication]] (2FA). Passkeys are a simple way to log in without using a second device. They verify the user's identity using a fingerprint, face scan, or a PIN code. To set up a passkey, first set up a regular 2FA method. Currently, to log in with a passkey, users must also use a password. Later this quarter, passwordless login will allow users to log in with a single click and a passkey. Users with advanced rights will also be required to have 2FA enabled. This is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] project. * Unregistered contributors on blocked IPs or blocked IP ranges can now interact on-wiki to appeal a block by creating a temporary account to appeal a block on the user talk page, unless the "prevent this user from editing their own talk page" is enabled. This solves the problem of logged-out users unable to use the default unblock process via user talk page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T398673] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) methods description on the management page has been updated. It is now clearer and easier for users to understand and make use of. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332385] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new AbuseFilter variable, <code>account_type</code>, has been added to provide a reliable way to determine the account type being created in the <code>createaccount</code> and <code>autocreateaccount</code> actions. As part of this change, the variable <code>accountname</code> has been renamed to <code>account_name</code>, and <code>accountname</code> is now deprecated. Edit filter managers should update any filters that use hardcoded account type checks or the deprecated variable. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414049] * Image thumbnails that are requested in non-standard sizes, and using non-standard methods such as direct requests to <code dir=ltr><nowiki>upload.wikimedia.org/…</nowiki></code> will stop working in the near future. This change is to prevent ongoing external abuse by web-scrapers and bots. Some users with custom CSS/JS, Interface Admins who can fix gadgets and local skins, and Tool-authors, will need to update their code to use standard thumbnail sizes. [[phab:T414805|Details, search-links, and examples of how to fix them, are available in the task]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.13|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/05|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W05"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 26 jan 2026 22:17 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29969530 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-06</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W06"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/06|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The "{{int:pageinfo-toolboxlink}}" feature, which gives validating information about a page ([{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=info}} example]), now automatically includes a table of contents. If there is a local [[{{ns:8}}:Pageinfo-header]] page created by individual users, it can now be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363726] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, VisualEditor previously added bold or italic formatting inside link descriptions, making the wikicode complex. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409669] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * There was no XML dump on 20 January. Additionally, from now on, dumps will be generated once per month only. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414389] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team removed support for all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/API:REST%20API MediaWiki REST API]. All API users currently calling those endpoints are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in phabricator to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/6931/ #MW-Interfaces-Team board]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.14|MediaWiki]] '''Weekly highlight''' * Users are reminded that the Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Product & Technology OKRs|Meta]] and ''[[diffblog:2025/12/10/shaping-wikimedia-foundations-2026-2027-annual-goals-key-questions-for-the-wikimedia-movement/|Diff]]''. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on the [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/06|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W06"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 2 feb 2026 18:43 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30000986 --> == Toegang tot Ensie == Zouden WikiWoordenboekvrienden toegang kunnen krijgen tot https://www.ensie.nl? Blijkbaar hebben onderwijsinstellingen toegang? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 8 feb 2026 17:53 (CET) :Voor zover ik kan nagaan gaat het daarbij om betaalde abonnementen per instelling. Misschien kunnen Wikimedia België en Wikimedia Nederland een gezamenlijk zo'n instellingsabonnement afsluiten. Je zou ook kunnen kijken of ENSIE kan worden opgenomen in de [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/?next_url=/search/?q= Wikipedia Library]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 14:04 (CET) ::Ensie kopieert zelf geregeld vanaf o.a. dit project en Wikipedia. Het lijkt me dus niet echt nodig om hier een speciale externe link of zo van te maken (je creëert dan immers voornamelijk ''cirkelverwijzingen''), hooguit kan er misschien in bepaalde gevallen naartoe worden gelinkt als dat echt iets van meerwaarde oplevert. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 13:03 (CET) :::De vraag ging - denk ik - alleen maar over de mogelijkheid om ENSIE te raadplegen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-07</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W07"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/07|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * [[File:Maki-gift-15.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Wishlist item]] Logged-in contributors who manage large or complex watchlists can now organise and filter watched pages in ways that improve their workflows with the new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Watchlist labels|Watchlist labels]] feature. By adding custom labels (for example: pages you created, pages being monitored for vandalism, or discussion pages) users can more quickly identify what needs attention, reduce cognitive load, and respond more efficiently. This improves watchlist usability, especially for highly active editors. * A new feature available on [[Special:Contributions|Special:Contributions]] shows [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] that are likely operated by the same person, and so makes patrolling less time-consuming. Upon checking contributions of a temporary account, users with access to temporary account IP addresses can now see a view of contributions from the related temporary accounts. The feature looks up all the IPs associated with a given temporary account within the data retention period and shows all the contributions of all temporary accounts that have used these IPs. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts#February 2026: Improvements to the patroller tooling|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415674] * When editors preview a wikitext edit, the reminder box that they are only seeing a preview (which is shown at the top), now has a grey/neutral background instead of a yellow/warning background. This makes it easier to distinguish preview notes from actual warnings (for example, edit conflicts or problematic redirect targets), which will now be shown in separate warning or error boxes. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414742] * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] continues to improve — it now properly supports more than one Wikibase site, for example both [[d:|Wikidata]] and [[testwikidata:|testwikidata]]. In addition, issues regarding text direction have been fixed for users who prefer Wikidata or other Wikibase sites in right-to-left (RTL) languages. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415440][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415458] * The automatic "magic links" for ISBN, RFC, and PMID numbers have been [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic links|deprecated in wikitext since 2021]] due to inflexibility and difficulties with localization. Several wikis have successfully replaced RFC and PMID magic links with equivalent external links, but a template was often required to replace the functionality of the ISBN magic link. There is now a new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic words#isbn|built-in parser function]] <code dir=ltr><nowiki>{{#isbn}}</nowiki></code> available to replace the basic functionality of the ISBN magic link. This makes it easier for wikis who wish to migrate off of the deprecated magic link functionality to do so. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145604] * Two new wikis have been created: ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q35401|Jju]] ([[w:kaj:|<code>w:kaj:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413283] ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q1186896|Nawat]] ([[w:ppl:|<code>w:ppl:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413273] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new global user group has been created: [[{{int:grouppage-local-bot}}|{{int:group-local-bot}}]]. It will be used internally by the software to allow community bots to bypass rate limits that are applied to abusive [[w:en:Web scraping|web scrapers]]. Accounts that are approved as bots on at least one Wikimedia wiki will be automatically added to this group. It will not change what user permissions the bot has. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415588] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.15|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Spring 2026|MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference, Spring 2026]] will be held March 25–27 in Salt Lake City, USA. This event is organized by and for the third-party MediaWiki community. You can propose sessions and register to attend. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/AZBWVI46SDEB65PGR5J6E4TYOQQEZXM7/] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/07|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W07"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 10 feb 2026 00:30 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30026671 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-08</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W08"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/08|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Site Reliability Engineering|SRE Team]] will be performing a cleanup of Wikimedia's [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Etherpad|Etherpad]] instance, the web-based editor for real-time collaborative document editing. All pads will be permanently deleted after 30 April, 2026 – if there are still migration projects in progress at that point the team can revisit the date on a case by case basis. Please create local backups of any content you wish to keep, as deleted data cannot be recovered. This cleanup helps reduce database size and minimize infrastructure footprint. Etherpad will continue to support real-time collaboration, but long-term storage should not be expected. Additional cleanups may occur in the future without prior notice. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415237] '''Updates for editors''' * The Information Retrieval team will be launching an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Information Retrieval/Phase 1|Android mobile app experiment]] that tests hybrid search capabilities which can handle both semantic and keyword queries. The improvement of on-platform search will enable readers to find what they’re looking for directly on Wikipedia more easily. The experiment will first be launched on Greek Wikipedia in late February, followed by English, French, and Portuguese in March. [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2026/01/08/semantic-search-making-it-easier-to-find-the-information-readers-want/ Read more] on Diff blog. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Information_Retrieval] * The Reader Growth team will run [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth/WE3.10.2 Mobile Table of Contents|an experiment]] for mobile web users, that adds a table of contents and automatically expands all article sections, to learn more about navigation issues they face. The test will be available on Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. * Previously, site notices ([[{{ns:8}}:Sitenotice]] and [[{{ns:8}}:Anonnotice]]) would only render on the desktop site. Now, they will render on all platforms. Users on mobile web will now see these notices and be informed. Site administrators should be prepared to test and fix notices on mobile devices to avoid interference with articles. To opt out, interface admins can add <code dir="ltr">#siteNotice { display: none; }</code> to [[{{ns:8}}:Minerva.css]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138572][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416644] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:19}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:19|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, an issue on [[Special:RecentChanges|Special:RecentChanges]] has been fixed. Previously, clicking hide in the active filters caused the "view new changes since…" button to disappear, though it should have remained visible. The button now behaves as expected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406339] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * New documentation is now available to help editors debug on-site search features. It supports troubleshooting when pages do not appear in results, when ranking seems unexpected, and when you need to inspect what content is being indexed, helping make search behavior easier to understand and analyze. [[mw:Help:CirrusSearch/Debug|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411169] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.16|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/08|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W08"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16 feb 2026 20:17 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30086330 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-09</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W09"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/09|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Reference Check|Reference Check]] has been deployed to English Wikipedia, completing its rollout across all Wikipedias. The feature prompts newcomers to add a citation before publishing new content, helping reduce common citation-related reverts and improve verifiability. In A/B testing, the impact was substantial: newcomers shown Reference Check were approximately 2.2 times more likely to include a reference on desktop and about 17.5 times more likely on mobile web. [https://analytics.wikimedia.org/published/reports/editing/reference_check_ab_test_report_final_2025.html] '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:InterwikiSorting|InterwikiSorting extension]], which allowed for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Interwiki sorting order|sorting of interwiki links]], has been undeployed from Wikipedia. As a result, editors who had enabled interwiki link sorting in non-compact mode (full list format) will now see links reordered. The links moving forward will be listed in the alphabetical order of language code. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253764] * Later this week, people who are editing a page-section using the mobile visual editor, will notice a new "Edit full page" button. When tapped, you will be able to edit the entire article. This helps when the change you want to make is outside the section you initially opened. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T387175][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409112] * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|The Reader Experience team]] is inviting editors to assess whether dark mode should still be considered "beta" on their wiki, based on their experience of how well it functions on desktop and mobile. If the feature is deemed mature, editors can update the interface messages in <code dir=ltr>MediaWiki:skin-theme-description</code> and <code dir=ltr>MediaWiki:Vector-night-mode-beta-tag</code> to indicate that dark mode is ready and no longer considered beta. * The improved [[mw:Wikimedia_Apps/Team/iOS/Activity_Tab|Activity tab]] which displays user-insights is now available to all users of the Wikipedia iOS app (version 7.9.0 and later). Following earlier A/B testing that showed higher account creation among users with access to the feature, it has been rolled out to 100% of users along with some updates. The Activity tab now shows your edited articles in the timeline, offers editing impact insights like contribution counts and article view trends, and customization options to improve in-app experience for users. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a bug that prevented [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]] from working on mobile has now been fixed, restoring full functionality. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415303] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] that makes this possible continues to improve. The latest upgrade is the inclusion of a [[mw:Extension:GlobalWatchlist#hook|new hook]], <code dir=ltr>ext.globalwatchlist.rebuild</code>, which fires after each watchlist rebuild. This allows you to run gadgets and user scripts for the Special page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275159] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.17|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/09|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W09"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23 feb 2026 20:03 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30119102 --> == Samenwerkingsproject met Swánga̱lyiatwuki == Meer dan een jaar geleden heb ik {{WikiW|De_Kroeg/2024#Swánga̱lyiatwuki|in De kroeg}} het {{WikiW|Samenwerking met Swánga̱lyiatwuki|samenwerkingsproject}} met de wiktionary in the Tyap, Swánga̱lyiatwuki aangekondigd. Dit is inmiddels in de derde fase beland. Aan de Nigeriaanse kant vormen de minimale faciliteiten waarmee ze het project moeten ontwikkelen de grootste belemmering. Aan onze kant is lastig dat er vrijwel geen openbaar toegankelijke informatie over het Tyap bestaat. Op dat laatste punt gaat [[Gebruiker:DouwesJolan|Jolan Douwes]], masterstudent taalkunde aan de Universiteit Leiden die via de Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland stage loopt bij WikiWoordenboek ons helpen om een goede beschrijving van woordsoorten en verbuigingen te krijgen, zodat we beter in staat zijn categorieën en sjablonen voor het Tyap te ontwikkelen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 14:43 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-10</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W10"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/10|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikipedia 25 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments|Birthday mode]] is now live on Betawi, Breton, Chinese, Czech, Dutch, English, French, Gorontalo, Indonesian, Italian, Luxembourgish, Madurese, Sicilian, Spanish, Thai, and Vietnamese Wikipedias! This limited-time campaign feature celebrates 25 years of Wikipedia with a birthday mascot, Baby Globe. When turned on, Baby Globe is shown on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments/article configuration|~2,500 articles]], waiting to be discovered by readers. Communities can choose to turn Birthday mode on by getting consensus from their community and asking an admin to enable the feature and customize it via [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments#Community Configuration Demo|community configuration]] on the local wiki. '''Updates for editors''' * [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing|Sub-referencing]], a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to Swedish Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia and [[:phab:T418209|a couple of other wikis]]. You can [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#test|try the feature]] on these projects or on testwiki and [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmcloud.org/wiki/Sub-referencing betawiki]. Learnings from the first pilot wiki German Wikipedia have been [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing/Learnings|published in a report]]. Reach out to the Wikimedia Deutschland team if you are [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Pilot wikis|interested in becoming a pilot wiki]]. * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#Paste check|Paste Check]] will become available at all Wikipedias this week. The feature prompts newcomers who are pasting text they are not likely to have written into VisualEditor to consider whether doing so risks a copyright violation. Paste Check [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Tags|tags]] all edits where it is shown for potential review. Local administrators can configure various aspects of the feature via [[{{#special:EditChecks}}]]. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Paste Check#A/B Experiment|Research]] across 22 wikis found that Paste Check resulted in an 18% decrease in relative reverted-edits compared to the control group. Translators can [https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&group=ext-visualeditor-ve-mw-editcheck&filter=&optional=1&action=translate help to localize] this and related features. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|Reader Experience team]] will be standardizing the user menu in the top right for all mobile users so that it is closer to the desktop experience. Currently this user menu is only visible to users with Advanced Mobile Controls (AMC) turned on. The only change is that a couple buttons previously in the left-side menu will move to the top right for users who do not have AMC turned on. This change is expected to go out March 9 and seeks to improve the user interface. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413912] * Starting in the week of March 2, the emails sent out when an email address was added, removed, or changed for an account will switch to a substantially nicer and clearer HTML email from the prior plaintext one. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410807] * Notifications are currently limited to 2,000 historic entries per user, and extend back to 2013 when the feature was released. This is going to be changed to only store Notifications from the last 5 years, but up to 10,000 of them. This will help with long-term infrastructure health and help to prevent more recent notifications from disappearing too soon. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] which lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on a single page continues to see improvements. The latest update improves label usage experience. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] now allows activating the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Language#Fallback languages|language fallback system]] for Wikidata items without labels in the viewed language, and showing those labels in the user’s preferred Wikidata language if no <code dir=ltr>uselang=</code> URL parameter is provided. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373686][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416111] * The Wikipedia Android team has started a beta test of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Information Retrieval/Phase 1|hybrid search]] on Greek Wikipedia. Hybrid search capabilities can handle both semantic and keyword queries enabling readers to find what they’re looking for directly on Wikipedia more easily. * For security reasons, members of certain user groups are [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Mandatory two-factor authentication for users with some extended rights|required to have two-factor authentication]] (2FA) enabled. Currently, 2FA is required to use the group, but not to be a member of it. Given that this model still has some vulnerabilities, the situation will [[phab:T418580|gradually change in March]]. Members of these groups will be unable to disable last 2FA method on their account, and it will be impossible to add users without 2FA to these groups. Users will still be able to add new authentication methods or remove them, as long as at least one method is continuously enabled. In the second half of March, users without 2FA will be removed from these groups. This applies to: CentralNotice administrators, checkusers, interface administrators, suppressors, Wikidata staff, Wikifunctions staff, WMF Office IT and WMF Trust & Safety. Nothing will change for other users. See the linked task for deployment schedule. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418580] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:27}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:27|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue preventing users from creating an instance in [https://www.wikibase.cloud/ Wikibase.cloud] has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416807] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * To help ensure [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Responsible Reuse|fair use of infrastructure]], over the next month the Wikimedia Foundation will implement global API rate limits across our APIs. In early March, stricter limits will be applied to unidentified requests from outside Toolforge/WMCS and API requests that are made from web browsers. In April, higher limits will be applied to identified traffic. These limits are intentionally set as high as possible to minimise impact on the community. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits|Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits]]. * The Wikidata Query Service Linked Data Fragment (LDF) endpoint will be decommissioned in February. This endpoint served limited traffic, which was successfully migrated to other data access methods that were better suited to support existing use cases. The hardware used to support the LDF endpoint will be reallocated to support the ongoing backend migration efforts. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415696] * The new Parsoid parser [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser Unification/Updates|continues to be deployed to additional wikis]], improving platform sustainability and making it easier to introduce new reading and editing features. Parsoid is now the default parser on 488 WMF wikis (268 Wikipedias), now covering more than 10% of all Wikipedia page views. * The process and criteria for [[Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Enterprise#Access|requesting exceptional access]] to the high volume feed of the ''Wikimedia Enterprise'' APIs (at no cost for mission-aligned usecases), [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Enterprise#Exceptional access criteria|have now been published]]. This is to provide more thorough and clearer documentation for users. * [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/ Tech Blog], the blog dedicated to the Wikimedia technical community [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2026/02/24/a-tech-blog-diff/ will be migrating] to [[diffblog:|Diff]], the community news and event blog. The migration should be complete in April 2026, after which new posts will be accepted for publishing. Readers will be able to access posts – old and new – on the landing page at https://diff.wikimedia.org/techblog. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.18|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/10|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W10"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 2 mrt 2026 18:51 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30137798 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-11</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W11"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. * Last week, all wikis had 2 hours of read-only time, and extended unavailability for user-scripts and gadgets. This was due to a security incident which has since been resolved. Work is ongoing to prevent re-occurrences. For current information please see the [[m:Steward's noticeboard#Statement on Meta about today's user script security incident|post on the Stewards' noticeboard]] ([[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Product and Technology/Product Safety and Integrity/March 2026 User Script Incident|translations]]). '''Updates for editors''' * Users facing multiple blocks on mobile will now see the reasons for each block separately, instead of a generic message. This helps them understand why they are blocked and what steps they can take to resolve the issue. For example, users affected for using common VPNs (such as [[Special:MyLanguage/Apple iCloud Private Relay|iCloud Private Relay]]) will receive clearer guidance on what they need to do to start editing again. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T357118] * Later this week, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Suggestion Mode|Suggestion Mode]] will become available as a beta feature within the visual editor at all Wikipedias. This feature proactively suggests various types of actions that people can consider taking to improve Wikipedia articles, and learn about related guidelines. The feature is locally configurable, and can also be locally expanded with custom Suggestions. Current settings can be seen at [[Special:EditChecks]] and there are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Suggestion mode#For administrators %E2%80%93 local customization|instructions for how administrators can customize]] the links to point to local guidelines. The feature is connected to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check|Edit check]] which suggests improvements while someone is writing new content. In the future, the Editing team plans to evaluate the feature's impact with newcomers through a controlled experiment. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404600] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where the cursor became misaligned during the use of CodeMirror’s syntax highlighting, which makes wikitext and code easier to read, has now been fixed. This problem specifically affected users who defined a font rule in a custom stylesheet while creating a new topic with DiscussionTools. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418793] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * API rate limiting update: To help ensure [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Responsible Reuse|fair use of infrastructure]], global API rate limits will be applied this week to requests without a compliant User-Agent that originate from outside Toolforge/WMCS and to unauthenticated requests made from web browsers. Higher limits will be applied to identified traffic in April. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits|Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits]]. * The new GraphQL API has been released. The API was developed as a flexible alternative to select features of the Wikidata Query Service (WDQS), to improve developer experience and foster adaptability, and efficient data access. Try it out and [[d:Wikidata:Wikibase GraphQL#Feedback and development|give feedback]]. You can also [https://greatquestion.co/wikimediadeutschland/GraphQLAPI/apply sign up for usability tests]. * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|PTAC Unsupported Tools Working Group]] continued improvements to [[commons:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons#|Video2Commons]] in February, with fixes addressing authentication errors, large-file handling, task queue visibility, and clearer upload behavior. Work is still ongoing in some areas, including changes related to deprecated server-side uploads. Read [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group#February 2026|this update]] to learn more. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.19|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The Article Guidance team invites experienced Wikipedia editors from selected [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance/Pilot wikis and collaborators#Collaborators|pilot wikis]] and interested contributors from other Wikipedias to fill out this questionnaire which is available in [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfmLeVWnxmsCbPoI_UF2jyRcn73WRGWCVPHzerXb4Cz97X_Ag/viewform English], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6rzr4XXQw8r4024fE3geTPFe13M_6w7Mitj-YJi0sOlWTAw/viewform?usp=header Arabic], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdok3-RfB18lcugYTUMGkpwmqG_8p760Wv4dCXitOXOszjUDw/viewform?usp=header Bengali], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfjTfYp4jEo0akA4B1e-Nfg3QZPCudUjhJzHzzDi6AHyAaMGA/viewform?usp=header Japanese], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScteVoI29Aue4xc72dekk-6RYtvmMgQxzMI900UOawrFrSTWg/viewform?usp=header Portuguese], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSetdxnYwL3ub2vqA7awCg5hJZPMIYcDPaiTe12rY9h0GYnVlw/viewform?usp=header Persian], and [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNvfJF-Ot-4pzA4qAN771_0QDJ4Li19YcUsaTgSKW8Nc7U_Q/viewform?usp=header Turkish]. Your answers will help the team customize guidance for less experienced editors and help them learn community policies and practices while creating an article. Learn more [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|on the project page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W11"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 9 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30213008 --> == archive.today == Bij verwijzing naar online bronnen is het vaak nuttig ook een archieflink aan te maken, vooral bij websites die zelf niet als archief zijn bedoeld. Voor dit doel wordt op WikiWoordenboek meestal het Internet Archive (archive.org) gebruikt. Daarnaast gebruiken we soms ook wel het daarvan los staande archive.today of een van zijn mirrorsites (meestal archive.ph). Het gebruik van archive.today en zijn mirrors is [[meta:Archive.today_incident|op Wikimediaprojecten omstreden]] geworden. De eigenaar van archive.today kreeg een ruzie met een blogger en ging er toen toe over om gebruikers van archive.today via wat code ongemerkt ook loze html-oproepen aan het blog te laten sturen, zodat het raadplegen daarvan werd bemoeilijkt. Daarnaast werd ook duidelijk dat hij op archive.today opgeslagen archiefpagina's van een eigen site had aangepast. Voor sommige Wikimediaprojecten waren dit voldoende redenen om helemaal geen gebruik meer te maken van archive.today, andere projecten kiezen voor minder vergaande beperkingen. De WMF laat deze kwestie voor dit moment over aan de afzonderlijke projecten, maar sluit niet uit dit in de toekomst zal veranderen. Op WikiWoordenboek is de situatie vrij overzichtelijk, omdat we hier vooral archive.org gebruiken: er zijn vele duizenden pagina's die naar die site verwijzen en nog geen 130 waar archive.today is gebruikt. Daarbij zitten echter wel een aantal pagina's die zich niet via archive.org laten archiveren. Soms lijkt dit een technische kwestie, maar er wordt in sommige gevallen ook expliciet aangegeven dat een site niet via archive.org wil worden vastgelegd omdat zo'n archiefpagina kan worden gebruikt om kunstmatige intelligentie te trainen. In dat soort gevallen lijken de voordelen van archivering via archive.today mij groter dat het weglaten van een archieflink of van de hele verwijzing. Mijn pragmatische voorstel is daarom als volgt: # We spreken af om in principe archive.org voor archieflinks te gebruiken. Indien mogelijk wordt een bestaande archieflink naar archive.today vervangen door een equivalent op archive.org. # In gevallen waarin een onvervangbare bron of vindplaats zich niet op die manier laat archiveren, wordt archive.'''ph''' gebruikt. Op die manier houden we goed overzicht van het gebruik van archive.today. Voor de bestaande links heb ik dit klusje al uitgevoerd. De keus voor deze mirror is ingegeven doordat dit het minste werk opleverde. # We maken geen gebruik meer van de overige sites van archive.today en voegen die toe aan de lijst van sites waar niet naartoe kan worden gelinkt. # We verzoeken de WMF uitdrukkelijk om bij het doorvoeren van meer ingrijpende maatregelen eerst een voorziening te treffen voor pagina's die niet op archive.org kunnen worden bewaard. Mij staat voor ogen om de komende 4 weken de reacties af te wachten en afhankelijk daarvan 3. en 4. uit te voeren. Met het oog op dat laatste punt ben ik wel al bezig met de vervangingen onder 1. omdat er zo een beter beeld ontstaat van de sites waar het om gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 13:11 (CET) :Nee, de kwestie is niet slechts een ruzie. De blog heeft door middel van doxing geprobeerd de eigenaar van archive.today onder druk te zetten. Het raadplegen van de blog is niet bemoeilijkt en is niet uitgevallen. :Voor veel Nederlandstalige bronnen is archive.today de enige manier om te archiveren. Ook de Internet Archive heeft regelmatig last van storingen. Ik pleit daarom voor diversificatie in plaats van minimalisatie. In andere woorden, dat bronnen in zo veel mogelijk archiefsites worden opgeslagen. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 13:02 (CET) == Save the Date: zaterdag 20 juni 2026 Verjaardagsfeest Wikipedia 25 jaar! == Op 19 juni bestaat de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia precies 25 jaar en dat willen we vieren! Daarom nodigen we je van harte uit voor het verjaardagsfeest op zaterdag 20 juni van 12:00 tot 17:00 uur bij restaurant LE:EN in Utrecht. Inschrijving is geopend! Op [[wmnl:Verjaardagsfeest_Wikipedia_25_jaar!|deze pagina]] vind je meer informatie alsmede het inschrijfformulier. We hopen dat je erbij kunt zijn en kijken ernaar uit je te mogen verwelkomen. Tot dan! Met vriendelijke groet, Team Wikimedia Nederland [[Gebruiker:JansenKirsten|JansenKirsten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JansenKirsten|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:53 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-12</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W12"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature, also known as [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror 6]], has been used for wikitext syntax highlighting since November 2024. It will be promoted out of beta by May 2026 in order to bring improvements and new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Features|features]] to all editors who use the standard syntax highlighter. If you have any questions or concerns about promoting the feature out of beta, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|please share]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259059] * Some changes to local user groups are performed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and logged there only. Now, interwiki rights changes will be logged both on Meta-Wiki and the wiki of the target user to make it easier to access a full record of user's rights changes on a local wiki. Past log entries for such changes will be backfilled in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T6055] * On wikis using [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Flagged Revisions|Flagged Revisions]], the number of pending changes shown on [[{{#Special:PendingChanges}}]] previously counted pages which were no longer pending review, because they have been removed from the system without being reviewed, e.g. due to being deleted, moved to a different namespace, or due to wiki configuration changes. The count will be correct now. On some wikis the number shown will be much smaller than before. There should be no change to the list of pages itself. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413016] * Wikifunctions composition language has been rewritten, resulting in a new version of the language. This change aims to increase service stability by reducing the orchestrator's memory consumption. This rewrite also enables substantial latency reduction, code simplification, and better abstractions, which will open the door to later feature additions. Read more about [[f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2026-03-11|the changes]]. * Users can now sort search results alphabetically by page title. The update gives an additional option to finding pages more easily and quickly. Previously, results could be sorted by Edit date, Creation date, or Relevance. To use the new option, open 'Advanced Search' on the search results page and select 'Alphabetically' under 'Sorting Order'. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403775] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons from importing files from Flickr has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419263] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new special page, [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}]], has been created to list transcluded pages that are flagged as containing lint errors to help users discover them easily. The list is sorted by the number of transclusions with errors. For example: [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}/night-mode-unaware-background-color]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170874] * Users of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature have been using [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]] for syntax highlighting when editing JavaScript, CSS, JSON, Vue and Lua content pages, for some time now. Along with promoting CodeMirror 6 out of beta, the plan is to replace CodeEditor as the standard editor for these content models by May 2026. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|Feedback or concerns are welcome]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419332] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] JavaScript modules will soon be upgraded to CodeMirror 6. Leading up to the upgrade, loading the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror</code> or <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.lib</code> modules from gadgets and user scripts was deprecated in July 2025. The use of the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.switch</code> hook was also deprecated in March 2025. Contributors can now make their scripts or gadgets compatible with CodeMirror 6. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror#Gadgets and user scripts|migration guide]] for more information. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373720] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is expanding coverage of REST API module definitions to include [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/API:REST API/Extensions|extension APIs]]. REST API modules are groups of related endpoints that can be independently managed and versioned. Modules now exist for [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414470 GrowthExperiments] and [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419053 Wikifunctions] APIs. As we migrate extension APIs to this structure, documentation will move out of the main MediaWiki OpenAPI spec and REST Sandbox view, and will instead be accessible via module-specific options in the dropdown on the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox] (i.e., [[{{#Special:RestSandbox}}]], available on all wiki projects). * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto|Scribunto]] extension provides different pieces of information about the wiki where the module is being used via the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual|mw.site]] library. Starting last week, the library also provides a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.site.wikiId|way]] of accessing the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Wiki ID|wiki ID]] that can be used to facilitate cross-wiki module maintenance. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146616] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.20|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Coolest Tool Award|2026 Coolest Tool Award]] celebrating outstanding community tools, is now open for nominations! Nominate your favorite tool using the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/435684?lang=en nomination survey] form by 23 March 2026. For more information on privacy and data handling, please see the [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Coolest_Tool_Award_2026_Survey_Privacy_Statement|survey privacy statement]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W12"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16 mrt 2026 20:35 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30260505 --> == Beursaanvraag Wikimania 2026 geopend == Van 21 - 25 juli vindt [[wikimania:2026:Wikimania|Wikimania]] in Parijs plaats, de jaarlijkse wereldwijde conferentie voor iedereen die betrokken is bij een of meerdere Wikimedia-projecten. Wikimedia Nederland stelt een beperkt aantal beurzen beschikbaar voor reis- en verblijfskosten voor het hoofdprogramma van 23–25 juli. Je kunt tot uiterlijk zondag 12 april een beurs aanvragen. [[wmnl:Wikimania_2026|Meer informatie over de beursaanvraag vind je op de verenigingswiki]]. Wikimedia Nederland [[Gebruiker:JansenKirsten|JansenKirsten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JansenKirsten|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:12 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-13</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W13"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikimedia site users can now log in without a password using passkeys. This is a secure method supported by fingerprint, facial recognition, or PIN. With this change, all users who opt for passwordless login will find it easier, faster, and more secure to log in to their accounts using any device. The new passkey login option currently appears as an autofill suggestion in the username field. An additional [[phab:T417120|"Log in with passkey" button]] will soon be available for users who have already registered a passkey. This update will improve security and user experience. The [[c:File:Passwordless_login_screencast.webm|screen recording]] demonstrates the passwordless login process step by step. * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia site users can now export their notifications older than 5 years using a [[toolforge:echo-chamber|new Toolforge tool]]. This will ensure that users retain their important notifications and avoid them being lost based on the planned change to delete notifications older than 5 years, as previously announced. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * Wikipedia editors in Indonesian, Thai, Turkish, and Simple English now have access to Special:PersonalDashboard. This is an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Moderator Tools/Dashboard|early version of an experience]] that introduces newer editors to patrolling workflows, making it easier for them to move from making edits to participating in more advanced moderation work on their project. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402647] * The [[Special:Block]] now has two minor interface changes. Administrators can now easily perform indefinite blocks through a dedicated radio button in the expiry section. Also, choosing an indefinite expiry provides a different set of common reasons to select from, which can be changed at: [[MediaWiki:Ipbreason-indef-dropdown]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401823] * Mobile editors [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments#Logged-out|at several wikis]] can now see an improved logged-out edit warning, thanks to the recent updates from the Growth team. These changes released last week are part of ongoing efforts and tests to enhance [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments|account creation experience on mobile]] and then increase participation. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408484] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:36}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:36|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented mobile web users from seeing the block information when affected by multiple blocks has been fixed. They can now see messages of all the blocks currently affecting them when they access Wikipedia. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Images built using Toolforge will soon get the upgraded buildpacks version, bringing support for newer language versions and other upstream improvements and fixes. If you use Toolforge Build Service, review the recent [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud-announce@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EMYTA32EV2V5SQ2JIEOD2CL66YFIZEKV/ cloud-announce email] and update your build configuration as necessary to ensure your tools are compatible. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Toolforge/Building_container_images&oldid=2392097#Buildpack_environment_upgrade_process][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380127] * The [https://api.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page API Portal] documentation wiki will shut down in June 2026. API keys created on the API Portal will continue to work normally. api.wikimedia.org endpoints will be deprecated gradually starting in July 2026. Documentation on the API Portal is moving to [[mw:Wikimedia APIs|mediawiki.org]]. Learn more on the [[wikitech:API Portal/Deprecation|project page]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes|WMDE Technical Wishes]] is considering improvements to [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names|automatically generated reference names in VisualEditor]]. Please check out the [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Proposed solutions|proposed solutions]] and participate in the [[m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Request for comment|request for comment]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W13"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23 mrt 2026 17:51 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30268305 --> == Kandidatuur Latijn als moderator == [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] heeft zich 26 maart {{WikiW|Aanmelding_moderators#Latijn|kandidaat gesteld als moderator}}, zonder hiervan in De Kroeg melding te maken. Het is aannemelijk dat Latijn niet wist dat dit goed gebruik is, vandaar dat ik dat nu maar doe. Het is in mijn ogen wel een indicatie dat er gewoon nog onvoldoende ervaring aanwezig is om moderator te worden. Een echte contra-indicatie is in mijn ogen het volgende: op 29 maart 16:46 is er een nieuw account [[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] aangemaakt. Dit account heeft in de hele Wikimediawereld precies twee bewerkingen gedaan: om 16:47 [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Latijn&diff=prev&oldid=5503673 deze bewerking] op de overlegpagina van Latijn, die om 17:38 door Latijn ongedaan is gemaakt, gevolgd door [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding_moderators&diff=prev&oldid=5503753 een stem voor Latijn als moderator] om 18:17, die door mij inmiddels om een voor de hand liggende reden ongeldig is verklaard. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:20 (CEST) :is het nu geldig [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:22 (CEST) 123xttgo1318mqyh6pz963l88hvbpcc 5504009 5504003 2026-03-30T13:57:53Z Latijn 65243 /* Kandidatuur Latijn als moderator */ Reactie 5504009 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>__NEWSECTIONLINK__ __NOINDEX__ {{De_kroeg}}</noinclude> <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Per kalenderjaar:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2004|2004]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2005|2005]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2006|2006]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2007|2007]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2008|2008]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2009|2009]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2010|2010]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011|2011]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2012|2012]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2013|2013]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2014|2014]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2015|2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • <!-- [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2026|2026]] • --> [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|heden]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Werklijst|werklijst]] </div><section end=nav/> == Weergave actuele Franse spellingvarianten == De weerstand tegen de spellingverbetering van 1990 heeft geleid tot een situatie waarin zowel de "traditionele spelling" ''(orthographe traditionnelle)'' als de "verbeterde spelling" ''(orthographe rectifiée)'' worden gebruikt en officiële status hebben. In dit geval is onze gebruikelijke werkwijze met {{Tl|oudeschrijfwijze}} minder passend, temeer omdat vooral in Frankrijk zelf de traditionele spelling nog heel gangbaar is. In het verleden zijn hiervoor de sjablonen "fr-orth-trad" en "fr-orth-rect" aangemaakt, maar deze sjablonen werken niet zo prettig in combinatie met sjablonen die een verbogen of vervoegde vorm beschrijven. Het is typografisch ook wat verwarrend om informatie over schrijfwijzen niet onder dat kopje, maar op de trefwoordregel te geven, die eigenlijk zelf als een kopje is bedoeld. [[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Overleg met Jochenknabben]] die het afgelopen jaar vele duizenden Franse lemma's heeft toegevoegd, heeft een oplossing opgeleverd in de vorm van twee nieuwe sjablonen: {{Tl|-writ-fra-t-}} en {{Tl|-writ-fra-r-}}. Deze zorgen voor een consistente presentatie van informatie over deze spellingvarianten, ook op lemma's met verbogen en vervoegde vormen. Voorbeelden zijn te zien op {{Q|île|fra}}, {{Q|îles|fra}}, {{Q|ile|fra}}, {{Q|iles|fra}}. Dit levert ook een [[:Categorie:Verbeterde spelling Frans van 1990|categorie van woorden uit de verbeterde spelling]] op. Om te zien hoe het in de praktijk werkt, kunnen deze sjablonen op nieuwe lemma's worden gebruikt. Afhankelijk van de reacties hier staat mij voor ogen om over 4 weken om op bestaande pagina's de oude sjablonen door de nieuwe te vervangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:50 (CEST) :{{done}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2025 15:39 (CET) ::In aanvulling op het bovenstaande is ook nog het sjabloon {{Tl|fr-orth}} aangemaakt, dat gebruikt kan worden in de gevallen dat categorisering en het automatisch ingevoegde kopje ongewenst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:34 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-40</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W40"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/40|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * A major software upgrade has been made to [[phab:|Phabricator]]. The update introduces performance improvements, a refreshed search interface, enhancements to Maniphest task search, updates to user profile pages and project workboards, new Herald automation features, as well as general text input, mobile experience improvements and more. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/post/view/321/iterative_improvements_september_2025/] '''Updates for editors''' * The Community Tech team will release the new Community Wishlist extension on October 1, that will improve the way wishes will be submitted. The new extension will allow users to add tags to their wishes to better categorise them, and (in a future iteration) to filter them by status, tags and focus areas. It will also be possible to support individual wishes again, as requested by the community in many instances. The old system will be retired. There will be a brief period of downtime while the extension is deployed and wishes are migrated to the new system. You can read more about this [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/Updates|in the latest update]] or you can consult the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CommunityRequests|current documentation on MediaWiki]]. * As announced [[diffblog:2025/09/02/better-detecting-bots-and-replacing-our-captcha/|on Diff blog]], the production trial of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Anti-abuse signals/hCaptcha|hCaptcha]] service for bot detection has begun. The trial is currently using hCaptcha to protect account creation on Chinese, Persian, Portuguese, Indonesian, Japanese, and Turkish Wikipedias, where it will replace our existing [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:ConfirmEdit#FancyCaptcha|CAPTCHA]] (FancyCaptcha). The goal with the trial is to better block bots while also improving usability and accessibility for users who encounter CAPTCHA challenges. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents]] extension has been [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|deployed]] to Wikimedia Commons. The extension makes it easier to organize and participate in collaborative activities, like edit-a-thons and WikiProjects, on the wikis. On Commons, anyone who is a registered user can use it as an event participant. To use it as an organizer, someone needs to have the [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Event organizers|event organizer right]]. * [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing|Sub-referencing]], a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to German Wikipedia. You can [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#test|test the feature]] on testwiki or [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmcloud.org/wiki/Sub-referencing on betawiki] as well. Please share your thoughts on [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Templates used in sub-references|using templates in sub-references]] or [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Pilot wikis|volunteer to become a pilot wiki]]. * On wikis using the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Mentorship|Mentorship]] system, communities can now opt experienced editors out of Mentorship through [[{{#special:CommunityConfiguration/Mentorship}}]]. Within this setting, communities may define thresholds, based on edit count and account age, to decide when an editor is considered experienced enough to no longer receive Mentorship. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403563] * The Editing Team and the Machine Learning Team are working on a new check for newcomers: [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Tone Check|Tone check]]. Using a prediction model, this check will encourage editors to improve the tone of their edits, using artificial intelligence. We invite volunteers to review the first version of the Tone language model for the following languages: Arabic, Czech, German, Hebrew, Indonesian, Dutch, Polish, Russian, Turkish, Chinese, Farsi, Italian, Norwegian, Romanian and Latvian. Users from these wikis interested in reviewing this model are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit_check/Tone_Check/Model_evaluation|invited to sign up at MediaWiki.org]]. The deadline to sign up is on October 3, which will be the start date of the test. * The rollout of [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Manage blocks|multiblocks]] had the side effect that non-active block logs may have been shown on {{#special:Contributions}} and on blocked users' user and user_talk pages. This issue will be fully resolved in a few days. As part of the fix, [{{fullurl:Special:Allmessages|prefix=sp-contributions-blocked-notice}} messages prefixed with <code>sp-contributions-blocked-notice</code>] will be removed and replaced with [{{fullurl:Special:Allmessages|prefix=blocked-notice-logextract}} those prefixed with <code>blocked-notice-logextract</code>] in a few weeks. Please help translate the new messages and update any local overrides if needed. * There was a bug with links added using visual editor if they included characters such as <code dir=ltr><nowiki>[ ] |</nowiki></code> after the fragment identifier (<code><nowiki>#</nowiki></code>). They were not encoded properly creating an incorrect link. This has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404823] * One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote/en}} in [[d:Q9237|Malay]] ([[q:ms:|<code>q:ms:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404698] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Anti-abuse signals/User Info|User Info Card]] now displays currently active global lock/blocks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401128] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Later this week, editors using Lua modules will be able to use the <code>[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.title.newBatch|mw.title.newBatch]]</code> function to look up the existence of up to 25 pages at once, in a way that only increases the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parser functions#Expensive parser functions|expensive function]] count once. * A new [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|Unsupported Tools Working Group]] has been formed as part of ongoing efforts to collectively determine technical work priorities, similar to the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product & Technology Advisory Council]] (PTAC). The working group will help prioritize and review requests for support of unmaintained extensions, gadgets, bots, and tools. For the first cycle, the group will be prioritizing an unsupported Wikimedia Commons tool. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/40|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W40"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 29 sep 2025 22:53 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29355230 --> == Upcoming Dark Mode user interface rollout for anonymous Wikimedia sites users == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> {{int:Hello}} Wikimedians, Apologies if this message is not in your language. {{int:please-translate}}. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web|Reader Experience team]] will launch the Dark mode feature for anonymous users on all Wikimedia sites, including yours, on October 29, 2025. [[:en:Special:MyLanguage/Light-on-dark color scheme|Dark mode]] is an option that allows users to view pages in light-coloured text, and icons on a dark background. Once it is available for anonymous users, they can enable it when using various devices. More information on ways to enable it can be found on [[:en:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia:Dark mode#Options for anyone|this page]]. Given many pages are still not compatible with dark mode this will be an opt-in feature and not automatically apply to pages. Dark mode requires modifications to content pages and templates, and since our initial launch [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/07/17/dark-modes-bright-future-how-dark-mode-will-transform-wikipedias-accessibility/ in July 2024], we have been working with communities and helping them prepare for dark mode. Before the rollout, it is essential that template authors and technical contributors test dark mode and read [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|this page]] to learn how to make pages Dark mode-ready and address any compatibility issues found in templates. We will fix most color compatibility issues only on the most-viewed pages on projects with over 5 million monthly page views. Technical contributors with an account should opt into dark mode currently using preferences or settings and test pages and seek help before the release to ensure everything complies before the enablement. If you have any questions or need help, please [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading#|contact the Reader Experience team]] for support. Thank you! </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:UOzurumba (WMF)|UOzurumba (WMF)]]</bdi> 30 sep 2025 04:08 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:UOzurumba_(WMF)/sandbox_Dark_mode_deployment_mass_message_list_(October_2025)&oldid=29358561 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-41</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W41"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/41|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#paste|Paste Check]] is a new Edit Check feature to help avoid and fight copyright violations. When editors paste text into an article, Paste Check prompts them to confirm the origin and licensing of the content. Starting Wednesday, 8 October, [[phab:T403680|22 wikis will test Paste Check]]. Paste Check will help new volunteers understand and follow the policies and guidelines necessary to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia projects. '''Updates for editors''' * Mobile devices will receive mobile articles directly on the standard domain (like <code>en.wikipedia.org</code>), instead of via a redirect to an "m" domain (like <code>en.m.wikipedia.org</code>). This change improves performance. This week it will be enabled on Wikipedias. The existing mobile URLs and the "Desktop view" opt-out remain available. [[mw:Requests for comment/Mobile domain sunsetting/2025 Announcement|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998] * New [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:CirrusSearch#creationdate and lasteditdate|date filters]], <code dir=ltr>creationdate:</code> and <code dir=ltr>lasteditdate:</code>, are now available in the wiki search engine. This allows users to filter search results by a page's first or last revision date. The filters support comparison operators (e.g. <code dir=ltr>>2024</code>) and relative dates (e.g. <code dir=ltr>today-1d</code>), making it easier to find recently updated content or pages within specific age ranges. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403593] * [[f:|Wikifunctions]] now supports rich text in embedded calls across the 150 wikis where it's enabled. To showcase this, the team created a [[f:Z26333|Latin declination table]] that Wiktionary editors can use to automatically generate noun forms, producing clear, formatted results — see an [[f:Wikifunctions:Embedded function calls/Wiktionary tables demonstration|example output]]. If you need any help or have any feedback, please [[f:Wikifunctions:Project chat|contact the Wikifunctions Team]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T397402] * An edit link will now appear inside the categories box on article pages for logged in users, which will directly launch the VisualEditor category dialog. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T291691] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:34}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:34|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, there was a problem downloading pdf files last week and that has been resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405957] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The field <code dir=ltr>rev_sha1</code> in the revision database table is being removed in favor of <code dir=ltr>content_sha1</code> in the content database table. See [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/2D2M3SP4WHR6BXXKTZ2PBLZQYR3EGQVR/ the announcement] for more information. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web|Reader Experience team]] will roll out [[w:en:Light-on-dark color scheme|Dark Mode]] user interface on all Wikimedia sites on October 29, 2025. All anonymous users of Wikimedia sites will have the option to activate a color scheme that features light-colored text on a dark background. This is designed to provide a more comfortable reading experience, especially in low-light situations. Template authors and technical contributors are encouraged to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|learn how to make pages ready for Dark mode]] and address any compatibility issues found in templates in their wiki before the enablement. Please contact the Web team for questions or any support on [[mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading#|this talk page]] before the enablement. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395628] * Starting on Monday, October 6, API endpoints under the <code>rest.php</code> path will be rerouted through a new internal API Gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the [[phab:tag/serviceops/|Service Ops team board]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T400130] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.22|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/41|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W41"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 6 okt 2025 19:23 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29400897 --> == haakje openen i haakjesluiten toegevoegd bij het inhoudssjabloon van een lemma na editten en opslaan == er wordt momenteel <nowiki><i></nowiki> toegevoegd aan de ingangen van het inhoud van een lemma als je een artikel edit en weer opslaat. Dit is niet te zien als je artikel aan het editten bent en ook als je niets veranderd gebeurt dat zie bijvoorbeeld het lemma breder. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:30 (CEST) probleem lijkt te zijn opgelost. :Dit probleem werd veroorzaakt door een foutje in een update van de Wikimediaprogrammatuur. Het is ondertussen opgelost. Zie [[Overleg_gebruiker:MarcoSwart#schuin_gedrukte_inhoud|dit overleg]] voor meer details. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 12:47 (CEST) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Have your say: vote for the 2025 Board of Trustees</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> Hello all, The voting period for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|2025 Board of Trustees election]] is now open. Candidates are running for two (2) seats on the Board. To check your voter eligibility, please visit the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Voter eligibility guidelines|voter eligibility page]]. Learn more about them by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidates|reading their application statements and watch their candidacy videos]]. When you are ready, go to the [[m:Special:SecurePoll/vote/405|SecurePoll voting page to vote]]. '''The vote is open from October 8 at 00:00 UTC to October 22 at 23:59 UTC.''' Best regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi<br />Chair, Elections Committee<section end="announcement-content" /> </div> [[Gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 06:49 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:RamzyM (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29360896 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-42</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W42"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/42|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Last week, improvements to account security and two-factor authentication (2FA) features were enabled across all wikis. These changes include user interface improvements for [https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:AccountSecurity Special:AccountSecurity], the support of multiple 2FA methods via authenticator apps and portable security keys (previously users could only enable one method), and a new Recovery Codes module which facilitates fewer account lockouts due to lost two-factor apps and devices. As part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] project, work is continuing through the rest of 2025 on further user experience improvements, and support for passkeys as an alternate second factor. '''Updates for editors''' * Another part of the Account security project is making 2FA generally available to all users. Along with editors with advanced privileges, such as administrators and bureaucrats, 40% of editors now have access to 2FA. You can check if you have access at [https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:AccountSecurity Special:AccountSecurity]. Instructions for activation are on the linked page. The plan is to continue increasing availability if it is determined that the user support capabilities are able to support global usage. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T400579] * This week, users at wikis where talk page [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability|Usability Improvements]] are already available by default (everywhere ''except'' the 12 wikis listed in [[phab:T379264|T379264]]) will gain the ability to Thank a comment directly from the talk page it appears on. Before this change, Thanking could only be done by visiting the revision history of the talk page. You can [[diffblog:2025/10/13/revolutionizing-gratitude-a-new-era-of-thanking-comments/|learn more about this change]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366095] * Users who have not [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal-email|verified their email address]] will soon be receiving monthly Notification reminders to do so. This is because users who have verified their email can more easily recover their account. These reminders will not be sent if the user is inactive or removes the unverified email from their account. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Email_confirmation][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58074] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a fix was made for an occasional error with saving translated paragraphs in the Content Translation tool, and the related error messages are now easier to see. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376531] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The Unsupported Tools Working Group has chosen [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2Commons]] as the first tool for its pilot cycle. The group will explore ways to improve and sustain the tool over the coming months. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|Learn more on Meta]]. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.23|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/42|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W42"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 13 okt 2025 20:59 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29434481 --> == Report concerning User:~2025-28143-59 == [[Special:Contributions/~2025-28143-59|~2025-28143-59]] &ndash; Vandalism. Long-term abuse <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small> --[[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19|Nvdtn19]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Nvdtn19|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 14:05 (CEST) :Deze melding lijkt te berusten op een vergissing door een vandalismebestrijder die geen Nederlands spreekt. Ik heb hem hierop aangesproken via zijn gebruikerspagina. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 15:47 (CEST) == Help ons een naam te kiezen voor Abstract Wikipedia == <section begin="function1"/> {{int:Hello}}! Help ons alsjeblieft een naam te kiezen voor het nieuwe wikiproject Abstract Wikipedia. Dit project wordt een wiki waar gebruikers functies van [[:f:|Wikifuncties]] en gegevens van Wikidata kunnen combineren om zinnen te genereren in alle ondersteunde talen. Deze zinnen kunnen vervolgens worden gebruikt door elke Wikipedia (of elders). Er zullen twee stemrondes zijn, elk gevolgd door een juridische beoordeling van de kandidaten. De stemmingen beginnen op 20 oktober en 17 november 2025. Ons doel is om medio december 2025 een definitieve projectnaam te kiezen. Als je wilt deelnemen, '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|klik dan hier voor meer informatie en stem nu]]''' op meta-wiki. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}} <section end="function1"/> -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 20 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29432175 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-43</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W43"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/43|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * To optimize how user data is stored in our databases, the saved preferences of users who haven't logged in for over five years and have fewer than 100 edits will be cleared. When those users return, default settings will apply. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406724] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, there was a broken link from the GlobalContributions interface message to the XTools GlobalContributions page which has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406415] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The work to reroute all traffic to API endpoints under the <code dir=ltr><nowiki>rest.php</nowiki></code> route through a common API gateway is now complete. If any issues are observed, please file a phabricator ticket to the [[phab:tag/serviceops/|Service Ops team board]]. * Edits to Wikidata references or qualifiers will now be shown in RecentChanges and Watchlist entries on other wikis less often, reducing unnecessary notifications. This will reduce the overall quantity of 'noisy' entries. Wikidata's own pages remain unchanged. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401290] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.24|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/43|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W43"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 20 okt 2025 21:36 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29478670 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-44</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W44"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The Wikipedia iOS app has launched an A/B/C test of improvements made to the tabbed browsing feature for select regions and languages. The test, named “More dynamic tabs”, explores new tab experiences and includes “Did you know” and “Because you read” article recommendations. You can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/Tabbed Browsing (Tabs)/New Tab Experience and Recommendations Experiment|read more on the project page]]. * Autoconfirmed users on [[git:operations/mediawiki-config/+/a2d2aaab9ace84280dd2f4c70a33bb69cd73850f/dblists/small.dblist|small]] and [[git:operations/mediawiki-config/+/a2d2aaab9ace84280dd2f4c70a33bb69cd73850f/dblists/medium.dblist|medium wikis]] with the CampaignEvents extension can now use [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event Center/Registration|Event Registration]] without the Event Organizer right. This feature lets organizers enable registration, manage participants, and lets users register with one click instead of signing event pages. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue of flashing colors when holding or pressing the arrow keys under the dark mode settings in Vector 2022 has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402285] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The CampaignEvents extension will be deployed to all remaining wikis during the week of 17 November 2025. The extension currently includes three features: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation List. For this rollout, Invitation List will not be enabled on Wikifunctions and MediaWiki unless requested by those communities. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|Visit the deployment page to learn more]]. * The SwaggerUI-based REST sandbox experience is now live on all wiki projects. The sandbox can be accessed through the [[{{#special:RestSandbox}}]] page. Please report any issues to the MediaWiki Interfaces team board, or join the discussion on the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Interfaces Team/Feature Feedback/REST Sandbox|project launch]] page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/6931/] * Transform endpoints with a trailing slash path in the MediaWiki REST API are now marked as deprecated. They will remain functional during this time, but removal is expected by the end of January 2026. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found and tested using the [https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?api=mw-extra&title=Special%3ARestSandbox REST Sandbox]. See the [[mw:API/Deprecation|MediaWiki REST API Deprecation]] page for more detailed information about the API deprecation policies and procedures. * A dedicated [[mw:API:REST API/Changelog|changelog now exists for the MediaWiki REST API]]. The changelog provides an overview of these changes, making it easier for developers to keep track of improvements and iterations. Announcements will also continue to flow through the standard communication channels, including Tech News and email distribution lists, but can now be more easily referenced from a central location. If you have feedback about the style, structure, or content of this changelog, please [[mw:API talk:REST API/Changelog|join the discussion]]. * Administrators can delete the tracking category which was previously added by the JsonConfig extension, as it is no longer used. See the categories linked from [[d:Q130635582#sitelinks-wikipedia|Q130635582]]. It is OK if there are still pages listed in the category as that is just a caching issue, and they will be automatically cleared out the next time each page is edited. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T378352] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.25|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W44"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 27 okt 2025 20:31 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29513638 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers. Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages: * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Affiliations Committee|Affiliations Committee (AffCom)]] * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Ombuds commission|Ombuds commission (OC)]] * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Community Resilience and Sustainability/Trust and Safety/Case Review Committee|Case Review Committee (CRC)]] Applications for the committees open on October 30, 2025. Applications for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on December 11, 2025. Learn how to apply by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Committee appointments|visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki]]. Post to the talk page or email cst[[File:At sign.svg|16x16px|link=|(_AT_)]]wikimedia.org with any questions you may have. For the Committee Support team, <section end="announcement-content" /> </div> -[[m:User:MKaur (WMF)| MKaur (WMF)]] 30 okt 2025 15:14 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:MKaur (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29517125 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-45</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W45"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/45|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Administrators will now find that [[{{#special:MergeHistory}}]] is now significantly more flexible about what it can merge. It can now merge sections taken from the middle of the history of the source (rather than only the start) and insert revisions anywhere in the history of the destination page (rather than only the start). [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T382958] * For users with "{{int:discussiontools-preference-autotopicsub}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|enabled in their preferences]], starting a new topic or adding a reply to an existing topic will now subscribe them to replies to that topic. Previously, this would only happen if the DiscussionTools "{{int:Skin-action-addsection}}" or "{{int:Discussiontools-replybutton}}" widgets were used. When DiscussionTools was originally launched existing accounts were not opted in to automatic topic subscriptions, so this change should primarily affect newer accounts and users who have deliberately changed their preferences since that time. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290778] * Scribunto modules can now be used to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#SVG library|generate SVG images]]. This can be used to build charts, graphics and other visualizations dynamically through Lua, reducing the need to compose them externally and upload them as files. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405861] * Wikimedia sites now provide all anonymous users with the option to enable a dark mode color scheme, featuring light-colored text on a dark background. This enhancement aims to deliver a more enjoyable reading experience, especially in dimly lit environments. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395628] * Users with large watchlists have long faced timeouts when editing [[Special:EditWatchlist|Special:EditWatchlist]]. The page now loads entries in smaller sections instead of all at once due to a paging update, allowing everyone to edit their watchlists smoothly. As part of the database update, sorting by expiry has been removed because it was over 100× slower than sorting by title. A [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/W454 community wish] has been created to explore alternative ways to restore sort-by-expiry. If this feature is important to you, please support the wish! [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41510] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the fixing of the persisting highlighting when using VisualEditor find and replace during a query. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T407318] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Since 2019 the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia URL Shortener|Wikimedia URL Shortener]] at https://w.wiki is available for all Wikimedia wikis to create short links to articles, permalinks, diffs, etc. It is available in the sidebar as "Get shortened URL". There are 30 wikis that also install an older "ShortUrl" extension. The old extension will soon be removed. This means <code>/s/</code> URLs will not be advertised under article titles via HTML <code dir=ltr>class="title-shortlink"</code>. The <code>/s/</code> URLs will keep working. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107188] * On Thursday, October 30, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Interfaces Team|MediaWiki Interfaces]] and [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Site Reliability Engineering|SRE Service Operations]] teams began rerouting Action API traffic through a common API gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/serviceops/ Service Ops team] board. * MediaWiki Train deployments will pause for the final two weeks of 2025: 22 December and 29 December. Backport windows will also pause between Monday, 22 December 2025 and Thursday, 2 January 2026. A backport window is a scheduled time to add things like bug fixes and configuration changes. There are seven deployment trains remaining for 2025. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/SMWTEAES4SDLDUSK4HMWNBSKNCXZAWYN/] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.26|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * In 2025, the Wikimedia Foundation reported that AI systems and search engines increasingly use Wikipedia content without driving users to the site, contributing to an 8% drop in human pageviews compared to 2024. After detecting bots disguised as humans, Wikimedia updated its traffic data to reflect this shift. Read more about current user trends on Wikipedia in [[diffblog:2025/10/17/new-user-trends-on-wikipedia/|a Diff blog post]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/45|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W45"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 3 nov 2025 20:34 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29552512 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-46</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W46"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/46|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' [[File:Talk pages default look (April 2023).jpg|thumb|alt=Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages|Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.]] * Starting November 12, users will see a change in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Feature summary#Usability improvements|appearance of talk pages]] on [[Phab:T379264|some Wikipedias]]. Almost [[phab:T392121|all wikis]] have received this design change; [[phab:T409297|English Wikipedia]] will get these changes later. You can read more [[diffblog:2024/05/02/making-talk-pages-better-for-everyone/|on ''Diff'']]. Users can opt out of these changes [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|in their user preferences]] in "{{int:discussiontools-preference-visualenhancements}}". [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T379264] * MediaWiki can now display a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Protection indicators|page indicator]] automatically while a page is protected. This feature is disabled by default. It can be enabled by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Requesting wiki configuration changes|community request]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12347] * Using the "{{int:showpreview}}" or "{{int:showdiff}}" buttons in the wikitext editor will now carry over certain URL parameters like '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parameters to index.php#useskin|useskin]]', '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parameters to index.php#uselang|uselang]]' and '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Section#Editing sections|section]]'. This update also fixes an issue where, if the browser crashed while previewing an edit to a single section, saving this edit could overwrite the entire page with just that section’s content. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62744][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24029][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155097] * Wikivoyage wikis can use [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Kartographer#Markers and counters|colored map markers in the article text]]. The text of these markers will now be shown in contrasting black or white color, instead of always being white. Local workarounds for the problem can be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T369454] * The Activity tab in the Wikipedia Android app is now available for all users. The new tab offers personalized insights into reading, editing, and donation activity, while simplifying navigation and making app use more engaging. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/Activity_Tab_Experiment] * The Reader Growth team is launching an experiment called "Image browsing" to test how to make it easier for readers to browse and discover images on Wikipedia articles. This experiment, a mobile-only A/B test, will go live on English Wikipedia in the week of November 17 and will run for four weeks, affecting 0.05% of users on English wiki. The test launched on November 3 on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese wikis, affecting up to 10% of users on those wikis. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Reader_Growth/WE3.1.3_Image_Browsing] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:27}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:27|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example the inability to lock accounts on mobile sites has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256185] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[wikitech:Help talk:Toolforge/Toolforge standards committee#November 2025 committee nominations|Nominations are open on Wikitech]] for new [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Toolforge standards committee|Toolforge standards committee]] members. The committee oversees the Toolforge [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Right to fork policy|Right to fork policy]] and [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Abandoned tool policy|Abandoned tool policy]] among other duties. Nominations will remain open through 2025-11-28. * The [[w:JSON Web Token#Standard fields|JWT issuer field]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/For Developers#OAuth 2|OAuth 2 access tokens]] for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|SUL wikis]] has been changed to <code><nowiki>https://meta.wikimedia.org</nowiki></code>. Old access tokens will still work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399199] * The [[w:JSON Web Token#Standard fields|JWT subject field]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/For Developers#OAuth 2|OAuth 2 access tokens]] will soon change from <code><user id></code> to <code dir=ltr style="white-space:nowrap">mw:<identity type>:<user id></code>, where <code><identity type></code> is typically <code dir=ltr>CentralAuth:</code><!-- not a typo --> (for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|SUL wikis]]) or <code dir=ltr style="white-space:nowrap">local:<wiki id></code> (for other wikis). This is to avoid conflicts between different user ID types, and to make OAuth 2 access tokens and the <code>sessionJwt</code> cookie more similar. Old access tokens will still work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399199] * MediaWiki's block messages ([[MediaWiki:Blockedtext|blockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext-partial|blockedtext-partial]], [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext|autoblockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Systemblockedtext|systemblockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext-tempuser|blockedtext-tempuser]], [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext-tempuser|autoblockedtext-tempuser]]) now support additional parameters indicating whether the user is blocked from editing their own user talk page <code><nowiki>$9</nowiki></code> or emailing other users <code><nowiki>$</nowiki><nowiki>10</nowiki></code>. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285612] * A <code>REL1_45</code> branch for MediaWiki core and each of the extensions and skins in Wikimedia git has been created. This is the first step in the release process for MediaWiki 1.45.0, scheduled for late November 2025. If you are working on a critical bug fix or working on a new feature, you may need to take note of this change. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/ZUY7TY3Z6XPZWZVAZV63OPO5OW52Q6GE/] * The process for generating CirrusSearch dumps has been updated due to slowing performance. If you encounter any issues migrating to the replacement dumps, please contact the Search Platform Team for support. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366248][https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/3KQPOR6ACVN6OVLMLZPIBXQSWQKW4E3K/] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.2|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/46|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W46"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 10 nov 2025 21:38 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29606150 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-47</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W47"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/47|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|Reader Experience team]] is experimenting with [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience/WE3.3.4_Reading lists|reading lists on mobile web]], allowing logged-in readers with no edits to save private lists of articles for later. The experiment is running on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias since the week of 10 November, and will begin on English Wikipedia the week of 17 November. * Users who can’t receive their email verification code during login can now get help by submitting a form on a new special page. This update is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] initiative. If your account has an email address, please make sure you still have access to it. When logging in from a new device or location without 2FA, you may be asked to enter a 6-digit code sent by email to finish logging in. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security#Why are you requiring me to enter a code from my email to log in? Can I opt out of this?|Learn more]]. * One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikisource}} in [[d:Q13324|Minangkabau]] ([[s:min:|<code>s:min:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408317] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * As part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser Unification|Parser Unification]] project, the Content Transform Team rolled out Parsoid as the default parser to many low-traffic Wikipedias and is preparing the next step to high traffic ones. This message is an invitation for you to opt-in to Parsoid, as described in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserMigration|Extension:ParserMigration]] documentation, and identify any issues you might encounter with your own workflow using bots, gadgets, or user scripts. Please, let us know through the ''"Report Visual Bug"'' link in the Tools sidebar or create a phab ticket and tag the [[phab:project/view/5846|Content Transform Team in Phabricator]]. * Unsupported Tools: Several issues with [[:c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2Commons]] have been fixed, including filename-related upload failures, black-video imports, and retry handling. AV1 support has also been added. Ongoing work focuses on backend stability, ffmpeg errors, subtitle imports, metadata handling, and playlist uploads. To track specific tasks, check the [[phab:tag/video2commons/|Phabricator board]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.3|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * Save the date for the next Wikimedia Hackathon happening in Milan, Italy from May 1–3, 2026. Registration will open in January 2026. [https://pretix.eu/wikimedia/Hackathon-2026/ Scholarship applications are currently open], and will close on November 28, 2025. If you have any questions, please email <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">hackathon@wikimedia.org</bdi>. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/47|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W47"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 17 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29627455 --> == Herinnering: Help ons een naam te kiezen voor Abstract Wikipedia == <section begin="function2"/> {{int:Hello}}! Herinnering: help ons alsjeblieft bij het kiezen van een naam voor het nieuwe wikiproject Abstract Wikipedia. De stemming over de finalisten begint vandaag. De finalisten voor de naam zijn: <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Abstract Wikipedia, Multilingual Wikipedia, Wikiabstracts, Wikigenerator, Proto-Wiki</span>. Als je wilt deelnemen, '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|klik dan hier voor meer informatie en stem nu]]''' op meta-wiki. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}} <section end="function2"/> -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 20 nov 2025 15:23 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29583860 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-48</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W48"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/48|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Last week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Search Platform|Wikimedia Search Team]] recreated the "DWIM" (Do What I Mean) gadget functionality server-side, for Russian and Hebrew Wikipedias. This feature adds cross-keyboard suggestions to the standard search-box suggestions. For example, searching for ''<span lang="und" dir="ltr">cxfcnmt</span>'' on Russian Wikipedia will now add suggestions for ''<span lang="ru" dir="ltr">счастье</span>'' ("happiness") that the user probably intended. They plan to enable this feature for other Russian and Hebrew wikis this week. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408734] * Later this week, users of the "{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]] will have syntax highlighting available in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]]. This requires that the "{{int:discussiontools-preference-sourcemodetoolbar}}" preference be set. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T407918] * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|Campaign events extension]] – the set of tools for coordinating events and other on-wiki collaborations has now been deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. A new feature known as [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Collaborative contributions|Collaborative contribution]] to help organizers and participants see the impact of activities has also been added. Join the upcoming [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event:Connection learning session 3|learning session]] to see the new feature in action and share your feedback. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:24}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:24|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug which stopped CodeReviewBot from working, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410417] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Users of Wikimedia API can join a usability study to help validate the new design of Wikimedia REST API sandboxes. Interested participants should fill the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/487662 recruitment survey]. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/IREJRRWTZTGCYWQHDMSNJFTQAEPOOAE3/] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is deprecating XSLT stylesheets within the Action API. Support for <code dir=ltr>format=xml'''&xlst={stylesheet}'''</code> will be removed from Wikimedia projects by the end of November, 2025. In addition, it will soon be disabled by default in MediaWiki release versions: v1.43 (LTS), v1.44, and v1.45. Support for XSLT stylesheets will be fully removed from MediaWiki v1.46 (expected to release between April and May 2026). [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/5AX7UWAVVUNUSBOIRHMNOKWOZ5EZI3JX/] * The WDQS legacy endpoint ([https://query-legacy-full.wikidata.org/ query-legacy-full.wikidata.org]) will be decommissioned at the end of December 2025, and finally closed down on 7th January 2026. After this date, users should expect requests to query.wikidata.org that require the full graph to fail or return invalid results if they are not rewritten to use SPARQL federation. The team encourages users to ensure that tools and workflows use the supported WDQS endpoints (<span dir=ltr><nowiki>https://query.wikidata.org/</nowiki></span> - Main graph or <span dir=ltr><nowiki>https://query-scholarly.wikidata.org/</nowiki></span> - Scholarly graph). For support with migrating use cases, please review the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Data_access|Data Access]] and [[d:Wikidata:Request_a_query|Request a Query]] pages for details and assistance on alternative access methods. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.4|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/48|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W48"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 24 nov 2025 16:56 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29702226 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-49</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W49"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/49|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The Wikipedia Year in Review 2025 will be available on December 2 for users of iOS and Android Wikipedia apps, featuring new personalized insights, updated reading highlights, and refreshed designs. Learn more on the review's [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Wikipedia Year in Review/Updates|project page]]. * The Growth team is working on improving the text and presentation of the Verification Email sent to new users to make them more welcoming, useful and informative. Some new text have been drafted for A/B testing and you can help by translating them. See [[phab:T396155|Phabricator]]. * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]] will now be deployed at Japanese, Urdu and Chinese Wikipedias on December 2. Add a link is based on a prediction model that suggests links to be added to articles. While this feature has already been available on most Wikipedias, the prediction model could not support certain languages. A new model has now been developed to handle these languages, and it will be gradually rolled out to other Wikipedias over time. If you would like to know more, please contact [[mw:user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek (WMF)]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:34}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:34|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where search boxes on some Commons pages showed no results due to switch from SpecialSearch to MediaSearch, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399476] * Two new wikis have been created: ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q36846|Toki Pona]] ([[w:tok:|<code>w:tok:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404457] ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote}} in [[d:Q33655|Nigerian Pidgin]] ([[q:pcm:|<code>q:pcm:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408318] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.5|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The Wikimedia Foundation is in the early stages of exploring approaches to '''Article guidance'''. The initiative aims to identify interventions that could help new editors easily understand and apply existing Wikipedia practices and policies when creating an article. The project is in the exploration and early experimental design phase. All community members are encouraged to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|learn more]] about the project, and share their thoughts on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Article guidance|the talk page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/49|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W49"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 1 dec 2025 19:58 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29732328 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-50</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W50"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/50|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Anybody who wishes to secure their user account can now use [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Two-factor authentication|two-factor authentication]] (2FA). This is available to all registered users of all Wikimedia projects. This is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] initiative. Later, 2FA will be required for all users who can take security- or privacy-sensitive actions. '''Updates for editors''' * Following last week's deployments, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]] feature, which allows editors to add suggested links during editing, will be available to an additional [[Phab:T410469|33 Wikipedias]] starting on 9 December. This expansion is possible thanks to the new prediction model that now supports all languages, including those that were previously not covered. While the feature has been available on most Wikipedias for some time, this rollout brings us closer to using the improved model everywhere. If you have any questions or would like more details please contact [[mw:user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek (WMF)]]. * Last week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Search Platform|Search Platform team]] added [[w:en:Transliteration|transliterated]] as-you-type search suggestions to Georgian wikis. If there are only a few regular search suggestions, then queries in Latin or Cyrillic script [[phab:T127003|are now rewritten into Georgian script]] to look for more matches. For example, searching for either <bdi lang="ka-Latn" dir="ltr">''bedniereba''</bdi> or <bdi lang="ka-Cyrl" dir="ltr">''бедниереба''</bdi> will now suggest the existing article about <bdi lang="ka" dir="ltr">ბედნიერება</bdi> ("happiness"). You can recommend other languages where transliterated suggestions would be useful [[phab:T375215|on Phabricator]] for future development. * Later this week, a controlled experiment will begin for editors on the 100 largest Wikipedias who are editing a section in the mobile web visual editor. 50% of these editors will notice a new "Edit full page" button that will enable them to expand their editing session to the whole page. This feature is intended to make it easier for people on mobile web to edit any article section, regardless of which section-edit icon they tapped to begin. The experiment will last ~4 weeks. You can find [[phab:T409112|more details]] about the project. * Later this week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth|Reader Growth team]] will launch a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth/WE3.1.14 Expanded Mobile Sections|mobile web experiment]] to expand all article sections by default (currently they are collapsed by default) and pin the section header the user is currently reading to the top of the page. The experiment will affect 10% of users on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409485] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Wikipedia Year in Review/2025 Year in Review|Wikipedia Year in Review 2025]], a feature in the Wikipedia mobile apps (iOS and Android) that provides users with a personalised summary of their engagement with Wikipedia over the year, is now available on the iOS and Android apps. This edition includes expanded personalised insights, improved reading highlights, new donor messaging, and updated designs. Open the app to view your Year in Review and explore your reading journey from 2025. * A recent software bug caused edits made with VisualEditor to make unintended changes to wikitext, including removing whitespace and replacing spaces with underscores in wikilinks inside citations. This was partially fixed last week, and further fixes are in progress. Editors who used VisualEditor between November 28 and December 2 should review their edits for unexpected modifications. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411238] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the incorrect handling of URLs copied from the address bar of Microsoft Edge users, has been resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341281] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Starting this week, users of the "{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]] will have [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] as the editor for Lua, JavaScript, CSS, JSON and Vue content models, instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]]. With this, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Linting|linters]] will be upgraded. This is part of a larger effort to eventually replace CodeEditor and provide a consistent code editing experience. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373711] * Developers are encouraged to take the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/552643 2025 Developer Satisfaction Survey], which remains open until 5 January 2026. If you build software for the Wikimedia ecosystem and would like to share your experiences or feedback, your participation is greatly appreciated. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/W4WBKO6Q55UWWCCSFWQATKEXBEHP3QNR/] * There is no new MediaWiki version this week. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/50|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W50"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 8 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29738112 --> == Miljonairs == Nadat we twee weken terug de mijlpaal van 600.000 pagina's met een Nederlands woord bereikten, is WikiWoordenboek ergens gisterenmiddag rond 17.14 uur het miljoen pagina's in de hoofdnaamruimte gepasseerd. Omdat er wel eens wat wordt gesomberd over de toekomst van het Nederlands: onze taal behoort nu tot de 6 talen die zowel een Wikipedia als een Wiktionary met meer dan 1 miljoen pagina's hebben (Engels, Frans, Duits, Chinees, Russisch en Nederlands). Ik verwacht dat het Zweeds zich komend jaar bij die groep gaat voegen. Terugtellend kom ik uit bij de [[muurzwelmossen]] als miljoenste woord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 07:41 (CET) :Op zich heel mooi (best wonderlijk ook dat de projecten in het Spaans en Portugees wat dit betreft blijkbaar nog achterlopen op het Nederlands, terwijl dat wereldwijd bezien veel grotere talen zijn), maar toch hecht ik zelf vooral aan het verbeteren van de inhoudelijke kwaliteit. :Verder wat het pure aantal betreft: het is me al veel langer opgevallen dat er erg veel import vanaf WP hierheen plaatsvindt, vooral van dierenartikelen (op WP zijn die eerder meestal massaal aangemaakt met een gebruikersbot, en over de inhoudelijke betrouwbaarheid is nog altijd geregeld discussie op WP). Daar is de huidige 1 miljoen dus vooral aan te danken. Wie voelt er iets voor een deelproject om die artikelen hier deels te herschrijven, bijvoorbeeld met een originelere definitie en waar nodig vooral lexicologische aanvullingen? (De definitie is nu nog heel vaak een letterlijk gekopieerde WP-intro.) :Een ander nu heel belangrijk verbeterpunt is het verder aanvullen van veel bestaande pagina's. Nu wordt een woord dat soms in tientallen talen dezelfde vorm heeft, hier vaak nog steeds alleen in het Nederlands beschreven. Ik heb zelf vooral kennis van de grotere Indo-Europese talen (Engels, Frans, Duits) maar niet van de meeste minder bekende talen. Het devies is, lijkt mij, zorgen dat er meer "externe krachten" hier actief worden. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 11:56 (CET) ::Met je slotzin ben ik het eens. Het helpt daarbij als we de mensen die hier lemma's toevoegen laten blijken dat we hun inspanning op prijs stellen en af en toe ook samen bereikte resultaten vieren. ::De lemma's over dieren vormen overigens maar enkele procenten van het miljoen pagina's. Inhoudelijk zijn ze in de regel prima in orde, wellicht omdat ze juist ''niet'' klakkeloos zijn overgenomen. Ik pas vrijwel dagelijks omschrijvingen aan zodat ze meer in een woordenboek passen, maar dat geldt niet alleen voor dieren, maar ook voor tal van andere lemma's. Maar er is nog veel te doen. Ik ben vooral blij dat er het afgelopen jaar heel wat nieuwe bewerkers bij zijn gekomen, waardoor we deze mijlpaal veel eerder bereiken dan ik een jaar terug had gedacht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 23:12 (CET) : Een mooie mijlpaal, gefeliciteerd allen! Ik hou me vooralsnog vooral bezig met het toevoegen van Nederlandse lemmata aan en.wikt, maar het Nederlandse Wikiwoordenboek is daarbij een enorme steun. [[Gebruiker:Mnemosientje|Mnemosientje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mnemosientje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 13:14 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-51</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W51"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/51|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:18}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:18|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, one of the fixes addressed an issue for temporary accounts adding an external URL, which triggered an hCaptcha request in more cases than intended, and did not display the required popup on the first attempt to publish the edit. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411927] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * To improve database and site performance, external links to Wikimedia projects will no longer be stored in the database. This means they will not be searchable in [[{{#special:LinkSearch}}]], will not be checked by the Spam Blacklist or AbuseFilter as new links, and will not be in the <code dir=ltr>externallinks</code> table on database replicas. In the future this may be extended to other highly-linked trusted websites on a per-wiki basis, such as Creative Commons links on Wikimedia Commons. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405005] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.7|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/51|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W51"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 15 dec 2025 20:03 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29796010 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-52</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W52"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/52|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * From January, edit filters [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter/Access flags|can be set]] to automatically suppress their details such as rules and list of attempted edits and actions. This will help oversighters use edit filters to prevent doxxing or other suppressible material. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290324] * The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 12 January 2026 because of the end of year holidays. Thank you to all of the translators, and people who submitted content or feedback, this year. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:16}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:16|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the crash that occurred when tapping "First Steps" in the Wikipedia Android Year in Review has now been fixed, and the feature opens as expected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411546] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Interface elements such as diffs and categories generated by MediaWiki used to have the attribute <code dir=ltr>data-mw="interface"</code> to distinguish from wiki content. The attribute has been replaced with <code dir=ltr>data-mw-interface=""</code>, to avoid potential conflicts with other <code dir=ltr>data-mw</code> attributes, which are generated by Parsoid. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409187] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week. '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026|Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026]] will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications just opened mid-December and will close in mid-January or earlier if capacity is reached. With space for approximately 100 participants, early application is encouraged. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/52|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W52"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 22 dec 2025 22:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29831856 --> == Van Dale is gestopt met zijn gratis online woordenboek == Vanaf 10 december is het gratis aanbod op de site van Van Dale beperkt tot het puzzelwoordenboek en het rijmwoordenboek. Als reden wordt opgegeven dat Van Dale zijn gebruikers een betere taalervaring wil bieden: zonder advertenties, zonder afleiding en met toegang tot alle functies die nodig zijn. Het gratis woordenboek werd vaak verward met de Dikke Van Dale, maar bood maar een beperkte selectie van woorden, met een duidelijk kleinere omvang dan WikiWoordenboek. Het alternatief is nu een betaald abonnement van € 81,75 per jaar voor de Dikke Van Dale of van € 5,44 per jaar voor de versie voor onderwijs NT2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 14:09 (CET) == Report concerning User:~2026-14769-0 == [[Special:Contributions/~2026-14769-0|~2026-14769-0]] &ndash; Vandalism <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small> --[[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 00:10 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-03</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W03"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/03|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Product & Technology OKRs|Meta]] and ''[[diffblog:2025/12/10/shaping-wikimedia-foundations-2026-2027-annual-goals-key-questions-for-the-wikimedia-movement/|Diff]]''. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on the [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. '''Updates for editors''' * As part of the current work of Community Tech team on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/W372|Multiple watchlists]] project, the display of [[Special:EditWatchlist|EditWatchlist]] will be updated as a first step towards multiple watchlists. Additionally, the pagination on [[Special:Search|Search]] will be updated too, as a part of the work on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/W186|Revamp pagination / page navigation]] wish. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411596] * [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|The Global Watchlist]] is a MediaWiki [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] that lets you see your watchlists from different wikis on the same page. It was recently updated to look more like the regular [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlist]], such as preparing it for temporary accounts in IP masking (including rerouting user links to contributions pages), making page titles bold, and opening links in edit summaries and tags in new browser tabs. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T398361][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T298919][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273526][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286309] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where global blocks did not have the option to disable sending emails, has now been fixed, and will be available for use in the week of January 13. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401293] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Citation tool|VisualEditor citation tool]] and [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Reference Previews|Reference Previews]] now support "map" as a reference type. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411083] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.10|MediaWiki]]/[[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.11|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/03|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W03"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 12 jan 2026 20:33 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29907192 --> == Thank You for Last Year – Join Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 == Dear Wikimedia communities, We hope you are doing well, and we wish you a happy New Year. ''Last year, we captured light. This year, we’ll capture legacy.'' In 2025, communities around the world shared the glow of Ramadan nights and the warmth of collective iftars. In 2026, ''Wiki Loves Ramadan'' is expanding, bringing more stories, more cultures, and deeper global connections across Wikimedia projects. We invite you to explore the ''Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026'' [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026|Meta page]] to learn how you can participate and [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026/Participating communities|sign up]] your community. 📷 ''Photo campaign on '' [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026|Wikimedia Commons]] If you have questions about the project, please refer to the FAQs: * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan/FAQ/|Meta-Wiki]] * [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki Loves Ramadan/FAQ|Wikimedia Commons]] ''Early registration for updates is now open via the '''[[m:Special:RegisterForEvent/2710|Event page]]''''' ''Stay connected and receive updates:'' * [https://t.me/WikiLovesRamadan Telegram channel] * [https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikilovesramadan.lists.wikimedia.org/ Mailing list] We look forward to collaborating with you and your community. '''The Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 Organizing Team''' 16 jan 2026 20:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:ZI Jony@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Non-Technical_Village_Pumps_distribution_list&oldid=29879549 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-04</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W04"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/04|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The tray shown on [[Special:Diff|Special:Diff]] in mobile view has been redesigned. It is now collapsed by default, and incorporates a link to undo the edit being viewed, making it easier for mobile editors and reviewers to take action while keeping the interface uncluttered. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402297] * [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|The Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] continues to improve — it now automatically determines the text direction (ensuring correct display of sites with unusual domain names) and shows detailed descriptions for log actions. Later this week, a new permanent link for page creations and CSS classes for each entry element will be added. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T412505][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T287929][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262768][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414135] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:32}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:32|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the previously observed issue in Vector 2022, where anchor link targets were obscured by the sticky header, has now been addressed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406114] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * As mentioned in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|October 2025 deprecation announcement]], MediaWiki Interfaces team will begin sunsetting all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from the MediaWiki REST API the week of January 26. Changes are expected to roll out to all wikis on or before January 30th. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found, compared, and tested using the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox]. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in Phabricator to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/6931/ #MW-Interfaces-Team board]. * Interactive reference documentation for the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia REST API|Wikimedia REST API]] has moved. Requests to API docs previously hosted through [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/RESTBase|RESTBase]] (e.g.: <code dir=ltr>https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/</code>) are now redirected to the [[w:en:Special:RestSandbox|REST Sandbox]]. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata Platform|WMF Wikidata Platform team]] (WDP) has published its [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Wikidata Platform team/Newsletter|January 2026 newsletter]]. It includes updates on the legacy full-graph endpoint decommissioning, the User-Agent policy change, the monthly Blazegraph migration office hours, and efforts to reduce regressions caused by the legacy endpoint shutdown. As a reminder, you can [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Global message delivery/Targets/WDP team updates|subscribe to the WDP newsletter]]! * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.12|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026|Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026]] will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications opened mid-December and will close soon or when capacity is reached. It's a two-day, technically oriented hackathon bringing together Wikimedians from the region. Hope to see you there! '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/04|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W04"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 19 jan 2026 21:29 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29943403 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Annual review of the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> I am writing to you to let you know the annual review period for the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines is open now. You can make suggestions for changes through 9 February 2026. This is the first step of several to be taken for the annual review. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Annual review/2026|Read more information and find a conversation to join on the UCoC page on Meta]]. The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. This annual review was planned and implemented by the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|you may review the U4C Charter]]. Please share this information with other members in your community wherever else might be appropriate. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]])<section end="announcement-content" /> </div> 19 jan 2026 22:02 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Keegan (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29905753 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-05</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W05"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/05|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia Foundation invites comments on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Year1 Reflections and Proposed Way Forward 2026 Update|proposed future]] of the [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product and Technology Advisory Council]] until 28 February. * All users with registered accounts can now use passkeys for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Two-factor authentication|two-factor authentication]] (2FA). Passkeys are a simple way to log in without using a second device. They verify the user's identity using a fingerprint, face scan, or a PIN code. To set up a passkey, first set up a regular 2FA method. Currently, to log in with a passkey, users must also use a password. Later this quarter, passwordless login will allow users to log in with a single click and a passkey. Users with advanced rights will also be required to have 2FA enabled. This is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] project. * Unregistered contributors on blocked IPs or blocked IP ranges can now interact on-wiki to appeal a block by creating a temporary account to appeal a block on the user talk page, unless the "prevent this user from editing their own talk page" is enabled. This solves the problem of logged-out users unable to use the default unblock process via user talk page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T398673] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) methods description on the management page has been updated. It is now clearer and easier for users to understand and make use of. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332385] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new AbuseFilter variable, <code>account_type</code>, has been added to provide a reliable way to determine the account type being created in the <code>createaccount</code> and <code>autocreateaccount</code> actions. As part of this change, the variable <code>accountname</code> has been renamed to <code>account_name</code>, and <code>accountname</code> is now deprecated. Edit filter managers should update any filters that use hardcoded account type checks or the deprecated variable. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414049] * Image thumbnails that are requested in non-standard sizes, and using non-standard methods such as direct requests to <code dir=ltr><nowiki>upload.wikimedia.org/…</nowiki></code> will stop working in the near future. This change is to prevent ongoing external abuse by web-scrapers and bots. Some users with custom CSS/JS, Interface Admins who can fix gadgets and local skins, and Tool-authors, will need to update their code to use standard thumbnail sizes. [[phab:T414805|Details, search-links, and examples of how to fix them, are available in the task]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.13|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/05|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W05"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 26 jan 2026 22:17 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29969530 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-06</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W06"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/06|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The "{{int:pageinfo-toolboxlink}}" feature, which gives validating information about a page ([{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=info}} example]), now automatically includes a table of contents. If there is a local [[{{ns:8}}:Pageinfo-header]] page created by individual users, it can now be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363726] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, VisualEditor previously added bold or italic formatting inside link descriptions, making the wikicode complex. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409669] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * There was no XML dump on 20 January. Additionally, from now on, dumps will be generated once per month only. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414389] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team removed support for all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/API:REST%20API MediaWiki REST API]. All API users currently calling those endpoints are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in phabricator to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/6931/ #MW-Interfaces-Team board]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.14|MediaWiki]] '''Weekly highlight''' * Users are reminded that the Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Product & Technology OKRs|Meta]] and ''[[diffblog:2025/12/10/shaping-wikimedia-foundations-2026-2027-annual-goals-key-questions-for-the-wikimedia-movement/|Diff]]''. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on the [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/06|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W06"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 2 feb 2026 18:43 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30000986 --> == Toegang tot Ensie == Zouden WikiWoordenboekvrienden toegang kunnen krijgen tot https://www.ensie.nl? Blijkbaar hebben onderwijsinstellingen toegang? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 8 feb 2026 17:53 (CET) :Voor zover ik kan nagaan gaat het daarbij om betaalde abonnementen per instelling. Misschien kunnen Wikimedia België en Wikimedia Nederland een gezamenlijk zo'n instellingsabonnement afsluiten. Je zou ook kunnen kijken of ENSIE kan worden opgenomen in de [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/?next_url=/search/?q= Wikipedia Library]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 14:04 (CET) ::Ensie kopieert zelf geregeld vanaf o.a. dit project en Wikipedia. Het lijkt me dus niet echt nodig om hier een speciale externe link of zo van te maken (je creëert dan immers voornamelijk ''cirkelverwijzingen''), hooguit kan er misschien in bepaalde gevallen naartoe worden gelinkt als dat echt iets van meerwaarde oplevert. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 13:03 (CET) :::De vraag ging - denk ik - alleen maar over de mogelijkheid om ENSIE te raadplegen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-07</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W07"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/07|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * [[File:Maki-gift-15.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Wishlist item]] Logged-in contributors who manage large or complex watchlists can now organise and filter watched pages in ways that improve their workflows with the new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Watchlist labels|Watchlist labels]] feature. By adding custom labels (for example: pages you created, pages being monitored for vandalism, or discussion pages) users can more quickly identify what needs attention, reduce cognitive load, and respond more efficiently. This improves watchlist usability, especially for highly active editors. * A new feature available on [[Special:Contributions|Special:Contributions]] shows [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] that are likely operated by the same person, and so makes patrolling less time-consuming. Upon checking contributions of a temporary account, users with access to temporary account IP addresses can now see a view of contributions from the related temporary accounts. The feature looks up all the IPs associated with a given temporary account within the data retention period and shows all the contributions of all temporary accounts that have used these IPs. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts#February 2026: Improvements to the patroller tooling|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415674] * When editors preview a wikitext edit, the reminder box that they are only seeing a preview (which is shown at the top), now has a grey/neutral background instead of a yellow/warning background. This makes it easier to distinguish preview notes from actual warnings (for example, edit conflicts or problematic redirect targets), which will now be shown in separate warning or error boxes. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414742] * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] continues to improve — it now properly supports more than one Wikibase site, for example both [[d:|Wikidata]] and [[testwikidata:|testwikidata]]. In addition, issues regarding text direction have been fixed for users who prefer Wikidata or other Wikibase sites in right-to-left (RTL) languages. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415440][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415458] * The automatic "magic links" for ISBN, RFC, and PMID numbers have been [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic links|deprecated in wikitext since 2021]] due to inflexibility and difficulties with localization. Several wikis have successfully replaced RFC and PMID magic links with equivalent external links, but a template was often required to replace the functionality of the ISBN magic link. There is now a new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic words#isbn|built-in parser function]] <code dir=ltr><nowiki>{{#isbn}}</nowiki></code> available to replace the basic functionality of the ISBN magic link. This makes it easier for wikis who wish to migrate off of the deprecated magic link functionality to do so. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145604] * Two new wikis have been created: ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q35401|Jju]] ([[w:kaj:|<code>w:kaj:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413283] ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q1186896|Nawat]] ([[w:ppl:|<code>w:ppl:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413273] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new global user group has been created: [[{{int:grouppage-local-bot}}|{{int:group-local-bot}}]]. It will be used internally by the software to allow community bots to bypass rate limits that are applied to abusive [[w:en:Web scraping|web scrapers]]. Accounts that are approved as bots on at least one Wikimedia wiki will be automatically added to this group. It will not change what user permissions the bot has. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415588] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.15|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Spring 2026|MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference, Spring 2026]] will be held March 25–27 in Salt Lake City, USA. This event is organized by and for the third-party MediaWiki community. You can propose sessions and register to attend. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/AZBWVI46SDEB65PGR5J6E4TYOQQEZXM7/] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/07|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W07"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 10 feb 2026 00:30 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30026671 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-08</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W08"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/08|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Site Reliability Engineering|SRE Team]] will be performing a cleanup of Wikimedia's [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Etherpad|Etherpad]] instance, the web-based editor for real-time collaborative document editing. All pads will be permanently deleted after 30 April, 2026 – if there are still migration projects in progress at that point the team can revisit the date on a case by case basis. Please create local backups of any content you wish to keep, as deleted data cannot be recovered. This cleanup helps reduce database size and minimize infrastructure footprint. Etherpad will continue to support real-time collaboration, but long-term storage should not be expected. Additional cleanups may occur in the future without prior notice. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415237] '''Updates for editors''' * The Information Retrieval team will be launching an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Information Retrieval/Phase 1|Android mobile app experiment]] that tests hybrid search capabilities which can handle both semantic and keyword queries. The improvement of on-platform search will enable readers to find what they’re looking for directly on Wikipedia more easily. The experiment will first be launched on Greek Wikipedia in late February, followed by English, French, and Portuguese in March. [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2026/01/08/semantic-search-making-it-easier-to-find-the-information-readers-want/ Read more] on Diff blog. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Information_Retrieval] * The Reader Growth team will run [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth/WE3.10.2 Mobile Table of Contents|an experiment]] for mobile web users, that adds a table of contents and automatically expands all article sections, to learn more about navigation issues they face. The test will be available on Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. * Previously, site notices ([[{{ns:8}}:Sitenotice]] and [[{{ns:8}}:Anonnotice]]) would only render on the desktop site. Now, they will render on all platforms. Users on mobile web will now see these notices and be informed. Site administrators should be prepared to test and fix notices on mobile devices to avoid interference with articles. To opt out, interface admins can add <code dir="ltr">#siteNotice { display: none; }</code> to [[{{ns:8}}:Minerva.css]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138572][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416644] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:19}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:19|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, an issue on [[Special:RecentChanges|Special:RecentChanges]] has been fixed. Previously, clicking hide in the active filters caused the "view new changes since…" button to disappear, though it should have remained visible. The button now behaves as expected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406339] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * New documentation is now available to help editors debug on-site search features. It supports troubleshooting when pages do not appear in results, when ranking seems unexpected, and when you need to inspect what content is being indexed, helping make search behavior easier to understand and analyze. [[mw:Help:CirrusSearch/Debug|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411169] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.16|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/08|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W08"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16 feb 2026 20:17 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30086330 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-09</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W09"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/09|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Reference Check|Reference Check]] has been deployed to English Wikipedia, completing its rollout across all Wikipedias. The feature prompts newcomers to add a citation before publishing new content, helping reduce common citation-related reverts and improve verifiability. In A/B testing, the impact was substantial: newcomers shown Reference Check were approximately 2.2 times more likely to include a reference on desktop and about 17.5 times more likely on mobile web. [https://analytics.wikimedia.org/published/reports/editing/reference_check_ab_test_report_final_2025.html] '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:InterwikiSorting|InterwikiSorting extension]], which allowed for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Interwiki sorting order|sorting of interwiki links]], has been undeployed from Wikipedia. As a result, editors who had enabled interwiki link sorting in non-compact mode (full list format) will now see links reordered. The links moving forward will be listed in the alphabetical order of language code. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253764] * Later this week, people who are editing a page-section using the mobile visual editor, will notice a new "Edit full page" button. When tapped, you will be able to edit the entire article. This helps when the change you want to make is outside the section you initially opened. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T387175][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409112] * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|The Reader Experience team]] is inviting editors to assess whether dark mode should still be considered "beta" on their wiki, based on their experience of how well it functions on desktop and mobile. If the feature is deemed mature, editors can update the interface messages in <code dir=ltr>MediaWiki:skin-theme-description</code> and <code dir=ltr>MediaWiki:Vector-night-mode-beta-tag</code> to indicate that dark mode is ready and no longer considered beta. * The improved [[mw:Wikimedia_Apps/Team/iOS/Activity_Tab|Activity tab]] which displays user-insights is now available to all users of the Wikipedia iOS app (version 7.9.0 and later). Following earlier A/B testing that showed higher account creation among users with access to the feature, it has been rolled out to 100% of users along with some updates. The Activity tab now shows your edited articles in the timeline, offers editing impact insights like contribution counts and article view trends, and customization options to improve in-app experience for users. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a bug that prevented [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]] from working on mobile has now been fixed, restoring full functionality. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415303] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] that makes this possible continues to improve. The latest upgrade is the inclusion of a [[mw:Extension:GlobalWatchlist#hook|new hook]], <code dir=ltr>ext.globalwatchlist.rebuild</code>, which fires after each watchlist rebuild. This allows you to run gadgets and user scripts for the Special page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275159] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.17|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/09|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W09"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23 feb 2026 20:03 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30119102 --> == Samenwerkingsproject met Swánga̱lyiatwuki == Meer dan een jaar geleden heb ik {{WikiW|De_Kroeg/2024#Swánga̱lyiatwuki|in De kroeg}} het {{WikiW|Samenwerking met Swánga̱lyiatwuki|samenwerkingsproject}} met de wiktionary in the Tyap, Swánga̱lyiatwuki aangekondigd. Dit is inmiddels in de derde fase beland. Aan de Nigeriaanse kant vormen de minimale faciliteiten waarmee ze het project moeten ontwikkelen de grootste belemmering. Aan onze kant is lastig dat er vrijwel geen openbaar toegankelijke informatie over het Tyap bestaat. Op dat laatste punt gaat [[Gebruiker:DouwesJolan|Jolan Douwes]], masterstudent taalkunde aan de Universiteit Leiden die via de Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland stage loopt bij WikiWoordenboek ons helpen om een goede beschrijving van woordsoorten en verbuigingen te krijgen, zodat we beter in staat zijn categorieën en sjablonen voor het Tyap te ontwikkelen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 14:43 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-10</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W10"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/10|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikipedia 25 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments|Birthday mode]] is now live on Betawi, Breton, Chinese, Czech, Dutch, English, French, Gorontalo, Indonesian, Italian, Luxembourgish, Madurese, Sicilian, Spanish, Thai, and Vietnamese Wikipedias! This limited-time campaign feature celebrates 25 years of Wikipedia with a birthday mascot, Baby Globe. When turned on, Baby Globe is shown on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments/article configuration|~2,500 articles]], waiting to be discovered by readers. Communities can choose to turn Birthday mode on by getting consensus from their community and asking an admin to enable the feature and customize it via [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments#Community Configuration Demo|community configuration]] on the local wiki. '''Updates for editors''' * [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing|Sub-referencing]], a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to Swedish Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia and [[:phab:T418209|a couple of other wikis]]. You can [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#test|try the feature]] on these projects or on testwiki and [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmcloud.org/wiki/Sub-referencing betawiki]. Learnings from the first pilot wiki German Wikipedia have been [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing/Learnings|published in a report]]. Reach out to the Wikimedia Deutschland team if you are [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Pilot wikis|interested in becoming a pilot wiki]]. * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#Paste check|Paste Check]] will become available at all Wikipedias this week. The feature prompts newcomers who are pasting text they are not likely to have written into VisualEditor to consider whether doing so risks a copyright violation. Paste Check [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Tags|tags]] all edits where it is shown for potential review. Local administrators can configure various aspects of the feature via [[{{#special:EditChecks}}]]. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Paste Check#A/B Experiment|Research]] across 22 wikis found that Paste Check resulted in an 18% decrease in relative reverted-edits compared to the control group. Translators can [https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&group=ext-visualeditor-ve-mw-editcheck&filter=&optional=1&action=translate help to localize] this and related features. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|Reader Experience team]] will be standardizing the user menu in the top right for all mobile users so that it is closer to the desktop experience. Currently this user menu is only visible to users with Advanced Mobile Controls (AMC) turned on. The only change is that a couple buttons previously in the left-side menu will move to the top right for users who do not have AMC turned on. This change is expected to go out March 9 and seeks to improve the user interface. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413912] * Starting in the week of March 2, the emails sent out when an email address was added, removed, or changed for an account will switch to a substantially nicer and clearer HTML email from the prior plaintext one. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410807] * Notifications are currently limited to 2,000 historic entries per user, and extend back to 2013 when the feature was released. This is going to be changed to only store Notifications from the last 5 years, but up to 10,000 of them. This will help with long-term infrastructure health and help to prevent more recent notifications from disappearing too soon. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] which lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on a single page continues to see improvements. The latest update improves label usage experience. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] now allows activating the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Language#Fallback languages|language fallback system]] for Wikidata items without labels in the viewed language, and showing those labels in the user’s preferred Wikidata language if no <code dir=ltr>uselang=</code> URL parameter is provided. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373686][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416111] * The Wikipedia Android team has started a beta test of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Information Retrieval/Phase 1|hybrid search]] on Greek Wikipedia. Hybrid search capabilities can handle both semantic and keyword queries enabling readers to find what they’re looking for directly on Wikipedia more easily. * For security reasons, members of certain user groups are [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Mandatory two-factor authentication for users with some extended rights|required to have two-factor authentication]] (2FA) enabled. Currently, 2FA is required to use the group, but not to be a member of it. Given that this model still has some vulnerabilities, the situation will [[phab:T418580|gradually change in March]]. Members of these groups will be unable to disable last 2FA method on their account, and it will be impossible to add users without 2FA to these groups. Users will still be able to add new authentication methods or remove them, as long as at least one method is continuously enabled. In the second half of March, users without 2FA will be removed from these groups. This applies to: CentralNotice administrators, checkusers, interface administrators, suppressors, Wikidata staff, Wikifunctions staff, WMF Office IT and WMF Trust & Safety. Nothing will change for other users. See the linked task for deployment schedule. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418580] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:27}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:27|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue preventing users from creating an instance in [https://www.wikibase.cloud/ Wikibase.cloud] has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416807] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * To help ensure [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Responsible Reuse|fair use of infrastructure]], over the next month the Wikimedia Foundation will implement global API rate limits across our APIs. In early March, stricter limits will be applied to unidentified requests from outside Toolforge/WMCS and API requests that are made from web browsers. In April, higher limits will be applied to identified traffic. These limits are intentionally set as high as possible to minimise impact on the community. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits|Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits]]. * The Wikidata Query Service Linked Data Fragment (LDF) endpoint will be decommissioned in February. This endpoint served limited traffic, which was successfully migrated to other data access methods that were better suited to support existing use cases. The hardware used to support the LDF endpoint will be reallocated to support the ongoing backend migration efforts. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415696] * The new Parsoid parser [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser Unification/Updates|continues to be deployed to additional wikis]], improving platform sustainability and making it easier to introduce new reading and editing features. Parsoid is now the default parser on 488 WMF wikis (268 Wikipedias), now covering more than 10% of all Wikipedia page views. * The process and criteria for [[Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Enterprise#Access|requesting exceptional access]] to the high volume feed of the ''Wikimedia Enterprise'' APIs (at no cost for mission-aligned usecases), [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Enterprise#Exceptional access criteria|have now been published]]. This is to provide more thorough and clearer documentation for users. * [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/ Tech Blog], the blog dedicated to the Wikimedia technical community [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2026/02/24/a-tech-blog-diff/ will be migrating] to [[diffblog:|Diff]], the community news and event blog. The migration should be complete in April 2026, after which new posts will be accepted for publishing. Readers will be able to access posts – old and new – on the landing page at https://diff.wikimedia.org/techblog. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.18|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/10|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W10"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 2 mrt 2026 18:51 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30137798 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-11</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W11"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. * Last week, all wikis had 2 hours of read-only time, and extended unavailability for user-scripts and gadgets. This was due to a security incident which has since been resolved. Work is ongoing to prevent re-occurrences. For current information please see the [[m:Steward's noticeboard#Statement on Meta about today's user script security incident|post on the Stewards' noticeboard]] ([[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Product and Technology/Product Safety and Integrity/March 2026 User Script Incident|translations]]). '''Updates for editors''' * Users facing multiple blocks on mobile will now see the reasons for each block separately, instead of a generic message. This helps them understand why they are blocked and what steps they can take to resolve the issue. For example, users affected for using common VPNs (such as [[Special:MyLanguage/Apple iCloud Private Relay|iCloud Private Relay]]) will receive clearer guidance on what they need to do to start editing again. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T357118] * Later this week, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Suggestion Mode|Suggestion Mode]] will become available as a beta feature within the visual editor at all Wikipedias. This feature proactively suggests various types of actions that people can consider taking to improve Wikipedia articles, and learn about related guidelines. The feature is locally configurable, and can also be locally expanded with custom Suggestions. Current settings can be seen at [[Special:EditChecks]] and there are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Suggestion mode#For administrators %E2%80%93 local customization|instructions for how administrators can customize]] the links to point to local guidelines. The feature is connected to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check|Edit check]] which suggests improvements while someone is writing new content. In the future, the Editing team plans to evaluate the feature's impact with newcomers through a controlled experiment. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404600] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where the cursor became misaligned during the use of CodeMirror’s syntax highlighting, which makes wikitext and code easier to read, has now been fixed. This problem specifically affected users who defined a font rule in a custom stylesheet while creating a new topic with DiscussionTools. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418793] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * API rate limiting update: To help ensure [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Responsible Reuse|fair use of infrastructure]], global API rate limits will be applied this week to requests without a compliant User-Agent that originate from outside Toolforge/WMCS and to unauthenticated requests made from web browsers. Higher limits will be applied to identified traffic in April. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits|Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits]]. * The new GraphQL API has been released. The API was developed as a flexible alternative to select features of the Wikidata Query Service (WDQS), to improve developer experience and foster adaptability, and efficient data access. Try it out and [[d:Wikidata:Wikibase GraphQL#Feedback and development|give feedback]]. You can also [https://greatquestion.co/wikimediadeutschland/GraphQLAPI/apply sign up for usability tests]. * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|PTAC Unsupported Tools Working Group]] continued improvements to [[commons:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons#|Video2Commons]] in February, with fixes addressing authentication errors, large-file handling, task queue visibility, and clearer upload behavior. Work is still ongoing in some areas, including changes related to deprecated server-side uploads. Read [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group#February 2026|this update]] to learn more. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.19|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The Article Guidance team invites experienced Wikipedia editors from selected [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance/Pilot wikis and collaborators#Collaborators|pilot wikis]] and interested contributors from other Wikipedias to fill out this questionnaire which is available in [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfmLeVWnxmsCbPoI_UF2jyRcn73WRGWCVPHzerXb4Cz97X_Ag/viewform English], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6rzr4XXQw8r4024fE3geTPFe13M_6w7Mitj-YJi0sOlWTAw/viewform?usp=header Arabic], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdok3-RfB18lcugYTUMGkpwmqG_8p760Wv4dCXitOXOszjUDw/viewform?usp=header Bengali], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfjTfYp4jEo0akA4B1e-Nfg3QZPCudUjhJzHzzDi6AHyAaMGA/viewform?usp=header Japanese], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScteVoI29Aue4xc72dekk-6RYtvmMgQxzMI900UOawrFrSTWg/viewform?usp=header Portuguese], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSetdxnYwL3ub2vqA7awCg5hJZPMIYcDPaiTe12rY9h0GYnVlw/viewform?usp=header Persian], and [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNvfJF-Ot-4pzA4qAN771_0QDJ4Li19YcUsaTgSKW8Nc7U_Q/viewform?usp=header Turkish]. Your answers will help the team customize guidance for less experienced editors and help them learn community policies and practices while creating an article. Learn more [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|on the project page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W11"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 9 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30213008 --> == archive.today == Bij verwijzing naar online bronnen is het vaak nuttig ook een archieflink aan te maken, vooral bij websites die zelf niet als archief zijn bedoeld. Voor dit doel wordt op WikiWoordenboek meestal het Internet Archive (archive.org) gebruikt. Daarnaast gebruiken we soms ook wel het daarvan los staande archive.today of een van zijn mirrorsites (meestal archive.ph). Het gebruik van archive.today en zijn mirrors is [[meta:Archive.today_incident|op Wikimediaprojecten omstreden]] geworden. De eigenaar van archive.today kreeg een ruzie met een blogger en ging er toen toe over om gebruikers van archive.today via wat code ongemerkt ook loze html-oproepen aan het blog te laten sturen, zodat het raadplegen daarvan werd bemoeilijkt. Daarnaast werd ook duidelijk dat hij op archive.today opgeslagen archiefpagina's van een eigen site had aangepast. Voor sommige Wikimediaprojecten waren dit voldoende redenen om helemaal geen gebruik meer te maken van archive.today, andere projecten kiezen voor minder vergaande beperkingen. De WMF laat deze kwestie voor dit moment over aan de afzonderlijke projecten, maar sluit niet uit dit in de toekomst zal veranderen. Op WikiWoordenboek is de situatie vrij overzichtelijk, omdat we hier vooral archive.org gebruiken: er zijn vele duizenden pagina's die naar die site verwijzen en nog geen 130 waar archive.today is gebruikt. Daarbij zitten echter wel een aantal pagina's die zich niet via archive.org laten archiveren. Soms lijkt dit een technische kwestie, maar er wordt in sommige gevallen ook expliciet aangegeven dat een site niet via archive.org wil worden vastgelegd omdat zo'n archiefpagina kan worden gebruikt om kunstmatige intelligentie te trainen. In dat soort gevallen lijken de voordelen van archivering via archive.today mij groter dat het weglaten van een archieflink of van de hele verwijzing. Mijn pragmatische voorstel is daarom als volgt: # We spreken af om in principe archive.org voor archieflinks te gebruiken. Indien mogelijk wordt een bestaande archieflink naar archive.today vervangen door een equivalent op archive.org. # In gevallen waarin een onvervangbare bron of vindplaats zich niet op die manier laat archiveren, wordt archive.'''ph''' gebruikt. Op die manier houden we goed overzicht van het gebruik van archive.today. Voor de bestaande links heb ik dit klusje al uitgevoerd. De keus voor deze mirror is ingegeven doordat dit het minste werk opleverde. # We maken geen gebruik meer van de overige sites van archive.today en voegen die toe aan de lijst van sites waar niet naartoe kan worden gelinkt. # We verzoeken de WMF uitdrukkelijk om bij het doorvoeren van meer ingrijpende maatregelen eerst een voorziening te treffen voor pagina's die niet op archive.org kunnen worden bewaard. Mij staat voor ogen om de komende 4 weken de reacties af te wachten en afhankelijk daarvan 3. en 4. uit te voeren. Met het oog op dat laatste punt ben ik wel al bezig met de vervangingen onder 1. omdat er zo een beter beeld ontstaat van de sites waar het om gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 13:11 (CET) :Nee, de kwestie is niet slechts een ruzie. De blog heeft door middel van doxing geprobeerd de eigenaar van archive.today onder druk te zetten. Het raadplegen van de blog is niet bemoeilijkt en is niet uitgevallen. :Voor veel Nederlandstalige bronnen is archive.today de enige manier om te archiveren. Ook de Internet Archive heeft regelmatig last van storingen. Ik pleit daarom voor diversificatie in plaats van minimalisatie. In andere woorden, dat bronnen in zo veel mogelijk archiefsites worden opgeslagen. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 13:02 (CET) == Save the Date: zaterdag 20 juni 2026 Verjaardagsfeest Wikipedia 25 jaar! == Op 19 juni bestaat de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia precies 25 jaar en dat willen we vieren! Daarom nodigen we je van harte uit voor het verjaardagsfeest op zaterdag 20 juni van 12:00 tot 17:00 uur bij restaurant LE:EN in Utrecht. Inschrijving is geopend! Op [[wmnl:Verjaardagsfeest_Wikipedia_25_jaar!|deze pagina]] vind je meer informatie alsmede het inschrijfformulier. We hopen dat je erbij kunt zijn en kijken ernaar uit je te mogen verwelkomen. Tot dan! Met vriendelijke groet, Team Wikimedia Nederland [[Gebruiker:JansenKirsten|JansenKirsten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JansenKirsten|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:53 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-12</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W12"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature, also known as [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror 6]], has been used for wikitext syntax highlighting since November 2024. It will be promoted out of beta by May 2026 in order to bring improvements and new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Features|features]] to all editors who use the standard syntax highlighter. If you have any questions or concerns about promoting the feature out of beta, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|please share]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259059] * Some changes to local user groups are performed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and logged there only. Now, interwiki rights changes will be logged both on Meta-Wiki and the wiki of the target user to make it easier to access a full record of user's rights changes on a local wiki. Past log entries for such changes will be backfilled in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T6055] * On wikis using [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Flagged Revisions|Flagged Revisions]], the number of pending changes shown on [[{{#Special:PendingChanges}}]] previously counted pages which were no longer pending review, because they have been removed from the system without being reviewed, e.g. due to being deleted, moved to a different namespace, or due to wiki configuration changes. The count will be correct now. On some wikis the number shown will be much smaller than before. There should be no change to the list of pages itself. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413016] * Wikifunctions composition language has been rewritten, resulting in a new version of the language. This change aims to increase service stability by reducing the orchestrator's memory consumption. This rewrite also enables substantial latency reduction, code simplification, and better abstractions, which will open the door to later feature additions. Read more about [[f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2026-03-11|the changes]]. * Users can now sort search results alphabetically by page title. The update gives an additional option to finding pages more easily and quickly. Previously, results could be sorted by Edit date, Creation date, or Relevance. To use the new option, open 'Advanced Search' on the search results page and select 'Alphabetically' under 'Sorting Order'. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403775] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons from importing files from Flickr has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419263] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new special page, [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}]], has been created to list transcluded pages that are flagged as containing lint errors to help users discover them easily. The list is sorted by the number of transclusions with errors. For example: [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}/night-mode-unaware-background-color]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170874] * Users of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature have been using [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]] for syntax highlighting when editing JavaScript, CSS, JSON, Vue and Lua content pages, for some time now. Along with promoting CodeMirror 6 out of beta, the plan is to replace CodeEditor as the standard editor for these content models by May 2026. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|Feedback or concerns are welcome]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419332] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] JavaScript modules will soon be upgraded to CodeMirror 6. Leading up to the upgrade, loading the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror</code> or <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.lib</code> modules from gadgets and user scripts was deprecated in July 2025. The use of the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.switch</code> hook was also deprecated in March 2025. Contributors can now make their scripts or gadgets compatible with CodeMirror 6. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror#Gadgets and user scripts|migration guide]] for more information. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373720] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is expanding coverage of REST API module definitions to include [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/API:REST API/Extensions|extension APIs]]. REST API modules are groups of related endpoints that can be independently managed and versioned. Modules now exist for [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414470 GrowthExperiments] and [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419053 Wikifunctions] APIs. As we migrate extension APIs to this structure, documentation will move out of the main MediaWiki OpenAPI spec and REST Sandbox view, and will instead be accessible via module-specific options in the dropdown on the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox] (i.e., [[{{#Special:RestSandbox}}]], available on all wiki projects). * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto|Scribunto]] extension provides different pieces of information about the wiki where the module is being used via the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual|mw.site]] library. Starting last week, the library also provides a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.site.wikiId|way]] of accessing the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Wiki ID|wiki ID]] that can be used to facilitate cross-wiki module maintenance. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146616] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.20|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Coolest Tool Award|2026 Coolest Tool Award]] celebrating outstanding community tools, is now open for nominations! Nominate your favorite tool using the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/435684?lang=en nomination survey] form by 23 March 2026. For more information on privacy and data handling, please see the [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Coolest_Tool_Award_2026_Survey_Privacy_Statement|survey privacy statement]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W12"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16 mrt 2026 20:35 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30260505 --> == Beursaanvraag Wikimania 2026 geopend == Van 21 - 25 juli vindt [[wikimania:2026:Wikimania|Wikimania]] in Parijs plaats, de jaarlijkse wereldwijde conferentie voor iedereen die betrokken is bij een of meerdere Wikimedia-projecten. Wikimedia Nederland stelt een beperkt aantal beurzen beschikbaar voor reis- en verblijfskosten voor het hoofdprogramma van 23–25 juli. Je kunt tot uiterlijk zondag 12 april een beurs aanvragen. [[wmnl:Wikimania_2026|Meer informatie over de beursaanvraag vind je op de verenigingswiki]]. Wikimedia Nederland [[Gebruiker:JansenKirsten|JansenKirsten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JansenKirsten|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:12 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-13</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W13"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikimedia site users can now log in without a password using passkeys. This is a secure method supported by fingerprint, facial recognition, or PIN. With this change, all users who opt for passwordless login will find it easier, faster, and more secure to log in to their accounts using any device. The new passkey login option currently appears as an autofill suggestion in the username field. An additional [[phab:T417120|"Log in with passkey" button]] will soon be available for users who have already registered a passkey. This update will improve security and user experience. The [[c:File:Passwordless_login_screencast.webm|screen recording]] demonstrates the passwordless login process step by step. * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia site users can now export their notifications older than 5 years using a [[toolforge:echo-chamber|new Toolforge tool]]. This will ensure that users retain their important notifications and avoid them being lost based on the planned change to delete notifications older than 5 years, as previously announced. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * Wikipedia editors in Indonesian, Thai, Turkish, and Simple English now have access to Special:PersonalDashboard. This is an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Moderator Tools/Dashboard|early version of an experience]] that introduces newer editors to patrolling workflows, making it easier for them to move from making edits to participating in more advanced moderation work on their project. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402647] * The [[Special:Block]] now has two minor interface changes. Administrators can now easily perform indefinite blocks through a dedicated radio button in the expiry section. Also, choosing an indefinite expiry provides a different set of common reasons to select from, which can be changed at: [[MediaWiki:Ipbreason-indef-dropdown]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401823] * Mobile editors [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments#Logged-out|at several wikis]] can now see an improved logged-out edit warning, thanks to the recent updates from the Growth team. These changes released last week are part of ongoing efforts and tests to enhance [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments|account creation experience on mobile]] and then increase participation. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408484] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:36}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:36|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented mobile web users from seeing the block information when affected by multiple blocks has been fixed. They can now see messages of all the blocks currently affecting them when they access Wikipedia. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Images built using Toolforge will soon get the upgraded buildpacks version, bringing support for newer language versions and other upstream improvements and fixes. If you use Toolforge Build Service, review the recent [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud-announce@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EMYTA32EV2V5SQ2JIEOD2CL66YFIZEKV/ cloud-announce email] and update your build configuration as necessary to ensure your tools are compatible. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Toolforge/Building_container_images&oldid=2392097#Buildpack_environment_upgrade_process][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380127] * The [https://api.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page API Portal] documentation wiki will shut down in June 2026. API keys created on the API Portal will continue to work normally. api.wikimedia.org endpoints will be deprecated gradually starting in July 2026. Documentation on the API Portal is moving to [[mw:Wikimedia APIs|mediawiki.org]]. Learn more on the [[wikitech:API Portal/Deprecation|project page]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes|WMDE Technical Wishes]] is considering improvements to [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names|automatically generated reference names in VisualEditor]]. Please check out the [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Proposed solutions|proposed solutions]] and participate in the [[m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Request for comment|request for comment]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W13"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23 mrt 2026 17:51 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30268305 --> == Kandidatuur Latijn als moderator == [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] heeft zich 26 maart {{WikiW|Aanmelding_moderators#Latijn|kandidaat gesteld als moderator}}, zonder hiervan in De Kroeg melding te maken. Het is aannemelijk dat Latijn niet wist dat dit goed gebruik is, vandaar dat ik dat nu maar doe. Het is in mijn ogen wel een indicatie dat er gewoon nog onvoldoende ervaring aanwezig is om moderator te worden. Een echte contra-indicatie is in mijn ogen het volgende: op 29 maart 16:46 is er een nieuw account [[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] aangemaakt. Dit account heeft in de hele Wikimediawereld precies twee bewerkingen gedaan: om 16:47 [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Latijn&diff=prev&oldid=5503673 deze bewerking] op de overlegpagina van Latijn, die om 17:38 door Latijn ongedaan is gemaakt, gevolgd door [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding_moderators&diff=prev&oldid=5503753 een stem voor Latijn als moderator] om 18:17, die door mij inmiddels om een voor de hand liggende reden ongeldig is verklaard. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:20 (CEST) :is het nu geldig [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:22 (CEST) ::Kiezen Jochenknabben, Kvdrgeus en Marcel coenders voor of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 15:57 (CEST) mlhjf17u1j1e648gs4jdez793qhrbur 5504155 5504009 2026-03-30T19:25:56Z MediaWiki message delivery 16770 /* Tech News: 2026-14 */ nieuwe subkop 5504155 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>__NEWSECTIONLINK__ __NOINDEX__ {{De_kroeg}}</noinclude> <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Per kalenderjaar:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2004|2004]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2005|2005]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2006|2006]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2007|2007]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2008|2008]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2009|2009]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2010|2010]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011|2011]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2012|2012]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2013|2013]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2014|2014]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2015|2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • <!-- [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2026|2026]] • --> [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|heden]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Werklijst|werklijst]] </div><section end=nav/> == Weergave actuele Franse spellingvarianten == De weerstand tegen de spellingverbetering van 1990 heeft geleid tot een situatie waarin zowel de "traditionele spelling" ''(orthographe traditionnelle)'' als de "verbeterde spelling" ''(orthographe rectifiée)'' worden gebruikt en officiële status hebben. In dit geval is onze gebruikelijke werkwijze met {{Tl|oudeschrijfwijze}} minder passend, temeer omdat vooral in Frankrijk zelf de traditionele spelling nog heel gangbaar is. In het verleden zijn hiervoor de sjablonen "fr-orth-trad" en "fr-orth-rect" aangemaakt, maar deze sjablonen werken niet zo prettig in combinatie met sjablonen die een verbogen of vervoegde vorm beschrijven. Het is typografisch ook wat verwarrend om informatie over schrijfwijzen niet onder dat kopje, maar op de trefwoordregel te geven, die eigenlijk zelf als een kopje is bedoeld. [[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Overleg met Jochenknabben]] die het afgelopen jaar vele duizenden Franse lemma's heeft toegevoegd, heeft een oplossing opgeleverd in de vorm van twee nieuwe sjablonen: {{Tl|-writ-fra-t-}} en {{Tl|-writ-fra-r-}}. Deze zorgen voor een consistente presentatie van informatie over deze spellingvarianten, ook op lemma's met verbogen en vervoegde vormen. Voorbeelden zijn te zien op {{Q|île|fra}}, {{Q|îles|fra}}, {{Q|ile|fra}}, {{Q|iles|fra}}. Dit levert ook een [[:Categorie:Verbeterde spelling Frans van 1990|categorie van woorden uit de verbeterde spelling]] op. Om te zien hoe het in de praktijk werkt, kunnen deze sjablonen op nieuwe lemma's worden gebruikt. Afhankelijk van de reacties hier staat mij voor ogen om over 4 weken om op bestaande pagina's de oude sjablonen door de nieuwe te vervangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:50 (CEST) :{{done}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2025 15:39 (CET) ::In aanvulling op het bovenstaande is ook nog het sjabloon {{Tl|fr-orth}} aangemaakt, dat gebruikt kan worden in de gevallen dat categorisering en het automatisch ingevoegde kopje ongewenst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:34 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-40</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W40"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/40|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * A major software upgrade has been made to [[phab:|Phabricator]]. The update introduces performance improvements, a refreshed search interface, enhancements to Maniphest task search, updates to user profile pages and project workboards, new Herald automation features, as well as general text input, mobile experience improvements and more. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/post/view/321/iterative_improvements_september_2025/] '''Updates for editors''' * The Community Tech team will release the new Community Wishlist extension on October 1, that will improve the way wishes will be submitted. The new extension will allow users to add tags to their wishes to better categorise them, and (in a future iteration) to filter them by status, tags and focus areas. It will also be possible to support individual wishes again, as requested by the community in many instances. The old system will be retired. There will be a brief period of downtime while the extension is deployed and wishes are migrated to the new system. You can read more about this [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/Updates|in the latest update]] or you can consult the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CommunityRequests|current documentation on MediaWiki]]. * As announced [[diffblog:2025/09/02/better-detecting-bots-and-replacing-our-captcha/|on Diff blog]], the production trial of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Anti-abuse signals/hCaptcha|hCaptcha]] service for bot detection has begun. The trial is currently using hCaptcha to protect account creation on Chinese, Persian, Portuguese, Indonesian, Japanese, and Turkish Wikipedias, where it will replace our existing [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:ConfirmEdit#FancyCaptcha|CAPTCHA]] (FancyCaptcha). The goal with the trial is to better block bots while also improving usability and accessibility for users who encounter CAPTCHA challenges. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents]] extension has been [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|deployed]] to Wikimedia Commons. The extension makes it easier to organize and participate in collaborative activities, like edit-a-thons and WikiProjects, on the wikis. On Commons, anyone who is a registered user can use it as an event participant. To use it as an organizer, someone needs to have the [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Event organizers|event organizer right]]. * [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing|Sub-referencing]], a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to German Wikipedia. You can [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#test|test the feature]] on testwiki or [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmcloud.org/wiki/Sub-referencing on betawiki] as well. Please share your thoughts on [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Templates used in sub-references|using templates in sub-references]] or [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Pilot wikis|volunteer to become a pilot wiki]]. * On wikis using the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Mentorship|Mentorship]] system, communities can now opt experienced editors out of Mentorship through [[{{#special:CommunityConfiguration/Mentorship}}]]. Within this setting, communities may define thresholds, based on edit count and account age, to decide when an editor is considered experienced enough to no longer receive Mentorship. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403563] * The Editing Team and the Machine Learning Team are working on a new check for newcomers: [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Tone Check|Tone check]]. Using a prediction model, this check will encourage editors to improve the tone of their edits, using artificial intelligence. We invite volunteers to review the first version of the Tone language model for the following languages: Arabic, Czech, German, Hebrew, Indonesian, Dutch, Polish, Russian, Turkish, Chinese, Farsi, Italian, Norwegian, Romanian and Latvian. Users from these wikis interested in reviewing this model are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit_check/Tone_Check/Model_evaluation|invited to sign up at MediaWiki.org]]. The deadline to sign up is on October 3, which will be the start date of the test. * The rollout of [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Manage blocks|multiblocks]] had the side effect that non-active block logs may have been shown on {{#special:Contributions}} and on blocked users' user and user_talk pages. This issue will be fully resolved in a few days. As part of the fix, [{{fullurl:Special:Allmessages|prefix=sp-contributions-blocked-notice}} messages prefixed with <code>sp-contributions-blocked-notice</code>] will be removed and replaced with [{{fullurl:Special:Allmessages|prefix=blocked-notice-logextract}} those prefixed with <code>blocked-notice-logextract</code>] in a few weeks. Please help translate the new messages and update any local overrides if needed. * There was a bug with links added using visual editor if they included characters such as <code dir=ltr><nowiki>[ ] |</nowiki></code> after the fragment identifier (<code><nowiki>#</nowiki></code>). They were not encoded properly creating an incorrect link. This has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404823] * One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote/en}} in [[d:Q9237|Malay]] ([[q:ms:|<code>q:ms:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404698] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Anti-abuse signals/User Info|User Info Card]] now displays currently active global lock/blocks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401128] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Later this week, editors using Lua modules will be able to use the <code>[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.title.newBatch|mw.title.newBatch]]</code> function to look up the existence of up to 25 pages at once, in a way that only increases the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parser functions#Expensive parser functions|expensive function]] count once. * A new [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|Unsupported Tools Working Group]] has been formed as part of ongoing efforts to collectively determine technical work priorities, similar to the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product & Technology Advisory Council]] (PTAC). The working group will help prioritize and review requests for support of unmaintained extensions, gadgets, bots, and tools. For the first cycle, the group will be prioritizing an unsupported Wikimedia Commons tool. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/40|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W40"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 29 sep 2025 22:53 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29355230 --> == Upcoming Dark Mode user interface rollout for anonymous Wikimedia sites users == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> {{int:Hello}} Wikimedians, Apologies if this message is not in your language. {{int:please-translate}}. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web|Reader Experience team]] will launch the Dark mode feature for anonymous users on all Wikimedia sites, including yours, on October 29, 2025. [[:en:Special:MyLanguage/Light-on-dark color scheme|Dark mode]] is an option that allows users to view pages in light-coloured text, and icons on a dark background. Once it is available for anonymous users, they can enable it when using various devices. More information on ways to enable it can be found on [[:en:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia:Dark mode#Options for anyone|this page]]. Given many pages are still not compatible with dark mode this will be an opt-in feature and not automatically apply to pages. Dark mode requires modifications to content pages and templates, and since our initial launch [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/07/17/dark-modes-bright-future-how-dark-mode-will-transform-wikipedias-accessibility/ in July 2024], we have been working with communities and helping them prepare for dark mode. Before the rollout, it is essential that template authors and technical contributors test dark mode and read [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|this page]] to learn how to make pages Dark mode-ready and address any compatibility issues found in templates. We will fix most color compatibility issues only on the most-viewed pages on projects with over 5 million monthly page views. Technical contributors with an account should opt into dark mode currently using preferences or settings and test pages and seek help before the release to ensure everything complies before the enablement. If you have any questions or need help, please [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading#|contact the Reader Experience team]] for support. Thank you! </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:UOzurumba (WMF)|UOzurumba (WMF)]]</bdi> 30 sep 2025 04:08 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:UOzurumba_(WMF)/sandbox_Dark_mode_deployment_mass_message_list_(October_2025)&oldid=29358561 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-41</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W41"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/41|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#paste|Paste Check]] is a new Edit Check feature to help avoid and fight copyright violations. When editors paste text into an article, Paste Check prompts them to confirm the origin and licensing of the content. Starting Wednesday, 8 October, [[phab:T403680|22 wikis will test Paste Check]]. Paste Check will help new volunteers understand and follow the policies and guidelines necessary to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia projects. '''Updates for editors''' * Mobile devices will receive mobile articles directly on the standard domain (like <code>en.wikipedia.org</code>), instead of via a redirect to an "m" domain (like <code>en.m.wikipedia.org</code>). This change improves performance. This week it will be enabled on Wikipedias. The existing mobile URLs and the "Desktop view" opt-out remain available. [[mw:Requests for comment/Mobile domain sunsetting/2025 Announcement|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998] * New [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:CirrusSearch#creationdate and lasteditdate|date filters]], <code dir=ltr>creationdate:</code> and <code dir=ltr>lasteditdate:</code>, are now available in the wiki search engine. This allows users to filter search results by a page's first or last revision date. The filters support comparison operators (e.g. <code dir=ltr>>2024</code>) and relative dates (e.g. <code dir=ltr>today-1d</code>), making it easier to find recently updated content or pages within specific age ranges. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403593] * [[f:|Wikifunctions]] now supports rich text in embedded calls across the 150 wikis where it's enabled. To showcase this, the team created a [[f:Z26333|Latin declination table]] that Wiktionary editors can use to automatically generate noun forms, producing clear, formatted results — see an [[f:Wikifunctions:Embedded function calls/Wiktionary tables demonstration|example output]]. If you need any help or have any feedback, please [[f:Wikifunctions:Project chat|contact the Wikifunctions Team]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T397402] * An edit link will now appear inside the categories box on article pages for logged in users, which will directly launch the VisualEditor category dialog. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T291691] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:34}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:34|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, there was a problem downloading pdf files last week and that has been resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405957] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The field <code dir=ltr>rev_sha1</code> in the revision database table is being removed in favor of <code dir=ltr>content_sha1</code> in the content database table. See [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/2D2M3SP4WHR6BXXKTZ2PBLZQYR3EGQVR/ the announcement] for more information. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web|Reader Experience team]] will roll out [[w:en:Light-on-dark color scheme|Dark Mode]] user interface on all Wikimedia sites on October 29, 2025. All anonymous users of Wikimedia sites will have the option to activate a color scheme that features light-colored text on a dark background. This is designed to provide a more comfortable reading experience, especially in low-light situations. Template authors and technical contributors are encouraged to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|learn how to make pages ready for Dark mode]] and address any compatibility issues found in templates in their wiki before the enablement. Please contact the Web team for questions or any support on [[mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading#|this talk page]] before the enablement. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395628] * Starting on Monday, October 6, API endpoints under the <code>rest.php</code> path will be rerouted through a new internal API Gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the [[phab:tag/serviceops/|Service Ops team board]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T400130] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.22|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/41|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W41"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 6 okt 2025 19:23 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29400897 --> == haakje openen i haakjesluiten toegevoegd bij het inhoudssjabloon van een lemma na editten en opslaan == er wordt momenteel <nowiki><i></nowiki> toegevoegd aan de ingangen van het inhoud van een lemma als je een artikel edit en weer opslaat. Dit is niet te zien als je artikel aan het editten bent en ook als je niets veranderd gebeurt dat zie bijvoorbeeld het lemma breder. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:30 (CEST) probleem lijkt te zijn opgelost. :Dit probleem werd veroorzaakt door een foutje in een update van de Wikimediaprogrammatuur. Het is ondertussen opgelost. Zie [[Overleg_gebruiker:MarcoSwart#schuin_gedrukte_inhoud|dit overleg]] voor meer details. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 12:47 (CEST) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Have your say: vote for the 2025 Board of Trustees</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> Hello all, The voting period for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|2025 Board of Trustees election]] is now open. Candidates are running for two (2) seats on the Board. To check your voter eligibility, please visit the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Voter eligibility guidelines|voter eligibility page]]. Learn more about them by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidates|reading their application statements and watch their candidacy videos]]. When you are ready, go to the [[m:Special:SecurePoll/vote/405|SecurePoll voting page to vote]]. '''The vote is open from October 8 at 00:00 UTC to October 22 at 23:59 UTC.''' Best regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi<br />Chair, Elections Committee<section end="announcement-content" /> </div> [[Gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 06:49 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:RamzyM (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29360896 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-42</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W42"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/42|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Last week, improvements to account security and two-factor authentication (2FA) features were enabled across all wikis. These changes include user interface improvements for [https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:AccountSecurity Special:AccountSecurity], the support of multiple 2FA methods via authenticator apps and portable security keys (previously users could only enable one method), and a new Recovery Codes module which facilitates fewer account lockouts due to lost two-factor apps and devices. As part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] project, work is continuing through the rest of 2025 on further user experience improvements, and support for passkeys as an alternate second factor. '''Updates for editors''' * Another part of the Account security project is making 2FA generally available to all users. Along with editors with advanced privileges, such as administrators and bureaucrats, 40% of editors now have access to 2FA. You can check if you have access at [https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:AccountSecurity Special:AccountSecurity]. Instructions for activation are on the linked page. The plan is to continue increasing availability if it is determined that the user support capabilities are able to support global usage. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T400579] * This week, users at wikis where talk page [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability|Usability Improvements]] are already available by default (everywhere ''except'' the 12 wikis listed in [[phab:T379264|T379264]]) will gain the ability to Thank a comment directly from the talk page it appears on. Before this change, Thanking could only be done by visiting the revision history of the talk page. You can [[diffblog:2025/10/13/revolutionizing-gratitude-a-new-era-of-thanking-comments/|learn more about this change]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366095] * Users who have not [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal-email|verified their email address]] will soon be receiving monthly Notification reminders to do so. This is because users who have verified their email can more easily recover their account. These reminders will not be sent if the user is inactive or removes the unverified email from their account. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Email_confirmation][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58074] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a fix was made for an occasional error with saving translated paragraphs in the Content Translation tool, and the related error messages are now easier to see. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376531] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The Unsupported Tools Working Group has chosen [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2Commons]] as the first tool for its pilot cycle. The group will explore ways to improve and sustain the tool over the coming months. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|Learn more on Meta]]. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.23|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/42|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W42"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 13 okt 2025 20:59 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29434481 --> == Report concerning User:~2025-28143-59 == [[Special:Contributions/~2025-28143-59|~2025-28143-59]] &ndash; Vandalism. Long-term abuse <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small> --[[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19|Nvdtn19]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Nvdtn19|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 14:05 (CEST) :Deze melding lijkt te berusten op een vergissing door een vandalismebestrijder die geen Nederlands spreekt. Ik heb hem hierop aangesproken via zijn gebruikerspagina. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 15:47 (CEST) == Help ons een naam te kiezen voor Abstract Wikipedia == <section begin="function1"/> {{int:Hello}}! Help ons alsjeblieft een naam te kiezen voor het nieuwe wikiproject Abstract Wikipedia. Dit project wordt een wiki waar gebruikers functies van [[:f:|Wikifuncties]] en gegevens van Wikidata kunnen combineren om zinnen te genereren in alle ondersteunde talen. Deze zinnen kunnen vervolgens worden gebruikt door elke Wikipedia (of elders). Er zullen twee stemrondes zijn, elk gevolgd door een juridische beoordeling van de kandidaten. De stemmingen beginnen op 20 oktober en 17 november 2025. Ons doel is om medio december 2025 een definitieve projectnaam te kiezen. Als je wilt deelnemen, '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|klik dan hier voor meer informatie en stem nu]]''' op meta-wiki. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}} <section end="function1"/> -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 20 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29432175 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-43</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W43"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/43|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * To optimize how user data is stored in our databases, the saved preferences of users who haven't logged in for over five years and have fewer than 100 edits will be cleared. When those users return, default settings will apply. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406724] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, there was a broken link from the GlobalContributions interface message to the XTools GlobalContributions page which has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406415] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The work to reroute all traffic to API endpoints under the <code dir=ltr><nowiki>rest.php</nowiki></code> route through a common API gateway is now complete. If any issues are observed, please file a phabricator ticket to the [[phab:tag/serviceops/|Service Ops team board]]. * Edits to Wikidata references or qualifiers will now be shown in RecentChanges and Watchlist entries on other wikis less often, reducing unnecessary notifications. This will reduce the overall quantity of 'noisy' entries. Wikidata's own pages remain unchanged. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401290] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.24|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/43|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W43"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 20 okt 2025 21:36 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29478670 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-44</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W44"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The Wikipedia iOS app has launched an A/B/C test of improvements made to the tabbed browsing feature for select regions and languages. The test, named “More dynamic tabs”, explores new tab experiences and includes “Did you know” and “Because you read” article recommendations. You can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/Tabbed Browsing (Tabs)/New Tab Experience and Recommendations Experiment|read more on the project page]]. * Autoconfirmed users on [[git:operations/mediawiki-config/+/a2d2aaab9ace84280dd2f4c70a33bb69cd73850f/dblists/small.dblist|small]] and [[git:operations/mediawiki-config/+/a2d2aaab9ace84280dd2f4c70a33bb69cd73850f/dblists/medium.dblist|medium wikis]] with the CampaignEvents extension can now use [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event Center/Registration|Event Registration]] without the Event Organizer right. This feature lets organizers enable registration, manage participants, and lets users register with one click instead of signing event pages. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue of flashing colors when holding or pressing the arrow keys under the dark mode settings in Vector 2022 has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402285] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The CampaignEvents extension will be deployed to all remaining wikis during the week of 17 November 2025. The extension currently includes three features: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation List. For this rollout, Invitation List will not be enabled on Wikifunctions and MediaWiki unless requested by those communities. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|Visit the deployment page to learn more]]. * The SwaggerUI-based REST sandbox experience is now live on all wiki projects. The sandbox can be accessed through the [[{{#special:RestSandbox}}]] page. Please report any issues to the MediaWiki Interfaces team board, or join the discussion on the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Interfaces Team/Feature Feedback/REST Sandbox|project launch]] page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/6931/] * Transform endpoints with a trailing slash path in the MediaWiki REST API are now marked as deprecated. They will remain functional during this time, but removal is expected by the end of January 2026. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found and tested using the [https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?api=mw-extra&title=Special%3ARestSandbox REST Sandbox]. See the [[mw:API/Deprecation|MediaWiki REST API Deprecation]] page for more detailed information about the API deprecation policies and procedures. * A dedicated [[mw:API:REST API/Changelog|changelog now exists for the MediaWiki REST API]]. The changelog provides an overview of these changes, making it easier for developers to keep track of improvements and iterations. Announcements will also continue to flow through the standard communication channels, including Tech News and email distribution lists, but can now be more easily referenced from a central location. If you have feedback about the style, structure, or content of this changelog, please [[mw:API talk:REST API/Changelog|join the discussion]]. * Administrators can delete the tracking category which was previously added by the JsonConfig extension, as it is no longer used. See the categories linked from [[d:Q130635582#sitelinks-wikipedia|Q130635582]]. It is OK if there are still pages listed in the category as that is just a caching issue, and they will be automatically cleared out the next time each page is edited. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T378352] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.25|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W44"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 27 okt 2025 20:31 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29513638 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers. Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages: * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Affiliations Committee|Affiliations Committee (AffCom)]] * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Ombuds commission|Ombuds commission (OC)]] * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Community Resilience and Sustainability/Trust and Safety/Case Review Committee|Case Review Committee (CRC)]] Applications for the committees open on October 30, 2025. Applications for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on December 11, 2025. Learn how to apply by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Committee appointments|visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki]]. Post to the talk page or email cst[[File:At sign.svg|16x16px|link=|(_AT_)]]wikimedia.org with any questions you may have. For the Committee Support team, <section end="announcement-content" /> </div> -[[m:User:MKaur (WMF)| MKaur (WMF)]] 30 okt 2025 15:14 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:MKaur (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29517125 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-45</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W45"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/45|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Administrators will now find that [[{{#special:MergeHistory}}]] is now significantly more flexible about what it can merge. It can now merge sections taken from the middle of the history of the source (rather than only the start) and insert revisions anywhere in the history of the destination page (rather than only the start). [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T382958] * For users with "{{int:discussiontools-preference-autotopicsub}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|enabled in their preferences]], starting a new topic or adding a reply to an existing topic will now subscribe them to replies to that topic. Previously, this would only happen if the DiscussionTools "{{int:Skin-action-addsection}}" or "{{int:Discussiontools-replybutton}}" widgets were used. When DiscussionTools was originally launched existing accounts were not opted in to automatic topic subscriptions, so this change should primarily affect newer accounts and users who have deliberately changed their preferences since that time. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290778] * Scribunto modules can now be used to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#SVG library|generate SVG images]]. This can be used to build charts, graphics and other visualizations dynamically through Lua, reducing the need to compose them externally and upload them as files. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405861] * Wikimedia sites now provide all anonymous users with the option to enable a dark mode color scheme, featuring light-colored text on a dark background. This enhancement aims to deliver a more enjoyable reading experience, especially in dimly lit environments. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395628] * Users with large watchlists have long faced timeouts when editing [[Special:EditWatchlist|Special:EditWatchlist]]. The page now loads entries in smaller sections instead of all at once due to a paging update, allowing everyone to edit their watchlists smoothly. As part of the database update, sorting by expiry has been removed because it was over 100× slower than sorting by title. A [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/W454 community wish] has been created to explore alternative ways to restore sort-by-expiry. If this feature is important to you, please support the wish! [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41510] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the fixing of the persisting highlighting when using VisualEditor find and replace during a query. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T407318] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Since 2019 the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia URL Shortener|Wikimedia URL Shortener]] at https://w.wiki is available for all Wikimedia wikis to create short links to articles, permalinks, diffs, etc. It is available in the sidebar as "Get shortened URL". There are 30 wikis that also install an older "ShortUrl" extension. The old extension will soon be removed. This means <code>/s/</code> URLs will not be advertised under article titles via HTML <code dir=ltr>class="title-shortlink"</code>. The <code>/s/</code> URLs will keep working. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107188] * On Thursday, October 30, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Interfaces Team|MediaWiki Interfaces]] and [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Site Reliability Engineering|SRE Service Operations]] teams began rerouting Action API traffic through a common API gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/serviceops/ Service Ops team] board. * MediaWiki Train deployments will pause for the final two weeks of 2025: 22 December and 29 December. Backport windows will also pause between Monday, 22 December 2025 and Thursday, 2 January 2026. A backport window is a scheduled time to add things like bug fixes and configuration changes. There are seven deployment trains remaining for 2025. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/SMWTEAES4SDLDUSK4HMWNBSKNCXZAWYN/] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.26|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * In 2025, the Wikimedia Foundation reported that AI systems and search engines increasingly use Wikipedia content without driving users to the site, contributing to an 8% drop in human pageviews compared to 2024. After detecting bots disguised as humans, Wikimedia updated its traffic data to reflect this shift. Read more about current user trends on Wikipedia in [[diffblog:2025/10/17/new-user-trends-on-wikipedia/|a Diff blog post]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/45|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W45"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 3 nov 2025 20:34 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29552512 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-46</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W46"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/46|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' [[File:Talk pages default look (April 2023).jpg|thumb|alt=Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages|Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.]] * Starting November 12, users will see a change in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Feature summary#Usability improvements|appearance of talk pages]] on [[Phab:T379264|some Wikipedias]]. Almost [[phab:T392121|all wikis]] have received this design change; [[phab:T409297|English Wikipedia]] will get these changes later. You can read more [[diffblog:2024/05/02/making-talk-pages-better-for-everyone/|on ''Diff'']]. Users can opt out of these changes [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|in their user preferences]] in "{{int:discussiontools-preference-visualenhancements}}". [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T379264] * MediaWiki can now display a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Protection indicators|page indicator]] automatically while a page is protected. This feature is disabled by default. It can be enabled by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Requesting wiki configuration changes|community request]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12347] * Using the "{{int:showpreview}}" or "{{int:showdiff}}" buttons in the wikitext editor will now carry over certain URL parameters like '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parameters to index.php#useskin|useskin]]', '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parameters to index.php#uselang|uselang]]' and '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Section#Editing sections|section]]'. This update also fixes an issue where, if the browser crashed while previewing an edit to a single section, saving this edit could overwrite the entire page with just that section’s content. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62744][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24029][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155097] * Wikivoyage wikis can use [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Kartographer#Markers and counters|colored map markers in the article text]]. The text of these markers will now be shown in contrasting black or white color, instead of always being white. Local workarounds for the problem can be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T369454] * The Activity tab in the Wikipedia Android app is now available for all users. The new tab offers personalized insights into reading, editing, and donation activity, while simplifying navigation and making app use more engaging. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/Activity_Tab_Experiment] * The Reader Growth team is launching an experiment called "Image browsing" to test how to make it easier for readers to browse and discover images on Wikipedia articles. This experiment, a mobile-only A/B test, will go live on English Wikipedia in the week of November 17 and will run for four weeks, affecting 0.05% of users on English wiki. The test launched on November 3 on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese wikis, affecting up to 10% of users on those wikis. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Reader_Growth/WE3.1.3_Image_Browsing] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:27}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:27|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example the inability to lock accounts on mobile sites has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256185] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[wikitech:Help talk:Toolforge/Toolforge standards committee#November 2025 committee nominations|Nominations are open on Wikitech]] for new [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Toolforge standards committee|Toolforge standards committee]] members. The committee oversees the Toolforge [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Right to fork policy|Right to fork policy]] and [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Abandoned tool policy|Abandoned tool policy]] among other duties. Nominations will remain open through 2025-11-28. * The [[w:JSON Web Token#Standard fields|JWT issuer field]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/For Developers#OAuth 2|OAuth 2 access tokens]] for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|SUL wikis]] has been changed to <code><nowiki>https://meta.wikimedia.org</nowiki></code>. Old access tokens will still work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399199] * The [[w:JSON Web Token#Standard fields|JWT subject field]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/For Developers#OAuth 2|OAuth 2 access tokens]] will soon change from <code><user id></code> to <code dir=ltr style="white-space:nowrap">mw:<identity type>:<user id></code>, where <code><identity type></code> is typically <code dir=ltr>CentralAuth:</code><!-- not a typo --> (for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|SUL wikis]]) or <code dir=ltr style="white-space:nowrap">local:<wiki id></code> (for other wikis). This is to avoid conflicts between different user ID types, and to make OAuth 2 access tokens and the <code>sessionJwt</code> cookie more similar. Old access tokens will still work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399199] * MediaWiki's block messages ([[MediaWiki:Blockedtext|blockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext-partial|blockedtext-partial]], [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext|autoblockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Systemblockedtext|systemblockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext-tempuser|blockedtext-tempuser]], [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext-tempuser|autoblockedtext-tempuser]]) now support additional parameters indicating whether the user is blocked from editing their own user talk page <code><nowiki>$9</nowiki></code> or emailing other users <code><nowiki>$</nowiki><nowiki>10</nowiki></code>. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285612] * A <code>REL1_45</code> branch for MediaWiki core and each of the extensions and skins in Wikimedia git has been created. This is the first step in the release process for MediaWiki 1.45.0, scheduled for late November 2025. If you are working on a critical bug fix or working on a new feature, you may need to take note of this change. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/ZUY7TY3Z6XPZWZVAZV63OPO5OW52Q6GE/] * The process for generating CirrusSearch dumps has been updated due to slowing performance. If you encounter any issues migrating to the replacement dumps, please contact the Search Platform Team for support. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366248][https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/3KQPOR6ACVN6OVLMLZPIBXQSWQKW4E3K/] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.2|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/46|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W46"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 10 nov 2025 21:38 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29606150 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-47</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W47"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/47|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|Reader Experience team]] is experimenting with [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience/WE3.3.4_Reading lists|reading lists on mobile web]], allowing logged-in readers with no edits to save private lists of articles for later. The experiment is running on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias since the week of 10 November, and will begin on English Wikipedia the week of 17 November. * Users who can’t receive their email verification code during login can now get help by submitting a form on a new special page. This update is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] initiative. If your account has an email address, please make sure you still have access to it. When logging in from a new device or location without 2FA, you may be asked to enter a 6-digit code sent by email to finish logging in. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security#Why are you requiring me to enter a code from my email to log in? Can I opt out of this?|Learn more]]. * One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikisource}} in [[d:Q13324|Minangkabau]] ([[s:min:|<code>s:min:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408317] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * As part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser Unification|Parser Unification]] project, the Content Transform Team rolled out Parsoid as the default parser to many low-traffic Wikipedias and is preparing the next step to high traffic ones. This message is an invitation for you to opt-in to Parsoid, as described in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserMigration|Extension:ParserMigration]] documentation, and identify any issues you might encounter with your own workflow using bots, gadgets, or user scripts. Please, let us know through the ''"Report Visual Bug"'' link in the Tools sidebar or create a phab ticket and tag the [[phab:project/view/5846|Content Transform Team in Phabricator]]. * Unsupported Tools: Several issues with [[:c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2Commons]] have been fixed, including filename-related upload failures, black-video imports, and retry handling. AV1 support has also been added. Ongoing work focuses on backend stability, ffmpeg errors, subtitle imports, metadata handling, and playlist uploads. To track specific tasks, check the [[phab:tag/video2commons/|Phabricator board]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.3|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * Save the date for the next Wikimedia Hackathon happening in Milan, Italy from May 1–3, 2026. Registration will open in January 2026. [https://pretix.eu/wikimedia/Hackathon-2026/ Scholarship applications are currently open], and will close on November 28, 2025. If you have any questions, please email <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">hackathon@wikimedia.org</bdi>. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/47|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W47"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 17 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29627455 --> == Herinnering: Help ons een naam te kiezen voor Abstract Wikipedia == <section begin="function2"/> {{int:Hello}}! Herinnering: help ons alsjeblieft bij het kiezen van een naam voor het nieuwe wikiproject Abstract Wikipedia. De stemming over de finalisten begint vandaag. De finalisten voor de naam zijn: <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Abstract Wikipedia, Multilingual Wikipedia, Wikiabstracts, Wikigenerator, Proto-Wiki</span>. Als je wilt deelnemen, '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|klik dan hier voor meer informatie en stem nu]]''' op meta-wiki. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}} <section end="function2"/> -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 20 nov 2025 15:23 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29583860 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-48</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W48"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/48|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Last week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Search Platform|Wikimedia Search Team]] recreated the "DWIM" (Do What I Mean) gadget functionality server-side, for Russian and Hebrew Wikipedias. This feature adds cross-keyboard suggestions to the standard search-box suggestions. For example, searching for ''<span lang="und" dir="ltr">cxfcnmt</span>'' on Russian Wikipedia will now add suggestions for ''<span lang="ru" dir="ltr">счастье</span>'' ("happiness") that the user probably intended. They plan to enable this feature for other Russian and Hebrew wikis this week. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408734] * Later this week, users of the "{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]] will have syntax highlighting available in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]]. This requires that the "{{int:discussiontools-preference-sourcemodetoolbar}}" preference be set. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T407918] * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|Campaign events extension]] – the set of tools for coordinating events and other on-wiki collaborations has now been deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. A new feature known as [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Collaborative contributions|Collaborative contribution]] to help organizers and participants see the impact of activities has also been added. Join the upcoming [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event:Connection learning session 3|learning session]] to see the new feature in action and share your feedback. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:24}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:24|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug which stopped CodeReviewBot from working, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410417] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Users of Wikimedia API can join a usability study to help validate the new design of Wikimedia REST API sandboxes. Interested participants should fill the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/487662 recruitment survey]. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/IREJRRWTZTGCYWQHDMSNJFTQAEPOOAE3/] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is deprecating XSLT stylesheets within the Action API. Support for <code dir=ltr>format=xml'''&xlst={stylesheet}'''</code> will be removed from Wikimedia projects by the end of November, 2025. In addition, it will soon be disabled by default in MediaWiki release versions: v1.43 (LTS), v1.44, and v1.45. Support for XSLT stylesheets will be fully removed from MediaWiki v1.46 (expected to release between April and May 2026). [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/5AX7UWAVVUNUSBOIRHMNOKWOZ5EZI3JX/] * The WDQS legacy endpoint ([https://query-legacy-full.wikidata.org/ query-legacy-full.wikidata.org]) will be decommissioned at the end of December 2025, and finally closed down on 7th January 2026. After this date, users should expect requests to query.wikidata.org that require the full graph to fail or return invalid results if they are not rewritten to use SPARQL federation. The team encourages users to ensure that tools and workflows use the supported WDQS endpoints (<span dir=ltr><nowiki>https://query.wikidata.org/</nowiki></span> - Main graph or <span dir=ltr><nowiki>https://query-scholarly.wikidata.org/</nowiki></span> - Scholarly graph). For support with migrating use cases, please review the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Data_access|Data Access]] and [[d:Wikidata:Request_a_query|Request a Query]] pages for details and assistance on alternative access methods. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.4|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/48|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W48"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 24 nov 2025 16:56 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29702226 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-49</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W49"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/49|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The Wikipedia Year in Review 2025 will be available on December 2 for users of iOS and Android Wikipedia apps, featuring new personalized insights, updated reading highlights, and refreshed designs. Learn more on the review's [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Wikipedia Year in Review/Updates|project page]]. * The Growth team is working on improving the text and presentation of the Verification Email sent to new users to make them more welcoming, useful and informative. Some new text have been drafted for A/B testing and you can help by translating them. See [[phab:T396155|Phabricator]]. * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]] will now be deployed at Japanese, Urdu and Chinese Wikipedias on December 2. Add a link is based on a prediction model that suggests links to be added to articles. While this feature has already been available on most Wikipedias, the prediction model could not support certain languages. A new model has now been developed to handle these languages, and it will be gradually rolled out to other Wikipedias over time. If you would like to know more, please contact [[mw:user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek (WMF)]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:34}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:34|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where search boxes on some Commons pages showed no results due to switch from SpecialSearch to MediaSearch, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399476] * Two new wikis have been created: ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q36846|Toki Pona]] ([[w:tok:|<code>w:tok:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404457] ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote}} in [[d:Q33655|Nigerian Pidgin]] ([[q:pcm:|<code>q:pcm:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408318] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.5|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The Wikimedia Foundation is in the early stages of exploring approaches to '''Article guidance'''. The initiative aims to identify interventions that could help new editors easily understand and apply existing Wikipedia practices and policies when creating an article. The project is in the exploration and early experimental design phase. All community members are encouraged to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|learn more]] about the project, and share their thoughts on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Article guidance|the talk page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/49|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W49"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 1 dec 2025 19:58 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29732328 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-50</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W50"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/50|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Anybody who wishes to secure their user account can now use [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Two-factor authentication|two-factor authentication]] (2FA). This is available to all registered users of all Wikimedia projects. This is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] initiative. Later, 2FA will be required for all users who can take security- or privacy-sensitive actions. '''Updates for editors''' * Following last week's deployments, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]] feature, which allows editors to add suggested links during editing, will be available to an additional [[Phab:T410469|33 Wikipedias]] starting on 9 December. This expansion is possible thanks to the new prediction model that now supports all languages, including those that were previously not covered. While the feature has been available on most Wikipedias for some time, this rollout brings us closer to using the improved model everywhere. If you have any questions or would like more details please contact [[mw:user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek (WMF)]]. * Last week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Search Platform|Search Platform team]] added [[w:en:Transliteration|transliterated]] as-you-type search suggestions to Georgian wikis. If there are only a few regular search suggestions, then queries in Latin or Cyrillic script [[phab:T127003|are now rewritten into Georgian script]] to look for more matches. For example, searching for either <bdi lang="ka-Latn" dir="ltr">''bedniereba''</bdi> or <bdi lang="ka-Cyrl" dir="ltr">''бедниереба''</bdi> will now suggest the existing article about <bdi lang="ka" dir="ltr">ბედნიერება</bdi> ("happiness"). You can recommend other languages where transliterated suggestions would be useful [[phab:T375215|on Phabricator]] for future development. * Later this week, a controlled experiment will begin for editors on the 100 largest Wikipedias who are editing a section in the mobile web visual editor. 50% of these editors will notice a new "Edit full page" button that will enable them to expand their editing session to the whole page. This feature is intended to make it easier for people on mobile web to edit any article section, regardless of which section-edit icon they tapped to begin. The experiment will last ~4 weeks. You can find [[phab:T409112|more details]] about the project. * Later this week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth|Reader Growth team]] will launch a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth/WE3.1.14 Expanded Mobile Sections|mobile web experiment]] to expand all article sections by default (currently they are collapsed by default) and pin the section header the user is currently reading to the top of the page. The experiment will affect 10% of users on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409485] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Wikipedia Year in Review/2025 Year in Review|Wikipedia Year in Review 2025]], a feature in the Wikipedia mobile apps (iOS and Android) that provides users with a personalised summary of their engagement with Wikipedia over the year, is now available on the iOS and Android apps. This edition includes expanded personalised insights, improved reading highlights, new donor messaging, and updated designs. Open the app to view your Year in Review and explore your reading journey from 2025. * A recent software bug caused edits made with VisualEditor to make unintended changes to wikitext, including removing whitespace and replacing spaces with underscores in wikilinks inside citations. This was partially fixed last week, and further fixes are in progress. Editors who used VisualEditor between November 28 and December 2 should review their edits for unexpected modifications. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411238] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the incorrect handling of URLs copied from the address bar of Microsoft Edge users, has been resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341281] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Starting this week, users of the "{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]] will have [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] as the editor for Lua, JavaScript, CSS, JSON and Vue content models, instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]]. With this, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Linting|linters]] will be upgraded. This is part of a larger effort to eventually replace CodeEditor and provide a consistent code editing experience. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373711] * Developers are encouraged to take the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/552643 2025 Developer Satisfaction Survey], which remains open until 5 January 2026. If you build software for the Wikimedia ecosystem and would like to share your experiences or feedback, your participation is greatly appreciated. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/W4WBKO6Q55UWWCCSFWQATKEXBEHP3QNR/] * There is no new MediaWiki version this week. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/50|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W50"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 8 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29738112 --> == Miljonairs == Nadat we twee weken terug de mijlpaal van 600.000 pagina's met een Nederlands woord bereikten, is WikiWoordenboek ergens gisterenmiddag rond 17.14 uur het miljoen pagina's in de hoofdnaamruimte gepasseerd. Omdat er wel eens wat wordt gesomberd over de toekomst van het Nederlands: onze taal behoort nu tot de 6 talen die zowel een Wikipedia als een Wiktionary met meer dan 1 miljoen pagina's hebben (Engels, Frans, Duits, Chinees, Russisch en Nederlands). Ik verwacht dat het Zweeds zich komend jaar bij die groep gaat voegen. Terugtellend kom ik uit bij de [[muurzwelmossen]] als miljoenste woord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 07:41 (CET) :Op zich heel mooi (best wonderlijk ook dat de projecten in het Spaans en Portugees wat dit betreft blijkbaar nog achterlopen op het Nederlands, terwijl dat wereldwijd bezien veel grotere talen zijn), maar toch hecht ik zelf vooral aan het verbeteren van de inhoudelijke kwaliteit. :Verder wat het pure aantal betreft: het is me al veel langer opgevallen dat er erg veel import vanaf WP hierheen plaatsvindt, vooral van dierenartikelen (op WP zijn die eerder meestal massaal aangemaakt met een gebruikersbot, en over de inhoudelijke betrouwbaarheid is nog altijd geregeld discussie op WP). Daar is de huidige 1 miljoen dus vooral aan te danken. Wie voelt er iets voor een deelproject om die artikelen hier deels te herschrijven, bijvoorbeeld met een originelere definitie en waar nodig vooral lexicologische aanvullingen? (De definitie is nu nog heel vaak een letterlijk gekopieerde WP-intro.) :Een ander nu heel belangrijk verbeterpunt is het verder aanvullen van veel bestaande pagina's. Nu wordt een woord dat soms in tientallen talen dezelfde vorm heeft, hier vaak nog steeds alleen in het Nederlands beschreven. Ik heb zelf vooral kennis van de grotere Indo-Europese talen (Engels, Frans, Duits) maar niet van de meeste minder bekende talen. Het devies is, lijkt mij, zorgen dat er meer "externe krachten" hier actief worden. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 11:56 (CET) ::Met je slotzin ben ik het eens. Het helpt daarbij als we de mensen die hier lemma's toevoegen laten blijken dat we hun inspanning op prijs stellen en af en toe ook samen bereikte resultaten vieren. ::De lemma's over dieren vormen overigens maar enkele procenten van het miljoen pagina's. Inhoudelijk zijn ze in de regel prima in orde, wellicht omdat ze juist ''niet'' klakkeloos zijn overgenomen. Ik pas vrijwel dagelijks omschrijvingen aan zodat ze meer in een woordenboek passen, maar dat geldt niet alleen voor dieren, maar ook voor tal van andere lemma's. Maar er is nog veel te doen. Ik ben vooral blij dat er het afgelopen jaar heel wat nieuwe bewerkers bij zijn gekomen, waardoor we deze mijlpaal veel eerder bereiken dan ik een jaar terug had gedacht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 23:12 (CET) : Een mooie mijlpaal, gefeliciteerd allen! Ik hou me vooralsnog vooral bezig met het toevoegen van Nederlandse lemmata aan en.wikt, maar het Nederlandse Wikiwoordenboek is daarbij een enorme steun. [[Gebruiker:Mnemosientje|Mnemosientje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mnemosientje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 13:14 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-51</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W51"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/51|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:18}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:18|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, one of the fixes addressed an issue for temporary accounts adding an external URL, which triggered an hCaptcha request in more cases than intended, and did not display the required popup on the first attempt to publish the edit. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411927] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * To improve database and site performance, external links to Wikimedia projects will no longer be stored in the database. This means they will not be searchable in [[{{#special:LinkSearch}}]], will not be checked by the Spam Blacklist or AbuseFilter as new links, and will not be in the <code dir=ltr>externallinks</code> table on database replicas. In the future this may be extended to other highly-linked trusted websites on a per-wiki basis, such as Creative Commons links on Wikimedia Commons. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405005] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.7|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/51|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W51"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 15 dec 2025 20:03 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29796010 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-52</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W52"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/52|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * From January, edit filters [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter/Access flags|can be set]] to automatically suppress their details such as rules and list of attempted edits and actions. This will help oversighters use edit filters to prevent doxxing or other suppressible material. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290324] * The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 12 January 2026 because of the end of year holidays. Thank you to all of the translators, and people who submitted content or feedback, this year. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:16}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:16|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the crash that occurred when tapping "First Steps" in the Wikipedia Android Year in Review has now been fixed, and the feature opens as expected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411546] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Interface elements such as diffs and categories generated by MediaWiki used to have the attribute <code dir=ltr>data-mw="interface"</code> to distinguish from wiki content. The attribute has been replaced with <code dir=ltr>data-mw-interface=""</code>, to avoid potential conflicts with other <code dir=ltr>data-mw</code> attributes, which are generated by Parsoid. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409187] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week. '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026|Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026]] will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications just opened mid-December and will close in mid-January or earlier if capacity is reached. With space for approximately 100 participants, early application is encouraged. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/52|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W52"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 22 dec 2025 22:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29831856 --> == Van Dale is gestopt met zijn gratis online woordenboek == Vanaf 10 december is het gratis aanbod op de site van Van Dale beperkt tot het puzzelwoordenboek en het rijmwoordenboek. Als reden wordt opgegeven dat Van Dale zijn gebruikers een betere taalervaring wil bieden: zonder advertenties, zonder afleiding en met toegang tot alle functies die nodig zijn. Het gratis woordenboek werd vaak verward met de Dikke Van Dale, maar bood maar een beperkte selectie van woorden, met een duidelijk kleinere omvang dan WikiWoordenboek. Het alternatief is nu een betaald abonnement van € 81,75 per jaar voor de Dikke Van Dale of van € 5,44 per jaar voor de versie voor onderwijs NT2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 14:09 (CET) == Report concerning User:~2026-14769-0 == [[Special:Contributions/~2026-14769-0|~2026-14769-0]] &ndash; Vandalism <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small> --[[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 00:10 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-03</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W03"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/03|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Product & Technology OKRs|Meta]] and ''[[diffblog:2025/12/10/shaping-wikimedia-foundations-2026-2027-annual-goals-key-questions-for-the-wikimedia-movement/|Diff]]''. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on the [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. '''Updates for editors''' * As part of the current work of Community Tech team on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/W372|Multiple watchlists]] project, the display of [[Special:EditWatchlist|EditWatchlist]] will be updated as a first step towards multiple watchlists. Additionally, the pagination on [[Special:Search|Search]] will be updated too, as a part of the work on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/W186|Revamp pagination / page navigation]] wish. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411596] * [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|The Global Watchlist]] is a MediaWiki [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] that lets you see your watchlists from different wikis on the same page. It was recently updated to look more like the regular [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlist]], such as preparing it for temporary accounts in IP masking (including rerouting user links to contributions pages), making page titles bold, and opening links in edit summaries and tags in new browser tabs. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T398361][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T298919][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273526][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286309] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where global blocks did not have the option to disable sending emails, has now been fixed, and will be available for use in the week of January 13. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401293] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Citation tool|VisualEditor citation tool]] and [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Reference Previews|Reference Previews]] now support "map" as a reference type. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411083] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.10|MediaWiki]]/[[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.11|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/03|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W03"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 12 jan 2026 20:33 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29907192 --> == Thank You for Last Year – Join Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 == Dear Wikimedia communities, We hope you are doing well, and we wish you a happy New Year. ''Last year, we captured light. This year, we’ll capture legacy.'' In 2025, communities around the world shared the glow of Ramadan nights and the warmth of collective iftars. In 2026, ''Wiki Loves Ramadan'' is expanding, bringing more stories, more cultures, and deeper global connections across Wikimedia projects. We invite you to explore the ''Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026'' [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026|Meta page]] to learn how you can participate and [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026/Participating communities|sign up]] your community. 📷 ''Photo campaign on '' [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026|Wikimedia Commons]] If you have questions about the project, please refer to the FAQs: * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan/FAQ/|Meta-Wiki]] * [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki Loves Ramadan/FAQ|Wikimedia Commons]] ''Early registration for updates is now open via the '''[[m:Special:RegisterForEvent/2710|Event page]]''''' ''Stay connected and receive updates:'' * [https://t.me/WikiLovesRamadan Telegram channel] * [https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikilovesramadan.lists.wikimedia.org/ Mailing list] We look forward to collaborating with you and your community. '''The Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 Organizing Team''' 16 jan 2026 20:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:ZI Jony@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Non-Technical_Village_Pumps_distribution_list&oldid=29879549 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-04</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W04"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/04|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The tray shown on [[Special:Diff|Special:Diff]] in mobile view has been redesigned. It is now collapsed by default, and incorporates a link to undo the edit being viewed, making it easier for mobile editors and reviewers to take action while keeping the interface uncluttered. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402297] * [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|The Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] continues to improve — it now automatically determines the text direction (ensuring correct display of sites with unusual domain names) and shows detailed descriptions for log actions. Later this week, a new permanent link for page creations and CSS classes for each entry element will be added. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T412505][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T287929][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262768][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414135] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:32}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:32|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the previously observed issue in Vector 2022, where anchor link targets were obscured by the sticky header, has now been addressed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406114] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * As mentioned in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|October 2025 deprecation announcement]], MediaWiki Interfaces team will begin sunsetting all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from the MediaWiki REST API the week of January 26. Changes are expected to roll out to all wikis on or before January 30th. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found, compared, and tested using the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox]. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in Phabricator to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/6931/ #MW-Interfaces-Team board]. * Interactive reference documentation for the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia REST API|Wikimedia REST API]] has moved. Requests to API docs previously hosted through [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/RESTBase|RESTBase]] (e.g.: <code dir=ltr>https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/</code>) are now redirected to the [[w:en:Special:RestSandbox|REST Sandbox]]. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata Platform|WMF Wikidata Platform team]] (WDP) has published its [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Wikidata Platform team/Newsletter|January 2026 newsletter]]. It includes updates on the legacy full-graph endpoint decommissioning, the User-Agent policy change, the monthly Blazegraph migration office hours, and efforts to reduce regressions caused by the legacy endpoint shutdown. As a reminder, you can [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Global message delivery/Targets/WDP team updates|subscribe to the WDP newsletter]]! * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.12|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026|Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026]] will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications opened mid-December and will close soon or when capacity is reached. It's a two-day, technically oriented hackathon bringing together Wikimedians from the region. Hope to see you there! '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/04|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W04"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 19 jan 2026 21:29 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29943403 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Annual review of the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> I am writing to you to let you know the annual review period for the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines is open now. You can make suggestions for changes through 9 February 2026. This is the first step of several to be taken for the annual review. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Annual review/2026|Read more information and find a conversation to join on the UCoC page on Meta]]. The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. This annual review was planned and implemented by the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|you may review the U4C Charter]]. Please share this information with other members in your community wherever else might be appropriate. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]])<section end="announcement-content" /> </div> 19 jan 2026 22:02 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Keegan (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29905753 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-05</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W05"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/05|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia Foundation invites comments on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Year1 Reflections and Proposed Way Forward 2026 Update|proposed future]] of the [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product and Technology Advisory Council]] until 28 February. * All users with registered accounts can now use passkeys for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Two-factor authentication|two-factor authentication]] (2FA). Passkeys are a simple way to log in without using a second device. They verify the user's identity using a fingerprint, face scan, or a PIN code. To set up a passkey, first set up a regular 2FA method. Currently, to log in with a passkey, users must also use a password. Later this quarter, passwordless login will allow users to log in with a single click and a passkey. Users with advanced rights will also be required to have 2FA enabled. This is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] project. * Unregistered contributors on blocked IPs or blocked IP ranges can now interact on-wiki to appeal a block by creating a temporary account to appeal a block on the user talk page, unless the "prevent this user from editing their own talk page" is enabled. This solves the problem of logged-out users unable to use the default unblock process via user talk page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T398673] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) methods description on the management page has been updated. It is now clearer and easier for users to understand and make use of. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332385] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new AbuseFilter variable, <code>account_type</code>, has been added to provide a reliable way to determine the account type being created in the <code>createaccount</code> and <code>autocreateaccount</code> actions. As part of this change, the variable <code>accountname</code> has been renamed to <code>account_name</code>, and <code>accountname</code> is now deprecated. Edit filter managers should update any filters that use hardcoded account type checks or the deprecated variable. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414049] * Image thumbnails that are requested in non-standard sizes, and using non-standard methods such as direct requests to <code dir=ltr><nowiki>upload.wikimedia.org/…</nowiki></code> will stop working in the near future. This change is to prevent ongoing external abuse by web-scrapers and bots. Some users with custom CSS/JS, Interface Admins who can fix gadgets and local skins, and Tool-authors, will need to update their code to use standard thumbnail sizes. [[phab:T414805|Details, search-links, and examples of how to fix them, are available in the task]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.13|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/05|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W05"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 26 jan 2026 22:17 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29969530 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-06</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W06"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/06|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The "{{int:pageinfo-toolboxlink}}" feature, which gives validating information about a page ([{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=info}} example]), now automatically includes a table of contents. If there is a local [[{{ns:8}}:Pageinfo-header]] page created by individual users, it can now be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363726] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, VisualEditor previously added bold or italic formatting inside link descriptions, making the wikicode complex. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409669] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * There was no XML dump on 20 January. Additionally, from now on, dumps will be generated once per month only. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414389] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team removed support for all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/API:REST%20API MediaWiki REST API]. All API users currently calling those endpoints are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in phabricator to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/6931/ #MW-Interfaces-Team board]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.14|MediaWiki]] '''Weekly highlight''' * Users are reminded that the Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Product & Technology OKRs|Meta]] and ''[[diffblog:2025/12/10/shaping-wikimedia-foundations-2026-2027-annual-goals-key-questions-for-the-wikimedia-movement/|Diff]]''. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on the [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/06|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W06"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 2 feb 2026 18:43 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30000986 --> == Toegang tot Ensie == Zouden WikiWoordenboekvrienden toegang kunnen krijgen tot https://www.ensie.nl? Blijkbaar hebben onderwijsinstellingen toegang? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 8 feb 2026 17:53 (CET) :Voor zover ik kan nagaan gaat het daarbij om betaalde abonnementen per instelling. Misschien kunnen Wikimedia België en Wikimedia Nederland een gezamenlijk zo'n instellingsabonnement afsluiten. Je zou ook kunnen kijken of ENSIE kan worden opgenomen in de [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/?next_url=/search/?q= Wikipedia Library]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 14:04 (CET) ::Ensie kopieert zelf geregeld vanaf o.a. dit project en Wikipedia. Het lijkt me dus niet echt nodig om hier een speciale externe link of zo van te maken (je creëert dan immers voornamelijk ''cirkelverwijzingen''), hooguit kan er misschien in bepaalde gevallen naartoe worden gelinkt als dat echt iets van meerwaarde oplevert. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 13:03 (CET) :::De vraag ging - denk ik - alleen maar over de mogelijkheid om ENSIE te raadplegen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-07</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W07"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/07|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * [[File:Maki-gift-15.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Wishlist item]] Logged-in contributors who manage large or complex watchlists can now organise and filter watched pages in ways that improve their workflows with the new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Watchlist labels|Watchlist labels]] feature. By adding custom labels (for example: pages you created, pages being monitored for vandalism, or discussion pages) users can more quickly identify what needs attention, reduce cognitive load, and respond more efficiently. This improves watchlist usability, especially for highly active editors. * A new feature available on [[Special:Contributions|Special:Contributions]] shows [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] that are likely operated by the same person, and so makes patrolling less time-consuming. Upon checking contributions of a temporary account, users with access to temporary account IP addresses can now see a view of contributions from the related temporary accounts. The feature looks up all the IPs associated with a given temporary account within the data retention period and shows all the contributions of all temporary accounts that have used these IPs. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts#February 2026: Improvements to the patroller tooling|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415674] * When editors preview a wikitext edit, the reminder box that they are only seeing a preview (which is shown at the top), now has a grey/neutral background instead of a yellow/warning background. This makes it easier to distinguish preview notes from actual warnings (for example, edit conflicts or problematic redirect targets), which will now be shown in separate warning or error boxes. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414742] * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] continues to improve — it now properly supports more than one Wikibase site, for example both [[d:|Wikidata]] and [[testwikidata:|testwikidata]]. In addition, issues regarding text direction have been fixed for users who prefer Wikidata or other Wikibase sites in right-to-left (RTL) languages. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415440][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415458] * The automatic "magic links" for ISBN, RFC, and PMID numbers have been [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic links|deprecated in wikitext since 2021]] due to inflexibility and difficulties with localization. Several wikis have successfully replaced RFC and PMID magic links with equivalent external links, but a template was often required to replace the functionality of the ISBN magic link. There is now a new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic words#isbn|built-in parser function]] <code dir=ltr><nowiki>{{#isbn}}</nowiki></code> available to replace the basic functionality of the ISBN magic link. This makes it easier for wikis who wish to migrate off of the deprecated magic link functionality to do so. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145604] * Two new wikis have been created: ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q35401|Jju]] ([[w:kaj:|<code>w:kaj:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413283] ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q1186896|Nawat]] ([[w:ppl:|<code>w:ppl:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413273] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new global user group has been created: [[{{int:grouppage-local-bot}}|{{int:group-local-bot}}]]. It will be used internally by the software to allow community bots to bypass rate limits that are applied to abusive [[w:en:Web scraping|web scrapers]]. Accounts that are approved as bots on at least one Wikimedia wiki will be automatically added to this group. It will not change what user permissions the bot has. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415588] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.15|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Spring 2026|MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference, Spring 2026]] will be held March 25–27 in Salt Lake City, USA. This event is organized by and for the third-party MediaWiki community. You can propose sessions and register to attend. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/AZBWVI46SDEB65PGR5J6E4TYOQQEZXM7/] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/07|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W07"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 10 feb 2026 00:30 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30026671 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-08</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W08"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/08|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Site Reliability Engineering|SRE Team]] will be performing a cleanup of Wikimedia's [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Etherpad|Etherpad]] instance, the web-based editor for real-time collaborative document editing. All pads will be permanently deleted after 30 April, 2026 – if there are still migration projects in progress at that point the team can revisit the date on a case by case basis. Please create local backups of any content you wish to keep, as deleted data cannot be recovered. This cleanup helps reduce database size and minimize infrastructure footprint. Etherpad will continue to support real-time collaboration, but long-term storage should not be expected. Additional cleanups may occur in the future without prior notice. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415237] '''Updates for editors''' * The Information Retrieval team will be launching an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Information Retrieval/Phase 1|Android mobile app experiment]] that tests hybrid search capabilities which can handle both semantic and keyword queries. The improvement of on-platform search will enable readers to find what they’re looking for directly on Wikipedia more easily. The experiment will first be launched on Greek Wikipedia in late February, followed by English, French, and Portuguese in March. [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2026/01/08/semantic-search-making-it-easier-to-find-the-information-readers-want/ Read more] on Diff blog. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Information_Retrieval] * The Reader Growth team will run [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth/WE3.10.2 Mobile Table of Contents|an experiment]] for mobile web users, that adds a table of contents and automatically expands all article sections, to learn more about navigation issues they face. The test will be available on Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. * Previously, site notices ([[{{ns:8}}:Sitenotice]] and [[{{ns:8}}:Anonnotice]]) would only render on the desktop site. Now, they will render on all platforms. Users on mobile web will now see these notices and be informed. Site administrators should be prepared to test and fix notices on mobile devices to avoid interference with articles. To opt out, interface admins can add <code dir="ltr">#siteNotice { display: none; }</code> to [[{{ns:8}}:Minerva.css]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138572][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416644] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:19}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:19|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, an issue on [[Special:RecentChanges|Special:RecentChanges]] has been fixed. Previously, clicking hide in the active filters caused the "view new changes since…" button to disappear, though it should have remained visible. The button now behaves as expected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406339] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * New documentation is now available to help editors debug on-site search features. It supports troubleshooting when pages do not appear in results, when ranking seems unexpected, and when you need to inspect what content is being indexed, helping make search behavior easier to understand and analyze. [[mw:Help:CirrusSearch/Debug|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411169] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.16|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/08|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W08"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16 feb 2026 20:17 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30086330 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-09</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W09"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/09|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Reference Check|Reference Check]] has been deployed to English Wikipedia, completing its rollout across all Wikipedias. The feature prompts newcomers to add a citation before publishing new content, helping reduce common citation-related reverts and improve verifiability. In A/B testing, the impact was substantial: newcomers shown Reference Check were approximately 2.2 times more likely to include a reference on desktop and about 17.5 times more likely on mobile web. [https://analytics.wikimedia.org/published/reports/editing/reference_check_ab_test_report_final_2025.html] '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:InterwikiSorting|InterwikiSorting extension]], which allowed for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Interwiki sorting order|sorting of interwiki links]], has been undeployed from Wikipedia. As a result, editors who had enabled interwiki link sorting in non-compact mode (full list format) will now see links reordered. The links moving forward will be listed in the alphabetical order of language code. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253764] * Later this week, people who are editing a page-section using the mobile visual editor, will notice a new "Edit full page" button. When tapped, you will be able to edit the entire article. This helps when the change you want to make is outside the section you initially opened. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T387175][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409112] * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|The Reader Experience team]] is inviting editors to assess whether dark mode should still be considered "beta" on their wiki, based on their experience of how well it functions on desktop and mobile. If the feature is deemed mature, editors can update the interface messages in <code dir=ltr>MediaWiki:skin-theme-description</code> and <code dir=ltr>MediaWiki:Vector-night-mode-beta-tag</code> to indicate that dark mode is ready and no longer considered beta. * The improved [[mw:Wikimedia_Apps/Team/iOS/Activity_Tab|Activity tab]] which displays user-insights is now available to all users of the Wikipedia iOS app (version 7.9.0 and later). Following earlier A/B testing that showed higher account creation among users with access to the feature, it has been rolled out to 100% of users along with some updates. The Activity tab now shows your edited articles in the timeline, offers editing impact insights like contribution counts and article view trends, and customization options to improve in-app experience for users. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a bug that prevented [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]] from working on mobile has now been fixed, restoring full functionality. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415303] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] that makes this possible continues to improve. The latest upgrade is the inclusion of a [[mw:Extension:GlobalWatchlist#hook|new hook]], <code dir=ltr>ext.globalwatchlist.rebuild</code>, which fires after each watchlist rebuild. This allows you to run gadgets and user scripts for the Special page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275159] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.17|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/09|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W09"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23 feb 2026 20:03 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30119102 --> == Samenwerkingsproject met Swánga̱lyiatwuki == Meer dan een jaar geleden heb ik {{WikiW|De_Kroeg/2024#Swánga̱lyiatwuki|in De kroeg}} het {{WikiW|Samenwerking met Swánga̱lyiatwuki|samenwerkingsproject}} met de wiktionary in the Tyap, Swánga̱lyiatwuki aangekondigd. Dit is inmiddels in de derde fase beland. Aan de Nigeriaanse kant vormen de minimale faciliteiten waarmee ze het project moeten ontwikkelen de grootste belemmering. Aan onze kant is lastig dat er vrijwel geen openbaar toegankelijke informatie over het Tyap bestaat. Op dat laatste punt gaat [[Gebruiker:DouwesJolan|Jolan Douwes]], masterstudent taalkunde aan de Universiteit Leiden die via de Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland stage loopt bij WikiWoordenboek ons helpen om een goede beschrijving van woordsoorten en verbuigingen te krijgen, zodat we beter in staat zijn categorieën en sjablonen voor het Tyap te ontwikkelen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 14:43 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-10</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W10"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/10|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikipedia 25 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments|Birthday mode]] is now live on Betawi, Breton, Chinese, Czech, Dutch, English, French, Gorontalo, Indonesian, Italian, Luxembourgish, Madurese, Sicilian, Spanish, Thai, and Vietnamese Wikipedias! This limited-time campaign feature celebrates 25 years of Wikipedia with a birthday mascot, Baby Globe. When turned on, Baby Globe is shown on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments/article configuration|~2,500 articles]], waiting to be discovered by readers. Communities can choose to turn Birthday mode on by getting consensus from their community and asking an admin to enable the feature and customize it via [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments#Community Configuration Demo|community configuration]] on the local wiki. '''Updates for editors''' * [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing|Sub-referencing]], a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to Swedish Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia and [[:phab:T418209|a couple of other wikis]]. You can [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#test|try the feature]] on these projects or on testwiki and [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmcloud.org/wiki/Sub-referencing betawiki]. Learnings from the first pilot wiki German Wikipedia have been [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing/Learnings|published in a report]]. Reach out to the Wikimedia Deutschland team if you are [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Pilot wikis|interested in becoming a pilot wiki]]. * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#Paste check|Paste Check]] will become available at all Wikipedias this week. The feature prompts newcomers who are pasting text they are not likely to have written into VisualEditor to consider whether doing so risks a copyright violation. Paste Check [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Tags|tags]] all edits where it is shown for potential review. Local administrators can configure various aspects of the feature via [[{{#special:EditChecks}}]]. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Paste Check#A/B Experiment|Research]] across 22 wikis found that Paste Check resulted in an 18% decrease in relative reverted-edits compared to the control group. Translators can [https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&group=ext-visualeditor-ve-mw-editcheck&filter=&optional=1&action=translate help to localize] this and related features. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|Reader Experience team]] will be standardizing the user menu in the top right for all mobile users so that it is closer to the desktop experience. Currently this user menu is only visible to users with Advanced Mobile Controls (AMC) turned on. The only change is that a couple buttons previously in the left-side menu will move to the top right for users who do not have AMC turned on. This change is expected to go out March 9 and seeks to improve the user interface. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413912] * Starting in the week of March 2, the emails sent out when an email address was added, removed, or changed for an account will switch to a substantially nicer and clearer HTML email from the prior plaintext one. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410807] * Notifications are currently limited to 2,000 historic entries per user, and extend back to 2013 when the feature was released. This is going to be changed to only store Notifications from the last 5 years, but up to 10,000 of them. This will help with long-term infrastructure health and help to prevent more recent notifications from disappearing too soon. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] which lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on a single page continues to see improvements. The latest update improves label usage experience. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] now allows activating the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Language#Fallback languages|language fallback system]] for Wikidata items without labels in the viewed language, and showing those labels in the user’s preferred Wikidata language if no <code dir=ltr>uselang=</code> URL parameter is provided. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373686][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416111] * The Wikipedia Android team has started a beta test of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Information Retrieval/Phase 1|hybrid search]] on Greek Wikipedia. Hybrid search capabilities can handle both semantic and keyword queries enabling readers to find what they’re looking for directly on Wikipedia more easily. * For security reasons, members of certain user groups are [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Mandatory two-factor authentication for users with some extended rights|required to have two-factor authentication]] (2FA) enabled. Currently, 2FA is required to use the group, but not to be a member of it. Given that this model still has some vulnerabilities, the situation will [[phab:T418580|gradually change in March]]. Members of these groups will be unable to disable last 2FA method on their account, and it will be impossible to add users without 2FA to these groups. Users will still be able to add new authentication methods or remove them, as long as at least one method is continuously enabled. In the second half of March, users without 2FA will be removed from these groups. This applies to: CentralNotice administrators, checkusers, interface administrators, suppressors, Wikidata staff, Wikifunctions staff, WMF Office IT and WMF Trust & Safety. Nothing will change for other users. See the linked task for deployment schedule. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418580] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:27}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:27|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue preventing users from creating an instance in [https://www.wikibase.cloud/ Wikibase.cloud] has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416807] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * To help ensure [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Responsible Reuse|fair use of infrastructure]], over the next month the Wikimedia Foundation will implement global API rate limits across our APIs. In early March, stricter limits will be applied to unidentified requests from outside Toolforge/WMCS and API requests that are made from web browsers. In April, higher limits will be applied to identified traffic. These limits are intentionally set as high as possible to minimise impact on the community. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits|Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits]]. * The Wikidata Query Service Linked Data Fragment (LDF) endpoint will be decommissioned in February. This endpoint served limited traffic, which was successfully migrated to other data access methods that were better suited to support existing use cases. The hardware used to support the LDF endpoint will be reallocated to support the ongoing backend migration efforts. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415696] * The new Parsoid parser [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser Unification/Updates|continues to be deployed to additional wikis]], improving platform sustainability and making it easier to introduce new reading and editing features. Parsoid is now the default parser on 488 WMF wikis (268 Wikipedias), now covering more than 10% of all Wikipedia page views. * The process and criteria for [[Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Enterprise#Access|requesting exceptional access]] to the high volume feed of the ''Wikimedia Enterprise'' APIs (at no cost for mission-aligned usecases), [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Enterprise#Exceptional access criteria|have now been published]]. This is to provide more thorough and clearer documentation for users. * [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/ Tech Blog], the blog dedicated to the Wikimedia technical community [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2026/02/24/a-tech-blog-diff/ will be migrating] to [[diffblog:|Diff]], the community news and event blog. The migration should be complete in April 2026, after which new posts will be accepted for publishing. Readers will be able to access posts – old and new – on the landing page at https://diff.wikimedia.org/techblog. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.18|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/10|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W10"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 2 mrt 2026 18:51 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30137798 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-11</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W11"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. * Last week, all wikis had 2 hours of read-only time, and extended unavailability for user-scripts and gadgets. This was due to a security incident which has since been resolved. Work is ongoing to prevent re-occurrences. For current information please see the [[m:Steward's noticeboard#Statement on Meta about today's user script security incident|post on the Stewards' noticeboard]] ([[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Product and Technology/Product Safety and Integrity/March 2026 User Script Incident|translations]]). '''Updates for editors''' * Users facing multiple blocks on mobile will now see the reasons for each block separately, instead of a generic message. This helps them understand why they are blocked and what steps they can take to resolve the issue. For example, users affected for using common VPNs (such as [[Special:MyLanguage/Apple iCloud Private Relay|iCloud Private Relay]]) will receive clearer guidance on what they need to do to start editing again. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T357118] * Later this week, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Suggestion Mode|Suggestion Mode]] will become available as a beta feature within the visual editor at all Wikipedias. This feature proactively suggests various types of actions that people can consider taking to improve Wikipedia articles, and learn about related guidelines. The feature is locally configurable, and can also be locally expanded with custom Suggestions. Current settings can be seen at [[Special:EditChecks]] and there are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Suggestion mode#For administrators %E2%80%93 local customization|instructions for how administrators can customize]] the links to point to local guidelines. The feature is connected to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check|Edit check]] which suggests improvements while someone is writing new content. In the future, the Editing team plans to evaluate the feature's impact with newcomers through a controlled experiment. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404600] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where the cursor became misaligned during the use of CodeMirror’s syntax highlighting, which makes wikitext and code easier to read, has now been fixed. This problem specifically affected users who defined a font rule in a custom stylesheet while creating a new topic with DiscussionTools. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418793] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * API rate limiting update: To help ensure [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Responsible Reuse|fair use of infrastructure]], global API rate limits will be applied this week to requests without a compliant User-Agent that originate from outside Toolforge/WMCS and to unauthenticated requests made from web browsers. Higher limits will be applied to identified traffic in April. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits|Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits]]. * The new GraphQL API has been released. The API was developed as a flexible alternative to select features of the Wikidata Query Service (WDQS), to improve developer experience and foster adaptability, and efficient data access. Try it out and [[d:Wikidata:Wikibase GraphQL#Feedback and development|give feedback]]. You can also [https://greatquestion.co/wikimediadeutschland/GraphQLAPI/apply sign up for usability tests]. * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|PTAC Unsupported Tools Working Group]] continued improvements to [[commons:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons#|Video2Commons]] in February, with fixes addressing authentication errors, large-file handling, task queue visibility, and clearer upload behavior. Work is still ongoing in some areas, including changes related to deprecated server-side uploads. Read [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group#February 2026|this update]] to learn more. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.19|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The Article Guidance team invites experienced Wikipedia editors from selected [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance/Pilot wikis and collaborators#Collaborators|pilot wikis]] and interested contributors from other Wikipedias to fill out this questionnaire which is available in [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfmLeVWnxmsCbPoI_UF2jyRcn73WRGWCVPHzerXb4Cz97X_Ag/viewform English], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6rzr4XXQw8r4024fE3geTPFe13M_6w7Mitj-YJi0sOlWTAw/viewform?usp=header Arabic], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdok3-RfB18lcugYTUMGkpwmqG_8p760Wv4dCXitOXOszjUDw/viewform?usp=header Bengali], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfjTfYp4jEo0akA4B1e-Nfg3QZPCudUjhJzHzzDi6AHyAaMGA/viewform?usp=header Japanese], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScteVoI29Aue4xc72dekk-6RYtvmMgQxzMI900UOawrFrSTWg/viewform?usp=header Portuguese], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSetdxnYwL3ub2vqA7awCg5hJZPMIYcDPaiTe12rY9h0GYnVlw/viewform?usp=header Persian], and [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNvfJF-Ot-4pzA4qAN771_0QDJ4Li19YcUsaTgSKW8Nc7U_Q/viewform?usp=header Turkish]. Your answers will help the team customize guidance for less experienced editors and help them learn community policies and practices while creating an article. Learn more [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|on the project page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W11"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 9 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30213008 --> == archive.today == Bij verwijzing naar online bronnen is het vaak nuttig ook een archieflink aan te maken, vooral bij websites die zelf niet als archief zijn bedoeld. Voor dit doel wordt op WikiWoordenboek meestal het Internet Archive (archive.org) gebruikt. Daarnaast gebruiken we soms ook wel het daarvan los staande archive.today of een van zijn mirrorsites (meestal archive.ph). Het gebruik van archive.today en zijn mirrors is [[meta:Archive.today_incident|op Wikimediaprojecten omstreden]] geworden. De eigenaar van archive.today kreeg een ruzie met een blogger en ging er toen toe over om gebruikers van archive.today via wat code ongemerkt ook loze html-oproepen aan het blog te laten sturen, zodat het raadplegen daarvan werd bemoeilijkt. Daarnaast werd ook duidelijk dat hij op archive.today opgeslagen archiefpagina's van een eigen site had aangepast. Voor sommige Wikimediaprojecten waren dit voldoende redenen om helemaal geen gebruik meer te maken van archive.today, andere projecten kiezen voor minder vergaande beperkingen. De WMF laat deze kwestie voor dit moment over aan de afzonderlijke projecten, maar sluit niet uit dit in de toekomst zal veranderen. Op WikiWoordenboek is de situatie vrij overzichtelijk, omdat we hier vooral archive.org gebruiken: er zijn vele duizenden pagina's die naar die site verwijzen en nog geen 130 waar archive.today is gebruikt. Daarbij zitten echter wel een aantal pagina's die zich niet via archive.org laten archiveren. Soms lijkt dit een technische kwestie, maar er wordt in sommige gevallen ook expliciet aangegeven dat een site niet via archive.org wil worden vastgelegd omdat zo'n archiefpagina kan worden gebruikt om kunstmatige intelligentie te trainen. In dat soort gevallen lijken de voordelen van archivering via archive.today mij groter dat het weglaten van een archieflink of van de hele verwijzing. Mijn pragmatische voorstel is daarom als volgt: # We spreken af om in principe archive.org voor archieflinks te gebruiken. Indien mogelijk wordt een bestaande archieflink naar archive.today vervangen door een equivalent op archive.org. # In gevallen waarin een onvervangbare bron of vindplaats zich niet op die manier laat archiveren, wordt archive.'''ph''' gebruikt. Op die manier houden we goed overzicht van het gebruik van archive.today. Voor de bestaande links heb ik dit klusje al uitgevoerd. De keus voor deze mirror is ingegeven doordat dit het minste werk opleverde. # We maken geen gebruik meer van de overige sites van archive.today en voegen die toe aan de lijst van sites waar niet naartoe kan worden gelinkt. # We verzoeken de WMF uitdrukkelijk om bij het doorvoeren van meer ingrijpende maatregelen eerst een voorziening te treffen voor pagina's die niet op archive.org kunnen worden bewaard. Mij staat voor ogen om de komende 4 weken de reacties af te wachten en afhankelijk daarvan 3. en 4. uit te voeren. Met het oog op dat laatste punt ben ik wel al bezig met de vervangingen onder 1. omdat er zo een beter beeld ontstaat van de sites waar het om gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 13:11 (CET) :Nee, de kwestie is niet slechts een ruzie. De blog heeft door middel van doxing geprobeerd de eigenaar van archive.today onder druk te zetten. Het raadplegen van de blog is niet bemoeilijkt en is niet uitgevallen. :Voor veel Nederlandstalige bronnen is archive.today de enige manier om te archiveren. Ook de Internet Archive heeft regelmatig last van storingen. Ik pleit daarom voor diversificatie in plaats van minimalisatie. In andere woorden, dat bronnen in zo veel mogelijk archiefsites worden opgeslagen. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 13:02 (CET) == Save the Date: zaterdag 20 juni 2026 Verjaardagsfeest Wikipedia 25 jaar! == Op 19 juni bestaat de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia precies 25 jaar en dat willen we vieren! Daarom nodigen we je van harte uit voor het verjaardagsfeest op zaterdag 20 juni van 12:00 tot 17:00 uur bij restaurant LE:EN in Utrecht. Inschrijving is geopend! Op [[wmnl:Verjaardagsfeest_Wikipedia_25_jaar!|deze pagina]] vind je meer informatie alsmede het inschrijfformulier. We hopen dat je erbij kunt zijn en kijken ernaar uit je te mogen verwelkomen. Tot dan! Met vriendelijke groet, Team Wikimedia Nederland [[Gebruiker:JansenKirsten|JansenKirsten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JansenKirsten|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:53 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-12</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W12"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature, also known as [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror 6]], has been used for wikitext syntax highlighting since November 2024. It will be promoted out of beta by May 2026 in order to bring improvements and new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Features|features]] to all editors who use the standard syntax highlighter. If you have any questions or concerns about promoting the feature out of beta, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|please share]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259059] * Some changes to local user groups are performed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and logged there only. Now, interwiki rights changes will be logged both on Meta-Wiki and the wiki of the target user to make it easier to access a full record of user's rights changes on a local wiki. Past log entries for such changes will be backfilled in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T6055] * On wikis using [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Flagged Revisions|Flagged Revisions]], the number of pending changes shown on [[{{#Special:PendingChanges}}]] previously counted pages which were no longer pending review, because they have been removed from the system without being reviewed, e.g. due to being deleted, moved to a different namespace, or due to wiki configuration changes. The count will be correct now. On some wikis the number shown will be much smaller than before. There should be no change to the list of pages itself. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413016] * Wikifunctions composition language has been rewritten, resulting in a new version of the language. This change aims to increase service stability by reducing the orchestrator's memory consumption. This rewrite also enables substantial latency reduction, code simplification, and better abstractions, which will open the door to later feature additions. Read more about [[f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2026-03-11|the changes]]. * Users can now sort search results alphabetically by page title. The update gives an additional option to finding pages more easily and quickly. Previously, results could be sorted by Edit date, Creation date, or Relevance. To use the new option, open 'Advanced Search' on the search results page and select 'Alphabetically' under 'Sorting Order'. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403775] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons from importing files from Flickr has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419263] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new special page, [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}]], has been created to list transcluded pages that are flagged as containing lint errors to help users discover them easily. The list is sorted by the number of transclusions with errors. For example: [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}/night-mode-unaware-background-color]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170874] * Users of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature have been using [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]] for syntax highlighting when editing JavaScript, CSS, JSON, Vue and Lua content pages, for some time now. Along with promoting CodeMirror 6 out of beta, the plan is to replace CodeEditor as the standard editor for these content models by May 2026. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|Feedback or concerns are welcome]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419332] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] JavaScript modules will soon be upgraded to CodeMirror 6. Leading up to the upgrade, loading the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror</code> or <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.lib</code> modules from gadgets and user scripts was deprecated in July 2025. The use of the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.switch</code> hook was also deprecated in March 2025. Contributors can now make their scripts or gadgets compatible with CodeMirror 6. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror#Gadgets and user scripts|migration guide]] for more information. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373720] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is expanding coverage of REST API module definitions to include [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/API:REST API/Extensions|extension APIs]]. REST API modules are groups of related endpoints that can be independently managed and versioned. Modules now exist for [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414470 GrowthExperiments] and [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419053 Wikifunctions] APIs. As we migrate extension APIs to this structure, documentation will move out of the main MediaWiki OpenAPI spec and REST Sandbox view, and will instead be accessible via module-specific options in the dropdown on the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox] (i.e., [[{{#Special:RestSandbox}}]], available on all wiki projects). * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto|Scribunto]] extension provides different pieces of information about the wiki where the module is being used via the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual|mw.site]] library. Starting last week, the library also provides a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.site.wikiId|way]] of accessing the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Wiki ID|wiki ID]] that can be used to facilitate cross-wiki module maintenance. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146616] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.20|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Coolest Tool Award|2026 Coolest Tool Award]] celebrating outstanding community tools, is now open for nominations! Nominate your favorite tool using the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/435684?lang=en nomination survey] form by 23 March 2026. For more information on privacy and data handling, please see the [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Coolest_Tool_Award_2026_Survey_Privacy_Statement|survey privacy statement]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W12"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16 mrt 2026 20:35 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30260505 --> == Beursaanvraag Wikimania 2026 geopend == Van 21 - 25 juli vindt [[wikimania:2026:Wikimania|Wikimania]] in Parijs plaats, de jaarlijkse wereldwijde conferentie voor iedereen die betrokken is bij een of meerdere Wikimedia-projecten. Wikimedia Nederland stelt een beperkt aantal beurzen beschikbaar voor reis- en verblijfskosten voor het hoofdprogramma van 23–25 juli. Je kunt tot uiterlijk zondag 12 april een beurs aanvragen. [[wmnl:Wikimania_2026|Meer informatie over de beursaanvraag vind je op de verenigingswiki]]. Wikimedia Nederland [[Gebruiker:JansenKirsten|JansenKirsten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JansenKirsten|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:12 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-13</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W13"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikimedia site users can now log in without a password using passkeys. This is a secure method supported by fingerprint, facial recognition, or PIN. With this change, all users who opt for passwordless login will find it easier, faster, and more secure to log in to their accounts using any device. The new passkey login option currently appears as an autofill suggestion in the username field. An additional [[phab:T417120|"Log in with passkey" button]] will soon be available for users who have already registered a passkey. This update will improve security and user experience. The [[c:File:Passwordless_login_screencast.webm|screen recording]] demonstrates the passwordless login process step by step. * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia site users can now export their notifications older than 5 years using a [[toolforge:echo-chamber|new Toolforge tool]]. This will ensure that users retain their important notifications and avoid them being lost based on the planned change to delete notifications older than 5 years, as previously announced. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * Wikipedia editors in Indonesian, Thai, Turkish, and Simple English now have access to Special:PersonalDashboard. This is an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Moderator Tools/Dashboard|early version of an experience]] that introduces newer editors to patrolling workflows, making it easier for them to move from making edits to participating in more advanced moderation work on their project. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402647] * The [[Special:Block]] now has two minor interface changes. Administrators can now easily perform indefinite blocks through a dedicated radio button in the expiry section. Also, choosing an indefinite expiry provides a different set of common reasons to select from, which can be changed at: [[MediaWiki:Ipbreason-indef-dropdown]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401823] * Mobile editors [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments#Logged-out|at several wikis]] can now see an improved logged-out edit warning, thanks to the recent updates from the Growth team. These changes released last week are part of ongoing efforts and tests to enhance [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments|account creation experience on mobile]] and then increase participation. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408484] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:36}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:36|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented mobile web users from seeing the block information when affected by multiple blocks has been fixed. They can now see messages of all the blocks currently affecting them when they access Wikipedia. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Images built using Toolforge will soon get the upgraded buildpacks version, bringing support for newer language versions and other upstream improvements and fixes. If you use Toolforge Build Service, review the recent [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud-announce@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EMYTA32EV2V5SQ2JIEOD2CL66YFIZEKV/ cloud-announce email] and update your build configuration as necessary to ensure your tools are compatible. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Toolforge/Building_container_images&oldid=2392097#Buildpack_environment_upgrade_process][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380127] * The [https://api.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page API Portal] documentation wiki will shut down in June 2026. API keys created on the API Portal will continue to work normally. api.wikimedia.org endpoints will be deprecated gradually starting in July 2026. Documentation on the API Portal is moving to [[mw:Wikimedia APIs|mediawiki.org]]. Learn more on the [[wikitech:API Portal/Deprecation|project page]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes|WMDE Technical Wishes]] is considering improvements to [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names|automatically generated reference names in VisualEditor]]. Please check out the [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Proposed solutions|proposed solutions]] and participate in the [[m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Request for comment|request for comment]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W13"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23 mrt 2026 17:51 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30268305 --> == Kandidatuur Latijn als moderator == [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] heeft zich 26 maart {{WikiW|Aanmelding_moderators#Latijn|kandidaat gesteld als moderator}}, zonder hiervan in De Kroeg melding te maken. Het is aannemelijk dat Latijn niet wist dat dit goed gebruik is, vandaar dat ik dat nu maar doe. Het is in mijn ogen wel een indicatie dat er gewoon nog onvoldoende ervaring aanwezig is om moderator te worden. Een echte contra-indicatie is in mijn ogen het volgende: op 29 maart 16:46 is er een nieuw account [[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] aangemaakt. Dit account heeft in de hele Wikimediawereld precies twee bewerkingen gedaan: om 16:47 [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Latijn&diff=prev&oldid=5503673 deze bewerking] op de overlegpagina van Latijn, die om 17:38 door Latijn ongedaan is gemaakt, gevolgd door [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding_moderators&diff=prev&oldid=5503753 een stem voor Latijn als moderator] om 18:17, die door mij inmiddels om een voor de hand liggende reden ongeldig is verklaard. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:20 (CEST) :is het nu geldig [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:22 (CEST) ::Kiezen Jochenknabben, Kvdrgeus en Marcel coenders voor of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 15:57 (CEST) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-14</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W14"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/14|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The Beta version of [[abstract:|Abstract Wikipedia]] a new Wikimedia project which is language-independent, was launched last week. The project allows communities to build Wikipedia articles in their native language, which can be readily accessed by other users in their own languages. The wiki is powered by instructions from Wikifunctions and also based on structured content from Wikidata. [[:f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2026-03-26|Read more]]. '''Updates for editors''' * The Growth team is running an A/B test to evaluate a clearer, more user-friendly message that promotes account creation on wikis. Currently when logged-out mobile users begin editing, they see a jarring warning message that can feel abrupt and discouraging. This also presents temporary account editing as the default rather than encouraging account creation. The test is running on ten Wikipedias, including Arabic, French, Spanish and German. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments#2. Improve logged-out warning message (T415160)|Read more]]. * The Wikimedia Apps team is inviting feedback on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Future of Editing on the Mobile Apps|how editing should work on the Wikipedia mobile apps]]. The discussion focuses on improving how users access editing tools when they tap "Edit". This is part of a broader effort to convert readers who develop an interest in editing, to access a more user-friendly pathway to start contributing. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:45}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:45|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, an issue where citation fetching from the large newspaper archive [https://www.newspapers.com Newspapers.com] was no longer working, due to a block in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Citoid|Citoid]] requests, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419903] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.22|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/14|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W14"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 30 mrt 2026 21:25 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30329462 --> t0tetjpawfh139hcelvpy1ie22epgze 5504182 5504155 2026-03-30T20:44:01Z Latijn 65243 /* Kandidatuur Latijn als moderator */ Reactie 5504182 wikitext text/x-wiki <noinclude>__NEWSECTIONLINK__ __NOINDEX__ {{De_kroeg}}</noinclude> <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Per kalenderjaar:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2004|2004]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2005|2005]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2006|2006]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2007|2007]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2008|2008]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2009|2009]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2010|2010]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011|2011]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2012|2012]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2013|2013]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2014|2014]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2015|2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • <!-- [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2026|2026]] • --> [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|heden]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Werklijst|werklijst]] </div><section end=nav/> == Weergave actuele Franse spellingvarianten == De weerstand tegen de spellingverbetering van 1990 heeft geleid tot een situatie waarin zowel de "traditionele spelling" ''(orthographe traditionnelle)'' als de "verbeterde spelling" ''(orthographe rectifiée)'' worden gebruikt en officiële status hebben. In dit geval is onze gebruikelijke werkwijze met {{Tl|oudeschrijfwijze}} minder passend, temeer omdat vooral in Frankrijk zelf de traditionele spelling nog heel gangbaar is. In het verleden zijn hiervoor de sjablonen "fr-orth-trad" en "fr-orth-rect" aangemaakt, maar deze sjablonen werken niet zo prettig in combinatie met sjablonen die een verbogen of vervoegde vorm beschrijven. Het is typografisch ook wat verwarrend om informatie over schrijfwijzen niet onder dat kopje, maar op de trefwoordregel te geven, die eigenlijk zelf als een kopje is bedoeld. [[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Overleg met Jochenknabben]] die het afgelopen jaar vele duizenden Franse lemma's heeft toegevoegd, heeft een oplossing opgeleverd in de vorm van twee nieuwe sjablonen: {{Tl|-writ-fra-t-}} en {{Tl|-writ-fra-r-}}. Deze zorgen voor een consistente presentatie van informatie over deze spellingvarianten, ook op lemma's met verbogen en vervoegde vormen. Voorbeelden zijn te zien op {{Q|île|fra}}, {{Q|îles|fra}}, {{Q|ile|fra}}, {{Q|iles|fra}}. Dit levert ook een [[:Categorie:Verbeterde spelling Frans van 1990|categorie van woorden uit de verbeterde spelling]] op. Om te zien hoe het in de praktijk werkt, kunnen deze sjablonen op nieuwe lemma's worden gebruikt. Afhankelijk van de reacties hier staat mij voor ogen om over 4 weken om op bestaande pagina's de oude sjablonen door de nieuwe te vervangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:50 (CEST) :{{done}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2025 15:39 (CET) ::In aanvulling op het bovenstaande is ook nog het sjabloon {{Tl|fr-orth}} aangemaakt, dat gebruikt kan worden in de gevallen dat categorisering en het automatisch ingevoegde kopje ongewenst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:34 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-40</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W40"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/40|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * A major software upgrade has been made to [[phab:|Phabricator]]. The update introduces performance improvements, a refreshed search interface, enhancements to Maniphest task search, updates to user profile pages and project workboards, new Herald automation features, as well as general text input, mobile experience improvements and more. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/phame/post/view/321/iterative_improvements_september_2025/] '''Updates for editors''' * The Community Tech team will release the new Community Wishlist extension on October 1, that will improve the way wishes will be submitted. The new extension will allow users to add tags to their wishes to better categorise them, and (in a future iteration) to filter them by status, tags and focus areas. It will also be possible to support individual wishes again, as requested by the community in many instances. The old system will be retired. There will be a brief period of downtime while the extension is deployed and wishes are migrated to the new system. You can read more about this [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/Updates|in the latest update]] or you can consult the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CommunityRequests|current documentation on MediaWiki]]. * As announced [[diffblog:2025/09/02/better-detecting-bots-and-replacing-our-captcha/|on Diff blog]], the production trial of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Anti-abuse signals/hCaptcha|hCaptcha]] service for bot detection has begun. The trial is currently using hCaptcha to protect account creation on Chinese, Persian, Portuguese, Indonesian, Japanese, and Turkish Wikipedias, where it will replace our existing [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:ConfirmEdit#FancyCaptcha|CAPTCHA]] (FancyCaptcha). The goal with the trial is to better block bots while also improving usability and accessibility for users who encounter CAPTCHA challenges. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CampaignEvents|CampaignEvents]] extension has been [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|deployed]] to Wikimedia Commons. The extension makes it easier to organize and participate in collaborative activities, like edit-a-thons and WikiProjects, on the wikis. On Commons, anyone who is a registered user can use it as an event participant. To use it as an organizer, someone needs to have the [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Event organizers|event organizer right]]. * [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing|Sub-referencing]], a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to German Wikipedia. You can [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#test|test the feature]] on testwiki or [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmcloud.org/wiki/Sub-referencing on betawiki] as well. Please share your thoughts on [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Templates used in sub-references|using templates in sub-references]] or [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Pilot wikis|volunteer to become a pilot wiki]]. * On wikis using the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Mentorship|Mentorship]] system, communities can now opt experienced editors out of Mentorship through [[{{#special:CommunityConfiguration/Mentorship}}]]. Within this setting, communities may define thresholds, based on edit count and account age, to decide when an editor is considered experienced enough to no longer receive Mentorship. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403563] * The Editing Team and the Machine Learning Team are working on a new check for newcomers: [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Tone Check|Tone check]]. Using a prediction model, this check will encourage editors to improve the tone of their edits, using artificial intelligence. We invite volunteers to review the first version of the Tone language model for the following languages: Arabic, Czech, German, Hebrew, Indonesian, Dutch, Polish, Russian, Turkish, Chinese, Farsi, Italian, Norwegian, Romanian and Latvian. Users from these wikis interested in reviewing this model are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit_check/Tone_Check/Model_evaluation|invited to sign up at MediaWiki.org]]. The deadline to sign up is on October 3, which will be the start date of the test. * The rollout of [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Manage blocks|multiblocks]] had the side effect that non-active block logs may have been shown on {{#special:Contributions}} and on blocked users' user and user_talk pages. This issue will be fully resolved in a few days. As part of the fix, [{{fullurl:Special:Allmessages|prefix=sp-contributions-blocked-notice}} messages prefixed with <code>sp-contributions-blocked-notice</code>] will be removed and replaced with [{{fullurl:Special:Allmessages|prefix=blocked-notice-logextract}} those prefixed with <code>blocked-notice-logextract</code>] in a few weeks. Please help translate the new messages and update any local overrides if needed. * There was a bug with links added using visual editor if they included characters such as <code dir=ltr><nowiki>[ ] |</nowiki></code> after the fragment identifier (<code><nowiki>#</nowiki></code>). They were not encoded properly creating an incorrect link. This has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404823] * One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote/en}} in [[d:Q9237|Malay]] ([[q:ms:|<code>q:ms:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404698] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Anti-abuse signals/User Info|User Info Card]] now displays currently active global lock/blocks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401128] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Later this week, editors using Lua modules will be able to use the <code>[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.title.newBatch|mw.title.newBatch]]</code> function to look up the existence of up to 25 pages at once, in a way that only increases the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parser functions#Expensive parser functions|expensive function]] count once. * A new [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|Unsupported Tools Working Group]] has been formed as part of ongoing efforts to collectively determine technical work priorities, similar to the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product & Technology Advisory Council]] (PTAC). The working group will help prioritize and review requests for support of unmaintained extensions, gadgets, bots, and tools. For the first cycle, the group will be prioritizing an unsupported Wikimedia Commons tool. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/40|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W40"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 29 sep 2025 22:53 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29355230 --> == Upcoming Dark Mode user interface rollout for anonymous Wikimedia sites users == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> {{int:Hello}} Wikimedians, Apologies if this message is not in your language. {{int:please-translate}}. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web|Reader Experience team]] will launch the Dark mode feature for anonymous users on all Wikimedia sites, including yours, on October 29, 2025. [[:en:Special:MyLanguage/Light-on-dark color scheme|Dark mode]] is an option that allows users to view pages in light-coloured text, and icons on a dark background. Once it is available for anonymous users, they can enable it when using various devices. More information on ways to enable it can be found on [[:en:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia:Dark mode#Options for anyone|this page]]. Given many pages are still not compatible with dark mode this will be an opt-in feature and not automatically apply to pages. Dark mode requires modifications to content pages and templates, and since our initial launch [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/07/17/dark-modes-bright-future-how-dark-mode-will-transform-wikipedias-accessibility/ in July 2024], we have been working with communities and helping them prepare for dark mode. Before the rollout, it is essential that template authors and technical contributors test dark mode and read [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|this page]] to learn how to make pages Dark mode-ready and address any compatibility issues found in templates. We will fix most color compatibility issues only on the most-viewed pages on projects with over 5 million monthly page views. Technical contributors with an account should opt into dark mode currently using preferences or settings and test pages and seek help before the release to ensure everything complies before the enablement. If you have any questions or need help, please [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading#|contact the Reader Experience team]] for support. Thank you! </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:UOzurumba (WMF)|UOzurumba (WMF)]]</bdi> 30 sep 2025 04:08 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:UOzurumba_(WMF)/sandbox_Dark_mode_deployment_mass_message_list_(October_2025)&oldid=29358561 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-41</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W41"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/41|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#paste|Paste Check]] is a new Edit Check feature to help avoid and fight copyright violations. When editors paste text into an article, Paste Check prompts them to confirm the origin and licensing of the content. Starting Wednesday, 8 October, [[phab:T403680|22 wikis will test Paste Check]]. Paste Check will help new volunteers understand and follow the policies and guidelines necessary to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia projects. '''Updates for editors''' * Mobile devices will receive mobile articles directly on the standard domain (like <code>en.wikipedia.org</code>), instead of via a redirect to an "m" domain (like <code>en.m.wikipedia.org</code>). This change improves performance. This week it will be enabled on Wikipedias. The existing mobile URLs and the "Desktop view" opt-out remain available. [[mw:Requests for comment/Mobile domain sunsetting/2025 Announcement|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214998] * New [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:CirrusSearch#creationdate and lasteditdate|date filters]], <code dir=ltr>creationdate:</code> and <code dir=ltr>lasteditdate:</code>, are now available in the wiki search engine. This allows users to filter search results by a page's first or last revision date. The filters support comparison operators (e.g. <code dir=ltr>>2024</code>) and relative dates (e.g. <code dir=ltr>today-1d</code>), making it easier to find recently updated content or pages within specific age ranges. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403593] * [[f:|Wikifunctions]] now supports rich text in embedded calls across the 150 wikis where it's enabled. To showcase this, the team created a [[f:Z26333|Latin declination table]] that Wiktionary editors can use to automatically generate noun forms, producing clear, formatted results — see an [[f:Wikifunctions:Embedded function calls/Wiktionary tables demonstration|example output]]. If you need any help or have any feedback, please [[f:Wikifunctions:Project chat|contact the Wikifunctions Team]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T397402] * An edit link will now appear inside the categories box on article pages for logged in users, which will directly launch the VisualEditor category dialog. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T291691] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:34}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:34|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, there was a problem downloading pdf files last week and that has been resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405957] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The field <code dir=ltr>rev_sha1</code> in the revision database table is being removed in favor of <code dir=ltr>content_sha1</code> in the content database table. See [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/2D2M3SP4WHR6BXXKTZ2PBLZQYR3EGQVR/ the announcement] for more information. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web|Reader Experience team]] will roll out [[w:en:Light-on-dark color scheme|Dark Mode]] user interface on all Wikimedia sites on October 29, 2025. All anonymous users of Wikimedia sites will have the option to activate a color scheme that features light-colored text on a dark background. This is designed to provide a more comfortable reading experience, especially in low-light situations. Template authors and technical contributors are encouraged to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading/Updates/2024-04|learn how to make pages ready for Dark mode]] and address any compatibility issues found in templates in their wiki before the enablement. Please contact the Web team for questions or any support on [[mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Accessibility for reading#|this talk page]] before the enablement. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395628] * Starting on Monday, October 6, API endpoints under the <code>rest.php</code> path will be rerouted through a new internal API Gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the [[phab:tag/serviceops/|Service Ops team board]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T400130] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.22|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/41|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W41"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 6 okt 2025 19:23 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29400897 --> == haakje openen i haakjesluiten toegevoegd bij het inhoudssjabloon van een lemma na editten en opslaan == er wordt momenteel <nowiki><i></nowiki> toegevoegd aan de ingangen van het inhoud van een lemma als je een artikel edit en weer opslaat. Dit is niet te zien als je artikel aan het editten bent en ook als je niets veranderd gebeurt dat zie bijvoorbeeld het lemma breder. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:30 (CEST) probleem lijkt te zijn opgelost. :Dit probleem werd veroorzaakt door een foutje in een update van de Wikimediaprogrammatuur. Het is ondertussen opgelost. Zie [[Overleg_gebruiker:MarcoSwart#schuin_gedrukte_inhoud|dit overleg]] voor meer details. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 12:47 (CEST) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Have your say: vote for the 2025 Board of Trustees</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> Hello all, The voting period for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025|2025 Board of Trustees election]] is now open. Candidates are running for two (2) seats on the Board. To check your voter eligibility, please visit the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Voter eligibility guidelines|voter eligibility page]]. Learn more about them by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation elections/2025/Candidates|reading their application statements and watch their candidacy videos]]. When you are ready, go to the [[m:Special:SecurePoll/vote/405|SecurePoll voting page to vote]]. '''The vote is open from October 8 at 00:00 UTC to October 22 at 23:59 UTC.''' Best regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi<br />Chair, Elections Committee<section end="announcement-content" /> </div> [[Gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MediaWiki message delivery|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 06:49 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:RamzyM (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29360896 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-42</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W42"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/42|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Last week, improvements to account security and two-factor authentication (2FA) features were enabled across all wikis. These changes include user interface improvements for [https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:AccountSecurity Special:AccountSecurity], the support of multiple 2FA methods via authenticator apps and portable security keys (previously users could only enable one method), and a new Recovery Codes module which facilitates fewer account lockouts due to lost two-factor apps and devices. As part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] project, work is continuing through the rest of 2025 on further user experience improvements, and support for passkeys as an alternate second factor. '''Updates for editors''' * Another part of the Account security project is making 2FA generally available to all users. Along with editors with advanced privileges, such as administrators and bureaucrats, 40% of editors now have access to 2FA. You can check if you have access at [https://auth.wikimedia.org/metawiki/wiki/Special:AccountSecurity Special:AccountSecurity]. Instructions for activation are on the linked page. The plan is to continue increasing availability if it is determined that the user support capabilities are able to support global usage. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T400579] * This week, users at wikis where talk page [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Usability|Usability Improvements]] are already available by default (everywhere ''except'' the 12 wikis listed in [[phab:T379264|T379264]]) will gain the ability to Thank a comment directly from the talk page it appears on. Before this change, Thanking could only be done by visiting the revision history of the talk page. You can [[diffblog:2025/10/13/revolutionizing-gratitude-a-new-era-of-thanking-comments/|learn more about this change]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366095] * Users who have not [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-personal-email|verified their email address]] will soon be receiving monthly Notification reminders to do so. This is because users who have verified their email can more easily recover their account. These reminders will not be sent if the user is inactive or removes the unverified email from their account. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Email_confirmation][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T58074] * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a fix was made for an occasional error with saving translated paragraphs in the Content Translation tool, and the related error messages are now easier to see. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T376531] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The Unsupported Tools Working Group has chosen [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2Commons]] as the first tool for its pilot cycle. The group will explore ways to improve and sustain the tool over the coming months. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|Learn more on Meta]]. * [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.23|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/42|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W42"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 13 okt 2025 20:59 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29434481 --> == Report concerning User:~2025-28143-59 == [[Special:Contributions/~2025-28143-59|~2025-28143-59]] &ndash; Vandalism. Long-term abuse <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small> --[[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19|Nvdtn19]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Nvdtn19|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 14:05 (CEST) :Deze melding lijkt te berusten op een vergissing door een vandalismebestrijder die geen Nederlands spreekt. Ik heb hem hierop aangesproken via zijn gebruikerspagina. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 15:47 (CEST) == Help ons een naam te kiezen voor Abstract Wikipedia == <section begin="function1"/> {{int:Hello}}! Help ons alsjeblieft een naam te kiezen voor het nieuwe wikiproject Abstract Wikipedia. Dit project wordt een wiki waar gebruikers functies van [[:f:|Wikifuncties]] en gegevens van Wikidata kunnen combineren om zinnen te genereren in alle ondersteunde talen. Deze zinnen kunnen vervolgens worden gebruikt door elke Wikipedia (of elders). Er zullen twee stemrondes zijn, elk gevolgd door een juridische beoordeling van de kandidaten. De stemmingen beginnen op 20 oktober en 17 november 2025. Ons doel is om medio december 2025 een definitieve projectnaam te kiezen. Als je wilt deelnemen, '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|klik dan hier voor meer informatie en stem nu]]''' op meta-wiki. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}} <section end="function1"/> -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 20 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29432175 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-43</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W43"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/43|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * To optimize how user data is stored in our databases, the saved preferences of users who haven't logged in for over five years and have fewer than 100 edits will be cleared. When those users return, default settings will apply. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406724] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, there was a broken link from the GlobalContributions interface message to the XTools GlobalContributions page which has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406415] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The work to reroute all traffic to API endpoints under the <code dir=ltr><nowiki>rest.php</nowiki></code> route through a common API gateway is now complete. If any issues are observed, please file a phabricator ticket to the [[phab:tag/serviceops/|Service Ops team board]]. * Edits to Wikidata references or qualifiers will now be shown in RecentChanges and Watchlist entries on other wikis less often, reducing unnecessary notifications. This will reduce the overall quantity of 'noisy' entries. Wikidata's own pages remain unchanged. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401290] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.24|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/43|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W43"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 20 okt 2025 21:36 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29478670 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-44</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W44"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The Wikipedia iOS app has launched an A/B/C test of improvements made to the tabbed browsing feature for select regions and languages. The test, named “More dynamic tabs”, explores new tab experiences and includes “Did you know” and “Because you read” article recommendations. You can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/Tabbed Browsing (Tabs)/New Tab Experience and Recommendations Experiment|read more on the project page]]. * Autoconfirmed users on [[git:operations/mediawiki-config/+/a2d2aaab9ace84280dd2f4c70a33bb69cd73850f/dblists/small.dblist|small]] and [[git:operations/mediawiki-config/+/a2d2aaab9ace84280dd2f4c70a33bb69cd73850f/dblists/medium.dblist|medium wikis]] with the CampaignEvents extension can now use [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event Center/Registration|Event Registration]] without the Event Organizer right. This feature lets organizers enable registration, manage participants, and lets users register with one click instead of signing event pages. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue of flashing colors when holding or pressing the arrow keys under the dark mode settings in Vector 2022 has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402285] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The CampaignEvents extension will be deployed to all remaining wikis during the week of 17 November 2025. The extension currently includes three features: Event Registration, Collaboration List, and Invitation List. For this rollout, Invitation List will not be enabled on Wikifunctions and MediaWiki unless requested by those communities. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Deployment status|Visit the deployment page to learn more]]. * The SwaggerUI-based REST sandbox experience is now live on all wiki projects. The sandbox can be accessed through the [[{{#special:RestSandbox}}]] page. Please report any issues to the MediaWiki Interfaces team board, or join the discussion on the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Interfaces Team/Feature Feedback/REST Sandbox|project launch]] page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/board/6931/] * Transform endpoints with a trailing slash path in the MediaWiki REST API are now marked as deprecated. They will remain functional during this time, but removal is expected by the end of January 2026. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found and tested using the [https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?api=mw-extra&title=Special%3ARestSandbox REST Sandbox]. See the [[mw:API/Deprecation|MediaWiki REST API Deprecation]] page for more detailed information about the API deprecation policies and procedures. * A dedicated [[mw:API:REST API/Changelog|changelog now exists for the MediaWiki REST API]]. The changelog provides an overview of these changes, making it easier for developers to keep track of improvements and iterations. Announcements will also continue to flow through the standard communication channels, including Tech News and email distribution lists, but can now be more easily referenced from a central location. If you have feedback about the style, structure, or content of this changelog, please [[mw:API talk:REST API/Changelog|join the discussion]]. * Administrators can delete the tracking category which was previously added by the JsonConfig extension, as it is no longer used. See the categories linked from [[d:Q130635582#sitelinks-wikipedia|Q130635582]]. It is OK if there are still pages listed in the category as that is just a caching issue, and they will be automatically cleared out the next time each page is edited. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T378352] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.25|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W44"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 27 okt 2025 20:31 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29513638 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Seeking volunteers to join several of the movement’s committees</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> Each year, typically from October through December, several of the movement’s committees seek new volunteers. Read more about the committees on their Meta-wiki pages: * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Affiliations Committee|Affiliations Committee (AffCom)]] * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Ombuds commission|Ombuds commission (OC)]] * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Community Resilience and Sustainability/Trust and Safety/Case Review Committee|Case Review Committee (CRC)]] Applications for the committees open on October 30, 2025. Applications for the Affiliations Committee, Ombuds commission and the Case Review Committee close on December 11, 2025. Learn how to apply by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Legal/Committee appointments|visiting the appointment page on Meta-wiki]]. Post to the talk page or email cst[[File:At sign.svg|16x16px|link=|(_AT_)]]wikimedia.org with any questions you may have. For the Committee Support team, <section end="announcement-content" /> </div> -[[m:User:MKaur (WMF)| MKaur (WMF)]] 30 okt 2025 15:14 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:MKaur (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29517125 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-45</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W45"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/45|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Administrators will now find that [[{{#special:MergeHistory}}]] is now significantly more flexible about what it can merge. It can now merge sections taken from the middle of the history of the source (rather than only the start) and insert revisions anywhere in the history of the destination page (rather than only the start). [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T382958] * For users with "{{int:discussiontools-preference-autotopicsub}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|enabled in their preferences]], starting a new topic or adding a reply to an existing topic will now subscribe them to replies to that topic. Previously, this would only happen if the DiscussionTools "{{int:Skin-action-addsection}}" or "{{int:Discussiontools-replybutton}}" widgets were used. When DiscussionTools was originally launched existing accounts were not opted in to automatic topic subscriptions, so this change should primarily affect newer accounts and users who have deliberately changed their preferences since that time. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290778] * Scribunto modules can now be used to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#SVG library|generate SVG images]]. This can be used to build charts, graphics and other visualizations dynamically through Lua, reducing the need to compose them externally and upload them as files. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405861] * Wikimedia sites now provide all anonymous users with the option to enable a dark mode color scheme, featuring light-colored text on a dark background. This enhancement aims to deliver a more enjoyable reading experience, especially in dimly lit environments. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T395628] * Users with large watchlists have long faced timeouts when editing [[Special:EditWatchlist|Special:EditWatchlist]]. The page now loads entries in smaller sections instead of all at once due to a paging update, allowing everyone to edit their watchlists smoothly. As part of the database update, sorting by expiry has been removed because it was over 100× slower than sorting by title. A [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/W454 community wish] has been created to explore alternative ways to restore sort-by-expiry. If this feature is important to you, please support the wish! [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T41510] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:31}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:31|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the fixing of the persisting highlighting when using VisualEditor find and replace during a query. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T407318] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Since 2019 the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia URL Shortener|Wikimedia URL Shortener]] at https://w.wiki is available for all Wikimedia wikis to create short links to articles, permalinks, diffs, etc. It is available in the sidebar as "Get shortened URL". There are 30 wikis that also install an older "ShortUrl" extension. The old extension will soon be removed. This means <code>/s/</code> URLs will not be advertised under article titles via HTML <code dir=ltr>class="title-shortlink"</code>. The <code>/s/</code> URLs will keep working. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107188] * On Thursday, October 30, the [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Interfaces Team|MediaWiki Interfaces]] and [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Site Reliability Engineering|SRE Service Operations]] teams began rerouting Action API traffic through a common API gateway. Individual wikis will be updated based on the standard release groups, with total traffic increased over time. This change is expected to be non-breaking and non-disruptive. If any issues are observed, please file a Phabricator ticket to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/serviceops/ Service Ops team] board. * MediaWiki Train deployments will pause for the final two weeks of 2025: 22 December and 29 December. Backport windows will also pause between Monday, 22 December 2025 and Thursday, 2 January 2026. A backport window is a scheduled time to add things like bug fixes and configuration changes. There are seven deployment trains remaining for 2025. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/SMWTEAES4SDLDUSK4HMWNBSKNCXZAWYN/] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.45/wmf.26|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * In 2025, the Wikimedia Foundation reported that AI systems and search engines increasingly use Wikipedia content without driving users to the site, contributing to an 8% drop in human pageviews compared to 2024. After detecting bots disguised as humans, Wikimedia updated its traffic data to reflect this shift. Read more about current user trends on Wikipedia in [[diffblog:2025/10/17/new-user-trends-on-wikipedia/|a Diff blog post]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/45|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W45"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 3 nov 2025 20:34 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29552512 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-46</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W46"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/46|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' [[File:Talk pages default look (April 2023).jpg|thumb|alt=Screenshot of the visual improvements made on talk pages|Example of a talk page with the new design, in French.]] * Starting November 12, users will see a change in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Talk pages project/Feature summary#Usability improvements|appearance of talk pages]] on [[Phab:T379264|some Wikipedias]]. Almost [[phab:T392121|all wikis]] have received this design change; [[phab:T409297|English Wikipedia]] will get these changes later. You can read more [[diffblog:2024/05/02/making-talk-pages-better-for-everyone/|on ''Diff'']]. Users can opt out of these changes [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|in their user preferences]] in "{{int:discussiontools-preference-visualenhancements}}". [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T379264] * MediaWiki can now display a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Protection indicators|page indicator]] automatically while a page is protected. This feature is disabled by default. It can be enabled by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Requesting wiki configuration changes|community request]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T12347] * Using the "{{int:showpreview}}" or "{{int:showdiff}}" buttons in the wikitext editor will now carry over certain URL parameters like '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parameters to index.php#useskin|useskin]]', '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Parameters to index.php#uselang|uselang]]' and '[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Section#Editing sections|section]]'. This update also fixes an issue where, if the browser crashed while previewing an edit to a single section, saving this edit could overwrite the entire page with just that section’s content. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T62744][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T24029][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155097] * Wikivoyage wikis can use [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Kartographer#Markers and counters|colored map markers in the article text]]. The text of these markers will now be shown in contrasting black or white color, instead of always being white. Local workarounds for the problem can be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T369454] * The Activity tab in the Wikipedia Android app is now available for all users. The new tab offers personalized insights into reading, editing, and donation activity, while simplifying navigation and making app use more engaging. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android/Activity_Tab_Experiment] * The Reader Growth team is launching an experiment called "Image browsing" to test how to make it easier for readers to browse and discover images on Wikipedia articles. This experiment, a mobile-only A/B test, will go live on English Wikipedia in the week of November 17 and will run for four weeks, affecting 0.05% of users on English wiki. The test launched on November 3 on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese wikis, affecting up to 10% of users on those wikis. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Reader_Growth/WE3.1.3_Image_Browsing] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:27}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:27|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example the inability to lock accounts on mobile sites has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256185] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[wikitech:Help talk:Toolforge/Toolforge standards committee#November 2025 committee nominations|Nominations are open on Wikitech]] for new [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Toolforge standards committee|Toolforge standards committee]] members. The committee oversees the Toolforge [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Right to fork policy|Right to fork policy]] and [[wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Abandoned tool policy|Abandoned tool policy]] among other duties. Nominations will remain open through 2025-11-28. * The [[w:JSON Web Token#Standard fields|JWT issuer field]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/For Developers#OAuth 2|OAuth 2 access tokens]] for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|SUL wikis]] has been changed to <code><nowiki>https://meta.wikimedia.org</nowiki></code>. Old access tokens will still work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399199] * The [[w:JSON Web Token#Standard fields|JWT subject field]] in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OAuth/For Developers#OAuth 2|OAuth 2 access tokens]] will soon change from <code><user id></code> to <code dir=ltr style="white-space:nowrap">mw:<identity type>:<user id></code>, where <code><identity type></code> is typically <code dir=ltr>CentralAuth:</code><!-- not a typo --> (for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Unified login|SUL wikis]]) or <code dir=ltr style="white-space:nowrap">local:<wiki id></code> (for other wikis). This is to avoid conflicts between different user ID types, and to make OAuth 2 access tokens and the <code>sessionJwt</code> cookie more similar. Old access tokens will still work. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399199] * MediaWiki's block messages ([[MediaWiki:Blockedtext|blockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext-partial|blockedtext-partial]], [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext|autoblockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Systemblockedtext|systemblockedtext]], [[MediaWiki:Blockedtext-tempuser|blockedtext-tempuser]], [[MediaWiki:Autoblockedtext-tempuser|autoblockedtext-tempuser]]) now support additional parameters indicating whether the user is blocked from editing their own user talk page <code><nowiki>$9</nowiki></code> or emailing other users <code><nowiki>$</nowiki><nowiki>10</nowiki></code>. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T285612] * A <code>REL1_45</code> branch for MediaWiki core and each of the extensions and skins in Wikimedia git has been created. This is the first step in the release process for MediaWiki 1.45.0, scheduled for late November 2025. If you are working on a critical bug fix or working on a new feature, you may need to take note of this change. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/ZUY7TY3Z6XPZWZVAZV63OPO5OW52Q6GE/] * The process for generating CirrusSearch dumps has been updated due to slowing performance. If you encounter any issues migrating to the replacement dumps, please contact the Search Platform Team for support. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T366248][https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/3KQPOR6ACVN6OVLMLZPIBXQSWQKW4E3K/] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.2|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/46|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W46"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 10 nov 2025 21:38 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29606150 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-47</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W47"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/47|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|Reader Experience team]] is experimenting with [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience/WE3.3.4_Reading lists|reading lists on mobile web]], allowing logged-in readers with no edits to save private lists of articles for later. The experiment is running on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias since the week of 10 November, and will begin on English Wikipedia the week of 17 November. * Users who can’t receive their email verification code during login can now get help by submitting a form on a new special page. This update is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] initiative. If your account has an email address, please make sure you still have access to it. When logging in from a new device or location without 2FA, you may be asked to enter a 6-digit code sent by email to finish logging in. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security#Why are you requiring me to enter a code from my email to log in? Can I opt out of this?|Learn more]]. * One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikisource}} in [[d:Q13324|Minangkabau]] ([[s:min:|<code>s:min:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408317] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * As part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser Unification|Parser Unification]] project, the Content Transform Team rolled out Parsoid as the default parser to many low-traffic Wikipedias and is preparing the next step to high traffic ones. This message is an invitation for you to opt-in to Parsoid, as described in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:ParserMigration|Extension:ParserMigration]] documentation, and identify any issues you might encounter with your own workflow using bots, gadgets, or user scripts. Please, let us know through the ''"Report Visual Bug"'' link in the Tools sidebar or create a phab ticket and tag the [[phab:project/view/5846|Content Transform Team in Phabricator]]. * Unsupported Tools: Several issues with [[:c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons|Video2Commons]] have been fixed, including filename-related upload failures, black-video imports, and retry handling. AV1 support has also been added. Ongoing work focuses on backend stability, ffmpeg errors, subtitle imports, metadata handling, and playlist uploads. To track specific tasks, check the [[phab:tag/video2commons/|Phabricator board]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.3|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * Save the date for the next Wikimedia Hackathon happening in Milan, Italy from May 1–3, 2026. Registration will open in January 2026. [https://pretix.eu/wikimedia/Hackathon-2026/ Scholarship applications are currently open], and will close on November 28, 2025. If you have any questions, please email <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">hackathon@wikimedia.org</bdi>. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/47|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W47"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 17 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29627455 --> == Herinnering: Help ons een naam te kiezen voor Abstract Wikipedia == <section begin="function2"/> {{int:Hello}}! Herinnering: help ons alsjeblieft bij het kiezen van een naam voor het nieuwe wikiproject Abstract Wikipedia. De stemming over de finalisten begint vandaag. De finalisten voor de naam zijn: <span lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr">Abstract Wikipedia, Multilingual Wikipedia, Wikiabstracts, Wikigenerator, Proto-Wiki</span>. Als je wilt deelnemen, '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia/Abstract Wikipedia naming contest|klik dan hier voor meer informatie en stem nu]]''' op meta-wiki. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}} <section end="function2"/> -- [[User:Sannita (WMF)|User:Sannita (WMF)]] ([[User talk:Sannita (WMF)|talk]]) 20 nov 2025 15:23 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Sannita (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29583860 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-48</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W48"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/48|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Last week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Search Platform|Wikimedia Search Team]] recreated the "DWIM" (Do What I Mean) gadget functionality server-side, for Russian and Hebrew Wikipedias. This feature adds cross-keyboard suggestions to the standard search-box suggestions. For example, searching for ''<span lang="und" dir="ltr">cxfcnmt</span>'' on Russian Wikipedia will now add suggestions for ''<span lang="ru" dir="ltr">счастье</span>'' ("happiness") that the user probably intended. They plan to enable this feature for other Russian and Hebrew wikis this week. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408734] * Later this week, users of the "{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]] will have syntax highlighting available in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]]. This requires that the "{{int:discussiontools-preference-sourcemodetoolbar}}" preference be set. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T407918] * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CampaignEvents|Campaign events extension]] – the set of tools for coordinating events and other on-wiki collaborations has now been deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. A new feature known as [[m:Special:MyLanguage/CampaignEvents/Collaborative contributions|Collaborative contribution]] to help organizers and participants see the impact of activities has also been added. Join the upcoming [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Event:Connection learning session 3|learning session]] to see the new feature in action and share your feedback. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:24}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:24|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug which stopped CodeReviewBot from working, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410417] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Users of Wikimedia API can join a usability study to help validate the new design of Wikimedia REST API sandboxes. Interested participants should fill the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/487662 recruitment survey]. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/IREJRRWTZTGCYWQHDMSNJFTQAEPOOAE3/] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is deprecating XSLT stylesheets within the Action API. Support for <code dir=ltr>format=xml'''&xlst={stylesheet}'''</code> will be removed from Wikimedia projects by the end of November, 2025. In addition, it will soon be disabled by default in MediaWiki release versions: v1.43 (LTS), v1.44, and v1.45. Support for XSLT stylesheets will be fully removed from MediaWiki v1.46 (expected to release between April and May 2026). [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/5AX7UWAVVUNUSBOIRHMNOKWOZ5EZI3JX/] * The WDQS legacy endpoint ([https://query-legacy-full.wikidata.org/ query-legacy-full.wikidata.org]) will be decommissioned at the end of December 2025, and finally closed down on 7th January 2026. After this date, users should expect requests to query.wikidata.org that require the full graph to fail or return invalid results if they are not rewritten to use SPARQL federation. The team encourages users to ensure that tools and workflows use the supported WDQS endpoints (<span dir=ltr><nowiki>https://query.wikidata.org/</nowiki></span> - Main graph or <span dir=ltr><nowiki>https://query-scholarly.wikidata.org/</nowiki></span> - Scholarly graph). For support with migrating use cases, please review the [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Data_access|Data Access]] and [[d:Wikidata:Request_a_query|Request a Query]] pages for details and assistance on alternative access methods. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.4|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/48|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W48"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 24 nov 2025 16:56 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29702226 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-49</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W49"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/49|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The Wikipedia Year in Review 2025 will be available on December 2 for users of iOS and Android Wikipedia apps, featuring new personalized insights, updated reading highlights, and refreshed designs. Learn more on the review's [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Wikipedia Year in Review/Updates|project page]]. * The Growth team is working on improving the text and presentation of the Verification Email sent to new users to make them more welcoming, useful and informative. Some new text have been drafted for A/B testing and you can help by translating them. See [[phab:T396155|Phabricator]]. * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]] will now be deployed at Japanese, Urdu and Chinese Wikipedias on December 2. Add a link is based on a prediction model that suggests links to be added to articles. While this feature has already been available on most Wikipedias, the prediction model could not support certain languages. A new model has now been developed to handle these languages, and it will be gradually rolled out to other Wikipedias over time. If you would like to know more, please contact [[mw:user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek (WMF)]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:34}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:34|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where search boxes on some Commons pages showed no results due to switch from SpecialSearch to MediaSearch, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T399476] * Two new wikis have been created: ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q36846|Toki Pona]] ([[w:tok:|<code>w:tok:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404457] ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikiquote}} in [[d:Q33655|Nigerian Pidgin]] ([[q:pcm:|<code>q:pcm:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408318] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.5|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The Wikimedia Foundation is in the early stages of exploring approaches to '''Article guidance'''. The initiative aims to identify interventions that could help new editors easily understand and apply existing Wikipedia practices and policies when creating an article. The project is in the exploration and early experimental design phase. All community members are encouraged to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|learn more]] about the project, and share their thoughts on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Talk:Article guidance|the talk page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/49|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W49"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 1 dec 2025 19:58 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29732328 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-50</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W50"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/50|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Anybody who wishes to secure their user account can now use [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Two-factor authentication|two-factor authentication]] (2FA). This is available to all registered users of all Wikimedia projects. This is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] initiative. Later, 2FA will be required for all users who can take security- or privacy-sensitive actions. '''Updates for editors''' * Following last week's deployments, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Growth/Tools/Add a link|Add a link]] feature, which allows editors to add suggested links during editing, will be available to an additional [[Phab:T410469|33 Wikipedias]] starting on 9 December. This expansion is possible thanks to the new prediction model that now supports all languages, including those that were previously not covered. While the feature has been available on most Wikipedias for some time, this rollout brings us closer to using the improved model everywhere. If you have any questions or would like more details please contact [[mw:user:Trizek (WMF)|Trizek (WMF)]]. * Last week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Search Platform|Search Platform team]] added [[w:en:Transliteration|transliterated]] as-you-type search suggestions to Georgian wikis. If there are only a few regular search suggestions, then queries in Latin or Cyrillic script [[phab:T127003|are now rewritten into Georgian script]] to look for more matches. For example, searching for either <bdi lang="ka-Latn" dir="ltr">''bedniereba''</bdi> or <bdi lang="ka-Cyrl" dir="ltr">''бедниереба''</bdi> will now suggest the existing article about <bdi lang="ka" dir="ltr">ბედნიერება</bdi> ("happiness"). You can recommend other languages where transliterated suggestions would be useful [[phab:T375215|on Phabricator]] for future development. * Later this week, a controlled experiment will begin for editors on the 100 largest Wikipedias who are editing a section in the mobile web visual editor. 50% of these editors will notice a new "Edit full page" button that will enable them to expand their editing session to the whole page. This feature is intended to make it easier for people on mobile web to edit any article section, regardless of which section-edit icon they tapped to begin. The experiment will last ~4 weeks. You can find [[phab:T409112|more details]] about the project. * Later this week, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth|Reader Growth team]] will launch a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth/WE3.1.14 Expanded Mobile Sections|mobile web experiment]] to expand all article sections by default (currently they are collapsed by default) and pin the section header the user is currently reading to the top of the page. The experiment will affect 10% of users on Arabic, Chinese, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409485] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Wikipedia Year in Review/2025 Year in Review|Wikipedia Year in Review 2025]], a feature in the Wikipedia mobile apps (iOS and Android) that provides users with a personalised summary of their engagement with Wikipedia over the year, is now available on the iOS and Android apps. This edition includes expanded personalised insights, improved reading highlights, new donor messaging, and updated designs. Open the app to view your Year in Review and explore your reading journey from 2025. * A recent software bug caused edits made with VisualEditor to make unintended changes to wikitext, including removing whitespace and replacing spaces with underscores in wikilinks inside citations. This was partially fixed last week, and further fixes are in progress. Editors who used VisualEditor between November 28 and December 2 should review their edits for unexpected modifications. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411238] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the incorrect handling of URLs copied from the address bar of Microsoft Edge users, has been resolved. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T341281] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Starting this week, users of the "{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}" [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures|beta feature]] will have [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] as the editor for Lua, JavaScript, CSS, JSON and Vue content models, instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]]. With this, the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Linting|linters]] will be upgraded. This is part of a larger effort to eventually replace CodeEditor and provide a consistent code editing experience. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373711] * Developers are encouraged to take the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/552643 2025 Developer Satisfaction Survey], which remains open until 5 January 2026. If you build software for the Wikimedia ecosystem and would like to share your experiences or feedback, your participation is greatly appreciated. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/W4WBKO6Q55UWWCCSFWQATKEXBEHP3QNR/] * There is no new MediaWiki version this week. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/50|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W50"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 8 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29738112 --> == Miljonairs == Nadat we twee weken terug de mijlpaal van 600.000 pagina's met een Nederlands woord bereikten, is WikiWoordenboek ergens gisterenmiddag rond 17.14 uur het miljoen pagina's in de hoofdnaamruimte gepasseerd. Omdat er wel eens wat wordt gesomberd over de toekomst van het Nederlands: onze taal behoort nu tot de 6 talen die zowel een Wikipedia als een Wiktionary met meer dan 1 miljoen pagina's hebben (Engels, Frans, Duits, Chinees, Russisch en Nederlands). Ik verwacht dat het Zweeds zich komend jaar bij die groep gaat voegen. Terugtellend kom ik uit bij de [[muurzwelmossen]] als miljoenste woord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 07:41 (CET) :Op zich heel mooi (best wonderlijk ook dat de projecten in het Spaans en Portugees wat dit betreft blijkbaar nog achterlopen op het Nederlands, terwijl dat wereldwijd bezien veel grotere talen zijn), maar toch hecht ik zelf vooral aan het verbeteren van de inhoudelijke kwaliteit. :Verder wat het pure aantal betreft: het is me al veel langer opgevallen dat er erg veel import vanaf WP hierheen plaatsvindt, vooral van dierenartikelen (op WP zijn die eerder meestal massaal aangemaakt met een gebruikersbot, en over de inhoudelijke betrouwbaarheid is nog altijd geregeld discussie op WP). Daar is de huidige 1 miljoen dus vooral aan te danken. Wie voelt er iets voor een deelproject om die artikelen hier deels te herschrijven, bijvoorbeeld met een originelere definitie en waar nodig vooral lexicologische aanvullingen? (De definitie is nu nog heel vaak een letterlijk gekopieerde WP-intro.) :Een ander nu heel belangrijk verbeterpunt is het verder aanvullen van veel bestaande pagina's. Nu wordt een woord dat soms in tientallen talen dezelfde vorm heeft, hier vaak nog steeds alleen in het Nederlands beschreven. Ik heb zelf vooral kennis van de grotere Indo-Europese talen (Engels, Frans, Duits) maar niet van de meeste minder bekende talen. Het devies is, lijkt mij, zorgen dat er meer "externe krachten" hier actief worden. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 11:56 (CET) ::Met je slotzin ben ik het eens. Het helpt daarbij als we de mensen die hier lemma's toevoegen laten blijken dat we hun inspanning op prijs stellen en af en toe ook samen bereikte resultaten vieren. ::De lemma's over dieren vormen overigens maar enkele procenten van het miljoen pagina's. Inhoudelijk zijn ze in de regel prima in orde, wellicht omdat ze juist ''niet'' klakkeloos zijn overgenomen. Ik pas vrijwel dagelijks omschrijvingen aan zodat ze meer in een woordenboek passen, maar dat geldt niet alleen voor dieren, maar ook voor tal van andere lemma's. Maar er is nog veel te doen. Ik ben vooral blij dat er het afgelopen jaar heel wat nieuwe bewerkers bij zijn gekomen, waardoor we deze mijlpaal veel eerder bereiken dan ik een jaar terug had gedacht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 23:12 (CET) : Een mooie mijlpaal, gefeliciteerd allen! Ik hou me vooralsnog vooral bezig met het toevoegen van Nederlandse lemmata aan en.wikt, maar het Nederlandse Wikiwoordenboek is daarbij een enorme steun. [[Gebruiker:Mnemosientje|Mnemosientje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mnemosientje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 13:14 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-51</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W51"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/51|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:18}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:18|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, one of the fixes addressed an issue for temporary accounts adding an external URL, which triggered an hCaptcha request in more cases than intended, and did not display the required popup on the first attempt to publish the edit. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411927] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * To improve database and site performance, external links to Wikimedia projects will no longer be stored in the database. This means they will not be searchable in [[{{#special:LinkSearch}}]], will not be checked by the Spam Blacklist or AbuseFilter as new links, and will not be in the <code dir=ltr>externallinks</code> table on database replicas. In the future this may be extended to other highly-linked trusted websites on a per-wiki basis, such as Creative Commons links on Wikimedia Commons. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T405005] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.7|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/51|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W51"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 15 dec 2025 20:03 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29796010 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2025-52</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2025-W52"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/52|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * From January, edit filters [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter/Access flags|can be set]] to automatically suppress their details such as rules and list of attempted edits and actions. This will help oversighters use edit filters to prevent doxxing or other suppressible material. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T290324] * The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 12 January 2026 because of the end of year holidays. Thank you to all of the translators, and people who submitted content or feedback, this year. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:16}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:16|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the crash that occurred when tapping "First Steps" in the Wikipedia Android Year in Review has now been fixed, and the feature opens as expected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411546] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Interface elements such as diffs and categories generated by MediaWiki used to have the attribute <code dir=ltr>data-mw="interface"</code> to distinguish from wiki content. The attribute has been replaced with <code dir=ltr>data-mw-interface=""</code>, to avoid potential conflicts with other <code dir=ltr>data-mw</code> attributes, which are generated by Parsoid. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409187] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week. '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026|Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026]] will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications just opened mid-December and will close in mid-January or earlier if capacity is reached. With space for approximately 100 participants, early application is encouraged. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/52|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2025-W52"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 22 dec 2025 22:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29831856 --> == Van Dale is gestopt met zijn gratis online woordenboek == Vanaf 10 december is het gratis aanbod op de site van Van Dale beperkt tot het puzzelwoordenboek en het rijmwoordenboek. Als reden wordt opgegeven dat Van Dale zijn gebruikers een betere taalervaring wil bieden: zonder advertenties, zonder afleiding en met toegang tot alle functies die nodig zijn. Het gratis woordenboek werd vaak verward met de Dikke Van Dale, maar bood maar een beperkte selectie van woorden, met een duidelijk kleinere omvang dan WikiWoordenboek. Het alternatief is nu een betaald abonnement van € 81,75 per jaar voor de Dikke Van Dale of van € 5,44 per jaar voor de versie voor onderwijs NT2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 14:09 (CET) == Report concerning User:~2026-14769-0 == [[Special:Contributions/~2026-14769-0|~2026-14769-0]] &ndash; Vandalism <small>[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/User:TenWhile6/XReport|XReport]]</small> --[[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 00:10 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-03</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W03"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/03|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Product & Technology OKRs|Meta]] and ''[[diffblog:2025/12/10/shaping-wikimedia-foundations-2026-2027-annual-goals-key-questions-for-the-wikimedia-movement/|Diff]]''. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on the [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. '''Updates for editors''' * As part of the current work of Community Tech team on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/W372|Multiple watchlists]] project, the display of [[Special:EditWatchlist|EditWatchlist]] will be updated as a first step towards multiple watchlists. Additionally, the pagination on [[Special:Search|Search]] will be updated too, as a part of the work on the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community Wishlist/W186|Revamp pagination / page navigation]] wish. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411596] * [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|The Global Watchlist]] is a MediaWiki [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] that lets you see your watchlists from different wikis on the same page. It was recently updated to look more like the regular [[Special:Watchlist|Watchlist]], such as preparing it for temporary accounts in IP masking (including rerouting user links to contributions pages), making page titles bold, and opening links in edit summaries and tags in new browser tabs. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T398361][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T298919][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T273526][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T286309] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where global blocks did not have the option to disable sending emails, has now been fixed, and will be available for use in the week of January 13. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401293] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Citation tool|VisualEditor citation tool]] and [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Reference Previews|Reference Previews]] now support "map" as a reference type. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411083] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.10|MediaWiki]]/[[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.11|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/03|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W03"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 12 jan 2026 20:33 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29907192 --> == Thank You for Last Year – Join Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 == Dear Wikimedia communities, We hope you are doing well, and we wish you a happy New Year. ''Last year, we captured light. This year, we’ll capture legacy.'' In 2025, communities around the world shared the glow of Ramadan nights and the warmth of collective iftars. In 2026, ''Wiki Loves Ramadan'' is expanding, bringing more stories, more cultures, and deeper global connections across Wikimedia projects. We invite you to explore the ''Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026'' [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026|Meta page]] to learn how you can participate and [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026/Participating communities|sign up]] your community. 📷 ''Photo campaign on '' [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026|Wikimedia Commons]] If you have questions about the project, please refer to the FAQs: * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wiki Loves Ramadan/FAQ/|Meta-Wiki]] * [[c:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Wiki Loves Ramadan/FAQ|Wikimedia Commons]] ''Early registration for updates is now open via the '''[[m:Special:RegisterForEvent/2710|Event page]]''''' ''Stay connected and receive updates:'' * [https://t.me/WikiLovesRamadan Telegram channel] * [https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikilovesramadan.lists.wikimedia.org/ Mailing list] We look forward to collaborating with you and your community. '''The Wiki Loves Ramadan 2026 Organizing Team''' 16 jan 2026 20:45 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:ZI Jony@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Non-Technical_Village_Pumps_distribution_list&oldid=29879549 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-04</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W04"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/04|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The tray shown on [[Special:Diff|Special:Diff]] in mobile view has been redesigned. It is now collapsed by default, and incorporates a link to undo the edit being viewed, making it easier for mobile editors and reviewers to take action while keeping the interface uncluttered. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402297] * [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|The Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] continues to improve — it now automatically determines the text direction (ensuring correct display of sites with unusual domain names) and shows detailed descriptions for log actions. Later this week, a new permanent link for page creations and CSS classes for each entry element will be added. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T412505][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T287929][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262768][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414135] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:32}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:32|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the previously observed issue in Vector 2022, where anchor link targets were obscured by the sticky header, has now been addressed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406114] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * As mentioned in the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2025/44|October 2025 deprecation announcement]], MediaWiki Interfaces team will begin sunsetting all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from the MediaWiki REST API the week of January 26. Changes are expected to roll out to all wikis on or before January 30th. All API users currently calling them are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. Both endpoint variations can be found, compared, and tested using the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox]. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in Phabricator to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/6931/ #MW-Interfaces-Team board]. * Interactive reference documentation for the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia REST API|Wikimedia REST API]] has moved. Requests to API docs previously hosted through [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/RESTBase|RESTBase]] (e.g.: <code dir=ltr>https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/</code>) are now redirected to the [[w:en:Special:RestSandbox|REST Sandbox]]. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata Platform|WMF Wikidata Platform team]] (WDP) has published its [[d:Special:MyLanguage/Wikidata:Wikidata Platform team/Newsletter|January 2026 newsletter]]. It includes updates on the legacy full-graph endpoint decommissioning, the User-Agent policy change, the monthly Blazegraph migration office hours, and efforts to reduce regressions caused by the legacy endpoint shutdown. As a reminder, you can [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Global message delivery/Targets/WDP team updates|subscribe to the WDP newsletter]]! * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.12|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026|Wikimedia Hackathon Northwestern Europe 2026]] will take place on 13-14 March 2026 in Arnhem, the Netherlands. Applications opened mid-December and will close soon or when capacity is reached. It's a two-day, technically oriented hackathon bringing together Wikimedians from the region. Hope to see you there! '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/04|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W04"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 19 jan 2026 21:29 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29943403 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Annual review of the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="announcement-content" /> I am writing to you to let you know the annual review period for the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines is open now. You can make suggestions for changes through 9 February 2026. This is the first step of several to be taken for the annual review. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Annual review/2026|Read more information and find a conversation to join on the UCoC page on Meta]]. The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee|Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee]] (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. This annual review was planned and implemented by the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Universal Code of Conduct/Coordinating Committee/Charter|you may review the U4C Charter]]. Please share this information with other members in your community wherever else might be appropriate. -- In cooperation with the U4C, [[m:User:Keegan (WMF)|Keegan (WMF)]] ([[m:User talk:Keegan (WMF)|talk]])<section end="announcement-content" /> </div> 19 jan 2026 22:02 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Keegan (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Distribution_list/Global_message_delivery&oldid=29905753 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-05</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W05"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/05|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia Foundation invites comments on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Year1 Reflections and Proposed Way Forward 2026 Update|proposed future]] of the [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council|Product and Technology Advisory Council]] until 28 February. * All users with registered accounts can now use passkeys for [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Two-factor authentication|two-factor authentication]] (2FA). Passkeys are a simple way to log in without using a second device. They verify the user's identity using a fingerprint, face scan, or a PIN code. To set up a passkey, first set up a regular 2FA method. Currently, to log in with a passkey, users must also use a password. Later this quarter, passwordless login will allow users to log in with a single click and a passkey. Users with advanced rights will also be required to have 2FA enabled. This is part of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Product Safety and Integrity/Account Security|Account Security]] project. * Unregistered contributors on blocked IPs or blocked IP ranges can now interact on-wiki to appeal a block by creating a temporary account to appeal a block on the user talk page, unless the "prevent this user from editing their own talk page" is enabled. This solves the problem of logged-out users unable to use the default unblock process via user talk page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T398673] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:20}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:20|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the Two-Factor Authentication (2FA) methods description on the management page has been updated. It is now clearer and easier for users to understand and make use of. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T332385] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new AbuseFilter variable, <code>account_type</code>, has been added to provide a reliable way to determine the account type being created in the <code>createaccount</code> and <code>autocreateaccount</code> actions. As part of this change, the variable <code>accountname</code> has been renamed to <code>account_name</code>, and <code>accountname</code> is now deprecated. Edit filter managers should update any filters that use hardcoded account type checks or the deprecated variable. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414049] * Image thumbnails that are requested in non-standard sizes, and using non-standard methods such as direct requests to <code dir=ltr><nowiki>upload.wikimedia.org/…</nowiki></code> will stop working in the near future. This change is to prevent ongoing external abuse by web-scrapers and bots. Some users with custom CSS/JS, Interface Admins who can fix gadgets and local skins, and Tool-authors, will need to update their code to use standard thumbnail sizes. [[phab:T414805|Details, search-links, and examples of how to fix them, are available in the task]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.13|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/05|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W05"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 26 jan 2026 22:17 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=29969530 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-06</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W06"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/06|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The "{{int:pageinfo-toolboxlink}}" feature, which gives validating information about a page ([{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=info}} example]), now automatically includes a table of contents. If there is a local [[{{ns:8}}:Pageinfo-header]] page created by individual users, it can now be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T363726] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, VisualEditor previously added bold or italic formatting inside link descriptions, making the wikicode complex. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409669] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * There was no XML dump on 20 January. Additionally, from now on, dumps will be generated once per month only. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414389] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team removed support for all transform endpoints containing a trailing slash from the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/API:REST%20API MediaWiki REST API]. All API users currently calling those endpoints are encouraged to transition to the non-trailing slash versions. If you have questions or encounter any problems, please file a ticket in phabricator to the [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/6931/ #MW-Interfaces-Team board]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.14|MediaWiki]] '''Weekly highlight''' * Users are reminded that the Wikimedia Foundation has shared some guiding questions for the July 2026–June 2027 Annual Plan on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027/Product & Technology OKRs|Meta]] and ''[[diffblog:2025/12/10/shaping-wikimedia-foundations-2026-2027-annual-goals-key-questions-for-the-wikimedia-movement/|Diff]]''. These focus on global trends, faster and healthier experimentation, better support for newcomers, strengthening editors and advanced users, improving collaboration across projects, and growing and retaining readership. Feedback and ideas are welcome on the [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan/2026-2027|talk page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/06|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W06"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 2 feb 2026 18:43 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30000986 --> == Toegang tot Ensie == Zouden WikiWoordenboekvrienden toegang kunnen krijgen tot https://www.ensie.nl? Blijkbaar hebben onderwijsinstellingen toegang? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 8 feb 2026 17:53 (CET) :Voor zover ik kan nagaan gaat het daarbij om betaalde abonnementen per instelling. Misschien kunnen Wikimedia België en Wikimedia Nederland een gezamenlijk zo'n instellingsabonnement afsluiten. Je zou ook kunnen kijken of ENSIE kan worden opgenomen in de [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/?next_url=/search/?q= Wikipedia Library]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 14:04 (CET) ::Ensie kopieert zelf geregeld vanaf o.a. dit project en Wikipedia. Het lijkt me dus niet echt nodig om hier een speciale externe link of zo van te maken (je creëert dan immers voornamelijk ''cirkelverwijzingen''), hooguit kan er misschien in bepaalde gevallen naartoe worden gelinkt als dat echt iets van meerwaarde oplevert. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 13:03 (CET) :::De vraag ging - denk ik - alleen maar over de mogelijkheid om ENSIE te raadplegen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-07</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W07"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/07|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * [[File:Maki-gift-15.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Wishlist item]] Logged-in contributors who manage large or complex watchlists can now organise and filter watched pages in ways that improve their workflows with the new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Watchlist labels|Watchlist labels]] feature. By adding custom labels (for example: pages you created, pages being monitored for vandalism, or discussion pages) users can more quickly identify what needs attention, reduce cognitive load, and respond more efficiently. This improves watchlist usability, especially for highly active editors. * A new feature available on [[Special:Contributions|Special:Contributions]] shows [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts|temporary accounts]] that are likely operated by the same person, and so makes patrolling less time-consuming. Upon checking contributions of a temporary account, users with access to temporary account IP addresses can now see a view of contributions from the related temporary accounts. The feature looks up all the IPs associated with a given temporary account within the data retention period and shows all the contributions of all temporary accounts that have used these IPs. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Trust and Safety Product/Temporary Accounts#February 2026: Improvements to the patroller tooling|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415674] * When editors preview a wikitext edit, the reminder box that they are only seeing a preview (which is shown at the top), now has a grey/neutral background instead of a yellow/warning background. This makes it easier to distinguish preview notes from actual warnings (for example, edit conflicts or problematic redirect targets), which will now be shown in separate warning or error boxes. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414742] * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] continues to improve — it now properly supports more than one Wikibase site, for example both [[d:|Wikidata]] and [[testwikidata:|testwikidata]]. In addition, issues regarding text direction have been fixed for users who prefer Wikidata or other Wikibase sites in right-to-left (RTL) languages. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415440][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415458] * The automatic "magic links" for ISBN, RFC, and PMID numbers have been [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic links|deprecated in wikitext since 2021]] due to inflexibility and difficulties with localization. Several wikis have successfully replaced RFC and PMID magic links with equivalent external links, but a template was often required to replace the functionality of the ISBN magic link. There is now a new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Magic words#isbn|built-in parser function]] <code dir=ltr><nowiki>{{#isbn}}</nowiki></code> available to replace the basic functionality of the ISBN magic link. This makes it easier for wikis who wish to migrate off of the deprecated magic link functionality to do so. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145604] * Two new wikis have been created: ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q35401|Jju]] ([[w:kaj:|<code>w:kaj:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413283] ** a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in [[d:Q1186896|Nawat]] ([[w:ppl:|<code>w:ppl:</code>]]) [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413273] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new global user group has been created: [[{{int:grouppage-local-bot}}|{{int:group-local-bot}}]]. It will be used internally by the software to allow community bots to bypass rate limits that are applied to abusive [[w:en:Web scraping|web scrapers]]. Accounts that are approved as bots on at least one Wikimedia wiki will be automatically added to this group. It will not change what user permissions the bot has. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415588] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.15|MediaWiki]] '''Meetings and events''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Spring 2026|MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference, Spring 2026]] will be held March 25–27 in Salt Lake City, USA. This event is organized by and for the third-party MediaWiki community. You can propose sessions and register to attend. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/AZBWVI46SDEB65PGR5J6E4TYOQQEZXM7/] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/07|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W07"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 10 feb 2026 00:30 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:Quiddity (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30026671 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-08</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W08"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/08|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Site Reliability Engineering|SRE Team]] will be performing a cleanup of Wikimedia's [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Etherpad|Etherpad]] instance, the web-based editor for real-time collaborative document editing. All pads will be permanently deleted after 30 April, 2026 – if there are still migration projects in progress at that point the team can revisit the date on a case by case basis. Please create local backups of any content you wish to keep, as deleted data cannot be recovered. This cleanup helps reduce database size and minimize infrastructure footprint. Etherpad will continue to support real-time collaboration, but long-term storage should not be expected. Additional cleanups may occur in the future without prior notice. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415237] '''Updates for editors''' * The Information Retrieval team will be launching an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Information Retrieval/Phase 1|Android mobile app experiment]] that tests hybrid search capabilities which can handle both semantic and keyword queries. The improvement of on-platform search will enable readers to find what they’re looking for directly on Wikipedia more easily. The experiment will first be launched on Greek Wikipedia in late February, followed by English, French, and Portuguese in March. [https://diff.wikimedia.org/2026/01/08/semantic-search-making-it-easier-to-find-the-information-readers-want/ Read more] on Diff blog. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Readers/Information_Retrieval] * The Reader Growth team will run [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Growth/WE3.10.2 Mobile Table of Contents|an experiment]] for mobile web users, that adds a table of contents and automatically expands all article sections, to learn more about navigation issues they face. The test will be available on Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Indonesian, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. * Previously, site notices ([[{{ns:8}}:Sitenotice]] and [[{{ns:8}}:Anonnotice]]) would only render on the desktop site. Now, they will render on all platforms. Users on mobile web will now see these notices and be informed. Site administrators should be prepared to test and fix notices on mobile devices to avoid interference with articles. To opt out, interface admins can add <code dir="ltr">#siteNotice { display: none; }</code> to [[{{ns:8}}:Minerva.css]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138572][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416644] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:19}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:19|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, an issue on [[Special:RecentChanges|Special:RecentChanges]] has been fixed. Previously, clicking hide in the active filters caused the "view new changes since…" button to disappear, though it should have remained visible. The button now behaves as expected. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406339] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * New documentation is now available to help editors debug on-site search features. It supports troubleshooting when pages do not appear in results, when ranking seems unexpected, and when you need to inspect what content is being indexed, helping make search behavior easier to understand and analyze. [[mw:Help:CirrusSearch/Debug|Learn more]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T411169] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.16|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/08|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W08"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16 feb 2026 20:17 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30086330 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-09</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W09"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/09|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Reference Check|Reference Check]] has been deployed to English Wikipedia, completing its rollout across all Wikipedias. The feature prompts newcomers to add a citation before publishing new content, helping reduce common citation-related reverts and improve verifiability. In A/B testing, the impact was substantial: newcomers shown Reference Check were approximately 2.2 times more likely to include a reference on desktop and about 17.5 times more likely on mobile web. [https://analytics.wikimedia.org/published/reports/editing/reference_check_ab_test_report_final_2025.html] '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:InterwikiSorting|InterwikiSorting extension]], which allowed for the [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Interwiki sorting order|sorting of interwiki links]], has been undeployed from Wikipedia. As a result, editors who had enabled interwiki link sorting in non-compact mode (full list format) will now see links reordered. The links moving forward will be listed in the alphabetical order of language code. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253764] * Later this week, people who are editing a page-section using the mobile visual editor, will notice a new "Edit full page" button. When tapped, you will be able to edit the entire article. This helps when the change you want to make is outside the section you initially opened. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T387175][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T409112] * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|The Reader Experience team]] is inviting editors to assess whether dark mode should still be considered "beta" on their wiki, based on their experience of how well it functions on desktop and mobile. If the feature is deemed mature, editors can update the interface messages in <code dir=ltr>MediaWiki:skin-theme-description</code> and <code dir=ltr>MediaWiki:Vector-night-mode-beta-tag</code> to indicate that dark mode is ready and no longer considered beta. * The improved [[mw:Wikimedia_Apps/Team/iOS/Activity_Tab|Activity tab]] which displays user-insights is now available to all users of the Wikipedia iOS app (version 7.9.0 and later). Following earlier A/B testing that showed higher account creation among users with access to the feature, it has been rolled out to 100% of users along with some updates. The Activity tab now shows your edited articles in the timeline, offers editing impact insights like contribution counts and article view trends, and customization options to improve in-app experience for users. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:21}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:21|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, a bug that prevented [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:DiscussionTools|DiscussionTools]] from working on mobile has now been fixed, restoring full functionality. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415303] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on one page. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] that makes this possible continues to improve. The latest upgrade is the inclusion of a [[mw:Extension:GlobalWatchlist#hook|new hook]], <code dir=ltr>ext.globalwatchlist.rebuild</code>, which fires after each watchlist rebuild. This allows you to run gadgets and user scripts for the Special page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275159] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.17|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/09|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W09"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23 feb 2026 20:03 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30119102 --> == Samenwerkingsproject met Swánga̱lyiatwuki == Meer dan een jaar geleden heb ik {{WikiW|De_Kroeg/2024#Swánga̱lyiatwuki|in De kroeg}} het {{WikiW|Samenwerking met Swánga̱lyiatwuki|samenwerkingsproject}} met de wiktionary in the Tyap, Swánga̱lyiatwuki aangekondigd. Dit is inmiddels in de derde fase beland. Aan de Nigeriaanse kant vormen de minimale faciliteiten waarmee ze het project moeten ontwikkelen de grootste belemmering. Aan onze kant is lastig dat er vrijwel geen openbaar toegankelijke informatie over het Tyap bestaat. Op dat laatste punt gaat [[Gebruiker:DouwesJolan|Jolan Douwes]], masterstudent taalkunde aan de Universiteit Leiden die via de Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland stage loopt bij WikiWoordenboek ons helpen om een goede beschrijving van woordsoorten en verbuigingen te krijgen, zodat we beter in staat zijn categorieën en sjablonen voor het Tyap te ontwikkelen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 14:43 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-10</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W10"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/10|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikipedia 25 [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments|Birthday mode]] is now live on Betawi, Breton, Chinese, Czech, Dutch, English, French, Gorontalo, Indonesian, Italian, Luxembourgish, Madurese, Sicilian, Spanish, Thai, and Vietnamese Wikipedias! This limited-time campaign feature celebrates 25 years of Wikipedia with a birthday mascot, Baby Globe. When turned on, Baby Globe is shown on [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments/article configuration|~2,500 articles]], waiting to be discovered by readers. Communities can choose to turn Birthday mode on by getting consensus from their community and asking an admin to enable the feature and customize it via [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikipedia 25/Easter egg experiments#Community Configuration Demo|community configuration]] on the local wiki. '''Updates for editors''' * [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing|Sub-referencing]], a new feature to re-use references with different details has been released to Swedish Wikipedia, Polish Wikipedia and [[:phab:T418209|a couple of other wikis]]. You can [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#test|try the feature]] on these projects or on testwiki and [https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmcloud.org/wiki/Sub-referencing betawiki]. Learnings from the first pilot wiki German Wikipedia have been [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing/Learnings|published in a report]]. Reach out to the Wikimedia Deutschland team if you are [[:m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/Sub-referencing#Pilot wikis|interested in becoming a pilot wiki]]. * [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check#Paste check|Paste Check]] will become available at all Wikipedias this week. The feature prompts newcomers who are pasting text they are not likely to have written into VisualEditor to consider whether doing so risks a copyright violation. Paste Check [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Tags|tags]] all edits where it is shown for potential review. Local administrators can configure various aspects of the feature via [[{{#special:EditChecks}}]]. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Edit check/Paste Check#A/B Experiment|Research]] across 22 wikis found that Paste Check resulted in an 18% decrease in relative reverted-edits compared to the control group. Translators can [https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&group=ext-visualeditor-ve-mw-editcheck&filter=&optional=1&action=translate help to localize] this and related features. * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Reader Experience|Reader Experience team]] will be standardizing the user menu in the top right for all mobile users so that it is closer to the desktop experience. Currently this user menu is only visible to users with Advanced Mobile Controls (AMC) turned on. The only change is that a couple buttons previously in the left-side menu will move to the top right for users who do not have AMC turned on. This change is expected to go out March 9 and seeks to improve the user interface. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413912] * Starting in the week of March 2, the emails sent out when an email address was added, removed, or changed for an account will switch to a substantially nicer and clearer HTML email from the prior plaintext one. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T410807] * Notifications are currently limited to 2,000 historic entries per user, and extend back to 2013 when the feature was released. This is going to be changed to only store Notifications from the last 5 years, but up to 10,000 of them. This will help with long-term infrastructure health and help to prevent more recent notifications from disappearing too soon. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * The [[m:Special:GlobalWatchlist|Global Watchlist]] which lets you view your watchlists from multiple wikis on a single page continues to see improvements. The latest update improves label usage experience. The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:GlobalWatchlist|extension]] now allows activating the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Language#Fallback languages|language fallback system]] for Wikidata items without labels in the viewed language, and showing those labels in the user’s preferred Wikidata language if no <code dir=ltr>uselang=</code> URL parameter is provided. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373686][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416111] * The Wikipedia Android team has started a beta test of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Readers/Information Retrieval/Phase 1|hybrid search]] on Greek Wikipedia. Hybrid search capabilities can handle both semantic and keyword queries enabling readers to find what they’re looking for directly on Wikipedia more easily. * For security reasons, members of certain user groups are [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Mandatory two-factor authentication for users with some extended rights|required to have two-factor authentication]] (2FA) enabled. Currently, 2FA is required to use the group, but not to be a member of it. Given that this model still has some vulnerabilities, the situation will [[phab:T418580|gradually change in March]]. Members of these groups will be unable to disable last 2FA method on their account, and it will be impossible to add users without 2FA to these groups. Users will still be able to add new authentication methods or remove them, as long as at least one method is continuously enabled. In the second half of March, users without 2FA will be removed from these groups. This applies to: CentralNotice administrators, checkusers, interface administrators, suppressors, Wikidata staff, Wikifunctions staff, WMF Office IT and WMF Trust & Safety. Nothing will change for other users. See the linked task for deployment schedule. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418580] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:27}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:27|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue preventing users from creating an instance in [https://www.wikibase.cloud/ Wikibase.cloud] has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T416807] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * To help ensure [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Responsible Reuse|fair use of infrastructure]], over the next month the Wikimedia Foundation will implement global API rate limits across our APIs. In early March, stricter limits will be applied to unidentified requests from outside Toolforge/WMCS and API requests that are made from web browsers. In April, higher limits will be applied to identified traffic. These limits are intentionally set as high as possible to minimise impact on the community. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits|Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits]]. * The Wikidata Query Service Linked Data Fragment (LDF) endpoint will be decommissioned in February. This endpoint served limited traffic, which was successfully migrated to other data access methods that were better suited to support existing use cases. The hardware used to support the LDF endpoint will be reallocated to support the ongoing backend migration efforts. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T415696] * The new Parsoid parser [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Parsoid/Parser Unification/Updates|continues to be deployed to additional wikis]], improving platform sustainability and making it easier to introduce new reading and editing features. Parsoid is now the default parser on 488 WMF wikis (268 Wikipedias), now covering more than 10% of all Wikipedia page views. * The process and criteria for [[Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Enterprise#Access|requesting exceptional access]] to the high volume feed of the ''Wikimedia Enterprise'' APIs (at no cost for mission-aligned usecases), [[m:Talk:Wikimedia Enterprise#Exceptional access criteria|have now been published]]. This is to provide more thorough and clearer documentation for users. * [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/ Tech Blog], the blog dedicated to the Wikimedia technical community [https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2026/02/24/a-tech-blog-diff/ will be migrating] to [[diffblog:|Diff]], the community news and event blog. The migration should be complete in April 2026, after which new posts will be accepted for publishing. Readers will be able to access posts – old and new – on the landing page at https://diff.wikimedia.org/techblog. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.18|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/10|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W10"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 2 mrt 2026 18:51 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30137798 --> == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-11</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W11"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. * Last week, all wikis had 2 hours of read-only time, and extended unavailability for user-scripts and gadgets. This was due to a security incident which has since been resolved. Work is ongoing to prevent re-occurrences. For current information please see the [[m:Steward's noticeboard#Statement on Meta about today's user script security incident|post on the Stewards' noticeboard]] ([[m:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Foundation/Product and Technology/Product Safety and Integrity/March 2026 User Script Incident|translations]]). '''Updates for editors''' * Users facing multiple blocks on mobile will now see the reasons for each block separately, instead of a generic message. This helps them understand why they are blocked and what steps they can take to resolve the issue. For example, users affected for using common VPNs (such as [[Special:MyLanguage/Apple iCloud Private Relay|iCloud Private Relay]]) will receive clearer guidance on what they need to do to start editing again. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T357118] * Later this week, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/VisualEditor/Suggestion Mode|Suggestion Mode]] will become available as a beta feature within the visual editor at all Wikipedias. This feature proactively suggests various types of actions that people can consider taking to improve Wikipedia articles, and learn about related guidelines. The feature is locally configurable, and can also be locally expanded with custom Suggestions. Current settings can be seen at [[Special:EditChecks]] and there are [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Suggestion mode#For administrators %E2%80%93 local customization|instructions for how administrators can customize]] the links to point to local guidelines. The feature is connected to [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Edit check|Edit check]] which suggests improvements while someone is writing new content. In the future, the Editing team plans to evaluate the feature's impact with newcomers through a controlled experiment. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T404600] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:23}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:23|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the issue where the cursor became misaligned during the use of CodeMirror’s syntax highlighting, which makes wikitext and code easier to read, has now been fixed. This problem specifically affected users who defined a font rule in a custom stylesheet while creating a new topic with DiscussionTools. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418793] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * API rate limiting update: To help ensure [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/MediaWiki Product Insights/Responsible Reuse|fair use of infrastructure]], global API rate limits will be applied this week to requests without a compliant User-Agent that originate from outside Toolforge/WMCS and to unauthenticated requests made from web browsers. Higher limits will be applied to identified traffic in April. Bots running in Toolforge/WMCS or with the bot user right on any wiki should not be affected for now. However, all developers are advised to follow updated best practices. For more information, see [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits|Wikimedia APIs/Rate limits]]. * The new GraphQL API has been released. The API was developed as a flexible alternative to select features of the Wikidata Query Service (WDQS), to improve developer experience and foster adaptability, and efficient data access. Try it out and [[d:Wikidata:Wikibase GraphQL#Feedback and development|give feedback]]. You can also [https://greatquestion.co/wikimediadeutschland/GraphQLAPI/apply sign up for usability tests]. * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group|PTAC Unsupported Tools Working Group]] continued improvements to [[commons:Special:MyLanguage/Commons:Video2commons#|Video2Commons]] in February, with fixes addressing authentication errors, large-file handling, task queue visibility, and clearer upload behavior. Work is still ongoing in some areas, including changes related to deprecated server-side uploads. Read [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Product and Technology Advisory Council/Unsupported Tools Working Group#February 2026|this update]] to learn more. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.19|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The Article Guidance team invites experienced Wikipedia editors from selected [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance/Pilot wikis and collaborators#Collaborators|pilot wikis]] and interested contributors from other Wikipedias to fill out this questionnaire which is available in [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfmLeVWnxmsCbPoI_UF2jyRcn73WRGWCVPHzerXb4Cz97X_Ag/viewform English], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6rzr4XXQw8r4024fE3geTPFe13M_6w7Mitj-YJi0sOlWTAw/viewform?usp=header Arabic], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdok3-RfB18lcugYTUMGkpwmqG_8p760Wv4dCXitOXOszjUDw/viewform?usp=header Bengali], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfjTfYp4jEo0akA4B1e-Nfg3QZPCudUjhJzHzzDi6AHyAaMGA/viewform?usp=header Japanese], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScteVoI29Aue4xc72dekk-6RYtvmMgQxzMI900UOawrFrSTWg/viewform?usp=header Portuguese], [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSetdxnYwL3ub2vqA7awCg5hJZPMIYcDPaiTe12rY9h0GYnVlw/viewform?usp=header Persian], and [https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScNvfJF-Ot-4pzA4qAN771_0QDJ4Li19YcUsaTgSKW8Nc7U_Q/viewform?usp=header Turkish]. Your answers will help the team customize guidance for less experienced editors and help them learn community policies and practices while creating an article. Learn more [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Article guidance|on the project page]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/11|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W11"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 9 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30213008 --> == archive.today == Bij verwijzing naar online bronnen is het vaak nuttig ook een archieflink aan te maken, vooral bij websites die zelf niet als archief zijn bedoeld. Voor dit doel wordt op WikiWoordenboek meestal het Internet Archive (archive.org) gebruikt. Daarnaast gebruiken we soms ook wel het daarvan los staande archive.today of een van zijn mirrorsites (meestal archive.ph). Het gebruik van archive.today en zijn mirrors is [[meta:Archive.today_incident|op Wikimediaprojecten omstreden]] geworden. De eigenaar van archive.today kreeg een ruzie met een blogger en ging er toen toe over om gebruikers van archive.today via wat code ongemerkt ook loze html-oproepen aan het blog te laten sturen, zodat het raadplegen daarvan werd bemoeilijkt. Daarnaast werd ook duidelijk dat hij op archive.today opgeslagen archiefpagina's van een eigen site had aangepast. Voor sommige Wikimediaprojecten waren dit voldoende redenen om helemaal geen gebruik meer te maken van archive.today, andere projecten kiezen voor minder vergaande beperkingen. De WMF laat deze kwestie voor dit moment over aan de afzonderlijke projecten, maar sluit niet uit dit in de toekomst zal veranderen. Op WikiWoordenboek is de situatie vrij overzichtelijk, omdat we hier vooral archive.org gebruiken: er zijn vele duizenden pagina's die naar die site verwijzen en nog geen 130 waar archive.today is gebruikt. Daarbij zitten echter wel een aantal pagina's die zich niet via archive.org laten archiveren. Soms lijkt dit een technische kwestie, maar er wordt in sommige gevallen ook expliciet aangegeven dat een site niet via archive.org wil worden vastgelegd omdat zo'n archiefpagina kan worden gebruikt om kunstmatige intelligentie te trainen. In dat soort gevallen lijken de voordelen van archivering via archive.today mij groter dat het weglaten van een archieflink of van de hele verwijzing. Mijn pragmatische voorstel is daarom als volgt: # We spreken af om in principe archive.org voor archieflinks te gebruiken. Indien mogelijk wordt een bestaande archieflink naar archive.today vervangen door een equivalent op archive.org. # In gevallen waarin een onvervangbare bron of vindplaats zich niet op die manier laat archiveren, wordt archive.'''ph''' gebruikt. Op die manier houden we goed overzicht van het gebruik van archive.today. Voor de bestaande links heb ik dit klusje al uitgevoerd. De keus voor deze mirror is ingegeven doordat dit het minste werk opleverde. # We maken geen gebruik meer van de overige sites van archive.today en voegen die toe aan de lijst van sites waar niet naartoe kan worden gelinkt. # We verzoeken de WMF uitdrukkelijk om bij het doorvoeren van meer ingrijpende maatregelen eerst een voorziening te treffen voor pagina's die niet op archive.org kunnen worden bewaard. Mij staat voor ogen om de komende 4 weken de reacties af te wachten en afhankelijk daarvan 3. en 4. uit te voeren. Met het oog op dat laatste punt ben ik wel al bezig met de vervangingen onder 1. omdat er zo een beter beeld ontstaat van de sites waar het om gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 13:11 (CET) :Nee, de kwestie is niet slechts een ruzie. De blog heeft door middel van doxing geprobeerd de eigenaar van archive.today onder druk te zetten. Het raadplegen van de blog is niet bemoeilijkt en is niet uitgevallen. :Voor veel Nederlandstalige bronnen is archive.today de enige manier om te archiveren. Ook de Internet Archive heeft regelmatig last van storingen. Ik pleit daarom voor diversificatie in plaats van minimalisatie. In andere woorden, dat bronnen in zo veel mogelijk archiefsites worden opgeslagen. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 13:02 (CET) == Save the Date: zaterdag 20 juni 2026 Verjaardagsfeest Wikipedia 25 jaar! == Op 19 juni bestaat de Nederlandstalige Wikipedia precies 25 jaar en dat willen we vieren! Daarom nodigen we je van harte uit voor het verjaardagsfeest op zaterdag 20 juni van 12:00 tot 17:00 uur bij restaurant LE:EN in Utrecht. Inschrijving is geopend! Op [[wmnl:Verjaardagsfeest_Wikipedia_25_jaar!|deze pagina]] vind je meer informatie alsmede het inschrijfformulier. We hopen dat je erbij kunt zijn en kijken ernaar uit je te mogen verwelkomen. Tot dan! Met vriendelijke groet, Team Wikimedia Nederland [[Gebruiker:JansenKirsten|JansenKirsten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JansenKirsten|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:53 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-12</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W12"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translations]] are available. '''Updates for editors''' * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature, also known as [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror 6]], has been used for wikitext syntax highlighting since November 2024. It will be promoted out of beta by May 2026 in order to bring improvements and new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror#Features|features]] to all editors who use the standard syntax highlighter. If you have any questions or concerns about promoting the feature out of beta, [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|please share]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259059] * Some changes to local user groups are performed by stewards on Meta-Wiki and logged there only. Now, interwiki rights changes will be logged both on Meta-Wiki and the wiki of the target user to make it easier to access a full record of user's rights changes on a local wiki. Past log entries for such changes will be backfilled in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T6055] * On wikis using [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Flagged Revisions|Flagged Revisions]], the number of pending changes shown on [[{{#Special:PendingChanges}}]] previously counted pages which were no longer pending review, because they have been removed from the system without being reviewed, e.g. due to being deleted, moved to a different namespace, or due to wiki configuration changes. The count will be correct now. On some wikis the number shown will be much smaller than before. There should be no change to the list of pages itself. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T413016] * Wikifunctions composition language has been rewritten, resulting in a new version of the language. This change aims to increase service stability by reducing the orchestrator's memory consumption. This rewrite also enables substantial latency reduction, code simplification, and better abstractions, which will open the door to later feature additions. Read more about [[f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2026-03-11|the changes]]. * Users can now sort search results alphabetically by page title. The update gives an additional option to finding pages more easily and quickly. Previously, results could be sorted by Edit date, Creation date, or Relevance. To use the new option, open 'Advanced Search' on the search results page and select 'Alphabetically' under 'Sorting Order'. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T403775] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:28}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:28|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons from importing files from Flickr has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419263] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * A new special page, [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}]], has been created to list transcluded pages that are flagged as containing lint errors to help users discover them easily. The list is sorted by the number of transclusions with errors. For example: [[{{#special:LintTemplateErrors}}/night-mode-unaware-background-color]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170874] * Users of the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:CodeMirror|{{int:codemirror-beta-feature-title}}]] beta feature have been using [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] instead of [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeEditor|CodeEditor]] for syntax highlighting when editing JavaScript, CSS, JSON, Vue and Lua content pages, for some time now. Along with promoting CodeMirror 6 out of beta, the plan is to replace CodeEditor as the standard editor for these content models by May 2026. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help talk:Extension:CodeMirror|Feedback or concerns are welcome]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419332] * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror|CodeMirror]] JavaScript modules will soon be upgraded to CodeMirror 6. Leading up to the upgrade, loading the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror</code> or <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.lib</code> modules from gadgets and user scripts was deprecated in July 2025. The use of the <code dir=ltr>ext.CodeMirror.switch</code> hook was also deprecated in March 2025. Contributors can now make their scripts or gadgets compatible with CodeMirror 6. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CodeMirror#Gadgets and user scripts|migration guide]] for more information. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T373720] * The MediaWiki Interfaces team is expanding coverage of REST API module definitions to include [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/API:REST API/Extensions|extension APIs]]. REST API modules are groups of related endpoints that can be independently managed and versioned. Modules now exist for [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T414470 GrowthExperiments] and [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419053 Wikifunctions] APIs. As we migrate extension APIs to this structure, documentation will move out of the main MediaWiki OpenAPI spec and REST Sandbox view, and will instead be accessible via module-specific options in the dropdown on the [https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RestSandbox REST Sandbox] (i.e., [[{{#Special:RestSandbox}}]], available on all wiki projects). * The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto|Scribunto]] extension provides different pieces of information about the wiki where the module is being used via the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual|mw.site]] library. Starting last week, the library also provides a [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual#mw.site.wikiId|way]] of accessing the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Wiki ID|wiki ID]] that can be used to facilitate cross-wiki module maintenance. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146616] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.20|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * The [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Coolest Tool Award|2026 Coolest Tool Award]] celebrating outstanding community tools, is now open for nominations! Nominate your favorite tool using the [https://wikimediafoundation.limesurvey.net/435684?lang=en nomination survey] form by 23 March 2026. For more information on privacy and data handling, please see the [[foundation:Special:MyLanguage/Legal:Coolest_Tool_Award_2026_Survey_Privacy_Statement|survey privacy statement]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/12|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W12"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 16 mrt 2026 20:35 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30260505 --> == Beursaanvraag Wikimania 2026 geopend == Van 21 - 25 juli vindt [[wikimania:2026:Wikimania|Wikimania]] in Parijs plaats, de jaarlijkse wereldwijde conferentie voor iedereen die betrokken is bij een of meerdere Wikimedia-projecten. Wikimedia Nederland stelt een beperkt aantal beurzen beschikbaar voor reis- en verblijfskosten voor het hoofdprogramma van 23–25 juli. Je kunt tot uiterlijk zondag 12 april een beurs aanvragen. [[wmnl:Wikimania_2026|Meer informatie over de beursaanvraag vind je op de verenigingswiki]]. Wikimedia Nederland [[Gebruiker:JansenKirsten|JansenKirsten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JansenKirsten|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:12 (CET) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-13</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W13"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * Wikimedia site users can now log in without a password using passkeys. This is a secure method supported by fingerprint, facial recognition, or PIN. With this change, all users who opt for passwordless login will find it easier, faster, and more secure to log in to their accounts using any device. The new passkey login option currently appears as an autofill suggestion in the username field. An additional [[phab:T417120|"Log in with passkey" button]] will soon be available for users who have already registered a passkey. This update will improve security and user experience. The [[c:File:Passwordless_login_screencast.webm|screen recording]] demonstrates the passwordless login process step by step. * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch|All wikis will be read-only]] for a few minutes on Wednesday, 25 March 2026 at [https://zonestamp.toolforge.org/1774450800 15:00 UTC]. This is for the datacenter server switchover backup tests, [[wikitech:Deployments/Yearly calendar|which happen twice a year]]. During the switchover, all Wikimedia website traffic is shifted from one primary data center to the backup data center to test availability and prevent service disruption even in emergencies. '''Updates for editors''' * Wikimedia site users can now export their notifications older than 5 years using a [[toolforge:echo-chamber|new Toolforge tool]]. This will ensure that users retain their important notifications and avoid them being lost based on the planned change to delete notifications older than 5 years, as previously announced. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T383948] * Wikipedia editors in Indonesian, Thai, Turkish, and Simple English now have access to Special:PersonalDashboard. This is an [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Moderator Tools/Dashboard|early version of an experience]] that introduces newer editors to patrolling workflows, making it easier for them to move from making edits to participating in more advanced moderation work on their project. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T402647] * The [[Special:Block]] now has two minor interface changes. Administrators can now easily perform indefinite blocks through a dedicated radio button in the expiry section. Also, choosing an indefinite expiry provides a different set of common reasons to select from, which can be changed at: [[MediaWiki:Ipbreason-indef-dropdown]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T401823] * Mobile editors [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments#Logged-out|at several wikis]] can now see an improved logged-out edit warning, thanks to the recent updates from the Growth team. These changes released last week are part of ongoing efforts and tests to enhance [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments|account creation experience on mobile]] and then increase participation. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T408484] * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:36}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:36|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, the bug that prevented mobile web users from seeing the block information when affected by multiple blocks has been fixed. They can now see messages of all the blocks currently affecting them when they access Wikipedia. '''Updates for technical contributors''' * Images built using Toolforge will soon get the upgraded buildpacks version, bringing support for newer language versions and other upstream improvements and fixes. If you use Toolforge Build Service, review the recent [https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/cloud-announce@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/EMYTA32EV2V5SQ2JIEOD2CL66YFIZEKV/ cloud-announce email] and update your build configuration as necessary to ensure your tools are compatible. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Toolforge/Building_container_images&oldid=2392097#Buildpack_environment_upgrade_process][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T380127] * The [https://api.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page API Portal] documentation wiki will shut down in June 2026. API keys created on the API Portal will continue to work normally. api.wikimedia.org endpoints will be deprecated gradually starting in July 2026. Documentation on the API Portal is moving to [[mw:Wikimedia APIs|mediawiki.org]]. Learn more on the [[wikitech:API Portal/Deprecation|project page]]. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.21|MediaWiki]] '''In depth''' * [[m:Special:MyLanguage/WMDE Technical Wishes|WMDE Technical Wishes]] is considering improvements to [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names|automatically generated reference names in VisualEditor]]. Please check out the [[m:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Proposed solutions|proposed solutions]] and participate in the [[m:Talk:WMDE Technical Wishes/References/VisualEditor automatic reference names#Request for comment|request for comment]]. '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/13|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W13"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 23 mrt 2026 17:51 (CET) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:UOzurumba (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30268305 --> == Kandidatuur Latijn als moderator == [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] heeft zich 26 maart {{WikiW|Aanmelding_moderators#Latijn|kandidaat gesteld als moderator}}, zonder hiervan in De Kroeg melding te maken. Het is aannemelijk dat Latijn niet wist dat dit goed gebruik is, vandaar dat ik dat nu maar doe. Het is in mijn ogen wel een indicatie dat er gewoon nog onvoldoende ervaring aanwezig is om moderator te worden. Een echte contra-indicatie is in mijn ogen het volgende: op 29 maart 16:46 is er een nieuw account [[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] aangemaakt. Dit account heeft in de hele Wikimediawereld precies twee bewerkingen gedaan: om 16:47 [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Latijn&diff=prev&oldid=5503673 deze bewerking] op de overlegpagina van Latijn, die om 17:38 door Latijn ongedaan is gemaakt, gevolgd door [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding_moderators&diff=prev&oldid=5503753 een stem voor Latijn als moderator] om 18:17, die door mij inmiddels om een voor de hand liggende reden ongeldig is verklaard. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:20 (CEST) :is het nu geldig [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:22 (CEST) ::Kiezen Jochenknabben, Kvdrgeus en Marcel coenders voor of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 15:57 (CEST) :::wat is voor, en wat is tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:44 (CEST) == <span lang="en" dir="ltr">Tech News: 2026-14</span> == <div lang="en" dir="ltr"> <section begin="technews-2026-W14"/><div class="plainlinks"> Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/14|Translations]] are available. '''Weekly highlight''' * The Beta version of [[abstract:|Abstract Wikipedia]] a new Wikimedia project which is language-independent, was launched last week. The project allows communities to build Wikipedia articles in their native language, which can be readily accessed by other users in their own languages. The wiki is powered by instructions from Wikifunctions and also based on structured content from Wikidata. [[:f:Special:MyLanguage/Wikifunctions:Status updates/2026-03-26|Read more]]. '''Updates for editors''' * The Growth team is running an A/B test to evaluate a clearer, more user-friendly message that promotes account creation on wikis. Currently when logged-out mobile users begin editing, they see a jarring warning message that can feel abrupt and discouraging. This also presents temporary account editing as the default rather than encouraging account creation. The test is running on ten Wikipedias, including Arabic, French, Spanish and German. [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Contributors/Account Creation Experiments#2. Improve logged-out warning message (T415160)|Read more]]. * The Wikimedia Apps team is inviting feedback on [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Future of Editing on the Mobile Apps|how editing should work on the Wikipedia mobile apps]]. The discussion focuses on improving how users access editing tools when they tap "Edit". This is part of a broader effort to convert readers who develop an interest in editing, to access a more user-friendly pathway to start contributing. * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] View all {{formatnum:45}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:45|task|tasks}} that were [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Recently resolved community tasks|resolved last week]]. For example, an issue where citation fetching from the large newspaper archive [https://www.newspapers.com Newspapers.com] was no longer working, due to a block in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Citoid|Citoid]] requests, has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T419903] '''Updates for technical contributors''' * [[File:Reload icon with two arrows.svg|12px|link=|class=skin-invert|Recurrent item]] Detailed code updates later this week: [[mw:MediaWiki 1.46/wmf.22|MediaWiki]] '''''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|Tech news]]''' prepared by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/Writers|Tech News writers]] and posted by [[m:Special:MyLanguage/User:MediaWiki message delivery|bot]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News#contribute|Contribute]]&nbsp;• [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2026/14|Translate]]&nbsp;• [[m:Tech|Get help]]&nbsp;• [[m:Talk:Tech/News|Give feedback]]&nbsp;• [[m:Global message delivery/Targets/Tech ambassadors|Subscribe or unsubscribe]].'' </div><section end="technews-2026-W14"/> </div> <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">[[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]]</bdi> 30 mrt 2026 21:25 (CEST) <!-- Bericht verzonden door User:STei (WMF)@metawiki via de lijst op de pagina https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Global_message_delivery/Targets/Tech_ambassadors&oldid=30329462 --> i9fe4jibj6pmh5vempcmoizbz37a26f 4 2827 5504187 5430286 2026-03-30T21:00:34Z Latijn 65243 /* Aanmelding moderators */ nieuwe subkop 5504187 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Helpdesk]] __NEWSECTIONLINK__ <div style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: inherit; border: 0.1em solid #a2a9b1;border-radius: 0.3em; padding: 0.5em 4.0em; margin: 0.5em 0 0 0;> <div style="font-size: 140%; text-align: center; margin: 0 auto;">Welkom bij de helpdesk van WikiWoordenboek!</div> Hieronder kun je gewenste verbeteringen melden en vragen stellen over het WikiWoordenboek. Deze meldingen en vragen zijn welkom, want ze helpen ons om WikiWoordenboek steeds te blijven verbeteren. WikiWoordenboek wordt door vrijwilligers gemaakt. Hoe snel we hieronder antwoorden kan daardoor verschillen van 50 seconden tot 50 uur. Vaak gestelde vragen kun je [[WikiWoordenboek:Veelgestelde vragen|'''hier''']] vinden. <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2004-2010|2004-2010]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016-2020|2016-2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021-2023|2021-2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|heden]] </div><section end=nav/><!-- *[[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/1|archief1]] oude archief --> </div> <div class=plainlinks style="background-color: #fef6e7; color:inherit; border: 0.1em solid #72777d; padding: 0 2.0em; margin: 0.5em 0; font-size: 120%; text-align: center;"> '''[http://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk&action=edit&section=new Klik hier om een fout te rapporteren of een vraag te stellen.]''' </div> == DE / HET weergave in het woord sjabloon == het zou handig zijn als in het woord sjabloon ook het lidwoord zou worden vermeld. Dan is het wikiwoordenboek ook geschikt voor Nt2 leerlingen. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/84.241.207.238|84.241.207.238]] 16 feb 2024 15:02 (CET) :In principe staat naast een woord het geslacht, waaruit het lidwoord volgt. Neem bijvoorbeeld de pagina [[huis]], daar staat "o" achter (bij de betekenissen). Het woord is dus onzijdig en heeft als lidwoord "het". [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 16 feb 2024 18:43 (CET) ::Ik kan me indenken dat voor iemand die Nederlands als tweede taal leert de stappen van "o" achter het woord, via het begrip "onzijdig" naar "het" voor het woord niet zo eenvoudig zijn. Als je moedertaal geen woordgeslachten kent, is het toch wel een beetje een zoekplaatje. Het is vermoedelijk de reden dat steeds meer Nederlandse woordenboeken ook het lidwoord bij een zelfstandig naamwoord vermelden en niet alleen de afkorting voor het wooordgeslacht. ::Een vergelijkbare benadering op WikiWoordenboek zou wel meer werk zijn dan het simpel aanpassen van een sjabloon. Maar als we het echt willen, is het een wel een uitvoerbare klus. Om te beginnen ben ik daarom benieuwd hoe bewerkers die veel Nederlandse lemma's toevoegen zoals @[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] en @[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] tegen zo'n verandering aankijken. Afhankelijk van hun kijk op de zaak zouden we dan al of niet een voorstel in De kroeg kunnen voorleggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 feb 2024 12:28 (CET) ::::Ha,ha Toen ik op Tenerife ging wonen en Spaans moest leren, heb ik een woordenboek gemaakt waar ik eigenlijk wat de lidwoorden betreft precies hetzelfde principe heb toegepast. ::::Gelukkig had ik een gebrek aan theoretische taalkennis maar ben ik wel praktisch dus kwam ik met de oplossing zoals je o.a. op de volgende pagina kunt zien: :::::http://folawep.com/fourlang/nl/zsn_nl_Aakaaaaaaa.htm ::::Dit woordenboek wordt al heel lang niet meer door mij onderhouden. ::::Ik kwam toen in aanraking met het Spaanse Wikcionario en heb daar de nodige bijdragen geleverd, daarna ben ik naar het Wikiwoordenboek gemigreerd (en daarna naar de Wikipedia) ::::Een ander onpraktisch punt van toen bestaande papieren woordenboeken vond ik dat de verbuigingen niet alfabetisch opzoekbaar waren. ::::Ik heb dat toen al meteen meegenomen zoals dat ook in het Wikiwoordenboek gebeurt ::::(Voorbeeld queráis is verbuiging van het werkwoord querer zoals op pagina http://folawep.com/fourlang/nl/zsn_es_Queraaaaaa.htm blijkt) ::::en trouwens als je nog Spaans wilt leren kun je op mijn oude site ook nog Spaanse boeken lezen met (tamelijk primitieve) toelichting :::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 17 feb 2024 12:45 (CET) :::Zou het toch niet mogelijk zijn om sjabloon zo te veranderen dan er bijvoorbeeld m/v (de), m (de), v (de), o (het) wordt weergegeven of zelfs omgekeerd '''de''' (m/v), '''het''' (o) enz. Ik heb het net even uitgeprobeerd lijkt wel te werken. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 17 feb 2024 21:15 (CET) ::::Het lastige van die oplossing is dat {{Tl|m}}, {{Tl|f}} en {{Tl|n}} ook worden gebruikt voor andere talen dan het Nederlands. Maar ik begrijp in ieder geval dat er enig draagvlak is om te zien hoe we de lidwoorden kunnen toevoegen. Als jullie het goed vinden, ga ik nu even studeren wat daarvoor de meest doelmatige oplossing is en kom dan komende week met een voorstel in De Kroeg. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 feb 2024 21:43 (CET) *Mijn voorstel staat nu in {{WikiW|De_Kroeg/2024#Lidwoord_vermelden_bij_Nederlandse_zelfstandige_naamwoorden|De Kroeg}}. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 feb 2024 18:46 (CET) == Taalkoppeling == Heb aangemaakt [[tyflologie]]. Niet kunnen vinden hoe je een taalkoppeling maakt. Het woord is bv bekend in https://ro.wiktionary.org/wiki/tiflologie en als afleiding in https://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/tiflol%C3%B3gico [[Gebruiker:Robberd77|Robberd77]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Robberd77|overleg]]) 15 aug 2024 17:04 (CEST) Andere vraag: heeft het zin voor [[tyflologie]] een redirect te maken vanuit "tiflologie"? En dan ook <nowiki>#DOORVERWIJZING [[X]]</nowiki> of <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[X]]</nowiki>? :De laatste vraag laat zich het eenvoudigst beantwoorden: WikiWoordenboek gebruikt als regel geen redirects in de hoofdnaamruimte. We beschrijven immers woorden uit alle talen en het is nooit op voorhand zeker dat zo'n redirect voor alle talen van toepassing is. Als een bepaalde schrijfwijze ooit officieel is geweest, of voldoende gangbaar voordat er een officiële spelling bestond, krijgt die schrijfwijze gewoon een eigen lemma. :Om een woord op te nemen is het wel een vereiste dat het in het taalgebruik voorkomt. Dat is doorgaans het geval als het woord voorkomt in algemene woordenboeken of gespecialiseerde woordenlijsten die voldoende betrouwbaar zijn. Daarnaast kan het ook worden aangetoond doordat minstens drie publicaties in verzorgd Nederlands een woord onafhankelijk van elkaar in een gewone zin gebruiken. Met "tyflologie" is mij dat op geen enkele manier gelukt. Om die reden heb ik het voorlopig verplaatst naar {{WikiW|Protologisme/tyflologie}}. Kun je een woordenboek of drie vindplaatsen voor het woord in het Nederlands aandragen? Dan voegen we die aan het lemma toe en kan het terug naar de hoofdnaamruimte. :WikiWoordenboek kent twee soorten taalkoppelingen. #Er zijn in het menu rechtsboven koppelingen naar het exact hetzelfde gespelde woord zoals dat in andere wiktionary's is opgenomen. Het kan hierbij (ook) gaan om vormen in andere talen met mogelijk een heel andere betekenis. Deze koppelingen komen geheel automatisch tot stand, je ziet ze vanzelf verschijnen. #Bij woorden in het Nederlands is er ook een sectie ''Vertalingen'' waarin per betekenis de synoniemen in andere talen worden vermeld. Dit zijn in de eerste plaats links naar een lemma op WikiWoordenboek zelf, maar die wordt gevolgd door een taalcode in superscript die een link is naar dat woord op de wiktionary in de betreffende taal. Beide links worden door het sjabloon {{Tl|trad}} aangemaakt als je vertalingen toevoegt. Een onvolkomenheid in de Wikimediaprogrammatuur is dat zo'n link naar een andere wiktionary altijd blauw is, ook als de pagina daar nog niet bestaat. :Ik hoop dat je iets aan deze antwoorden hebt, als iets onduidelijk is, laat het gerust weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 aug 2024 11:24 (CEST) :Hi [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], bedankt voor je uitgebreide toelichting! OK, geen redirect, geen neologismen op wkwdb, misschien later, zie [[:it:Tiflologia]] (+ 5 talen). Achtergrond van het lemma was mijn nieuw wp-artikel {{w|nl|Tyflologisch museum|Tyflologisch museum}} (https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyflologisch_museum), een blindenmuseum. Kom ik alsnog bronnen met “tyflologie” tegen, dan bekijken we het opnieuw. [[Gebruiker:Robberd77|Robberd77]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Robberd77|overleg]]) 18 aug 2024 10:58 (CEST) ::Ik heb het protologisme nog wat opgepoetst, zodat het klaar is voor verplaatsing naar de hoofdnaamruimte zodra er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 aug 2024 09:54 (CEST) == Korte AWB-run == Hoi, is er hier iemand die AWB heeft geactiveerd op deze wiki en even in twee minuutjes de 33 gevallen met "instaat" wil langsgaan en een spatie wil toevoegen waar nodig? (Ik zie aardig veel fouten in die 33 namelijk en ~20 is mij handmatig net wat te veel.) Mvg, [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 1 okt 2024 17:04 (CEST) :Uitgevoerd, al was het handmatig. Er zaten nogal wat gevallen bij waar de complete betekenisomschrijving van het Nederlandse trefwoord weer was gebruikt bij een vertaling: in die gevallen verdient een eenvoudige link de voorkeur, juist om fouten als deze eenvoudiger op te lossen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2024 18:18 (CEST) ::Aha bedankt! Weer wat geleerd. [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 8 okt 2024 00:21 (CEST) == chique als zelfstandig naamwoord == Als ik in de (gratis) online Van Dale "chique" zoek, krijg ik de indruk door de vermelding "chi·que zie 1chic" dat chique dezelfde betekenissen heeft als die daarboven staan aangegeven bij "1chic", dus "zwier, elegantie" en "de mensen die chic zijn". Heb ik dat goed? Dan zou ik die betekenis namelijk willen toevoegen aan [[chique]]. Bvd en mvg, [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 14 okt 2024 22:24 (CEST) :Ik vermoed dat de verwijzing ²chic had moeten zijn, waar de vorm wordt vermeld als verbuiging van het bijvoeglijk naamwoord. Uit [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=chic woordenlijst.org] valt op te maken dat het zelfstandig naamwoord altijd [[chic]] wordt geschreven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2024 00:46 (CEST) ::Bedankt! Dan is er du geen aanpassing nodig. [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 18 okt 2024 22:13 (CEST) == Rare zin == Hoi, kan iemand deze zin op [[Sjabloon:-verb-]] verbeteren? Die loopt namelijk niet goed. Ik weet niet 100% zeker wat er bedoeld wordt en heb niet de rechten om een bewerking te doen op die pagina. "''... en is bedoeld voor talen waarvoor geen verdere sjablonen bezitten die de vormen van het naamwoord in een tabel weergeven ...''" Mvg, [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 12 feb 2025 00:10 (CET) :Bedankt voor de tip. Ik vermoed dat in die zin "we" is weggevallen. De hele tekst komt uit de tijd dat de categorisering van woordsoorten nog niet standaard via de woordsoortsjablonen gebeurde en dit soort uitleg dus nodig was. Op dit moment is de hele tekst achterhaald. De taalparameter kan hoe dan ook niet worden weggelaten: als het om het trefwoord gaat, waar de betekenis wordt beschreven is de drielettercode een verplichte parameter en als het om een verbogen vorm gaat, moet als parameter '''0''' worden ingevuld. Ik heb de documentatie wat bijgewerkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2025 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het oplossen en de uitleg. [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 12 feb 2025 17:35 (CET) == DBUnexpectedError == Ik krijg al een paar dagen regelmatig de melding: [3fcb2283-9203-4c5c-806b-cbec910c45f4] 2025-03-13 12:20:24: Fatale fout van type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBUnexpectedError"<br> Laatste keer was bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=meekunnen&action=submit<br> Komt dit soort meldingen niet automatisch bij jullie terecht? [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2025 13:21 (CET) == Uitspraak [[steker]] == Hoi, het bestand met de uitspraak op [[steker]] is goed gelinkt, maar de uitspraak lijkt me niet te kloppen: er wordt "sterker" gezegd. De geluidsopname is niet per ongeluk gewisseld met die van sterker. [[:Bestand:nl-steker.ogg]]: [[Bestand:nl-steker.ogg]] [[:Bestand:nl-sterker.ogg]]: [[Bestand:nl-sterker.ogg]] Mvg, [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 31 jul 2025 11:37 (CEST) :Ik vermoed dat {{ping|Marcel coenders}} dit kan oplossen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jul 2025 18:25 (CEST) == Meer dan 1 miljoen pagina's op WikiWoordenboek == Hoi Wikianen, Op 1 mei 2004 is WikiWoordenboek begonnen als het Nederlandstalige deel van Wiktionary. Ik heb mogen meewerken in de eerste jaren aan de hoofdpagina en het opzetten van vertalingen. Dat was hartstikke leuk en nuttig werk om te doen. Momenteel ben ik vooral aan gebruiker, en terwijl een woord op zocht, zag ik dat inmiddels de miljoen pagina's inmiddels gepasseerd zijn. Dit was ruim 20 jaar geleden nauwelijks te bevatten. Ik wil hierbij graag het huidige team (en iedereen die een bijdrage heeft geleverd) feliciteren en bedanken! Mvg, Raymond Meester [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2026-51391|&#126;2026-51391]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2026-51391|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 15:02 (CET) :De dank is helemaal wederzijds. Ik herinner me jou nog uit mijn allereerste beginjaren toen ik WikiWoordenboek nog aan het verkennen was en met veel ontzag keek naar de fraaie staaltjes die meer ervaren bewerkers lieten zien. Het toeval wil dat ik zelf in 2020 weer heb gewerkt aan de aanpassing van de Hoofdpagina die toen nodig was omdat de programmatuur meer rekening ging houden met lezers die een mobieltje gebruiken. Ik hoop dat de poging om de sterke punten van de oude Hoofdpagina te behouden ook recht doet aan het werk dat je er indertijd aan verricht hebt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 23:21 (CET) == Aanmelding moderators == Kiezen @[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], @[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] en @[[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 23:00 (CEST) tl2efsix0tblx9mlm516ln6pkzhv5tq 5504243 5504187 2026-03-31T10:07:34Z MarcoSwart 9001 Dit is geen vraag over WikiWoordenboek 5504243 wikitext text/x-wiki [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Helpdesk]] __NEWSECTIONLINK__ <div style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: inherit; border: 0.1em solid #a2a9b1;border-radius: 0.3em; padding: 0.5em 4.0em; margin: 0.5em 0 0 0;> <div style="font-size: 140%; text-align: center; margin: 0 auto;">Welkom bij de helpdesk van WikiWoordenboek!</div> Hieronder kun je gewenste verbeteringen melden en vragen stellen over het WikiWoordenboek. Deze meldingen en vragen zijn welkom, want ze helpen ons om WikiWoordenboek steeds te blijven verbeteren. WikiWoordenboek wordt door vrijwilligers gemaakt. Hoe snel we hieronder antwoorden kan daardoor verschillen van 50 seconden tot 50 uur. Vaak gestelde vragen kun je [[WikiWoordenboek:Veelgestelde vragen|'''hier''']] vinden. <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2004-2010|2004-2010]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016-2020|2016-2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021-2023|2021-2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|heden]] </div><section end=nav/><!-- *[[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/1|archief1]] oude archief --> </div> <div class=plainlinks style="background-color: #fef6e7; color:inherit; border: 0.1em solid #72777d; padding: 0 2.0em; margin: 0.5em 0; font-size: 120%; text-align: center;"> '''[http://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk&action=edit&section=new Klik hier om een fout te rapporteren of een vraag te stellen.]''' </div> == DE / HET weergave in het woord sjabloon == het zou handig zijn als in het woord sjabloon ook het lidwoord zou worden vermeld. Dan is het wikiwoordenboek ook geschikt voor Nt2 leerlingen. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/84.241.207.238|84.241.207.238]] 16 feb 2024 15:02 (CET) :In principe staat naast een woord het geslacht, waaruit het lidwoord volgt. Neem bijvoorbeeld de pagina [[huis]], daar staat "o" achter (bij de betekenissen). Het woord is dus onzijdig en heeft als lidwoord "het". [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 16 feb 2024 18:43 (CET) ::Ik kan me indenken dat voor iemand die Nederlands als tweede taal leert de stappen van "o" achter het woord, via het begrip "onzijdig" naar "het" voor het woord niet zo eenvoudig zijn. Als je moedertaal geen woordgeslachten kent, is het toch wel een beetje een zoekplaatje. Het is vermoedelijk de reden dat steeds meer Nederlandse woordenboeken ook het lidwoord bij een zelfstandig naamwoord vermelden en niet alleen de afkorting voor het wooordgeslacht. ::Een vergelijkbare benadering op WikiWoordenboek zou wel meer werk zijn dan het simpel aanpassen van een sjabloon. Maar als we het echt willen, is het een wel een uitvoerbare klus. Om te beginnen ben ik daarom benieuwd hoe bewerkers die veel Nederlandse lemma's toevoegen zoals @[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] en @[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] tegen zo'n verandering aankijken. Afhankelijk van hun kijk op de zaak zouden we dan al of niet een voorstel in De kroeg kunnen voorleggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 feb 2024 12:28 (CET) ::::Ha,ha Toen ik op Tenerife ging wonen en Spaans moest leren, heb ik een woordenboek gemaakt waar ik eigenlijk wat de lidwoorden betreft precies hetzelfde principe heb toegepast. ::::Gelukkig had ik een gebrek aan theoretische taalkennis maar ben ik wel praktisch dus kwam ik met de oplossing zoals je o.a. op de volgende pagina kunt zien: :::::http://folawep.com/fourlang/nl/zsn_nl_Aakaaaaaaa.htm ::::Dit woordenboek wordt al heel lang niet meer door mij onderhouden. ::::Ik kwam toen in aanraking met het Spaanse Wikcionario en heb daar de nodige bijdragen geleverd, daarna ben ik naar het Wikiwoordenboek gemigreerd (en daarna naar de Wikipedia) ::::Een ander onpraktisch punt van toen bestaande papieren woordenboeken vond ik dat de verbuigingen niet alfabetisch opzoekbaar waren. ::::Ik heb dat toen al meteen meegenomen zoals dat ook in het Wikiwoordenboek gebeurt ::::(Voorbeeld queráis is verbuiging van het werkwoord querer zoals op pagina http://folawep.com/fourlang/nl/zsn_es_Queraaaaaa.htm blijkt) ::::en trouwens als je nog Spaans wilt leren kun je op mijn oude site ook nog Spaanse boeken lezen met (tamelijk primitieve) toelichting :::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 17 feb 2024 12:45 (CET) :::Zou het toch niet mogelijk zijn om sjabloon zo te veranderen dan er bijvoorbeeld m/v (de), m (de), v (de), o (het) wordt weergegeven of zelfs omgekeerd '''de''' (m/v), '''het''' (o) enz. Ik heb het net even uitgeprobeerd lijkt wel te werken. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 17 feb 2024 21:15 (CET) ::::Het lastige van die oplossing is dat {{Tl|m}}, {{Tl|f}} en {{Tl|n}} ook worden gebruikt voor andere talen dan het Nederlands. Maar ik begrijp in ieder geval dat er enig draagvlak is om te zien hoe we de lidwoorden kunnen toevoegen. Als jullie het goed vinden, ga ik nu even studeren wat daarvoor de meest doelmatige oplossing is en kom dan komende week met een voorstel in De Kroeg. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 feb 2024 21:43 (CET) *Mijn voorstel staat nu in {{WikiW|De_Kroeg/2024#Lidwoord_vermelden_bij_Nederlandse_zelfstandige_naamwoorden|De Kroeg}}. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 feb 2024 18:46 (CET) == Taalkoppeling == Heb aangemaakt [[tyflologie]]. Niet kunnen vinden hoe je een taalkoppeling maakt. Het woord is bv bekend in https://ro.wiktionary.org/wiki/tiflologie en als afleiding in https://es.wiktionary.org/wiki/tiflol%C3%B3gico [[Gebruiker:Robberd77|Robberd77]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Robberd77|overleg]]) 15 aug 2024 17:04 (CEST) Andere vraag: heeft het zin voor [[tyflologie]] een redirect te maken vanuit "tiflologie"? En dan ook <nowiki>#DOORVERWIJZING [[X]]</nowiki> of <nowiki>#REDIRECT [[X]]</nowiki>? :De laatste vraag laat zich het eenvoudigst beantwoorden: WikiWoordenboek gebruikt als regel geen redirects in de hoofdnaamruimte. We beschrijven immers woorden uit alle talen en het is nooit op voorhand zeker dat zo'n redirect voor alle talen van toepassing is. Als een bepaalde schrijfwijze ooit officieel is geweest, of voldoende gangbaar voordat er een officiële spelling bestond, krijgt die schrijfwijze gewoon een eigen lemma. :Om een woord op te nemen is het wel een vereiste dat het in het taalgebruik voorkomt. Dat is doorgaans het geval als het woord voorkomt in algemene woordenboeken of gespecialiseerde woordenlijsten die voldoende betrouwbaar zijn. Daarnaast kan het ook worden aangetoond doordat minstens drie publicaties in verzorgd Nederlands een woord onafhankelijk van elkaar in een gewone zin gebruiken. Met "tyflologie" is mij dat op geen enkele manier gelukt. Om die reden heb ik het voorlopig verplaatst naar {{WikiW|Protologisme/tyflologie}}. Kun je een woordenboek of drie vindplaatsen voor het woord in het Nederlands aandragen? Dan voegen we die aan het lemma toe en kan het terug naar de hoofdnaamruimte. :WikiWoordenboek kent twee soorten taalkoppelingen. #Er zijn in het menu rechtsboven koppelingen naar het exact hetzelfde gespelde woord zoals dat in andere wiktionary's is opgenomen. Het kan hierbij (ook) gaan om vormen in andere talen met mogelijk een heel andere betekenis. Deze koppelingen komen geheel automatisch tot stand, je ziet ze vanzelf verschijnen. #Bij woorden in het Nederlands is er ook een sectie ''Vertalingen'' waarin per betekenis de synoniemen in andere talen worden vermeld. Dit zijn in de eerste plaats links naar een lemma op WikiWoordenboek zelf, maar die wordt gevolgd door een taalcode in superscript die een link is naar dat woord op de wiktionary in de betreffende taal. Beide links worden door het sjabloon {{Tl|trad}} aangemaakt als je vertalingen toevoegt. Een onvolkomenheid in de Wikimediaprogrammatuur is dat zo'n link naar een andere wiktionary altijd blauw is, ook als de pagina daar nog niet bestaat. :Ik hoop dat je iets aan deze antwoorden hebt, als iets onduidelijk is, laat het gerust weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 aug 2024 11:24 (CEST) :Hi [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], bedankt voor je uitgebreide toelichting! OK, geen redirect, geen neologismen op wkwdb, misschien later, zie [[:it:Tiflologia]] (+ 5 talen). Achtergrond van het lemma was mijn nieuw wp-artikel {{w|nl|Tyflologisch museum|Tyflologisch museum}} (https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyflologisch_museum), een blindenmuseum. Kom ik alsnog bronnen met “tyflologie” tegen, dan bekijken we het opnieuw. [[Gebruiker:Robberd77|Robberd77]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Robberd77|overleg]]) 18 aug 2024 10:58 (CEST) ::Ik heb het protologisme nog wat opgepoetst, zodat het klaar is voor verplaatsing naar de hoofdnaamruimte zodra er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 aug 2024 09:54 (CEST) == Korte AWB-run == Hoi, is er hier iemand die AWB heeft geactiveerd op deze wiki en even in twee minuutjes de 33 gevallen met "instaat" wil langsgaan en een spatie wil toevoegen waar nodig? (Ik zie aardig veel fouten in die 33 namelijk en ~20 is mij handmatig net wat te veel.) Mvg, [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 1 okt 2024 17:04 (CEST) :Uitgevoerd, al was het handmatig. Er zaten nogal wat gevallen bij waar de complete betekenisomschrijving van het Nederlandse trefwoord weer was gebruikt bij een vertaling: in die gevallen verdient een eenvoudige link de voorkeur, juist om fouten als deze eenvoudiger op te lossen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2024 18:18 (CEST) ::Aha bedankt! Weer wat geleerd. [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 8 okt 2024 00:21 (CEST) == chique als zelfstandig naamwoord == Als ik in de (gratis) online Van Dale "chique" zoek, krijg ik de indruk door de vermelding "chi·que zie 1chic" dat chique dezelfde betekenissen heeft als die daarboven staan aangegeven bij "1chic", dus "zwier, elegantie" en "de mensen die chic zijn". Heb ik dat goed? Dan zou ik die betekenis namelijk willen toevoegen aan [[chique]]. Bvd en mvg, [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 14 okt 2024 22:24 (CEST) :Ik vermoed dat de verwijzing ²chic had moeten zijn, waar de vorm wordt vermeld als verbuiging van het bijvoeglijk naamwoord. Uit [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=chic woordenlijst.org] valt op te maken dat het zelfstandig naamwoord altijd [[chic]] wordt geschreven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2024 00:46 (CEST) ::Bedankt! Dan is er du geen aanpassing nodig. [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 18 okt 2024 22:13 (CEST) == Rare zin == Hoi, kan iemand deze zin op [[Sjabloon:-verb-]] verbeteren? Die loopt namelijk niet goed. Ik weet niet 100% zeker wat er bedoeld wordt en heb niet de rechten om een bewerking te doen op die pagina. "''... en is bedoeld voor talen waarvoor geen verdere sjablonen bezitten die de vormen van het naamwoord in een tabel weergeven ...''" Mvg, [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 12 feb 2025 00:10 (CET) :Bedankt voor de tip. Ik vermoed dat in die zin "we" is weggevallen. De hele tekst komt uit de tijd dat de categorisering van woordsoorten nog niet standaard via de woordsoortsjablonen gebeurde en dit soort uitleg dus nodig was. Op dit moment is de hele tekst achterhaald. De taalparameter kan hoe dan ook niet worden weggelaten: als het om het trefwoord gaat, waar de betekenis wordt beschreven is de drielettercode een verplichte parameter en als het om een verbogen vorm gaat, moet als parameter '''0''' worden ingevuld. Ik heb de documentatie wat bijgewerkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2025 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het oplossen en de uitleg. [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 12 feb 2025 17:35 (CET) == DBUnexpectedError == Ik krijg al een paar dagen regelmatig de melding: [3fcb2283-9203-4c5c-806b-cbec910c45f4] 2025-03-13 12:20:24: Fatale fout van type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBUnexpectedError"<br> Laatste keer was bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=meekunnen&action=submit<br> Komt dit soort meldingen niet automatisch bij jullie terecht? [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2025 13:21 (CET) == Uitspraak [[steker]] == Hoi, het bestand met de uitspraak op [[steker]] is goed gelinkt, maar de uitspraak lijkt me niet te kloppen: er wordt "sterker" gezegd. De geluidsopname is niet per ongeluk gewisseld met die van sterker. [[:Bestand:nl-steker.ogg]]: [[Bestand:nl-steker.ogg]] [[:Bestand:nl-sterker.ogg]]: [[Bestand:nl-sterker.ogg]] Mvg, [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 31 jul 2025 11:37 (CEST) :Ik vermoed dat {{ping|Marcel coenders}} dit kan oplossen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jul 2025 18:25 (CEST) == Meer dan 1 miljoen pagina's op WikiWoordenboek == Hoi Wikianen, Op 1 mei 2004 is WikiWoordenboek begonnen als het Nederlandstalige deel van Wiktionary. Ik heb mogen meewerken in de eerste jaren aan de hoofdpagina en het opzetten van vertalingen. Dat was hartstikke leuk en nuttig werk om te doen. Momenteel ben ik vooral aan gebruiker, en terwijl een woord op zocht, zag ik dat inmiddels de miljoen pagina's inmiddels gepasseerd zijn. Dit was ruim 20 jaar geleden nauwelijks te bevatten. Ik wil hierbij graag het huidige team (en iedereen die een bijdrage heeft geleverd) feliciteren en bedanken! Mvg, Raymond Meester [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2026-51391|&#126;2026-51391]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2026-51391|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 15:02 (CET) :De dank is helemaal wederzijds. Ik herinner me jou nog uit mijn allereerste beginjaren toen ik WikiWoordenboek nog aan het verkennen was en met veel ontzag keek naar de fraaie staaltjes die meer ervaren bewerkers lieten zien. Het toeval wil dat ik zelf in 2020 weer heb gewerkt aan de aanpassing van de Hoofdpagina die toen nodig was omdat de programmatuur meer rekening ging houden met lezers die een mobieltje gebruiken. Ik hoop dat de poging om de sterke punten van de oude Hoofdpagina te behouden ook recht doet aan het werk dat je er indertijd aan verricht hebt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 23:21 (CET) dja3o3jow1gifpcs0ws5bsqk1fy52aw 0 10401 5504250 5474861 2026-03-31T10:20:48Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504250 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[afbeelding:Dental Caries Cavity 2.JPG|thumb|cariës]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'karijɛs}} {{-syll-}} *ca·ri·es {{-etym-}} * Leenwoord uit het Latijn, in de betekenis van ‘tandbederf’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in het jaar 1867 {{sijs}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|fm}} #{{medisch|nld}} [[aantasting]] van [[tandglazuur]] en het [[tandbeen]] door [[bacterie|bacteriën]] waardoor gaatje in je tanden ontstaan {{bijv-1|Door fluoridebehandeling is [[cariës]] enorm afgenomen.}} {{bijv-1|De man, aan zijn grafgiften te zien een jager, lag in een ondiep graf onder een overhangende rots. De kiezen van de man zijn versleten, wat erop wijst dat hij regelmatig taai en vezelachtig voedsel at. Maar in zijn verstandskies vonden archeologen een andere beschadiging: een door '''{{pn}}''' aangetaste holte met scherpe groeven eromheen.<ref> Lucas Brouwers NRC 15 augustus 2015</ref>}} {{-syn-}} *[[tandbederf]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Karies}} {{f}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|tooth decay}}, {{trad|en|caries}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|carie}} {{trans-mid}} *{{ita}}: {{trad|it|carie}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|caries}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} ktv62neydz5cejlo0409aocr47bdn0s 0 18323 5504225 5377332 2026-03-31T09:00:45Z Lotje 8037 +afbeelding 5504225 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[afbeelding:Bienenkoenigin 43a cropped.jpg|thumb|Een '''bijenkoningin''' tussen de werkbijen".]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈbɛijə(n)ˌkonɪˌɣɪn}} {{-syll-}} *bij·en·ko·nin·gin {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|bij|||koningin|||en}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}nen]]|[[{{pn}}netje]]|[[{{pn}}netjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #{{dierkunde|nld}} {{imkerij|nld}} moeder van alle bijen in een bijenkorf {{bijv-1|De '''{{pn}}''' is vaak groter dan de andere bijen.}} {{-syn-}} *[[moer]] {{-rel-}} *[[bij]], [[bijenhouder]], [[bijenkast]], [[bijensteek]], [[imker]] {{nld-entomologie}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. moeder van alle bijen in een bijenkorf}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Bienenkönigin}} {{f}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|queen bee}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|reine des abeilles}} {{f}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|abeja reina}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} o3163mzm4jfvhabwu73jpql0ih8ex5q 0 18581 5504059 4879682 2026-03-30T15:33:43Z Lotje 8037 beschrijving uitgebreid 5504059 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[Afbeelding:Huismus, man.jpg|thumb|Een '''huismus''' (''Passer domesticus'') ♂]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *huis·mus {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|huis|||mus|}} {{-nlnoun-|huismus|[[{{pn}}sen]]|[[huismusje]]|[[huismusjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|fm}} #{{zangvogels|nld}} {{species|Passer domesticus}}, een kleine zangvogel vaak in bebouwde omgeving leeft #{{figuurlijk|nld}} iemand die het liefst thuis blijft {{-ant-}} *[2] [[globetrotter]], [[wereldreiziger]] {{-hyper-}} * [[mussen]], [[zangvogels]], [[vogels]], [[viervoeters]], [[gewervelden]], [[chordadieren]], [[dieren]] {{-drv-}} * [[huismuspan]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. kleine zangvogel die liefst in de buurt van de mensen leeft}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Haussperling}}, {{m}}; {{trad|de|Spatz}}, {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|house sparrow}} *{{fin}}: {{trad|fi|varpunen}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|moineau}}, {{m}}; {{trad|fr|moineau domestique}}, {{m}} *{{ita}}: {{trad|it|passero domestico}} {{m}} {{trans-mid}} *{{jpn}}: {{trad|ja|イエスズメ}} *{{pol}}: {{trad|pl|wróbel zwyczajny}} {{m}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|gorríon}} *{{wln}}: {{trad|wa|moxhon d'toet}} *{{swe}}: {{trad|sv|gråsparv}} {{c}} {{trans-bottom}} {{trans-top|2. iemand die het liefst thuis blijft}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Stubenhocker}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|stay-at-home}}, {{trad|en|homebody}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|casanier}} {{m}}, {{trad|fr|pantouflard}} {{m}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|casero}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} 6l2fmhodfrvopsn37n5ak6ng01kg1o3 0 20658 5504120 5304930 2026-03-30T17:53:18Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504120 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/'tustɑnt/|nld}} {{-syll-}} *toe·stand {{-etym-}} * Leenwoord uit het Duits, in de betekenis van ‘gesteldheid’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in 1648 {{sijs}} * {{samen|nld|toe|||stand|}} *{{nomact}} van [[toestaan]] {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]|bezield=niet geanimeerd|meta=abstract}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #een geheel van omstandigheden waarin iets of iemand zich bevindt {{bijv-1|De '''{{pn}}''' in de wereld is momenteel goed.}} {{citeer|artikel|datum = 23 april 2025|auteur = Karmela Padavic Callaghan |titel = LHC breekt record met detectie zwaarste antimaterie-atoom ooit |url = https://www.newscientist.nl/nieuws/lhc-breekt-record-met-detectie-zwaarste-antimaterie-atoom-ooit/|uitgever = newscientist|bezochtdatum =2025-04-25|citaat = Een andere reden dat antihyperhelium-4 interessant is, zo zegt Stöcker, is dat de omstandigheden in de deeltjesversneller bij het ontstaan ervan de toestand nabootsen waarin het heelal verkeerde toen het slechts een miljoenste van een seconde oud was. Het heelal bestond op dat moment uit een ‘hete soep’ van deeltjes. Het identificeren van de materie- en antimateriedeeltjes die hieruit voortkomen, kan helpen begrijpen hoe we in een heelal terecht zijn gekomen waarin de hoeveelheid materie, inclusief de materie waaruit wijzelf bestaan, de schaarse hoeveelheid antimateriedeeltjes overschaduwt. }} #de informatie die men over een systeem moet hebben om het gedrag ervan te kunnen bepalen {{bijv-1|een 10-bits register kan 1024 '''toestand'''en aannemen, elke nieuwe toestand volgt uit de huidige en de ingangssignalen}} #een ongelukkige [[situatie]] ([[gedoe]], [[gezeur]]) {{bijv-1|Wat een '''{{pn}}''', zeg!}} {{citeer|boek|jaar=2017|auteur=Jessie Burton vert. Marja Borg|titel=De muze|isbn=9789024574704|uitgever=Luitingh-Sijthoff|taal=nl|citaat= Ik heb deze toestand ook nooit gewild, maar we kunnen niet meer terug.}} {{citeer|boek|jaar=2022|auteur=Marion Pauw e.a.|titel=4 wandelaars en een Siciliaan|isbn=9789044363340|uitgever=The House of Books|taal=nl|citaat= Ik liet mijn vader beloven om nooit iemand over mijn toestand te vertellen en zelf deed ik dat ook niet.}} {{-rel-}} *[[constellatie]], [[gesteldheid]], [[hoedanigheid]], [[stand]] van zaken {{-hypo-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[aggregaatstoestand]] *[[aggregatietoestand]] *[[alarmtoestand]] *[[angsttoestand]] *[[begintoestand]] *[[bewustzijnstoestand]] *[[crisistoestand]] *[[droomtoestand]] *[[eindtoestand]] *[[energietoestand]] *[[evenwichtstoestand]] *[[geestestoestand]] *[[gemoedstoestand]] *[[gemoedtoestand]] *[[gevoelstoestand]] *[[gezinstoestand]] {{==}} *[[gezondheidstoestand]] *[[glastoestand]] *[[grondtoestand]] *[[koortstoestand]] *[[kwantumtoestand]] *[[larftoestand]] *[[larventoestand]] *[[mistoestand]] *[[natuurtoestand]] *[[noodtoestand]] *[[oertoestand]] *[[onderhoudstoestand]] *[[oorlogstoestand]] *[[overgangstoestand]] *[[oxidatietoestand]] *[[paniektoestand]] {{==}} *[[quantumtoestand]] *[[rechtstoestand]] *[[rusttoestand]] *[[schemertoestand]] *[[shocktoestand]] *[[sluimertoestand]] *[[trancetoestand]] *[[uitzonderingstoestand]] *[[veiligheidstoestand]] *[[verkeerstoestand]] *[[voedingstoestand]] *[[waaktoestand]] *[[wantoestand]] *[[weerstoestand]] *[[ziektetoestand]] *[[zielstoestand]] *[[zijnstoestand]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-drv-}} *[[eindigetoestandsautomaat]], [[toestandsruimte]], [[toestandsvergelijking]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|geheel van omstandigheden}} *{{deu}} {{trad|de|Zustand}}, {{trad|de|Beschaffenheit}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|state}}, {{trad|en|condition}}, {{trad|en|situation}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}} {{trad|es|situación}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|estado}} {{m}}, {{trad|es|condición}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{trans-top|een ongelukkige situatie}} *{{deu}} {{trad|de|Zustand}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|circumstances}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|rollo}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{crr13|N=100|V=98}} {{-info-|W=Toestand_(systeemtheorie)}} {{refs}} 9w0jizh0775wkoq8616yt3miidyi93b 0 21761 5504052 4769600 2026-03-30T15:24:56Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504052 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *most {{-etym-}} * Leenwoord uit het Latijn, in de betekenis van ‘nog niet gegist druivensap’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in het jaar 1100 {{sijs}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #gistend vruchtensap, meestal van druiven {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. gistend vruchtensap, meestal van druiven}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|must}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|moût}} {{m}} *{{por}}: {{trad|pt|mosto}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{crr13|N=64|V=43}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=hun=}} {{-adverb-|hun}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[nu]] {{=pol=}} {{-noun-|pol}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #[[brug]] {{-decl-}} {{-plnoun-|most|mosty|mostu|mostów|mostowi|mostom|most|mosty|mostem|mostami|moście|mostach|moście|mosty}} 0jd5bvosspo2t0z671ja37x522yvuug 0 22490 5504083 5457174 2026-03-30T16:23:23Z Lotje 8037 vetdruk 5504083 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|Hotel|hôtel|hotell}} {{=nld=}} [[Afbeelding:Plaza hotel.jpg|thumb|Een "Plaza '''Hotel'''" in de stad [[New York]]]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|hoˈtɛl}} **{{pron-reg|N=a}} {{IPA|/ɦoˈtɛɫ/|nld}}, {{IPA|/ɦoʊ̯ˈtɛɫ/|nld}} **{{pron-reg|V=a}} {{IPA|/ɦoˈtɛɫ/|nld}} **{{pron-reg|L=a}} {{IPA|/hoˈtɛl/|nld}} {{-syll-}} *ho·tel {{-etym-}} * Van het Franse ''[[hôtel]]'', in de betekenis van ‘logement’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in 1855 {{sijs}}{{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|hotel|[[hotels]]|[[hotelletje]]|[[hotelletjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{horeca|nld}} {{toerisme|nld}} gebouw waar men tegen betaling kan eten en overnachten, meestal grootschaliger, duurder en luxueuzer dan bijv. een [[herberg]] of [[hostel#Nederlands|hostel]] {{bijv-1|Een '''{{pn}}''' aan het strand.}} {{bijv-1|Er kwamen meer badkoetsen, de Badhuisweg werd aangelegd om de stad te verbinden met de badplaats en er werd een '''hotel''' gebouwd: het Grand Hotel des Bains, dat in 1886 feestelijk werd geopend.<ref>[https://www.zeeuwseankers.nl/verhaal/het-vlissingse-strand ''Het Vlissingse strand''], zeeuwseankers.nl 4 juni 2015</ref>}} {{citeer|boek|jaar=2018|auteur=Pfeiffer, Ilja Leonard|auteurlink=Ilja Leonard Pfeijffer|titel=Grand Hotel Europa|isbn=978-90-295-2622-7|pagina=16|uitgever=De Arbeiderspers|taal=nl|citaat=`Heeft het '''hotel''' een nieuwe eigenaar?' vroeg ik.<br>`Onlangs is Grand Hotel Europa overgegaan in Chinese handen,'zei hij. 'De nieuwe eigenaar heet meneer Wang. Het gaat om een recente ontwikkeling die we op dit moment onmogelijk kunnen beoordelen.}} {{citeer|artikel|datum = 23 april 2025 |auteur = |titel = Topchefs geschokt door dood Jonnie Boer: 'Hij leerde mij alles' |url = https://nos.nl/artikel/2564750-topchefs-geschokt-door-dood-jonnie-boer-hij-leerde-mij-alles|uitgever = NOS|bezochtdatum =2025-04-24|citaat = In 2008 openenden Jonnie en Thérèse Boer een hotel in een voormalige gevangenis in Zwolle }} #''(bij uitbreiding)'' tijdelijk onderkomen voor (huis)dieren, als bijv. de eigenaars eigen tijd weg zijn; [[dierenpension]] #{{verouderd|nld}} gebouw v.e. [[gezantschap]] #[[spelwoord]] van het ITU/NAVO-spellingalfabet voor de letter h {{-syn-}} *[4] [[Hendrik]] {{-hyper-}} *[4] [[spellingalfabet]] {{-rel-}} *[1] [[herberg]], [[motel]], [[gasthuis]], [[pension]] {{-hypo-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[Amstelhotel]] *[[Oranjehotel]] *[[Parkhotel]] *[[afstudeerhotel]] *[[all-inhotel]] *[[aparthotel]] *[[appartementenhotel]] *[[backpackhotel]] *[[badhotel]] *[[bandenhotel]] *[[belevingshotel]] *[[berghotel]] *[[bijenhotel]] *[[boetiekhotel]] *[[bondshotel]] *[[bordeelhotel]] *[[budgethotel]] *[[casinohotel]] *[[chateauhotel]] *[[congreshotel]] *[[containerhotel]] *[[coronahotel]] *[[datahotel]] *[[designhotel]] *[[detoxhotel]] *[[dierenhotel]] {{==}} *[[driesterrenhotel]] *[[eensterrenhotel]] *[[familiehotel]] *[[geboortehotel]] *[[goederenhotel]] *[[honingraathotel]] *[[hooihotel]] *[[ijshotel]] *[[insectenhotel]] *[[jeugdhotel]] *[[jongerenhotel]] *[[kantoorhotel]] *[[kasteelhotel]] *[[kinderhotel]] *[[kraamhotel]] *[[kraamzorghotel]] *[[kraterhotel]] *[[kuurhotel]] *[[legionellahotel]] *[[lowbudgethotel]] *[[luxehotel]] *[[middenklassenhotel]] *[[motel]] *[[onderwijshotel]] *[[parkhotel]] *[[passantenhotel]] {{==}} *[[peeshotel]] *[[plattelandshotel]] *[[quarantainehotel]] *[[rijkshotel]] *[[rugzakhotel]] *[[ruimtehotel]] *[[ruiterhotel]] *[[spelershotel]] *[[staatshotel]] *[[sterrenhotel]] *[[strandhotel]] *[[superhotel]] *[[toeristenhotel]] *[[tophotel]] *[[tweesterrenhotel]] *[[uitvaarthotel]] *[[uurhotel]] *[[vakantiehotel]] *[[viersterrenhotel]] *[[vijfsterrenhotel]] *[[vleermuishotel]] *[[vleermuizenhotel]] *[[werkhotel]] *[[wiphotel]] *[[woonhotel]] *[[zakenhotel]] *[[zorghotel]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-drv-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[Hotel de Houten Lepel]] *[[hotel mama]] *[[hotel-café-restaurant]] *[[hotel-restaurant]] *[[hotelaccommodatie]] *[[hotelappartement]] *[[hotelarrangement]] *[[hotelarts]] *[[hotelbaas]] *[[hotelbar]] *[[hotelbed]] *[[hotelbediende]] *[[hotelbedrijf]] *[[hotelbezetting]] *[[hotelboeking]] *[[hotelboot]] *[[hotelbouw]] *[[hotelbranche]] *[[hotelbrand]] *[[hotelbusiness]] *[[hotelcake]] *[[hotelcapaciteit]] *[[hotelchauffeur]] *[[hotelcomplex]] *[[hotelconcern]] *[[hoteldate]] {{==}} *[[hoteldetective]] *[[hoteldief]] *[[hoteldievegge]] *[[hoteldirecteur]] *[[hoteldirectie]] *[[hoteleigenaar]] *[[hotelgang]] *[[hotelgast]] *[[hotelgezin]] *[[hotelgroep]] *[[hotelhouder]] *[[hotelhoudster]] *[[hotelier]] *[[hotelindustrie]] *[[hotelingang]] *[[hotelkamer]] *[[hotelketen]] *[[hotelkosten]] *[[hotellerie]] *[[hotellift]] *[[hotellobby]] *[[hotelmagnaat]] *[[hotelmanagement]] *[[hotelmanager]] *[[hotelmarkt]] *[[hotelovernachting]] {{==}} *[[hoteloverschot]] *[[hotelpersoneel]] *[[hotelpiraat]] *[[hotelplan]] *[[hotelprijs]] *[[hotelproject]] *[[hotelraam]] *[[hotelrat]] *[[hotelregister]] *[[hotelrekening]] *[[hotelreservering]] *[[hotelruimte]] *[[hotelrunner]] *[[hotelschakeling]] *[[hotelscheiden]] *[[hotelschip]] *[[hotelschool]] *[[hotelsector]] *[[hotelsluiting]] *[[hotelsuite]] *[[hotelterras]] *[[hoteltoren]] *[[hoteluitbater]] *[[hotelwereld]] *[[hotelwezen]] *[[hotelzilver]] *[[hotelzwembad]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-rel-}} *[1] [[grand hôtel]], [[maître d'hôtel]] {{-expr-}} {{expr|'''Hotel''' mama|Min of meer spottende benaming voor het ouderlijk huis, wanneer de kinderen terwijl ze al volwassen zijn hier nog wonen of veel logeren}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. gebouw waar men tegen betaling kan eten en overnachten,...}} * {{afr}}: {{trad|af|hotel}} * {{cat}}: {{trad|ca|hotel}} * {{dan}}: {{trad|da|hotel}} {{n}} * {{deu}}: {{trad|de|Hotel}} {{n}} * {{eng}}: {{trad|en|hotel}} * {{fin}}: {{trad|fi|hotelli}} * {{fra}}: {{trad|fr|hôtel}} * {{ell}}: {{trad|el|ξενοδοχείο}} {{n}} (xenodochío) * {{ido}}: {{trad|io|hotelo}} * {{ind}}: {{trad|id|hotel}} {{trans-mid}} * {{ita}}: {{trad|it|hotel}}, {{trad|it|albergo}} * {{lim}}: {{trad|li|hotel}}, {{trad|li|blievingshoes}}, {{trad|li|gashoes}} * {{nor}}: {{trad|no|hotel}} {{n}} * {{nno}}: {{trad|nn|hotel}} {{n}} * {{pap}}: {{trad|pap|hotèl}} * {{pol}}: {{trad|pl|hotel}} {{m}} * {{por}}: {{trad|pt|hotel}} * {{slk}}: {{trad|sk|hotel}} {{m}} * {{ces}}: {{trad|cs|hotel}} {{m}} {{i}} * {{swe}}: {{trad|sv|hotell}} {{n}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{crr13|N=100|V=99}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|en-us-hotel.ogg|{{pn}} (VS)|eng}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/həʊˈtɛl/|eng}}, {{IPA|/əʊˈtɛl/|eng}}, {{IPA|/hoʊˈtɛl/|eng}} {{-etym-}} * Van {{fra}} ''[[hôtel]]'', {{frm}} ''hostel'' en {{fro}} ''hostel'', van {{lat}} ''[[hospitālis]]'' . Doublet met ''{{Q|hostel|eng}}'' en ''[[hospital]]''. {{-ennoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]}} {{-noun-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{horeca|eng}}, {{toerisme|eng}} {{Q|"|nld|zn}} {{=ind=}} {{-syll-}} *ho·tel {{-noun-|ind}} '''hotel''' #{{bouwkunde|ind}}, {{toerisme|ind}} [[hotel#Nederlands|hotel]] {{-drv-}} *[[perhotelan]] {{=pol=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|Pl-hotel.ogg|{{pn}}|pol}}, {{audio|LL-Q809 (pol)-Olaf-hotel.wav|{{pn}}|pol}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ˈxɔtɛl/|pol}} {{-noun-|pol}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{horeca|pol}}, {{toerisme|pol}} {{Q|"|nld|zn}} {{-decl-}} {{-plnoun-|{{pn}}|hotele|hotelu|hoteli/hotelów|hotelowi|hotelom|hotel|hotele|hotelem|hotelami|hotelu|hotelach|hotelu|hotele}} {{=slk=}} {{-pron-}} * {{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɦɔtɛl/|slk}} {{-syll-}} * ho·tel {{-noun-|slk}} '''hotel''' {{m}} # {{bouwkunde|slk}}{{toerisme|slk}}{{horeca|slk}} {{Q|hotel|nld}}; gebouw waar men tegen betaling kan eten en overnachten, meestal grootschaliger, duurder en luxueuzer dan bijv. een herberg of hostel {{-hyper-}} * [[podnik]] {{m}}{{i}} {{-drv-}} * [[hotelík]] {{m}} * [[hotelový]] {{-typ-}} * bývať v ''hoteli'' * horský ''hotel'' * trojhviezdičkový ''hotel'' - driesterrenhotel {{-rel-}} * [[hotelier]] {{m}} * [[hotelierka]] {{f}} * [[hoteliersky]] {{-info-|W=sk:Hotel}} {{=spa=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|es-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|spa}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ xxxx/|spa}}--> {{-syll-}} *ho·tel {{-esnoun-|hotel|hoteles}} {{-noun-|spa}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{bouwkunde|spa}}, {{toerisme|spa}} [[hotel#Nederlands|{{pn}}]] {{=ces=}} {{-pron-}} * {{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɦɔtɛl/|ces}} * {{sound}}: {{audio|Cs-hotel.ogg|hotel|ces}} {{-syll-}} * ho·tel {{-etym-}} * Afgeleid van het Franse [[hôtel]] {{-noun-|ces}} '''hotel''' {{m}}{{i}} # {{bouwkunde|ces}}{{toerisme|ces}}{{horeca|ces}} {{Q|hotel|nld}}; gebouw waar men tegen betaling kan eten en overnachten, meestal grootschaliger, duurder en luxueuzer dan bijv. een herberg of hostel {{-decl-}} {{-csnounmi-ø6-|hotel}} {{-hyper-}} * [[podnik]] {{m}}{{i}} {{-drv-}} {{(}} * [[grandhotel]] {{m}}{{i}} * [[hotelík]] {{m}}{{i}} * [[hotelní]] * [[hotelový]] {{==}} * [[hotelský]] * [[hotýlek]] {{m}}{{i}} * [[interhotel]] {{m}}{{i}} {{)}} {{-typ-}} {{(}} * boutique ''hotel'' / butikový ''hotel'' {{m}}{{i}} – [[boetiekhotel]] * bydlet v ''hotelu'' – in een ''hotel'' wonen * [[hodinový hotel]] {{m}}{{i}} * [[lázeňský hotel]] {{m}}{{i}} {{==}} * [[recepce hotelu]] * [[ubytování v hotelu]] * ubytovat se v ''hotelu'' – in een ''hotel'' wonen {{)}} {{-rel-}} {{(}} * [[hostel]] {{m}}{{i}} * [[hotelíček]] {{m}}{{i}} * [[hoteliér]] {{m}}{{a}} * [[hoteliérka]] {{f}} * [[hoteliérství]] {{n}} {{==}} * [[hotelnictví]] {{n}} * [[hotelově]] {{bw}} * [[botel]] {{m}}{{i}} * [[motel]] {{m}}{{i}} * [[rotel]] {{m}}{{i}} {{)}} {{-info-|W=cs:Hotel}} {{refs}} * [https://prirucka.ujc.cas.cz/?slovo=hotel Internetová jazyková příručka - Ústav pro jazyk český AV ČR] (Tsjechisch) * [https://ssjc.ujc.cas.cz/search.php?heslo=hotel&hsubstr=no Slovník spisovného jazyka českého - Ústav pro jazyk český AV ČR] (Tsjechisch) * [https://psjc.ujc.cas.cz/search.php?heslo=hotel&zobraz_ps=ps&not_initial=1 Příruční slovník jazyka českého - Ústav pro jazyk český AV ČR] (Tsjechisch) * [http://kott.ujc.cas.cz/index.php?vstup=hotel&hledat=fulltext&heslo=checked&stranaVys=1 Česko-německý slovník Fr. Št. Kotta - Ústav pro jazyk český AV ČR] (Tsjechisch) mvsgxf7fwrl5e9lyawsxd8vtc8dcl9s 0 23338 5504047 5387694 2026-03-30T15:22:13Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504047 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * In de betekenis van ‘deel’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in 1237 {{sijs}} * Afgeleid van het voltooid deelwoord van [[delen]] {{suff|nld|-te}}. * {{nomact}} van [[delen#Nederlands|delen]] {{circumf|nld|ge- -te}} dat een verzameling aangeeft {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]<br>[[{{pn}}n]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #minder dan het geheel {{bijv-1|Hij heeft een '''{{pn}}''' van het werk mee naar huis genomen.}} {{citeer|artikel|datum=10 juli 2019|auteur=Rob Gollin|titel=De helling van de mooie meisjes knijpt de renner de keel dicht|url=https://www.volkskrant.nl/sport/de-helling-van-de-mooie-meisjes-knijpt-de-renner-de-keel-dicht~bcf65764/|uitgever=de Volkskrant|taal=nl|citaat=Op 7 juli 2012 versnelt Chris Froome op het laatste '''gedeelte''' en laat zijn kopman Bradley Wiggins tegen de stalorders in achter.}} {{citeer|boek|jaar=2018|auteur=Tim Voors|titel=Alleen, De Pacific Crest Trail te voet van Mexico naar Canada|uitgave=eBook: Mat-Zet bv, Soest|uitgever=Fontaine Uitgevers|taal=nl|citaat= Meer en meer hikers sloegen grote stukken over, omdat veel Amerikanen het Noord-Californische gedeelte van de trail saai vonden.}} {{citeer|boek|jaar=2017|auteur=Jessie Burton vert. Marja Borg|titel=De muze|isbn=9789024574704|uitgever=Luitingh-Sijthoff|taal=nl|citaat= Nadat Rufïna was verkocht, gebruikte Lawrie een gedeelte van het geld om een reis naar Amerika te maken.}} {{citeer|boek|jaar=2023|auteur=Ronald Giphart e.a.|titel=Een familie en een Griekse god|isbn=9789044366471|uitgever=The House of Books|taal=nl|citaat=' Annet wijst naar een wat rechter gedeelte dat met veel fantasie inderdaad een pad kan worden genoemd.}} {{-syn-}} *[[deel]] {{-hypo-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[achtergedeelte]] *[[bovengedeelte]] *[[cafégedeelte]] *[[eetgedeelte]] *[[horecagedeelte]] *[[kantoorgedeelte]] *[[kindsgedeelte]] *[[landgedeelte]] {{==}} *[[landsgedeelte]] *[[linkergedeelte]] *[[middengedeelte]] *[[niet-rokengedeelte]] *[[ondergedeelte]] *[[onderwatergedeelte]] *[[praktijkgedeelte]] *[[privégedeelte]] {{==}} *[[rechtergedeelte]] *[[restaurantgedeelte]] *[[rijwielgedeelte]] *[[Schriftgedeelte]] *[[slaapgedeelte]] *[[slotgedeelte]] *[[stadsgedeelte]] *[[tekstgedeelte]] {{==}} *[[themagedeelte]] *[[theoriegedeelte]] *[[weggedeelte]] *[[winkelgedeelte]] *[[woongedeelte]] *[[zinsgedeelte]] *[[zitgedeelte]] *[[zwemgedeelte]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-drv-}} *[[gedeeltelijk]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. minder dan het geheel}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Teil}} {{n}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|part}}, {{trad|en|section}}, {{trad|en|parthian}}, {{trad|en|piece}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|partie}} {{f}}, {{trad|fr|part}} {{f}} {{trans-mid}} *{{pap}}: {{trad|pap|parti}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|parte}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|porción}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{crr13|N=100|V=100}} {{refs}} 9osuraxi9y2v4i1k1srouxl7fyv4rhy 0 24367 5504228 5436703 2026-03-31T09:15:51Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504228 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|spɛk}} {{-syll-}} *spek {{-etym-}} *[1] via {{dum}} {{Q|"|dum}} van {{odt}} {{Q|"|odt}}, in de betekenis van ‘vet’ aangetroffen vanaf 1108 {{ebank|spek1|spek (vet)}} {{sijs}} *[2], [3] in de betekenis van ‘een soort suikergoed’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in het jaar 1873 {{ebank|spek2|spek (soort suikergoed)}} {{sijs}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[2], [3] [[{{pn}}ken]]|[[spekje]]|[[spekjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{singt|b}} {{biologie|nld}}, {{voeding|nld}} laag vet tussen huid en vlees bij grote zoogdieren {{bijv-1|Hij at 's morgens graag eieren met gebakken '''spek'''.}} #{{snoepgoed|nld}} bepaald soort sponzige zoetwaar #{{snoepgoed|nld}} ''([[Belgisch-Nederlands]])'' benaming voor zoet snoep, suikergoed {{-note-}} *[2], [3] In de betekenis "snoep" is het verkleinwoord "spekje" (soms ook: "[[spekkie]]") de gangbare vorm. {{-hypo-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[aardappelspek]] *[[boterspek]] {{==}} *[[breydelspek]] *[[buikspek]] {{==}} *[[hamspek]] *[[hespenspek]] {{==}} *[[katenspek]] *[[ontbijtspek]] *[[robbenspek]] {{==}} *[[rookspek]] *[[vetspek]] *[[zuurkoolspek]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-drv-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[gewone spekkever]] *[[spekachtig]] *[[spekblok]] *[[spekbokking]] *[[spekboon]] *[[spekbuik]] *[[spekdam]] *[[spekdief]] *[[spekglad]] *[[spekhaak]] *[[spekjood]] *[[spekkerig]] {{==}} *[[spekkever]] *[[spekkig]] *[[spekkoek]] *[[spekkoper]] *[[speklaag]] *[[speklap]] *[[speknek]] *[[spekpannenkoek]] *[[spekpen]] *[[spekrand]] *[[spekreep]] *[[spekschieter]] *[[spekslager]] *[[spekslagerij]] {{==}} *[[speksnijder]] *[[speksteen]] *[[spektor]] *[[spektorren]] *[[spekvet]] *[[spekvlieg]] *[[spekvreter]] *[[spekwortel]] *[[spekzak]] *[[spekzool]] *[[spekzwoerd]] *[[spekzwoord]] *[[zwartbruine spekkever]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-expr-}} {{fras|nld|met spek schieten|overdrijven of opscheppen|n=1|t=z}} {{fras|nld|voor spek en bonen meedoen|zonder winst of kost laten meedoen ofwel: meedoen maar door de andere deelnemers niet serieus worden genomen|n=1|t=z}} {{fras|nld|er voor spek en bonen bijzitten|niet meetellen|n=1|t=z}} {{fras|nld|de kat bij het spek zetten|n=1}} {{fras|nld|de kat op het spek binden|n=1}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. onderhuidse vetlaag bij varkens}} *{{bul}}: {{trad|bg|сланина}} {{f}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Speck}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|bacon}} {{trans-mid}} *{{pap}}: {{trad|pap|spèki}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|lardo}} {{m}}, {{trad|es|tocino}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-verb-|0}} {{1ps|spekken}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} qcasgrcuycakaqtzc9huacdesutgz7x 5504229 5504228 2026-03-31T09:17:44Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504229 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|spɛk}} {{-syll-}} *spek {{-etym-}} *[1] via {{dum}} {{Q|"|dum}} van {{odt}} {{Q|"|odt}}, in de betekenis van ‘vet’ aangetroffen vanaf 1108 {{ebank|spek1|spek (vet)}} {{sijs}} *[2], [3] in de betekenis van ‘een soort suikergoed’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in het jaar 1873 {{ebank|spek2|spek (soort suikergoed)}} {{sijs}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[2,3] [[{{pn}}ken]]|[[spekje]]|[[spekjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{singt|b}} {{biologie|nld}}, {{voeding|nld}} laag vet tussen huid en vlees bij grote zoogdieren {{bijv-1|Hij at 's morgens graag eieren met gebakken '''spek'''.}} #{{snoepgoed|nld}} bepaald soort sponzige zoetwaar #{{snoepgoed|nld}} ''([[Belgisch-Nederlands]])'' benaming voor zoet snoep, suikergoed {{-note-}} *[2], [3] In de betekenis "snoep" is het verkleinwoord "spekje" (soms ook: "[[spekkie]]") de gangbare vorm. {{-hypo-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[aardappelspek]] *[[boterspek]] {{==}} *[[breydelspek]] *[[buikspek]] *[[hamspek]] {{==}} *[[hespenspek]] *[[katenspek]] *[[ontbijtspek]] {{==}} *[[paprikaspek]] *[[robbenspek]] *[[rookspek]] {{==}} *[[vetspek]] *[[walvisspek]] *[[zuurkoolspek]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-drv-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[gewone spekkever]] *[[spekachtig]] *[[spekblok]] *[[spekbokking]] *[[spekboom]] *[[spekboon]] *[[spekbuik]] *[[spekdam]] *[[spekdief]] *[[spekglad]] *[[spekhaak]] *[[spekjood]] {{==}} *[[spekkerig]] *[[spekkever]] *[[spekkig]] *[[spekkoek]] *[[spekkoper]] *[[speklaag]] *[[speklap]] *[[speknek]] *[[spekpannenkoek]] *[[spekpen]] *[[spekrand]] *[[spekreep]] *[[spekschieter]] *[[spekslager]] *[[spekslagerij]] {{==}} *[[speksnijder]] *[[speksteen]] *[[spektakel]] *[[spektor]] *[[spektorren]] *[[spekvet]] *[[spekvlieg]] *[[spekvreter]] *[[spekwortel]] *[[spekzak]] *[[spekzool]] *[[spekzwoerd]] *[[spekzwoord]] *[[voor spek en bonen]] *[[zwartbruine spekkever]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-expr-}} {{fras|nld|met spek schieten|overdrijven of opscheppen|n=1|t=z}} {{fras|nld|voor spek en bonen meedoen|zonder winst of kost laten meedoen ofwel: meedoen maar door de andere deelnemers niet serieus worden genomen|n=1|t=z}} {{fras|nld|er voor spek en bonen bijzitten|niet meetellen|n=1|t=z}} {{fras|nld|de kat bij het spek zetten|n=1}} {{fras|nld|de kat op het spek binden|n=1}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. onderhuidse vetlaag bij varkens}} *{{bul}}: {{trad|bg|сланина}} {{f}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Speck}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|bacon}} {{trans-mid}} *{{pap}}: {{trad|pap|spèki}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|lardo}} {{m}}, {{trad|es|tocino}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-verb-|0}} {{1ps|spekken}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} eltbtatei4bd1rt10tliu5a5q9ko831 0 29444 5504128 5376273 2026-03-30T17:58:43Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504128 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *ag·gre·ga·tie·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|aggregatie|||toestand|}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{scheikunde|nld}} {{natuurkunde|nld}} elk van de toestanden, afhankelijk van druk en temperatuur, waarin een stof kan voorkomen, te weten [[vast]], [[vloeibaar]] of [[gasvormig]] {{-syn-}} * [[aggregaatstoestand]] {{-hypo-}} *[[gas]], [[glas]], [[plasma]], [[tripelpunt]], [[vloeistof]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. elk van de toestanden, afhankelijk van druk en temperatuur, waarin een stof kan voorkomen}} *{{cat}}: {{trad|ca|estat de la matèria}} *{{dan}}: {{trad|da|fase (stof)}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Aggregatzustand}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|fase (matter)}} *{{epo}}: {{trad|eo|fazo de materio}} *{{fin}}: {{trad|fi|faasi}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|état de la matière}} {{trans-mid}} *{{ita}}: {{trad|it|fase (chimica)}} *{{pol}}: {{trad|pl|stan skupienia materii}} *{{por}}: {{trad|pt|estado da matéria}} *{{slv}}: {{trad|sl|faza snovi}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|estado de agregacíon de la materia}} {{m}} *{{ces}}: {{trad|cs|skupenstvi}} *{{swe}}: {{trad|sv|aggregationstillstånd}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} 7oc0geqe5h7nl1r1r6kjgex9zo7sueh 5504129 5504128 2026-03-30T17:59:38Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504129 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *ag·gre·ga·tie·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|aggregatie|||toestand|}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{scheikunde|nld}} {{natuurkunde|nld}} elk van de toestanden, afhankelijk van druk en temperatuur, waarin een stof kan voorkomen, o.a. [[vast]], [[vloeibaar]] of [[gasvormig]] {{-syn-}} * [[aggregaatstoestand]] {{-hypo-}} *[[gas]], [[glas]], [[plasma]], [[tripelpunt]], [[vloeistof]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. elk van de toestanden, afhankelijk van druk en temperatuur, waarin een stof kan voorkomen}} *{{cat}}: {{trad|ca|estat de la matèria}} *{{dan}}: {{trad|da|fase (stof)}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Aggregatzustand}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|fase (matter)}} *{{epo}}: {{trad|eo|fazo de materio}} *{{fin}}: {{trad|fi|faasi}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|état de la matière}} {{trans-mid}} *{{ita}}: {{trad|it|fase (chimica)}} *{{pol}}: {{trad|pl|stan skupienia materii}} *{{por}}: {{trad|pt|estado da matéria}} *{{slv}}: {{trad|sl|faza snovi}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|estado de agregacíon de la materia}} {{m}} *{{ces}}: {{trad|cs|skupenstvi}} *{{swe}}: {{trad|sv|aggregationstillstånd}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} 2520ffyi5hwavbhrz4dhnd365izqm5i 0 31526 5504244 4899239 2026-03-31T10:14:51Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504244 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|tablét|nld}} **{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|taˈblɛt}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}2.ogg|táblet (Engels uitgesproken)|nld}} **{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈtɛblət}} {{-syll-}} *ta·blet {{-etym-}} * Leenwoord uit het Frans, in de betekenis van ‘plak, pastille’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in 1680 {{sijs}} *[tablét] van {{fra}} {{Q|tablette|fra}} {{ebank}} *[táblet] van {{eng}}, verkorting van {{Q|tablet computer|eng}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{f}}/{{m}}/{{n}} #{{farmacologie|nld}} [[pastille]], [[pil]] {{bijv-1|Neem een '''{{pn}}''' in.}} #{{voeding|nld}} [[plak]] [2] {{bijv-1|Een '''{{pn}}''' chocolade.}} #{{bouwkunde|nld}} houten of glazen [[plaat]], meestal gebruikt om iets af te werken {{bijv-1|Een '''{{pn}}''' van glas.}} #platrond voorwerp dat een bepaalde werkzame stof ([[zeep]], [[schoonmaakmiddel]] e.d.) bevat {{bijv-1|Een '''{{pn}}''' wasmiddel.}} # [[kleitablet]] {{bijv-1|Hurritische '''tabletten'''.}} # {{tuinbouw|nld}} kweekbak die wordt geplaatst in een [[kas]] ([3]) {{bijv-1|In de kas bevindt zich aan één kant een groot '''tablet''' met planten in pot, daartegenover is een tufwand gemaakt van dunne travertinplaten.<ref>[https://www.jansalpines.com/nl/14/alpienekas.html Alpienekas], jansalpines.com</ref>}} <gallery> Paracetamol acetaminophen 500 mg pills.jpg|[1] Een ''tablet'' paracetamol Stevia Chocolate.jpg|[2] Een ''tablet'' Stevia-chocolade Philip Egerton.JPG|[3] Raam in de [[w:kathedraal van Chester|kathedraal van Chester]] met daaronder een glazen ''tablet'' W1929-Lourdes Savons 89513.JPG|[4] Etalage met zeep''tabletten'' Persepolis clay tablet.jpg|[5] Een klei''tablet'' uit [[w:Persepolis|Persepolis]] </gallery> {{-hypo-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[anijstablet]] *[[aspirinetablet]] *[[bouillontablet]] *[[bruistablet]] *[[calpoltablet]] *[[cannabistablet]] *[[chocoladetablet]] *[[fluortablet]] {{==}} *[[gametablet]] *[[gezinstablet]] *[[hoesttablet]] *[[internettablet]] *[[jodiumtablet]] *[[kalmeringstablet]] *[[kleitablet]] *[[maagtablet]] {{==}} *[[metatablet]] *[[raamtablet]] *[[schrijftablet]] *[[schuimtablet]] *[[slaaptablet]] *[[soeptablet]] *[[tekentablet]] *[[traangastablet]] *[[vaatwastablet]] {{==}} *[[venstertablet]] *[[vitaminetablet]] *[[wastablet]] *[[webtablet]] *[[xtc-tablet]] *[[zenuwtablet]] *[[zoetstoftablet]] *[[zuigtablet]] *[[zuiveringstablet]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-drv-}} * [[tabletlijn]], [[tabletmaker]], [[tabletmarkt]], [[tabletvorm]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. pastille}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Tablette}} {{f}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|tablet}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|comprimé}} {{m}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|pastilla}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|comprimido}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{trans-top|2. plak}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Tafel}} {{f}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|bar}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|tablette}} {{f}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|tableta}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''táblet''' {{m}} #{{elektronica|nld}} een platte computer die vrijwel alleen bestaat uit een aanraakbaar beeldscherm {{bijv-1|Hij zat de hele dag op zijn '''{{pn}}'''.}} [[Bestand:Apple iPad Wi-Fi 3G 16GB (10572205813).jpg|thumb|Een ''tablet'' die wordt bediend door schermaanraking]] {{-syn-}} *[[pad]], [[tablet-pc]] {{-drv-}} *[[tablet-pc]], [[tabletbochel]], [[tabletcafé]], [[tabletcomputer]], [[tabletkramp]], [[tabletlijn]], [[tabletmaker]], [[tabletmarkt]], [[tabletnek]], [[tabletvorm]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{-ennoun-|{{pn}}|{{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[tablet#Zelfstandig naamwoord|tablet]] [1], [[pil]], [[pastille]] #[[tablet#Zelfstandig naamwoord|tablet]] [5], [[kleitablet]] #[[tabletcomputer]], [[tablet#Zelfstandig_naamwoord_2|tablet]] gow5v5a7v253smr879tz8taf26dgql3 0 34760 5504040 5440856 2026-03-30T15:12:20Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504040 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈsprokjə}} {{-syll-}} *sprook·je {{-etym-}} *{{dimt|a}}; In de betekenis van ‘verzonnen vertelling’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in het jaar 1610.{{sijs}} {{ebank}} * Verkleinwoord bij ''[[sproke]]''. {{-nlnoun-|-|-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #een meestal moraliserend verhaal voor kinderen waarin fantasiewezens en magie een belangrijke rol spelen {{bijv-1|Hans en Grietje, [[Sneeuwwitje]], de Gelaarsde kat zijn bekende '''sprookjes'''.}} {{bijv-1|In de prachtige film Boyhood vraagt het jongetje Mason: ‘Papa, '''sprookjes''' zijn niet echt, hè? Ik bedoel, zoals elfjes enzo. Dat hebben mensen gewoon verzonnen.’<ref>Roos {{Aut|Vonk}}, ‘[https://www.psychologiemagazine.nl/artikel/verwondering/ Echt volwassen: je blijven verwonderen over het sprookje dat onze planeet is]’, ''Psychologie Magazine'', 15 mei 2019.</ref>}} # {{figuurlijk|nld|}} iets wat te mooi is om waar te zijn {{citeer|boek|jaar=2018|auteur=Tim Voors|titel=Alleen, De Pacific Crest Trail te voet van Mexico naar Canada|uitgave=eBook: Mat-Zet bv, Soest|uitgever=Fontaine Uitgevers|taal=nl|citaat= Het leek wel een sprookje zo mooi maar toch voelde ik me niet op mijn gemak en ik wilde hier zo snel mogelijk weg.}} {{-hypo-}} *[[bakersprookje]], [[bloedsprookje]], [[gruwelsprookje]], [[kerstsprookje]], [[kindersprookje]], [[volkssprookje]] {{-drv-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[sprookjesachtig]] *[[sprookjesballet]] *[[sprookjesboek]] *[[sprookjesbos]] *[[sprookjesfiguur]] {{==}} *[[sprookjeshuwelijk]] *[[sprookjeskasteel]] *[[sprookjesland]] *[[sprookjespaleis]] *[[sprookjespark]] {{==}} *[[sprookjesprins]] *[[sprookjesprinses]] *[[sprookjesschip]] *[[sprookjesschrijver]] *[[sprookjessfeer]] {{==}} *[[sprookjesstad]] *[[sprookjestuin]] *[[sprookjesverhaal]] *[[sprookjesverteller]] *[[sprookjesvorst]] *[[sprookjeswereld]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. verzonnen vertelling}} *{{afr}}: {{trad|af|sprokie}} *{{hye}}: {{trad|hy|հեքիաթ}} *{{cat}}: {{trad|ca|faula}} {{f}} *{{dan}}: {{trad|da|eventyr}} {{n}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Märchen}} {{n}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|fairy tale}} {{trans-mid}} *{{epo}}: {{trad|eo|fabelo}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|conte de fées}} {{m}} *{{ron}}: {{trad|ro|basm}} {{n}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|fábula}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|cuento de hadas}} {{m}} *{{swe}}: {{trad|sv|saga}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} qbkrzx09c81htnosdz4cage3sb6geo3 0 34797 5504032 5322753 2026-03-30T15:04:39Z Jochenknabben 60937 {{zie-ook|moût}} 5504032 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|moût}} {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *{{syll|mout}} {{-etym-}} * In de betekenis van ‘ontkiemd graan voor bier’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in 1125 {{sijs}} {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}}/{{n}} {{wnt-r|M040214}} #de grondstof voor [[bier]], [[jenever]] en [[whisky]], vervaardigd door het laten kiemen van graan, waarbij het aanwezige zetmeel omgezet wordt in vergistbare suikers. {{-hypo-}} *[[gerstemout]], [[groenmout]], [[havermout]], [[roggemout]] {{-drv-}} *[[moutbrood]], [[mouten]], [[moutextract]], [[moutkoffie]], [[moutmolen]], [[moutschroot]], [[moutsuiker]], [[moutvloer]], [[moutwijn]], [[vermouten]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. de grondstof voor bier, jenever en whisky,...}} *{{dan}}: {{trad|da|malt}} {{n}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Malz}} {{n}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|malt}} {{trans-mid}} *{{nor}}: {{trad|no|malt}} {{n}} *{{nno}}: {{trad|nn|malt}} {{n}} *{{slk}}: {{trad|sk|slad}} {{m}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|malta}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-verb-|0}} {{tps|mouten}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} 47xj2jqhfao0gte5nygea3r21c9kyan 4 37917 5504227 5493768 2026-03-31T09:07:08Z MarcoSwart 9001 /* Aangeduid om te verwijderen */ dierenbevrijdingsfronten 5504227 wikitext text/x-wiki ==Toelichting== {{Te verwijderen pagina's}} [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Te verwijderen pagina's]] ==Discussie over onmiddellijke verwijdering== *… ==Aangeduid om te verwijderen== *… ===Recent afgehandeld=== *[[illegibel]] - In theorie zou dit best een Nederlands woord kunnen zijn, maar het is nergens als zodanig terug te vinden, ook niet in het WNT waar bij uitstek vanaf de middeleeuwen bekende woorden in staan: [https://gtb.ivdnt.org/search/?owner=wnt]. Het lijkt mij dan ook niets toevoegen aan [[onleesbaar]]. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 12:03 (CET) Aanv. Ik kom nu toch [https://nl.puzzelwoord.com/puzzelwoord/-/onleesbaar/ dit] tegen, maar dit lijkt geen erg serieuze bron. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 12:07 (CET) *:https://www.encyclo.nl/begrip/Illegibel *:hier staat het wel, maar je kan ook gelijk hebben dat het niet bestaat [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 12:09 (CET) *::U kunt het ook aan MarcoSwart vragen, want hij is er veel beter in [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 12:10 (CET) *:::Wat betreft encyclo.nl, dat is vooral een ''mirror site'' van Wikiprojecten zoals dit. <s>Alleen zouden ze dan nu idd. wel erg snel zijn geweest met overnemen (of gaat het "mirroren" tegenwoordig ook al automatisch?)</s> [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 12:16 (CET) Laat maar, al gezien: ze gebruiken daar dus ook puzzelwoordenboek.nl als bron. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 12:19 (CET) *::::Ik heb daar geen verstand van, maar MarcoSwart kan wel goed onderzoeken of het een bestaand woord is [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 12:17 (CET) *:::::ik weet ook niet of dit een serieuze bron is *:::::https://michaelbeijer.co.uk/archives/Categories/Dictionaries/De_vreemde_woorden_Fokko_Bos_1955.pdf [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 12:20 (CET) *::::::Aha kijk, interessant. Alleen: een bron die bovendien woorden als [[abattoir]], [[abdicatie]], [[boudoir]] en [[biseksualiteit]] als "vreemd" aanmerkt...? Voor mij zijn dit allemaal doodnormale woorden. Het lijkt eerlijk gezegd een beetje alsof de samenstellers daarvan helemaal geen leenwoorden in het Nederlands wilden. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) *:::::::Moet die verwijderdiscussie nu nog steeds blijven staan? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 12:40 (CET) *::::::::Mijn indruk is dat we hier een grensgeval hebben. Ook enkele andere woordenboeken voor "vreemde woorden" vermelden illegibel. Met "vreemd" wordt in dit verband bedoeld "uit een andere taal afkomstig". Uiteraard kunnen zulke woorden na verloop van tijd minder als "vreemd" worden ervaren. Maar dit soort woordenboeken kan soms ook woorden bevatten die nooit echt gangbaar zijn geweest en dat geldt nog sterker voor puzzelwoordenboeken. Ik heb één recent voorbeeld van gebruik gevonden in [https://scriptiebank.be/file/7698/ deze masterscriptie uit 2010], p. 167 n. 470. Een vondst uit 1795 bleek een verschrijving te zijn. De meest solide oplossing zou bestaan uit nog 2 degelijke vindplaatsen. Helaas ben ik de komende week niet in de gelegenheid dit goed uit te zoeken, maar ik kom er na volgend weekend op terug. Als iemand voor die tijd nog twee andere vindplaatsen aandraagt, zouden we deze discussie eerder kunnen beëindigen, maar het lijkt me geen probleem als daarvoor wat meer tijd nodig is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 dec 2025 22:46 (CET) *::::::::Dit woord duikt in het begin van de 20e eeuw op in verschillende "Kunstwoordenboeken", die vaak ook gelegenheidsontleningen vermelden die geen gangbaar Nederlands zijn. Het woord staat ook niet in het erg uitgebreide ''Woordenboek der Nederlandsche taal'' en ik heb geen teksten uit die tijd kunnen vinden waarin het woord werd gebruikt. Daarna komt het nog wel voor in puzzelwoordenboeken, maar niet in gewone Nederlandse teksten, met uitzondering van de ene vindplaats hierboven. Het staat wel vaak in machinevertalingen uit het Engels, vermoedelijk omdat die (nog) geen omzetting van "illegible" naar "onleesbaar" kennen en dan terugvallen op het algoritme dat "-ible" vaak met "-ibel" kan worden vertaald. Alles bij elkaar lijkt het me niet te voldoen aan onze criteria voor opname. Voor de lezers lijkt me de meest nuttige oplossing dat we het lemma omzetten in het Engelse "[[illegible]]". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 16:27 (CET) *:::::::::Ik denk dat u gelijk heeft, vergelijk met dit woordenboek incredibel en impossibel die denk ik ook niet geschikt zijn voor WikiWoordenboek: *:::::::::https://www.dbnl.org/tekst/weil004kuns01_01/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 21:45 (CET) *:::::::::*Verplaatst naar de {{WikiW|Protologisme/illegibel|protologismen}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 jan 2026 16:15 (CET) *[[choopie]] - Dit woord laat zich op geen enkele manier attesteren. De betreffende tv-serie is daarvoor kennelijk (nog) niet bekend genoeg. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:58 (CET) *:Ik denk dat we het kunnen verplaatsen naar de protologismen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 19:16 (CET) *::Dan zou er toch minstens een indicatie moeten zijn dat het als woord (niet als eigennaam) gebruikt wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:55 (CET) *:::Naar de protologismen verplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:09 (CET) *::::Ik denk dat het beter is om het eerst aan MarcoSwart te vragen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:16 (CET) *:::::MarcoSwart, kan ik deze naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:18 (CET) *::::::Ik bedoel op de overlegpagina van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:20 (CET) *:::::::Op zichzelf is het prima de discussie hier te voeren. Het is wel beter eerst de uitkomst van die discussie af te wachten en daar niet op vooruit te lopen. Mijn inhoudelijke vraag blijft: ik zie Choopie(s) eigenlijk alleen als eigennaam voorkomen, nooit als woord. Ik zie ook niet meteen een reden waardoor dat in de toekomst zal veranderen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 23:44 (CET) *[[dierenbevrijdingsfronten]] lijkt me een niet bestaand meervoud van [[Dierenbevrijdingsfront]], een eigennaam. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 14:21 (CET) *:Het woord zou dan ook met een hoofdletter geschreven moeten worden. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 14:27 (CET) **Verwijderd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 11:06 (CEST) {{Clr}}[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] <!-- begin navigatie --> <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder afgehandeld:''' [[WikiWoordenboek:Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's/2017|2017]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's/2018|2018]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's/2019|2019]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's/2020|2020]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's/2021|2021]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's/2022|2022]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's/2023|2023]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's/2024|2024]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's/2025|2025]] • [[WikiWoordenboek:Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's#Recent afgehandeld|Recent afgehandeld]] </div><section end=nav/> {{Clr}} <!-- einde navigatie --> qniwzzuogavzupx0sarktkievzljsbr 0 41894 5504210 5357494 2026-03-31T07:34:12Z Jochenknabben 60937 {{ov|nld}} voor derde def 5504210 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|vərˈkizə(n)}} {{-syll-}} *ver·kie·zen {{-etym-}} *afgeleid van [[kiezen#Nederlands|kiezen]] {{pref|nld|ver-}} {{-nlstam-|verkiezen|[[verkoos]]<br/>''archaïsch'': <br/>[[verkoor]]|[[verkozen]]<br/>''archaïsch'': <br/>[[verkoren]]|||scheid=o|k=2}} {{-verb-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|nld}} iemand door een stemming een ambt doen toekomen {{bijv-1|President Bush werd in 2000 maar op het nippertje '''verkozen'''.}} #{{ov|nld}} iets door een stemming een titel doen toekomen {{citeer|boek|jaar=2018|auteur=Tim Voors|titel=Alleen, De Pacific Crest Trail te voet van Mexico naar Canada|uitgave=eBook: Mat-Zet bv, Soest|uitgever=Fontaine Uitgevers |taal=nl|citaat=De John Muir Trail (JMT), die onderdeel van de PCT is, is door de lezers van National Geographic '''verkozen''' tot mooiste wandelpad ter wereld.}} {{citeer|boek|citaat={{ouds|1806}} Hy boezemde zyne gevoelens den Aardsbisschop van Keulen in; en verwekte eene party,die bertholdus, een geslaagen vyand van het Zwabische Huis, tot Keizer '''verkoor'''.|taal=nl|url=https://resolver.kb.nl/resolve?urn=dpo:9765:mpeg21:0534|titel=Oude en hedendaagsche algemeene wereldlyke geschiedenis.|auteur=Millot|jaar=1776|uitgever=Yntema, Jacob Amsterdam, 1762-1799 Tieboel, Jacob Amsterdam, 1762-1784 Loosjes Pz, Adriaan Haarlem, 1783-1803}} #{{ov|nld}} aan iets of iemand de voorkeur geven {{citeer|artikel|datum=16 mei 2022|auteur=|titel=Queen Elizabeth geniet zichtbaar van paardenshow|url=https://nos.nl/artikel/2429010-queen-elizabeth-geniet-zichtbaar-van-paardenshow|uitgever=NOS |taal=nl|bezochtdatum=2022-05-16|citaat=Presentator Omid Djalili kon het niet laten daar kort naar te verwijzen. "Wat fijn dat u ons '''verkozen''' heeft boven de opening van het parlementaire jaar."}} {{-hypo-}} *[[herverkiezen]], [[uitverkiezen]] {{-drv-}} *[[verkiesbaar]], [[verkieselijk]], [[verkieslijk]], [[verkiezing]] {{-expr-}} {{expr|Het hazepad '''(ver)kiezen'''|er vandoor gaan of vluchten}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. iemand door een stemming een ambt doen toekomen}} *{{afr}}: {{trad|af|verkies}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|auserwählen}}, {{trad|de|wählen}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|elect}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|élire}} {{trans-mid}} *{{nor}}: {{trad|no|foretrekke}} *{{nno}}: {{trad|nn|føretrekka}}, {{trad|nn|føretrekke}}, {{trad|nn|føretrekkja}}, {{trad|nn|føretrekkje}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|preferir}}, {{trad|es|elegir}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{refs}} 6nb8uixzvjwfb86cyc0sh00vugpjqg2 5504211 5504210 2026-03-31T07:34:38Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nld: + syn 5504211 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|vərˈkizə(n)}} {{-syll-}} *ver·kie·zen {{-etym-}} *afgeleid van [[kiezen#Nederlands|kiezen]] {{pref|nld|ver-}} {{-nlstam-|verkiezen|[[verkoos]]<br/>''archaïsch'': <br/>[[verkoor]]|[[verkozen]]<br/>''archaïsch'': <br/>[[verkoren]]|||scheid=o|k=2}} {{-verb-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|nld}} iemand door een stemming een ambt doen toekomen {{bijv-1|President Bush werd in 2000 maar op het nippertje '''verkozen'''.}} #{{ov|nld}} iets door een stemming een titel doen toekomen {{citeer|boek|jaar=2018|auteur=Tim Voors|titel=Alleen, De Pacific Crest Trail te voet van Mexico naar Canada|uitgave=eBook: Mat-Zet bv, Soest|uitgever=Fontaine Uitgevers |taal=nl|citaat=De John Muir Trail (JMT), die onderdeel van de PCT is, is door de lezers van National Geographic '''verkozen''' tot mooiste wandelpad ter wereld.}} {{citeer|boek|citaat={{ouds|1806}} Hy boezemde zyne gevoelens den Aardsbisschop van Keulen in; en verwekte eene party,die bertholdus, een geslaagen vyand van het Zwabische Huis, tot Keizer '''verkoor'''.|taal=nl|url=https://resolver.kb.nl/resolve?urn=dpo:9765:mpeg21:0534|titel=Oude en hedendaagsche algemeene wereldlyke geschiedenis.|auteur=Millot|jaar=1776|uitgever=Yntema, Jacob Amsterdam, 1762-1799 Tieboel, Jacob Amsterdam, 1762-1784 Loosjes Pz, Adriaan Haarlem, 1783-1803}} #{{ov|nld}} aan iets of iemand de voorkeur geven {{citeer|artikel|datum=16 mei 2022|auteur=|titel=Queen Elizabeth geniet zichtbaar van paardenshow|url=https://nos.nl/artikel/2429010-queen-elizabeth-geniet-zichtbaar-van-paardenshow|uitgever=NOS |taal=nl|bezochtdatum=2022-05-16|citaat=Presentator Omid Djalili kon het niet laten daar kort naar te verwijzen. "Wat fijn dat u ons '''verkozen''' heeft boven de opening van het parlementaire jaar."}} {{-syn-}} *[3] [[prefereren]] {{-hypo-}} *[[herverkiezen]], [[uitverkiezen]] {{-drv-}} *[[verkiesbaar]], [[verkieselijk]], [[verkieslijk]], [[verkiezing]] {{-expr-}} {{expr|Het hazepad '''(ver)kiezen'''|er vandoor gaan of vluchten}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. iemand door een stemming een ambt doen toekomen}} *{{afr}}: {{trad|af|verkies}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|auserwählen}}, {{trad|de|wählen}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|elect}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|élire}} {{trans-mid}} *{{nor}}: {{trad|no|foretrekke}} *{{nno}}: {{trad|nn|føretrekka}}, {{trad|nn|føretrekke}}, {{trad|nn|føretrekkja}}, {{trad|nn|føretrekkje}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|preferir}}, {{trad|es|elegir}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{refs}} ekli5056v43j4k6t3igpj3jkf0hr329 0 41921 5504084 5289528 2026-03-30T16:23:48Z Latijn 65243 5504084 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{zie-ook|lijder}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈlɛidər}} **{{pron-reg|N=a}} {{IPA|/ˈlɛɪ̯dər/|nld}} **{{pron-reg|V=a}} {{IPA|/ˈlɛːdər/|nld}} **{{pron-reg|L=a}} {{IPA|/ˈlɛɪ̯dər/|nld}} {{-syll-}} *lei·der {{-etym-}} *{{nomact}} van [[leiden]] {{suff|nld|-er}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #iemand die leidt of bestuurt {{bijv-1|Elke goed samenwerkende groep heeft een '''{{pn}}''' nodig.}} {{citeer|artikel|datum = 16 mei 2025|auteur = Dik Verkuil |titel = Het vertrouwen van Jan Terlouw was zijn kracht en zijn zwakte|url = https://nos.nl/artikel/2567518-het-vertrouwen-van-jan-terlouw-was-zijn-kracht-en-zijn-zwakte|uitgever = NOS|bezochtdatum =2025-05-16|citaat = Vanaf 1971 was hij elf jaar landelijk politicus, waarvan negen jaar als leider van D66. Als het vleesgeworden redelijk alternatief gaf hij de partij na het vertrek van de flamboyante oprichter Hans van Mierlo een nieuw gezicht. }} {{citeer|artikel|datum = 10 mei 2025 |auteur = |titel = Criminoloog Wouter Buikhuisen (91) overleden |url = https://nos.nl/artikel/2566747-criminoloog-wouter-buikhuisen-91-overleden|uitgever = NOS|bezochtdatum =2025-05-11|citaat = Vooral in de media werd Buikhuisen verguisd, onder meer door columnist Piet Grijs (een pseudoniem van Hugo Brandt Corstius). Die noemde hem een "kale, impotente carrièrewetenschapper" en vergeleek hem met de toenmalige leider van de nationaalsocialistische Nederlandse Volks-Unie (NVU). }} {{citeer|artikel|datum = |auteur = |titel = |url = https://www.babytv.com/nl/show/choopies|uitgever = BbayTV|bezochtdatum =2026-03-30|citaat = De Choopies zijn vrolijke en avontuurlijke padvinders. In elke aflevering krijgen ze een taak van hun leider en hebben ze de missie om een verschillend voorwerp mee terug te brengen. Als ze terug zijn, monteert de leider alle aparte voorwerpen; met elkaar vormen deze iets waar iedereen van kan genieten. }} #een persoon of ploeg die op de eerste plaats staat in een competitie of wedstrijd {{bijv-1|De '''{{pn}}''' in de Ronde van Frankrijk verstevigt zijn leiderspositie door nog een etappe te winnen.}} {{-syn-}} *[2] [[koploper]] {{-rel-}} *{{m-form|leidster}} *[[baas]], [[chef]], [[leidsman]], [[overste]], [[voorman]] {{-hypo-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[ANC-leider]] *[[CDA-leider]] *[[Caricom-leider]] *[[D66-leider]] *[[EG-leider]] *[[EU-leider]] *[[Koerdenleider]] *[[LPF-leider]] *[[Labourleider]] *[[PKK-leider]] *[[PLO-leider]] *[[PVV-leider]] *[[PvdA-leider]] *[[SP-leider]] *[[Sovjetleider]] *[[VVD-leider]] *[[aanbiddingsleider]] *[[aanvalsleider]] *[[actieleider]] *[[afdelingsleider]] *[[arbeidspartijleider]] *[[artsenleider]] *[[ballingenleider]] *[[bandleider]] *[[bedrijfsleider]] *[[bendeleider]] *[[berenleider]] *[[bigbandleider]] *[[boerenleider]] *[[bondsleider]] *[[campagneleider]] *[[clanleider]] *[[clubleider]] *[[clusterleider]] *[[coalitieleider]] *[[collega-leider]] *[[communistenleider]] *[[competitieleider]] *[[coupleider]] *[[cursusleider]] *[[debatleider]] *[[delegatieleider]] *[[demoleider]] *[[discussieleider]] *[[districtleider]] *[[dorpsleider]] *[[duoleider]] *[[eileider]] *[[elftalleider]] {{==}} *[[emissieleider]] *[[equipeleider]] *[[ex-leider]] *[[excursieleider]] *[[expeditieleider]] *[[factieleider]] *[[festivalleider]] *[[fractieleider]] *[[gesprekleider]] *[[gespreksleider]] *[[gouwleider]] *[[groepsleider]] *[[guerrillaleider]] *[[hindoeleider]] *[[hoofdleider]] *[[intervisieleider]] *[[jeugdleider]] *[[juntaleider]] *[[kampleider]] *[[kerkleider]] *[[klassementsleider]] *[[kleuterleider]] *[[koorleider]] *[[kringleider]] *[[kuddeleider]] *[[legerleider]] *[[locatieleider]] *[[luchtverkeersleider]] *[[maffialeider]] *[[marktleider]] *[[meerderheidsleider]] *[[mijnwerkersleider]] *[[militieleider]] *[[moslimleider]] *[[nazileider]] *[[nulleider]] *[[onderzoeksleider]] *[[oorlogsleider]] *[[opinieleider]] *[[opnameleider]] *[[oppositieleider]] *[[opstandelingenleider]] *[[orkestleider]] *[[oud-leider]] *[[partijleider]] *[[pierleider]] *[[pijpleider]] *[[pisleider]] *[[ploegleider]] *[[prijsleider]] {{==}} *[[productieleider]] *[[proefleider]] *[[programmaleider]] *[[projectleider]] *[[propagandaleider]] *[[quizleider]] *[[rayonleider]] *[[rebellenleider]] *[[regeringsleider]] *[[reisleider]] *[[ressortleider]] *[[schoolleider]] *[[scoutsleider]] *[[sekteleider]] *[[socialistenleider]] *[[spelleider]] *[[sportleider]] *[[stakingsleider]] *[[stamleider]] *[[studentenleider]] *[[studieleider]] *[[studierichtingsleider]] *[[syndicaatsleider]] *[[teamleider]] *[[terreurleider]] *[[terroristenleider]] *[[thuislandleider]] *[[toernooileider]] *[[toneelleider]] *[[topleider]] *[[tornooileider]] *[[troepleider]] *[[uitvaartleider]] *[[urineleider]] *[[vakbondsleider]] *[[verkeersleider]] *[[verkoopleider]] *[[verzetsleider]] *[[vluchtleider]] *[[volksleider]] *[[vormingsleider]] *[[vuurleider]] *[[wachtleider]] *[[wedstrijdleider]] *[[wereldleider]] *[[werfleider]] *[[werkgeversleider]] *[[werkleider]] *[[zaadleider]] *[[zangleider]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-drv-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[Leiderdorp]] *[[leidersbeginsel]] *[[leiderscapaciteit]] *[[leiderschap]] {{==}} *[[leidersduo]] *[[leidersfiguur]] *[[leiderskwaliteiten]] *[[leidersplaats]] *[[leiderspositie]] {{==}} *[[leidersprincipe]] *[[leidersrol]] *[[leidersstijl]] *[[leiderstricot]] *[[leiderstrui]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. iemand die leidt of bestuurt}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Anführer}} {{m}}, {{trad|de|Führer}} {{m}}, {{trad|de|Leiter}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|leader}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|dirigeant}} {{m}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|jefe}} {{m}}, {{trad|es|director}} {{m}}, {{trad|es|líder}} {{m}}, {{trad|es|dirigente}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{trans-top|2. een persoon of ploeg die op de eerste plaats staat in een competitie of wedstrijd}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Spitzenreiter}} {{m}}, {{trad|de|Tabellenführer}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|leader}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|chef}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=deu=}} {{-adverb-|deu}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[helaas]] {{=lim=}} {{-pron-}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ˈlɛ^ɪðɐ(r)/|lim}} ''(Etsbergs)'' {{-adverb-|lim}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[helaas]] {{bijv-2|Achter g'm Kriege woort 't Platoeasj, 't Lèmbörgsj Veurlèmbörgs, tözaam g'm Hoeagpruusje es "ennemis" gezeen èn daodórch is 't '''leider''' oedgestórve.|Na de Tweede Wereldoorlog werd het Platois, het Limburgs van het oude Hertogdom Limburg, samen met het Hoogduits als "ennemis" gezien en daardoor is het '''jammer genoeg''' uitgestorven.}} nhg40wa1f131dlydqoq3uui7sg50j8g 5504085 5504084 2026-03-30T16:24:23Z Latijn 65243 Versie [[Special:Diff/5504084|5504084]] van [[Special:Contributions/Latijn|Latijn]] ([[User talk:Latijn|overleg]]) ongedaan gemaakt 5504085 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{zie-ook|lijder}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈlɛidər}} **{{pron-reg|N=a}} {{IPA|/ˈlɛɪ̯dər/|nld}} **{{pron-reg|V=a}} {{IPA|/ˈlɛːdər/|nld}} **{{pron-reg|L=a}} {{IPA|/ˈlɛɪ̯dər/|nld}} {{-syll-}} *lei·der {{-etym-}} *{{nomact}} van [[leiden]] {{suff|nld|-er}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #iemand die leidt of bestuurt {{bijv-1|Elke goed samenwerkende groep heeft een '''{{pn}}''' nodig.}} {{citeer|artikel|datum = 16 mei 2025|auteur = Dik Verkuil |titel = Het vertrouwen van Jan Terlouw was zijn kracht en zijn zwakte|url = https://nos.nl/artikel/2567518-het-vertrouwen-van-jan-terlouw-was-zijn-kracht-en-zijn-zwakte|uitgever = NOS|bezochtdatum =2025-05-16|citaat = Vanaf 1971 was hij elf jaar landelijk politicus, waarvan negen jaar als leider van D66. Als het vleesgeworden redelijk alternatief gaf hij de partij na het vertrek van de flamboyante oprichter Hans van Mierlo een nieuw gezicht. }} {{citeer|artikel|datum = 10 mei 2025 |auteur = |titel = Criminoloog Wouter Buikhuisen (91) overleden |url = https://nos.nl/artikel/2566747-criminoloog-wouter-buikhuisen-91-overleden|uitgever = NOS|bezochtdatum =2025-05-11|citaat = Vooral in de media werd Buikhuisen verguisd, onder meer door columnist Piet Grijs (een pseudoniem van Hugo Brandt Corstius). Die noemde hem een "kale, impotente carrièrewetenschapper" en vergeleek hem met de toenmalige leider van de nationaalsocialistische Nederlandse Volks-Unie (NVU). }} #een persoon of ploeg die op de eerste plaats staat in een competitie of wedstrijd {{bijv-1|De '''{{pn}}''' in de Ronde van Frankrijk verstevigt zijn leiderspositie door nog een etappe te winnen.}} {{-syn-}} *[2] [[koploper]] {{-rel-}} *{{m-form|leidster}} *[[baas]], [[chef]], [[leidsman]], [[overste]], [[voorman]] {{-hypo-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[ANC-leider]] *[[CDA-leider]] *[[Caricom-leider]] *[[D66-leider]] *[[EG-leider]] *[[EU-leider]] *[[Koerdenleider]] *[[LPF-leider]] *[[Labourleider]] *[[PKK-leider]] *[[PLO-leider]] *[[PVV-leider]] *[[PvdA-leider]] *[[SP-leider]] *[[Sovjetleider]] *[[VVD-leider]] *[[aanbiddingsleider]] *[[aanvalsleider]] *[[actieleider]] *[[afdelingsleider]] *[[arbeidspartijleider]] *[[artsenleider]] *[[ballingenleider]] *[[bandleider]] *[[bedrijfsleider]] *[[bendeleider]] *[[berenleider]] *[[bigbandleider]] *[[boerenleider]] *[[bondsleider]] *[[campagneleider]] *[[clanleider]] *[[clubleider]] *[[clusterleider]] *[[coalitieleider]] *[[collega-leider]] *[[communistenleider]] *[[competitieleider]] *[[coupleider]] *[[cursusleider]] *[[debatleider]] *[[delegatieleider]] *[[demoleider]] *[[discussieleider]] *[[districtleider]] *[[dorpsleider]] *[[duoleider]] *[[eileider]] *[[elftalleider]] {{==}} *[[emissieleider]] *[[equipeleider]] *[[ex-leider]] *[[excursieleider]] *[[expeditieleider]] *[[factieleider]] *[[festivalleider]] *[[fractieleider]] *[[gesprekleider]] *[[gespreksleider]] *[[gouwleider]] *[[groepsleider]] *[[guerrillaleider]] *[[hindoeleider]] *[[hoofdleider]] *[[intervisieleider]] *[[jeugdleider]] *[[juntaleider]] *[[kampleider]] *[[kerkleider]] *[[klassementsleider]] *[[kleuterleider]] *[[koorleider]] *[[kringleider]] *[[kuddeleider]] *[[legerleider]] *[[locatieleider]] *[[luchtverkeersleider]] *[[maffialeider]] *[[marktleider]] *[[meerderheidsleider]] *[[mijnwerkersleider]] *[[militieleider]] *[[moslimleider]] *[[nazileider]] *[[nulleider]] *[[onderzoeksleider]] *[[oorlogsleider]] *[[opinieleider]] *[[opnameleider]] *[[oppositieleider]] *[[opstandelingenleider]] *[[orkestleider]] *[[oud-leider]] *[[partijleider]] *[[pierleider]] *[[pijpleider]] *[[pisleider]] *[[ploegleider]] *[[prijsleider]] {{==}} *[[productieleider]] *[[proefleider]] *[[programmaleider]] *[[projectleider]] *[[propagandaleider]] *[[quizleider]] *[[rayonleider]] *[[rebellenleider]] *[[regeringsleider]] *[[reisleider]] *[[ressortleider]] *[[schoolleider]] *[[scoutsleider]] *[[sekteleider]] *[[socialistenleider]] *[[spelleider]] *[[sportleider]] *[[stakingsleider]] *[[stamleider]] *[[studentenleider]] *[[studieleider]] *[[studierichtingsleider]] *[[syndicaatsleider]] *[[teamleider]] *[[terreurleider]] *[[terroristenleider]] *[[thuislandleider]] *[[toernooileider]] *[[toneelleider]] *[[topleider]] *[[tornooileider]] *[[troepleider]] *[[uitvaartleider]] *[[urineleider]] *[[vakbondsleider]] *[[verkeersleider]] *[[verkoopleider]] *[[verzetsleider]] *[[vluchtleider]] *[[volksleider]] *[[vormingsleider]] *[[vuurleider]] *[[wachtleider]] *[[wedstrijdleider]] *[[wereldleider]] *[[werfleider]] *[[werkgeversleider]] *[[werkleider]] *[[zaadleider]] *[[zangleider]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-drv-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[Leiderdorp]] *[[leidersbeginsel]] *[[leiderscapaciteit]] *[[leiderschap]] {{==}} *[[leidersduo]] *[[leidersfiguur]] *[[leiderskwaliteiten]] *[[leidersplaats]] *[[leiderspositie]] {{==}} *[[leidersprincipe]] *[[leidersrol]] *[[leidersstijl]] *[[leiderstricot]] *[[leiderstrui]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. iemand die leidt of bestuurt}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Anführer}} {{m}}, {{trad|de|Führer}} {{m}}, {{trad|de|Leiter}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|leader}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|dirigeant}} {{m}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|jefe}} {{m}}, {{trad|es|director}} {{m}}, {{trad|es|líder}} {{m}}, {{trad|es|dirigente}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{trans-top|2. een persoon of ploeg die op de eerste plaats staat in een competitie of wedstrijd}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Spitzenreiter}} {{m}}, {{trad|de|Tabellenführer}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|leader}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|chef}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=deu=}} {{-adverb-|deu}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[helaas]] {{=lim=}} {{-pron-}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ˈlɛ^ɪðɐ(r)/|lim}} ''(Etsbergs)'' {{-adverb-|lim}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[helaas]] {{bijv-2|Achter g'm Kriege woort 't Platoeasj, 't Lèmbörgsj Veurlèmbörgs, tözaam g'm Hoeagpruusje es "ennemis" gezeen èn daodórch is 't '''leider''' oedgestórve.|Na de Tweede Wereldoorlog werd het Platois, het Limburgs van het oude Hertogdom Limburg, samen met het Hoogduits als "ennemis" gezien en daardoor is het '''jammer genoeg''' uitgestorven.}} mmbq0flcqc9mahtp3bxpu03suxlziu2 0 42133 5504062 5493169 2026-03-30T15:53:49Z Lotje 8037 +afbeelding 5504062 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[Bestand:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|thumb|De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]] (''Varanus komodoensis'')]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|klɑu}}; {{IPA|/klʌu/|nld}} {{-syll-}} *klauw {{-etym-}} * In de betekenis van ‘nagel’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in het jaar 901 {{sijs}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #{{zoötomie|nld}} uiteinde van een poot met kromme nagels van een [[roofdier]] {{bijv-1|Met z'n reusachtige '''klauwen''' vermorzelt het beest z'n prooi.}} #{{informeel|nld}} (''grof'') [[hand]] {{bijv-1|Blijf met je '''klauwen''' van mijn lijf!}} {{-hypo-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[aasklauw]] *[[arendsklauw]] *[[berenklauw]] {{==}} *[[dievenklauw]] *[[enklauw]] *[[hanenklauw]] {{==}} *[[haviksklauw]] *[[hubertusklauw]] *[[kalfsklauw]] {{==}} *[[kattenklauw]] *[[leeuwenklauw]] *[[onderklauw]] {{==}} *[[plaatklauw]] *[[vierklauw]] *[[wolfsklauw]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-drv-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[klauwaard]] *[[klauwanker]] *[[klauwbuik]] {{==}} *[[klauwen]] *[[klauwengang]] *[[klauwer]] {{==}} *[[klauwhamer]] *[[klauwhand]] *[[klauwhoek]] *[[klauwier]] {{==}} *[[klauwijzer]] *[[klauwkikker]] *[[klauwnagel]] *[[klauwolie]] {{==}} *[[klauwplaat]] *[[klauwstuk]] *[[klauwval]] *[[klauwzeer]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-expr-}} {{expr|In de '''klauwen''' hebben|In zijn macht hebben; in toom hebben of houden}} {{expr|In de '''klauwen''' van iemand vallen|Door iemand onderschept worden}} {{expr|'''Klauwen''' en nagels hebben|Zich kunnen verdedigen}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. poot van een roofdier}} *{{dan}}: {{trad|da|klo}} {{c}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Klaue}} {{f}}, {{trad|de|Kralle}} {{f}}, {{trad|de|Fänge}} {{m}} {{p}} (''bij vogels'') *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|claw}}, {{trad|en|talon}} (''bij vogels'') *{{fao}}: {{trad|fo|klógv}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|griffe}} {{f}}, {{trad|fr|serres}} {{f}} {{p}} (''bij vogels'') *{{isl}}: {{trad|is|kló}} {{f}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|garra}} {{f}} *{{kcg}}: {{trad|kcg|ga̱fwuo}} *{{swe}}: {{trad|sv|klo}} {{c}} {{trans-bottom}} {{trans-top|2. hand}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Klaue}} {{f}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|claw}}, {{trad|en|paw}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|griffe}} {{f}}, {{trad|fr|patte}} {{f}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|garra}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-verb-|0}} {{1ps|klauwen}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{kcg-interwiki}} 6zl2hxz9amunw23elqx7teym36rar2r 0 44513 5504161 4735091 2026-03-30T19:44:35Z De Wikischim 13592 "restrain" betekent niet precies dit, juister woord gekozen 5504161 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɪmbɪndə/|nld}} {{-syll-}} *in·bin·den {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|in|bw||binden|ww}} {{-nlstam-|{{pn}}|[[bond in]]|[[ingebonden]]|||scheid=s|k=3}} {{-verb-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|nld}} door stevige omwikkeling bijeenhouden {{bijv-1|'''Bind''' voorlopig dat verwonde been maar stevig '''in'''.}} #{{ov|nld}} losse geschriften tot een enkel boekwerk verwerken {{bijv-1|Ik heb de losse nummers van dit jaar '''in''' laten '''binden'''.}} #{{inerg|nld}} minder weerstand bieden, zich minder of helemaal niet meer verzetten tegen iets {{bijv-1|Na die kordate afwijzing heeft hij toch aardig '''ingebonden'''.}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. door stevige omwikkeling bijeenhouden}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|einbinden}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|bind}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|relier}} {{trans-mid}} *{{ita}}: {{trad|it|rilegare}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|encuadernar}} {{trans-bottom}} {{trans-top|2. losse geschriften tot een enkel boekwerk verwerken}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|einbinden}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|bind}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|relier}} {{trans-mid}} *{{ita}}: {{trad|it|rilegare}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|encuadernar}} {{trans-bottom}} {{trans-top|3. minder heftig tekeergaan}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|zurückstecken}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|relent}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|retenir}} {{trans-mid}} *{{ita}}: {{trad|it|moderarsi}}, {{trad|it|contenersi}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|recoger velas}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{refs}} g37nuqj9f7qddqfmx4v0doy9y996g7d 0 45795 5504135 3396258 2026-03-30T18:59:39Z De Wikischim 13592 5504135 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|en-us-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}} (VS)|eng}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/rɪˈkwɛst/|eng}} {{-ennoun-|{{pn}}|{{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{Q|aanvraag|nld|zn}} #{{Q|verzoek|nld|zn}} {{-enverb-}} {{-verb-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|eng}} {{Q|aanvragen|nld|ww}} #{{ov|eng}} {{Q|verzoeken|nld|ww}} 2bw0mny8bcz18l1ot349tuscufspghz 0 53740 5504278 5412732 2026-03-31T11:04:23Z Lotje 8037 +afbeelding 5504278 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[afbeelding:Herbst in Landschlacht TG (2018).jpg|thumb|'''Klimop''' (''hedera helix'') aan een woning in Zwitserland]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/'klɪ.mɔp/|nld}} {{-syll-}} *klim·op {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|klim|ww||op|}} {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}pen]]<br>[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} / {{n}} of {{n}} #{{bloemplanten|nld}} {{species|Hedera helix}}, een groenblijvende houtige plant die groeit op vochtige, voedselrijke grond langs muren en tegen bomen waaraan de plant zich met korte luchtwortels vastklampt {{citeer|boek|jaar=2018|auteur=Pfeiffer, Ilja Leonard|auteurlink=Ilja Leonard Pfeijffer|titel=Grand Hotel Europa|isbn=978-90-295-2622-7|pagina=13 |uitgever=De Arbeiderspers|taal=nl|citaat= De zuilengalerij was begroeid met '''klimop'''. Een van de grote aardewerken vazen waaruit bougainville golfde, was gebarsten. Onkruid groeide tussen het grind. Vredig, maar dat was het woord niet. Berustend. Men zou het verstrijken van de tijd en het verlies van alle dingen inderdaad net zo goed kunnen aanvaarden. }} {{citeer|boek|jaar=2018|auteur=Danielle Teller (vert. Marja Borg)|titel=Er was eens iets anders|isbn=9789026346477|uitgever=Ambo/Anthos uitgevers|taal=nl| citaat= Ik zag de ratten niet die in het donker rondrenden, noch hoorde ik het geknars van termieten die zich te goed deden aan dakspanten en schoren. Ik voelde de klimop niet die aan de stenen trok en de torens in zand veranderde. }} {{-syn-}} * [[boomveil]], [[eiloof]], [[wedewinde]] {{-drv-}} *[[klimopachtig]], [[klimopbremraap]], [[klimopereprijs]], [[klimopfamilie]], [[klimopwaterranonkel]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. ''Hedera helix'', een groenblijvende houtige plant}} *{{eus}}: {{trad|eu|huntz}} *{{bre}}: {{trad|br|iliav}} {{m}} *{{cat}}: {{trad|ca|heura}} {{f}} *{{dan}}: {{trad|da|vedbend}} {{c}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Efeu}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|ivy}} *{{fao}}: {{trad|fo|viðbenda}} {{f}}, {{trad|fo|viðbendil}} {{m}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|lierre}} {{m}} *{{fry}}: {{trad|fy|klimmerblêd}} *{{hun}}: {{trad|hu|borostyán}} *{{gle}}: {{trad|ga|eidheann}} {{m}} *{{ita}}: {{trad|it|edera}} {{f}} *{{jpn}}: {{trad|ja|ツタ}} (tsuta) {{trans-mid}} *{{lat}}: {{trad|la|hedera}} {{f}} *{{lit}}: {{trad|lt|gebenė}} *[[w:Nederduits|Nederduits]]: {{trad|nds|Eiloov}} {{n}}, {{trad|nds|Ieloof}} {{n}}, {{trad|nds|Klimmop}} {{m}} *{{fas}}: {{trad|fa|سن}} (san), {{trad|fa|پاپیتال}} (pâpitâl) *{{pol}}: {{trad|pl|bluszcz}} {{m}} *{{por}}: {{trad|pt|hera}} {{f}} *{{rus}}: {{trad|ru|плющ}} (pljušč) *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|hiedra}} {{f}} *{{ces}}: {{trad|cs|břečťan}} {{m}} *{{tur}}: {{trad|tr|sarmaşık}} *{{cym}}: {{trad|cy|eiddew}} {{m}} *{{swe}}: {{trad|sv|murgröna}} {{c}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{nlsr|Q26354}} {{wipa}} {{refs}} rjiq6sl0xypdxfspfv2t6abl3a8b1s6 0 54366 5504287 5435706 2026-03-31T11:14:37Z Jochenknabben 60937 Fr: + extra drv 5504287 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɔʁɛj/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *via {{fro}} ''{{Q|oreille|fro}}'' van Vulgair Latijn ''auricula'', verkleinwoord van Klassiek {{lat}} ''{{Q|auris|lat}}'' gevormd door het achtervoegsel ''{{Q|-icula|lat}}'' {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|l'{{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{f}} #{{anatomie|fra}} [[oor]] {{-expr-}} *''{{Q|ce n'est pas tombé dans l'oreille d'un sourd|fra}}'' *''{{Q|mettre la puce à l'oreille de|fra}}'' {{-drv-}} *{{Q|oreillard|fra}} *{{Q|oreiller|fra}} {{-syn-}} *{{Q|esgourde|fra}} ''(spreektaal)'' {{refs}} m0jph96uhfdwo1855bmhskvrsnim85z 4 55515 5504004 5503754 2026-03-30T12:24:59Z MarcoSwart 9001 /* Latijn */ tegen 5504004 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) e17st9rs66ihqexycezvk1i0fu6w884 5504159 5504004 2026-03-30T19:43:28Z Marcel coenders 15906 /* Tegen */ 5504159 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart kkvsu9git4b8qtcxcrhma3t1t5awqk9 5504160 5504159 2026-03-30T19:44:14Z Marcel coenders 15906 /* Tegen */ 5504160 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) cwy26u0519dajl4fmbo3ytf2ltfiwhp 5504162 5504160 2026-03-30T19:45:27Z Marcel coenders 15906 /* Tegen */ 5504162 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) lb7h93gtmg038k70bgyg0xq6gmfbow6 5504168 5504162 2026-03-30T19:47:43Z Latijn 65243 /* Voor 8 */ Reactie 5504168 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) :-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) # ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) 5j6k0vhoemq8ch7nftnc61xjlbhfxlf 5504170 5504168 2026-03-30T19:48:00Z Latijn 65243 5504170 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) jpdnejhwca9rjshac526eq11zod35pc 5504176 5504170 2026-03-30T19:56:43Z De Wikischim 13592 /* Tegen */ 5504176 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) ahqy22l7rppqnv16yex7tlwomph68ay 5504177 5504176 2026-03-30T20:20:30Z Latijn 65243 /* Tegen 8 */ Reactie 5504177 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is weg genoeg, wil ja naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) j5ozk9rmxf353ygwpkm4a8bzfzgh0ko 5504178 5504177 2026-03-30T20:20:49Z Latijn 65243 5504178 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil ja naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) dgo7bsqqvrlyg4opt95euzje7d4a1ti 5504179 5504178 2026-03-30T20:22:03Z Latijn 65243 /* Tegen 8 */ Reactie 5504179 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil ja naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) #::we gaan afzeggen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:22 (CEST) krguh4bw183u6eptcsfgtqab8foujo1 5504180 5504179 2026-03-30T20:24:55Z Latijn 65243 5504180 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil je naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) #::we gaan afzeggen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:22 (CEST) 5tn5ijhwv4yml18q2bwavz20ggfm0v4 5504183 5504180 2026-03-30T20:51:36Z TijdBot 66799 Ik raadt eerder cowboys en indianen in coevorden aan dan ballorig in Emmen 5504183 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) frmblcjb781vc8bhin0vh23c9yc6xaq 5504188 5504183 2026-03-30T21:05:08Z De Wikischim 13592 Herstel chronologie. Versie [[Special:Diff/5504183|5504183]] van [[Special:Contributions/TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[User talk:TijdBot|overleg]]) ongedaan gemaakt 5504188 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil je naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) #::we gaan afzeggen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:22 (CEST) 5tn5ijhwv4yml18q2bwavz20ggfm0v4 5504279 5504188 2026-03-31T11:05:00Z Jochenknabben 60937 /* Latijn */ Tegen 5504279 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) :Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:05 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil je naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) #::we gaan afzeggen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:22 (CEST) esqvo7eu011u8lhp4f7hid3xgxy7lop 5504280 5504279 2026-03-31T11:06:21Z Jochenknabben 60937 /* Tegen */ 5504280 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Nu ik 300 bewerkingen heeft gedaan, 3 maanden ben geregistreerd en een bevestigd e-mailadres heb, kan ik moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:39 (CET) :Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:05 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil je naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) #::we gaan afzeggen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:22 (CEST) # Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) s01nk5roq2sswln0k1o712hu5ri8ekz 5504281 5504280 2026-03-31T11:06:52Z Latijn 65243 5504281 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Ik heb meer dan 20 woorden aangemaakt en ik ben elke maand aanwezig [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) :Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:05 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil je naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) #::we gaan afzeggen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:22 (CEST) # Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) n6pjpjtzzv2is14qayzm5swoqo322za 5504282 5504281 2026-03-31T11:07:16Z Latijn 65243 /* Latijn */ Reactie 5504282 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Ik heb meer dan 20 woorden aangemaakt en ik ben elke maand aanwezig [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) :Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:05 (CEST) ::Reden is gewijzigd, kies je voor dan [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil je naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) #::we gaan afzeggen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:22 (CEST) # Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) nee7ftacvg04qg4j5j76okf4yqhk6xn 5504283 5504282 2026-03-31T11:08:53Z Jochenknabben 60937 /* Latijn */ Reactie 5504283 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Ik heb meer dan 20 woorden aangemaakt en ik ben elke maand aanwezig [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) :Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:05 (CEST) ::Reden is gewijzigd, kies je voor dan [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:07 (CEST) :::Mijn excuses, mijn opmerking was bedoeld voor de tegenstem. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:08 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil je naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) #::we gaan afzeggen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:22 (CEST) # Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) is2jdqtu6st7x6yhrhq6yr7zwk08fmd 5504285 5504283 2026-03-31T11:11:15Z Jochenknabben 60937 /* Latijn */ 5504285 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Ik heb meer dan 20 woorden aangemaakt en ik ben elke maand aanwezig [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) :Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:05 (CEST) ::Reden is gewijzigd, kies je voor dan [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:07 (CEST) :::Mijn excuses, mijn opmerking was bedoeld voor de tegenstem. (dus de argumentatie "hieronder" eigenlijk vanaf hier bezien) [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:08 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil je naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) #::we gaan afzeggen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:22 (CEST) # Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) iid3eu8703sn9a0rgdlgmsmti36fj1n 5504289 5504285 2026-03-31T11:16:13Z Vuurregenboog 66174 /* Tegen 8 */ Reactie 5504289 wikitext text/x-wiki <small>[[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators/Archief|Aanmelding moderators/Archief]]</small> <small>Zie ook: [[WikiWoordenboek:Bureaucraat]] voor aanmelding als bureaucraat.</small> [[Categorie:WikiWoordenboek|Aanmelding moderators]] Hoewel we dit project met z'n allen maken, zijn er een aantal personen met de naam [[WikiWoordenboek:Moderator|moderators]] die speciale taken, verantwoordelijkheden en mogelijkheden hebben. Als moderator heeft u de volgende extra mogelijkheden: *Een pagina verwijderen. *Een IP-adres of gebruiker (de)blokkeren. *Verwijderde pagina's bekijken en terughalen. *Een pagina beveiligen of de beveiliging van een pagina opheffen. *Beveiligde pagina's bewerken. We verwachten van moderators dat ze: *Zich zullen houden aan de [[WikiWoordenboek:Richtlijnen voor moderators|richtlijnen voor moderators]]. *Zich ook verder inzetten voor het algemene nut van WikiWoordenboek. *Contact houden met de overige moderators. Mocht u belangstelling hebben om moderator te worden, noteert u dat dan op deze pagina. Zie voor regelingen omtrent het ontnemen en het aanmelden van het moderatorschap de pagina: [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen rond moderatoren]]. == Aanmelding moderator == === Sjoerddebruin === <!-- Motivering --> Graag zou ik mij willen aanmelden als moderator voornamelijk voor het uitvoeren van onderhoudstaken, bijv. het geschikt maken van WikiWoordenboek voor de aankomende donkere modus en betere werking op mobiele apparaten. Hiervoor heb ik ook toegang nodig tot systeemteksten die alleen te bewerken zijn door interfacemoderatoren, welke recht ik bij deze ook aanvraag. Natuurlijk ook het uitvoeren van de gebruikelijke moderatortaken. Daarnaast heb ik kennis genomen van de bijhorende richtlijnen en heb ik ervaring als (interface)moderator op andere projecten. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 8 jun 2024 23:32 (CEST) :Vraag aan Sjoerd: denk je hiervoor per se op dit project moderatorknoppen nodig te hebben? Ik zie dat je tot vanavond hier precies drie bewerkingen had, en alle drie in de overlegruimte, dus niets in de eigenlijke hoofdnaamruimte. Dus sorry, ik vind deze aanmelding op het eerste gezicht een klein beetje voorbarig overkomen. Ik zal zelf voorlopig niet voor of tegen stemmen. :De details die je hier geeft vallen onder de technische gedeeltes van de wikiprojecten waar ik zelf niet of nauwelijks mee bezig ben, ik kan dus ook niet goed bepalen of je hiervoor heel veel hebt aan moderatorknoppen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 00:07 (CEST) ::Verschillende sjablonen en [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] zijn alleen te bewerken door (interface)moderatoren, dus ja. Ik snap dat ik niet veel heb bijgedragen tot nu toe maar draag WikiWoordenboek wel een warm hart voor. Alleen interfacemoderator zou ik ook prima vinden (hiervoor zou wel de beveiliging van enkele pagina's moeten worden aangepast), maar daar zie ik geen procedure voor hier. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 10:45 (CEST) :::Als algemene informatie: WikiWoordenboek heeft op dit moment [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Speciaal:Gebruikerslijst/sysop 6 moderatoren], waarvan er 3 ook interfacemoderator zijn. :::Als ik het goed begrijp wil je vooral de toegankelijkheid van de WikiWoordenboekpagina's voor onze lezers verbeteren. Dat lijkt me op zichzelf een heel nuttig project. Ik kan me wel voorstellen dat het zinnig is dat er enig overleg over is, zodat we weten wat we doen en waarom. Dat is ook handig voor het draagvlak nu en in de toekomst: we zijn nu soms heel wat tijd bezig om te het hoe en wat van een bepaald sjabloon uit te puzzelen. Is het uitvoerbaar om een projectpagina te maken, waar je beschrijft wat de bedoeling is en wat er wordt veranderd? Je hebt mij al gewezen op de zeer informatieve pagina's van de WMF; het lijkt me goed om hier ergens vast te leggen wat die voor ons betekenen. Dat maakt het ook wat eenvoudiger om te overleggen met andere bewerkers die zich bij dit onderwerp betrokken voelen. Uiteraard wil ik je bij een en ander graag terzijde staan. :::Op WikiWoordenboek zijn moderatoren hoofdzakelijk gebruikers die vaak aan het woordenboek werken en het moderatorwerk als bijkomend werk doen. Daardoor kennen ze de eigenaardigheden van ons project en zijn bewerkers vrij goed en dat maakt het weer mogelijk om vrij informeel te werken. Als je gaandeweg de smaak van het woordenboekenwerk te pakken krijgt, lijkt het me prima als je ook moderator wordt. Als het eigenlijk vooral om het interface gaat, kunnen we bij de inventarisatie op de projectpagina vanzelf zien hoeveel werk er te doen is en op welke plekken. Uiteraard is het geen probleem om bij de uitovering van dit project de bescherming van bepaalde sjablonen tijdelijk op te heffen, dat is wel vaker gebeurd. En zonodig kunnen we je ook tijdelijk moderatorbevoegdheden geven om de klus tot een goed einde te brengen, ook dat is wel eens eerder gebeurd. Vormen deze voorstellen een goede oplossing? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jun 2024 12:15 (CEST) ::::In het kort: ::::* De Wikimedia Foundation is druk bezig met het realiseren van een donkere modus. Hiervoor is een [[:mw:Recommendations for night mode compatibility on Wikimedia wikis|document met aanbevelingen]] opgesteld. Een van de aanbevelingen hierin is het gebruik maken van zogenaamde tokens, door de WMF vastgestelde kleuren, tekstformaten, etc. die zorgen voor een optimale toegankelijkheid (bijv. contrast). Je kan als individuele gebruiker ook makkelijk op alle plekken een waarde naar je eigen voorkeur aanpassen. ::::* Gezien WikiWoordenboek al sinds 2004 actief is zijn er over de jaren diverse aanpassingen gedaan aan de [[MediaWiki:Common.css|layout]], scripts en sjablonen. Sommige wijzigingen zijn vandaag niet meer nodig, kunnen efficiënter of worden aangepast op een manier waardoor de site toegankelijker en meer responsive (geschikt voor mobiele apparaten) wordt. ::::* Diverse veelgebruikte sjablonen zijn in het verleden volledig beveiligd (om goede redenen) en zijn dus voor mij niet te bewerken. Er is geen beveiligingsoptie die moderatoren én interface-moderatoren toelaat. ::::* Ik kan voorstellen doen tot aanpassing, maar ik wil ook niet dat andere moderatoren zich als een doorgeefluik voelen. Ook kan ik sneller een mogelijke correctie uitvoeren. ::::* Een tijdelijk moderatorschap sta ik zeker voor ope, moet ik wel kijken wat de optimale periode daarvoor is. ::::Ik hoop hiermee wat meer duidelijkheid te hebben gegeven. [[Gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|Sjoerddebruin]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Sjoerddebruin|overleg]]) 13 jun 2024 19:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #... ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== === Warddr === <!-- Motivering --> De laatste tijd houd ik mij vaker en vaker bezig met onderhoudstaken, ik heb bijvoorbeeld recent de doorverwijzingen bekeken en alle onnodige doorverwijzingen op de nuweg lijst gezet. Ook controleer ik geregeld nieuwe artikels om te kijken of het spam is of niet. Ik heb de indruk dat de nuweg categorie vaak nogal lang (soms verschillende dagen) vol blijft staan dus het lijkt me interessant om zelf ineens de onzin te kunnen verwijderen. Ik onderschrijf ook de richtlijnen voor moderators. - [[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 20:36 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # [[Gebruiker:Mathonius|Mathonius]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mathonius|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 21:39 (CEST) #Lijkt me prima. [[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 27 aug 2012 22:17 (CEST) # [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 27 aug 2012 22:31 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Wiki13|Wiki13]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Wiki13|overleg]]) 1 sep 2012 10:39 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== Gezien bovenstaande reacties heb ik zonet het moderatorbitje toegevoegd aan Warddr's account. Profficiat Warddr. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 sep 2012 20:36 (CEST) === Cadfaell === Na meer dan 50.000 bewerkingen in dit woordenboek is het aan de tijd, aan een functie als moderator te denken. Zo kan ik mijn afval zelfs opruimen. Ik ben al lang vaak aan boord en kan zo vandalen direct stoppen. Ik volg met deze aanvraag een voorstel van Annabel, zie mijn overleg-pagina. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:03 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #MARCEL [[Gebruiker:MARCEL|MARCEL]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MARCEL|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 15:27 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Warddr|Warddr]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Warddr|overleg]]) 15 aug 2013 19:07 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 15 aug 2013 19:42 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Romaine|Romaine]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Romaine|overleg]]) 18 aug 2013 22:58 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 19 aug 2013 05:59 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 20 aug 2013 22:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... ====Conclusie==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Bij deze is Cadfaell met unanieme eensgezindheid aangesteld als moderator. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 22 aug 2013 20:25 (CEST) :Dank aan iedereen voor zijn stem. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 23 aug 2013 07:22 (CEST) === MarcoSwart === Mijn voornaamste rol op WikiWoordenboek is die van enthousiaste gebruiker en dat wil ik vooral blijven. Hoewel ik ook in die rol wel het nodige vandalisme en rommel opruim, voelt niet helemaal oké om sommige minder leuke klussen steeds naar dezelfde mensen door te schuiven, dus wil ik op mijn beurt de [[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart#Een_verdere_administrator_en_een_verdere_burocraat|suggestie]] van Cadfaell volgen. Ik onderschrijf de richtlijnen voor moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:42 (CET) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jan 2017 11:57 (CET) #Kvdrgeus --[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 16 jan 2017 18:46 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== #... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft een week gelopen. Resultaat: 2 - 0 - 0.<br> MarcoSwart is nu moderator. Proficiat.-- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 27 jan 2017 20:38 (CET) :Proficiat, [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]]. Ik was afwezig ten tijde van de stemming, maar het kan vast geen kwaad om achteraf mijn steun te betuigen aan een kanjer van een gebruiker/moderator. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:24 (CEST) ===MoiraMoira=== Naar aanleiding van [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verzoekpagina_voor_moderatoren/Sokpoppen&oldid=49337844 dit verzoek om hulp] dat ik zag als moderator op nl-wiki en [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/WikiWoordenboek:Helpdesk#Waar_moet_ik_terecht_voor_een_blokkadeaanvraag.3F dit verzoek hier] meld ik me aan voor hulp. Als global sysop heb ik veel ervaring met spambots dus als jullie een admin zoeken die hier kan bezemen om crosswikivandalisme te bestrijden (spam wegkiepen en accounts blokken en laten locken) dan wil ik komen helpen daarmee. Jullie kunnen ook de globale sysops hier toegang geven voor opruimtaken overigens. Dan kan ik het hier ook meenemen bij rondje spambots crosswiki. Dus dit is geen "gewone" modaanvraag maar enkel aanbod om met dit deel te helpen en wikiwoordenbok te bschermen tegen dit soort ellende. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 10:14 (CEST) :Collega Caudax Rex plaatste een noodoproep op nl-wiki - wat ook kan is dat jullie deze wikiversie aan laten merken op meta als global sysop wiki (uitleg van wat ik hierboven al kort aankaartte) dan kunnen mijn gs-collega's en ik jullie helpen want zo gaat dit mooie project naar de maan. [[Gebruiker:MoiraMoira|MoiraMoira]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MoiraMoira|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 15:50 (CEST ::Dag MoiraMoira, dit soort spam is inderdaad storend. Ik zie dit soort accounts aangemaakt worden en heb al eens gevraagd of er een manier is om dit type accounts sneller onschadelijk te maken. Dit project bevindt zich nog op geruime afstand van de maan, ik zou het vooral prettig vinden om te weten hoe we zelf ons stoepje kunnen vegen. Staat er ergens informatie hoe je dat blocken en locken zelf uit kan voeren? Persoonlijk ben ik niet zo gelukkig met het verwijderbeleid op Wikipedia en een 'eigen' oplossing heeft daarom mijn voorkeur. Maar dank voor de aangeboden hulp. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 17:03 (CEST) :::Blokkeren kan je zelf doen, door naar de gebruikers(overleg)pagina te gaan en dan links op "Gebruiker blokkeren" klikken. Een lock kan alleen door een Steward gedaan worden. Dit kan je verzoeken op [[:m:Steward_requests/Global#Requests for global (un)lock and (un)hiding|meta]]. Als je op IRC bent, kan je ook terecht in het stewardkanaal. Als je aangeeft dat het om een spambot gaat, dan hoef je verder niet veel uit te leggen. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:02 (CEST) ::::Dank voor de link naar het locken, maar het geformuleerde beleid komt erop neer dat er op meer wiki's gespamd moet zijn, voordat er gelockt wordt. Mijn vraag is meer: als ik het vermoeden heb dat een nieuw account niet koosjer is, is er dan ergens een lijst die dat kan bevestigen, zodat we meteen kunnen blocken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:49 (CEST) :::::Voor een spambot doen ze niet moeilijk over locken. Anders moet je eens contact opnemen met [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]]. Dat is een Nederlandstalige steward (en moderator op nlwiki) en zij is thuis op het gebied van spambots en de regels omtrent locken. [[Gebruiker:Mbch331|Mbch331]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Mbch331|overleg]]) 23 jun 2017 20:54 (CEST) ::::::Jep, ''at your service''. {{smiley}} Ik zal komend weekend even een reeks spambots global locken en CU's uitvoeren. [[Gebruiker:Trijnstel|Trijnstel]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Trijnstel|overleg]]) 24 jun 2017 00:13 (CEST) ==== Conclusie ==== De stemming heeft nu 2 weken gelopen. Met 0 stemmen voor is MoiraMoira niet gekozen tot moderator. Bedankt voor je aanbod om te helpen, MoiraMoira. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST) :<small>''NB: De discussie hoe we ons het best kunnen weren tegen spammers zal ongetwijfeld op andere (overleg)pagins's voortgezet worden.'' -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 7 jul 2017 11:20 (CEST)</small> :Had dit niet gezien, gezien mijn beperkte aanwezigheid hier de laatste tijd. Was anders zeker voor, gezien MoiraMoira's ervaring, en inzet. Alleen maar positieve ervaringen met haar gehad. [[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 7 jul 2017 12:14 (CEST) === bdijkstra === Hierbij meld ik mij aan voor moderator en tevens [[WikiWoordenboek:Interfacemoderator|interfacemoderator]]. Voornamelijk om problemen op te lossen op beveiligde pagina's. Ik ben moderator en interfacemoderator op nl.wikipedia en nds-nl.wikipedia. --[[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 18 feb 2021 18:00 (CET) ==== Voor ==== # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 07:44 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 20 feb 2021 21:58 (CET) # {{voor}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:29 (CET) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== De peiling heeft 10 dagen gelopen en heeft 3 steunbetuigingen en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Bdijkstra toegevoegd aan de moderatoren en interfacemoderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 feb 2021 23:48 (CET) === Curious === Vanwege een periode van afwezigheid zijn volgens de inactiviteitsregel mijn bevoegdheden als moderator en bureaucraat stopgezet. Nu ik weer meer aanwezig ben, zou ik deze functies weer kunnen oppakken. Bij deze meld ik me aan. -- [[Gebruiker:Curious|Curious]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Curious|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 13:33 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== #Cadfaell -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 1 mei 2021 23:17 (CEST) #[[Gebruiker:Annabel|Annabel]]_{[[Overleg gebruiker:Annabel|(overleg)]]} 3 mei 2021 17:51 (CEST) Mogen bitjes niet meteen toegekend? Cfr. [[WikiWoordenboek:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren#Inactiviteit]] (en de overlegpagina daarvan). Doel van de discussie toen was toch dacht ik een inactiviteitsregel te hebben, maar alles ook niet te bureaucratisch maken :) (leuk toch die woordspeling op bureaucraat) #tevens {{done}}, overeenkomstig opmerking {{ping|Annabel}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mei 2021 19:53 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== #... === Marcel coenders === Na inspreker te zijn geworden van Nederlandse woorden; aanvuller van lemma's waar nog geen meervoudsvormen e.d. van waren; aanvullen van het Wikiwoordenboek met veelvoorkomende woorden; helpen met het voltooien van het Nederlands / Vlaams prevalentie onderzoek; lijkt het mij een logische volgende stap om ook een bijdrage aan de organisatie van het Wikiwoordenboek te leveren in de zin dat ik ga proberen spam, vandalisme e.d. te verwijderen die op de oneven data is ingevoerd zodat Marco Swart (op zijn eigen verzoek) enigszins ontlast kan worden. Zie hiervoor de discussie in de kroeg.[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 15:07 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== # --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 23:51 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # ... ==== Conclusie ==== *De peiling heeft 14 dagen gelopen en heeft 1 steunbetuiging en geen bezwaren of onthoudingen opgeleverd. Daarom heb ik Marcel coenders toegevoegd aan de moderatoren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 12:19 (CEST) === Latijn === Ik heb meer dan 20 woorden aangemaakt en ik ben elke maand aanwezig [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) :Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:05 (CEST) ::Reden is gewijzigd, kies je voor dan [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:07 (CEST) :::Mijn excuses, mijn opmerking was bedoeld voor de tegenstem. (dus de argumentatie "hieronder" eigenlijk vanaf hier bezien) [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:08 (CEST) ==== Voor ==== <s> --[[Gebruiker:TijdBot|TijdBot]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:TijdBot|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:17 (CEST)</s> ''Account is met minder dan 100 bewerkingen niet stemgerechtigd.'' --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) #-- [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) ==== Tegen ==== # --[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:19 (CEST) # Uit je bewerkingen wordt niet duidelijk wat je als moderator zou bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. Ze geven eerder de indruk dat je nog daarvoor nog veel moet leren. En de "steun" van Tijdbot betekent dat je kandidatuur aanleiding is voor manipulaties waarvan WikiWoordenboek beter verschoond kan blijven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:24 (CEST) # Marcel coenders kiest tegen. Ben het helemaal eens met de argumentatie van MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:45 (CEST) #:Ik ben het daar ook mee eens [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:16 (CEST) # (Oh, daar ging het bericht op mijn OP net dus over.) Per MarcoSwart, je hebt nog te weinig bewerkingen en verder zie ik bij je recente bijdragen vooral discussie waarvan het nut onduidelijk is. Op dit moment heeft dit project verder al voldoende actieve mods, is mijn indruk tenminste. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:56 (CEST) #:300 is wel genoeg, wil je naar voor gaan of niet [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:20 (CEST) #::we gaan afzeggen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:22 (CEST) # Ik stem tegen, zie de argumentatie hierboven [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] 31 mrt 2026 13:06 (CEST) 55ababo3d1rg5hu40enxortm3v9n8op 0 60932 5504172 3397754 2026-03-30T19:51:53Z De Wikischim 13592 5504172 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|en-us-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}} (VS)|eng}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɹɪˈstɹeɪn/|eng}} {{-enverb-|restain}} {{-verb-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|eng}} aan banden leggen, [[bedwingen]], [[beteugelen]], in toom houden #{{ov|eng}} [[beletten]], [[tegenhouden]] #{{ov|eng}} [[insluiten]] #{{ov|eng}} [[opsluiten]] {{-drv-}} *[[restrainable]], [[restraint]] tefxeu9khvg65m1vo75pxsxvxk55zmm 5504173 5504172 2026-03-30T19:52:21Z De Wikischim 13592 De hele tabel was fout door een typo 5504173 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|en-us-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}} (VS)|eng}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɹɪˈstɹeɪn/|eng}} {{-enverb-|restrain}} {{-verb-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|eng}} aan banden leggen, [[bedwingen]], [[beteugelen]], in toom houden #{{ov|eng}} [[beletten]], [[tegenhouden]] #{{ov|eng}} [[insluiten]] #{{ov|eng}} [[opsluiten]] {{-drv-}} *[[restrainable]], [[restraint]] pfi63qfn3974t04wz28d5hlqw30ep5h 0 63485 5504297 5255086 2026-03-31T11:44:14Z Jochenknabben 60937 {{dierkunde|lat}} 5504297 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=ind=}} {{-syll-}} *lu·pa {{-verb-|ind}} '''lupa''' #[[vergeten]] {{=lat=}} [[Afbeelding:Capitoline she-wolf Musei Capitolini MC1181.jpg|thumb|300px|De Etruskische ''Lupa Capitolina'' zoogt Romulus en Remus, die werden toegevoegd, waarschijnlijk door Antonio del Pollaiuolo, aan het eind van de 15^e eeuw.]] {{-etym-}} *Komt van de [[Proto-Indo-Europees|Proto-Indo-Europese]] stam [[*wlqwos|*''wlqwos'']] of [[*lukwos|*''lukwos'']]<ref>[http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=wolf D. Harper, art. wolf, in ''Online Etymology Dictionary'' (etymonline.com), 2001.]</ref>. {{-noun-|lat}} '''{{pn}}''' {{f}} #{{dierkunde|lat}} [[wolvin]] #[[hoer]] {{-rel-}} *[[lupus]] {{-decl-}} {{-lanoun-1|lup}} {{refs}} {{=hsb=}} {{-etym-}} * Afgeleid van het Duitse [[Lupe]] {{-noun-|hsb}} '''lupa''' {{f}} # {{optica|hsb}} [[loep]], [[vergrootglas]] {{=pol=}} {{-pron-}} * {{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/lupa/|pol}} * {{sound}}: {{audio|Pl-lupa.ogg|lupa|pol}} {{-etym-}} * Afgeleid van het Duitse [[Lupe]] {{-noun-|pol}} '''lupa''' {{f}} # {{optica|pol}} [[loep]], [[vergrootglas]] {{-syn-}} * [[szkło powiększające]] {{n}} {{-drv-}} * [[lupka]] {{f}} {{-info-|W=pl:Lupa}} {{=slk=}} {{-etym-}} * Afgeleid van het Duitse [[Lupe]] {{-noun-|slk}} '''lupa''' {{f}} # {{optica|slk}} [[loep]], [[vergrootglas]] {{-syn-}} * [[zväčšovacie sklo]] {{n}} {{-info-|W=sk:Lupa}} {{=spa=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|es-lupa.ogg|lupa|spa}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ xxxx/|spa}}--> {{-syll-}} *lu·pa {{-esnoun-|lupa|lupas}} {{-noun-|spa}} '''lupa''' {{f}} # {{optica|spa}} [[vergrootglas]] {{=tgl=}} {{-noun-|tgl}} '''lupa''' # [[aarde]] # [[grond]] {{=tok=}} [[Bestand:lupa - sitelen pona in Sonja Lang's handwriting.svg|rechts|miniatuur|''{{pn}}'' in [[Sitelen Pona]]]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|Toki Pona - jan Lakuse - lupa.ogg|{{pn}}|tok}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ˈlupa/|tok}} {{-syll-}} *lu·pa {{-etym-}} *van {{jbo}} {{Q|clupa|jbo}} ''"circuit"'' {{-noun-|tok}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[gat]], [[put]] #[[raam]], [[deur]] {{=ces=}} {{-pron-}} * {{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/lʊpa/|ces}} {{-syll-}} * lu·pa {{-etym-}} * Afgeleid van het Duitse [[Lupe]] {{-noun-|ces}} '''lupa''' {{f}} # {{optica|ces}} [[loep]], [[vergrootglas]] {{bijv-2|Při čtení drobného písma na obalech výrobků musím používat '''lupu'''.|Voor het lezen van dekleine letters op verpakkingen moet ik een '''vergrootglas''' gebruiken.}} {{-decl-}} {{-csnounf-a-|lup}} {{-syn-}} * [[zvětšovací sklo]] {{n}} {{-drv-}} * [[lupový]] {{-info-|W=cs:Lupa}} {{refs}} * [https://prirucka.ujc.cas.cz/?slovo=lupa Internetová jazyková příručka - Ústav pro jazyk český AV ČR] (Tsjechisch) * [https://ssjc.ujc.cas.cz/search.php?heslo=lupa&sti=34760 Slovník spisovného jazyka českého - Ústav pro jazyk český AV ČR] (Tsjechisch) * [https://bara.ujc.cas.cz/psjc/search.php?heslo=lupa&zobraz_ps=ps&not_initial=1 Příruční slovník jazyka českého - Ústav pro jazyk český AV ČR] (Tsjechisch) * [http://kott.ujc.cas.cz/index.php?vstup=lupa&hledat=fulltext&heslo=checked&stranaVys=1 Česko-německý slovník Fr. Št. Kotta - Ústav pro jazyk český AV ČR] (Tsjechisch / Duits) rjjnsc868crqzolx9lcdyk1mcwlsldo 0 64430 5504255 3349454 2026-03-31T10:28:03Z Jochenknabben 60937 Fr: + extra def 5504255 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mɔ.nas.tɛʁ/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{Q|{{pn}}s|fra}}|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{bouwkunde|fra}} {{religie|fra}} [[klooster]] [1] #{{religie|fra}} {{metonymisch|fra}} [[klooster]] [2] 5zg87laxygpiizi3edxr52w7jomtvaj 5504256 5504255 2026-03-31T10:32:36Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504256 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mɔ.nas.tɛʁ/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{Q|{{pn}}s|fra}}|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{bouwkunde|fra}} {{religie|fra}} [[klooster]] [1] #{{religie|fra}} {{metonymisch|fra}} [[klooster]] [2]; [[kloostergemeenschap]] kiq1un9877jlpkbb1r5pxez8u7dtix2 0 69615 5504017 1198663 2026-03-30T14:40:33Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504017 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/vɛ̃ mu.sø/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *{{coll|fra}}, letterlijk "schuimende wijn" {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|vins mousseux|les vins mousseux}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{drinken|fra}}, {{oenologie|fra}} [[schuimwijn]] {{-syn-}} *{{Q|mousseux|fra|zn}} nsws1t70fsl686qhvwllj3ps4mannkz 5504018 5504017 2026-03-30T14:41:42Z Jochenknabben 60937 Fr: + ant 5504018 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/vɛ̃ mu.sø/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *{{coll|fra}}, letterlijk "schuimende wijn" {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|vins mousseux|les vins mousseux}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{drinken|fra}}, {{oenologie|fra}} [[schuimwijn]] {{-syn-}} *{{Q|mousseux|fra|zn}} {{-ant-}} *{{Q|vin tranquille|fra}} 69ih9fezoubahkotls41p3t5yl80hrj 0 84294 5504217 5493170 2026-03-31T08:53:20Z Lotje 8037 +afbeelding 5504217 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|thumb|Beide '''klauwen''' van deze tijger zijn links en rechts van de kop goed te zien.]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈklɑuwə(n)}} {{-syll-}} *klau·wen {{-etym-}} *{{+|ww}} afgeleid van {{Q|klauw|nld|zn}} {{suff|nld|-en}} *{{+|zn}} {{Q|klauw|nld|zn}} met de uitgang ''-en'' {{-nlstam-|{{pn}}|klauwde|geklauwd|k=d|scheid=n}} {{-verb-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|nld}} iets wegnemen van iemand en het zich wederrechtelijk toe-eigenen {{bijv-1|Iemand heeft mijn portemonnee '''geklauwd'''.}} {{-syn-}} *[1] [[stelen]], [[jatten]], [[pikken]], [[gappen]] {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|klauw}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{refs}} {{kcg-interwiki}} r3f8ixu77ow4ly9d6bxp7dyl6l9or4f 0 99165 5504145 3395281 2026-03-30T19:19:38Z De Wikischim 13592 5504145 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|en-us-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}} (VS)|eng}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɹɪˈpɛnt/|eng}} {{-enverb-|repent|repents|repented|repented|repenting}} {{-verb-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{intr|eng}} boete doen, berouw hebben #{{ov|eng}} pijn (ook fig.) of verdriet hebben door jl0don9zobavuvhy7gu2f39fegj7e32 0 106244 5504134 4778027 2026-03-30T18:06:37Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504134 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|vrɑxt}} **{{pron-reg|N=a}} {{IPA|/vrɑχt/|nld}} **{{pron-reg|V=a|l=a}} {{IPA|/vrɑxt/|nld}} {{-syll-}} *vracht {{-etym-}} * In de betekenis van ‘lading, last’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in 1286 {{sijs}} {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #de [[lading]] van een vervoermiddel {{-rel-}} *[[cargo]], [[goederen]], [[lading]], [[last]], [[scheepslading]], [[vervoer]] {{-hypo-}} *[[chartervracht]], [[ertsvracht]], [[foutvracht]], [[karrenvracht]], [[luchtvracht]], [[maatvracht]], [[overvracht]], [[retourvracht]], [[scheepsvracht]], [[wagenvracht]], [[zeevracht]] {{-drv-}} {{rel-top}} {{((}} *[[bevrachten]] *[[vervrachten]] *[[vrachtafhandeling]] *[[vrachtauto]] *[[vrachtboot]] *[[vrachtbrief]] *[[vrachtcapaciteit]] *[[vrachtcedel]] *[[vrachtceel]] *[[vrachtcontainer]] *[[vrachtdeur]] *[[vrachtdivisie]] *[[vrachteenheid]] *[[vrachter]] *[[vrachtgeld]] *[[vrachtgoed]] {{==}} *[[vrachtgoederen]] *[[vrachtkist]] *[[vrachtkost]] *[[vrachtkosten]] *[[vrachtlijst]] *[[vrachtloods]] *[[vrachtloon]] *[[vrachtovereenkomst]] *[[vrachtpapier]] *[[vrachtpatser]] *[[vrachtprijs]] *[[vrachtrijder]] *[[vrachtruim]] *[[vrachtruimte]] *[[vrachtschip]] *[[vrachttarief]] *[[vrachttoestel]] {{==}} *[[vrachttram]] *[[vrachttransport]] *[[vrachttrein]] *[[vrachtvaarder]] *[[vrachtvaart]] *[[vrachtvaartuig]] *[[vrachtverdeling]] *[[vrachtverkeer]] *[[vrachtverkoopkantoor]] *[[vrachtvervoer]] *[[vrachtvervoerder]] *[[vrachtvliegtuig]] *[[vrachtvlucht]] *[[vrachtvoerder]] *[[vrachtvrij]] *[[vrachtwagen]] *[[vrachtwagenvignet]] {{))}} {{rel-bottom}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. de lading van een vervoermiddel}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Fracht}} {{f}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|freight}}, , {{trad|en|cargo}}, {{trad|en|charge}}, {{trad|en|load}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|charge}} {{f}}, {{trad|fr|chargement}} {{m}}, {{trad|fr|cargaison}} {{f}} {{trans-mid}} *{{rus}}: {{trad|ru|груз}} {{m}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|carga}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|cargamento}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{crr13|N=100|V=99}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} 5g6cbd08f2zaxpklneeettttxybbi4g 0 108601 5504299 5234215 2026-03-31T11:45:48Z Jochenknabben 60937 Fr: + sound 5504299 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-Le Commissaire-courriel.wav|{{pn}} (Elzas)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ku.ˈʁjɛl/|fra}} {{-syll-}} *cour·riel {{-etym-}} *{{neologisme|fra}} Samentrekking van [[courrier]] en [[électronique]]. Naar het voorbeeld van dit woord (en [[logiciel]]) zijn andere neologismen op {{suff|fra|-iel}} gevormd. {{citeer b |web|titel={{pn}} |url=https://www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais/courriel/19931 |website=larousse.fr |jaar=2009|taal=fr}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{informatica|fra}} [[e-mail]] #{{informatica|fra}} [[e-mail]]dienst {{-rel-}} *{{Q|mail|fra}} *[[logiciel]], [[ludiciel]], [[educiel]] {{refs}} nsgs9trpvpm93ribyluwjrp8agnqvy9 0 119698 5504196 5196713 2026-03-31T06:54:32Z Apisite 41134 + Volapük 5504196 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|yell}} {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|jɛl}} {{-syll-}} *yel {{-verb-|0}} {{1ps|yellen}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{=vol=}} {{-noun-|vol}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[jaar]] 1oi20mxsbc0y58oni4q3otn3xb3gow2 0 152693 5504209 3953102 2026-03-31T07:33:50Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nld: + syn 5504209 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *pre·fe·re·ren {{-etym-}} * Leenwoord uit het Frans, in de betekenis van ‘verkiezen’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in 1518 {{sijs}} *afgeleid van het [[Frans]]e [[préférer]] ({{pref|nld|pre-}} {{suff|nld|-eren}}) <ref>[https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/préférer Wiktionnaire]</ref> {{ebank}} {{-nlstam-|{{pn}}|[[prefereerde]]|[[geprefereerd]]||||scheid=n|k=d}} {{-verb-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|nld}} de voorkeur geven aan {{citeer|boek|jaar=2018|auteur=Pfeiffer, Ilja Leonard|auteurlink=Ilja Leonard Pfeijffer|titel=Grand Hotel Europa|isbn=978-90-295-2622-7|pagina=12 |uitgever=De Arbeiderspers|taal=nl|citaat= `Hij is de maître d'hôtel, maar hij '''prefereert''' de titel van majordomus, omdat het Latijnse woord voor "huis" daarin zit en omdat het volgens hem onze voornaamste taak is ervoor zorg te dragen dat onze gasten vergeten welke plek ze thuis noemden voordat ze hier kwamen.' }} {{-syn-}} *[[verkiezen]] [3] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. de voorkeur geven}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|bevorzugen}}, {{trad|de|vorziehen}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|prefer}} *{{epo}}: {{trad|eo|pliŝati}}, {{trad|eo|preferi}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|préférer}} *{{nor}}: {{trad|no|foretrekke}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|preferir}}, {{trad|es|anteponer}}, {{trad|es|preponer}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{crr13|N=98|V=98}} {{refs}} s6thghk4tziujt01cm8snwhiz82d86g 3 162327 5504001 5504000 2026-03-30T11:59:28Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL */ Reactie 5504001 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) i025s092w1cpnys0up3e45mb716x6u0 5504006 5504001 2026-03-30T12:31:42Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL */ Reactie 5504006 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) llsc3rrf666uvn9bz55eo4ooakz6s1d 5504072 5504006 2026-03-30T16:06:15Z Lotje 8037 /* klauwen */ Reactie 5504072 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) ::Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|"De '''klauwen''' van een tijger"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:06 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) nyhiz7xeb22iiycpwo9k3ucegyhdtyv 5504090 5504072 2026-03-30T16:29:22Z Vuurregenboog 66174 /* Latijn heeft een bron toegevoegd op WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/choopie */ nieuwe subkop 5504090 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) ::Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|"De '''klauwen''' van een tijger"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:06 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) == Latijn heeft een bron toegevoegd op [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/choopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft net een bron toegevoegd op het protologisme choopie zou u even kijken of het een geschikte bron is. Met vriiendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:29 (CEST) 9o0746ibe8gxdldmzyfs4lkg48lzdu6 5504116 5504090 2026-03-30T17:30:20Z MarcoSwart 9001 /* klauwen */ Waarom moet ik opeens aan Rocky III denken? 5504116 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) ::Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|"De '''klauwen''' van een tijger"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:06 (CEST) :::Wat een mooie foto! Voor alle duidelijkheid zou ik van het onderschrift iets maken als "Beide '''klauwen''' van deze tijger zijn links en rechts van de kop goed te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 19:30 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) == Latijn heeft een bron toegevoegd op [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/choopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft net een bron toegevoegd op het protologisme choopie zou u even kijken of het een geschikte bron is. Met vriiendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:29 (CEST) 3ysjr3axji8otymbutkoxcvzjbe6mdg 5504192 5504116 2026-03-31T04:55:15Z Lotje 8037 /* bijenkoningin */ nieuwe subkop 5504192 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) ::Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|"De '''klauwen''' van een tijger"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:06 (CEST) :::Wat een mooie foto! Voor alle duidelijkheid zou ik van het onderschrift iets maken als "Beide '''klauwen''' van deze tijger zijn links en rechts van de kop goed te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 19:30 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) == Latijn heeft een bron toegevoegd op [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/choopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft net een bron toegevoegd op het protologisme choopie zou u even kijken of het een geschikte bron is. Met vriiendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:29 (CEST) == [[bijenkoningin]] == Hallo MarcoSwsart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bienenkoenigin 43a cropped.jpg|"Een '''bijenkoningin''' tussen de werkbijen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 06:55 (CEST) 359s9v51r2n7ieu7fi5lq6j1q1wg8fh 5504193 5504192 2026-03-31T05:11:39Z Lotje 8037 /* klimop */ nieuwe subkop 5504193 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) ::Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|"De '''klauwen''' van een tijger"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:06 (CEST) :::Wat een mooie foto! Voor alle duidelijkheid zou ik van het onderschrift iets maken als "Beide '''klauwen''' van deze tijger zijn links en rechts van de kop goed te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 19:30 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) == Latijn heeft een bron toegevoegd op [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/choopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft net een bron toegevoegd op het protologisme choopie zou u even kijken of het een geschikte bron is. Met vriiendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:29 (CEST) == [[bijenkoningin]] == Hallo MarcoSwsart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bienenkoenigin 43a cropped.jpg|"Een '''bijenkoningin''' tussen de werkbijen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 06:55 (CEST) == [[klimop]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Herbst in Landschlacht TG (2018).jpg|"'''Klimop''' (''hedera helix'') aan een woning in Zwitserland"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:11 (CEST) mhde6jon2aib6s4p9c14m8y7lpk1see 5504194 5504193 2026-03-31T05:24:27Z Lotje 8037 /* nestkast */ nieuwe subkop 5504194 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) ::Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|"De '''klauwen''' van een tijger"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:06 (CEST) :::Wat een mooie foto! Voor alle duidelijkheid zou ik van het onderschrift iets maken als "Beide '''klauwen''' van deze tijger zijn links en rechts van de kop goed te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 19:30 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) == Latijn heeft een bron toegevoegd op [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/choopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft net een bron toegevoegd op het protologisme choopie zou u even kijken of het een geschikte bron is. Met vriiendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:29 (CEST) == [[bijenkoningin]] == Hallo MarcoSwsart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bienenkoenigin 43a cropped.jpg|"Een '''bijenkoningin''' tussen de werkbijen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 06:55 (CEST) == [[klimop]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Herbst in Landschlacht TG (2018).jpg|"'''Klimop''' (''hedera helix'') aan een woning in Zwitserland"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:11 (CEST) == [[nestkast]] == Wat denk je van [[:File:-2021-07-07 Owl Box, 'If Not Now When' community woodland, Suffield.JPG|"Een '''nestkast''' groot genoeg voor een uil"]]? of misschien [[:afbeelding:Bird box - geograph.org.uk - 63405.jpg|''Een '''nestkast''' in Engeland'']]? :Voor het verkleinwoord: [[:afbeelding:Cyanistes caeruleus -Cambridgeshire, England -chick looking out of nestbox-8.jpg|"Een jonge pimpelmees zit op de uitkijk in zijn '''nestkastje''' (Cambridgeshire, Engeland)."]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:24 (CEST) 050czgmiri7r9buv719jp6565bkqltw 5504195 5504194 2026-03-31T06:43:48Z MarcoSwart 9001 /* bijenkoningin */ very buzzy 5504195 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) ::Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|"De '''klauwen''' van een tijger"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:06 (CEST) :::Wat een mooie foto! Voor alle duidelijkheid zou ik van het onderschrift iets maken als "Beide '''klauwen''' van deze tijger zijn links en rechts van de kop goed te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 19:30 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) == Latijn heeft een bron toegevoegd op [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/choopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft net een bron toegevoegd op het protologisme choopie zou u even kijken of het een geschikte bron is. Met vriiendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:29 (CEST) == [[bijenkoningin]] == Hallo MarcoSwsart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bienenkoenigin 43a cropped.jpg|"Een '''bijenkoningin''' tussen de werkbijen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 06:55 (CEST) :Zij lijkt me royaal op haar plaats. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 08:43 (CEST) == [[klimop]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Herbst in Landschlacht TG (2018).jpg|"'''Klimop''' (''hedera helix'') aan een woning in Zwitserland"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:11 (CEST) == [[nestkast]] == Wat denk je van [[:File:-2021-07-07 Owl Box, 'If Not Now When' community woodland, Suffield.JPG|"Een '''nestkast''' groot genoeg voor een uil"]]? of misschien [[:afbeelding:Bird box - geograph.org.uk - 63405.jpg|''Een '''nestkast''' in Engeland'']]? :Voor het verkleinwoord: [[:afbeelding:Cyanistes caeruleus -Cambridgeshire, England -chick looking out of nestbox-8.jpg|"Een jonge pimpelmees zit op de uitkijk in zijn '''nestkastje''' (Cambridgeshire, Engeland)."]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:24 (CEST) iu8qv1gg1sylmdmzs275frxeu7qqi3e 5504198 5504195 2026-03-31T07:12:44Z MarcoSwart 9001 /* klimop */ ook zeer in trek bij de mussennestenbouw 5504198 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) ::Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|"De '''klauwen''' van een tijger"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:06 (CEST) :::Wat een mooie foto! Voor alle duidelijkheid zou ik van het onderschrift iets maken als "Beide '''klauwen''' van deze tijger zijn links en rechts van de kop goed te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 19:30 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) == Latijn heeft een bron toegevoegd op [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/choopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft net een bron toegevoegd op het protologisme choopie zou u even kijken of het een geschikte bron is. Met vriiendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:29 (CEST) == [[bijenkoningin]] == Hallo MarcoSwsart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bienenkoenigin 43a cropped.jpg|"Een '''bijenkoningin''' tussen de werkbijen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 06:55 (CEST) :Zij lijkt me royaal op haar plaats. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 08:43 (CEST) == [[klimop]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Herbst in Landschlacht TG (2018).jpg|"'''Klimop''' (''hedera helix'') aan een woning in Zwitserland"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:11 (CEST) :Bouwkundigen denken er mogelijk anders over, maar ik denk van wel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 09:12 (CEST) == [[nestkast]] == Wat denk je van [[:File:-2021-07-07 Owl Box, 'If Not Now When' community woodland, Suffield.JPG|"Een '''nestkast''' groot genoeg voor een uil"]]? of misschien [[:afbeelding:Bird box - geograph.org.uk - 63405.jpg|''Een '''nestkast''' in Engeland'']]? :Voor het verkleinwoord: [[:afbeelding:Cyanistes caeruleus -Cambridgeshire, England -chick looking out of nestbox-8.jpg|"Een jonge pimpelmees zit op de uitkijk in zijn '''nestkastje''' (Cambridgeshire, Engeland)."]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:24 (CEST) m3bcy1uf75esswp7hmocfmix7w1z7t8 5504199 5504198 2026-03-31T07:19:08Z MarcoSwart 9001 /* nestkast */ bedstee 5504199 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) ::Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|"De '''klauwen''' van een tijger"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:06 (CEST) :::Wat een mooie foto! Voor alle duidelijkheid zou ik van het onderschrift iets maken als "Beide '''klauwen''' van deze tijger zijn links en rechts van de kop goed te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 19:30 (CEST) == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) == Latijn heeft een bron toegevoegd op [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/choopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft net een bron toegevoegd op het protologisme choopie zou u even kijken of het een geschikte bron is. Met vriiendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:29 (CEST) == [[bijenkoningin]] == Hallo MarcoSwsart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bienenkoenigin 43a cropped.jpg|"Een '''bijenkoningin''' tussen de werkbijen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 06:55 (CEST) :Zij lijkt me royaal op haar plaats. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 08:43 (CEST) == [[klimop]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Herbst in Landschlacht TG (2018).jpg|"'''Klimop''' (''hedera helix'') aan een woning in Zwitserland"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:11 (CEST) :Bouwkundigen denken er mogelijk anders over, maar ik denk van wel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 09:12 (CEST) == [[nestkast]] == Wat denk je van [[:File:-2021-07-07 Owl Box, 'If Not Now When' community woodland, Suffield.JPG|"Een '''nestkast''' groot genoeg voor een uil"]]? of misschien [[:afbeelding:Bird box - geograph.org.uk - 63405.jpg|''Een '''nestkast''' in Engeland'']]? :Voor het verkleinwoord: [[:afbeelding:Cyanistes caeruleus -Cambridgeshire, England -chick looking out of nestbox-8.jpg|"Een jonge pimpelmees zit op de uitkijk in zijn '''nestkastje''' (Cambridgeshire, Engeland)."]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:24 (CEST) :Van het eerste paar lijkt de tweede mij het beste. Voor het verkleinwoord zou ik het onderschrift versimpelen tot "Een jonge pimpelmees kijkt uit zijn nestkastje (Cambridgeshire, Engeland). Iemand die baat heeft bij het plaatje zal mogelijk ook niet bekend zijn met de uitdrukking "op de uitkijk zitten" en veronderstelt dan wellicht dat de "uitkijk" een onderdeel van het nestkastje is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 09:19 (CEST) traq1yqc1o2m0eap54zln03w8t4fhjz 5504224 5504199 2026-03-31T08:59:27Z Lotje 8037 /* klauwen */ Daarom misschien... 5504224 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2011-2015|2011-2015]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2016|2016]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2017|2017]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2018|2018]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2019|2019]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2020|2020]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2021|2021]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2022|2022]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2023|2023]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2024|2024]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == [[nonnetje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dnek je van dit [[:afbeelding:Mergellus albellus (male in flight).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' (''mergellus albellus'') in vlucht]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 06:46 (CEST) :Het lijkt me een geschikte afbeelding. Is het je bedoeling om de bestaande afbeelding te verplaatsen naar [[nonnetjes]]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) ::{{done}}, wat dacht voor "[[:afbeelding:Wound-up nun (249142251).jpg|Een '''nonnetje''' als mascotte]]"? of "[[:afbeelding:Brustbild einer Nonne - Unbekannt - 11673 Augustiner M Freiburg.png|Borstbeeld van een '''nonnetje''']]" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:25 (CEST) :::De grondbetekenis van nonnetje is "kleine non", daarnaast heeft een verkleinwoord vaak verschillende overdrachtelijke bijbetekenissen (liefkozend, minachtend, specifiek exemplaar). De typische afbeelding lijkt me die van een duidelijk erg klein uitgevallen vrouwelijke kloosterlinge. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 10:40 (CEST) ::::Ik weet het [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jul 2025 12:44 (CEST) == IPA's (vervolg) == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat je druk bezig bent met de IPA's.<br> Wij zijn even op bezoek bij de familie in Diemen dus heb ik weinig tijd voor het woordenboek.<br> Kun jij nog even kijken naar de uitspraak van [[prima facie]] en [[speedpedelec]]?<br> Ik dacht dat de uitspraak anders was maar ben misschien al te vervreemd van het Nederlands.<br> Als je ook nog zin hebt om te kijken naar de meervouden dat bij [[stuk]] staat.<br><br> Kan ik nu beginnen met wat IPA's over te nemen van de Taalunie?<br> Ik begin dan met een beperkt aantal, zeg 200, en maak een lijst van de overgezette waarden die jij in één oogopslag kunt nakijken.<br> Daarna zien we wel of e.e.a. nog moet worden aangepast.<br> Het lijkt me het beste eerst maar te beginnen met die lemma's die slechts één IPA hebben. Groet uit Diemen, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 08:53 (CEST) :Beide lemma's waar je naar vraagt zijn volgens mij in orde. Bij "prima facie" gaat het om een volledige ontlening uit het Latijn, daardoor is de uitspraak anders dan bij het vernederlandste woord [[facie]], zowel Van Dale en woordenlijst.org geven hier dezelfde uitspraak aan als wij. Bij de "speedpedelec" hebben wij dezelfde uitspraak als Van Dale. Wnu at woordenlijst.org weergeeft, lijkt me een abuis, ik heb het nog nooit zo horen uitspreken. :Bij de IPA's ben ik nu vooral bezig na te gaan of de veranderingen die we aanbrengen ook consequent worden aangehouden in vergelijkbare woordvormen (verbuigingen, afleidingen, samenstellingen), maar dat is vermoedelijk een klus zonder echt einde. :Het lijkt me nu prima om nu onze lemma's aan de hand van een controle op woordenlijst.org te gaan aanvullen. De aanpassingen die ik heb geïnventariseerd kunnen grotendeels het best geautomatiseerd in het hele bestand worden aangebracht: de kans op fouten is zo minder groot dan wanneer ik snel een lijstje naga. Ik weet niet of je dat al hebt uitgevoerd, of dat dat nog moet gebeuren. Als ik kijk naar onze {{WikiW|Standaardweergave uitspraak Nederlands/Vergelijking met de IPA-weergave op woordenlijst.org|inventarisatie}} geldt dat voor de aanpassingen onder 1., 2., 3.1 en 3.2, 4. en 5. Voor 3.3 en 3.4 is het iets ingewikkelder, ik vermoed dat er in combinatie met het trefwoord zelf c.q. de afbreking (zit die ook in jouw bestand?) ook mogelijkheden zijn. Bij heel wat lemma's worden twee IPA's dan vanzelf tot één teruggebracht. :Bij de klemtonen (6.) is er een drietrapsraket: bij de woorden met ''in de uitspraak'' maar één lettergreep moet het klemtoonteken worden verwijderd: dit is goed te automatiseren. Bij woorden met twee lettergrepen in de uitspraak of met maar één lettergreep die geen sjwa is, is er hoe dan ook in de standaarduitspraak alleen maar een hoofdklemtoon: daar hoeft dan niet meer apart naar gekeken te worden. Ook deze groep laat zich geautomatiseerd snel afzonderen. :Het lijkt me wel goed de trefwoorden apart te houden die meer IPA's hebben doordat het heteroniemen zijn, maar dat had je volgens mij al gedaan. :Na deze exercities kan ik de resterende woorden wat sneller nagaan en eventueel ontbrekende nevenklemtonen invoegen. Ik verwacht dat er dan nog hooguit in een paar procent van de gevallen een echte verbetering nodig is, mogelijk dingen die woordenlijst.org zelf ook nog gaat aanpassen. Het lijkt me wel de moeite waard om, als we een goed bijgewerkt bestand hebben óók de flexievormen van werkwoorden, zelfstandige en bijvoeglijke naamwoorden mee te nemen. Met een paar typische uitzonderingen is de IPA daarvan vrij voorspelbaar uit die van het trefwoord af te leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 10:31 (CEST) ::Ik heb maar gewoon de stoute schoenen aangetrokken en van de eerste tweehonderd woorden de IPA overgenomen. ::Op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip52 staat het overzicht van de wijzigingen. ::Ik hoor dan wel wat er beter kan [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 jul 2025 20:20 (CEST) :Ik wilde graag aanhaken op het onderwerp IPA, ik had resentelik — en dan bedoel ik ongeveer 'n week, zeg twee weken geleden — 'n IPA-fonetische beschrijving toegevoegd aan [[opdrachtregel]]. Ik had genoteerd dat de p in dat woord als p wordt uitgesproken, omdat ik dacht dat dat simpeler te lezen zou zijn; ik zie dat iemand — volgens mij jij, MarcoSwart — dat gekorrigieerd had naar /obdrachtregel/. Ik sluit me aan bij deze weergave en zal dit in het vervolg hanteren. :Met vriendelike groet, :Feike [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) ::Het niet weergeven van {{WikiW|Standaardweergave_uitspraak_Nederlands#Achterwaartse_assimilatie|achterwaartse assimilatie}} zou voor moedertaalsprekers zeker eenvoudiger te lezen zijn. Maar WikiWoordenboek wordt ook veel gebruikt door mensen die bezig zijn Nederlands te leren en voor hen kan het nuttig zijn om dit wel te laten zien. Daarom houden we dat voor de standaardweergave aan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=opdracht woordenlijst.org] doen dat trouwens ook. Maar er was op zichzelf dus niets mis met je eerste keus, alleen houden we voor de standaardweergave bewust een andere afspraak aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Check! [[Gebruiker:Xylofoon|Xylofoon]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Xylofoon|overleg]]) 1 okt 2025 12:52 (CEST) == [[Oudkerkslavisch]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:File:Oldchurchslavonic.jpg|"Het onzevader in '''Oudkerkslvaisch'''"]] zinvol zijn? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 16:06 (CEST) :Dat is zeker een aardige illustratie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 jul 2025 22:37 (CEST) == [[groentekraam]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Markt Dordrecht groentekraam 2010.jpg|"Een '''groentekraam''' in Dordrecht"]] geschikt? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:42 (CEST) :Hoewel ik ook het nodige fruit zie, denk ik inderdaad dat dit voor veel Nederlandssprekenden toch typisch een groentekraam is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:54 (CEST) == [[landingsbaan]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, in Belgïe spreekt men in [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/vakbonden-en-werkgevers-vragen-regering-de-wever-versoepeling-landingsbanen/10616618.html dit geval] ook over een "landingsbaan". In Nederland waarschijnlijk niet? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 16:53 (CEST) :Nee, maar het was natuurlijk een welkome uitbreiding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jul 2025 23:32 (CEST) ::Da's inderdaad een mooie uitbreiding :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 05:55 (CEST) == [[wolfsklem]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vind je van [[:File:Wolf in trap, 1909-1918.jpg|"Een wolf zit vast in een '''wolfsklem'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 07:53 (CEST) :Dierenbeularij. Maar het is wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 09:38 (CEST) == [[Roodkapje]] == ...om hierop verder te borduren: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Little Red Riding Hood - J. W. Smith.jpg|"'''Roodkapje''' en de wolf (door]] [[:en:w:Jessie Willcox Smith|Jessie Willcox Smith"]])? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 12:49 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker passend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:18 (CEST) == [[dierenbeul]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:William Hogarth - The First Stage of Cruelty -detail-fighting cats tied by their tails.png|"Ook een kind kan zich gedragen als een '''dierenbeul'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 13:00 (CEST) :Het plaatje is heel sprekend. Voor het onderschrift zou ik dichter bij de afbeelding blijven met iets als: "Een jonge '''dierenbeul''' kwelt twee katten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jul 2025 21:23 (CEST) == [[Duizend-en-een-nacht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] maakte [[:afbeelding:Nl-Duizend-en-een-nacht.ogg|dit]] aan. Waarschijnlijk is dit voor deze [[:nl:w:Duizend-en-een-nacht|Duizend-en-een-nacht]] bedoeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 18:09 (CEST) :Staat op woordenlijst.org, en is daarmee WikiWoordenboekwaardig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 jul 2025 21:07 (CEST) Jammer natuurlijk dat het [[:afbeelding:Duizend-en-Eén Nacht, Objectnr AF C109.jpg|hier]] anders geschreven is? Of toch niet zo'n groot probleem mits aanpassing van de beeschrijving? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:55 (CEST) :De afwijkende schrijfwijze lijkt me nodeloos verwarrend. Ik hoop stilletjes dat er ook passende afbeeldingen zonder tekst zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 08:56 (CEST) ::Zou een beeld als [[:afbeelding:Marie-Éléonore Godefroid - Scheherazade and Shahryar (One Thousand and One Nights).jpg|"''Scheherazade and Shahryar'' door]] {{w|nl|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid|Marie-Éléonore Godefroid}}" een zinvolle toevoeging kunnen zijn gezien ...''waarin de genade van de sjah verkrijgt door hem 1001 nachten achtereen met deze verhalen in spanning te houden''...? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:27 (CEST) :::Deze sfeervolle afbeelding zou prima kunnen met een onderschrift als: "Volgens de raamvertelling van '''Duizend-en-een-nacht''' verkreeg Sjeharazade (midden) de genade van de sjah (rechts) door hem 1001 nachten met deze verhalen te boeien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 11:41 (CEST) == [[gereden]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of de uitdrukking "gereden worden" door bv de overheid een typische Vlaamse uitdrukking is :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 06:43 (CEST) :Dat zou kunnen, want als het niet duidt op verplaatsing met een middel voor transport zou ik niet weten wat ermee bedoeld wordt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 09:09 (CEST) == [[ij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Highway gothic font letter ligature ij.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 15:08 (CEST) :Hij lijkt mij wijs erbij terzij. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jul 2025 20:59 (CEST) == [[digraaf]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, opzoek naar een geschikte afbeelding stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:CHRISTMAS CARD MOVIE POSTER.jpg|''Written today to get through tomorrow'']]. Oh zo toepasselijk in deze wereld waarin we verzeild zijn geraakt. Ik wilde dit met je delen. Grts [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 jul 2025 07:10 (CEST) == [[dinosauriërs]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Dinosauria diversity.png|"Enkele '''dinosauriërs'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Wil je daar een gallery van maken met de huidige afbeelding? Dan zou ik beginnen met het nieuwe plaatje "Enkele afbeeldingen van verschillende '''dinosauriërs'''." gevolgd door het huidige plaatje "Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd." --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:36 (CEST) :Schitterend idee :-) Doe ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 14:27 (CEST) <gallery> Sellosaurus.jpg|Een ''Sellosaurus'' alias (''Plateosaurus gracilis'') Scolosaurus feeding.png|Een ''scolosaurus'' Ostrich (Struthio camelus) male (13994461256).jpg|Een struisvogel (''Struthio camelus'') Barosaurus-sketch2.jpg|Een ''barosaurus'' Allosaurus -.jpg|Een ''allosaurus'' Sinocalliopteryx gigas.jpg|Een ''sinocalliopteryx gigas'' Dinosauria diversity.png|Zes soorten '''dinosauriërs''' gefotografeerd </gallery> == [[struisvogelpolitiek]] == [[:afbeelding:Ostrich sculptures in Leopold Park with a clear view of the European Parliament's Paul-Henri Spaak building.jpg|"Alhoewel de kunstenaar geen specifiek politieke boodschap had met de struisvogels die hun kop in het zand staken, wordt deze installatie door sommigen geïnterpreteerd als zijnde commentaar op de Europese Unie.{{citeer b|web|url=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/the-real-story-behind-the-curious-ostrich-sculptures-outside-european-parliament|titel=The real story behind Parliament's curious ostrich sculptures|auteur=Inbar Preiss|datum=12 april 2022|website=https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/}}]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 13:48 (CEST) <references/> :Een plaatje zou de betekenis van het woord moeten verhelderen. Het wordt wat ingewikkeld als we struisvogelpolitiek illustreren met een plaatje van een kunstwerk dat niet zo bedoeld is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jul 2025 16:11 (CEST) ::Misschien is [[:afbeelding:Struthio camelus - strus (2).JPG|dit plaatje]], mits een geschikte beschrijving met verwijzing naar het feit dat het woord struisvogelpolitiek gelinkt is ''aan de vermeende analogie met het vluchtgedrag van een struisvogel, die volgens het fabeltje de kop in het zand steekt om de vijand niet te zien en in de veronderstelling verkeert dat de vijand dan de struisvogel ook niet kan zien.''. Maar da's natuurlijk véééél te lang om bij de beschrijving van een afbeelding te plaatsen. En eventueel een andere voorbeeldzin,... dat laat ik liever aan jou over. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jul 2025 07:41 (CEST) :::Een (struis)vogel die waakt over haar (?) eieren lijkt me weer iets heel anders dan "struisvogelpolitiek". Omdat het om vermeend gedrag gaat, vermoed ik dat het abstracte begrip zich alleen laat illustreren met een cartoon of spotprent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:58 (CEST) == Diff post == Greetings @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], hope this message finds you well. I sent you an email two days ago about a Diff post. Happy Wikimania! Warm regards, [[Gebruiker:Kambai Akau|Kambai Akau]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kambai Akau|overleg]]) 6 aug 2025 15:18 (CEST) == meervouden en IPA's == Hallo Marco, Ik ben weer terug uit Holanda en verkeer como siempre op het nu warme Tenerife.<br> Meteen maar de eerste vraag:<br> Wat is het meervoud van [[tonneau]]?<br> In het Wikiwoordenboek staat daarvoor tonneau's.<br> Dat lijkt me een apostrof te veel.<br> Iets soortgelijks aangetroffen bij [[skotoe]].<br> Hoe staat het trouwens met de IPA's? Moet ik daarvan nog wat bij bestaande woorden aanbrengen? un saludo, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 00:01 (CEST) :{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}: Bij beide meervouden leidt {{spellingregel|13.B}} inderdaad tot een schrijfwijze zonder apostrof, omdat de slotklank met meer letters wordt geschreven. Bij een enkele klinker zou het direct toevoegen van de -s leiden tot een andere (korte) uitspraak en dat is de reden waarom de apostrof daar wordt gebruikt. :De controle op de IPA's leverde iets meer werk op dan verwacht, deels doordat er na alle systematische afwijkingen toch nog tientallen simpele vergissingen in de weergave blijken te zitten, die je alleen vindt door ze stuk voor stuk te bekijken. Daarnaast is het dagelijks onderhoud op WikiWoordenboek de afgelopen 2 weken iets tijdrovender dan normaal, dankzij nieuwe gebruikers die wat meer aandacht vragen. Ik ben nu met de laatste checks bezig. Wat is voor jou de handigste vorm om de aangepaste lijst terug te krijgen? Het kan als csv, spreadsheet of html-tabel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 aug 2025 09:07 (CEST) ::Als je een bestand hebt met het woord, de IPA en daartussen een scheidingsteken, kan ik ermee aan de slag [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 aug 2025 13:59 (CEST) ::Bedankt voor het bestand dat je per e-mail hebt gestuurd... Ik ga ermee aan de slag.<br> ::(En trouwens degene die het vele werk met de IPA's hebt gedaan ben jij, ik doe alleen maar conversies) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 11 aug 2025 12:00 (CEST) == IPA (final results) == Hallo Marco. Ik heb een batch gestart met de eerste IPA-wijzigingen.<br> Als ik verder geen commentaar krijg, ga ik maar gewoon hiermee verder.<br> Het gaat in totaal om ongeveer 12.000 veranderingen.<br> Als ik er 1000 per dag doe, duurt dat dus zo'n 12 dagen.<br> De volgende 43 items bevatten trouwens de waarde voor IPA van ..<br> Die heb ik dan maar overgeslagen.<br> [[achterstaan]] [[afgaan]] [[afstaan]] [[afzien]] [[berber]] [[beslaan]] [[collo]] [[diepgaan]] [[diss]] [[ingaan]] [[jus]] [[kade]] [[koraal]] [[lebbe]] [[losstaan]] [[luitje]] [[maandstonde]] [[minnetje]] [[motorcross]] [[neergaan]] [[omstaan]] [[onderstaan]] [[opstaan]] [[pol]] [[pr]] [[roe]] [[stilstaan]] [[taf]] [[terneerslaan]] [[tijdreis]] [[tin]] [[toestaan]] [[toezien]] [[tred]] [[vaststaan]] [[verslaan]] [[verzien]] [[vlotje]] [[voorgaan]] [[voortgaan]] [[vrijstaan]] [[wassenaar]] [[welletje]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 aug 2025 10:59 (CEST) :Die had ik al helemaal in het begin gemarkeerd omdat er geen IPA-weergave bij stond. Daarna ben ik glad vergeten dat ze dus ook niet in het uiteindelijke bestand hoorden. Inmiddels heb ik de IPA-weergave direct aan deze 43 trefwoorden toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:08 (CEST) == pleuristrap == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Koopgoot Rotterdam (35878817404).jpg|de '''pleuristrap''']] een gangbaar woord is in Nederland. Ik vind het een megaleuke naam: een ''glijbaan'' voor de hulpdiensten zodat ze zich makkelijker toegang kunnen verschaffen tot de lagergelegen [[:nl:w:Beurstraverse|koopgoot]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 08:21 (CEST) :Het is (net als koopgoot) een Rotterdamse benaming voor een Rotterdams fenomeen. Er zou volgens mij wel iets over kunnen worden vermeld in het aangehaalde artikel op Wikipedia. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 09:03 (CEST) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zeer [[:nl:w:Rotterdams|Rotterdams]] dus. Een vermelding zou natuurlijk zeer interessant zijn, maar gezien mijn niet aanvaardbare ''schrijfstijl'' laat ik dit liever aan derden over. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 aug 2025 15:15 (CEST) == IPA's voltooid == Hallo Marco, Ik heb het aanbrengen van jouw IPA's voltooid.<br> Aangezien ik altijd nog wat andere controlefuncties heb lopen viel me op dat de meervouden van een aantal getallen anders zijn dan ik verwacht had.<br> In onderstaande tabel staan rechts de door mij verwachte waarde en in de middenkolom de waarde van het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat is jouw mening?<br> <table> <tr><td>[[achthonderddrie]] <td>achthonderddries<td> [[achthonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdelf]] <td>achthonderdelfs<td> [[achthonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtien]] <td>achthonderdtiens<td> [[achthonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdtwaalf]] <td>achthonderdtwaalfs<td> [[achthonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvier]] <td>achthonderdviers<td> [[achthonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[achthonderdvijf]] <td>achthonderdvijfs<td> [[achthonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderddrie]] <td>driehonderddries<td> [[driehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdelf]] <td>driehonderdelfs<td> [[driehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtien]] <td>driehonderdtiens<td> [[driehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdtwaalf]] <td>driehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[driehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvier]] <td>driehonderdviers<td> [[driehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[driehonderdvijf]] <td>driehonderdvijfs<td> [[driehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderddrie]] <td>negenhonderddries<td> [[negenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdeen]] <td>negenhonderdeens<td> [[negenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdelf]] <td>negenhonderdelfs<td> [[negenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtien]] <td>negenhonderdtiens<td> [[negenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>negenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[negenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdtwee]] <td>negenhonderdtwees<td> [[negenhonderdtweeën]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvier]] <td>negenhonderdviers<td> [[negenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[negenhonderdvijf]] <td>negenhonderdvijfs<td> [[negenhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderddrie]] <td>tweehonderddries<td> [[tweehonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdelf]] <td>tweehonderdelfs<td> [[tweehonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtien]] <td>tweehonderdtiens<td> [[tweehonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdtwaalf]] <td>tweehonderdtwaalfs<td> [[tweehonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvier]] <td>tweehonderdviers<td> [[tweehonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[tweehonderdvijf]] <td>tweehonderdvijfs<td> [[tweehonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderddrie]] <td>vierhonderddries<td> [[vierhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdelf]] <td>vierhonderdelfs<td> [[vierhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtien]] <td>vierhonderdtiens<td> [[vierhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vierhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vierhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvier]] <td>vierhonderdviers<td> [[vierhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vierhonderdvijf]] <td>vierhonderdvijfs<td> [[vierhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderddrie]] <td>vijfhonderddries<td> [[vijfhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdelf]] <td>vijfhonderdelfs<td> [[vijfhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtien]] <td>vijfhonderdtiens<td> [[vijfhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdtwaalf]] <td>vijfhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[vijfhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvier]] <td>vijfhonderdviers<td> [[vijfhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[vijfhonderdvijf]] <td>vijfhonderdvijfs<td> [[vijfhonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderddrie]] <td>zeshonderddries<td> [[zeshonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdeen]] <td>zeshonderdeens<td> [[zeshonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdelf]] <td>zeshonderdelfs<td> [[zeshonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtien]] <td>zeshonderdtiens<td> [[zeshonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdtwaalf]] <td>zeshonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zeshonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvier]] <td>zeshonderdviers<td> [[zeshonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zeshonderdvijf]] <td>zeshonderdvijfs<td> [[zeshonderdvijven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderddrie]] <td>zevenhonderddries<td> [[zevenhonderddrieën]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdeen]] <td>zevenhonderdeens<td> [[zevenhonderdenen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdelf]] <td>zevenhonderdelfs<td> [[zevenhonderdelven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtien]] <td>zevenhonderdtiens<td> [[zevenhonderdtienen]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdtwaalf]] <td>zevenhonderdtwaalfs<td> [[zevenhonderdtwaalven]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvier]] <td>zevenhonderdviers<td> [[zevenhonderdvieren]] <tr><td>[[zevenhonderdvijf]] <td>zevenhonderdvijfs<td> [[zevenhonderdvijven]] </table> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 10:30 (CEST) :Wat je op woordenlijst.org bij de hoofdtelwoorden ziet staan is geen ''meervoud'', maar een ''verbuiging'' (dat staat er ook bij). Je komt die vorm tegen in uitspraken als "Ze zaten met hun achthonderdrieën vast op de veerboot." Maar van een bepaald onderdeel met serienummer 803 kun je zeggen: "Wees even zuinig met de achthonderddries." Het is dan geen telwoord meer, maar een zelfstandig naamwoord. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 12:22 (CEST) ::Feit is dat het woord [[achthonderdeens]] NIET bij woordenlijst.org voorkomt maar [[achthonderdenen]] WEL, en idd staat achthonderdenen daar niet als meervoud dus ik zal mijn software die de output van woordenlijst.org verwerkt moeten aanpassen. [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 13:35 (CEST) :De woordenlijst heeft niet de pretentie volledig te zijn en het gebruik van hoofdtelwoorden als zelfstandig naamwoord komt vermoedelijk niet zo vaak voor dat het de lijst haalt. Misschien moeten we een sjabloontje maken voor de verbuiging van hoofdtelwoorden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:06 (CEST) == [[wasstraat]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Timelapse-wasstraat van Slingelandtstraat.webm|"Time-lapsefilm van een wasbeurt in de '''wasstraat'''"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 aug 2025 14:16 (CEST) :Lijkt me heel verhelderend. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:27 (CEST) == [[kandelaren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hoort [[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)]] ook op deze pagina? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 14:29 (CEST) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 16:33 (CEST) ::Dankjewel, nu nog een paar leuke plaatjes vinden :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 17:49 (CEST) :::Wat denk je van [[:Afbeelding:Nederlands Openluchtmuseum853.JPG|"'''Kandelaren''' in de kwekerij van het]] {{w|nl|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum|Nederlands Openluchtmuseum}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 18:26 (CEST) ::::Het is een leuk plaatje, maar kandelaren is een werkwoord en het resultaat ervan ziet er toch iets anders uit. De derde referentie onder het Wikipedia-artikel geeft een goede indruk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 20:50 (CEST) :::::Een plaatje vinden waarop iemand werkelijk aan het kandelaren is heb ik nog niet "ontdekt", maar ik ga op zoek. Het plaatje is inderdaad best geschikt voor "[[:nl:w:Kandelaren (snoeitechniek)|Kandelaren]]" maar aangezien mijn ''schrijfstijl'' duidelijk niet gesmaakt wordt door [[Gebruiker:Jeroen N|Jeroen N]] zit ik met een probleem(pje) {{smiley}} of zou je een omschrijving als "Gekandelaarde buxusstruiken in de kwekerij van het [[w:nl:Openluchtmuseum Arnhem|Openluchtmuseum Arnhem]]" een geschikte omschrijving? Ik vraag het liever eerst. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 06:33 (CEST) ::::::[[:Afbeelding:The “Topiarius” (5242682104).jpg|Dit]] tikte ik ondertussen op de kop [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 08:18 (CEST) :::::::De afbeeldingen die je tot nu toe hebt gevonden zijn allemaal voorbeelden van ''vormsnoeien'', waarbij het vaak om struiken gaat, waarvan de takken precies zo worden afgeknipt dat de blaadjes bepaalde vormen opleveren. Bij "kandelaren" gaat het om bomen, waarvan je in eerste instantie alleen een stam met wat zijdelingse stompjes overhoudt. :::::::Vaak verberg je je eigen schrijfstijl achter tekst van anderen. Daarmee geef je jezelf te weinig ruimte om een schrijfstijl te ontwikkelen. Schrijven is voornamelijk een kwestie van je gedachten zo goed mogelijk op papier zetten, het resultaat proberen te lezen door de ogen van anderen en dat proces te blijven herhalen zolang je verbeteringen invallen. In het begin kost dat herschrijven veel tijd, maar na verloop van tijd gaat het wel steeds sneller. Als je er zin in hebt, zouden we het proces eens kunnen doorlopen met de ''pleuristrap''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 12:41 (CEST) ::::::::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, je voorstel aanvaard ik graag. Altijd verheugd iets te kunnen bijleren. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 16:09 (CEST) :::::::::Als ik naar de publicaties kijk, valt me op dat het meest grondige verhaal [https://www.rijnmond.nl/nieuws/1683584/de-echte-reden-achter-die-pleuristrappen-van-de-koopgoot-een-pijnlijk-misverstand-over-het-ontwerp hier] is te vinden. Wat voor mij het beste werkt als ik een stukje schrijf is om me af te vragen: welke vraag/vragen zou een lezer van het [[w:nl:Beurstraverse|Wikipedia-artikel]] beantwoord willen zien. Dit helpt mij altijd om meer focus te krijgen, want ik heb de neiging veel te veel uit te willen wijden. Hoe zouden voor jouw gevoel die vraag/vragen eruit zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 17:34 (CEST) == [[prikbord]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Kerstmis in de kloosterschool van de Benedictijner abdij van Sint Andries) in het Belgische, SFA001002083 01.jpg|"Jongens in religieus gewaad bij een '''prikbord''', tijdens de kerstdagen (1935)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 18:36 (CEST) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, maar ik zou ",tijdens de kerstdagen" weglaten: dat lijkt me voor onze lezers geen informatie die ze verder helpt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2025 19:20 (CEST) == Hulp gevraagd == Ik heb overlegd op pagina [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/klongelong]] 30 aug 2025 20:42 (CEST) :Dat had ik gelezen, maar dit soort onderzoek kost nu eenmaal wat tijd. Ik heb op die pagina gereageerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:49 (CEST) == [[kalebas]] == Hallo MarcoSwart de afbeelding had ik aan [[kalebassen]] toegevoegd. Zou [[:afbeelding:Calabash - 03.jpg|dit]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 17:26 (CEST) :De hand leidt een beetje af van de kalebas zelf. Hebben we geen afbeeldingen met gewoon alleen een kalebas? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 aug 2025 22:54 (CEST) ::[[:afbeelding:2011 - Muttis_Garten (6061704780).jpg|"Een '''kalebas''' in de moestuin]]" (ik meenden met de hand erbij kon de grootte worden ingeschat). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 06:30 (CEST) :::Dat kan wat toevoegen, maar dan zou ik een gallery maken met eerst de foto en dan die met de hand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2025 16:45 (CEST) == ''Christus en de personificatie van de ziel in een voorraadkelder'' == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou het ooit op deze manier omschreven zijn? [[:afbeelding:Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder Jezus en de Ziel in eene voorraadkamer, RP-P-OB-46.156.jpg|''Christus en de gepersonifieerde ziel in een voorraadkelder'']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 05:10 (CEST) :Dat lijkt me een ander manier om hetzelfde te zeggen. Zonder de verdere context is dit een lastig te begrijpen prent. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 09:43 (CEST) == lemmaopmaak == Hallo Marco, Ik ben een beetje de opmaak van de lemma's aan het controleren.<br> Volgens mij is er een artikel wat de gewenste vorm hiervan beschrijft.<br> Weet jij waar dit staat?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 10:36 (CEST) :Het is mooi als er meer structuur in onze opmaak komt: dat is prettig voor onze lezers en het helpt bij het onderhoud. :Toen onze lemma's nog wat kleiner waren, is er niet zo stelselmatig nagedacht over de structuur daarvan. Zo zijn sommige patronen meer in de praktijk ontstaan, met een resultaat dat niet zo praktisch of logisch is wanneer lemma's alsmaar groter worden. Daar komt bij dat we steeds meer lezers hebben die een mobieltje gebruiken, terwijl onze vormgeving sterk geënt is op computerschermen. Sommige inbreuken op de logische structuur zijn ingegeven door de gewenste vormgeving op zulke schermen. Ik vind dat een volstrekt achterhaalde oplossing. :Helaas is er voor zover ik weet geen actuele beschrijving van de gewenste vorm. De beschrijving op {{WikiW|Conventies en afspraken}} is niet aangepast aan een aantal veranderingen die we de afgelopen 7 jaar hebben doorgevoerd. Ook de stramienen voor Nederlandse woorden zijn niet helemaal bij de tijd. :Er is hierbij wel een soort 80/20-regel: als we niet proberen meteen elk mogelijke indelingskwestie op te lossen, zijn heel veel lemma's snel te toetsen op een aantal hoofdpunten. Ik heb een tijd terug enkele tientallen lemma's gemoderniseerd waar de betekenisomschrijving nog op dezelfde regel, direct na het vetgedrukte trefwoord stond. Misschien is het een slimme strategie om de toets in een aantal iteraties geleidelijk te verfijnen. Vermoedelijk komen we dan vanzelf ook een paar interessante problemen op het spoor die verder gaan dan een enkel lemma. Richt je je op alle lemma's of alleen de Nederlandstalige? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 11:12 (CEST) :In eerste instantie kijk ik natuurlijk naar het Nederlands. Waarschijnlijk is dat al zoveel werk dat ik aan de rest niet toekom. We gaan het maar proberen... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 sep 2025 12:34 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het verkleinen van de foto op pagina [[octopuspaal]] == [[glibberen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van een plaatje uit de oude doos. [[:afbeelding:Glijdende jongens op een pad, RP-T-2015-41-1003.jpg|"''Zeven jongens '''glibberen''' en glijden over een glad pad''"]] ({{w|nl|Wybo Meijer|Wybo Meijer}}). [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]] 6 sep 2025 06:45 (CEST) :Een werkwoord als dit gaat over beweging en die laat zich niet zo eenvoudig in een statische afbeelding vangen. Zonder het bijschrift zou je kunnen denken dat de jongelui in verschillende houdingen staan of zitten. Bovendien is "glibberen" net weer iets anders dan "glijden" en dat wordt hier ook niet duidelijk. Ik vermoed trouwens dat het niet zozeer om een pad gaat, maar om een stadsbrug, maar ook dat is niet goed te zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 sep 2025 09:27 (CEST) == [[aquarium]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Okinawa Aquarium.jpg|dit]] geschikt of liever [[:afbeelding:Bassin coraux vivants -DSC 7604 00001.jpg|zoiets]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 sep 2025 12:16 (CEST) :Beide foto's geven de indruk dat een aquarium metersgroot is. Ik zou daarom nog een derde foto zoeken met een aquarium zoals particulieren die thuis hebben en dan de beide andere foto's daar in omgekeerde volgorde aan toevoegen in een gallery: dat geeft een indruk van de mogelijkheden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 sep 2025 20:57 (CEST) ::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Mijn aquarium.jpg|bedoel je 1.]], [[:afbeelding:Akvarium.jpg|2.]], [[:afbeelding:AntiqueFiskeAquarium.jpg|3. dit antiek aquarium van]] [[:en:w:J. W. Fiske & Company|J. W. Fiske & Company]], [[:afbeelding:Freshwater aquarium, Poland.jpg|4.]] of misschien [[:File:Nowruz in Pasargadae 06.jpg|5. deze?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 05:38 (CEST) :::Nummer 4 is wat ik bedoelde. Nummer 3 zou misschien een mooie afsluiting van de gallery zijn. Nummer 5 is geschikt voor [[goudvissenkom]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 08:36 (CEST) == [[blokverzoek]] == Zou je gebruiker ~2025-55975-3 kunnen blokkeren, hij haalt pagina’s leeg en zet vervolgens onzinteksten neer {{afzr|9 sep 2025 19:11|~2025-55279-5|}} :Dit zag eruit als een melige scholier. Die komen meestal niet terug, dus in dat soort gevallen blokkeren we niet meteen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) == [[barokknooppunt]] == Ik heb een pagina met de titel [[barokknooppunt]] aangemaakt, maar ik weet niet of die pagina mag blijven bestaan, stuur iets op mijn overlegpagina of je het hebt laten staan of hebt verwijderd 10 sep 2025 19:21 (CEST) {{afzr| 10 sep 2025 19:21 |~2025-55279-5}} :{{ping|~2025-55279-5}}, dit is een beetje een grensgeval, en die zijn wat tijdrovender. Ik zal reageren, maar dat kan een paar dagen duren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 11:03 (CEST) :Is goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-55279-5|&#126;2025-55279-5]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-55279-5|overleg]]) 11 sep 2025 15:10 (CEST) ::Dacht ik al dat het niet kon blijven bestaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:11 (CEST) == [[escorte]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, op zoek naar een afbeelding van een ere-escorte, stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:KMar motorescorte voor slachtoffers MH17.jpg|deze afbeelding]]. Vind je ze geschikt? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 06:49 (CEST) :De afbeelding leek me wel geschikt, maar onze omschrijving sloot er nog niet helemaal op aan - die heb ik daarom een beetje aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 sep 2025 21:53 (CEST) ::Ik had het plaatje toegevoegd, maar meende dat '''escorte''' meerdere betekenissen had, zoals onder meer [[w:nl:Escortservice|deze]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 07:38 (CEST) :::Zie het kopje ''Verwante begrippen''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 08:32 (CEST) == [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan het "vrij tijd" op vrijetijd zijn? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 sep 2025 13:12 (CEST) :Ik weet niet op ik je vraag goed begrijp. Doel je op de tekst in de sectie "Woordherkomst en -opbouw", of gaat het om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:00 (CEST) ::Om het [[:nl:w:Vrijetijdsbesteding|hier]] nu "vrije tijd" heet. Puzzled [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 12:51 (CEST) :::Het begrip "vrije tijd" is een woordgroep, een zogenaamde [[vaste verbinding]]. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.M}} onder (1) worden de woorden van een woordgroep aan elkaar geschreven als ze onderdeel worden van een samenstelling, zoals vrijetijdsbesteding. Ik heb [[vrijetijdsbesteding]] aangevuld, zodat dit nu wat duidelijker wordt uitgelegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 sep 2025 13:10 (CEST) == hulp gevraagd == zou je de pagina’s [[snertkind]], [[snertkinderen]], [[snertkindjes]] en [[snertkindje]] kunnen verwijderen, want die woorden bestaan helemaal niet 23 sep 19:04 (CEST) {{afzr| 23 sep 2025 19:05| ~2025-67162-8}} :Als je denkt dat een pagina moet worden verwijderd omdat het woord niet bestaat, is de werkwijze dat je die pagina toevoegt aan {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's|de verwijderpagina}}. Meer toelichting is daar te vinden. Het sjabloon {{Tl|weg}} is een onderdeel van die werkwijze, maar is zinloos als je de pagina niet eerst met een duidelijk omschreven reden op de verwijderpagina noemt. Dat is anders bij het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}}, maar dat is alleen van toepassing in zeer specifieke gevallen. Als de discussie op de verwijderpagina tot een afronding is gekomen of het sjabloon {{Tl|nuweg}} niet binnen een etmaal tot actie leidt, kun je mij of een andere moderator daaraan herinneren. Eerder heeft dat niet zoveel zin. :Wanneer je vaker dit soort overleg wil voeren, is het praktisch om een gebruikersnaam te registreren. :Voor "snertkind" heb ik zonder veel moeite vier vindplaatsen aan de pagina kunnen toevoegen en ook van "snertkindje" biedt de Nederlandse literatuur een vindplaats. Er is daarom geen reden om deze pagina's te verwijderen. De betekenis en de grammatica geven geen aanleiding om aan te nemen dat het meervoud niet kan voorkomen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 sep 2025 21:08 (CEST) :dankjewel voor het vinden van vier vindplaatsen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67162-8|&#126;2025-67162-8]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67162-8|overleg]]) 24 sep 2025 17:23 (CEST) == gebruiker: ~2025-26558-41 == zou je die gebruiker permanent kunnen blokkeren want wat die gebruiker heeft gedaan is wel heel erg op pagina [[Overleg:stenen]] :Eerst maar eens zien of een tijdelijke blokkade volstaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:26 (CEST) :Als ik het nog een keer zie zeg ik het wel [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-26341-55|&#126;2025-26341-55]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-26341-55|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 12:46 (CEST) ::Als moderatoren houden we vandalisme dagelijks in de gaten. Dit soort brute acties krijgen we vrij zeker vanzelf in beeld. Maar als je minder opvallende vormen van vandalisme tegenkomt, waarbij een pagina er op het eerste gezicht nog goed uitziet en er na 48 uur nog geen actie tegen is ondernomen, is het zeker zinvol onze aandacht daarop te vestigen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 14:06 (CEST) == voorbeeld in "aanfluiting" == Het is niet de bedoeling dat een woordenboek een middel wordt om je politieke mening te uiten. Ik heb al een ander voorbeeld geplaatst. Mocht je dit onvoldoende vinden, dan stel ik voor dat je een politiek neutraal voorbeeld pakt. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-67799-3|&#126;2025-67799-3]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-67799-3|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 20:51 (CEST) :Om versnippering van de discussie te voorkomen, heb ik op de [[Overleg:aanfluiting|betreffende overlegpagina]] gereageerd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 21:48 (CEST) == [[korting]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:HEMArkt opruiming posters, Winschoten (2019).jpg|'''Korting''' bij]] {{w|nl||HEMA|HEMA}}? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 05:43 (CEST) :Lijkt me in dit geval wel geschikt: natuurlijk is "korting" een abstract begrip dat niet goed in een afbeelding is te vangen, maar je zult dit woord vaker in dit soort aanprijzingen tegenkomen dan in normale volzinnen en daarmee is het wel een goede vindplaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 10:29 (CEST) ::{{done}}<br>Een [[vindplaats]] vinden is een ander paar mouwen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 sep 2025 12:24 (CEST) == [[shannongetal]] en [[wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal]] == Beste MarcoSwart, ik zie dat er een pagina bestaat met shannongetal en met wikiwoordenboek:Protologisme/shannongetal, voor mij en misschien ook voor anderen zou het heel onduidelijk zijn of het woord een protologisme is of niet, zou je even kunnen kijken (op andere sites bijvoorbeeld) of het een protologisme is of niet, want ik weet het zelf ook echt niet, met vriendelijke groet :Ik heb er opnieuw naar gekeken. Een van de vindplaatsen is inmiddels verdwenen, wat niet zo erg is, omdat het een machinevertaling was. Ik heb {{WikiW|Protologisme/shannongetal}} bijgewerkt en de enige vindplaats die géén machinevertaling lijkt veiligheidshalve ook gearchiveerd; dit blijft een gelegenheidsontlening, wat zichtbaar is aan de schrijfwijze en de uitleg. Ik heb voor de tussenliggende jaren geen nieuwe vindplaatsen kunnen ontdekken. Daarom heb ik de pagina uit de hoofdnaamruimte weggehaald. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 13:15 (CEST) :Toen ik op [[shannongetal]] klikte zag ik dat de pagina al 1 keer eerder is verwijderd, maar hartelijk dank voor het verwijderen van die pagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27651-83|&#126;2025-27651-83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27651-83|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 14:29 (CEST) == [[ooievaarsnesten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat vin je van deze [[:File:Hoogspanningsmast TL-ZBM-150-47 - ooievaarsnesten.jpg|"Een hoogspanningsmast met '''ooievaarsnesten''' (Gelderland)]]" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 okt 2025 17:30 (CEST) :Lijkt me zeker geschikt. Je zou de volgorde in het onderschrift kunnen aanpassen in "Meerdere '''ooievaarsnesten''' in een hoogspanningsmast." De nadruk valt dan iets meer op de nesten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2025 13:44 (CEST) == [[schoonschrift]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik mis een beetje het [[:afbeelding:Aanvankelijk spellen.jpg|schoolschrift]] in de lagere klas. Zou het plaatje hier een plaatsje vinden? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 06:54 (CEST) :Wat denk je van "1. Een '''dictee''' in groep 3 van een Nederlandse basisschool." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 14:57 (CEST) ::Schittttterend {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 okt 2025 15:16 (CEST) == schuin gedrukte inhoud == Hallo Marco, Ik zie dat plotseling in de inhoud van de woorden de codes <nowiki><i> en </i></nowiki> voorkomen in plaats van dat ze schuin gedrukt zijn.<br> Wat is er aan de hand? Als je de knop 'Bewerking ter controle bekijken' gaat het wel goed. groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 10:37 (CEST) :Kun je een voorbeeld geven? Ik kan het probleem zelf niet reproduceren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 11:13 (CEST) ::Bij mij gebeurt dit bij elk woord maar als je een voorbeeld wilt [[proscriptie]].<br> ::De eerste regel is <nowiki>1 <i>Nederlands</i></nowiki><br> ::Ik ga het nog even met een andere browser proberen. Bij Firefox hetzelfde ::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) :::Bij mij treedt dit verschijnsel niet op. Nieuwsgierige vraag: hoe gaat het met vetgedrukte woorden? Worden die wel goed weergegeven of krijg je daar <nowiki><b> en </b></nowiki>? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:10 (CEST) :::Ik heb trouwens vanochtend ergens tussen 10:45 en 11:15 wel te maken gehad met een storing waardoor de Wikimediaservers niet bereikbaar waren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 14:19 (CEST) ::::Ik snap er niets van: wat ik bedoel staat meteen onder:<br> ::::Inhoud [verbergen]. Zal ik een foto uploaden? ::::Dingen die bold moeten worden gedisplayed werken goed... ::::Ik ben zo vrij geweest een foto naar je e-mail te sturen ::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 16:24 (CEST) :::::Ah, nu snap ik het. Ik ben overgestapt naar de nieuwe skin Vector 2022 en daarin treedt deze bug niet op. Maar het lijkt me duidelijk een bug in de oude skin, wellicht is er ergens iets op een onhandige manier aangepast. Ik heb er op Phabricator [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T406755 deze bugmelding] van gemaakt. Vermoedelijk zie je het bij ons al snel, omdat al onze kopjes cursief zijn. Hoe snel dit wordt opgepakt kan ik niet goed voorspellen: ik heb één keer meegemaakt dat het binnen een etmaal was opgelost, maar ik ken ook bugs die al jaren open staan en gewoon geen prioriteit krijgen. De prioriteit wordt vermoedelijk hoger als deze fout ook te zien is bij cursieve kopjes op de Engelstalige Wikipedia. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 18:05 (CEST) ::::::Het probleem deed zich in een iets andere vorm ook voor bij andere Wiktionary's en was inderdaad het gevolg van een update in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur. De fout is ondertussen gecorrigeerd. Ik heb nu dus twee keer meegemaakt dat een probleem binnen een etmaal was opgelost. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:00 (CEST) :::::::Ja, het werkt weer prima. :::::::Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 okt 2025 23:54 (CEST) == [[oprichtingsvergadering]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Vereniging voor Pieters- en Academiewijk. Oprichtingvergadering, Objectnr AF B2052.jpg|""Aankondiging van een '''oprichtingsvergadering''' in de Pieterskerk (Leiden)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 okt 2025 15:38 (CEST) :Wat de afbeelding laat zien is niet een vergadering, maar een aanplakbiljet. De tekst op het affiche zou je kunnen beschouwen als een vindplaats, maar die hebben we al en dan met tekst die gewoon de officiële spelling volgt. Het mooiste zou zijn: een foto van een oprichtingsvergadering, met een bord of spandoek waarop dat woord weer voorkomt. Maar veel oprichtingsvergaderingen hebben een informeel karakter, zodat foto's (laat staan spandoeken) ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:16 (CEST) == [[gevangeniscel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een plaatje van [[:afbeelding:ICTY Detention Unit cell.jpg|"Een '''gevangeniscel''' van de UNDU in de]] {{w|nl|United Nations Detention Unit|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden|Penitentiaire Inrichting Haaglanden}}" misschien beter geschikt is voor ''onze'' contreien {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 okt 2025 16:28 (CEST) :Misschien is een gallery die begint met jouw foto (meer van hier en nu) en dan aangevuld met de huidige foto (hoe wordt het gebruikt) de meest geschikte oplossing, die ook de opmaak wat minder verstoort. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 okt 2025 12:21 (CEST) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik wil even zeggen dat ik de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme:pornoroze]] wil verwijderen en [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/pornoroze]] heb toegevoegd omdat er een schuine streep moet komen in plaats van een dubbele punt, verwijder die ene pagina zo snel mogelijk, want er zijn ook hele grote bewerkingsoorlogen geweest door [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]], met vriendelijke groet. En beloof mij alsjeblieft niet te blokkeren. Zou je wel ook heel snel [[Gebruiker:Nvdtn19]] kunnen blokkeren!!!! {{afzr| 15 okt 2025 14:24| ~2025-28143-59}} :Ik heb inderdaad een typefout gemaakt. Het is om meerdere redenen beter om in dit soort gevallen ''geen'' nieuwe pagina aan te maken, maar de pagina te hernoemen. #De nieuwe pagina is een bewerking van de pagina die is verwijderd, maar in de geschiedenis van de nieuwe pagina is daar niets van te zien. Alle bewerkers van de oude pagina hebben er volgens onze licentie echter recht op dat ze als zodanig worden genoemd. #Er is een wereldwijd team van vrijwilligers dat vandalisme bestrijdt op wiki's waar niet op elk moment moderatoren actief zijn. Nvdtn19 is zo'n vrijwilliger en hij ziet in zijn programmatuur dat een niet-geregistreerde bewerker een pagina leeghaalt. Dat is vrijwel altijd een vandaal en daarom reageerde hij alsof je een vandaal was. In dit geval ten onrechte, maar het misverstand is wel begrijpelijk. Ik ga hem daarom niet blokkeren, net zo min als ik reden zie om jou te blokkeren. Mijn verontschuldigingen voor de originele vergissing die nu zoveel nodeloos gedoe heeft opgeleverd. Waarom registreer je je eigenlijk niet met een gebruikersnaam? Dat maakt de kans op dit soort misverstanden kleiner. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 16:11 (CEST) :Ik registreer me niet met een gebruikersnaam, omdat ik geen zin heb om elke keer weer in te moeten loggen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 12:43 (CEST) == [[koffiekrans]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-29410-0011, Kaffeetafel, Jenaer Glas.jpg|Drie dames tijdens een '''koffiekrans''' (1955)]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 16:56 (CEST) :Het lijkt me inderdaad wel passend een begrip uit de oude doos met een foto uit de oude doos te verluchten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 okt 2025 23:45 (CEST) == volgorde aanbrengen afgerond == Hallo Marco, Ik ben erin geslaagd, na het aanbrengen van zo'n 12.000 wijzigingen (merendeels automatisch), om alle items in de Nederlandse lemma's in dezelfde volgorde te zetten.<br><br> De laatste tijd hebben we overigens een zeer ijverige medewerker die mij erg veel werk oplevert.<br> Er wordt in hoog tempo lemma's aangemaakt die feitelijk allemaal overnieuw moeten worden gedaan.<br> Allereerst is in de meeste gevallen de woordafbreking totaal verkeerd maar daar blijft het niet bij.<br> Vaak worden bij voorbeeld ook bijvoeglijk naamwoorden ingevoerd zoals [[overstil]] met alle overtreffende trappen, die echter niet meer bij het hoofdwoord staan.<br> ([[overstilste]] bestaat als lemma maar niet aanwezig bij [[overstil]]) Kan deze persoon niet een beetje worden afgeremd?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 11:11 (CEST) :Dat is een mooi resultaat, om te beginnen natuurlijk voor onze lezers, maar ook omdat het de kans verkleint dat bij het gebruik van een bot vreemde fouten ontstaan. :Mijn contacten met de nieuwe collega zijn na een wat stroef begin geleidelijk verbeterd en in mijn waarneming weet die nu ernstige fouten uit zijn beginperiode te vermijden. Maar ik herken wel dat er ruimte is voor verdere verbetering. Ik zal eens zien of we op het punt van de afbreking en woordgeslacht een volgende stap kunnen zetten. :De toevoeging van het lemma "overstilste" is pas later gedaan door ''Marcel coenders'', dus dat kunnen we in redelijkheid niet aan de nieuwe collega verwijten. Bij veel van dit soort intensieven is het niet vanzelfsprekend dat ze ook weer een overtreffende trap hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 12:15 (CEST) == [[grimeren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat denk je van een combinatie van [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22Grimeer-wedstrijd+in+het+Oranjehuis+aan+de+Molenstraat+1952%22&title=Special%3AMediaSearch&go=Go&type=image deze drie] afbeeldingen? ? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:29 (CEST) :Als we geen video hebben, kan een reeks plaatjes inderdaad een mogelijkheid zijn om een werkwoord in beeld te brengen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:37 (CEST) ::Too bad, [[:afbeelding:Henriëtte Davids schminkt zich als Al Jolson-521791.ogv|die]] hebben we, helaas zonder klank. {{w|nl|Heintje Davids|Heintje Davids}} schminkt zich als {{w|nl|Al Jolson|Al Jolson}} {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 15:48 (CEST) :::Dat is een mooie vondst als het om grimeren gaat. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:04 (CEST) ::::De beschrijving laat ik aan jou over... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 okt 2025 16:10 (CEST) == mijn overlegpagina == Heeft u mijn berichtje op mijn overlegpagina al gezien, kunt u daar ook op reaggeren {{afzr|19 okt 2025 14:01| ~2025-29125-01}} :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 15:18 (CEST) :Ik heb gereageerd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-29125-01|&#126;2025-29125-01]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-29125-01|overleg]]) 19 okt 2025 17:24 (CEST) == enige opmerkingen == Hallo Marco, Bij mijn laatste updates in het Wikiwoordenboek kwam ik nog de volgende zaken tegen:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Vertrek_in_het_Nederlands<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Slapen_in_het_Nederlands<br> Moet dit gehandhaafd blijven en zo ja dan het liefst via de contextlabels?<br> Verder is er een: Sjabloon:Koenen waarvan ik me niet kan voorstellen wat je daar mee zou willen doen.<br> Bij de naam [[Namen]] zag ik als meervoud [[Namenen]] waar ik me ook niet veel bij voor kan stellen.<br> en verder: Moet [[Oreo]] niet gewoon met een kleine letter?<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 16:41 (CEST) :Even van achter naar voren. Vooralsnog is Oreo een eigennaam, ik heb niet de indruk dat het (al) de benaming voor een type chocoladekoekjes (ook van andere merken) is geworden. Bij de meeste plaatsnamen is een meervoudsvorm hoe dan ook niet gangbaar, ik heb er dus maar een streepje van gemaakt; als het bestond, lijkt een meervoud op -s mij waarschijnlijker. Hoewel we wel sjablonen voor veelgebruikte bronnen kennen, kan ik me een leven zonder het sjabloon {{Tl|Koenen}} nog wel voorstellen. Maar dan moeten natuurlijk wel eerst de pagina's waarop het gebruikt wordt, worden aangepast. Dit brengt me vanzelf bij de beide categorieën annex contextlabels. Omdat het zo gemakkelijk is om ze aan te maken, zien we in mijn ogen wel een zekere wildgroei optreden. Ik begrijp dat het voor lezers dit soort navigatie handig kan zijn, maar ik zou voor dit soort lijstjes de voorkeur geven aan opsomlijstjes onder het kopje {{Tl|-rel-}}, zoals bijvoorbeeld {{Tl|nld-rashonden}}. Wanneer zo'n lijstje over een specifiek onderwerp voor minstens drie talen bestaat of in één taal meer dan 100 namen gaat bevatten, kunnen we dan een overgang naar een echt contextlabel maken. Hoe zou jij over zo'n voorstel denken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 okt 2025 20:17 (CEST) ::Tsja, ik woon in Spanje: oreo wordt hier meer beschouwd als een soort koekje.<br> ::Is natuurlijk een merk.<br> ::Wat Koenen betreft: er zijn maar twee woorden die dit sjabloon gebruiken: [[vlegel]] en [[vlegeljaren]].<br> ::Het sjabloon lijkt meer op verkapte reclame (voor een product dat niet meer bestaat!)<br> [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:33 (CET) == [[Latijn]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een afbeelding met een beschrijving in het Latijn en in het Nederlands [[:afbeelding:20220514 591 meise plantentuin.jpg|zoals hier]] zinvol zou zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 17:33 (CEST) :De nogal specifieke en ook wat afwijkende manier waarop Latijn en de nomenclatuur wordt gebruikt is bepaald niet typerend voor de taal van Cicero en Vergilius. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:24 (CEST) ::Ik zie wat je bedoelt. Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Julius Caesar in een raadsvergadering en Cicero schrijvend achteraan, RP-P-1874-11-151-1.jpg|"Houtsnede met tekst in Latijn]] ({{w|nl|Julius Caesar|Julius Caesar}} in een raadsvergadering en een schrijvende {{w|nl|Cicero|Cicero|nl}})" ? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:25 (CEST) == [[huiskamer]] == Only me again... wat denk je van [[:File:Gfp-family-room.jpg|"Een '''woonkamer''' met open haard"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:25 (CEST) :Zou inderdaad geschikt zijn voor [[woonkamer]] en [[huiskamer]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:26 (CEST) == [[serres]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Interieur kas met cactussen - Rijperkerk - 20406092 - RCE.jpg|Het interieur van een '''serre''' met cactussen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 18:35 (CEST) :Kan zowel voor [[plantenkas]] als [[serre]] (1). [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 okt 2025 22:31 (CEST) ::Op [[serre]] zou er dan denk ik ook nog een geschikte afbeelding van het vertrek bij moeten, anders wordt er immers maar één hoofdbetekenis in beeld uitgedrukt? Op [[plantenkas]] kan deze denk ik hoe dan ook wel. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 00:09 (CEST) :::{{Ping|De Wikischim}} dan is ook nog een afbeelding van [[:afbeelding:Palindrom TENET.svg|Een '''palindroom''']] nodig. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 06:34 (CEST) ::::Dat is een [[satorvierkant]]. We geven doorgaans alleen afbeelding bij de betekenis(sen) van een woord; meestal niet bij de categorieën waartoe het behoort. Het bijzondere van een palindroom is dat het per definitie ook een afbeelding van een palindroom is. ::::Het is natuurlijk mooi als er voor alle betekenissen die zich daarvoor lenen ook een afbeelding is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 08:21 (CEST) :::::Moet het in het [[:File:Un claro ejemplo de un palíndromo es la palabra "reconocer" 2013-06-01 19-11.jpg|Nederlands]] of mag het ook "Voorbeeld van een '''palindroom''' in het Spaans"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:21 (CEST) ::::::Om meteen ''en vogue'' te blijven: [[:afbeelding:InGirumImus.jpg|Een '''palindroom''' in het Latijn (de volledige zin luidt "In girum imus nocte ecce et consumimur igni" - Wij draaien rond in de nacht en worden verteerd door vuur)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 09:31 (CEST) :::::::De gebeitelde tekst lijkt me een pentameter, de volledige zin een hexameter. De schrijfwijze "girum" voor "gyrus" suggereert dat deze tekst laat of middeleeuws Latijn is. Het roept ook de vraag op of "palindroom" in het Nederlands niet alleen op woorden, maar ook op langere teksten betrekking kan hebben. Dat vraagt iets meer uitzoekwerk. Maar mijn opmerking doelde eigenlijk op de betekenis "glazen veranda" van serre. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 11:33 (CEST) ::::::::Aha, een neutraal beeld, zonder ''sluikreclame'' voor een of ander merk misschien? "[2] [[:afbeelding:Familie des Kommerzienrats Westphal.JPG|De familie Westphal in hun '''serre''' (door Eduard Gaertner)]]" of maakt [[:afbeelding:Véranda02.jpg|het niet uit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 okt 2025 12:25 (CEST) :::::::::Zijn allebei wel de moeite waard: beeld van binnen en beeld van buiten, beeld van oud en beeld van nieuw. Ik zou zeggen: gallery! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 02:01 (CEST) ::::::::::{{done}} Het finetunen van de omschrijving leg ik in ''your capable hands'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 07:38 (CEST) == [[hazelnoten]] en [[hazelnoot]] [[hazelaars]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Abelas Bastavales Galicia 011.jpg|Hazelnoten in hun bolster]], [[:afbeelding:Abelás en Celanova - Galiza.jpg|Een handvol '''hazelnoten''']] zinvol zijn?<br>Aan [[hazelnoot]] had ik nog graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnuss.jpg|Een gehalveerde '''hazelnoot''']] toegevoegd.<br>Aan [[hazelaars]] had ik graag [[:afbeelding:Haselnussplantage in Unterbach (Owingen) 1.JPG|'''Hazelaars''' in de lente]] toegevoegd. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 18:09 (CEST) :De hazelaars zijn schitterend. Alle andere afbeeldingen lijken me ook mooie aanvullingen. Bij de onderschriften lijkt me "Een mandje" preciezer dan "Een handvol" en "gekraakte" preciezer dan "gehalveerde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 okt 2025 20:42 (CEST) == vraagje == Ik heb even één vraag, weet u of Marcel coenders is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 26 okt 2025 10:51 |~2025-29125-01}} :Hij is nu inderdaad voor zijn doen vrij lang afwezig, maar ik heb geen informatie dat hij zou zijn gestopt. Rond deze tijd van het jaar kan het ook zijn dat iemand griep heeft. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:55 (CET) :Oh, ik heb ook griep gehad, dus het zou wel kunnen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 17:58 (CET) ::Marcel coenders is weer op WikiWoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 27 okt 2025 10:48 (CET) == Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe. == Hallo Marco, Ik heb (voor het eerst) het sjabloon 'citeer' gebruikt voor een Spaans citaat.<br> Bij gebruik hiervan kreeg ik onderstaande kreet:<br> Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.<br> Dat wil ik best wel doen maar hoe dat zou moeten gebeuren staat niet bij het sjabloon 'citeer'.<br> Uiteindelijk vond ik het wel en heb bij twee woorden de vertaling toegevoegd (met de complimmenten van Google vertalen): [[homophilie]] (frans) en [[inductilis]] (latijn).<br> Kun jij hier even naar kijken want dat kan vast wel beter.<br><br> Helaas biedt Google vertalen nog niet de mogelijkheid om Midden-Nederlands om te zetten in ons gebruikte dialect.<br> Er zijn nog wat woorden waar dus 'Vertaling ontbreekt, voeg deze alstublieft toe.' staat.<br> (Je kunt hierachter komen door de kreet bij opzoeken als argument te gebruiken)<br> Dit lijkt mij eenvoudig te voorkomen door die kreet achterwege te laten voor taal=dum.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 11:29 (CET) :De vertaling bij {{Q|homophilie|fra}} lijkt me wat houterig. In de voorgaande zin werd de opmerkelijke Spartaanse praktijk van "natuurlijke bevruchting" beschreven. Daardoor ligt een net wat andere vertaling voor mijn gevoel meer voor de hand. Ik heb mijn probeersel als commentaar in het citaat toegevoegd. Wellicht kan {{ping|Jochenknabben}}, die nu veel aandacht aan ons Franse lemma's geeft, hier meer licht op werpen. :De vertaling van het Latijn lijkt mij ondeugdelijk: wat zijn "inductielen"? Het gaat vermoedelijk gewoon om [[fokzeug]]en. Maar het citaat is middeleeuws Latijn en ook nog eens afgebroken zonder verdere context, ik ga mij niet aan een vertaling wagen. :In het algemeen werken de vertalingen van Google vooral bij eenvoudige teksten en dan tussen veelgebruikte talen, maar bijvoorbeeld vertalingen naar het Nederlands zijn aardig om een indruk te krijgen, maar zeker niet betrouwbaar genoeg voor een woordenboek. :Waarom zouden we voor citaten uit het Middelnederlands niet om een vertaling moeten vragen? Dit is geen dialect, maar gewoon de taal die in de middeleeuwen in de Lage Landen werd gesproken. Die citaten zullen anders voor veel mensen vaak onbegrijpelijk zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 okt 2025 22:51 (CET) == [[scheelhaar]] == Kunt u de pagina scheelhaar even controleren, want ik heb het woord alleen hier gevonden, https://gtb.ivdnt.org/iWDB/search?actie=article&wdb=WNT&id=M062368.re.2&lemmodern=scheelhaar :Oh, maar dat is op zichzelf een heel degelijke bron. Meestal (ook in dit geval) geven ze zelf weer aan waar ze een woord hebben gevonden. Daarbij worden vaak afkortingen gebruikt. In dit geval verwijzen die naar ''Etymologicum Teutonicae linguae: sive dictionarium teutonico-latinum'' {{w|nl|Cornelis Kiliaan|C. Kiliaan}} uit 1599 en het ''Westvlaamsch Idioticon'' van {{w|nl|Leonard Lodewijk De Bo|L. de Bo}} uit 1873. Omdat we nu inderdaad geen recentere vindplaatsen hebben, kunnen we veilig veronderstellen dat het om een verouderd woord gaat. Ik heb het wat lemma aangevuld. Als regel is vermelding in het "WNT" ({{w|nl|Woordenboek der Nederlandsche Taal|"}}) voldoende bewijs om een woord in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen, je moet er alleen wel op letten dat de spelling verouderd kan zijn. Op [https://ivdnt.org/woordenboeken/zoeken-in-woordenboeken/?zoek=pagina deze pagina] kun je gemakkelijk in het WNT zoeken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:06 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Zouden we deze gebruiker moeten blokkeren? , want hij is eerst heel goed bezig geweest, hij of zij heeft het woord [[engelschoon]] en [[voorvinger]] aangemaakt, maar daarna heeft hij of zij de tekst op de twee pagina’s [[drolemoji]] en [[drolemoji’s]] vervangen door poep {{afzr| 28 okt 2025 12:11 | ~2025-30231-85}} :Bij een bewerking onder nummer weet je niet altijd zeker of het wel om dezelfde persoon gaat. Het kan bijvoorbeeld ook gaan om een computer in een computerlokaal in een schoolgebouw die door verschillende leerlingen is gebruikt. Zolang het om incidentele bewerkingen gaat, werkt beoordeling per bewerking beter dan een blokkade. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:21 (CET) :Mogen kinderen wel bijdragen? ik denk het niet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:24 (CET) ::In een ruime opvatting zijn alle mensen kinderen. Maar ik neem aan dat bedoeld is: minderjarigen. Voor zover ze toestemming van hun ouders of verzorgers hebben, mogen minderjarigen gewoon bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:37 (CET) :::Ik vind het geen goed idee, want ik denk dat kinderen alleen de betekenis toevoegen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 12:48 (CET) ::::Er zijn ook genoeg meerderjarigen die dat doen. Het is praktischer om gewoon de bewerkingen zelf te beoordelen. Meestal is het pas zinvol veronderstellingen over capaciteiten en bedoelingen te doen als er wat meer bijdragen van één bewerker zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:12 (CET) :::::Oké [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-30231-85|&#126;2025-30231-85]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-30231-85|overleg]]) 28 okt 2025 13:20 (CET) ::::::Op nablijven heeft hij nu de tekst vervangen door nablijven is kut [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-35994-38|&#126;2025-35994-38]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-35994-38|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 18:03 (CET) :::::::Als ik kijk naar alle bijdragen onder dit nummer, lijkt het mij een openbare computer in een school. Dat betekent dat we vermoedelijk niet met één persoon te maken hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 20:29 (CET) ::::::::ja dat denk ik inderdaad ook, want het lemma snitchen is wel serieus toegevoegd [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) == metroniems == Hallo Marco, Het is me opgevallen dat de Taalunie als meervoud van patroniem:<br> meervoud patroniemen [pa·tro·nie·men] vermeld...<br> echter van metroniem:<br> meervoud metroniems [me·tro·niems]<br> Ik hou het er maar op dat dat ook metroniemen moet zijn.<br> Ik zal het opnemen in het grote bestand 'fouten van de Taalunie' maar weet al dat melden hiervan niets oplevert.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 08:51 (CET) :Alle andere zelfstandige naamwoorden op -niem hebben in de woordenlijst een meervoud op -niemen. En van ''metroniemen'' zijn ook gemakkelijk voorbeelden te vinden, van ''metroniems'' niet. Bij woorden op -niems gaat het om partitieven van bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -niem. Misschien is er daardoor verwarring ontstaan. :Ik heb het punt toch gemeld bij de Taalunie. De vragen belanden eerst bij de Taaladviesdienst en de mensen daar zijn niet ingesteld op het verwerken van correcties. Mijn ervaring is dat een open vraagstelling over een specifiek probleem meestal tot een bruikbaar antwoord leidt, met inbegrip van het waar nodig zorgen voor een correctie. Een groot bestand met een verscheidenheid aan kwesties is een grote klus die op niemands bordje past en daardoor lang kan blijven liggen. :Het bestand dat je me toestuurde (waarvoor dank), bevatte zowel kwesties die aan de hand van de spellingregels toch zijn te verklaren als zaken die vrij duidelijk verschrijvingen lijken en een tussencategorie die meer uitzoekerij vraagt. Die kwesties komen soms ook meerdere keren in het bestand terug en duurt daardoor wel even om er vat op te krijgen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 okt 2025 10:47 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, ik kreeg snel antwoord terug van de Taalunie. Ze gaan het in de eerstvolgende ronde corrigeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :::Bedankt! (kan je de rest van de fouten ook even afhandelen?) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 12:37 (CET) ::::Ik ben ermee bezig, maar dat duurt iets langer dan '''even'''. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 nov 2025 13:54 (CET) :::::Was eigenlijk een grapje maar wel fijn als het gebeurt [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 13:30 (CET) == koningin == Hallo Marco, Kun jij me iets uitleggen over het gebruik van de tussen-e dan wel tussen-en bij gebruik van samenstellingen met [[koningin]]?<br> Met tussen-e hebben we:<br> [[Koninginnedag]]<br> [[koninginnekind]]<br> [[koninginnekruid]]<br> [[koninginnekruidkokermot]]<br> [[koninginnenacht]]<br> daarentegen met tussen-en:<br> [[koninginnengelei]]<br> [[koninginnenhap]]<br> [[koninginnenpage]]<br> [[koninginnenrit]]<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 12:23 (CET) :Het staat beschreven in {{spellingregel|8.E}}. Als het gaat om specifieke verwijzingen naar een uniek vrouwelijk persoon, in dit geval het staatshoofd van Nederland, zoals in [[Koninginnedag]], [[koninginnefeest]] en [[koninginnenacht]], wordt er geen tussen-n gebruikt. Maar dat zijn de uitzonderingen op de regel, in principe hebben deze samenstellingen een tussen-n. In het rijtje moeten [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=koninginnenkruid&os=koninginnekruid koninginnekruid] zeker maar in mijn ogen ook "koninginnekruidkokermot" en "koninginnekind" van een tussen-n worden voorzien. In Van Dale krijgt zelfs de "koninginnenharing" een tussen-n, vermoedelijk omdat het een soortnaam is geworden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 nov 2025 18:01 (CET) :Ik heb het -kruid en de -kruidkokermot inmiddels bijgewerkt, uiteraard blijven de schrijfwijzen zonder tussen-n wel als oude schrijfwijze bestaan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 12:56 (CET) :Na enig puzzelen heb ik ook "koninginne(n)kind" aangepast, want het woord kan op allerlei vorstinnen betrekking hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2025 20:08 (CET) == belgenopmerking == Hallo Marco, Hier: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moeten#Opmerkingen staat een opmerking die ik niet begrijp.<br> Weet jij wat dit moet zijn?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:14 (CET) :Het was een subtiele invoerfout: het sjabloon volgt de conventie om de naam met een koppelteken te besluiten, maar dat was erbij ingeschoten. De omissie is inmiddels hersteld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2025 11:55 (CET) == weegbreeuitbreekkommetje == Hallo Marco, Ik ben momenteel de invoer van paddenstoelen aan het voorbereiden.<br> Dat gaan er minstens 2.000 worden.<br> Er kwam er een tegen die in de Wikipedia [[w:weegbreeuitbreekkommetje|weegbreeuitbreekkommetje]] heet.<br> Ik heb het idee dat er na weegbree een - moet komen.<br> Voordat ik dat in de Wikipedia ga wijzigen graag advies van jou.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 18:13 (CET) :Je hebt gelijk, want e-u levert een klinkerbotsing op, zie bijvoorbeeld [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=nee-uitslag nee-uitslag] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=trofee-uitreiking trofee-uitreiking]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:37 (CET) ::bedankt, ik ga het wijzigen. ::Hoe denk je eigenlijk over [[naaiervaring]] ? (is wel-GB) ::de ie lijkt me daar ook problematisch [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 19:44 (CET) :::Dat lijkt me inderdaad een abuis op woordenlijst.org. Ik heb voor alle zekerheid een vraag bij de Taalunie uitgezet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 nov 2025 20:07 (CET) ::::Opnieuw een snel antwoord gekregen: het zal worden verbeterd in de volgende ronde correcties in januari. Ik heb ons lemma daarom vast aangepast. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 11:29 (CET) == [[pirate]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, {{Ping|Marcel coenders}} zonet zag ik dat er nog geen .ogg file bestaat voor een vrouwelijke [[piraat]]. Ik had daar meer bepaald "[[:afbeelding:Mary Read.jpg|Mary Read alias ''Mark Read'', stond bekend als '''pirate''']]" voor ogen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 18:21 (CET) :Het Nederlandse lemma staat paraat! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 nov 2025 19:34 (CET) == crocusroest == hallo Marco, Alweer een stom probleempje.<br> In de Wikipedia staat een paddenstoel die [[w:Gewone crocusroest|Gewone crocusroest]] heet.<br> Die staat onder dezelfde naam in: https://www.verspreidingsatlas.nl/2022080<br> Nu heet dat plantje waar die roest op voorkomt in Nederland gewoon [[krokus]].<br> Gezien het feit dat de verspreidingsatlas ook met crocus werkt, durf ik in de Wikipedia de naam niet te veranderen.<br> Wél wil ik bij de conversie naar het Wikiwoordenboek de naam veranderen in [[gewone krokusroest]].<br> Wat denk jij hiervan?<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 10:50 (CET) :Het Soortenregister gebruikt ook [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=185422 gewone crocusroest] naast [https://www.nederlandsesoorten.nl/linnaeus_ng/app/views/species/nsr_taxon.php?id=189468 krokusknolaaltje]. De schrijfwijze "crocus" was tot 1996 toegelaten in de officiële spelling, maar het is nooit voorkeursspelling geweest, ook niet voor 1954. Het is wel de schrijfwijze in het Latijn en ik kan me voorstellen dat dat in de nomenclatuur een rol heeft gespeeld. De nomenclatuur is van nature conservatief als het om spelling gaat, omdat de verbinding met oudere bronnen daar een grotere rol speelt dan afstemming met het algemene taalgebruik. Daar komt in dit geval nog bij dat de schimmel in Nederland zeldzaam is, zodat er zelden over geschreven wordt. Maar in [https://gd.eppo.int/taxon/UROMCR dit bestand] wordt al wel "gewone krokusroest" gebruikt. Ik zou die pagina daarom inderdaad aanmaken, met "gewone crocusroest" als oude schrijfwijze. Via de linkjes komt iedereen dan waar hij moet zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 12:43 (CET) == [[stampofoon]] == Hoi MarcoSwart ik heb net een pagina gezien met de titel stampofoon en ik wil zeggen dat ik dat woord alleen op Facebook heb gevonden en ik geloof niet dat dat een goede vindplaats is, want dat iemand heeft die naam gewoon bedacht, dus ik stel voor een verwijderdiscussie. Kunt u verder kijken naar goeie bronnen en als er niet zo veel bronnen zijn kunt u het dan verwijderen of tot en protologisme hernoemen. Met vriendelijke groet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 20:49 (CET) :Ik heb drie onderling onafhankelijke vindplaatsen aan het artikel toegevoegd. Opvallend genoeg komen ze alle drie uit de jaren 1970-1977. Ik vermoed dat het eerder een historische term dan een protologisme is. Er is ook nog een vindplaats uit 1939, maar daar is het een schertsende verwijzing naar een scheepsmotor. :Een verwijderdiscussie kun je in het algemeen gewoon beginnen op de {{WikiW|Verzoeken/Te verwijderen pagina's}}. Het sjabloon dient om lezers op die pagina te wijzen, zodat ze aan de discussie kunnen meedoen. Als je het sjabloon plaatst zonder dat je op de verwijderpagina je overwegingen geeft, werkt het niet goed. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2025 22:01 (CET) ::Thanks, ik had die pagina ook gezien [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-33007-95|&#126;2025-33007-95]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-33007-95|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 07:05 (CET) == toevoegen van 3 extra contextlabels == hallo Marco, Van de 2443 schimmels met een Nederlandse naam zou men nog ondergroepen kunnen onderscheiden:<br> Er zijn 1075 [[zakjeszwammen]] en 1339 [[steeltjeszwammen]] waarbinnen een grote groep van 723 [[plaatjeszwammen]].<br> Door het invoeren van 3 extra contextlabels wordt e.e.a. dus overzichtelijker en wordt voorkomen dat er zulke grote pagina's (zie [[zakjeszwammen]], [[steeltjeszwammen]], [[plaatjeszwammen]]) ontstaan als het geval is indien dit achterwege blijft.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 12:58 (CET) :Na enig onderzoek kom ik tot [[Overleg WikiWoordenboek:Taxonomie#Schimmels|dit voorstel]], waarmee we met 6 nieuwe labels alle schimmels afdekken: met ''brandzwammen'' en ''roestzwammen'' erbij wordt een label voor ''steeltjeszwammen'' overbodig, en met ''schijnschimmels'' en ''wierzwammen'' kunnen we {{Tl|schimmels}} helemaal vervangen. Ik wacht even reacties af voordat ik sjablonen en categorieën ga maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Ik heb [[branden]] en [[roesten]] in de Nederlandse Wikipedia kunnen terugvinden en heb alvast de lemma's in het Wikiwoordenboek uitgebreid. ::Van deze twee groepen is alleen [[roesten]] noemenswaard van omvang. ::Schijnschimmels (Chytridiomycota) en wierzwammen (Zygomycota) leveren helemaal geen Nederlandse items op. ::Het lijkt me daarom beter mijn oorspronkelijke voorstel eventueel uit te breiden met roesten als onderdeel van [[steeltjeszwammen]] [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 11:37 (CET) :::Het ontbreken van artikelen op Wikipedia wil nog niet zeggen dat er geen Nederlandse soortnamen zijn, daarom heb ik ook steeds op het Soortenregister en de Verspreidingsatlas gelet. Het gaat zeker om categorieën met meerdere soorten die een Nederlandse naam hebben. Ik probeer steeds indelingen te maken die in principe sluitend zijn. Dat kan handig zijn als we de nu kennelijk op Wikipedia ontbrekende soortnamen willen toevoegen en ook bij andere talen - deze contextlabels moeten immers vanzelf voor alle talen werken. :::Wat ik hoe dan ook probeer te vermijden is een systeem waarin op sommige soorten twee labels van toepassing kunnen zijn. Mensen die een bepaalde plaatjeszwam het label "steeltjeszwam" geven, doen taxonomisch niets verkeerd - maar de categorieën worden zo praktisch onbruikbaar. We zijn redelijkerwijs niet in staat dit soort vergissingen voor alle talen (!) meteen recht te zetten. Het is duidelijker als er gewoon geen label "steeltjeszwam" bestaat: dan kom je vanzelf bij "plaatjeszwam" uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:14 (CET) ::::Ik kan pas werken als ik bij een categorie (en dus contextlabel) een Latijnse naam heb. ::::De Latijnse naam bij [[steeltjeszwammen]] is Basidiomycota (1341 stuks), bij [[zakjeszwammen]] Ascomycota (1075 stuks) en bij [[plaatjeszwammen]] Agaricales. ::::Wat niet tot de twee grote groepen behoort komt te hangen onder (overige) Fungi (38 stuks). ::::Het verhaal van de plaatjeszwammen kan natuurlijk achterwege blijven maar biedt alleen een verdere verfijning binnen de 1341 stuks steeltjeszwammen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) :::::Sorry, mijn schema was niet duidelijk genoeg. Elk label heeft als tegenhanger in het Latijn de eerste naam onder Wikispecies (dus zonder de +). Die toegevoegde namen zul je niet of weinig tegenkomen, maar als dat toch een keer gebeurt, geeft de indeling zo wel uitsluitsel. Alle Agaricales zijn per definitie onderdeel van de Agaricomycotina. Je eigenlijke probleem bij de namen zit denk ik niet aan de kant van het Latijn, maar die van het Nederlands. Als je het bezwaarlijk vindt om de gevestigde namen "plaatjeszwammen", "roestzwammen" en "brandzwammen" bij het categoriseren een iets ruimere betekenis te geven, kunnen we voor deze labels ook "plaatjeszwamachtigen", "roestzwamachtigen" en "brandzwamachtigen" als vertaling van Agaricomycotina, Pucciniomycotina resp. Ustilaginomycotina. :::::Het bezwaar van een restcategorie als "Fungi" is dat daarmee de verwarring weer kan toeslaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 15:51 (CET) == ~2025-27250-97 == Deze gebruiker heeft op de pagina mop de tekst vervangen door wat is het verschil tussen een komkommer en een kwamkwammer en op de pagina mopshond heeft hij de tekst vervangen door mopshonden zijn supergrappig en ik heb het direct weggehaald toen ik het zag en ik wil ook zeggen dat ik zo klaar ben met die humor op WikiWoordenboek, dit soort grapjes horen ook helemaal niet op WikiWoordenboek, dus ik denk dat een blokkade wel handig is. Met vriendelijke groet {{afzr|13 nov 2025 20:16| ~2025-33371-50}} :Ach, dit soort incidentele grappenmakerij komt vaak van melige scholieren. In dat soort gevallen is weghalen meestal doeltreffender dan blokkeren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:59 (CET) == {{w|nl|Wikipedia:Humor en onzin/Wikipedia Detox Brigade|Wikipedia Detox Brigade}} == Hallo MarcoSwart, de zinsnede ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief groot is...'' kan dit beter met ''...giftigheidsniveau op Wikipedia relatief hoog is...'' ? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 12:32 (CET) :Gedacht vanuit een consistente beeldspraak heb je natuurlijk gelijk. Maar het kan ook grappig bedoeld zijn, gelet op de voorgaande zin "... die als doel heeft de toxische sfeer op Wikipedia te verlagen." waar ik juist eerder voor "... verminderen" zou kiezen, tenzij het mijn doel is de stemming verder te doen dalen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:10 (CET) ::Dan maar liever ongemoeid laten. Men streeft uiteraard een vermindering na {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 nov 2025 13:14 (CET) == Vlaams als Nederlands vermelden == Mag Vlaams als Nederlands worden vermeld? 15 nov 2025 16:10 (CEST) {{afzr|15 nov 2025 16:10| ~2025-33592-71}} :Met het woord [[Vlaams]] kunnen verschillende dingen worden bedoeld. Woorden die echt specifiek Westvlaams zijn, beschrijven we onder het kopje "Westvlaams" (sjabloon: {{Tl|vls}}). Nederlands zoals het in België gangbaar is, beschrijven we gewoon als Nederlands. Onder het kopje "Gangbaarheid" bieden we gegevens aan waaruit de lezer kan afleiden of een woord in Vlaanderen of Nederland in deze tijd meer of minder gebruikt wordt. Bij termen die iets beschrijven dat alleen in België, Nederland of Suriname voorkomt kan dat met ''([[België]])'', ''([[Nederland]])'' respectievelijk ''([[Suriname]])'' worden aangegeven. En als er goede bronnen bij worden gegeven, kan bij specifieke woorden worden vermeld dat ze tot het "Belgisch-Nederlands" behoren. Maar we zijn terughoudend met dit soort etiketten, omdat ze vaak tijdperkgebonden zijn en WikiWoordenboek het Nederlands vanaf de 16e eeuw beschrijft. Ik ben nu zelf bezig met het stelselmatig verwerken van de informatie uit {{WikiW|Project Typisch Vlaams|''Typisch-Vlaams''}}, die door de auteurs aan ons is gedoneerd. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 16:31 (CET) == [[paneren]] == Hallo Marco Swart, wat dacht je van een gallery? Idealiter met een uitgebreide beschrijving zoals bv. [[:afbeelding:Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|"Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''': bloem, losgeklopt ei, paneermeel"]] [[:afbeelding:Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|"Het product wordt eerst door de bloem gehaald, vervolgens door het losgeklopte ei en tenslotte door het paneermeel."]] [[:afbeelding:Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|"Het resultaat"]]<br>Een mooie zin zou imo nog duidelijker zijn. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:06 (CET) :Wat denk je van de volgende reeks: <gallery> Smazeny syr suroviny.jpg|Benodigdheden voor het '''paneren''' van deze [[kaas]] ''(links)'': [[bloem]], losgeklopt [[ei]] en [[paneermeel]] ''(achter)''. Standard Breading Procedure - Chicken Fingers 3 -cropped.jpg|Bij '''paneren''' wordt [[kipfilet]] eerst door de bloem gehaald. Panieren von Seelachsfilets, 2011-(01).jpg|Met met bloem bestreken [[zalmfilet]]s worden '''gepaneerd''' door ze te bestrijken met ei en dan te bestrooien met paneermeel. Panierowanie kotletów mielonych - 2024.04.13.jpg|'''Gepaneerde''' [[koteletten]] voordat ze worden gebakken. Febo kalfsvleeskroket.jpg|Door '''paneren''' krijgt een [[kroket]] haar kenmerkende bruine korstje. </gallery> :--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 nov 2025 18:38 (CET) ::Dit vind ik heel leerzaam. Klein detail, het is enerzijds geen zalm maar [[:nl:w:Koolvis|koolvis]] en anderzijds [[:nl:w:Frikadel|frikadellen]]. Dat wordt dan de ''female touch'' in deze {{smiley}}.<br>Dan had ik nog een vraagje: mag een vegetarisch gerechtje ter vervanging van de snackbarkroket? Een ''bordje gezond(er)'' verdient volgens mij een plaatjes: [[:afbeelding:2025-04-23 Oesterzwamkroketten Arnhem.jpg|"Door '''paneren''' krijgt een kroket haar kenmerkende goudbruine kleur"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 08:42 (CET) :::De culinaire kant vertrouw ik graag aan jou toe. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 09:42 (CET) ::::[[paneren|Voilà]] (smakelijk) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 11:52 (CET) == [[zwammen]] == Inderdaad, [[:afbeelding:A photocollection of some Pleurotus ostreatus (Oyster Mushroom, D= Austernseitling, F= Pleurote en forme d'huître ou P. en coquille, NL= Gewone oesterzwam) white spores and causes white rot, at the trunk of a Beech, in - panoramio.jpg|deze soort zwam ontbreekt hier nog.]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:10 (CET) :Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:2014.10.03.-02-Edertal Kleinern--Gemeiner Riesenschirmling.jpg|"Een grote '''parasolzwam''' ''Macrolepiota procera'' op een open grasland"]] of misschien "in" een open grasland? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:19 (CET) ::Ik zou hem inderdaad "in" het grasland plaatsen. En als je iets minder formeel kijkt, kun je hier ook de [[oesterzwam]] al vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 12:34 (CET) :::Voor de [[oesterzwammen]] misschien [[:afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|"De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg"]] in combinatie met (en dit vind ik een heerlijke oefening in taalkundige hoogstandjes) [[:afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|"In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken"]] (een oesterzwammenboerderij of een oesterzwammenboomgaard of misschien zelfs een oesterzwamboerderij, oesterzwamboomgaard {{smiley}} en als kers op de (oesterzwammen)taart: een [[:afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket]] of deze heerlijke [[:afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|"Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen'''"]] Smaakvol is het in ieder geval... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 nov 2025 13:07 (CET) == Kvdrgeus == Hoi MarcoSwart, weet u of Kvdrgeus is gestopt met WikiWoordenboek, want hij of zij is meestal wel dagelijks aanwezig als u het weet hoor ik het graag. Met vriendelijke groet Laat maar, want ik zie Kvdrgeus weer op WikiWoordenboek {{afzr| 18 nov 2025 09:47| ~2025-34472-56}} :Op WikiWoordenboek komt het wel meer voor dat gebruikers een paar dagen wat anders doen. Het komt maar heel weinig voor dat mensen bewust stoppen met WikiWoordenboek en dat laten weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:12 (CET) :Kunt u het mij wel vertellen als er iemand is gestopt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 13:11 (CET) ::Een bewerker maakt zelf uit of, hoe en aan wie hij laten weten of hij is gestopt. Ik kan daarom op dit punt niets beloven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) :::Kunt u wel zeggen als u stopt met WikiWoordenboek? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:24 (CET) ::::Ik kan me eerlijk gezegd geen voorstelling maken van de omstandigheden waaronder ik zou stoppen, dus ook daarover kan ik niets beloven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:29 (CET) :::::Oké, dan eindig ik het gesprek even voor nu, fijne dag nog [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-34566-44|&#126;2025-34566-44]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-34566-44|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 14:30 (CET) == [[zeepbellen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart wat dacht je van een toevoeging [[:afbeelding:Bhutan, "Prayer Bubbles" - Flickr - babasteve.jpg|"Een Bhutanese monnik blaast '''zeepbellen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 11:21 (CET) :Lijkt me passend. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 nov 2025 12:25 (CET) == [[ouderenzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je dat [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 12.jpg|"'''Ouderenzorg''' in Duitsland"]] voldoende aantoont wat ouderenzorg betekent, of liever [[:afbeelding:Altenpflege 05.jpg|deze]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:18 (CET) == [[oesterzwammen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een paar dagen geleden had ik dit aangekaart, maar het stond fout op je GP. Ik kom er hier op terug: <gallery> afbeelding:20031108 Kessel Paddestoelen op boomstronk 02 (9947295865).jpg|De gewone '''oesterzwam''' (''Pleurotus ostreatus'') op een boomstronk in Kessel, Limburg" afbeelding:Био ферма Балерина - ферма за култивирана гъба Кладница.jpg|In Bulgarije worden '''oesterzwammen''' geteelt op afgezaagde boomstronken afbeelding:2024-11-01 Oesterzwam kroketten.jpg|Een '''oesterzwam'''kroket afbeelding:Pleurotus ostreatus horno oven 2.jpg|Ovenvers gegrilde '''oesterzwammen''' </gallery> [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 18:26 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een fraaie collectie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 21:55 (CET) == [[melken]] == Actueel vandaag in België: [[:afbeelding:De gemolken mandenvlechter QUOD BENE DII VERTANT SPORTAM TEXIM ISTAM (titel op object) Emblemata Saecularia, 1596 (serietitel), RP-P-BI-5213.jpg|De '''gemolken''' mandenvlechter]]. Ware het niet zo ernstig, een mens zou er kunnen om lachen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 nov 2025 07:27 (CET) == Schimmels II == hallo Marco, Ik heb op zeker moment even gekeken wat ik overhield als ik de zakjeszwammen (Ascomycota) en de steeltjeszwammen (Basidiomycota) even buiten beschouwing liet.<br> Het bleek toen dat wat ik overhield voornamelijk fouten in de Wikipedia waren die ik daar inmiddels hersteld heb.<br> Dat was wel weer even wat werk.<br> Ik kom nu op de volgende aantallen: <br> <table> <tr><td>zakjeszwammen<td>Ascomycota<td>1119 stuks <tr><td>steeltjeszwammen<td>Basidiomycota<td>1346 stuks </table> Daarnaast zijn er nog maar 10 andere schimmels: <table> <tr><td>Chytridiomycota<td>2 stuks <tr><td>Mucoromycota<td>6 stuks <tr><td>Zygomycota<td>2 stuks </table> Hierbij worden de onderste twee stammen wel als wierzwammen aangeduid.<br> Als onderverdeling binnen de steeltjeszwammen lijkt me nog steeds de Agaricales een goede keus:<br> <table> <tr><td>plaatjeszwammen<td>Agaricales<td>722 stuks </table> De eukaryoten zal ik in de toekomst nog eens bekijken hoewel ik niet verwacht dat daar veel Nederlandse namen in voorkomen. Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 22 nov 2025 16:55 (CET) :Dat er tussen categorieën soms grote verschillen zijn in de aantallen soorten is onvermijdelijk als we een sluitende indeling met Nederlandse namen willen maken. Dat hebben we eerder ook al gezien. Op zichzelf zijn kleine categorieën in mijn ogen geen probleem, zolang ze in een duidelijke indeling passen. In sommige gevallen zie ik trouwens in het soortenregister of de verspreidingsatlas Nederlandse namen waar Wikipedia kennelijk nog geen artikel over heeft. :Getalsmatig begrijp ik je suggestie voor wat betreft de Agaricales helemaal, maar ik wil graag ook een oplossing hebben waarbij we daarnaast niet ook nog een label "steeltjeszwammen" hebben. Dat klemt temeer omdat de onderverdeling van de "plaatjeszwamachtigen" door lopend onderzoek nog volop in beweging lijkt. Als ik de tekst op de Engelstalige Wikipedia lees, is zelfs de afbakening daarvan nog niet helemaal zeker. Misschien kunnen we het nu beter houden bij ''steeltjeszwammen''; altijd nog aanzienlijk kleiner dan ''bloemplanten'', waar we een vergelijkbaar probleem hebben. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:27 (CET) == [[opzijzetten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een geschikte voorbeeldzin ''in mind''? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 07:23 (CET) :Dit woord heeft meerdere betekenissen, dus dat vroeg ook meerdere voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 10:54 (CET) ::Dankejewl MarcoSwart. "Een stap opzijzetten" staat er niet tussen zie ik, betekent dit dat de schrijfwijze hier anders is? "een stap opzij zetten"? {{smiley}} Dan heb ik hier een [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joris_Hindryckx&diff=70211927&oldid=70002995 doodzonde] begaan vrees ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 13:05 (CET) :::Als overtuigd agnost geloof ik niet zo in doodzondes. Maar ik denk wel dat het "een stap opzij zetten" is. Dat kun je zien bij de ontkenning: bij de stap kan dat alleen met ''geen'' "geen stap opzij zetten" worden, een constructie met "''niet'' opzijzetten" is onmogelijk. Bij de andere voorbeelden kan dat wel. Het gaat in dit geval om de uitdrukking "een stap zetten" met het bijwoord "opzij" als bepaling van richting: dat had ook "vooruit", "achteruit", "naar links" of "naar rechts" kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 19:32 (CET) == [[kassalade]] == Hallo MarcoSwart: een goedmakertje: [[:afbeelding:Tule Lake Relocation Center, Newell, California. Margaret Ito, Cashier. - NARA - 536686.jpg| "Een kassierster opent de '''kassalade''' in het]] {{w|en|Tule Lake War Relocation Center|Tule Lake War Relocation Center}} (1943)" {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 06:02 (CET) == [[voorkruipzorg]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:file:Nl-voorkruipzorg.ogg|dit]] een meerwaarde kunnen betekenen voor het woordenboek? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 07:13 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2025 11:20 (CET) == [[glorie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je iets hebben om deze [[:nl:w:Glorie (optisch fenomeen)|glorie]] toe te voegen, of zou je dat liever ergens anders zien staan? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 13:26 (CET) :{{done}} [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 nov 2025 20:37 (CET) :Dankjewel MarcoSwart, zonet plaatste ik een afbeelding. Als j'em niet geschikt vindt, dan verwijder je maar. Nu nog op zoek naar afbeeldingen voor de andere betekenissen om een gallery aan te maken . cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 06:55 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Saint-Thomas d'Aquin 2.jpg|deze]] of [[:afbeelding:Thomas Aquinas by Fra Bartolommeo.jpg|deze]] "[2] De '''glorie''' om het hoofd van {{w|nl|Thomas van Aquino|Thomas van Aquino}}" ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 07:22 (CET) :::De eerste is het meest sprekend en laat één vorm van de glorie zien, de [[nimbus]]. Daarnaast bestaat ook het [[aureool]], een stralenkrans om het hele lichaam, misschien is daar ook een voorbeeld van te vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 09:36 (CET) ::::Bedoel je [[:bestand:Geertgen tot Sint Jans - The Glorification of the Virgin - Google Art Project.jpg|"Bij ''De verheerlijking van Maria (Geertgen tot Sint Jans)'' is de maagd Maria omgeven door een '''aureool''']]" ter vervanging van [[:afbeelding:Schilderij Christus met aureool - Maastricht - 20145896 - RCE.jpg|de afbeelding die er nu staat]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 nov 2025 14:49 (CET) == [[aanranding]], [[aanranden]], [[aangerand]]? == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Martin van Maele 06.jpg|deze]] afbeelding van de hand van {{w|nl|Martin Van Maele|Martin Van Maele}}. Vind je zoiets geschikt of meen je dat deze [[:afbeelding:Man vergrijpt zich aan de dienstmeid, RP-P-1938-253.jpg|"Een dienstmeid wordt aangerand door de heer des huizes"]] beter geschikt is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 11:35 (CET) :Beide zijn als illustratie geschikt. Het zelfstandig naamwoord "aanranding" is het meest voor de hand liggende lemma. De tweede afbeelding past (ook) goed bij [[een vos verliest wel zijn haren, maar niet zijn streken]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 14:19 (CET) == [[tegelzetters]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df n-22 0000378 Fliesenleger.jpg|"'''Tegelzetters''' aan het werk in Prohlis/Dresden (1979)"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:06 (CET) :Voor het enkelvoud is er dan eventueel: [[:afbeelding:Installing ceramic tiles in the future public bathrooms in the LIRR Concourse. 08-01-2019 (48441517082).jpg|"Een '''tegelzetter''' aan het werk"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 nov 2025 17:08 (CET) ::Lijken me beide precies op hun plaats. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:11 (CET) == uitspraak [[eenenveertig]] etc. == De 'v' in 'eenenveertig' is wel degelijk /v/ (versus /f/ in 'veertig'), zie bv. woordenlijst.org. Ik heb de pagina's [[eenenveertig]] tot [[negenenveertig]] en [[honderdeenenveertig]] tot [[honderdnegenenveertig]] verbeterd, maar nu is er nog [[tweehonderdeenenveertig]] enzovoorts. Heb je graag dat ik die ook manueel verbeter of heb jij hier een snellere methode voor? [[Gebruiker:Exarchus|Exarchus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Exarchus|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) :Bedankt voor het signaleren van dit verbeterpunt. Dit kan met een bot worden aangepast. Hij is al aan de slag. Omdat we in de standaardweergave ook de plaatsassimilatie van neusklanken tonen, wordt n in dit geval ɱ, maar dat gaat in de aanpassing vanzelf mee. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 dec 2025 20:39 (CET) == [[blauwvoet]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Basstölpel Jungvogel, Zoo am Meer Bremerhaven.jpg|"Een jonge '''blauwvoet''' (''Morus bassanus'')"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 07:19 (CET) :Als we bij jan-van-genten uitkomen, vormt dan {{species|Sula_nebouxii_excisa}} niet een nog sprekender voorbeeld? De foto die je voorstelde zou dan passen op [[jan-van-gentje]]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 12:08 (CET) ::Maar natuuuuuurlijk, Deze "[[:File:Sula nebouxii -Santa Cruz, Galapagos Islands, Ecuador-8 (1).jpg|Een '''blauwvoet''' (''Sula nebouxii excisa'') op]] {{w|nl|Santa Cruz (eiland)|Sant Cruz, Galapagos}}" bedoel je waarschijnlijk. {{smiley}} Wist niet dat Albrecht Rodenbach ook vertrouwd was met deze soort {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 dec 2025 14:49 (CET) :::Prima! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 12:59 (CET) == [[waterpomp]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A SINGLE WOMAN. 06.jpg|"Een '''waterpomp''' op]] {{w|nl|Mafia (eiland)Maffia}}", of had je liever iets als [[:afbeelding:"Thirst" (1967). (5859357674).jpg|"Dorst lessen van een '''waterpomp''']]" :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 17:30 (CET) ::Op de eerste krijg je een beter beeld van hoe een waterpomp gebruikt wordt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:46 (CET) == [[pit]] == Only me again, zou [[:afbeelding:Bijenwaskaars.jpg|"De '''pit''' van een bijenwaskaars]]" een begin van een gallery kunnen zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 18:42 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker een pittig begin. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:49 (CET) ::Vind je [[:afbeelding:-44 in the pits (2448556787).jpg|"Het voertuig van]] {{w|nl|David Reutimann|David Reutimann}} in de '''pit''' (2008)" een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:04 (CET) :::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:09 (CET) ::::Wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Prunus persica pit.jpg|1. De gehalveerde '''pit''' van een perzik]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:05 (CET) == Wikiwoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal == De lijst van het gevraagd materiaal staat al echt super vol, dus ik denk dat het tijd wordt om maar even wat aan te maken, kunt u dat doen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 21:37 (CET) :Ik probeer in ieder geval het dagelijks onderhoud te doen. Daar zijn geen zichtbare lijsten van, maar als we die laten lopen, kunnen er op den duur kwalitatieve problemen ontstaan. Helaas lukt het me al nauwelijks om die nog bij te benen. Dan zijn er verschillende wat grotere klussen, die ik nog moet (helpen) afronden en waar ik meestal aan werk als ik wat meer tijd heb. Ik ben zeker niet de enig die gevraagde lemma's kan maken, dus die groeiende klus geef ik op dit moment maar beperkte prioriteit. Als er meer mensen zijn die dat op willen pakken, wil ik ze graag helpen met praktische tips of het oplossen van lastige kwesties, maar ik ben niet in staat de groei van die lijst bij te benen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 22:02 (CET) == [[kersenpitten]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Cherry-pits hg.jpg|'''kersenpitten''' als wintervoeding voor muizen]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:55 (CET) :De foto lijkt me wel geschikt, misschien met een onderschrift als "Deze '''kersenpitten''' vormden de wintervoorraad van muizen.", omdat ze zo op het oog al opgegeten zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 16:03 (CET) == [[letterzetten]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Setting type (43816521194).jpg|Bij het '''letterzetten''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld gelegd]] (thank you for coming... to Wiktionary) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) :Het blijft lastig om een handeling waarbij iets veranderd weer te geven in een foto die juist een statisch beeld geeft. Dit is wel heel geschikt voor "In deze houten '''zethaak''' worden loden letters in spiegelbeeld in de juiste volgorde gelegd." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 20:57 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart. Ik voegde de informatie ondertussen toe aan de afbeelding. Ik meen ook een paar duidelijkere afbeeldingen van het [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter - Type-setter (3280638659).jpg|'''letterzetten''' door een '''letterzetter''']] op de kop getikt te hebben. [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1150, PK-F-K.1149.jpg|(Misshien zijn dit wel '''letterzetters''' tussen 1933 en 1937 in de Drukkerij Mulder in Surhuisterveen)]], [[:afbeelding:Letterzetter of typograaf.jpg|Deze]] is dan weer te ''blurry''.<br><br>[[letterbakje]]: [[:afbeelding:Zonder titel PK-F-K.1146, PK-F-K.1145.jpg|Of dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:32 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Gutenbergs Enkel. Die alten Techniken von Setzen, Drucken, Binden.webm|Deze]] is misschien toch de beste {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 06:39 (CET) :::De laatste is zeker mooi. En op [[letterzetter]] ontbreekt nog een plaatje van het beroep... --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 13:29 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Relief, Benjamin Franklin statue, Old City Hall, Boston - IMG 6653.JPG|Deze]] vind ik heel bijzonder, omdat "Benjamin Franklin, een van de Founding Fathers van de Verenigde Staten werkte ooit als '''letterzetter''' in {{w|nl|Smithfield (Londen)|Smithfield (Londen)}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:16 (CET) == [[pitspoezen]] == Dit zijn [[:afbeelding:Formula One LG Girls - 2009 Turkish Grand Prix.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van]] de {{w|nl|LG Group|LG Group}}", of geef je aan deze [[:afbeelding:SF Donington Liverpool girls.jpg|"De '''pitspoezen''' van Superleague Formula Liverpool FC"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 18:46 (CET) :De tweede passen qua context het beste op het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 21:01 (CET) == [[z's]] == Wat dacht je van [[:File:Custom plate Iceland.jpg|Een nummerplaat met enkel '''z's''']] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 15:24 (CET) :Dat is zeker een bijzonder voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:08 (CET) == [[haaientand]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Carcharodon carcharias caught by fisherman.jpg|"De kop van een haai"]] in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Зуб акулы.jpg|"Close-up van een '''haaientand'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 dec 2025 16:43 (CET) :Ik zou in ieder geval de tweede foto op het lemma zetten. De eerste vind ik eigenlijk vooral "1. Een open gehouden '''haaienbek'''.", maar zou ook als aanvulling "1. In de open gehouden bek is menig '''haaientand''' te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 00:15 (CET) == Blokkeer: ~2025-39488-00 == Cyberpesten in de [WikiWoordenboek:Zandbak]] voor de zoveelste keer. Hij poogt de hele tijd dezelfde tekst te publiceren. Ik denk dat het dezelfde persoon is, want hij poogt al voor de 4e keer dezelfde tekst te publiceren, dus ik denk dat het wel tijd is voor een blokkade. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:16 (CET) :Weer cyberpesten [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:25 (CET) ::Hij/zij heeft zelfs als reden neergezet: Laat dit godverdomme staan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:27 (CET) :::Heb je het al uitgevoerd of nog niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 11 dec 2025 21:33 (CET) == preval-plek == Hallo Marco, Hoe denk je over onderstaande wijzigingen?<br> Zelf ging ik er van uit dat preval aan het eind van een woord zou staan.<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=huiden&diff=5419064&oldid=4944846 groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 07:44 (CET) :Je uitgangspunt is correct. Zoals {{ping|De Wikischim}} in de bewerkingssamenvatting aangeeft was de wijziging gebaseerd op de veronderstelling dat het onderzoek betrekking had op een specifieke woordsoort, maar zo zat de onderzoeksopzet niet in elkaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 dec 2025 10:22 (CET) == [[wadi]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Wadi als gracht (36806801472).jpg|Een '''wadi''' als gracht]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 13:35 (CET) :Dat is een prima voorbeeld bij betekenis 2. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:25 (CET) == [[stortregen]] == Hallo MarccoSwart, {{ping|Marcel coenders}} ik had de afbeelding vervangen door een afbeelding van (naar mijn bescheiden mening) betere kwaliteit, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Torrential rain and hail in a thunderstorm at Barons Hill Avenue - geograph.org.uk - 1041712.jpg|"Een '''stortregen''']] {{w|nl|Linlithgow|Linlithgow}}, Schotland" misschien een betere optie is. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 16 dec 2025 14:24 (CET) :Beide in een gallery zou ook kunnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:27 (CET) == [[bespioneren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Weiditz voyeurism.jpg|"Twee mannen '''bespioneren''' een vrouw"]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 18:12 (CET) :Je zou ook kunnen denken aan "Twee '''voyeurs''' (rechts)." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 dec 2025 19:37 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste MarcoSwart. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:12 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:05 (CET) == [[ISBN]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:File:EAN-13-ISBN-13.svg|'''ISBN''' in tekst en streepjescode]]?<br>Sta mij toe mijn allerbeste eindejaarsfeestwens en een gezond 2026 over te maken. Grts. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 18:36 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een zinvolle toevoeging. De wensen zijn bijgeschreven, de tegenboeking volgt met het nieuwe jaar. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 21:51 (CET) == [[tegenboeking]] --> tegenboeken == Hallo MarcoSwart, werk aan de winkel voor [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 07:33 (CET) :Die had het bestand 10 jaar terug al klaar... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:07 (CET) ::Vlijtige gebruiker, jammer dat hij nooit reageert om mij. Waarschijnlijk houdt hij niet van mijn naam {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:43 (CET) :::Zie,... en daar hebben we nu {{w|en|PEPPOL|Peppol}} voor [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:49 (CET) :::Er is niets mis met je naam, maar ik vermoed dat nu [[/2025#Ik_ben_de_komende_tijd_minder_actief_Marcel_coenders|andere zaken]] meer aandacht vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:29 (CET) ::::Oei, dat spijt me heel erg dit te moeten vernemen. [[:en:w:Pamela Brown (writer)|Pamela Brown]] verwoordde het ooit: ''...met gesloten deuren en gordijnen, een licht tegen de duisternis en omringd door vertrouwde, dierbare dingen kunnen we ons terugtrekken en ons eigen ik weer hervinden.'' Ik wens Marcel coenders veel sterkte en vertrouwen. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 17:25 (CET) == [[accountant]] == [[self-explanatory]]: [[:afbeelding:Cartoon over accountant in Het nieuws van den dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië, 1931.jpg|"Cartoon over de '''accountant''' in]] ''{{w|nl|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië|Het Nieuws van den Dag voor Nederlandsch-Indië}}'', 1931" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 10:34 (CET) :Het is een vermakelijk plaatje, ook wel aardig als verbeelding van de immer gespannen relatie tussen kunstenaars en boekhouders! Voor het lemma lijkt het me iets te ingewikkeld: het is alleen begrijpelijk als je al weet wat een accountant doet en wat het wil zeggen als een pianist een noot mist. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:11 (CET) ::Inderdaad, maar ik vond het zo vermakelijk dat ik dit op deze zonnige Kerstdag met je wilde delen. cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 11:44 (CET) :::Dank voor de nootificatie! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 12:32 (CET) == [[ellebogen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Katrien Houtmeyers - Emy Elleboog 2024 (27).jpg|"Met de '''ellebogen''' rustend op de banken in de]] {{w|nl|Koepelzaal|koepelzaal}} van het {{w|nl|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw|Vlaams Parlementsgebouw}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 dec 2025 18:34 (CET) == tech- == Hallo Marco, Allereerst alvast de beste wensen voor het nieuwe jaar (als wij verder geen contact zouden hebben).<br> Verder: Zou het niet zo langzamerhand zinvol zijn om het voorvoegsel tech- in te voeren.<br> Er zijn tegenwoordig zoveel woorden die met de afkorting tech beginnen:<br> Techmacht, techbazen, techbedrijven etc. un saludo [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 10:55 (CET) :Tegenwoordig wordt "[[tech]]" ook los als zelfstandig naamwoord gebruikt. De woorden die je bedoeld kunnen we gewoon beschrijven als samenstellingen met dat woord. Wintergroeten uit Nederland. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:13 (CET) == Blokkeren voor Spam == Hallo MarcoSwart ik wil iets vragen wordt je bij spam altijd direct voorgoed geblokkeerd of soms ook niet? :Bij nieuwe bewerkers kiezen we in beginsel voor overleg om uit te leggen wat de afspraken hier zijn. Maar van sommige accounts is duidelijk dat die automatisch zijn aangemaakt om spam te plaatsen. Dat soort accounts wordt inderdaad meteen geblokkeerd, want er zit geen persoon achter waarmee je zinvol kan overleggen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 dec 2025 13:38 (CET) == [[fraseologie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, had je daar misschien een zin voor in je achterhoofd? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) :Omdat het woord twee betekenissen heeft, heb ik ook maar twee zinnen gezocht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 17:54 (CET) == [[kerstboomengel]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Ozdoby choinkowe - (2023.01.11.).jpg|"Een ''Poolse'' '''kerstboomengel'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:30 (CET) :Lijk me prima; ik zie niet direct een regen om "Poolse" cursief te zetten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 21:35 (CET) == [[schorremorrie]] en [[uitschot]] == Only me again, zou je [https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taalcaf%C3%A9#%22tuig%22 deze] onder dezelfde noemer plaatsen? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 dec 2025 18:45 (CET) == [[hondenpenning]] versus [[hondenwerk|hondepenning]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:File:Aankondigingsaffiche voor hondepenningen in Amsterdam, Bestanddeelnr 934-1638.jpg|deze]] afbeelding en ik vroeg me af of de spelling ooit ''hondepenning'' was :-) Misschien zou een rename van de file (mits enige uitleg) zinvol zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 06:47 (CET) :De officiële spelling is sinds 1996 "hondenpenning", maar toen de foto werd genomen was het nog "[[hondepenning]]". Je zou de afbeelding als een soort vindplaats aan dat artikel kunnen toevoegen. Ik weet onvoldoende van de regels voor naamgeving van bestanden op Commons om uit te maken of dit tot een naamswijziging moet leiden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 09:55 (CET) :Dankjewel {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2025 11:34 (CET) == [[steken]] == ''Bonne année'' MarcoSwart, ik mis het meervoud van [4] [[steek]]. Kan je iets uit je spreekwoordelijke mouw toveren? Ik had daarbij reeds [[:afbeelding:Pioneer Village 9093.jpg|"'''Steken''' waren populair tijdens en Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog (Re-enactment in]] {{w|nl|Saukville, Wisconsin|Saukville, Wisconsin}})" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :De [[steken#Zelfstandig naamwoord|steken]] staan wel op de pagina, maar bij de meervouden herhalen we nu eenmaal niet de verschillende betekenissen. Is dit niet een mooie afbeelding voor "Een kanon op een '''affuit''' bij een [[re-enactment]] van de {{w|nl|Amerikaanse Onafhankelijkheidsoorlog|"}}? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 22:59 (CET) == [[oester]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, sta mij toe u op deze eerste dag van het jaar [[:afbeelding:Sydney rock oyster on half shell with two empty shells.jpg|"Een gesloten en een geopende ''oester'']]" aan te bieden. Voor de [[oesters]] had ik een [[:afbeelding:Ostión Magallana angulata.jpg|"Een bord met eetklare '''oesters''']]" klaargezet. Smakelijk! [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 13:51 (CET) :Voor de liefhebbers lijkt me dat een smakelijke start. In het laatste geval gaat het specifiek om Portugese oesters, dus misschien is dat wel een zinvolle toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:04 (CET) == [[rotje]] == Hallo MArcoSwart, het is jammergenoeg weer zover: "[[:afbeelding:Firecracker exploded in hand (Chaharshanbeh Suri).jpg|Handletsel opgelopen door een ontploft rotje]]". Volgens mij kan het beeld niet akelig genoeg zijn voor de wake-up call. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 18:37 (CET) :Het rotje zelf is op de afbeelding niet meer te zien. Deze foto lijkt me een treffend voorbeeld als "Dit '''vuurwerkletsel''' werd veroorzaakt door een [[rotje]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 jan 2026 23:30 (CET) == Nieuwjaarswensen == Hi Marco, dank je wel voor je nieuwjaarswensen via e-mail! Ik had graag ook zelf alle andere vrijwilligers bedankt voor hun constructieve bijdragen. Het valt mij op dat WikiWoordenboek een "zachtere" omgeving is dan Wikipedia? --[[User:Geertivp|Geertivp]] 2 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) :Ja, dat was mijn gevoel eigenlijk al toen ik hier begon en ik heb begrepen dat het ook wel wat naar voren komt in de enquêtes onder Wikipediabewerkers. Ik zie die werksfeer als iets om zuinig op te zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 14:02 (CET) == [[jottem]] versus [[jottum]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er op WikiWoordenboek jottem en jottum staan, maar jottem staat wel in de woordenlijst Nederlandse taal, maar jottum niet dus ik weet niet of beide spellingen correct zijn jottem is wel correct dat weet ik zeker, maar jottum weet ik niet zeker dus kunt u even kijken of beide spellingen correct zijn? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 17:58 (CET) :De oorspronkelijke vorm is ''jottum'', maar ''jottem'' is tegenwoordig meer gangbaar. Strikt genomen is er ook een (klein) verschil in uitspraak. Ik heb mijn bevindingen aan de beide lemma's toegevoegd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 jan 2026 22:30 (CET) == [[diploma]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, is [[:afbeelding:Autismediplomavoorbeeld.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld voor [1]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 jan 2026 17:38 (CET) :Het kan, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als we een echt Nederlandstalig diploma konden laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 14:25 (CET) ::Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B voorkant.jpg|"Voorkant van '''Diploma''' van het examen]] {{w|nl|Meer uitgebreid lager onderwijs|MULO}}" in combinatie met [[:afbeelding:Diploma Mulo-B achterkant handelskennis (middenstands diploma).jpg]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) :::Dat is een heel mooi paar. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 jan 2026 17:31 (CET) == [[ier]] == Hoi MarcoSwart zou u de bewerking van Iahmadraza op de pagina ier onzichtbaar kunnen maken, want ik heb van u gezien dat het een spamlink is. Groetjes. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 08:26 (CET) :Een spamlink wordt in de regel teruggedraaid, zoals hier ook is gebeurd. Waarom zou in dit geval een verdergaande stap nodig zijn? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Om te voorkomen dat iemand erop klikt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :::Daarvoor moet iemand dan eerst de paginageschiedenis doornemen. Die drempel lijkt me voldoende zolang het niet om uiterst kwalijke links gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) == [[spookregenboog]] == Hallo MarcoSwart kunt u nog even verder zoeken naar vindplaatsen voor spookregenboog, want ik heb het alleen hier gevonden en nergens anders https://indeksonline.net/nl/ylberi-fantazme-fenomeni-i-cuditshem-ne-qiellin-anglez/ [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 14:31 (CET) :Ik kan het alleen terugvinden als machinevertaling van "ghost rainbow" in het Engels. Ook de genoemde link lijkt me een machinevertaling, wellicht uit het Albanees, want zelfs de Engelse tekst klinkt onnatuurlijk. Ik vermoed dat alleen "[[mistboog]]" gangbaar Nederlands is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Nee liever niet verwijderen, maar hernoemen tot een protologisme is denk ik beter[[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:05 (CET) :::Ik heb er wel het sjabloon weg bij neergezet [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 5 jan 2026 16:40 (CET) == [[wolvenkuil]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Fotothek df tg 0007825 Jagdwesen ^ Jagd ^ Raubtier ^ Falle.jpg|"Voorstelling van een '''wolvenkuil''']] ({{w|de|Georgica curiosa|"}}"? cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 06:12 (CET) :Zou goed passen bij betekenis 1. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[reuzin]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Reuzinnen, lange mensen, SFA001011340.jpg|Lange Kaatje van Dijk, 21 jaar uit Roosendaal, 2.31 meter lang, poseert naast een dame met normaal postuur, Nederland, 1925]] De beschrijving zou ik aan jou overlaten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 17:37 (CET) :Het kan, maar ik zou dan een onderschrift kiezen als "2. Lange Kaatje van Dijk (rechts) was een '''reuzin''' met een lengte van 2,31 m." Statistisch gezien volgt de lengte van mensen een [[normale verdeling]] en is daarmee ''elke'' lengte "normaal" zolang er geen sprake is van een groeistoornis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 21:25 (CET) == [[boerenkar]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Prov. Kampioenschappen 1975 Ede.jpg|dit]] als boerenkar omschreven kan worden. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 18:38 (CET) :Het lijkt me typisch "2. Een '''jurywagen''' bij een wielerwedstrijd in 1975." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jan 2026 20:51 (CET) == [[roede]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, maakt [[:File:A Weather Forecast – 'Some Showers' by Dudley Hardy (1867–1922).png|zoiets]] volgens jou duidelijk waarvoor een roede werd gebruikt? Of hou je het meer op [[:afbeelding:Spotprent op de ministeriële verantwoordelijkheid, 1828-1829 Responsabilité Ministérielle (titel op object), RP-P-OB-87.520.jpg|Een priester slaat met een '''roede''' een jongetje op zijn blote billen]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 06:29 (CET) :Als het om het verhelderen van de betekenissen gaat, zijn beide plaatjes toch wat verwarrend. De eerste toont eerder een oneigenlijke gebruikte aanwijsstok dan een typische roede en veronderstelt veel kennis aanwezig om het te begrijpen. De tweede is een spotprent met een hoop context die weer afleidt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de roede Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin (serietitel) Het nieuw geopend Italiaans Toneel (serietitel), RP-P-1942-362.jpg|"Arlequin als opvoeder van de kleine Arlequin geeft zijn kind een pak slaag met de '''roede'''"]]. Beter zo? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 13:22 (CET) == [[hangoortafel]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Oval table with falling leaves MET DP206024.jpg|"Een '''hangoortafel''' met een neergeklapt blad"]] een geschikt voorbeeld? Is dit nu een ovale tafel of een rechthoekige tafel (riddle) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 07:09 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een uitstekend voorbeeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 11:56 (CET) == {{w|nl|Erwin Schrödinger|Erwin Schrödinger}} == Begrijp je die zin? ...''had hij elk één kind van twee studentes''... ikke niet. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:04 (CET) :Begrijpen doe ik het wel, hoewel ik zelf zou kiezen voor ''...had hij van elk van twee studentes een kind...'' of ''...had hij bij twee studentes telkens één kind...'' als dat laatste getal belangrijk is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:51 (CET) ::Ik leg het voor aan het ''comité der wijzen'' {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::Ik had er ''...had hij bij twee studentes een kind verwekt...'' van gemaakt, maar da's wat stijfjes zeker? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 15:04 (CET) :::Nee, het toevoegen van verwekken is zelfs iets beeldender. Maar de oorspronkelijke tekst probeerde nadrukkelijk aan te geven dat het om tweemaal één kind gaat. Bij de toenmalige stand van de techniek mag je dat ook bij jouw formulering veronderstellen, maar het wordt dan een minder letterlijke vertaling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 jan 2026 16:14 (CET) == ~2026-14769-0 == Moeten we hem blokkeren, want ik heb als reden gezien vulgair geklieder. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) :We weten niet wie er achter dit nummer schuilgaat, maar het maakte op mij een nogal puberale indruk. Eerst maar eens zien of de waarschuwing het gewenste effect heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 jan 2026 08:40 (CET) == Pagina’s hernoemen == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe kan ik pagina’s hernoemen, want ik weet dat niet? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 15:27 (CET) :Dat komt doordat je geen geregistreerde gebruiker bent. De programmatuur zit zo in elkaar dat als je een aantal dagen (ik meen: 4) als aangemelde gebruiker actief bent, je vanzelf de optie krijgt om pagina's te hernoemen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:14 (CET) ::Kan je door auteursrechtenschending geblokkeerd worden? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 08:09 (CET) :::Op WikiWoordenboek wordt er zo zelden geblokkeerd dat er bijna geen vaste regels voor bestaan. We kijken gewoon wat in een bepaalde situatie het beste gaat werken voor het woordenboek. Het zal daarom niet zo gauw gaan wat er verkeerd gedaan is, maar meer over een inschatting dat er geen doelmatiger oplossingen meer zijn om een serieus risico voor WikiWoordenboek te voorkomen. We benaderen het dus niet als een soort strafmaatregel. In de praktijk kunnen bewerkers om vrij onschuldige fouten tijdelijk worden geblokkeerd, omdat het soms de enige manier blijkt te zijn om overleg op gang te brengen voordat er veel meer pagina's verkeerd worden bewerkt. Het antwoord is dus: ja, maar alleen als je daar hardnekkig mee doorgaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:09 (CET) == [[hallucineren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het is lastig, ik weet, om dergelijke woorden te illustreren, maar vind je [[:afbeelding:ALUCINACIONES DEL QUIJOTE.jpg|"Het '''hallucineren''' van Don Quichot, zoals afgebeeld op een boekillustratie uit 1863, van de hand van Gustave Doré"]]? een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:29 (CET) :Wat denk je van "{{w|nl|Don Quichot (boek)|Don Quichot}} omringd door zijn '''hallucinaties''', zoals afgebeeld door {{w|nl|Gustave Doré|"}} in een boekillustratie uit 1863." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:46 (CET) == IPA-controle == Hallo Marco, Ik heb weer even wat IPA-controle doorgevoerd en wat fouten gecorrigeerd.<br> Ik heb er een paar overgehouden waar ik geen chocola van kan maken.<br> Misschien kan jij er even naar kijken:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[ananasschijf]]<td>ana·nas·schijf<td>{{IPA|/'ɑnanɑsxɛɪf/|nld}} <tr><td>[[arbeidsplichtige]]<td>ar·beids·plich·ti·ge<td>{{IPA|/ɑrbɛɪts'plɪxtəɣə/|nld}} <tr><td>[[benedictijnerabdij]]<td>be·ne·dic·tij·ner·ab·dij<td>{{IPA|/benədɪk'tɛɪnərɑbdɛɪ/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Huaxcaleca-Nahuatl]]<td>Huaxca·le·ca-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/ˌhuwɑxkaˈleka nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} <tr><td>[[Orizaba-Nahuatl]]<td>Ori·za·ba-·Na·huatl<td>{{IPA|/oriˈzaba nahuˈwɑtəl/|nld}} </table> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:41 (CET) :Bij de eerste drie ging het om standaardaanpassingen als de klemtoontekens en de weergave van de ei-klank. De laatste twee blijven wat speculatief, het zijn woorden die buiten WikiWoordenboek niet gangbaar zijn, maar die we nu eenmaal nodig hebben om woorden te kunnen beschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:37 (CET) == duizend eerste == Hallo Marco, Heb jij enig idee waarom in de woordenlijst.org het woord [[duizend eerste]] staat?<br> [[honderdeerste]] wordt gewoon aan elkaar geschreven.<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 17:44 (CET) :Dat lijkt me het gevolg van {{spellingregel|6.N}}: tot en met honderd schrijven we getallen aan elkaar, maar na duizend volgt een spatie. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 20:20 (CET) == [[eerste]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kan je die pagina eens doornemen? Ik vroeg me af waarom er geen alfabetische rangschikking is. :-) Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) :Bedoel je de afgeleide begrippen? De sortering daarvan lijkt me wel alfabetisch, met dien verstande dat er geen verschil wordt gemaakt tussen hoofdletters en kleine letters en dat spatie en koppelteken in die volgorde voorafgaan aan letters. Of ging het je om iets anders? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 jan 2026 15:45 (CET) ::Ondertussen opgelost :-) Zou dit iets zijn om bijvoorbeeld aan te vullen met [[:afbeelding:Nl-duizend eerste.ogg|''De duizend eerste'' lezers van dit boekje worden beloond met een handtekening van de auteur ?]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 13:36 (CET) :::Als het er meer zijn, kun je beter spreken van de "eerste duizend", en als het er één is, van de "duizend eerste lezer van dit boekje wordt". --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:01 (CET) ::::Ja, [[:afbeelding:Henry Walter Fincham A Bookshop in Bloomsbury Wonderful London.webp|dat zou ik kunnen zijn geweest]] {{smiley}} [[:boekenwinkel|Hier zou ik liever het plaatje vervangen]]. Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 14:17 (CET) :::::Je zou het ook kunnen toevoegen in een gallery. Er zijn nogal wat verschijningsvormen van wat we [[boekenwinkel]], [[boekwinkel]] of [[boekhandel]] noemen: groot of klein, nieuw of tweedehands, eenmansbedrijf of grote keten, interieur of buitenzijde en dan nog allerlei specialisaties naar genre. Misschien één gevarieerde gallery maken en die dan op alledrie de lemma's gebruiken? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:10 (CET) ::::::Ik zou beginnen met alle afbeeldingen die er nu staan in een gallery te plaatsen en kijken wat er nog ontbreekt. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:34 (CET) :::::::Wat [[boekenwinkel|denk je]] voor wat betreft de interieurs? Heb je een speciale voorkeur voor exterieurs? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:55 (CET) == Onnodige doorverwijspagina’s == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb net enorm veel onnodige doorverwijspagina’s gevonden zou u die even kunnen verwijderen, want anders kan het heel verwarrend zijn voor mensen. [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Nuweg]] [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 15:40 (CET) :Laat maar Marcel coenders heeft het al gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 16:36 (CET) ::Gewoonlijk kijk ik elke dag wel even naar dit soort onderhoud. Als er wat meer tijd tussen zit of het probleem net na zo'n rondje ontstaat kan het wat langer duren voordat ik er iets aan doe. Pas wanneer er twee dagen niets gebeurt of bij urgente problemen is het zinvol even extra aandacht te vragen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :::Ik vroeg het omdat ik er best veel heb gevonden [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 11 jan 2026 18:19 (CET) == [[aarde]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:20140918-NRCS-LSC-0350 (15292104642).jpg|2. Een handvol '''aarde''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 08:03 (CET) :Mooi, compleet met aardworm! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jan 2026 10:36 (CET) == overtreffende trap van diploïde == hallo Marco, Bij de woordenlijst.org staat bij de overtreffende trap:<br> diploïd<br> diploïdst [di·plo·idst] <br> diploïdste [di·plo·id·ste] <br> maar:<br> diploïde<br> [[diploïedst]] [diplo·iedst] ik had verwacht: diploïdest<br> [[diploïedste]] [di·plo·ied·ste] ik had verwacht: diploïdeste<br> Ben ik nu in de war? groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 15 jan 2026 22:51 (CET) :Deze spelling is het best te begrijpen als je begint bij de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden op -''ide'', uitgesproken als -''iede''. Die hebben allemaal een overtreffende trap op -''iedst'': [[timide]] wordt [[timiedst]]. Dat geldt ook voor de woorden op -''oïde'': vandaar ''diploïedst''. Dit is strikt genomen geen spellingkwestie, het is de weergave van de uitspraak in het Nederlands waarbij de stomme e wegvalt. De verwarrende toestand ontstaat door een specifieke afwijkende behandeling van "wetenschappelijke termen op -''oïd''" in de ''Technische handleiding'' (3.5.3.6, p. 36), waar de klank ''-ie-'' wordt weergegeven als -''ï''-. Daar zitten ook een handvol bijvoeglijke naamwoorden bij ([[colloïd]], [[diploïd]], [[euploïd]], [[haploïd]] en [[organoïd]]) die zo een overtreffende trap krijgen op -'''oïdst'''. Maar al deze bijvoeglijke naamwoorden hebben ook een variant op -''oide'' ([[colloïde]], [[diploïde]], [[euploïde]], [[haploïde]] en [[organoïde]] met een overtreffende trap op -''oïedst''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 jan 2026 10:01 (CET) == [[bosbessen]] en [[bosbes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:A generous handful of blueberries depicts the rich abundance of berries that may be found in Alaskan areas. (d84880d1-1dd8-b71b-0b3d-6380eca4c663).jpg|"Twee handenvol '''bosbessen'''"]] en een [[:afbeelding:Afină.jpg|"Close-up van een '''bosbes'''"]], of lijkt je [[:afbeelding:Blueberry (160093295).jpeg|"Een rijpe, ongeplukte '''bosbes'''"]] zinvoller? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 16:24 (CET) :Je beide eerste keuzes spreken mij het meest aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 14:11 (CET) == [[waxinelicht]] en [[theelicht]] == Hallo MarcoSwart ik heb geen idee of waxinelicht en theelicht bestaan, maar waxinelichtje en theelichtje wel ik denk niet dat waxinelicht en theelicht dus zou u even kunnen kijken of deze twee woorden bestaan. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 17 jan 2026 18:14 (CET) :De eenvoudige controle is op woordenlijst.org: [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=waxinelicht waxinelicht] en [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=theelicht theelicht]. Er zijn in het Nederlands wel meer woorden via vooral gangbaar zijn als verkleinwoord, maar niet uitsluitend in die vorm voorkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jan 2026 13:41 (CET) == [[spookdiertje]] == Hoi MarcoSwart u heeft op de pagina spookdiertje neergezet dat het alleen verkleinwoord is, maar er bestaat ook een pagina met de titel [[spookdier]] is hier een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:23 (CET) :Het staat toch ook op woordenlijst.org [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:27 (CET) ::Probleem is dat de betekenis van spookdier niet volledig samenvalt met die van het verkleinwoord. Ik heb daarom voor een wat andere oplossing gekozen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:40 (CET) :::Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Spectral tarsier babies.jpg|"Drie jonge '''spookdiertjes'''<br>(''Tarsius spectrumgurskyae'')"]]? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 14:54 (CET) ::::Die verdienen wel een knus plekje. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 15:11 (CET) :::::Bedoel je [[:afbeelding:Philippoteaux & Piaud - Le Vicomte de Bragelonne - D'Artagnan.jpg|deze]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 16:38 (CET) == [[notulen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:PDIKM 791 Notulen.pdf|"De '''notulen''' van de 84e vergadering van de commissie van bijstand in het belang van het beheer der Emmahaven (1924)"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 18:39 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, maar het zou nog mooier zijn als het notulen van een iets herkenbaarder orgaan zouden zijn. Het begrip "commissie van bijstand" stond nog in een Nederlandse gemeentewet die al een decennium of twee niet meer van kracht is; de gemeentewet waar het hier eigenlijk om gaat, is door de souvereiniteitsoverdracht al veel langer niet meer van toepassing en de haven zelf heet daardoor ook niet meer naar Koningin Emma... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 20:35 (CET) ::Dankjewel, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Extract uyt de notulen der Heeren Bewindhebberen van de Oost-Indische Compagnie ter Kamer Zeeland, in hunne vergadering genomen binnen Middelburgh op de 16 December 1737. Omme te dienen tot authen - KONB16-378334611 - Prent 1 van 1.jpg|Uittreksel van de '''notulen''' van de bewindhebbers van de Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie (1737)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 11:16 (CET) :::Dat spreekt meer tot de verbeelding, maar voor de precisie zou ik dan als onderschrift iets gebruiken als : Uittreksel uit de '''notulen''' van de vergadering op 16 december 1737 van de bewindhebbers der {{w|nl|VOC-Kamer Zeeland|Kamer Zeeland}} van de {{w|nl|Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie|VOC}}. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:40 (CET) ::::Niet alleen in Twente is men dus zuinig :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 jan 2026 10:59 (CET) == [[hypodiastole]] == Hallo MarcoSwart waar heeft u gevonden dat de hypodiastole gebruikt wordt voor aan te geven dat letters die aan elkaar geschreven waren, als aparte woorden gelezen moesten worden, want ik kan het nergens vinden. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 09:30 (CET) :Op de Engelstalige Wikipedia staat een [[w:en:Hypodiastole|artikel]] met meer informatie over dit leesteken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:11 (CET) ::Wikipedia is toch geen betrouwbare bron [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 12:52 (CET) :::Het lemma vermeldt een bron. Maar de omschrijving daarin is zo kort, dat onze lezers daar niet echt mee geholpen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 13:18 (CET) ::::Is hypodiastole dan wel geschikt voor wikiwoordenboek [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 15:53 (CET) :::::Het is een grensgeval. Ik ben het ook tegengekomen in twee tamelijk technische verhandelingen over Griekse teksten. Buiten zulke beschouwingen zal het niet zo gauw worden gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:08 (CET) ::::::Is een verwijderdiscussie goed [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:09 (CET) :::::::Kan altijd. Misschien levert dat meer vinplaatsen op. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:25 (CET) ::::::::De meeste vindplaatsen die het woord hypodiastole bevatten zijn ENgels [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 16:28 (CET) == [[inktvis]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Moving Octopus Vulgaris 2005-01-14.ogg|"Een]] {{w|Europese achtarm|nl|Europese achtarm|Europese achtarm}} is een '''inktvis''' zonder (inwendig) skelet."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 07:05 (CET) :Het filmpje lijkt me heel geschikt. In dit geval zou je het onderschrift ook na "inktvis" kunnen beëindigen, want de opmerking over het "skelet" is alleen goed te begrijpen als je meer van inktvissen weet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jan 2026 21:16 (CET) == [[achtarm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart hoe noem je een [[kroonluchter]] met acht armen? thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 jan 2026 09:42 (CET) :Soms wordt die ook "achtarm" genoemd, maar het was wel zoeken om een voorbeeld te vinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:52 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Dutch chandelier.jpg|hebbes]], en dan nog wel een ''Dutch chandelier'' {{smiley}}<br>Bij [[achtarmige]] zie in eerder een [[:afbeelding:019 Durga (40447673301).jpg|"Beeldje van een '''achtarmige''']] {{w|nl|Durga|Durga}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:25 (CET) == [[mazelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Medical diagnosis for the student and practitioner (1922) (14761731976).jpg|"Een kind met '''mazelen''' (1922)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 17:22 (CET) :Zielig! Maar wel een geschikte illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:57 (CET) == Juiste spelling deniteur of denieteur == Hallo MarcoSwart ik weet niet wat de juiste spelling is, want je ziet deniteur en denieteur weet u wat de juiste spelling is? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 jan 2026 18:06 (CET) :Dit is een wat schertsende leenvertaling uit het Frans. Daardoor kun je voor beide spellingen een argumentatie geven: als je het meer Frans wil laten lijken kies je voor ''&#8209;niteur'' in navolging van een reeks ontleningen op ''&#8209;iteur'' en als je dichter bij het Nederlands wil blijven kies je voor ''&#8209;nieteur'', net als in ''nieten''. Voor dit woord geven woordenlijst.org en de algemene woordenboeken (nog) geen uitsluitsel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:54 (CET) ::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, zou [[:afbeelding:Benutzung eines Klammerentferners.gif|"Demonstratie met een '''ontnieter'''"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:12 (CET) :::Gelet op de beweging zou ik hier kiezen voor het werkwoord: "Om te '''ontnieten''' moet je eerst de uiteinden van het nietje terugbuigen." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 13:42 (CET) == Melding tijdelijke accounts == Hallo MarcoSwart ik krijg een melding als ik een tijdelijk account wil aanmaken en ik werk ook altijd met tijdelijke accounts ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Kunt u dat deblokkeren? [[Gebruiker:Boterpo|Boterpo]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Boterpo|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 09:17 (CET) :De tijdelijke accounts werken voor alle Wikimedia wiki's tegelijk. Dat wil zeggen dat wij daar geen directe invloed op hebben. Ik weet wel dat er in de programmatuur een beperking zit in het aantal tijdelijke accounts dat je per periode kan aanmaken. Als je te snel achtereen tijdelijke accounts aanmaakt, zou dat tot een melding kunnen leiden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo MarcoSwart het is me nog steeds niet gelukt om een tijdelijk account aan te maken en heb daarom even dit account aangemaakt. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 20:59 (CET) == [[geniet]] == Kan je de rode tekst onderaan fixen? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 16:49 (CET) :{{done}} --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:24 (CET) == [[truweel]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Throwel in a bucket.JPG|"Een '''truweel''' in een emmer gevuld met cement"]] geschikt zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) :Lijkt me een goede insteek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2026 08:28 (CET) == [[jodellied]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:GoodbyeOldPal.ogg|"Een '''jodellied''' van]] [[en:w:Cliff Carlisle|Cliff Carlisle"]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:02 (CET) :Een voor een [[:afbeelding:The original German yodel ZS V78-0637.wav|'''jodel''' had ik ook iets op de virtuele kop getikt.]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 13:05 (CET) ::Dat lijken me zinnige voorbeelden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:27 (CET) :::Bij [[jodel]] moet ik passen, hulp zou heel welkom zijn. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 17:42 (CET) ::::Misschien is de onbepaalde wijs een betere plek: "Amerikaanse opname uit 1947 van een man die gaat '''jodelen'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 09:53 (CET) == [[witwaspraktijk]] en [[witwaspraktijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vreemd dat het enkelvoud er niet is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 jan 2026 18:23 (CET) :Nu wel en de aandachtige lezer kan ook zien waarom het meervoud er eerder was. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:23 (CET) ::[[:afbeelding:Benzoyl peroxide stain.jpg|Vlekken veroorzaakt door een '''bleekmiddel''' zijn niet meer te verwijderen]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:51 (CET) :::Dank voor de tip met het salon, op [[:nl:w:Mondial de l'Automobile|"Mondial de l'Automobile"]] staat het vol van "de salon". Zou ik dit durven wijzigen zonde rop mijn donder te krijgen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 16:57 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Hoog rechthoekig pak Radion zelfwerkend wasmiddel, rood, geel en wit, objectnr 33614.JPG|Radion wast witter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:07 (CET) ::::Omdat [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=salon salon] zowel mannelijk als onzijdig kan zijn, zie ik geen reden de schrijfwijze te veranderen. :::::Ik wijzigde het reeds, ofwel '''het salon''' over de ganse lijn, ofwel ''de salon'' in dezelfde tekst dacht ik. We zien wel. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 18:02 (CET) ::::"''Radion'' was een bekend [[witwasmiddel]]." Dat is niet hetzelfde als een bleekmiddel. ::::Maar het zou mooi zijn als we een plaatje met een echt bleekmiddel hebben, gevolgd door het plaatje met de vlekken, want op dat plaatje zien we het bleekmiddel zelf niet. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:52 (CET) == [[tegoedbon]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:IRC1907-1930Belgium.jpg|"Deze '''tegoedbon''' kon anno 1907 ingewisseld worden voor een postzegel van 25 centiemen."]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 05:57 (CET) :Ondertussen liep ik ook [[:afbeelding:Tegoedbon “Ned. Geref. Kerk. Goed voor eene warme stoof”, objectnr 87500-A.JPG|hier]] tegenaan. Dat zal dan wel een [[stoofpotje]] geweest zijn denk ik. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:02 (CET) ::De eerste lijkt me een geschikt voorbeeld. Bij de tweede gaat het waarschijnlijk eerder om warme voeten dan een volle maag; bij de Ned. Geref. Kerk waren ze niet zo van [[q:nl:Moraal|''Erst kommt das Fressen...'']] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) :::Inderdaad, zo zag ik het ook. Kan me bezwaarlijk voorstellen dat de kerk plots stoven gaan verdelen. Anderzijds, komt de uitdrukking [[:afbeelding:F804 Interior-2.jpg|''ronkend witgoed'']] je bekend voor? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:02 (CET) ::::[[:afbeelding:Clothes in white laundry basket.jpg|"Witgoed en bontgoed horen niet in dezelfde mand"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 17:11 (CET) == [[stoofschotel]] == [[:afbeelding:Blanquette seule.jpg|"Een]] {{w|nl|Blanquette de veau|blanquette de veau}} is een typische '''stoofschotel'''" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 06:11 (CET) :Dat laat ik je graag opdienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 11:50 (CET) == [[zelfscankassa]] == Ik vroeg me af of het ook wat [[:afbeelding:Zelfscankassa's NIX18 (Albert Heijn XL), Hillegersberg, Rotterdam (2023) 02.jpg|dichter bij huis kan]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 07:07 (CET) :Als ik scan is de kassa zelf buiten beeld. Maar wat denk je van: "Bij alcoholhoudende dranken worden er twee '''leeftijdsgrenzen''' gebruikt: je moet minstens 18 zijn om ze te mogen kopen en daarvoor moet je je legitimeren totdat je 25 bent." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2026 12:07 (CET) :: Thumbs up {{smiley}} == [[machinebankwerker]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je dit een [[:afbeelding:Reproductie van veiligheidsplaat met waarschuwing over het gevaar van draaiende , Bestanddeelnr 256-0438.jpg|machinebankwerker]] noemen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 06:42 (CET) :Als ik goed kijk, denk ik wel. Maar wat denk je van [[:bestand:Lathe operator machining parts for transport planes at the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation plant, Fort Worth, Texas LCCN2017878313.jpg|1. Een '''machinebankwerker''' in een Amerikaanse vliegtuigfabriek (1942).]] [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 11:53 (CET) == verbuigingen == Hallo Marco, Ik heb me even bezig gehouden met de controle van de bijvoeglijke-naamwoordverbuigingen.<br> Enige veranderingen waren wel nodig!!!<br> Nu ben ik daarbij gestoten op de parameters pred (=predicaat) en stof in het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Daar heb ik wel wat vragen over:<br> Is een woord als [[zwakjes]] nu wel of geen predicaat?<br> (er is alleen een stellende trap en kan niet voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden)<br> Verder over de stof-parameter:<br> is [[latex]] nu een stof als zodanig (het is een bijv. naamwoord, kan wel voor een zelfstandig naamwoord geplaatst worden dus geen predicaat).<br> [[ijzer]] is geen bijvoeglijk naamwoord dus geen stof=1 maar [[aluminium]] wel stof=1?<br> Overigens staat bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Categorie:Predicaatswoord_in_het_Nederlands<br> een volgens mij onjuist voorbeeld.<br> De man is onwel =>De [[onwelle]] man, want volgens de Taalunie is onwel gewoon verbuigbaar.<br> Verder heb ik ook weer eens de verbuiging van de voltooid deelwoorden onderzocht.<br> Is het zo dat als een infinitief uitsluitend intransitief is dat dan het voltooid deelwoord geen verbuiging heeft?<br> Als dat zo is, kan ik makkelijk 2242 wijzigingen aanbrengen die dit dan veroorzaken.<br> (ik heb nu van veel werkwoorden van de Taalunie de 'soort werkwoord' tot mijn beschikking) Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 12:20 (CET) :Je vraag gaat voor een deel over veranderingen die zich in het spraakgebruik voltrekken. Daardoor gaan bronnen elkaar tegenspreken. In mijn oren klinkt het attributief gebruik van "onwel" of "stuk" onbeholpen, maar de Taalunie ziet deze vormen nu kennelijk wel voorkomen. In de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst gelden beide nog als predicatief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoorden. Onze sjablonen zijn niet afgestemd op het weergeven van dit soort nuances. Op "zwakjes" heb ik dat nu opgelost door het zuiver als bijwoord te beschrijven in overeenstemming met woordenlijst.org, maar hier vermeldt de Algemene Nederlandse Spraakkunst dat dit soort bijwoorden op -jes soms ook predicatief worden gebruikt. :Als je voor de categorie Predicaatswoord een veiliger voorbeeld zoekt, zouden we {{Q|anders|nld|bn}} kunnen nemen. :Het idee bij de parameter ''stof'' voor bijvoeglijke naamwoorden is dat deze woorden alleen attributief worden gebruikt en geen trappen van vergelijking kennen. Traditioneel gaat het om woorden op -en (houten, ijzeren, gouden). Bij modernere stoffen wordt nogal eens gewoon het zelfstandig naamwoord, zonder de uitgang -en als bijvoeglijke naamwoord gebruikt. De trappen van vergelijking ontbreken in dat geval ook. Je kunt gemakkelijk verdedigen dat er ook geen predicatief gebruik is, omdat je dat altijd kan opvatten als het zelfstandig naamwoord: Bij een houten kast op aluminium poten, waren de deurtjes ook hout en de handgrepen aluminium. Ik denk dat zowel "latex" als "aluminium" in adjcomp de parameter "stof=1" moeten hebben. :Er zijn zeker intransitieve werkwoorden met een verbogen vorm: het naar huis geholde kind, de uitgerukte brandweer. Wat wel semi-automatisch is na te gaan: voltooide deelwoorden op -en (behalve die op -zien) hebben geen verbogen vorm. Als deze groep is uitgefilterd, wil ik nog wel eens kijken of er een regel is die wel opgaat voor inergatieve werkwoorden, omdat daar een logische verklaring voor zou zijn. Maar taal is niet altijd logisch, dus dat zou ik eerst moeten nagaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 14:14 (CET) ::Bedankt voor je antwoord. Iets wat ik nog niet begrepen heb over 'predicaat' is: ::Als je een bijvoeglijk naamwoord attributief kunt gebruiken zoals bij voorbeeld [[duplex]] (een duplex woning) is het dan correct als daar pred=1 staat? (zoals nu het geval is) [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 10:40 (CET) :::Dat pred=1 in dit geval niet klopt, lijkt me juist. Ik heb het lemma daarom wat aangepast; je voorbeeld heb ik niet gebruikt, want de officiële schrijfwijze is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=duplexwoning duplexwoning]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 jan 2026 23:22 (CET) == [[verbogen]] == Bij het woord "verbuigingen" denk ik automatisch aan [[verbuigen]] :-) Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Ontploffingen, gasexplosies, SFA022814101.jpg|"Gekromd en '''verbogen''' ijzerwerk van een stoomketel na een explosie in de]] {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}} te Schaesberg." ? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 18:04 (CET) :Dat is een bruikbaar voorbeeld, maar voor onze toepassing zou ik 'gekromd' gewoon weglaten: "2. Door een explosie verbogen ijzerwerk van een stoomketel in de {{w|nl|Oranje-Nassau II|Oranje-Nassaumijn II}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jan 2026 19:44 (CET) == [[aantreden]] == Dag MarcoSwart, weet je wat [[:afbeelding:Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten (B, Inventarisnummer KNA006021918.JPG|Aangetrede Binnenlandse Strijdkrachten zouden kunnen zijn?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 07:55 (CET) :Dat moet inderdaad "Aangetrede'''n'''" zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == coderoodwaarschuwing == Ik heb denk ik nog wel twee bronnen voor coderoodwaarschuwing: https://customerfirstbuyersguide.nl/6702/hoe-maakt-de-spraakherkenner-het-groot-dictee-der-nederlandse-taal/ en https://dictees.nl/huiskamercompetitie-krijgt-de-ruimte/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 09:10 (CET) :Deze twee grijpen allebei terug op ''Het Groot Dictee der Nederlandse Taal'' uit 2018 en die vindplaats staat er al bij. Zoals {{WikiW|Gewenste_lemma's#Woorden|hier}} wordt beschreven, leveren teksten die in feite uit dezelfde bron komen geen bewijs dat een woord daarbuiten gangbaar is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) == [[censuur]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van (indien mogelijke) een dubbele afbeelding met "[[:afbeelding:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga Don Canal.jpg|Nikolai Yezhov met Stalin en Molotov]] en [[:afbeelding:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|Communistische '''censuur''': Enkel Stalin en Molotov]] nadat {{w|nl|Nikolai Yezhov|Nikolai Yezhov}} in ongenade gevallen was."? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 13:46 (CET) :Dit soort geschiedvervalsing lijkt me meer specifiek een voorbeeld van [[wegretoucheren]] uit propagandamateriaal. Helaas ontbreekt Jezjov op beide foto's waar je naar linkte. Maar wat denk je van een gallery met "[[:Bestand:Nikolai Yezhov with Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, orignal.jpg|1. Een foto met Molotov en Stalin (april 1937)]], voor het '''wegretoucheren''' van {{w|nl|Nikolaj Jezjov|N. Jezjov}} (rechts)." en "[[:Bestand:Stalin and Molotov along the Volga–Don Canal, Nikolai Yezhov removed.jpg|1. Dezelfde foto na het '''wegretoucheren''' van Jezjov (na 1940)]] laat alleen nog {{w|nl|Vjatsjeslav Molotov|Molotov}} en {{w|nl|Jozef Stalin|Stalin}} zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) ::Oei, heb ik er nou weer een potje van gemaakt. Sorry. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :::Sjonge, sjonge, een [[:afbeelding:Example of pseudohistory.gif|sterk staaltje]] van [[geschiedvervalsing]] als je 't mij vraagt. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == Gebruikerspagina voor Gebruiker Vuurregenboog == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik een gebruikerspagina aanmaak. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 09:22 (CET) :Een van de voordelen van een gebruikersnaam is dat je een gebruikerspagina kan aanmaken. Daar heb je verder geen toestemming voor nodig. Maar als je daarbij vragen hebt, help ik je graag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 10:03 (CET) ::Zijn er dingen die ik niet op mijn gebruikerspagina mag zetten? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) :::Ja, maar vraag me niet om een opsomming {{smiley|:)}} Gebruikerspagina's zijn een deel van het project, dus dingen die schadelijk zijn voor WikiWoordenboek moet je echt vermijden. Daarnaast: ook bewerkingen op je gebruikerspagina vallen onder de vrije licentie. Zet er dus geen dingen op die je niet verder verspreid zou willen zien. We zijn hier op WikiWoordenboek niet zo bezig met het verzinnen van allerlei regels, gebruik je gezond verstand en dan gaat het vast prima. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:36 (CET) == [[nest]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van dit [[:afbeelding:Een nest van de kleine karekiet (Acrocephalus scirpaceus) in vegetatie van de riet-associatie (Typho-Phragmitetum).jpg|"Een '''nest''' van de kleine karekiet"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:33 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal op zijn plaats, zowel in het riet als in het lemma. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:41 (CET) == [[choopie]] == Latijn heeft de pagina choopie aangemaakt zou u die even kunnen controleren en verbeteren. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:44 (CET) :Zou u dan toch ook even de pagina aan willen vullen als je een verwijderdiscussie neerzet dan stuur ik een bedankje dat beloof ik [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :Aanvullen heeft geen zin. Dit woord komt nog niet voor in woordenboeken of publicaties. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:02 (CET) ::Is het goed als ik choopie aanvul [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:05 (CET) :::De pagina kan gewoon worden bewerkt, maar we kunnen haar alleen laten staan als er genoeg vindplaatsen zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:10 (CET) == [[chocoladepaashaas]] en [[chocoladepaashazen]] == [[:afbeelding:Chocolate Bunny (53623699361).jpg|Een '''chocoladepaashaas''' in fondant]] en [[:afbeelding:Die Kunst der Confiserie von Grund auf lernen .jpg|Een assortiment '''chocoladepaashazen''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 15:59 (CET) :De foto's lijken me pa(a)ssend. Omdat "fondant" meerdere betekenissen heeft, is het misschien duidelijker om "in fondant" te vervangen door "van pure chocola". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) ::Goeie vraag {{smiley}} Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Lepus EM1B1104 (34704351540).jpg|Twee '''hazen''']] om aan [[hazen]] toe te voegen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:21 (CET) :::Lijkt me heel duidelijk. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 16:47 (CET) == [[kaasburger]] == Is dit een [[:afbeelding:Burger patties with cheese slices 20240428192405.jpg|"Een onafgewerkte '''kaasburger'''"]] en [[:File:Cheeseburger (36914104970).jpg|"Een etensklare '''kaasburger'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :De foto's geven een goed beeld. Ik zou de onderschriften nog wat vereenvoudigen tot iets als "Bereiding van '''kaasburgers'''." en "Een '''kaasburger''', klaar om te eten." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:02 (CET) == [[gehaktbroodje]] == Wat dacht je van dit gezond ogend [[:afbeelding:Hackbraten03.jpg|"'''gehaktbroodje''' met peterselie"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) :Lijkt me helemaal klaar om op te dienen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:05 (CET) == [[pesto]] == Wat denk je van een [[:afbeelding:Bärlauchpesto.jpg|"Daslook'''pesto'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:11 (CET) :Door het aaneenschrijven wordt het weer een ander woord. Maar dat is op te lossen met een onderschrift als "Een '''pesto''' van [[daslook]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:08 (CET) == [[gesuikerd]] == [[:afbeelding:Sour rainbow belts.jpg|"Kleurrijk '''gesuikerd''' snoepgoed voor de vegan"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 18:17 (CET) :De suiker is mooi zichtbaar! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::Dacht bij [[besuikerd]] misschien aan iets in de aard van [[:afbeelding:The finished product (5334935674).jpg|"Een pannenkoek wordt besuikerd"]] of eerder [[:afbeelding:Powdered sugar (13656621734).jpg|"Deze oliebollen worden '''besuikerd'''"]] (mijn favoriet) {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:06 (CET) == stofadjectief en alleen attributief == Hallo Marco, Ik was even bezig met die stofadjectieven.<br> Wat me opvalt is dat als ik in het sjabloon adjcomp de parameter stof=1 opgeef, dit wordt weergegeven in het Wikiwoordenboek als '(alleen attributief)'.<br> Misschien heb ik niet goed begrepen wat [[attributief]] betekent maar een bijvoeglijk naamwoord als [[polyester]] kan volgens mij zowel attributief als predicatief worden gebruikt.<br> (naast polyester kan ik nog minstens 45 woorden opnoemen waarvoor hetzelfde geldt).<br> Alleen de adjectieven die zijn afgeleid door toevoeging van -n of -en aan de stofnaam zijn mijns inziens alleen attributief. Dus bij voorbeeld [[ijzeren]] want afkomstig van ijzer met -en maar niet [[linnen]].<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:10 (CET) :Als het stofadjectief ook een stofnaam is, is het niet eenvoudig om het attributief gebruikte bijvoeglijke naamwoord te onderscheiden van het zelfstandig naamwoord. :#''Het materiaal aan de onderkant is '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal van '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} :#''De onderkant is helemaal '''polyester'''.'' {{+|zn}} of {{+|bn}}, ''predicatief'' :#''Ik zie de '''polyester''' onderkant.'' {{+|bn}}, ''attributief'' :Mijn voornaamste overweging om bij 3. toch uit te gaan van een zelfstandig naamwoord is de ontkennende vorm: ::4.a ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>geen</u> '''polyester'''.'' :klinkt voor mij natuurlijker dan ::4.b ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> '''polyester'''.'' :dat wordt dan toch eerder ::4.c ''De onderkant is helemaal <u>niet</u> van '''polyester'''.'' :Heb je een zuiver voorbeeld van predicatief gebruik? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[melkkarretje]] == Wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Een besneeuwde straat met een melkkarretje, SFA003004552.jpg|"Een melkkarretje anno 1919"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 10:46 (CET) :Of de melk aan de eisen voldeed is nu niet meer te achterhalen, maar de foto in ieder geval wel. Misschien is het wel aardig om het onderschrift nog wat aan te vullen tot "Keurmeesters controleren de inhoud van een '''melkkarretje''' in de winter van 1919. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:13 (CET) == Juiste spelling anderhalfuur of anderhalf uur == Hallo MarcoSwart weet u wat de juiste spelling is van anderhalfuur? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:17 (CET) :De schrijfwijze "anderhalf uur" is zeker correct, net als "tweeënhalf uur" of "drieënhalf uur". In theorie kan ik me we een zelfstandig naamwoord ''anderhalfuur'' voorstellen, vooral als aanduiding van een voetbalwedstrijd, omdat die standaard zo lang duurt ("Komende wedstrijd wordt het ''anderhalfuur'' van de waarheid.") In de praktijk kom ik de aaneengeschreven vorm alleen tegen in zinnen die grammaticaal correct blijven als ''anderhalfuur'' wordt vervangen door ''twee uur'' en waarbij het lidwoord "het" zeker niet mogelijk is. Dan gaat het dus gewoon om een woordgroep van een telwoord gevolgd door een zelfstandig naamwoord. Volgens {{spellingregel|6.B}} worden die niet aan elkaar geschreven. Ook als mijn theoretische voorbeeld zou bestaan, kon je daarnaast nog altijd schrijven over "... de anderhalf uur van de waarheid". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 14:42 (CET) == kleine wijziging sjabloon adjcomp == Hallo Marco, Ik ben nog bezig met het sjabloon adjcomp.<br> Wanneer daar de parameter p=1 is opgegeven en GEEN waarde voor part is gespecificeerd wordt de waarde van de partitief standaard gepresenteerd als het woord gevolgd door -s.<br> Volgens mij heeft het voordelen deze partitief te omgeven met de vierkante haken <nowiki>[[ ]]</nowiki> want dan kan er ook op geklikt worden. (Zie als voorbeeld [[boetevrij]]).<br> Hetzelfde verhaal geldt voor de partcomp.<br> Helaas is het sjabloon beschermd dus ik kan het niet veranderen.<br> Voel jij hier iets voor?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 17:32 (CET) :Bij mijn weten is er enige discussie over automatisch linken of het liever zelf opgeven van links. Dat speelt vooral als een cel plaats moet bieden aan meer dan één link; bij dit sjabloon zou ik daar niet direct een voorbeeld van weten. :Daarnaast is er het risico dat de verstekwaarden zo goed werken, dat ze niet meer worden gecontroleerd en dan kun je ongemerkt iets krijgen als "logischs". :Dit sjabloon is ontstaan uit opeenvolgende aanpassingen en zit daarom hoe dan ook wat eigenaardig in elkaar. Waarom zijn er wel verstekwaarden voor de partitieve vormen, maar niet voor de overige? Is er een voorbeeld waarbij de eerste parameter ''niet'' <code><nowiki>{{pn}}</nowiki></code> is? Ik vermoed dat de vergrotende trap altijd de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap plus ''-r'' is. Bestaat er een voorbeeld waarbij de verbogen vormen van de vergrotende en de overtreffende trap niet gewoon door toevoeging van -e worden gevormd? Waarom moet "part=1" worden opgegeven, terwijl de partitief in maar weinig gevallen ontbreekt. :Voor het moment vind ik het eigenlijk niet zo'n probleem om alle waarden gewoon zelf (als link) op te geven (<code><nowiki>part=[[boetevrijs]]</nowiki></code>). Ik veronderstel dat je ons huidige bestand aan bijvoeglijknaamwoordsvormen al eens hebt vergeleken met woordenlijst.org. Het zou dan aardig zijn om in dat bestand eens na te gaan of mijn veronderstelde wetmatigheden inderdaad bestaan en met welke uitzonderingen we te maken hebben. Ik denk dat de vorming van de verbogen vorm van de stellende trap het meest complex is, dat bij de woorden op een s-klank bij de partitief en de superlatief geen s wordt toegevoegd en de overige vormen dat goed voorspelbaar zijn. :Ik kan me dan voorstellen dat we een sjabloon maken waar je voor alle cellen desgewenst een waarde kan opgeven, maar er altijd een als link uitgevoerde verstekwaarde bestaat. Je weet dan als gebruiker dat je alle waarden in het tabelletje dat je zo krijgt even moet checken. Langs die weg kun je zo nodig ook meer links in een cel opgeven. Je zou met parameters kunnen regelen dat delen van de tabel voor sommige woorden worden uitgeschakeld. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 20:08 (CET) == [[uitroepingsteken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Bang.svg|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:01 (CET) :Ja! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 14:27 (CET) == [[vraagteken]] == [[:afbeelding:Question mark Kiyox.png|dit]] hadden we ook nog niet {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:24 (CET) :Nou, dat heb je dan ook weer mooi opgelost, of niet dan? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 15:51 (CET) == [[kienkaart]] == Is [[:afbeelding:Middelgrote kienkaart.PNG|Een middelgrote '''kienkaart''']] een geschikt voorbeeld? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:48 (CET) :Kien! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:38 (CET) == [[bingokaarten]] == Wat denk je van deze [[:afbeelding:Zak met achttien bingo kaarten met cijfers en afbeeldingen, en twee kaarten met klokken, objectnr 32178.JPG|"'''Bingokaarten''' met cijfers en afbeeldingen naast twee kaarten met klokken"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:51 (CET) ::Dit lijken me [[kienkaarten]], de tabellen bij bingo zijn vijf bij vijf vakjes. Ik ben eigenlijk wel benieuwd waar de klokkaartjes voor dienen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Kan bij [[bingo]] [[:afbeelding:Doos met bingo spel bingokaarten, geel zakje fiches met nummers, doosje rode fiches, objectnr 77303.JPG|"Een doos van het kaartspel '''bingo'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 17:59 (CET) ::Ja, maar de term "kaartspel" is nodeloos verwarrend. Wat denk je van "Een doos met spullen om thuis '''bingo''' te spelen."? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) :Is dit geschikt voor [[:afbeelding:Tambiolo.jpg|"Een '''bingomolen'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 18:03 (CET) ::Draaien maar! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 feb 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[litanie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou je [[:afbeelding:Litanie van de heilige Wivina van Bijgaarden, asset R1orecVv4DTNCdQZZbnh9Dz1.tif|"Een '''litantie''' om]] {{w|nll|Wivina van Bijgaarden|Wivina van Bijgaarden}} aan te roepen" zien zitten {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Persoonlijk zie ik me dit niet zo gauw doen, maar als illustratie op het lemma is het natuurlijk wel voorbeeldig (als je de tweede t in het onderschrift en de tweede l in de hyperlink verwijdert). --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 feb 2026 21:58 (CET) == [[brillenglas]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:US Navy 090617-N-1783P-009 Bob Gore uses bifocals that provide a magnification factor of 10x to read text.jpg|"Een bifocaal '''brillenglas'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :Voor het mv. had ik [[:afbeelding:Bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe brillenglazen, BK-1978-429-A.jpg|"Een bril van blauw staal met ovale blauwe '''brillenglazen''']]" op het oog. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 18:41 (CET) ::Zien er alle drie goed uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2026 20:18 (CET) == [[circuskamelen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat dacht je van deze [[:afbeelding:Camels at Circus Maximum (20249604898).jpg|"Een voorstelling met '''circuskamelen''' in het]] [[:sv:w:Cirkus Maximum|Cirkus Maximum"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:06 (CET) :Helemaal klaar voor ons hooggeëerd publiek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[Wetstraat]] == Aangezien Premier {{w|nl|Bart De Wever|Bare De Wever}} recente wetgeving in België met kamelen vergelijkt, dacht ik dat een afbeelding als [[:afbeelding:Parlement Brussel 01.jpg|deze]] niet mag ontbreken. De begeleidende tekst bij [2] leg ik graag in jouw handen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 06:20 (CET) :2. Een straatnaambord uit de '''Wetstraat''' in Brussel, het bestuurlijk hart van België. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 13:38 (CET) == [[eetbak]] == [[:afbeelding:Donkey eating.jpg|1. "In deze '''eetbak''' liggen appels voor de ezel."]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 16:07 (CET) == [[barre]] == Zou de tekst van [[bar]] hier geschikt zijn? "Barre omstandigheden" bedoel ik of had je iets anders in petto? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 17:47 (CET) :Bij zowel [[bar]], [[barre]] als [[barren]] viel er nog wel wat aan te vullen en te verbeteren. Ik heb daar op jouw aangeven een begin mee gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 feb 2026 22:45 (CET) == [[wapening]] == Inderdaad, "rebar" {{smiley}} Ik vroeg me af of een aanvulling met iets als [[:afbeelding:Augustusbrücke-Dresden April 2018 -056.jpg|"Geplaatste wapening voor een brug"]] zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 06:19 (CET) :Een gallery zou kunnen en dan zou ook een plaatje waar je ook ziet hoe vervolgens het beton om de wapening wordt gegoten verhelderend zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:26 (CET) ::misschien [[:afbeelding:KSC-20170629-PH LCH01 0023 (35030726763).jpg|gieten van het beton]] en [[:afbeelding:After grouting, it's necessary to flatten and smoothen the surface.jpg|effenen van de oppervlakte]]? De exacte omschrijving laat ik aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:05 (CET) :::Mooie vondsten! Mijn suggesties zouden zijn: ::::Het [[beton]] wordt om de '''wapening''' in de [[bekisting]] gestort. ::::De '''wapening''' (links) die later de muren versterkt loopt door in het al gestorte [[fundament]]. :::[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:41 (CET) == [[wijsneus]] == Hallo MarcoSwart [[:File:De wijsneus Meynaert Noes Wys (titel op object), RP-P-1886-A-10446.jpg|dit]] vind je waarschijnlijk niet geschikt, maar ik vind het heel mooi en wil het met delen. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 18:37 (CET) :De vorm van de neus suggereert dat die minder boven boeken en meer boven glazen was te vinden... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 21:32 (CET) ::Dat hat ik ook gezien, en dat zal dan misschien aan de basis liggen van zijn ''wijsneuszijn'' :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:07 (CET) :::Misschien is het wel een [[:afbeelding:De vernuftigh betweter embleemprent uit Sinnepoppen van Roemer Visscher Amsterdam, 1614 - BBB-88.jpg|betweter]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 06:08 (CET) ::::De tekenaar was dat in ieder geval niet. Het is de bedoeling dat de afgebeelde persoon een bijbel ondersteboven houdt, de tekst komt van het titelblad van de Statenbijbel, maar dat zit uiteraard niet in het midden van het boek en meestal ook niet op een linkerpagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 09:29 (CET) == [[User:Charlotte Maddox]] == Hi @[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] please have a look at this account. They got blocked on frwiktionary for the same disrutive edits. [[Gebruiker:NDG|NDG]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:NDG|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:34 (CET) :The user is already global blocked. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:37 (CET) == [[drossaard]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove PK-T-8922, PK-T-2741.tiff|deze afbeelding]] van Joan Sloot, drossaard van Vollenhove en toen ik hier voorbijkwam, zag ik dat een begeesterende verduidelijkende zin ontbreekt. Kan je hier iets mee? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 17:43 (CET) :{{w|nl|Sloet|Johan Sloet de Jonge}}, heer van {{w|nl|Zalk|"}} en '''drossaard''' van {{w|nl|Vollenhove|"}} was een van de ondertekenaars van het [[Twaalfjarig Bestand]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:06 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt MarcoSwart, ik voeg deze informatie meteen toe aan {{w|nl|Sloet|Sloet}} :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 06:44 (CET) == [[stress]] en [[stressvrij]] == Ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:Nl-stressvrij.ogg|dit]] zinvol is om aan te maken. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:02 (CET) :Zou [[:afbeelding:Stress release.jpg|stressbal]] zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:05 (CET) ::Of [[:afbeelding:Man Feeling Stressed In The Workplace.jpg|dit]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 18:16 (CET) :::De stressbal heeft al een afbeelding. Stress zelf is een wat abstract begrip, hoewel je laatste plaatje mij wel illustratief lijkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 feb 2026 22:11 (CET) == [[ijsvrij]] == Hierop inpikkend: wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Aeroflot Airbus A330-200 de-icing Pereslavtsev.jpg|"Het '''ijsvrij''' maken van een vliegtuig"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 07:22 (CET) :Dat lijkt me een veilige toevoeging. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 12:58 (CET) ::Helemaal niet, ik heb vlug [[:afbeelding:It's time to have ice cream on the beach.jpg|"Een ijsco of kortweg '''ijsje'''"]] voor je gehaald. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 15:50 (CET) :::Kijk, daar kun je bij mij mee aankomen! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 feb 2026 19:56 (CET) == [[aankomen]] of [[vermageren]] == Da's weer zo'n moeilijk te omschrijven woord: [[:afbeelding:Matthew Riggs PHAT2FIT.jpg|?]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:37 (CET) :[[:afbeelding:Obesity-waist circumference.svg|Dit misschien]] om niemand te schofferen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:44 (CET) ::Het is gewoon bijna niet in één plaatje te vangen, omdat het om een proces gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) == [[overgewicht]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:At the beach - male abdominal obesity.JPG|"Een man met '''overgewicht'''"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 05:47 (CET) :Lijkt me wel duidelijk, hoewel hij ook een zonnebril en een zomerhoedje heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:26 (CET) == [[krombenig]] eb [[krombeen]] == Zou [[:afbeelding:Wat een offer Que sacrificio (titel op object) Los Caprichos (serietitel), RP-P-1921-2035.jpg|dit]] of [[:afbeelding:Een invalide boerenkoppel met kromme benen, objectno PK.OP.02301.tif|dit]] geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:00 (CET) :De eerste is vanwege de bochel wat verwarrend. De tweede zou kunnen als "Deze boeren vormen een '''krombenig''' paar." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:24 (CET) == Gebruiker: Latijn == Ik vraag me af of Latijn hier ook goede dingen doet, want hij is op Wikibooks geblokkeerd [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 17:41 (CET) :Latijn doet af en toe zinvolle bewerkingen en lijkt verder bezig om mogelijkheden te verkennen. Wat er op andere wiki's gebeurt of gebeurd is, verandert daar niets aan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:21 (CET) ::Wat als iemand op 1 wiki heel stout doet (bijvoorbeeld andere gebruikers uitschelden of vandalisme) en op de andere wiki heel goede dingen doet kan je daarvoor ook een straf krijgen op de andere wiki [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:23 (CET) :::Voor zover ik weet is dat op WikiWoordenboek nog nooit gebeurd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 feb 2026 19:31 (CET) ::::Latijn heeft choopie hernoemd naar de protologismen zou u eventjes de bijdragen van gebruiker Latijn willen controleren [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:17 (CET) == [[sst]] == Wat dacht je van deze vorm van [[etiquette]] [[:afbeelding:Signo malpermesanta bruon en la beginejo de Bruĝo 01.jpg|(aan de ingang van het Begijnhof Ten Wijngaerde in Brugge?)]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 07:00 (CET) == [[klokkenluidersregeling]] [[klokkenluiderregeling]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zonet stootte ik ook op [[:afbeelding:Nl-klokkenluiderregeling.ogg|klokkenluiderregeling]]. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 feb 2026 17:13 (CET) == Protologismen == MarcoSwart, kan ik 'choopie' naar de protologismen verplaatsen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 18 feb 2026 15:21 (CET) :Het is al geplaatst [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 11:57 (CET) == MarrtyFDGUYT == [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/MarrtyFDGUYT]] zou u die gebruiker kunnen blokkeren, want hij heeft al twee onzinpagina’s aangemaakt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:01 (CET) :Hij heeft al wel zijn excuses aan mij aangeboden, dus nu twijfel ik of blokkeren nog nodig is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) ::Blokkeren is pas een optie als overleg niet werkt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 23:37 (CET) == Onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen en nieuwe pagina’s aanmaken zonder [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog/klad]] te gebruiken == Hallo MarcoSwart zou ik ook nog mijn onvolledige pagina’s aan mogen vullen en nieuwe pagina’s aan mogen maken zonder mijn kladpagina te gebruiken [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 17:50 (CET) :Natuurlijk, het was alleen maar bedoeld als een hulpmiddel. Als je prettiger werkt op een andere manier is dat ook goed zolang het resultaat maar in orde is. Ik weet natuurlijk niet hoe jij het maken van pagina's aanpakt en of we nog mogelijkheden hebben dat te stroomlijnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 18:45 (CET) == heteropalindroom == Dit is de enige bron die ik kan vinden https://gerard-vermeersch.be/droomoord-2022/. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 19:29 (CET) :Die vindplaats heb ik vast toegevoegd aan de beschrijving. Het lijkt me best mogelijk dat we er de komende jaren nog twee gaan tegenkomen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:45 (CET) ::Die had ik ook nog in mijn hoofd als die goed is https://taaleidoscoop.nl/blog/moordnilap/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 21:47 (CET) :::Dat is een beetje een twijfelgeval: het is duidelijk een tekst waarin de auteur verschillende benamingen beschrijft waarvan hij veronderstelt dat die bij de lezers nog niet bekend zijn, vermoedelijk omdat ze geen van alle echt gangbaar zijn. Het aardige van je eerste vondst is dat het woord daarin gewoon wordt gebruikt. Dat is een overtuigender bewijs dan louter de bewering dat een woord in gebruik is; vooral als daarvoor geen bronnen worden aangegeven of verwezen wordt naar bronnen die ook niet verder komen dan alleen die bewering. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:02 (CET) :::Wat wel van belang is, is dat de taalkundigen van het IvdNT deze vindplaats voldoende vinden om het woord [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/article/heteropalindroom als neologisme] te signaleren. Zoals de makers van het WNW zelf aangeven, omvat hun bestand ook eendagsvliegen die niet genoeg in gebruik komen om in de woordenboeken te belanden, maar ook in hun ogen is het dus zeker een protologisme. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:15 (CET) ::::Nu begin in te twijfelen of het een protologisme is, omdat het woord in het neologismenwoordenboek staat. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:17 (CET) :::::Het WNW hanteert bewust [https://neologismen.ivdnt.org/about#over-het-wnw ruimere criteria voor opname] dan WikiWoordenboek. Daardoor bevat het ook protologismen, die uiteindelijk niet gangbaar genoeg blijken voor opname in een woordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:26 (CET) ::::::Bestaan er ook protologismenwoordenboeken? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:36 (CET) :::::::Niet dat ik weet. Wat niet zo vreemd is, want de term "protologisme" is zelf een protologisme. Maar een neologismenwoordenboek met ruime criteria voor opname wordt vanzelf ook een protologismenwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 feb 2026 22:41 (CET) == [[dystopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Thomas Medicus, Nehmen Sie Platz, 2016.webp|deze]] zitbank, een vrije en voor iedereen toegankelijke openbare ruimte symboliserend, in een glazen kooi een geschikt voorbeeld kan zijn? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 feb 2026 15:32 (CET) :Het is een intrigerend beeld, maar voor mijn gevoel is een dystopie toch iets anders, dat zich net als zijn tegenhanger "utopie" niet zo eenvoudig in één afbeelding laat vangen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 feb 2026 20:34 (CET) == Tijdelijke pauze op WikiWoordenboek == Hallo MarcoSwart is het goed als ik even een paar dagen niet actief ben op WikiWoordenboek? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 16:28 (CET) :Iedereen op WikiWoordenboek is vrijwilliger en maakt dus zelf uit hoeveel tijd hij daaraan besteedt. Als je met anderen afstemt om dingen op een bepaald moment te doen is het uiteraard zaak je daaraan te houden, maar bij mijn weten heb je dat niet gedaan. Dus nu je al maanden een hoop lemma's hebt aangemaakt, gun ik je zeker een paar dagen om iets anders te doen. Ik hoop natuurlijk wel dat je gauw weer terugkomt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 feb 2026 20:43 (CET) == Oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zou het fijn vinden als wij een oplossing bedenken voor mijn gedrag, met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 28 feb 2026 23:47 (CET) :Uiteraard denk ik graag met je mee, maar het zou me helpen als je me iets meer kunt vertellen over de achtergronden. Ik kan me voorstellen dat een openbare pagina daarvoor toch wat lastig is. Je kunt mij ook per mail bereiken via ''Deze gebruiker e-mailen'' in het menu rechtsboven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:40 (CET) ::Ik wil iets vragen aan een andere gebruiker, maar ik durf dat niet te doen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Wat maakt dat je het niet durft? Ligt het vooral aan de vraag of meer aan de persoon? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:15 (CET) ::::Omdat ik al heel vaak dezelfde vraag aan dezelfde persoon hebt gesteld. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:17 (CET) :::::Heb je daar geen antwoord op gekregen, was het antwoord niet voldoende duidelijk of volledig of ben je het niet eens met het antwoord? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:27 (CET) ::::::Ik ben het ook een beetje niet eens met het antwoord, maar er is wel antwoord op gegeven [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:29 (CET) :::::::Wil je misschien niet louter een vraag stellen, maar proberen iemands opvatting wat te veranderen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:32 (CET) ::::::::Ga ik proberen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:33 (CET) :::::::::Tip: als je iemands opvatting wil veranderen, kun je het beste beginnen met ervoor te zorgen dat je die opvatting goed begrijpt. Je kunt dan beter zien waar het meningsverschil zit en over welke dingen je het wel eens bent. Een argumentatie die werkt, begint meestal bij de dingen waar je het over eens bent en probeert dan stapsgewijs het verschil te overbruggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:50 (CET) == [[smishing]], [[phishing]] en [[vishing]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, het lijstje werd ondertussen uitgebreid... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 18:32 (CET) :En WikiWoordenboek ook. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:30 (CET) ::Dankjewel MarcoSwart, beangstigend vind ik dit allemaal. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == IPA-perikelen (4) == Hallo Marco, Ik ben op dit moment IPA's aan het overzetten van de Taalunie naar het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Dit gaat op een laag pitje met ongeveer 2.000 lemma's die 's nachts worden aangepast.<br> Met dit tempo gaat dit nog enige weken duren (ik ben nu pas bij [[familiezin]]).<br> Nu kreeg ik een bericht op mijn overlegpagina geplaatst van Gebruiker:Arx - 83 wat ik hieronder kopieer:<br><br> Het Unicode-karakter 02C8 (ˈ) kopieer ik nu veelal. Waarschijnlijk beschouw je dat als gehannes?<br> Taalunie lijkt helaas nog steeds, bij fonemische weergave, het karakter ' te gebruiken in plaats van een IPA ˈ (UNICODE 02C8). Is er bij WikiWoordenboek een eenvoudige mogelijkheid om overal waar de specifieke IPA met een ' voor komt, dit karakter te vervangen door een IPA ˈ (Unicode 02C8)?<br> Op 20 feb 2026 zag ik een honderdtal woorden met een ongeldig teken bij IPA weergave in het Nederlands. Ik heb de indruk dat er duizenden zijn bijgekomen en vermoed dat meesten de ' als oorzakelijk verband hebben.<br> Pas eind vorig jaar besefte ik dat ' niet correct was bij IPA-notatie, na een correctie van MarcoSwart (dank hiervoor en voor veel meer). Na het bekijken van de eerdere aangehaalde subpagina bij dit onderwerp zie ik dat er blijkbaar nog meer verschillen zijn tussen fonemische weergave van de Taalunie en de IPA-notatie. Misschien vraag ik best Taalunie eens waarom dat zo is.<br> (einde bericht)<br><br> Volgens mij gaat het om een karakter dat IK niet heb veranderd.<br> Er wordt een karakter met ASCII-waarde van 39 gebruikt i.p.v. 712 waarvan Gebruiker:Arx - 83 zegt dat dat de correcte waarde zou moeten zijn. Voor mij is het heel simpel vanaf nu de waarde 39 te vervangen door 712.<br> In een later stadium kan ik dan aanpassingen doen in het Wikiwoordenboek.<br> Wat zeg jij hiervan?<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 09:27 (CET) :Dit is een van de aanpassingen waar we het bij de eerdere overzetting van woordenlijst.org naar WikiWoordenboek over hebben gehad. Gebruiker Arx-83 heeft gewoon gelijk: woordenlijst.org gebruikt niet de specifieke code voor dit symbool, maar gebruikt de apostrof als een soort benadering. Het is dus zeker een verbetering om deze vervanging standaard door te voeren. Ik zal later vandaag even nagaan of er meer van dit soort overzettingsproblemen zijn. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 11:36 (CET) ::{{ping|Kvdrgeus}}, in de toevoegingen uit woordenlijst.org zitten naast het verkeerde teken voor de klemtoon nog meer afwijkingen van de standaard en soms ook regelrechte fouten. Dit is ten opzichte van de vorige reeks toevoegingen niet echt veranderd. Als je vanuit een bestand werkt, is het vermoedelijk beter om dat eerst te schonen. Omdat het om enkele tientallen checks gaat, is het praktischer om die op een zo groot mogelijk woordenbestand ineens uit te voeren, want per 2000 gaat dit nodeloos veel tijd kosten. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) :::OK, ik zet het overnemen van de IPA's vanuit de Taalunie even stop... [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 23:36 (CET) ::::Is er een totaalbestand met ingevoerde en/of nog in te voeren IPA-weergaves? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 08:00 (CET) :::::Ik ben nog bezig het totaalbestand IPA's van de Taalunie op te bouwen. Het is namelijk zo dat deze gegevens pas recentelijk door hen op woordenlijst.org zijn aangebracht. :::::In mijn 'oude' versie van de Taalunie-gegevens ontbraken de meesten nog. :::::Ik ben ze dus heel langzaam aan het binnenhalen (wij willen geen overlast veroorzaken) :::::en ben nu pas ongeveer tot [[helikopter]] gekomen. :::::Als je wilt, kun je dit bestand krijgen. (het zijn 41.889 items) :::::Van de IPA's die in het Wikiwoordenboek aanwezig zijn, blijken er volgens mijn gegevens 18.301 te zijn die voor conversie in aanmerking komen vanwege de problematiek met de ' [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 11:24 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking met Marcel coenders == Beste MarcoSwart, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu Marcel coenders mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer aanvult heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:25 (CET) :Heb je het niet naar je zin omdat je het lastig vindt om zelf de pagina's vollediger te maken of gaat het je om het onderlinge contact? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:44 (CET) ::Dat ook inderdaad en ook omdat hij zo behulpzaam was, maar korte reacties zoals bijvoorbeeld alleen nee kwetst mij ook heel erg zoals Marcel coenders reageerde. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::Ik zie dat jullie vrij uitvoerig van gedachten hebben gewisseld over methoden, waarmee je zelf je lemma's vollediger zou kunnen maken. De aanpak van Marcel coenders is door jarenlang verfijnen niet zo eenvoudig uit te leggen, dus ik kan me voorstellen dat je daar niet zo gemakkelijk mee aan de slag kan. Omgekeerd kan ik me ook voorstellen dat het voor hem naar verhouding veel werk is om op een andere manier te moeten werken. Mijn eigen ervaring is dat het aanvullen van een onvolledig lemma vaak meer werk is dan het maken van een helemaal nieuw lemma, als je voor dat laatste eenmaaal een vlotte methode hebt gevonden. :::Dat wil niet zeggen dat anderen niets willen doen om je lemma's vollediger te maken. Ik vermoed dat Marcel coenders zal blijven zorgen voor een geluidsbestand als dat er nog niet is. En als je dat fijn vindt, wil ik best een IPA-weergave van de uitspraak toevoegen of een specifieke taalkundige moeilijkheid helpen oplossen. Maar informatie die vrij gemakkelijk op of via woordenlijst.org is te vinden zou een ervaren gebruiker eigenlijk altijd zelf moeten kunnen toevoegen. Volgens mij was je daar al heel goed mee bezig. Maar misschien kijk je daar zelf anders tegenaan. :::Je liet mij weten dat je liever niet via een kladpagina meer uitgebreide lemma's wil aanmaken. Dat vind ik prima, omdat ik weet dat iedereen een eigen manier van werken heeft. Ik wil best uitgaan van de manier waarop jij nu volledige lemma's maakt en met jou nagaan of er manieren zijn om die te stroomlijnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:26 (CET) ::::Marcel coenders voegt ook nog wel eens synoniemen toe en maakt ze (vaak) ook aan [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:29 (CET) :::::Ik weet niet hoe dat met Marcel is, maar zelf doe ik dat ook vaak als ik een nieuw of bestaand lemma tegenkom en ik een of meer synoniemen weet die nog ontbreken. De kans lijkt me groot dat als je goede basislemma's maakt, dat soort aanvullingen gewoon zal blijven plaatsvinden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:37 (CET) ::::::Mooi opgelost 🙌 [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[zandstorm]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik vroeg me af of een uitbreiding met [[:afbeelding:Tempête de poussière sur Niamey 01.jpg|"Een '''zandstorm''' boven]] {{w|nl|Niamey|Niamey}}, Niger" zinvol zou zijn. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:06 (CET) :Ja, dat geeft de lezer weer een heel ander perspectief. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2026 07:57 (CET) == [[passagieren]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, vind je [[:afbeelding:Torpedovlootjager Nepal met Lord Fraser , aan wal gaan, Bestanddeelnr 903-9547.jpg|deze]] afbeelding geschikt? Een eventuele beschrijving leg ik graag in jouw handen. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:14 (CET) :Of vind je [[:afbeelding:US Navy 030502-N-9288T-008 Sailors assigned to USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) disembark upon the ship's arrival at NAS North Island.jpg|dit]] geschikter? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::Bij "passagieren" gaat het om een tussenstop op een langere reis. Dat is nog niet zo eenvoudig in een beeld uit te drukken. De eerste foto lijkt me eerder "De Britse '''admiraal''' {{w|nl|Bruce Fraser|Fraser}} gaat aan wal in 1950." De tweede lijkt me: "Amerikaanse '''matrozen''' zijn blij dat ze weer terug zijn in hun thuishaven San Diego." Aan de boeketten kun je zien dat ze waarschijnlijk niet gaan passagieren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 11:54 (CET) == Spelfouten op deze pagina == Hallo MarcoSwart voor mijn gevoel staan er spelfouten op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] op wikiwoordenboek, want op woordenlijst.org is de officiële spelling radio-uitzending, maar op pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Lijst 2015 Spellingwet/51]] staat radiouitzending. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 21:16 (CET) :Dank voor de tip. Bij het maken van Spellingbesluit is het meerdere keren misgegaan met de koppeltekens. We hadden dat al gemarkeerd bij een reeks woorden als interimmer en splitlevel, ik heb dat nu ook bij enkele woorden met radio- gedaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 10:31 (CET) == [[paardenkastanje]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van een toevoeging: [[:afbeelding:Gebarsten bolster van een paardenkastanje (Aesculus) 13-10-2022 (d.j.b.) 02.jpg|"Gebarsten bolster van een '''paardenkastanje'''"]]N [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 06:04 (CET) :Dat laat goed zien dat het woord zowel voor de boom als de vrucht wordt gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) == [[bedwants]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, ik had de beschrijving uitgebreid, maar ik vroeg me af of [[:afbeelding:BedBugwithMeasure.jpg|deze]] afbeelding zinvol is (omdat de grootte wordt weergegeven). Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :Het voegt informatie toe, maar voor de opmaak zou ik dan wel een gallery gebruiken. Beide afbeeldingen hebben dan trouwens betrekking op de specifiekere betekenis 1.1; misschien is het nuttig om te laten zien dat de term taxonomisch ook gebruikt wordt voor bepaalde bloedzuigertjes op andere warmbloedige wezens. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:44 (CET) == [[weervisserij]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou [[:afbeelding:Fish Trap BKG.png|dit]] een geschikt voorbeeld kunnen zijn? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 10:13 (CET) :Eerlijk gezegd snap ik niet goed hoe de constructie op het plaatje zou moeten werken. Wat denk je van [[:File:Weervisserij Oosterschelde.jpg|deze foto]], ook als verwijzing naar heus [https://visserij.nl/2025/01/16/van-dort-gaat-nog-een-seizoen-door-met-de-weervisserij/ Nederlands immaterieel erfgoed]? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:56 (CET) ::Ik snap ook niet hoe dat zou moeten werken {{smiley}}, jouw plaatje is best geschikt. Het toevoegen incl. beschrijving leg ik dan weer liever in ''capabele'' handen. Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:07 (CET) == [[kappersstoelen]] == Eentje uit de oude doos misschien? [[:afbeelding:COLLECTIE TROPENMUSEUM Een kapsalon te Surabaya Java TMnr 10002829.jpg|"'''Kapperstoelen''' in een kapsalon te Surabaya"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 12:55 (CET) :Op deze foto was het denkelijk nog Soerabaja, maar ter illustratie van het woord is de nu gangbare naam vermoedelijk nuttiger. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:01 (CET) == [[libelle]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Swarthy sprite 2015 10 10 4841.jpg|"Een '''libelle''' (''Pseudagrion hamoni'') in Ngwenya Lodge in]] {{w|nl|Mpumalanga|Mpumalanga}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:33 (CET) :Voor het meervoud had ik [[:afbeelding:Nature Love Libellen.jpg|"Parende '''libellen''']]" (enfin, daar lijkt het alleszins wel op) :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 6 mrt 2026 18:37 (CET) ::Beide afbeeldingen lijken me geschikt, de tweede kun je preciezer omschrijven als "Twee parende '''libellen''' vormen een [[paringsrad]] met de vorm van een hartje." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:15 (CET) == [[schotelantennes]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zouden deze [[:afbeelding:CSIRO ScienceImage 3881 Five Antennas at Narrabri.jpg|"Vijf '''schotelantennes''' van de]] {{w|nl|Australia Telescope Compact Array|Australia Telescope Compact Array}}" geschikt kunnen zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 mrt 2026 06:59 (CET) :Het zou kunnen, hoewel we tegenwoordig bij een schotelantenne meestal aan iets kleiners denken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:30 (CET) ::Inderdaad, zelfs tot in [[:afbeelding:A grass-thatched home.jpg|Oeganda]]... [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 14:45 (CET) :::Misschien [[:File:Tamsweg Woelting 34 Standlhof 2014-004.jpg|"Een '''schotelantenne''' aan een boerderij in]] {{w|nl|Tamsweg (gemeente)|Tamsweg}}"? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 15:39 (CET) ::::Die laatste lijkt me inderdaad een duidelijk voorbeeld. Er is wel iets voor te zeggen om zowel versies uit de wetenschap als de meer alledaagse communicatie te laten zien. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[paardenvijg]] == [[:afbeelding:Äppelndes Pferd.JPG|Hier]] is duidelijk te zien wat er gebeurt bij het ''produceren'' van een paardenvijg, en met [[:afbeelding:Pferdeapfel 01 ies.jpg|dit]] als eindresultaat. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 12:43 (CET) :Vooral de tweede lijkt me een prima illustratie. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 mrt 2026 13:34 (CET) == [[terp]] en/of [[vluchtheuvel]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, hier dacht ik bv. aan [[:afbeelding:Hallig Südfall Strandflieder.jpg|[1] Een '''vluchtheuvel''' (ook wel '''terp''') in]] {{w|nl|Südfall|Südfall}}." [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 06:48 (CET) :Dit lijkt me tegenwoordig vooral een terp. Anders dan de bewoners van die terp zijn er tegenwoordig op Südfall geen mensen of vee meer die bij hoogwater hierheen zullen uitwijken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) == [[voelsprieten]] == Hier had ik aan [[:afbeelding:Insect antennae comparison.jpg|"Verschillende soorten '''voelsprieten'''"]] gedacht [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 10:54 (CET) :Dat is inderdaad een mooi overzicht. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 11:46 (CET) ::Voor [[voelspriet]] dacht ik misschien aan een combinatie van [[:afbeelding:Trachpyteris picta front.JPG|"Een ''Trachypteris''"]] met [[:File:Trachypteris picta antenna.jpg|"Een '''voelspriet''' van de ''Trachypteris''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 12:25 (CET) :::De tweede afbeelding is uitstekend (pun intended). Ik zou wel de complete naam ''Trachypteris picta'' gebruiken. Bij de eerste is het jammer dat juist de voelsprieten niet in focus zijn. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::[[:afbeelding:Trachypteris picta up2.JPG|beter]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:03 (CET) ::::Zeker! [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:08 (CET) == Is choopie een protologisme? == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft al een tijdje geleden choopie naar de protologismen verplaatst, maar volgens u is het een eigennaam zou u even kunnen kijken naar de beste oplossing? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:16 (CET) :Mijn idee was om over een tijdje nog eens na te gaan of er dan wel vindplaatsen zijn. Afhankelijk daarvan kan de verwijderdiscussie dan worden afgerond. Is er een reden om haast te maken met deze discussie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:54 (CET) ::Hoe lang duurt dat of is dat onbekend? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 17:55 (CET) :::Dat laat zich op dit moment niet voorspellen. Het is goed te bedenken dat er in WikiWoordenboek nog vele duizenden punten zijn die verbeterd moeten worden. Het kan voorkomen dat een minder storende kwestie wat langer blijft liggen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 22:35 (CET) == [[brandmanager]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, een andere betekenis [https://www.tijd.be/politiek-economie/belgie/federaal/brandmanager-conner-rousseau-op-payroll-van-kamer-toegestaan-maar-het-wringt/10651812.html Brandmanager Conner Rousseau op payroll van Kamer: toegestaan, maar het wringt] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:18 (CET) :Oei oei, dat ging goed fout. Weet je raaad? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 mrt 2026 06:19 (CET) ::Dit lijkt me niet echt een andere betekenis. Bekende personen kunnen die bekendheid te gelde maken, waarbij het tegenwoordig niet ongewoon is dat ze hun naam en imago als een commercieel merk behandelen. In het artikel wordt dan ook gesproken over een "personal brandmanager" en ik denk daar eigenlijk "personalbrandmanager" is bedoeld. In goed Nederlands heet zo iemand een [[mannetjesmaker]]. == [[thuiswerken]] of [[telewerken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou dit [[:afbeelding:Mike Thompson - 4.16.20.jpg|Ook politici doen (soms) aan '''telewerken''']] of zou dit thuiswerken zijn? Hoe zou je [[:afbeelding:Man remote working at a laptop inside a camper van.jpg|dit]] omschrijven in het Nederlands. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 15:48 (CET) :Politici waren als het goed is altijd al flexibel in de plek waar ze hun werk deden, dus ik zou een telefoongesprek met video niet direct als typisch telewerken of thuiswerken aanmerken. Maar wel: "Een '''laptopstandaard''' komt van pas bij [[videobellen]]." Op de tweede foto kun je uit het beeldscherm niet opmaken of er wel gewerkt wordt. Het veilige onderschrift lijkt me "Interieur van een '''kampeerauto''', met tafeltje waarop de laptop gebruikt kan worden." == [[laptopnomade]] == Verwoordt [[:afbeelding:Camper van parked by the side of the road with man working on a laptop.jpg|"Deze man is een '''laptopnomade'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:16 (CET) :Dat is niet echt uit de foto af te leiden. Het kan ook gewoon een vakantieganger zijn die zijn Facebook bijwerkt. De term is lastig in een plaatje te vangen, omdat je aan de ene kant moet kunnen zien dat de computer echt voor werk wordt gebruikt en tegelijk dat iemand dat op tal van plaatsen doet. Je zou het wel kunnen gebruiken als "Exterieur van een '''kampeerauto'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) == [[ramen]] [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bert Verhoeff aan het ramen lappen, Bestanddeelnr 926-2372.jpg|"Bart Verhoeff tijdens ramen lappen (1973)"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 11:32 (CET) :Iets voor [[ramen lappen]]? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 12:08 (CET) == [[lappen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, [[:afbeelding:Childhood Joy.jpg|"Kinderen spelen op gekleurde '''lappen''' stof"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 18:39 (CET) :Dat ziet er vrolijk uit. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) == [[vaatdoek]], [[poetslap]], [[dweil]] == The question is: [[:afbeelding:Water running from kitchen tap.jpg|which]] is [[:afbeelding:Vaatdoek.jpg|which]] and [[:afbeelding:Feudel 01.jpg|which]] {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 06:31 (CET) :De eerste is een [[duizenddingendoekje]]. Het tweede is een lastig te beschrijven lapje: ik hoop eigenlijk dat het niet als vaatdoek wordt gebruikt. Een echte vaatdoek ziet er in ieder geval anders uit en voor een poetslap is het aanrecht een wat verwarrende context. De derde is wel een echte [[dweil]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 13:09 (CET) ::Inderdaad, bij de tweede afbeelding ''vergeht einem den Appetit''. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 14:03 (CET) == [[:Commons:Category:Robotic dogs|robothond]] == Moet die dan [[:afbeelding:SZ 深圳 Shenzhen 福田 Futian 華強北 Huaqiang North pink 汪星人租賃 robotic dog demo February 2025 R12S 05.jpg|aan de lijn]]? {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:34 (CET) :Een [[lijn|leiband]] voor deze [[:afbeelding:Een man staat in de tuin van het Paleis voor Volksvlijt, waar een hondententoonstelling werd, SFA022806090.jpg|"12. Honden aan de '''lijn''' voor een hondententoonstelling (1912)"]] hebben we alvast. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 07:43 (CET) ::We hebben in ieder geval een plekje voor de [[robothond]]. Op de foto uit 1912 zijn de honden eigenlijk aan de ketting, daarom weet ik niet of het wel zo'n typisch voorbeeld van een ''leiband'' of ''lijn'' is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:44 (CET) :::Bedankt voor ''the vigilant eye'', enne... ik moet een nieuwe [[:afbeelding:2016-366-44 Through the Specs Not So Clearly (24983011436).jpg|bril]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 06:40 (CET) == [[viervoeter]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Zebra sideview.jpg|"Een zebra is een '''viervoeter'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 09:52 (CET) :Dat lijkt me zeker passen bij de eerste betekenis. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:46 (CET) == [[wassen]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, "wassen", zoals hier: [[:afbeelding:1004freek4.jpg|Freek Vonk bestudeert het nagebootste litteken van zijn haaienbeet op zijn '''wassen''' beeld in Madame Tussauds Amsterdam (2024).]] hoort dit daar? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 17:11 (CET) :Dat hangt natuurlijk een beetje af van waar "dit" en "daar" op duiden. Maar je kunt de foto zeker toevoegen onder het kopje "Bijvoeglijk naamwoord" op [[wassen]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mrt 2026 22:40 (CET) == snorredoos versus snorrendoos == Hoi MarcoSwart de officiële spelling is volgens mij echt snorrendoos, maar op de pagina [[snor]] staat het bij de afgeleide begrippen zonder tussen-n (snorredoos). Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 09:08 (CET) :Je hebt naar mijn idee gelijk. Ik vermoed dat het voor 1996 wel zo kon worden gespeld, maar ik heb daar geen vindplaatsen voor gevonden. Er was met de afgeleide begrippen op "snor" wel meer niet snor, dus ik de vrijheid genomen je bevinding met een aantal andere correcties door te voeren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 mrt 2026 20:57 (CET) == [[stadsduct]] == Hallo MarcoSwart is stadsduct wel gangbaar nederlands, want u zei een keer in de kroeg dat het geen gangbaar Nederlands is. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:01 (CET) :In de afgelopen 10 jaar is het woord kennelijk gangbaarder geworden, het staat nu op [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=stadsduct woordenlijst.org]. Wat in die periode ook duidelijker is geworden is dat -duct geen zuiver achtervoegsel is, maar dat het meer gaat om variaties op [[viaduct]], waarbij het Latijnse {{Q|via|lat}} bij voorkeur wordt vervangen door een andere klassiek klinkende term, [[stadsduct]] is het enige voorbeeld waar het eerste deel gewoon Nederlands is, naast [[avioduct]], [[cerviduct]], [[ecoduct]], [[aqua-ecoduct]], [[ecoveloduct]], [[naviduct]] en [[oviduct]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:39 (CET) ::Is spoorduct nog steeds niet gangbaar genoeg? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:42 (CET) :::Op woordenlijst.org vind ik [[spoorviaduct]], [[spoorwegviaduct]] en [[treinviaduct]], maar (nog) geen spoorduct. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:50 (CET) ::::deze twee bronnen bevatten het woord spoorduct https://streekstadcentraal.nl/60159575-aanleg-spooronderdoorgang-zuidtangent-start-in-januari-voorbereidingen-al-in-volle-gang en https://www.fernweh.nu/in-weiselstein-kan-alles-2/ [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:53 (CET) :::::Het is 5 jaar terug verwijderd bij gebrek aan vindplaatsen, de laatstgenoemde link was toen de enige plek waar het woord buiten WikiWoordenboek werd gebruikt. Na de verwijdering bij ons is het ook bij Encyclo afgevoerd. Het lastige is dat wanneer een woord een tijdje op WikiWoordenboek staat, het alleen daardoor al eerder gebruikt zal worden. Het voorkomen van zo'n echokamer is precies de reden waarom we nieuwe woorden niet te snel moeten vermelden. Het is interessant om te zien dat het vorig jaar op een tweede plek opduikt, maar twee vindplaatsen is nog altijd te weinig. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:11 (CET) ::::::Misschien kunnen we het als Protologisme toevoegen, want er zijn wel twee vindplaatsen. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:12 (CET) :::::::Dat kan. Maar mijn prioriteit zou liggen bij de 7 rode links, die kennelijk wel in voldoende mate voorkomen in het corpus dat de Taalunie gebruikt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 20:31 (CET) == IPA (5) == Hallo Marco, Allereerst: de Taalunie heeft als woordafbreking van lambruscootje [lam·bru·sco·tje] maar bij het basiswoord<br> lambrusco [lam·brus·co]<br><br> Dat kan volgens mij niet kloppen, ik opteer voor [lam·brus·co·tje]<br><br> Verder ben ik ook weer even met de IPA bezig.<br> Bij de meeste woorden geldt (volgens mij) dat als een enkelvoud een IPA heeft, dat ik dan die van het meervoud, als dat meervoud eindigt op -s of -'s, kan samenstellen uit de IPA van het enkelvoud uitgebreid met de letter -s<br> Hoe gaat dit echter bij restaurant: /rɛsto'rɑ͂/<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) :Persoonlijk ben ik het met je eens over de lambrusco. Volgens de Technische Handleiding volgen we bij afbreking van vreemde woorden de regels voor inheemse woorden. Maar ik zal het voor alle zekerheid ook voorleggen aan de Taalunie. Zolang we geen andersluidende reactie krijgen, kunnen we het beste jouw voorstel volgen. :Bij restaurants gaat dit in wezen precies hetzelfde: /rɛsto'rɑ͂ː/ wordt /rɛsto'rɑ͂ːs/. Het is wel belangrijk dat zowel in enkel- als meervoud het verlengingssymbool ː (ondanks de gelijkenis ''niet'' hetzelfde als de dubbele punt :) blijft staan. Anders dan bij het hoofdaccent gebruikt woordenlijst.org hier wel het correcte symbool. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 12:42 (CET) ::Ik heb toch maar weer een vergelijking uitgevoerd van ipa's van meervouden van het Wikiwoordenboek die op -s of -'s eindigen met die van hun enkelvoud. ::Nadat ik de meest evidente fouten heb aangepast, heb ik nu een lijst verschillen overgehouden die jij mogelijk zou willen bekijken. ::De lijst staat op: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip60 ::Het valt me op dat soms ter vorming van de meervoud-ipa ook s wordt toegevoegd aan die van het enkelvoud als dat eindigt op (n). ::Is het echt zo dat sommigen die n in het meervoud niet uitspreken of is het een fout? ::Hoe dan ook ik ga er van uit dat de haakjes rond de n moeten verdwijnen! <table style="padding-left: 4em;"> <tr><td>[[wegedoren]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)</td><td></td></tr> <tr><td>[[wegedorens]]</td><td>ˈweɣəˌdorə(n)s</td><td>???</td></tr> </table> ::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 13:23 (CET) :::Ik zal de lijst doornemen. :::De nadrukkelijke uitspraak is natuurlijk altijd met n, maar in lopende spraak kan de n ook wegvallen voor de meervouds-s. Als je het woord juist traditioneel uitspreekt, is de spelling zelfs "[[wegedoorn]]" met heel zwakke sjwa tussen r en n, in dat geval blijft de n ook in het meervoud hoorbaar. De haakjes horen daarom bij deze meervouden te blijven staan. Het ''Uitspraakwoordenboek'' vermeldt meerdere woorden op -ens met de IPA-weergave -ə(n)s. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 23:08 (CET) ::::Ik heb de lijst doorgenomen en bij 20 enkelvouden en 60 meervouden de IPA-weergave aangepast. Voor toekomstige controles zijn de volgende bevindingen misschien nog nuttig, omdat het om systematische afwijkingen gaat: ::::# zoals gezegd, bij de woorden met een enkelvoud op /-ə(n)/ is het meervoud met /-ə(n)s/ ; ::::# bij de (uitheemse) woorden die eindigen op een sisklank (/s/, /ʃ/ en vermoedelijk ook /z/ en /ʒ/) en toch een meervoud met -s hebben, wordt voor die s een sjwa ingevoegd, zodat je /-əs/ krijgt; ::::# soms hoort een specifieke uitspraak van het meervoud bij een specifieke uitspraak van het enkelvoud: dit vormde de grootste groep binnen de gemelde afwijkingen. ::::Ik kan me voorstellen dat je die laatste groep veiligheidshalve hebt meegenomen, omdat je die relatie niet meteen kunt zien. Op vrij veel van de betreffende lemma's wordt nu al het label {{Tl|heteroniem}} gebruikt. Als dat in de toekomst kan helpen bij het uitziften van echte fouten is het wellicht een idee om dat label stelselmatig toe te passen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 16:55 (CET) :::::Ik heb een overzicht gemaakt van de bijzondere gevallen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op /s/, /ʃ/, /z/ of /ʒ/ waarbij ik van alle enkelvoud-IPA's van de Taalunie die ik ken op deze wijze de meervoud-IPA heb 'berekend' :::::Allereerst heb ik geen items aangetroffen waarvan de enkelvoud-IPA eindigt op<br> /z/ of /ʒ/ :::::De lijst heb ik geplaatst op https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip61 :::::Als er een vraagteken achter de rij staat betekent dit dat dit woord geen IPA in het Wikiwoordenboek heeft. :::::Als er (klopt) staat is die er wel en ook gelijk aan de berekende. :::::Als er een verschil is, is die van het Wikiwoordenboek vermeld. :::::Als je naar de lijst zou willen kijken, kan ik na fiattering door jou de berekende IPA's bij de meervouden aanbrengen [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 11:17 (CET) ::::::De -z(j)-klank aan het eind van een woord is on-Nederlands en zou dus alleen kunnen voorkomen bij leenwoorden die bij het uitspreken niet worden vernederlandst. Het is niet vreemd dat we die niet of nauwelijks tegenkomen. ::::::Ik heb de lemma's van [[fleece]], [[mouche]] en [[userinterface]] zowel enkelvoud als meervoud aangepast. De overige verschillen komen door (systematische) afwijkingen bij woordenlijst.org. ::::::Voor zover ik heb kunnen nagaan is het meervoud in je lijst in alle gevallen correct gevormd, maar als ik naar de lijst kijk zie ik in de enkelvouden nog veel verbeterpunten die uiteraard ook het meervoud raken. Het is relatief veel werk om alle (tientallen) checks op dit relatief kleine bestand uit te voeren. Het is het efficiëntst om in een zo groot mogelijk bestand in één keer alle vereiste aanpassingen van woordenlijst.org naar de standaardweergave te doen. Als je nog een bestand hebt met de 18.000 woorden die je al had toegevoegd zou ik beide bestanden in één doorloop kunnen checken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 12:23 (CET) :::::::Ik kan een overzicht maken van alle woorden van de Taalunie die ik heb waarbij een ipa staat EN waarbij bij een reeds bestaand woord in het Wikiwoordenboek nog GEEN ipa voorkomt. :::::::Het gaat dan om 74.607 woorden waarbij 75.384 ipa's aanwezig zijn. :::::::Ik leid uit je verhaal af dat je mogelijk een geautomatiseerde aanpak van die woorden wilt uitvoeren. :::::::Het lijkt me gezien de grootte hiervan het handigst dit bestand maar per e-mail naar je toe te sturen. :::::::Ik zal dan dit bestand bewaren tot jij de gewenste veranderingen hebt aangebracht. :::::::Als dat klaar is, kan ik alles wat niet verandert is automatisch aanbrengen. :::::::Om makkelijk te starten zal ik twee bestanden sturen: :::::::Het eerste bevat alleen woorden waarvan maar één ipa bij de Taalunie staat. :::::::Als dat allemaal is afgewerkt kan ik dan later de gevallen aanpakken waarbij er meerdere staan. :::::::In dat geval zal ik indien mogelijk ook nog een conversie toepassen: :::::::Taalunie: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntən/ /driˈdeprɪntə/ :::::::Wikiwoorden boek: :::::::3D-printen /driˈdeprɪntə(n)/ :::::::groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 11:37 (CET) ::::::::Dank voor het bestand. Ik ben begonnen met de conversies. Vergeleken met de vorige keer lijkt het erop dat ze op woordenlijst.org nu zelf wat strakker bewaken welke tekens ze gebruiken. De eenvoudige zoek-en-vervangconversies heb ik ondertussen uitgevoerd, maar ik zal naar verwachtig wel een paar weken zoet zijn met de aanpassingen die iets meer aandacht vragen. En er zitten ook nog altijd duidelijke menselijke fouten in, die soms ook al weer gecorrigeerd zijn op hun site. Ze willen dit najaar een nieuwe editie van het Groene Boekje uitbrengen; misschien proberen ze voor die tijd ook de uitspraak op orde te krijgen, maar dat is van mijn kant alleen een hypothese. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 17:25 (CET) :::::::::Ik had al de ' en de g geconverteerd naar de karakters die daarmee in de IPA overeenkomen. :::::::::Verder nog de volgende conversies: ::::::::: oʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʦ -> ts ::::::::: ʌʏ -> œy ::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɔu ::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɔu :::::::::Wat er dan nog overblijft aan onbekende karakters, kun je zien bij: ::::::::: https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus/wikip58 :::::::::[[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:06 (CET) ::::::::::Sommige van de schrijfwijzen op je pagina zijn al weer aangepast op woordenlijst.org. Zo is in WK- en EK-kwalificatieduel de yɥ al vervangen door yw. Bovenstaande conversies kun je nog verder verbeteren, want er zitten 4 schrijfwijzen voor dezelfde klank in: :::::::::: oʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɑʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ʌʊ -> ɑu :::::::::: ɔu -> ɑu ::::::::::Twee andere stukjes laaghangend fruit zijn :::::::::: ɛɪ -> ɛi :::::::::: θ -> t :::::::::::''Ik heb nog meegemaakt dat je in de les Engels moest oefenen om deze klank goed onder de knie te krijgen en als ik luister hoe Nederlanders het vandaag de dag uitspreken, denk ik dat het realistischer is om aan te nemen dat de Engelse th de weg van de Griekse en de Noordse th volgt. Als we het nodig vinden om Engelse woorden op te nemen in het Nederlands, laten we dat dan ook voor wat betreft de uitspraak doen. Ook het Uitspraakwoordenboek gebruikt t voor θ.'' :::::::::: Wat dan nog overblijft op jouw pagina, is de weergave van de neusklanken in Franse leenwoorden, waar woordenlijst.org afwijkende coderingen gebruikt en daar ook niet helemaal consistent in is, maar daar kom ik wel uit. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:25 (CET) :::::::::::Hallo MArcoSwart, {{Ping|Kvdrgeus}}, nieuwsgierig als ik ben... wat denken jullie van [[:Afbeelding:The Lambruscoes (3337864102).jpg|"De '''Lambrusco's'''"]] voor het mv. Voor het ev geef ik de voorkeur aan [[:Afbeelding:Glass of lambrusco (19545132502).jpg|"Een glas met '''Lambrusco'''"]] Cheers, op jullie gezondheid [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:47 (CET) == [[aardbeientaart]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Erdbeerkuchen 01.jpg|Een '''aardbeientaart''']]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 18 mrt 2026 15:35 (CET) :Het lijkt mij een zeer geschikte afbeelding. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:04 (CET) ::Voor jou dan liever een [[:afbeelding:Como Käsekuchen.jpg|"Een stukje '''kaastaart'''"]]? == Giacomo Prampolini == Hallo Marco, Hierbij een artikel dat je vast wel interesseert.<br> https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/17/italiaans-talenwonder-had-een-voorliefde-voor-de-nederlandse-en-vlaamse-literatuur-a4922299?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=clipboard&utm_campaign=share&utm_term=share-modal&gift_token=4922299~1774524652~cneT1X__TPCObTAA0Pibsg~8EMwD3eoAThUPk9QDAbI2hSSxFQL_SJzcbaFuCAPksg groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 12:33 (CET) == [[goedpraten]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, zou deze poster: [[:afbeelding:Niet wegkijken. Niet goedpraten. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is, Winschoten (2020) 02.jpg|"Niet '''goedpraten'''. Niet uitwissen. Niet apart zetten. Niet normaal maken wat niet normaal is]]" zinvol zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:20 (CET) :Als je niet weet wat "goedpraten" betekent, helpt deze afbeelding je niet veel verder. Maar als je wil weten wat een [[poster]] is... [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 16:34 (CET) == [[knelpunt]] == Hallo MarcoSwwart, denk je dat [[:afbeelding:Knelpunt.jpg|Een '''knelpunt''' in]] {{w|nl|Nagoya|Nagoya}} een geschikt voorbeeld is? Cheers. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 17:44 (CET) :Als het verkeer niet te druk is, hoeft dit geen knelpunt te zijn. Het lijkt me eerder "Een tijdelijke '''wegversmalling''' bij de uitvoering van werkzaamheden in {{w|nl|Nagoya|"}}." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2026 23:54 (CET) ::{{done}} :-)<br>Is [[:File:2013 Beneluxlaan, Heemskerk asfalteren in de regen.jpg|dit]] een geschikte afbeelding bij '''wegonderhoud'''? De beschrijving laat ik graag aan jou over. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 06:49 (CET) :::{{done}} Ik heb er maar (het begin van) een gallery van gemaakt. 👷 --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:09 (CET) ::::Thanks. :-) Zou [[:afbeelding:HUA-153384-Afbeelding van een baanwerker van de afdeling Wegonderhoud van de N.S. met een kraagschroefmachine op het spoor nabij Driebergen.jpg|dit]] ook onder wegonderhoud vallen? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:27 (CET) :::::Misschien in een heel ruime opvatting, maar dit is toch vooral "Een '''baanwerker''' bedient een machine bij onderhoud aan het spoor nabij {{w|nl|Driebergen|"}} in 1970." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:46 (CET) ::::::[[:afbeelding:Burgemeester Pop is druk in de weer met een trilplaat. hij gaf hiermee het startsein voor de herbestrating van de Grote Markt. NL-HlmNHA 54037062.JPG|Vlijtige burgemeesters hebben jullie in Nederland]]. Benieuwd hoe lang hij het volhield. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:30 (CET) :::::::Ach, dit is ook alweer bijna 30 jaar geleden... ::::::::Ja, toen waren ze nog vlijtig, die burgemeesters :-). Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:2018 wird die Turmstraße mit zum Teil gesägten und geflammten Quarzitsteinen gepflastert.jpg|deze afbeelding]] voor de gallery bij het [[wegonderhoud]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:52 (CET) ::::::::Dat lijkt me een hele degelijke. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:29 (CET) == [[kasseilegger]] == Dat wordt volgens mij een '''knelpuntberoep'''. Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Cobblestone paving.jpg|"Een '''kasseilegger''' in]] {{w|nl|Vence|Vence}}" [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 12:49 (CET) :Die blijft welkom! --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 13:40 (CET) == [[boekweit]] == Wat dank je van een gallery met [[:afbeelding:Frauenstein Pfannhof Spitz Buchweizenfeld 14082017 0347.jpg|"Van het veld"]] [[:afbeelding:Fagopyrum гречка.jpg|"naar de grutten"]], [[:afbeelding:Buckwheat Flour (4107890675).jpg|"tot het gemalen '''boekweit''']] en [[:afbeelding:Pains biologiques sans gluten quinoa sarrasin teff.JPG|Verschillende broden van '''boekweit''']] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 16:35 (CET) :De eerste drie lijken me prima. Bij de derde aarzel ik om twee redenen: brood is gewoon iets anders dan boekweit en twee van deze drie broden zijn niet uit boekweit gemaakt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 20:59 (CET) ::Zal wel niets te maken hebben met Friese [[:fy:w:Grutte Pier|Grutte Pier]] :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:33 (CET) == [[vegetarische]] == Vin je [[:Afbeelding:Terrine aux trois légumes sur son lit de mâche et vinaigrette au paprika doux.JPG|"Een '''vegetarische''' terrine geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje"]] eer geschikt uitzien? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:20 (CET) :Ik zou eerder kiezen voor "2. Een '''terrine''' uit verschillende groentes, geserveerd met veldsla en een broodje." Bij een echt vegetarisch gerecht zijn de ingrediënten zo gekozen dat je zonder vlees toch de benodigde voedingsstoffen in goede verhoudingen binnenkrijgt en daar ben ik in dit geval nog niet zo zeker van. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 21:23 (CET) ::Hartstikke bedankt voor deze nuttige info. Het is inderdaad best mogelijk dat de gelatine in het gerecht niet "vegetarisch" is. Persoonlijk heb ik ook geen ervaring met de kunst van vegetarische voeding. Maar ik vind het best wel lekker. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 14:20 (CET) == [[veldsla]] == [[:afbeelding:Ackersalat02.jpg|"Een bord '''veldsla'''"]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 22 mrt 2026 18:23 (CET) :Dat ziet er duidelijk uit. == vegetarisme == Voortbordurend op het Nederlandstalige lemma, zou [[:afbeelding:K9093-1 (8453554475).jpg|zoals deze]] "groente, fruit, zuivel en peulvruchten spelen een belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''." mogelijk zijn? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 15:18 (CET) :Een voedingswijze is op zichzelf een abstract begrip, maar ik denk dat dit plaatje met onderschrift wel meerwaarde heeft, hoewel de granen hier nog ontbreken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:10 (CET) ::Ik voegde de afbeelding toe maar, inderdaad: [[:afbeelding:Various grains.jpg|"Plantaardige ijzerbronnen in volkorengranen, noten en zaden spelen eveneens even belangrijke rol in het '''vegetarisme'''."]] als 2de afbeelding? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 15:10 (CET) :::Het huidige plaatje met onderschrift lijkt me op zichzelf voldoende. De nieuw afbeelding zou heel mooi zijn als "2. Veel menselijk voedsel wordt gemaakt uit '''graan'''. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 16:48 (CET) == [[maaltijdsalade]] == Wat dacht je van een extra [[:afbeelding:Mackerel and apple salad (17146141815).jpg|"Een '''maaltijdsalade''' met makreel en appelen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 17:36 (CET) :Waarom niet "2. Een maaltijdsalade met '''makreel'''." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:18 (CET) == Gebruiker Vuurregenboog zit voor de tweede keer in de problemen == Hallo MarcoSwart ik zie dat er weer iets met Vuurregenboog aan de hand is, want hij gebruikt weer het woord kanker op zijn overlegpagina, zou u hier een oplossing voor willen bedenken en ervoor zorgen dat hij dit nooit meer doet? Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Lekkereten|Lekkereten]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lekkereten|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 20:55 (CET) :Op dit moment lijkt enig geduld mij onderdeel van iedere oplossing die kans van slagen heeft. Ik kan op dit moment niet goed beoordelen met welke problemen Vuurregenboog te maken heeft. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 mrt 2026 23:44 (CET) ::Nou er is niemand die mijn onvolledige pagina’s voortdurend aanvult en dat vind ik niet zo fijn. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 06:41 (CET) :::Volgens mij word je gaandeweg steeds beter in het maken van nieuwe pagina's. Ik kijk af en toe ook naar pagina's die jij hebt gemaakt en vul ze soms aan. Maar er bestaat niet zoiets als een volmaakte pagina: er is altijd wel iets dat nog beter kan, ongeacht hoeveel mensen er al aan gewerkt hebben. Zelf vind ik het ook leuk om andere klussen op te pakken dan enkel het verbeteren van bestaande pagina's. Op WikiWoordenboek zijn we allemaal vrijwilligers: we maken zelf uit waar we onze tijd aan besteden. Soms pakken mensen samen iets op en maken daar dan afspraken over, maar ook dat is een vrije keus. Ik vind het prima als je liever niet via een kladpagina wil werken en ik wil best met je nadenken hoe je vanuit jouw manier van werken nog betere pagina's kan maken. Dat voelt voor mij zinvoller dan dat ik elke keer hetzelfde soort aanvullingen doe. Zou je dat prettig vinden? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 12:58 (CET) ::::Ik denk het wel we kunnen wel iets bedenken. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 14:42 (CET) == [[mosterd]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Senf-Variationen.jpg|"[2] Van ongemalen mosterdzaad en mosterdpoeder tot verschillende bereidingen '''mosterd'''."]] of liever deze [[:afbeelding:Senfparade.gif|"[2] Verschillende soorten '''mosterd'''"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 07:26 (CET) :De eerste is duidelijk meer geschikt: de lezer kan rustig naar de verschillen kijken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 mrt 2026 10:57 (CET) == Ik word moderator op WikiWoordenboek NL == Kies je Voor of Tegen, MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 13:51 (CET) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:55 (CEST) ::Maar als MarcoSwart echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:59 (CEST) :::MarcoSwart, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:59 (CEST) ::::Tegen zegt MarcoSwart [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:31 (CEST) == [[wegkijken]] == Hallo MarcoSwart, kunnen [[:afbeelding:Wegkijkende mus2.jpg|mussen ook wegkijken]]? Of misschien [[:afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|een kind dat wegkijkt van zijn huiswerk]]? Cheers [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 16:57 (CET) :Voor mijn gevoel zitten we hier op het snijvlak van twee problemen: kijken is een handeling die hoe dan ook al wat lastig in een afbeelding is te vangen en "weg" is hierbij een nogal contextafhankelijk begrip. Je zou de eerste voor [[mus]] kunnen gebruiken, hoewel ik me kan voorstellen dat we er dan liever eentje hebben die ons aankijkt. De tweede zou passen bij "1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:38 (CEST) == [[klauwen]] == Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Komodo dragon (Varanus komodoensis) foot.jpg|De '''klauwen''' van een komodovaraan]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 15:50 (CEST) :Ik zie eigenlijk "1. De '''klauw''' van een [[komodovaraan]]." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:41 (CEST) ::Wat dacht je van [[:afbeelding:Auf dem Sprung (27238882495).jpg|"De '''klauwen''' van een tijger"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:06 (CEST) :::Wat een mooie foto! Voor alle duidelijkheid zou ik van het onderschrift iets maken als "Beide '''klauwen''' van deze tijger zijn links en rechts van de kop goed te zien." [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 19:30 (CEST) ::::[https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rocky_III&diff=70923249&oldid=70833741 Daarom misschien]? {{smiley}} == U bent minder actief == MarcoSwart, u bent minder actief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:40 (CEST) :Is er weer [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:58 (CEST) == Latijn heeft een bron toegevoegd op [[WikiWoordenboek:Protologisme/choopie]] == Hallo MarcoSwart Latijn heeft net een bron toegevoegd op het protologisme choopie zou u even kijken of het een geschikte bron is. Met vriiendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:29 (CEST) == [[bijenkoningin]] == Hallo MarcoSwsart, wat denk je van [[:afbeelding:Bienenkoenigin 43a cropped.jpg|"Een '''bijenkoningin''' tussen de werkbijen"]]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 06:55 (CEST) :Zij lijkt me royaal op haar plaats. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 08:43 (CEST) == [[klimop]] == Vind je [[:afbeelding:Herbst in Landschlacht TG (2018).jpg|"'''Klimop''' (''hedera helix'') aan een woning in Zwitserland"]] geschikt? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:11 (CEST) :Bouwkundigen denken er mogelijk anders over, maar ik denk van wel. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 09:12 (CEST) == [[nestkast]] == Wat denk je van [[:File:-2021-07-07 Owl Box, 'If Not Now When' community woodland, Suffield.JPG|"Een '''nestkast''' groot genoeg voor een uil"]]? of misschien [[:afbeelding:Bird box - geograph.org.uk - 63405.jpg|''Een '''nestkast''' in Engeland'']]? :Voor het verkleinwoord: [[:afbeelding:Cyanistes caeruleus -Cambridgeshire, England -chick looking out of nestbox-8.jpg|"Een jonge pimpelmees zit op de uitkijk in zijn '''nestkastje''' (Cambridgeshire, Engeland)."]] [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 07:24 (CEST) :Van het eerste paar lijkt de tweede mij het beste. Voor het verkleinwoord zou ik het onderschrift versimpelen tot "Een jonge pimpelmees kijkt uit zijn nestkastje (Cambridgeshire, Engeland). Iemand die baat heeft bij het plaatje zal mogelijk ook niet bekend zijn met de uitdrukking "op de uitkijk zitten" en veronderstelt dan wellicht dat de "uitkijk" een onderdeel van het nestkastje is. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 09:19 (CEST) 5u1379ekynfx4bzu19otgl1asu13che 0 203903 5504240 5422845 2026-03-31T10:00:41Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504240 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈrɛx(t)stat}} {{-syll-}} *rechts·staat {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|recht|||staat|||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[rechtsstaten]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{juridisch|nld}}, {{geopolitiek|nld}} {{Q|staat|nld|zn}} [A] waarvan de macht gereguleerd en beperkt wordt door het geldende recht {{bijv-1|Het constant [[exploiteren]] van het wij/zij-denken, het gestaag [[ontmenselijken]] van [[minderheden]], het verspreiden van [[complottheorie]]ën, het hameren op [[vijandbeeld]]en, het [[paaien]] van bestuurlijke [[elite]]s door je minder [[radicaal]] voor te doen dan je bent, het [[opjutten]] van jongeren die gevoelig zijn voor je [[gedachtengoed]], blinde [[heldenverering]] in plaats van [[democratisch]] debat, het [[ondermijnen]] van de [[rechtsstaat]], [[kritiek]] verdacht maken, [[verzet]] [[hardhandig]] de kop indrukken – het is een hele lijst, en het is allemaal meer dan [[herkenbaar]].<ref>[https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2025/02/27/lessen-trekken-uit-het-nazisme-menselijk-fatsoen-blijkt-uiterst-fragiel-a4884668 www.nrc.nl (27 feb 2025)]</ref>}} {{bijv-1|[[EU]] mag de ogen niet sluiten voor [[w:Recep_Tayyip_Erdoğan|Erdogan]]s aanval op de [[rechtsstaat]]. <ref>[https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2025/03/26/eu-mag-de-ogen-niet-sluiten-voor-erdogans-aanval-op-rechtsstaat-a4887619 www.nrc.nl (26 mrt 2025)]</ref>}} {{bijv-1|De regeringen van vijf EU-lidstaten werken „[[consistent]] en [[opzettelijk]]” aan het [[verzwakken]] van de [[rechtsstaat]]: [[Slowakije]], [[Bulgarije]], [[Hongarije]], [[Kroatië]] en [[Italië]].<ref>[https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/30/onderzoek-rechtsstaat-gaat-in-veel-eu-lidstaten-achteruit-in-vijf-landen-is-dat-zelfs-opzet-van-regering-a4924299 www.nrc.nl (30 mrt 2026)]</ref>}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. staat waarvan de macht gereguleerd en beperkt wordt door het geldende recht}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|constitutional state}} *{{afr}}: {{trad|af|regstaat}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Rechtsstaat}} {{m}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|état de droit}} {{m}} {{trans-mid}} *{{ita}}: {{trad|it|stato di diritto}} {{m}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|estado de derecho}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} oives8sdorp7njuef1pxxtpwbfux3mk 0 213709 5504133 5382391 2026-03-30T18:04:20Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504133 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈkwɑntʏmˌtustɑnt}} {{-syll-}} *kwan·tum·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|kwantum|||toestand|}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{natuurkunde|nld}} de fysische toestand van een [[systeem]], zoals die wordt beschreven in het kader van de [[kwantummechanica]] {{-syn-}} *[[quantumtoestand]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|estado cuántico}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} 26nerlmaoziw349dw7ozc1jyjhwajit 0 259847 5504021 3350717 2026-03-30T14:54:49Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504021 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu.sy/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *geattesteerd sinds de 12de eeuw als {{fro}} ''{{Q|mossu|fro}}''; een afleiding van {{Q|mousse|fra}} "mos" {{suff|fra|-u}} {{TLFe-r}} {{-fradjc-|[[{{pn}}]]|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}e]]|[[{{pn}}es]]}} {{-adjc-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[mossig]]; [[bemost]] {{refs}} lgjbqow9plpgiwkhd31kirrqjfrkapv 3 288445 5504137 5502609 2026-03-30T19:09:26Z Latijn 65243 /* Moderator */ nieuwe subkop 5504137 wikitext text/x-wiki __NOINDEX__ [[Overleg gebruiker:Wikischim/archief1|Archief1]] [[Overleg gebruiker:Wikischim/archief2|Archief2]] == uitstaan == [[Speciaal:Diff/5397422|Eens]], dat was ook mijn bedoeling maar blijkbaar heb ik niet goed opgelet. Bedankt. [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 2 nov 2025 12:29 (CET) == illegibel == U had gelijk dat illegibel niet geschikt is voor WikiWoordenboek bedankt voor de verwijderdiscussie. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 18:52 (CET) :Dag, ik zie dat u in vrij hoog tempo nieuwe pagina's aan het aanmaken bent die echter nog niet volledig zijn volgens het hier gebruikelijke stramien. Misschien kunt u zelf nog even kijken naar de aanvullingen? Overigens zijn de pagina's ook hiermee nog steeds niet volledig, zo ontbreken bijvoorbeeld nog bijna steeds de voorbeeldzinnen. [[gebruiker:Marcel coenders]] wees u net al op hetzelfde. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 20:17 (CET) == Overlegpagina == Vergeef mij de wat ongebruikelijke stap om je vraag op mijn overlegpagina te verwijderen. Uiteraard heb ik deze mogelijkheid ook overwogen, maar ik deed een bewuste poging om het overleg op gang te brengen met een open vraag. Betrokkene ontwikkelt zich tot een behoorlijk productieve bewerker, maar heeft het om redenen die ik nog niet goed kan overzien af en toe heel moeilijk in contacten met andere bewerkers, voor mijn gevoel een kwestie van onhandigheid zonder venijn. En tot nu toe herpakt hij zich elke keer weer. Je hebt het volste recht op je eigen opvatting in deze, maar ik hoop dat je mij op mijn overlegpagina de ruimte wil laten om het op mijn manier te proberen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 01:11 (CET) == Moderator == De Wikischim, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:09 (CEST) ku2p7ltjyqur5ppsvx18gw4ghaf4e4e 5504142 5504137 2026-03-30T19:17:19Z De Wikischim 13592 Versie [[Special:Diff/5504137|5504137]] van [[Special:Contributions/Latijn|Latijn]] ([[User talk:Latijn|overleg]]) ongedaan gemaakt. Sorry, hier kan ik helemaal niets mee - probeer als het even kan de vraag duidelijker te formuleren 5504142 wikitext text/x-wiki __NOINDEX__ [[Overleg gebruiker:Wikischim/archief1|Archief1]] [[Overleg gebruiker:Wikischim/archief2|Archief2]] == uitstaan == [[Speciaal:Diff/5397422|Eens]], dat was ook mijn bedoeling maar blijkbaar heb ik niet goed opgelet. Bedankt. [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 2 nov 2025 12:29 (CET) == illegibel == U had gelijk dat illegibel niet geschikt is voor WikiWoordenboek bedankt voor de verwijderdiscussie. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 18:52 (CET) :Dag, ik zie dat u in vrij hoog tempo nieuwe pagina's aan het aanmaken bent die echter nog niet volledig zijn volgens het hier gebruikelijke stramien. Misschien kunt u zelf nog even kijken naar de aanvullingen? Overigens zijn de pagina's ook hiermee nog steeds niet volledig, zo ontbreken bijvoorbeeld nog bijna steeds de voorbeeldzinnen. [[gebruiker:Marcel coenders]] wees u net al op hetzelfde. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 20:17 (CET) == Overlegpagina == Vergeef mij de wat ongebruikelijke stap om je vraag op mijn overlegpagina te verwijderen. Uiteraard heb ik deze mogelijkheid ook overwogen, maar ik deed een bewuste poging om het overleg op gang te brengen met een open vraag. Betrokkene ontwikkelt zich tot een behoorlijk productieve bewerker, maar heeft het om redenen die ik nog niet goed kan overzien af en toe heel moeilijk in contacten met andere bewerkers, voor mijn gevoel een kwestie van onhandigheid zonder venijn. En tot nu toe herpakt hij zich elke keer weer. Je hebt het volste recht op je eigen opvatting in deze, maar ik hoop dat je mij op mijn overlegpagina de ruimte wil laten om het op mijn manier te proberen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 01:11 (CET) p2dggdclp9v4hxm0veo4w93ab0tymzc 5504143 5504142 2026-03-30T19:17:31Z De Wikischim 13592 Tekst vervangen door "__NOINDEX__ [[Overleg gebruiker:Wikischim/archief1|Archief1]] [[Overleg gebruiker:Wikischim/archief2|Archief2]]" 5504143 wikitext text/x-wiki __NOINDEX__ [[Overleg gebruiker:Wikischim/archief1|Archief1]] [[Overleg gebruiker:Wikischim/archief2|Archief2]] m1eu90z62d4o3qvcxnh0easz4o4b7uv 0 288769 5504020 4883248 2026-03-30T14:53:11Z Jochenknabben 60937 Fr: + IPA + drv 5504020 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *mous·se {{-etym-}} * Leenwoord uit het Frans, in de betekenis van ‘gerecht van stijfgeklopte room’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in 1929 {{sijs}} *van het Frans {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|fm}} #{{voeding|nld}} Een licht en luchtig (na)gerecht van zoete of hartige ingrediënten. De basis vormt een vla van eidooier waardoor stijf geslagen eiwit en/of slagroom wordt geschept tot een gelijkmatig geheel. {{-hypo-}} *[[chocolademousse]], [[vleesmousse]], [[zalmmousse]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|espuma}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|mousse}} {{m}} / {{f}}, {{trad|es|mus}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|en-us-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|eng}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/muːs/|eng}} {{-syll-}} *mousse {{-etym-}} *Ontleend aan het Franse woord [[mousse#Frans|mousse]]. {{-enverb-|3=moussed|4=moussed|5=moussing}} {{-verb-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|eng}} haar met haarcrème in vorm brengen {{Clr}} {{-ennoun-|mousse|mousses}} {{-noun-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{kookkunst|eng}} [[mousse#Nederlands|mousse]] #{{kookkunst|eng}} [[crème#Nederlands|crème]] #[[haarcrème#Nederlands|haarcrème]] #{{techniek|eng}} [[schuimrubber]] vulling voor lekvrije banden {{-syn-}} *[3]: [[styling foam#Engels|styling foam]] *[3]: [[styling mousse#Engels|styling mousse]] {{-drv-}} *[1]: [[chocolate mousse#Engels|chocolate mousse]] [[Bestand:Mousse.jpg|thumb|120px|La mousse]] [[Bestand:Fiu le mousse.jpg|thumb|120px|Le mousse]] {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mus/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|la {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{f}} # [[schuim]], luchtige massa #{{plantkunde|fra}} [[mos]] {{-drv-}} *[1] {{Q|moussu|fra}} *{{Q|mousseux|fra}} {{-syn-}} *[1] [[écume]] {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{scheepvaart|fra}} [[scheepsjongen]] a1t9ebnxwctz73nbk17kkg4rqgxej0z 0 290993 5504010 5408169 2026-03-30T14:24:51Z Jochenknabben 60937 + Franse vertaling 5504010 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *xe·ro·fyt {{-etym-}} * {{pref|nld|xero-}} en {{suff|nld|-fyt}} {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{beschrijvende plantkunde|nld}} plant die kan leven in een zeer droge omgeving {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|xérophyte}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|xerófito}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB|0}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} cxceacvle2rj18djvkglzd7zrjrukjh 5504013 5504010 2026-03-30T14:28:05Z Jochenknabben 60937 + Duitse en Engelse vertaling 5504013 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *xe·ro·fyt {{-etym-}} * {{pref|nld|xero-}} en {{suff|nld|-fyt}} {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{beschrijvende plantkunde|nld}} plant die kan leven in een zeer droge omgeving {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Xerophyt}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|xerophyte}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|xérophyte}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|xerófito}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB|0}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} 5dq3yqsl6y454nllixiyvkqlfgjnlqd 0 293867 5504197 4170874 2026-03-31T06:56:30Z Ooswesthoesbes 2745 +nodef: ww ontbreekt 5504197 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *te·lexen {{-verb-}} {{nodef}} {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|telex}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{refs}} ps414g7n1pko2llo0o3j5f50tjqboru 5504238 5504197 2026-03-31T09:38:59Z MarcoSwart 9001 aanvulling 5504238 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈtelɛksə(n)}} {{-syll-}} *te·lexen {{-etym-}} *{{+|ww}}: afgeleid van {{Q|telex|nld|zn}} {{suff|nld|-en}} *{{+|zn}}: {{Q|telex|nld|zn}} met de uitgang ''-en'' {{-nlstam-|{{pn}}|[[telexte]]|[[getelext]]|k=t|scheid=n}} {{-verb-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{communicatie|nld}} verzenden via een bepaald netwerk voor getypte communicatie {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|telex}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{refs}} 84to6dfbcqpbw73s1a43xvmj2bzohnt 3 338587 5504156 5503764 2026-03-30T19:30:10Z Latijn 65243 /* Aanmelding moderatoren */ Reactie 5504156 wikitext text/x-wiki Dag Marcel, Kan u me laten weten waar u de afbeelding van het eco-teken vond? U voegde het in 2016 toe aan een pagina. Met vriendelijke groeten == "Meh" == Ik denk dat de uitspraak van [[meh]] niet helemaal klopt. Ik heb even moeten zoeken voor een voorbeeld: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6pehsx op 10 minuten. (of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PgQNtT4CyI op 2:35) Is wel in het Engels, maar Nederlands is praktisch hetzelfde. De NL nagesynchroniseerde versie "Geur van een Hoodie" kan ik even niet vinden, maar daarin zegt ze ook "meh". ::Ik heb mijn hogere schapen blaatkunde ingezet en het geluidsbestand aangepast [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 6 okt 2019 21:41 (CEST) Super overigens wat je voor WikiWoordenboek doet. Ik geloof dat we hier geen sterren/barnstars hebben, maar anders gaf ik je er één. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Alexis Jazz|- Alexis Jazz]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Alexis Jazz|overleg]]) 6 okt 2019 20:09 (CEST) ::Dank je, de suggestie alleen al is de gift zelf ... [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 6 okt 2019 21:39 (CEST) == Ontbrekend geluid op andere WikiWoordenboeken == Het viel me op dat [[:Categorie:Ontbrekend geluid]] vaak leeg is hier. Ik heb net even een script gemaakt om te controleren welke Nederlandse artikels geen geluidsbestand hebben op het Engelse WikiWoordenboek, want uiteindelijk zullen de meeste van deze woorden hier ook een eigen pagina krijgen. Het zijn er op het moment ongeveer 7000. Ik heb het lijstje [[Gebruiker:Robin van der Vliet/Ontbrekend geluid|hier]] opgeslagen. Zeg maar of je ook deze woorden wil uitspreken, want dan kan ik het lijstje dagelijks automatisch bijwerken. {{Gebruiker:Robin van der Vliet/Ondertekening}} 22 jan 2020 01:00 (CET) ::Ik ben begonnen met de woorden uit te spreken. Ben met de A klaar, maar bij nogal wat woorden heb ik eigenlijk grote twijfel of het überhaupt wel echt Nederlands is. Het controleren van de Engelse Wiktionary m.b.t. de Nederlandse woorden is misschien ook een mooi en nuttig project [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 jan 2020 16:59 (CET) :::Het viel me ook op dat er redelijk wat woorden in staan met een verouderde schrijfwijze (aensnellen, bierflesch, krygsgevangene, vleesch, vraagh, zyn). Ik weet niet wat je daar het beste mee kan doen... Het Engelse WikiWoordenboek neemt deze woorden gewoon op, en zet er dan het label "obsolete" bij. {{Gebruiker:Robin van der Vliet/Ondertekening}} 22 jan 2020 19:08 (CET) ::::Ben wat met de B bezig geweest maar het wordt met eigenlijk een beetje te gortig ... We hebben heel veel Nederlandse woorden ingesproken dus als een woord géén geluidsbestand heeft is de kans gewoon heel groot dat het geen Nederlands is. Het idee was heel goed maar het lijkt me dus niet een heel goede zaak om het te voltooien. Het controleren van de Nederlandse woorden op de wiktionary lijkt me wel een goed en nuttig project voor de liefhebber. En zo blijft het maken van woordenboeken een interessant en eindeloos project [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 jan 2020 20:02 (CET) :::::{{ping|Robin van der Vliet}}, voor het Engels bestaat er geen officieel vastgestelde spelling. Het is daarom begrijpelijk dat de Engelstalige wiktionary een aanpak heeft waarin elke schrijfwijze die valt te attesteren ook kan worden opgenomen. Voor een taal met een nogal woelige spellingsgeschiedenis als het Nederlands levert dat een grote rijkdom aan mogelijke vormen op (laat ik het positief benaderen). Omdat dit louter variaties in de schrijfwijze zijn, is het inderdaad onzinnig om hiervoor aparte geluidsbestanden te maken: voor de schrijfwijzen vanaf de 20e eeuw kan gewoon het bestaande bestand met de naam volgens de officiële spelling worden gebruikt. Voor oudere vormen zou ik geen geluidsbestanden gebruiken, want het is aannemelijk dat het Nederlands in de betreffende periode al wat anders klonk dan tegenwoordig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 jan 2020 12:32 (CET) == Schrijfwijzen die met cijfers beginnen == Bij woorden die met een getal beginnen zijn er vaak twee schrijfwijzen: eentje in letters en eentje waarin het telwoord is vervangen door cijfers gevolgd door een koppelteken ([[veertigjarig]] en [[40-jarig]]). Meestal voeg ik meteen beide vormen toe, en als er voor een van beide nog geen geluidsbestand bestaat, gebruik ik gewoon dat van de andere, omdat ze dezelfde uitspraak hebben. Als er voor geen van beide vormen een geluidsbestand bestaat, leek het me doelmatig om voor beide uit te gaan van één geluidsbestand, met de naam gebaseerd op de vorm met cijfers. Hoewel je dan beide vormen op de verzoekpagina ziet verschijnen, is het dan voldoende om het bestand met de cijfers in de naam aan te maken. Als je een andere voorkeur hebt, laat het even weten, dan pas ik mijn werkwijze aan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2020 09:55 (CET) :::Ik las dit bericht net na het voorlezen van alle getallen. Josseline vond het wel weer een fraai stukje hoogstaande intellectuele arbeid en vroeg zich af of dit doorging tot 13,5 miljard (de leeftijd van het universum). Maar goed ik heb dus beiden voorgelezen. :) [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 25 jan 2020 10:14 (CET) ::::Dan zal ik proberen nu verder toch beide bestanden te gebruiken. De vraag van Josseline heb ik mijzelf ook gesteld voordat ik aan het avontuur begon. Boven de duizendtallen moet er volgens de spelling een spatie worden ingevoegd en levert de schrijfwijze dus een combinatie van woorden op: zeshonderdtweeënveertig miljoen driehonderdachtienduizend vijfhonderdtwaalf levert dus een combinatie van vier woorden op. In principe is de hele klus voor wat betreft de hoofdtelwoorden voor het Nederlands geklaard met ::::a. de getallen van 0-999 ::::b. de duizendvouden vanaf 1.000 tot 999.000 ::::c. de honderdvouden vanaf 1100 tot 9900 (minus de duizendtallen) ::::d. de woorden voor machten van duizend volgens de lange schaal (bij mijn weten zijn dat er ook een kleine duizend, maar het merendeel wordt in de praktijk niet gebruikt) ::::e. een paar woorden die bijzondere getallen aanduiden. ::::De aantallen worden groter als we ook rekening houden met het al dan niet invoegen van "en" na honderd en het al of niet weglaten van "een" voor honderd of duizend. ::::In principe kennen de gewone telwoorden weer een rangtelwoord. Met andere afgeleide woorden zoals -jarig zijn de grenzen lastiger te vinden. Ik kijk meestal in bestaande bronnen hoe ver die gaan, peil dan steekproefgewijs of (en hoe ver) er vormen voor hogere getallen te vinden zijn en trek dan een simpele grens waarboven hooguit nog incidenteel een los geval ([[hapax]]) te vinden is. Die werkwijze maakt wel dat er vrij zeker vormen tussen zitten die (nog) niet te attesteren zijn, maar dat probleem lijkt me bij deze voor Nederlandssprekenden volstrekt doorzichtige vormen minder ernstig dan dat van een niet-Nederlandssprekende die zo'n zeldzame vorm tegenkomt en haar tevergeefs probeert op te zoeken. Bij de -jarigen leek 200 zo'n simpele grens, omdat mensen tot 122 oud zijn geworden en er onder die grens de nodige schildpadden, bomen en historische perioden zijn waarvan de (levens-)duur tot op een jaar nauwkeurig bekend is.--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2020 12:22 (CET) Dag {{ping|Marcel coenders}}, Voor alle zekerheid: ik heb nu een groot aantal verbogen vormen toegevoegd, waarbij de uitgeschreven vormen voor de uitspraak verwijzen naar het bestand voor de vormen die met cijfers beginnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2020 22:05 (CET) == oo. bestanden op commons == Hallo Marcel coenders, je hebt al heel wat werk verricht bij commons (dank voor je jarenlange inzet) en daar had ik net een vraagje over. Ik geef er de voorkeur aan om de beschrijving te linken naar nl.wiktionary. Waarschijnlijk hecht je daar zelf niet zo'n belang aan. Nu staan er door een kleine typo heel wat files met als beschrijving ''wikikwordenboek''. Ik vroeg me af of je dit ''in one go'' kan aanpassen. Ik had het er reeds over met [[:Commons:User talk:Vysotsky|Vysotsky]]. Thnks. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 07:51 (CET) ::De eerste 1000 files zijn veranderd, de rest volgt. Het is een langzaam proces dus ik kan niet de andere 500.000 files veranderen in nl.wiktionary maar daar zijn vast slimmere meisjes en jongens voor die dat wel kunnen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 07:57 (CET) :::Bedankt Marcel coenders, dat van die slimme meisjes en jongens, daar bedoel je wel het een of andere botje mee... {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 08:22 (CET) ::::Timmert de hamer of timmert de timmerman? Ik denk dan eerder aan de timmerman. De slimme meisjes en jongens kunnen het met behulp van een botje [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 08:28 (CET) :::::Alle 3600 wordenboeken zijn veranderd in woordenboek [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 26 feb 2020 08:17 (CET) == chevreau == Ik wil mij niet bezondigen aan ongewenste intimiteit met mieren en zeker niet met geiten, maar ik kan de betekenis "geitenlam" van [[chevreau]] alleen voor het Frans terugvinden, niet voor het Nederlands. Alles wat ik tegenkom is "geitenleer". Ik heb een sectie Frans met beide betekenissen aan het lemma toegevoegd en een Nederlands voorbeeld voor "geitenleer". Als je een vindplaats hebt voor "geitenlam" kunnen we die wellicht toevoegen; of als het eigenlijk om de Franse betekenis ging, zouden we die in de Nederlandse sectie kunnen verwijderen en de foto naar de Franse sectie verplaatsen. Ik wacht je reactie af voordat ik verder iets verander. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2020 10:32 (CET) == Ere wie ere toekomt == Vanavond hebben we de definitieve toestemming van prof. Marc Brysbaert van de Universiteit Gent gekregen om de meest recente versie van de prevalentiecijfers uit de bestanden op hun website te gaan gebruiken, in plaats van het bestand zoals ze dat eerder ook met woorden.org hebben gedeeld. Ik ga de projectpagina's de komende dagen aan deze nieuwe situatie aanpassen. Hij schreef me in een eerdere mail naar aanleiding van de stand van zaken "Dat is een echt titanenwerk. Goed te zien dat het veel gebruikt wordt." en dat leek me een passende lofprijzing om aan jou door te geven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 apr 2020 22:39 (CEST) :Voor de overgang naar de nieuwe cijfers wil ik ook een meer "centrale" opslag van de cijfers gaan toepassen. Dan hoef ik straks alleen het oude sjabloon "om te leiden" naar het nieuwe en kunnen de lemma's zelf vooralsnog ongewijzigd blijven. Bijkomend effect van deze verandering is dat je het nieuwe sjabloon {{Tl|Leesonderzoek-2013}} meteen in de nieuwe pagina van woorden uit het onderzoek kan opnemen: het zoekt zelf de juiste cijfers op. Voor de "nieuwe pagina's" heb ik die cijfers inmiddels klaargezet, voor de bestaande is dat nog even een klusje, maar omdat dat zich buiten de hoofdnaamruimte afspeelt kan ik het veilig door een bot laten doen. Ik heb het nieuwe sjabloon bij wijze van voorbeeld al ingevoegd in de lemma's waarmee je bezig bent. Het nieuwe sjabloon bevat een referentie, dus {{Tl|refs}} is ook vereist, maar die voegde je zelf toch al standaard toe. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mei 2020 13:41 (CEST) ::Hallo Marco, ik heb Josseline, mijn vrouw, natuurlijk uitgebreid gefeliciteerd met het feit dat ze getrouwd is met een internationaal en universitair erkende titaan, helaas maakte dat net wat minder indruk dan waar ik dacht recht op te hebben maar goed kan ik mee leven. Wat ik jammer vind aan het nieuwe sjabloon is dat er niet meer verwezen wordt naar een lijst met een opsomming van woorden die door N% van de Nederlanders en V% van de Vlamingen worden herkend ik zie bijvoorbeeld [[aanzweven]] ook niet in de lijst van woorden die door 77% van de Nederlanders wordt herkend. Misschien kan daar wat aangedaan worden. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 1 mei 2020 14:58 (CEST) :::Oei, Marcel, ik wil je natuurlijk nu geen tweede teleurstelling bezorgen. In het nieuwe sjabloon is ook de categorisering al ingebouwd, de enige reden dat die nog "uit" staat is dat ik eerst de tekst op de categorieën zelf wil aanpassen, omdat de te verwachten totalen natuurlijk ook gaan veranderen. Dus het gaat komende dagen allemaal goed komen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mei 2020 19:03 (CEST) :::De vereiste aanpassingen zijn doorgevoerd. Categorieën zouden nu weer als vanouds moeten werken. Als er toch nog ergens iets niet goed gaat, laat het me dan weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mei 2020 08:53 (CEST) == Weerváren en wederváren == Hallo Marcel, Zie [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Bestand:nl-wedervaren.ogg dit bestand]. De klemtóón ligt op de verkeerde syllábel. ;-) [[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 22 sep 2020 05:14 (CEST) :Als ik op Van Dale en mijn taalgevoel afga, hebben we hier te maken met een klemtoonhomogram. Het is overigens een subtiele, want naast het zelfstandig naamwoord blijft het natuurlijk altijd mogelijk de onbepaalde wijs zelfstandig te gebruiken. Toevoegen van het onbrekende bestand is zeker een verbetering, maar het bestaande bestand kan ook correct zijn. Ik heb [[wedervaren]] aan mijn bevindingen aangepast. Kan dit ieders instemming krijgen? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 sep 2020 14:03 (CEST) == [[groenwit]] en [[groen-wit]] == …zijn beide zowel zelfstandig naamwoord als bijvoeglijk naamwoord. "Groenwit" is een groenige tint wit, terwijl "groen-wit" uit zowel witte als groene vlakken bestaat. Voor mijn gevoel is er ook een subtiel verschil in klemtoon: GROENwit en groen-WIT. In principe kunnen deze dubbele combinaties bij alle kleuren voorkomen, maar feitelijk betekent wit-groen hetzelfde als groen-wit en kennelijk hebben taalgebruikers een voorkeur voor die laatste vorm. Bij Go Ahead is het ook altijd "rood-geel", nooit andersom. Daar staat tegenover dat de combinaties met koppelteken ook drieledig kunnen zijn, waarbij soms de eerste kleur weer wordt herhaald: Rotterdam is "wit-groen-wit". Er zit nog wel een masterscriptie Nederlands in om dit eens grondig uit te zoeken en van verklaringen te voorzien. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 sep 2020 23:13 (CEST) == [[rechteroever]] == Er is iets misgegaan met de link naar het plaatje. Had je al iets moois gevonden of moet de link gewoon weg? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2020 19:47 (CEST) ::Een ander, na deze opmerking ook meer toepasselijk, plaatje [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 5 okt 2020 20:01 (CEST) == colchicine == Hoi Marcel, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]])De uitspraak van [[colchicine]] is 'kolgieSIEne' met een stemloze keelklank van "lach". In dit geval doe ik er een berichtje bij, omdat het bestand ook tot [[en:Talk:colchicine|discussie]] bij onze Engelstalige collega's leidde. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2020 23:51 (CET) bedankt ~ == [[honingzoet]] plaatje == Hoi Marcel, Nu eens niet over geluid, maar over beeld. De afbeelding op honingzoet is op Commons voorgedragen voor verwijdering omdat expliciete toestemming van de schilder Jan Knap ontbreekt. Daar kunnen we vrees ik niet zoveel aan veranderen. Ik vermoed dat je de afbeelding en het citaat bewust als elkaar versterkende elementen hebt toegevoegd. Had je toen nog een next-best oplossing die we nu zouden kunnen gebruiken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2020 20:32 (CET) == samenstellingen met corona == Hoi Marcel, In de imposante lijst van samenstellingen die je aan [[corona]] hebt toegevoegd, heb ik net een paar aanpassingen volgens de spellingregels aangebracht. Iedere auteur mag een koppelteken invoegen voor de leesbaarheid waar hem dat voor zijn publiek nuttig lijkt, maar in een naslagwerk als WikiWoordenboek is het verstandig om de standaardschrijfwijze aan te houden, temeer omdat we dat op onze Hoofdpagina aankondigen. Ook "anti-coronafeest" is zo [[anticoronafeest]] geworden (ik heb het 'oude' geluidsbestand gebruikt). Omdat ik me kan voorstellen dat je meer coronalemma's in de pen hebt, kan ik me voorstellen dat deze aanpassingen je belangstelling hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2020 12:23 (CET) == speciaal verzoek geluidsbestanden == Hoi Marcel, Laat ik beginnen met de beste wensen voor jou en de jouwe. Na [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/Olaf|deze wijzigingen]], ben ik even nagegaan wat er aan de hand was, uitmondend in de concrete vraag waarover ik je op de Overlegpagina van Lotje heb aangeroepen. Door haar tussenkomst is "nl-staatsgreep.ogg" nu vrij voor een geluidsbestand, maar de hernoeming van het oude bestand is nog niet ideaal. Om te voorkomen dat iemand dat laatste probleem weer gaat "oplossen" door de oude naam te herstellen is dit wellicht een goed moment om "[[staatsgreep]]" in te spreken. Ik heb geen idee of dat een beetje in jouw klussenlijst valt in te passen, maar als het lukt is het mooi. Misschien is het dan mogelijk de volgende namen meteen mee te nemen, ik heb suggesties voor een bestandsnaam toegevoegd, maar als een ander systeem jou beter past, kan dat natuurlijk ook. Ik heb daarom op de betreffende pagina's nog geen links naar een ontbrekend geluidsbestand toegevoegd. Het zou principieel natuurlijk beter zijn als de ingesproken Wikipedia-artikelen allemaal "-article" in de bestandsnaam krijgen. Er zijn echter nog meer inconsistenties in de naamgeving. Alles op orde brengen betekent het hernoemen van tientallen bestanden en de daaruit voortvloeiende wijzigingen op Wikipedia en dat valt toch een beetje buiten mijn interessesfeer. Vandaar mijn wat pragmatische lijstje hieronder: de enige gevallen waarin een voorgelezen artikel uit de Nederlandse Wikipedia een bestandsnaam zonder "-article" heeft gekregen, terwijl het aannemelijk is dat wij er ook een lemma voor zullen maken. # [[San Marino]] als 'nl-san Marino.ogg' # [[Sem]] als 'nl-sem.ogg' # [[Semele]] als 'nl-semele.ogg' (SEEmeelee) # [[Socrates]] als 'nl-socrates.ogg' # [[Verenigde Staten van Amerika]] als 'nl-verenigde Staten van Amerika.ogg' Op het moment dat ik dit schrijf zijn er nog twee lemma's die hier ontbreken, maar daar ga ik verandering in brengen. O, en nog bedankt voor het blauw maken van de kersttoespraakwoorden. Onze beginscore was hier zelfs 99,1%. Mijn indruk is dat er bij deze toespraak nog meer werk gemaakt wordt van de toegankelijkheid dan bij de troonrede, want het rood had voor een groot deel betrekking op uitspraak of stilistische keuzes en de zinnen lijken me gemiddeld nog wat korter. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2020 12:25 (CET) --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2020 12:25 (CET) ::ik heb de veranderingen aangebracht [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 28 dec 2020 22:23 (CET) :::Schitterend. Door de aanvulling zo nadrukkelijk te presenteren heb ik het woord waar het allemaal mee begon wat laten ondersneeuwen: [[staatsgreep]]. Of vond je het na de "Verenigde Staten van Amerika" beter om even tot 6 januari te wachten met de "staatsgreep"? :::Ter zijde. Ik heb de maker van webwoordenboek.nl mijn assistentie aangeboden bij het oplossen van eventuele problemen, maar voor wie weet hoe het werkt is het updaten (met een achterstand van een paar dagen) niet heel moeilijk: de Wikimedia Foundation publiceert voortdurend zogenaamde datadumps van al haar projecten (alleen bij de allergrootsten gaat dat iets moeizamer). Je ziet mij misschien af en toe wat van die "fix Lint error"-bewerkingen uitvoeren: die hebben onder meer tot doel toekomstig hergebruik eenvoudiger te maken door zoveel mogelijk de algemene html5-standaard aan te houden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 10:50 (CET) ::::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}} eerder had ik de file m.b.t. tot het artikel [[:Afbeelding:Nl-Verenigde Staten van Amerika-article.oga|'''Verenigde Staten van America''']]. Als president wordt (gezien de datum van de opname) Barack Obama genoemd. Ergens moet dit toch verwarring wekken, dacht ik. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 11:29 (CET) :::::{{ping|Lotje}} Kan het zijn dat er een voltooid deelwoord in je eerste zin ontbreekt? Het project om Wikipedia-artikelen in te lezen lijkt wat stil te liggen. Het is ook nauwelijks te doen om van duizenden, laat staan miljoenen pagina's ingesproken versies bij te houden. Een meer kansrijke strategie is om pagina's zo in te richten dat ze met de steeds beter wordende spraaktechnologie goed kunnen worden voorgelezen. Maar ik ga me daar niet echt mee bezighouden, er is ook hier op WikiWoordenboek nog veel nodig om de toegankelijkheid voor tal van doelgroepen te verbeteren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 12:53 (CET) ::::::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, inderdaad "beluisterd". Bedankt voor de opmerkzaamheid :-) Je hebt inderdaad gelijk: het gebruik van spraaktechnologie om de toegankelijkheid te verbeteren is dé oplossing bij uitstek. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 12:58 (CET) :::::::{{Ping|Marcel coenders}}, weet je wat zou gebeuren mocht ik de spelling van '''nl-san Marino.ogg''' via een rename in '''nl-San Marino.ogg''' willen omzetten? Wordt het dan ook automatisch een .oga? Zoja, meen ik dat het beter is wanneer je een nieuwe file aanmaakt. Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2020 08:09 (CET) == [[San Marino]] == Hier zou ik, als je het goed vindt, [[:Afbeelding:TE-Collage San Marino.png|deze collage]] toevoegen. Een begeleidende tekst is waarschijnlijk overbodig. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 13:03 (CET) == [[corioliskracht]] == Hoi Marcel, Misschien voor jou geheel overbodig, maar zelf had ik voor het uitvogelen van de uitspraak van "coriolis" wel baat bij [https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=238&v=hoqC0x3TKCQ deze clip]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2021 11:38 (CET) == [[coelacant]][[coelacanth|(h)]] == Hoi Marcel, Dit is wel weer om lekker diep onder water te zwemmen en wanneer we daar een fossiele vis tegenkomen, leek het de taxonomen een goed idee die een naam te geven met een fossiele spelling. Deze oe is het Oudgriekse οῖ en via het Latijn wordt dat in gangbaar Nederlands een lange ee. Mensen die hechten aan bepaalde klassieke tradities gebruiken ook wel "eu" of juist weer "oj". In woorden als "[[economie]]" en "[[feniks]]" is de uitspraak tegenwoordig ook in de schrijfwijze duidelijk, maar bij soortnamen heeft een internationaal gebruikelijke schrijfwijze ook zo haar voordelen. Dat laatste heeft de h op het eind niet kunnen redden, zodat wij dezelfde uitspraak op twee lemma's (kunnen) gebruiken. Ik heb nu alleen op het hoofdlemma om een aangepast geluidsbestand gevraagd. Als het nieuwe bestand niet nl-coelacant.ogg heet, zou ook het lemma met de oude schrijfwijze met -th moeten worden aangepast. Vandaar dit bericht. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jun 2021 10:10 (CEST) PS We kunnen nog 3 spellingveranderingen verwachten: in 2035 "celacant", in 2055 "celakant" en in 2075 "selakant". ''That what we call a fish will smell as bad by any other name...'' == Popo == Omdat er rond de namen [[Popocatépetl]] en [[Popocatepetl]] veel onduidelijkheid is, leek het me wel nuttig om hier twee lemma's aan te wijden. Daardoor moet ik jou weer lastigvallen met twee uitspraakbestanden. Het leek me voor de duidelijkheid handig om de verschillen hier nog even aan te geven: hoewel de oorspronkelijke naam uit het Nahuatl komt, ontlenen we de officiële naam aan het Spaans. Want dat is nu de officiële taal van Mexico en er is ook vrijwel geen rechtstreekse uitwisseling tussen Nahuatl en Nederlands geweest. Dat Popocatépetl wordt uitgesproken als pooPOOkaa'''TEE'''peetl (dus met de hoofdklemtoon op ''té'' en een nevenklemtoon op de twee ''po''). Aan Annie M.G. Schmidt en Harry Bannink hebben we het liedje Popocatepetl te danken, waarin (vermoedelijk opzettelijk) de uitspraak verder is vernederlandst tot POOpooKAAtuh'''PETL''', met de hoofdklemtoon op ''petl'' en nevenklemtonen op de eerste ''po'' en ''ca''. Deze schrijfwijze en uitspraak kom ik ook voor het restaurant tegen. Mijn favoriete graffiti las ik eind jaren zeventig op een bushokje van de TET bij Drienerlo: :Ik wou dat ik een vulkaan was.<br/> :De hele dag op mijn rug liggen roken<br/> :en dan de mensen horen zeggen:<br/> :"Kijk, hij werkt!" De eerste twee regels passen goed bij Popocatépetl, de laatste twee passen nog beter bij jou. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 aug 2021 00:32 (CEST) ==uitspraak [[gender|gendér]] (muziekinstrument)== Een [[Overleg_gebruiker:Benimation|nieuwe collega]] wees mij erop dat er een verschil is tussen het geluidsbestand en de IPA-weergave van de uitspraak van "gendér" (de "xylofoon" van een Indonesisch gamelanorkest. Daarom meld ik me weer hier met een verzoek om een nieuwe versie, ook omdat het vanuit het Nederlands benaderd om vrij ongewone klanken gaat. Qua klinkers en slotmedeklinker rijmt het woord op [[geblèr]], de beginmedeklinker is die van [[goal]], daarna is het genoeg om "bl" door "nd" te vervangen. Hierna is het wellicht verassend te horen dat het instrument juist tamelijk vriendelijk kabbelende klanken voortbrengt. Nu ik hier toch ben, Wikimedia Nederland wil 13 november weer een conferentie beleggen (live of online is nog niet helemaal zeker). Ik kreeg gisteren opnieuw een herinnering of ik nog een onderdeel wilde aanmelden. Ik aarzel, maar ik was benieuwd of jij nog ideeën in die richting hebt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2021 00:19 (CEST) == Holy Phagwa! == De ph aan het begin van Phagwa komt van de फ uit het Hindi, niet van de Φ uit het Grieks. Daarom lijkt het me waarschijnlijk dat zij in [[phagwafeest]] ook als ph wordt uitgesproken, zoals in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7MXWUQOPJg dit nieuwsberichtje]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2021 13:18 (CEST) ::verbeterd[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 17 sep 2021 16:11 (CEST) == Joods-Nederlandse "losse" woorden == Omdat de oorspronkelijke site van Sofeer volgend jaar stopt, ben ik, nu raadplegen nog mogelijk is, druk doende om onze Joods-Nederlandse woordenschat zoveel mogelijk bij te werken (vooral ook met de Hebreeuwse herkomst). In dat verband viel me op dat er bij de uitdrukkingen die uit meer woorden bestaan soms wel en soms niet pagina's voor de afzonderlijke woorden zijn aangemaakt. Soms ontbrak zo'n doorverwijzing al op Sofeer zelf, soms hebben we die (nog) niet overgenomen. Het is mijn bedoeling om deze woorden (naar schatting tegen de 200) alsnog op te nemen, maar daarbij ook aan te geven dat ze alleen in de betreffende uitdrukkingen voorkomen en ze in het woordsoortsjabloon ook een 0-parameter te geven, zodat ze de tellingen niet beïnvloeden. De complete uitdrukkingen zijn al ingesproken en het lijkt me niet strikt noodzakelijk dat ook nog eens te doen voor de losse woorden die (in het Nederlands) toch alleen binnen die uitdrukking voorkomen en waarnaar altijd wordt verwezen. Afhankelijk van jouw opvatting over de wenselijkheid om deze woorden ook afzonderlijk in te spreken, kan ik bij het toevoegen {{Tl|audio}} meenemen of weglaten. Ik verwacht overigens dat er vermoedelijk een nog groter aantal plaatsnamen, voornamen en dergelijke is, dat tegenwoordig ook voor opname in aanmerking komt, maar zo ver ben ik nog niet met dit klusje gevorderd.--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 nov 2021 23:12 (CET) Zul je altijd zien: vandaag kom ik op [[Sjema]] dat als naam van een gebed (vergelijk: [[Onzevader]]) ook zelfstandig voor opname in aanmerking komt, maar ook deel is van [[kriat Sjema]]. Dit leek me een geval dat zeker een eigen uitspraakbestand verdient (zie ook de rode link op het laatstgenoemde lemma. Een voorbeeld van een van de bovengenoemde losse woorden waar ik over twijfel is [[sjemoerot]], waar ik {{Tl|audio}} vooralsnog heb weggelaten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 nov 2021 12:22 (CET) Met het uitzoeken van de losse Hebreeuwse woorden ben ik nu klaar. Nu je nog geen reactie hebt gegeven, ga ik ze de komende dagen gaan toevoegen zonder {{Tl|audio}}. Als het toch zinvol blijkt deze woorden van een eigen geluidsbestand te voorzien, kan ik het sjabloon aan de hand van het bestand dat ik nu heb gemakkelijk alsnog toevoegen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2021 19:50 (CET) :Lijkt me een uitstekend idee want ik ben zeker geen moedertaalspreker van het Hebreeuws :) [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 5 nov 2021 19:54 (CET) ::Beste Marcel, ::Ik vroeg mij af of ik u zou kunnen mailen? ::Met vriendelijke groet, ::Tim [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/217.103.105.65|217.103.105.65]] 9 mrt 2022 19:19 (CET) :::Je kunt altijd een bericht zetten op mijn overlegpagina https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Marcel_coenders [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2022 19:28 (CET) == Provençaals == Deze {{WikiW|Helpdesk#Uitspraak_Proven%C3%A7aals|vraag aan de helpdesk}} lijkt me een goed punt. Zou je er eens naar kunnen kijken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2021 08:44 (CET) :Ik heb in een moeite door even naar andere woorden met c-cedille gekeken en daarvan leek mij alleen [[cachaça]] een probleem, maar dan meer vanwege de ch die eigenlijk als sj moet worden uitgesproken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2021 08:57 (CET) == Goed nieuws, betere werk en beste wensen == Beide gefeliciteerd met jullie kleinzoon. Zo'n vooruitziende blik is natuurlijk het [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Jack&oldid=2305412 betere werk]. Rest mij nog om jullie, met Jack en zijn ouders, fijne feestdagen en het beste voor het nieuwe jaar te wensen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 dec 2021 14:10 (CET) == Paleontoloog == Kan het zijn dat er bij de vervanging van het geluidsbestand op [[paleontoloog]] iets is misgegaan? Het klinkt nu net als het oude bestand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2022 09:57 (CET) == Oekraïens == Door de actualiteit krijgen sommige lemma's opeens extra aandacht. Daardoor kom ik je even lastigvallen met het volgende. Het trema op Oekraïens geeft alleen aan dat er een scheiding tussen de a en de i is, dus geen ai als in [[rail]], maar a-i zoals in [[naïeve]]. In de uitspraak op [[Oekraïense]], [[Oekraïense grivna]] en [[Oekraïensen]] is er als het ware nog een tweede scheiding ingeslopen "aaIEjense", terwijl het gewoon "aaIEnse" is. Ik gok dat dit een contaminatie met de Latijnse uitgang "-iense" is, die wel zo wordt uitgesproken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2022 14:03 (CET) == Fotootjes == Zie [[Overleg:groepsfototje]] aub. == passte == Dit word is Nederengels. Het komt van Engels ''to pass'' en wordt dan ook (min of meer) zo uitgesproken. Je uitspraakbestand is dus opnieuw fout. :In de gangbare Nederlandse uitspraak wordt allang niet meer geprobeerd om het Engels na te bootsen: "pass" rijmt gewoon op "kaas". In mijn oren klinkt het nieuwe bestand prima. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mei 2022 21:11 (CEST) == Aanmelding als moderator == Voor dingen als het verwijderen van pagina's en het blokkeren van spammers heb je een paar extra opties in de programmatuur nodig. Traditioneel horen gebruikers het vertrouwen van de gemeenschap te vragen voordat ze die opties krijgen. De officiële term is {{WikiW|Moderator}} en je kunt je {{WikiW|Aanmelding moderators|hier}} aanmelden, waarna er een week reacties worden afgewacht om te zien of het vertrouwen voldoende is. Dit is op deze wiki meestal een formaliteit, maar deze stap hoort erbij. Je kunt voor wat betreft de motivatie gewoon naar de discussie in De kroeg verwijzen. Wanneer je de aanmelding hebt toegevoegd, zorg ik voor de vervolgstappen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 11:16 (CEST) == Geen optie == Ik denk dat [[aankoopoptie|dit]] niet is wat je bedoelde. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mei 2022 13:17 (CEST) ::bedankt[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 23 mei 2022 13:39 (CEST) == Taalparameter == De contextlabels zijn nog waardevoller met de taalparameter '''nld''' om ze in de goede categorie te kunnen plaatsen. Je zet nu onbedoeld veel woorden in [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Pagina's met sjabloon zonder ingevulde taal|deze categorie]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 23:50 (CEST) == Hier ging iets mis == Ik vermoed dat je [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek%3AHoofdpagina&type=revision&diff=4565612&oldid=4559756 hier] iets anders deed dan je bedoeling was. Als je de hoofdpagina ergens als verstekwaarde in een script hebt zitten, is het een goed idee dat te veranderen: de bescherming van pagina's werkt niet bij moderatoren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2022 11:41 (CEST) == [[bouwkosten]] == Dag {{ping|Marcel coenders}}!<br /> Ik denk dat er iets mis is met het enkelvoud van [[bouwkosten]]. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 10 okt 2022 12:14 (CEST) == Soemano als eigennaam == Dag Marcel, ik kwam langs de pagina [[Soemano]] (eigennaam). Naar mijn weten ben ik de enige persoon in het Nederlandse taalgebied met deze voornaam, dus ik was erg nieuwsgierig wat u bewogen heeft om een WikiWoordenboek pagina daarvoor aan te maken. Ik voel me in ieder geval vereerd. 😉 (Bij de uitspraak ligt de klemtoon overigens op de eerste lettergreep, niet de tweede.) [[Gebruiker:Accon4|Accon4]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Accon4|overleg]]) 2 jan 2023 21:20 (CET) == [[brandblusapparaat]] == Hallo Marcel coenders, vind je [[:Bestand:Hohenloher Freilandmuseum - Baugruppe Mühlental - Mahlmühle aus Weipertshofen - Flur - blaue Wand mit Feuerlöscher (2).jpg|deze]] afbeelding duidelijker? Zou je er iets op tegen hebben dat ik de afbeelding vervang? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 feb 2023 06:46 (CET) :Prachtig, nu ook op [[brandblusser]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 25 feb 2023 19:02 (CET) == Hoofdpagina == Uit de 4 laatste onbedoelde veranderingen van de Hoofdpagina krijg ik indruk dat je script automatisch de Hoofdpagina verandert als er ergens iets misgaat. Is het mogelijk iets in te bouwen waardoor dat niet gebeurt? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jul 2023 16:13 (CEST) == afloopdatum == Dag Marcel. Er is iets niet helemaal goed aan de zin "[[afloopdatum#Zelfstandig_naamwoord|tijdstip dat een bepaalde afspraak, regeling geldigheid stopt]]". Misschien kan je die verbeteren. Met vriendelijke groet, [[Gebruiker:ErikvanB|ErikvanB]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:ErikvanB|overleg]]) 29 jul 2023 06:37 (CEST) == uitspraak [[fäh]] == Mijn indruk is dat [[c:File:Nl-fäh.ogg|dit geluidsbestand]] niet klinkt zoals je bedoeld hebt. Volgens Van Dale klinkt het net zo als [[fee]], dus wat mij betreft is het ook een optie om dat bestand dubbel te gebruiken, maar qua systematiek is een afzonderlijk bestand natuurlijk wel beter. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 sep 2023 12:09 (CEST) == door jou dubbel gedefinieerde woorden == Hallo Marcel, Ik heb nogal wat woorden aangetroffen die door jou dubbel zijn gedefinieerd.<br> Als het om een paar gaat, pas ik die altijd aan.<br> Dit keer zijn het er wel erg veel en ik laat ze daarom nu aan jou over.<br> Volgens mij kun je het probleem relatief eenvoudig corrigeren als je nogmaals met autokey de batch uitvoert maar nu met de extra statement sendinput ^a{del} wat de pagina helemaal leeg maakt:<br><br> run, https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title="pagina"&action=edit"<br> sleep 10000<br> sendinput {tab}^{end}<br> sleep 500<br> ;<br> sendinput ^a{del}<br> ; met eerst geheel verwijderen oude inhoud!<br> items met meer dan één definitie van een taal<br> [[Abcoudse]] [[BBQ'ende]] [[bijlenende]] [[borstvoedende]] [[brijende]] [[bussende]] [[defriendende]] [[doorbouwende]] [[doorkervende]] [[doorklinkende]] [[doorknagende]] [[dooroefenende]] [[doorploegende]] [[doorregenende]] [[doorrennende]] [[doorrijgende]] [[doorscheurende]] [[doorschuddende]] [[doorsnuffelende]] [[doorstikkende]] [[doorstralende]] [[doorvliegende]] [[doorvoelende]] [[doorvretende]] [[doorwandelende]] [[doorwarmende]] [[doorzendende]] [[doorzingende]] [[doorzwemmende]] [[drolemoji]] [[fikkende]] [[foutrekenende]] [[genderbendende]] [[goedrekenende]] [[haaiende]] [[handhelds]] [[heengestapt]] [[heenzendende]] [[hielende]] [[houtvlottende]] [[inscheppende]] [[inverdienende]] [[inzendende]] [[kleinzende]] [[klossende]] [[kluizende]] [[knikkebenende]] [[koersende]] [[kollende]] [[kriekende]] [[kuilende]] [[lijntekenende]] [[medeondertekenende]] [[meeberekenende]] [[meetekenende]] [[meezendende]] [[mijnende]] [[misradende]] [[moerende]] [[natregenende]] [[nazendende]] [[neerregenende]] [[nokkende]] [[omgietende]] [[omslingerende]] [[omverrennende]] [[omwendende]] [[omwikkelende]] [[omzwevende]] [[onderstoppende]] [[ontvriendende]] [[opspittende]] [[opstuikende]] [[opzendende]] [[overijlende]] [[overpratende]] [[oversnijdende]] [[overspuitende]] [[overtillende]] [[overzeilende]] [[overzendende]] [[pierende]] [[plankende]] [[rabattende]] [[ribbende]] [[ronddienende]] [[rondkrijgende]] [[rondzendende]] [[samenrottende]] [[scharrelbenende]] [[schendende]] [[schrotende]] [[sponsende]] [[stoffende]] [[stokkende]] [[stroppende]] [[tegentekenende]] [[terugherkennende]] [[terugkennende]] [[terugrekenende]] [[terugzendende]] [[toewendende]] [[toezendende]] [[touwende]] [[treilende]] [[vernietigingscentrum]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 feb 2024 10:46 (CET) :Alles is weer verbeterd n.l. door bij geschiedenis de laatste bewerking weg te halen, jouw voorstel vind ik een beetje gevaarlijk want soms is de oude pagina een stuk uitgebreider dan mij nieuwe pagina en soms is er bijvoorbeeld sprake van een andere woordsoort (in dit geval zou het ook een bijvoeglijk naamwoord kunnen zijn. Bedankt voor het trouw weghalen van dubbelingen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 2 feb 2024 14:01 (CET) == Experimenteren met sjablonen == Hoi Marcel, even een tip. Om ervoor te zorgen dat onze lezers een pagina snel te zien krijgen zijn er wereldwijd tientallen servers waarop een kopie van elke pagina is opgeslagen. Als wij een bewerkte pagina opslaan, wordt de wikitext daarvan vertaald en naar al die servers gekopieerd. Wanneer we een sjabloon opslaan, worden achter de schermen alle pagina's die dat sjabloon gebruiken opnieuw vertaald en opgeslagen op al die servers. Het tijdelijk wijzigen van een veelgebruikt sjabloon betekent dat er twee van zulke operaties vlak achter elkaar worden uitgevoerd. Daarom is het beter zo'n sjabloon pas op te slaan als je zeker bent van de verandering die je wil aanbrengen. Om te experimenteren heeft het bewerkingsvenster voor sjablonen onderaan de mogelijkheid ''Voorvertoning weergeven met dit sjabloon'': als je daarin paginanamen waarop het sjabloon al gebruikt wordt invult, krijg je via de knop ''Voorvertoning weergeven'' te zien hoe het daarop uitpakt. Deze vorm van experimenteren voorkomt dat lezers de indruk krijgen dat onze site traag is geworden of te maken krijgen met informatie die eigenlijk niet voor hun bedoeld was, zoals: '''femme''' <span {{gramstijl}}>de (vrouwelijk)</span>. Als je meer complexe tests wil doen, kun je het sjabloon onder een andere naam kopiëren en daarmee experimenten op pagina's in je eigen gebruikersruimte. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 feb 2024 10:49 (CET) == Parameters in citeersjabloon == Hoi Marcel, Dank voor de vriendelijke woorden over {{Tl|-l-}}, ook al is het nog niet helemaal uitontwikkeld. Bij het dagelijks onderhoud liep ik aan tegen twee puntjes waar je systeem wellicht nog iets beter kan worden afgesteld. #De parameter ''datum'' komt de afgelopen weken vaak dubbel voor, waarbij het de eerste keer kort na het begin staat, met een onjuiste datum die zo op het oog wel eens uit het citaat daarvoor lijkt te zijn overgebleven. Voor recente voorbeelden kun je kijken in de geschiedenis van [[verzamelbundel]], [[vochtvlek]], [[wagenmenner]], [[wijnproeven]], [[wijnspeciaalzaak]] en [[winterkwartier]]. #Sinds een paar weken gebruik je ''bezocht'' in plaats van ''bezochtdatum''. Dat laatste kan ik Snorrebot vrij eenvoudig laten aanpassen, maar het leek me praktisch dat ik even afwacht tot je jouw instellingen hebt kunnen bijstellen. Je kunt de lemma's die al in de pijplijn zitten zo ongecorrigeerd plaatsen: straks is het dan na één doorloop allemaal weer in orde. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 apr 2024 10:30 (CEST) :Het waren een aantal zaken die niet zichtbaar zijn op de gepubliceerde pagina vandaar dat het me niet is opgevallen heb het nu aangepast. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 3 apr 2024 11:29 (CEST) ::OK, dan ga ik aan de slag. Terzijde, ik weet niet of je de vraag op [[Overleg:oen]] al hebt gezien. Ik weet niet of dit inherent is aan de programmatuur, of dat er iets aan te doen is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 apr 2024 11:22 (CEST) :::Nieuwe versie ingesproken die dat probleem niet heeft. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 4 apr 2024 11:31 (CEST) == ontsporing == Misschien was je er al mee bezig, maar op [[seintoestellen]] is kennelijk iets misgegaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jun 2024 19:38 (CEST) == Geluidsbestand [[taël]] == Dit blijft [[Overleg:taël|een lastige]], omdat hij wat tegen de gangbare uitspraak van het Nederlands ingaat. Bij veel woorden op -el gaat het om een onbeklemtoonde sjwa (tafel, wimpel) en wanneer het echt als è wordt uitgesproken, krijgt het meestal ook meteen de klemtoon: tabel, vaarwel. Maar "taël" rijmt min of meer op "[[natel]]" als je de -t- daaruit weglaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jul 2024 09:45 (CEST) == ontsporing == Vermoedelijk heeft de programmatuur je [[realiteitsgehalte|hier]] een ongewenste verrassing bezorgd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2024 10:18 (CEST) * Voor het geval dat je het nog niet had gezien, ook op [[fantasiebeeld]] en [[frisdrankflesjes]] staat vermoedelijk niet wat je beoogde. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2024 21:06 (CEST) == Amerikanse == N.a.v. [//nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=dom&diff=prev&oldid=4554668 deze bewerking]: staat er echt "Amerikanse"? [[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 21 okt 2024 14:41 (CEST) :Type fout verbeterd bedankt [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 21 okt 2024 16:12 (CEST) == comiteetjes == Hallo Marcel,<br> Ik had gisteren weer eens een controleprogramma laten lopen en het viel me op dat je sinds de laatste keer flink bezig bent geweest met de comiteetjes.<br> Wat de woordafbreking betreft, die is altijd: co·mi·té·tjes.<br> Ik heb gisteren al heel wat veranderingen aangebracht maar er rest nog een aantal.<br> Zou jij het erg vinden om die te doen?<br><br> Hieronder staan ze:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[beheerscomiteetjes]] <td>be·heers·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>be·heers·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[beroepscomiteetjes]] <td>be·roeps·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>be·roeps·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[beurscomiteetjes]] <td>beurs·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>beurs·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[bidcomiteetjes]] <td>bid·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>bid·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[directiecomiteetjes]] <td>di·rec·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>di·rec·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[drankweercomiteetjes]] <td>drank·weer·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>drank·weer·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[Elfstedencomiteetjes]] <td>Elf·ste·den·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>Elf·ste·den·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[feestcomiteetjes]] <td>feest·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>feest·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[flatcomiteetjes]] <td>flat·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>flat·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[groencomiteetjes]] <td>groen·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>groen·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[hakbijlcomiteetjes]] <td>hak·bijl·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>hak·bijl·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[handelscomiteetjes]] <td>han·dels·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>han·dels·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[interim-comiteetjes]] <td>in·te·rim-·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>in·te·rim-·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[kindercomiteetjes]] <td>kin·der·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>kin·der·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[landbouwcomiteetjes]] <td>land·bouw·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>land·bouw·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[mensenrechtencomiteetjes]] <td>men·sen·rech·ten·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>men·sen·rech·ten·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[ministercomiteetjes]] <td>mi·nis·ter·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>mi·nis·ter·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[ministerscomiteetjes]] <td>mi·nis·ters·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>mi·nis·ters·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[monitoringcomiteetjes]] <td>mo·ni·to·ring·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>mo·ni·to·ring·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[Nobelcomiteetjes]] <td>No·bel·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>No·bel·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[Oranjecomiteetjes]] <td>Oran·je·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>Oran·je·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[organisatiecomiteetjes]] <td>or·ga·ni·sa·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>or·ga·ni·sa·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[oudercomiteetjes]] <td>ou·der·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>ou·der·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[overlegcomiteetjes]] <td>over·leg·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>over·leg·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[partijcomiteetjes]] <td>par·tij·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>par·tij·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[protestcomiteetjes]] <td>pro·test·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>pro·test·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[redactiecomiteetjes]] <td>re·dac·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>re·dac·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[regeringscomiteetjes]] <td>re·ge·rings·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>re·ge·rings·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[remuneratiecomiteetjes]] <td>re·mu·ne·ra·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>re·mu·ne·ra·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[schoolcomiteetjes]] <td>school·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>school·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[sportcomiteetjes]] <td>sport·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>sport·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[staatscomiteetjes]] <td>staats·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>staats·co·mi·té·tjes </table> Ik hoop dat verder alles goed met je gaat in het regenachtige Holland. Wij waren 5 weken in Holland op bezoek maar zijn weer blij met ons Tenerife-zonnetje, Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 09:55 (CET) :Omdat het me praktischer leek, heb ik het door Snorrebot laten doen: met zo'n net lijstje is dat in een paar minuten gefikst. Als dat toch niet optimaal is, laat het gerust weten, het kan ook in een paar minuten worden teruggedraaid. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:11 (CET) :Volgens mij had ik al een verbeterprogramma over deze woorden laten gaan maar misschien had ik er paar gemist zie bijvoorbeeld [[staatscommiteetjes]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:32 (CET) ::[[staatscomiteetjes]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:33 (CET) :::Oepsie: Ik had wel het comiteetje maar niet de comiteetjes verbeterd. Bedankt Marco [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:42 (CET) == refs == Hallo Marcel Ik zie dat je de laatste tijd bij veel pagina's het sjabloon <nowiki>{{citeer}}</nowiki> plaatst.<br> Zou je in zo'n geval erop willen letten om ook aan het eind van de Nederlandse sectie het sjabloon <nowiki>{{refs}}</nowiki> te plaatsen?<br> Er waren nogal wat pagina's waar ik die moest aanbrengen.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 17 nov 2024 17:47 (CET) ==[[amfitheatergewijs]]/[[amfitheatergewijze]] == Dag, ik zie dat je deze twee pagina's net weer hebt verwijderd. Volgens mij is dat niet echt nodig, aangezien nevenvormen zonder verbindings''-s'' bijna altijd zijn toegestaan. Hetzelfde geldt trouwens voor bijv. veel schrijfwijzen met een optioneel koppelteken voor het leesgemak (''[[anti-aanbaklaag]]'', ''[[jazz-zanger]]'' e.d.). Ik vind het al langer inconsequent dat die schrijfwijzen hier geweerd worden, terwijl andere niet door de TU officieel erkende woorden en woordvormen doorgaans wel worden opgenomen. Is het misschien tijd om hier eens een wat bredere discussie over te starten? [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 24 nov 2024 12:58 (CET) :Er is een wezenlijk verschil tussen het bestaan van woorden en uitspraakvarianten enerzijds en verschillende schrijfwijzen bij gelijkblijvende uitspraak anderzijds. De Taalunie geeft uitsluitsel over de laatste vraag, niet over de eerste. :Het vermelden van schrijfwijzen die nooit officiële spelling zijn geweest lijkt me geen goed idee. We hebben in het huidige tempo nog ettelijke decennia werk om de vormen te beschrijven die dat wél zijn (geweest). Dankzij flexie, afleiding en samenstelling levert iedere variant weer veel extra werk op als we naar enige consistentie streven. In de praktijk is de kans groot dat het een willekeurig allegaartje wordt. Daar hebben onze gebruikers niet zoveel aan. Heel wat gebruikers raadplegen een Nederlands woordenboek juist om snel te achterhalen wat de standaardschrijfwijze is (geweest). Het wordt voor die gebruikers alleen maar omslachtiger als ze steeds moeten nagaan wat de status van een vermelde vorm is. Bovendien zijn varianten in schrijfwijze niet willekeurig met elkaar te combineren: als je koppeltekens noodzakelijk acht voor je publiek, hoor je dat bij alle in aanmerking komende woorden wél of juist niet te doen. Als je x als ks spelt, hoor je qu als kw te spellen. Wie dat weet, kent de achterliggende regel en heeft de vermelding in een woordenboek niet nodig. Maar als je die regel niet kent, is de vermelding in een woordenboek niet erg verhelderend, helemaal als dat noodgedwongen op een wat willekeurige manier gebeurt. :Als het gangbaar Nederlands uitspraakvarianten kent die volgens de spellingregels een andere schrijfwijze opleveren, vormen die in de benadering van WikiWoordenboek een afzonderlijk trefwoord, al was het maar omdat er onder {{Tl|-pron-}} en {{Tl|-etym-}} verschillende informatie moet worden gegeven. Dat kan inderdaad leiden tot het vermelden van "amfitheatergewijs". Zulke woorden moeten wel worden geattesteerd en volgens de spellingregels zijn geschreven. De Taalunie pretendeert uitdrukkelijk niet om woord(vorm)en te erkennen: het gaat simpelweg om een heel uitgebreide verzameling voorbeelden bij de spellingregels waar ze wél over gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2024 00:33 (CET) == Geluidsbestand pion == Bij de eerste betekenis van [[pion]] (pión) hebben onze voorgangers in het verre verleden per abuis een bestand gemaakt waarop "spion" is te horen. Ik heb het nu even op de gebruikelijke wijze aangemeld voor een nieuw bestand, maar in dit geval zou ik liever het oorspronkelijke bestand vervangen, want dat is onder deze naam gewoon verkeerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2024 09:08 (CET) == Request == Apologies that I do not speak Dutch, however I was patrolling edits from smaller wikis when I came across the contributions of [[Special:Contributions/81.204.39.34|81.204.39.34]]. I just wanted to ask if these types of edits are normal. [[Gebruiker:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JJPMaster|overleg]]) 28 nov 2024 17:18 (CET) :Looks like this editor was testing the possibilities of editing WikiWoordenboek: they were clearly not improvements. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2024 17:01 (CET) == zkar? == Ruim 9 jaar terug voegde je als jongensnaam [[zkar]] toe, als 2e in een serie die begon met [[Zyan]], vervolgde met [[Yvan]] en eindigde met [[Aart]]. Dat ziet eruit als een reeks met jongensnamen van 4 letters in omgekeerd alfabetische volgorde. Qua spelling moet een naam met een hoofdletter beginnen en "zk" is in het Nederlands ook een ongebruikelijk begin van een woord. Ik kan "Zkar" ook nergens terugvinden. Daarom denk ik dat er wellicht iets is misgegaan bij het verwerken van een groter bestand. Kun jij nog achterhalen wat de bedoeling was? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2024 13:49 (CET) :zkar met of zonder hoofdletter is waarschijnlijk een jeugdzonde ik heb het verwijderd. Groetjes Marcel [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 8 dec 2024 15:34 (CET) == [[merchandise]], geluidsbestand ≠ IPA? == Merk ik juist op dat het [[commons:File:Nl-merchandise-ogg|geluidsbestand mechandise]] niet lijkt te klinken als de fonetische WNT weergave [http://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=merchandise /ˈmʏːrtʃəndɑjs/] en wat ik via http://ipa-reader.xyz hoor? [[Gebruiker:Arx - 83|Arx - 83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Arx - 83|overleg]]) 11 dec 2024 15:43 (CET) :Ik merk de [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=merchandise&diff=5218118&oldid=5217383 aanpassing van het geluidsbestand] en hiermee lijkt issue opgelost. Dank voor deze en de vele andere bijdragen. [[Gebruiker:Arx - 83|Arx - 83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Arx - 83|overleg]]) 13 dec 2024 00:48 (CET) == Straattaal of Surinaams? == Van [[soso]] en [[trobi]] is goed aan te tonen dat het Surinaamse woorden zijn. Het is wat lastiger om degelijke bronnen te vinden waaruit blijkt dat ze ook in Nederlandse zinnen worden gebruikt. Ik heb de bewerker die ze toevoegde daar ook [[Overleg gebruiker:Saverinio|al naar gevraagd]]. Ik ben zelf met wisselend resultaat bezig om per lemma vindplaatsen op te sporen, maar dat vraagt wel wat tijd. Als ik ze niet kan vinden, is het mijn voornemen om zulke lemma's om te zetten naar woorden in het Surinaams in plaats van het Nederlands. Is dat wat jou betreft oké? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 dec 2024 20:20 (CET) :Lijkt me een uitstekend idee Nog de beste wensen voor Kerst en Nieuwjaar [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 18 dec 2024 20:43 (CET) == [[ravijn]] == Hallo Marcel counders, je [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=ravijn&diff=prev&oldid=3962286 voegde deze afbeelding toe], en ik vroeg me af of iets zoals [[:afbeelding:Canyonlands np.jpg|"Een '''ravijn''' in Canyonlands National Park"]] misschien zinvol is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2025 13:59 (CET) == spaties in sjablonen == Hallo Marcel, De laatste tijd plaats je spaties om allerlei woorden in sjablonen.<br> Ik heb gemerkt dat dat niet altijd goed gaat.<br> Bij voorbeeld bij het woord '''[[make vol]]'''.<br> Als je daar spaties plaatst rond het woord '''volmaken''' in het sjabloon <nowiki>{{aanv-w|volmaken}}</nowiki> verschijnt er een niet juiste link naar de vervoegingstabel.<br> Misschien moet je die spaties liever weglaten.<br> Als je dat toch wilt, overleg dan eerst met Marco: misschien dat hij een oplossing weet.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2025 13:12 (CET) :Ik heb de meeste spaties uit de betreffende lemma's verwijderd al weet ik niet of het helemaal compleet is. :Bijzonder is wel dat probleem alleen maar zit in de verwijzing naar de vervoegingstabel en niet in de verwijzing naar het werkwoordlemma zelf. :Ik heb mijn programmatuur (ook voor de niet-werkwoordsvormen) 'spatieloos' gemaakt maar de betreffende lemma's niet aangepast omdat het daar volgens mij geen problemen oplevert. :Misschien kan [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) hier ook even naar kijken. :Groetjes Marcel :Dit was het oorspronkelijke bericht van Kvdgeus :Hallo Marcel, :De laatste tijd plaats je spaties om allerlei woorden in sjablonen. :Ik heb gemerkt dat dat niet altijd goed gaat. :Bij voorbeeld bij het woord '''[[make vol]]'''. :Als je daar spaties plaatst rond het woord '''volmaken''' in het sjabloon <nowiki>{{aanv-w|volmaken}}</nowiki> verschijnt er een niet juiste link naar de vervoegingstabel. :Misschien moet je die spaties liever weglaten. :Als je dat toch wilt, overleg dan eerst met Marco: misschien dat hij een oplossing weet. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2025 14:40 (CET) ::Tot de eigenaardigheden van de MediaWikiprogrammatuur is dat bij parameters die met een naam worden opgegeven (<nowiki>{{wanneer|jaar= 2025 }}</nowiki>) eventuele spaties eromheen worden weggelaten, maar bij parameters zonder naam (<nowiki>{{wanneer| 2025 }}</nowiki>) de spaties worden meegenomen in de verwerking. En omdat in dit geval de werkwoordnaam wordt aangevuld met "/vervoeging" om er een wikilink van te maken, komt er dan een spatie voor de deelstreep waardoor de link niet meer werkt. In principe is het wel mogelijk om een sjabloon te laten controleren of de parameter nog getrimd moet worden, maar we hebben erg veel sjablonen met onbenoemde parameters, dus dat zou wel een hele klus worden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jun 2025 20:36 (CEST) == Argument "nld" in sjabloon <nowiki>{{nomact|nld}}</nowiki> == Hallo, Marcel, Onlangs heb je mijn wijziging op de pagina [[heropflakkering]] ongedaan gemaakt, waardoor het sjabloon <nowiki>{{nomact|nld}}</nowiki> weer in gebruik is. Ik begrijp niet helemaal waarom je dit hebt gedaan, gezien er nu een hoofdletter middenin een zin staat, terwijl het woord in kwestie geen eigennaam of initiaalwoord is. Ook staat er in de beschrijving van het sjabloon alleen dat "l" als argument een kleine letter oplevert, dus ik weet niet wat je hoopt te bereiken door "nld" als argument mee te geven. Met vriendelijke groet, [[Gebruiker:110521sgl|110521sgl]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:110521sgl|overleg]]) 4 jun 2025 16:25 (CEST) :mijn foutje ... [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 4 jun 2025 18:09 (CEST) ~ mij foutje~~ == uitspraak "compromis" == Ronald is begonnen onze standaardweergave IPA stelselmatig te vergelijken met die op woordenlijst.org. Naast een reeks systematische verschillen en fouten in dat bestand levert dit ook een reeks correcties bij ons op, die soms ook weer leiden tot verzoeken om gewijzigde geluidsbestanden. Een bijzonder geval is in dit verband het woord [[compromis]] en de daarvan afgeleide verkleinwoorden en meervouden, omdat die zowel vernederlandst (-mis) als meer op zijn Frans (-mie) kunnen worden uitgesproken en dat heeft weer effect op de schrijfwijze. Op dit moment staan de geluidsbestanden niet bij de schrijfwijze waar ze bij horen: je zou ze gewoon kunnen hernoemen. Daarnaast heeft het trefwoord nog een oud geluidsbestand dat alle vormen zowel op zijn Frans als vernederlandst laat horen. Dat is een systeem dat we niet meer volgen. Hier lijken mij twee eenvoudige bestanden, eentje met alleen het trefwoord in vernederlandste vorm en eentje met alleen het trefwoord op zijn Frans voldoende: de meervouden en verkleinwoorden hebben immers eigen pagina's. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jun 2025 00:12 (CEST) :Een nobel werk om alle IPA's en uitspraken te controleren ik zal de verbeteringen gaan inspreken. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 jun 2025 07:30 (CEST) == Nieuwe vorm van linkspam == Toen ik een nieuwe gebruiker wou gaan verwelkomen, viel mij opeens op dat de "vindplaats" die deze op [[roaming]] had toegevoegd wel de NOS noemde, maar linkte naar een heel andere site, nota bene helemaal Engelstalig. Dat is kennelijk een nieuw soort linkspam, verborgen in een citeersjabloon. In plaats van een welkom is het nu een blokkade voor onbepaalde tijd geworden, maar het kan zijn dat er meer pogingen volgen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jul 2025 17:24 (CEST) == Meervoudsvorm van maandnamen == De oude namen van maanden werden vaak meer als een soort eigennaam gebruikt. Bij een aantal zegt het WNT expliciet "geen meervoud". Misschien is het beter om hier alleen meervouden te vermelden als die ook echt in bronnen zijn terug te vinden, anders zijn we de geschiedenis aan het herschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 16:46 (CEST) == fulltimebasis == Volgens woordenlijst.org is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=fulltimebasis&os=fulltime*&pos=AA%7CNOU%7CRES fulltimebasis] de enige officiële spelling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 sep 2025 16:15 (CEST) :Maar er wordt wel doorverwezen naar taaladvies waarin fulltime medewerker / fulltime-medewerker / fulltimemedewerker alle drie worden goedgekeurd terwijl alleen fulltimemedewerker in de lijst staat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 sep 2025 17:07 (CEST) ::Als je fulltime als bijvoeglijk naamwoord gebruikt, kun je het met een spatie spellen. In het eerste geval is het geen woord of vaste verbinding; vergelijk ''[[rodekool]]'' en ''[[rode]] [[kool]]''. Het tweede geval gaat over het invoegen van een koppelteken, wat in een samenstelling altijd mogelijk is wanneer er reden is om te veronderstellen dat dat de lezers anders in verwarring zullen raken, een beetje vergelijkbaar met de mogelijkheid om een extra klemtoon te markeren met een accentteken op de betreffende klinker(s). Dit soort variaties kunnen op het trefwoord zelf worden aangegeven, maar we beschrijven ze niet op een aparte pagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 sep 2025 14:41 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het toevoegen van zoveel woorden 19 sep 2025 16:54 (CEST) == Aanpassing verzoekpagina == Dag Marcel, Bij het voorgaande bedankje sluit ik me natuurlijk graag aan. Je hebt zojuist op de verzoekpagina ook de lijsten met recent toegevoegde woorden weggehaald. Was dat je bedoeling? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 okt 2025 12:53 (CEST) Ik heb de top-80 ondertussen zelf bijgewerkt, dus daar kan iedereen weer op losgaan. Dit zijn zelfstandige naamwoorden uit het Referentiebestand Nederlands, een wat oudere referentielijst voor het maken van vertaalwoordenboeken. Dit bestand bevatte ook heel wat woorden in een spelling die niet (meer) correct is, maar die heb ik er (hopelijk) allemaal uitgefilterd. Het zijn vaak wel termen die een kwart eeuw terug meer werden gebruikt dan nu. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 okt 2025 13:18 (CEST) == [[rooksalon]] == Hallo Marcel coenders {{ping|MarcoSwart}} zou [[:afbeelding:Koningswijk, 1000 Brussel, Belgium - panoramio (96).jpg|deze]] ondertussen beschikbare afbeelding meer duidelijkheid brengen? Vanwege de 3 landstalen bedoel ik. thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 07:05 (CEST) == Compleet maken van WikiWoordenboek == Hallo Marcel coenders, zullen we samen proberen WikiWoordenboek compleet te maken, als je plannen hebt hoe we dat kunnen doen laat ze dan achter op zijn overlegpagina. Met vriendelijke groet 11 nov 2025 09:17 (CEST) Ik heb gereageerd op mijn andere overlegpagina en mijn tijdelijke account heet nu ~2025-33234-20 en ik ben elke dag aanwezig dus je ziet elke dag mijn nieuwe woorden == [[screenshot]] == Hallo Marcel coenders, fijn dat je een afbeelding toevoegde. Zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:ScreenCapture.PNG|"Een '''schreenshot''' van het lemma "Amsterdam" op Wikipedia"]] en ik vroeg me af of dit dichter bij huis, in het Nederlands misschien geschikt is. thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 16:36 (CET) == Ik ben de komende tijd minder actief Marcel coenders == Hoi Marcel coenders, ik wil zeggen dat ik heb geantwoord op je bericht met de bovenstaande titel op de overlegpagina van MarcoSwart 2025 11:44 (CEST) == [[haaienbek]] == Dag Marcel coenders, zonet plaatste ik een extra afbeelding bij het woord. Had je misschien een grotere foto beschikbaar [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=haaienbek&diff=3776307&oldid=3774567 hiervan]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 05:46 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste Marcel coenders. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:13 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:06 (CET) == dubbele IPA's == Hallo Marcel, Allereerst nog de beste wensen voor 2026!!!<br> Ik heb wat controles gedaan op de IPA's en zag dat je soms twee IPA's in één sjabloon <nowiki>{{IPA-nl-standaard|}}</nowiki> plaatst.<br> Dat is niet de bedoeling want dan klopt er echt niets meer van.<br> Als er twee mogelijkheden zijn om een woord uit te spreken moeten die elk in één <nowiki>{{IPA-nl-standaard|}}</nowiki> worden geplaatst (met een komma ertussen).<br> Zie bij voorbeeld bij https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=autozaak&diff=5433042&oldid=5413645<br> Vaak is het mogelijk de twee IPA's tot één te maken omdat het verschil alleen zit in het wel of niet hoorbaar uitspreken van de n.<br> Dat heb ik gedaan bij https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=dierenzaak&diff=5433045&oldid=5413614<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 18:08 (CET) == vraag == Hallo Marcel coenders zou u mijn bijdragen nog even willen verbeteren als hoe u dat altijd doet. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:35 (CET) :Ik zou trouwens ook wel willen weten wanneer u er tijd voor heeft. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) ::Ik bedoel eigenlijk iets anders als hoe u het nu doet ik bedoel dat ik bijvoorbeeld de pagina airtrack heb aangemaakt en hoe u die pagina daarna hebt verbeterd dat bedoel ik. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:49 (CET) :::Ik bedoel niet alleen het woordgeslacht. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:58 (CET) ::::Als u er tijd voor heeft laat dan een bericht achter op mijn overlegpagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 12:08 (CET) == Verbuigingen van puistachtig == Hallo Marcel coenders u heeft puistachtig correct geschreven, maar alle verbuigingen beginnen met puitstachtig zou u die pagina’s willen hernoemen? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 19:12 (CET) :Bedankt [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 19:22 (CET) ::Graag gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 19:22 (CET) == Fouten in overtreffende trappen == Hallo Marcel, Ik ben de verbuigingen van de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden een beetje aan het controleren.<br> Het viel me op dat je vaak de overtreffende trappen verkeerd hebt ingevoerd.<br> Zie bij voorbeeld de wijzigingen die ik heb aangebracht bij :<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=zwavelachtigst&diff=5437284&oldid=4007351<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=zwavelachtigste&diff=5437287&oldid=4007352<br> en bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=rosachtigst&diff=5437294&oldid=3877045<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=rosachtigste&diff=5437297&oldid=3877046<br> <br> Veel van deze narigheid kan worden voorkomen door gebruik te maken van standaardsjablonen zoals:<br> <nowiki>{{adjcomp|p=1|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}e]]|[[{{pn}}er]]|[[{{pn}}ere]]|[[{{pn}}t]]|[[{{pn}}te]]|part={{pn}}|partcomp=[[{{pn}}ers]]}} </nowiki> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :Ik hoop dat ik deze 'jeugdzondes' uit 2019 nu wat minder maak, bedankt voor je oplettende controle werk. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:22 (CET) == Geluidsbestand 'worstelen' == Misschien had je hem al op de radar, maar voor alle zekerheid vraag ik ook je aandacht voor [[Overleg:worstelen|deze opmerking]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 23:43 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo Marcel coenders ik kan geen tijdelijk account aanmaken en heb daarom dit account aangemaakt ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Als u mijn onvolledige pagina’s nog aan wil vullen laat dan een reactie achter op dit account en niet op ~2025-37261-51. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 21:08 (CET) :Misschien is het een goed idee om je onvolledige pagina's minder onvolledig te maken. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 21:12 (CET) ::Ik ben trouwens ‘s nachts meestal niet aanwezig [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 21:24 (CET) == Verbuigingen studeerbaar == Hallo Marcel coenders u heeft de verbuigingen van studeerbaar weer fout geschreven, want die beginnen met sudeer. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Net allemaal verwijderd ga ze zo weer invoeren [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 16:54 (CET) == Verbuigingen slijmoplossend == Hallo Marcel coenders alle verbuigingen van slijmoplossend beginnen met sijmoplossend. Graag verbeteren. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 18:48 (CET) :Had ik ook gezien, is verbeterd [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 18:55 (CET) == vraag == Mag ik iets vragen? Bent u gestopt met onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 11:46 (CET) :Ja daar ben ik mee gestopt. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 12:37 (CET) ::Is daar ook een reden voor of niet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 12:38 (CET) :::Erg veel werk, past niet in mijn werkschema, en volgens mij kun je het best zelf als je de voorbeelden volgt van andere woorden dat zijn dus 3 redenen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 13:06 (CET) ::::Lukt het wel als ik met een minder hoog tempo woorden aanmaak of bent u er gewoon helemaal mee gestopt? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 13:11 (CET) :::::Nee dan lukt het ook niet. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) ::::::Wel bedankt dat u eerst wel al mijn onvolledige pagina’s heeft aangevuld [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 14:41 (CET) :::::::Nog 1 vraag bent u voor altijd gestopt met onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen of tijdelijk. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 21 feb 2026 12:05 (CET) ::::::::Voor altijd [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 21 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) :::::::::Veel plezier nog op WikiWoordenboek en ik hoop dat u het naar uw zin heeft [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 21 feb 2026 13:11 (CET) == Zorgen dat mijn pagina’s minder onvolledig worden == Hallo Marcel coenders zullen we een manier bedenken hoe mijn onvolledige pagina’s toch minder onvolledig worden? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:32 (CET) :Heb je enige ervaring met programmeren. Veel van de handelingen voor het maken van een meer complete pagina zijn bij mij sterk geautomatiseerd. Ik gebruik Python en AutoHotKey. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:44 (CET) ::Nee ik heb daar niet veel verstand van [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:48 (CET) :::Had ik ook niet ik had alleen wat ervaring met BASIC de andere twee heb ik in de loop van de jaren geleerd. Heel bevredigend hoe je langzamerhand toch weer nieuwe vaardigheden kunt leren. Mijn programma's zijn eigenlijk heel simpel (voor mij) maar door een totaal gebrek aan transparantheid en gestructureerdheid niet echt geschikt voor overdracht naar anderen. :::als voorbeeld hier mijn Python programma dat ik gebruik voor toevoegen van meervouden / verkleinwoorden aan al bestaande lemma's :::def spatieweg (woord): ::: woord = woord.replace (" "," ") ::: woord = woord.replace ("·","") ::: woord = woord.replace (" ","") ::: woord = woord.replace ("="," ") ::: return woord :::def puntje (woord): ::: woord = woord.replace (" "," ") ::: woord = woord.replace (" ","·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("="," ") ::: woord = woord.replace (" ·"," ") ::: woord = woord.replace ("aa·","a·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("oo·","o·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("ee·","e·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("uu·","u·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("·ü","·u") ::: woord = woord.replace ("·ë","·e") ::: return woord :::def haakje (woord): ::: if woord > "": ::: woord = "[["+woord+"]]" ::: return woord :::hyper = "" :::hypo = "" :::drv = "" :::rel = "" :::ant = "" :::w0="" :::w1="" :::w2="" :::w2t="" :::w3="" :::w4="" :::plaatje="" :::wikipedia="" :::synoniem="" :::refs="" :::betekenis1 = "" :::betekenis2 = "" :::categorie1 = "" :::categorie2 = "" :::categorie3 = "" :::betekenis3 = "" :::wntr = "" :::samen1 = "" :::samen2 = "" :::samen3 = "" :::samen4 = "" :::ipa = "" :::ipa1 = "" :::if samen4 == "1": ::: samen = "*{{samen|nld|"+samen1+woordsoort1+samen2+woordsoort2+samen3+"}}" :::# schoorpaal :::# sche·per=========================================================================================================================" :::w0 ="woon·pro·ject" :::w1 = w0 + "" :::w2 = w0 +"s" :::#w2t = w0 + "n" :::w3 = w0 +" je" :::if w3 != "": ::: w4 = w3 + "s" :::#======================================================================================================= :::#=========================PROGRAMMA============================================== ::: :::w1s = spatieweg (w1) :::w1p = puntje (w1) :::w2s = spatieweg (w2) :::w2p = puntje (w2) :::w2h = haakje (w2s) :::w2ts = spatieweg (w2t) :::w2tp = puntje (w2t) :::w2th = haakje (w2ts) :::w3s = spatieweg (w3) :::w3p = puntje (w3) :::w3h = haakje (w3s) :::w4s = spatieweg (w4) :::w4p = puntje (w4) :::w4h = haakje (w4s) ::: :::#==================================WOORD :::print ("") :::print ("") :::if w2 != "": ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w2p) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-pl|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") :::if w2t != "": ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w2tp) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-pl|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") :::if w3 != "": ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w3p) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-dim|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") :::if w4 != "": ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w4p) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-dim-pl|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:56 (CET) :Ik begrijp dit ook echt niet is het ook goed als ik het af en toe zelfstandig doe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 12:00 (CET) ::er is een hulp middel "{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *xx·xx·xx <!--{{-etym-}}--> {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|||}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} {{f}} {{f}}/{{m}} {{n}} {{p}} # {{bijv-1|.... '''{{pn}}'''.}} <!-- deze pijlen verzetten als er bij de onderstaande koppen informatie te melden valt {{-writ-}} {{-homo-}} {{-syn-}} {{-ant-}} {{-drv-}} {{-rel-}} {{-quot-}} {{-prov-}} {{-expr-}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1.}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} --> nl-adjc-lemma}} nl-verb-lemma}} " je typt eerst {{subst: in daarna nl-noun-lemma}} dan sla je de pagina op en gaat hem daarna weer bewerken. er staat dan een heel sjabloon voor je klaar. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 12:06 (CET) :je vind deze code onderaan een bewerkingspagina onder het kopje stramienen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 12:10 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking == Beste Marcel coenders, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu u mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer kunt aanvullen heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:48 (CET) :zou je hierop willen reageren? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 17:47 (CET) ::nee [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:00 (CET) == Synoniemen toevoegen bij pagina’s == Nog 1 laatste vraag Hallo Marcel coenders dankuwel voor uw reactie, nee is voor mij een duidelijk antwoord. Doet u nog wel synoniemen toevoegen bij pagina’s of doet u dat ook niet meer ik heb een hele fijne samenwerking met u gehad en vond het fijn dat ik ook aan uw pagina’s heb mogen bijdragen. Groetjes en heel veel succes verder op Wikiwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:50 (CET) : "Ik heb nog geen reactie van u ontvangen, maar ik begrijp dat uw werkschema vol zit. Wanneer zou u tijd hebben om hier kort naar te kijken?"[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) == balseminetje == Hallo Marcel coenders voor mijn gevoel is balseminetje geen correct Nederlands, want als je balseminetje intikt zijn er geen zoekresultaten. Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 20:01 (CET) :[[balsaminetje]] wel!, typefout verbeterd ook bij [[balsaminetjes]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:24 (CET) == Spelfouten cultuurshokcursus == Hoi Marcel coenders zou u voortaan even kunnen kijken of het woord goed gespeld is voordat u het toevoegt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 15:30 (CET) == Aanmelding moderatoren == Kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:49 (CEST) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:54 (CEST) ::Maar als Marcel coenders echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:56 (CEST) :::Marcel coenders, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:30 (CEST) 9my21hhmjfa4lauoolpvi27vbznthvr 5504158 5504156 2026-03-30T19:40:51Z Marcel coenders 15906 /* Aanmelding moderatoren */ Reactie 5504158 wikitext text/x-wiki Dag Marcel, Kan u me laten weten waar u de afbeelding van het eco-teken vond? U voegde het in 2016 toe aan een pagina. Met vriendelijke groeten == "Meh" == Ik denk dat de uitspraak van [[meh]] niet helemaal klopt. Ik heb even moeten zoeken voor een voorbeeld: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6pehsx op 10 minuten. (of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PgQNtT4CyI op 2:35) Is wel in het Engels, maar Nederlands is praktisch hetzelfde. De NL nagesynchroniseerde versie "Geur van een Hoodie" kan ik even niet vinden, maar daarin zegt ze ook "meh". ::Ik heb mijn hogere schapen blaatkunde ingezet en het geluidsbestand aangepast [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 6 okt 2019 21:41 (CEST) Super overigens wat je voor WikiWoordenboek doet. Ik geloof dat we hier geen sterren/barnstars hebben, maar anders gaf ik je er één. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Alexis Jazz|- Alexis Jazz]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Alexis Jazz|overleg]]) 6 okt 2019 20:09 (CEST) ::Dank je, de suggestie alleen al is de gift zelf ... [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 6 okt 2019 21:39 (CEST) == Ontbrekend geluid op andere WikiWoordenboeken == Het viel me op dat [[:Categorie:Ontbrekend geluid]] vaak leeg is hier. Ik heb net even een script gemaakt om te controleren welke Nederlandse artikels geen geluidsbestand hebben op het Engelse WikiWoordenboek, want uiteindelijk zullen de meeste van deze woorden hier ook een eigen pagina krijgen. Het zijn er op het moment ongeveer 7000. Ik heb het lijstje [[Gebruiker:Robin van der Vliet/Ontbrekend geluid|hier]] opgeslagen. Zeg maar of je ook deze woorden wil uitspreken, want dan kan ik het lijstje dagelijks automatisch bijwerken. {{Gebruiker:Robin van der Vliet/Ondertekening}} 22 jan 2020 01:00 (CET) ::Ik ben begonnen met de woorden uit te spreken. Ben met de A klaar, maar bij nogal wat woorden heb ik eigenlijk grote twijfel of het überhaupt wel echt Nederlands is. Het controleren van de Engelse Wiktionary m.b.t. de Nederlandse woorden is misschien ook een mooi en nuttig project [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 jan 2020 16:59 (CET) :::Het viel me ook op dat er redelijk wat woorden in staan met een verouderde schrijfwijze (aensnellen, bierflesch, krygsgevangene, vleesch, vraagh, zyn). Ik weet niet wat je daar het beste mee kan doen... Het Engelse WikiWoordenboek neemt deze woorden gewoon op, en zet er dan het label "obsolete" bij. {{Gebruiker:Robin van der Vliet/Ondertekening}} 22 jan 2020 19:08 (CET) ::::Ben wat met de B bezig geweest maar het wordt met eigenlijk een beetje te gortig ... We hebben heel veel Nederlandse woorden ingesproken dus als een woord géén geluidsbestand heeft is de kans gewoon heel groot dat het geen Nederlands is. Het idee was heel goed maar het lijkt me dus niet een heel goede zaak om het te voltooien. Het controleren van de Nederlandse woorden op de wiktionary lijkt me wel een goed en nuttig project voor de liefhebber. En zo blijft het maken van woordenboeken een interessant en eindeloos project [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 jan 2020 20:02 (CET) :::::{{ping|Robin van der Vliet}}, voor het Engels bestaat er geen officieel vastgestelde spelling. Het is daarom begrijpelijk dat de Engelstalige wiktionary een aanpak heeft waarin elke schrijfwijze die valt te attesteren ook kan worden opgenomen. Voor een taal met een nogal woelige spellingsgeschiedenis als het Nederlands levert dat een grote rijkdom aan mogelijke vormen op (laat ik het positief benaderen). Omdat dit louter variaties in de schrijfwijze zijn, is het inderdaad onzinnig om hiervoor aparte geluidsbestanden te maken: voor de schrijfwijzen vanaf de 20e eeuw kan gewoon het bestaande bestand met de naam volgens de officiële spelling worden gebruikt. Voor oudere vormen zou ik geen geluidsbestanden gebruiken, want het is aannemelijk dat het Nederlands in de betreffende periode al wat anders klonk dan tegenwoordig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 jan 2020 12:32 (CET) == Schrijfwijzen die met cijfers beginnen == Bij woorden die met een getal beginnen zijn er vaak twee schrijfwijzen: eentje in letters en eentje waarin het telwoord is vervangen door cijfers gevolgd door een koppelteken ([[veertigjarig]] en [[40-jarig]]). Meestal voeg ik meteen beide vormen toe, en als er voor een van beide nog geen geluidsbestand bestaat, gebruik ik gewoon dat van de andere, omdat ze dezelfde uitspraak hebben. Als er voor geen van beide vormen een geluidsbestand bestaat, leek het me doelmatig om voor beide uit te gaan van één geluidsbestand, met de naam gebaseerd op de vorm met cijfers. Hoewel je dan beide vormen op de verzoekpagina ziet verschijnen, is het dan voldoende om het bestand met de cijfers in de naam aan te maken. Als je een andere voorkeur hebt, laat het even weten, dan pas ik mijn werkwijze aan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2020 09:55 (CET) :::Ik las dit bericht net na het voorlezen van alle getallen. Josseline vond het wel weer een fraai stukje hoogstaande intellectuele arbeid en vroeg zich af of dit doorging tot 13,5 miljard (de leeftijd van het universum). Maar goed ik heb dus beiden voorgelezen. :) [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 25 jan 2020 10:14 (CET) ::::Dan zal ik proberen nu verder toch beide bestanden te gebruiken. De vraag van Josseline heb ik mijzelf ook gesteld voordat ik aan het avontuur begon. Boven de duizendtallen moet er volgens de spelling een spatie worden ingevoegd en levert de schrijfwijze dus een combinatie van woorden op: zeshonderdtweeënveertig miljoen driehonderdachtienduizend vijfhonderdtwaalf levert dus een combinatie van vier woorden op. In principe is de hele klus voor wat betreft de hoofdtelwoorden voor het Nederlands geklaard met ::::a. de getallen van 0-999 ::::b. de duizendvouden vanaf 1.000 tot 999.000 ::::c. de honderdvouden vanaf 1100 tot 9900 (minus de duizendtallen) ::::d. de woorden voor machten van duizend volgens de lange schaal (bij mijn weten zijn dat er ook een kleine duizend, maar het merendeel wordt in de praktijk niet gebruikt) ::::e. een paar woorden die bijzondere getallen aanduiden. ::::De aantallen worden groter als we ook rekening houden met het al dan niet invoegen van "en" na honderd en het al of niet weglaten van "een" voor honderd of duizend. ::::In principe kennen de gewone telwoorden weer een rangtelwoord. Met andere afgeleide woorden zoals -jarig zijn de grenzen lastiger te vinden. Ik kijk meestal in bestaande bronnen hoe ver die gaan, peil dan steekproefgewijs of (en hoe ver) er vormen voor hogere getallen te vinden zijn en trek dan een simpele grens waarboven hooguit nog incidenteel een los geval ([[hapax]]) te vinden is. Die werkwijze maakt wel dat er vrij zeker vormen tussen zitten die (nog) niet te attesteren zijn, maar dat probleem lijkt me bij deze voor Nederlandssprekenden volstrekt doorzichtige vormen minder ernstig dan dat van een niet-Nederlandssprekende die zo'n zeldzame vorm tegenkomt en haar tevergeefs probeert op te zoeken. Bij de -jarigen leek 200 zo'n simpele grens, omdat mensen tot 122 oud zijn geworden en er onder die grens de nodige schildpadden, bomen en historische perioden zijn waarvan de (levens-)duur tot op een jaar nauwkeurig bekend is.--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2020 12:22 (CET) Dag {{ping|Marcel coenders}}, Voor alle zekerheid: ik heb nu een groot aantal verbogen vormen toegevoegd, waarbij de uitgeschreven vormen voor de uitspraak verwijzen naar het bestand voor de vormen die met cijfers beginnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2020 22:05 (CET) == oo. bestanden op commons == Hallo Marcel coenders, je hebt al heel wat werk verricht bij commons (dank voor je jarenlange inzet) en daar had ik net een vraagje over. Ik geef er de voorkeur aan om de beschrijving te linken naar nl.wiktionary. Waarschijnlijk hecht je daar zelf niet zo'n belang aan. Nu staan er door een kleine typo heel wat files met als beschrijving ''wikikwordenboek''. Ik vroeg me af of je dit ''in one go'' kan aanpassen. Ik had het er reeds over met [[:Commons:User talk:Vysotsky|Vysotsky]]. Thnks. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 07:51 (CET) ::De eerste 1000 files zijn veranderd, de rest volgt. Het is een langzaam proces dus ik kan niet de andere 500.000 files veranderen in nl.wiktionary maar daar zijn vast slimmere meisjes en jongens voor die dat wel kunnen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 07:57 (CET) :::Bedankt Marcel coenders, dat van die slimme meisjes en jongens, daar bedoel je wel het een of andere botje mee... {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 08:22 (CET) ::::Timmert de hamer of timmert de timmerman? Ik denk dan eerder aan de timmerman. De slimme meisjes en jongens kunnen het met behulp van een botje [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 08:28 (CET) :::::Alle 3600 wordenboeken zijn veranderd in woordenboek [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 26 feb 2020 08:17 (CET) == chevreau == Ik wil mij niet bezondigen aan ongewenste intimiteit met mieren en zeker niet met geiten, maar ik kan de betekenis "geitenlam" van [[chevreau]] alleen voor het Frans terugvinden, niet voor het Nederlands. Alles wat ik tegenkom is "geitenleer". Ik heb een sectie Frans met beide betekenissen aan het lemma toegevoegd en een Nederlands voorbeeld voor "geitenleer". Als je een vindplaats hebt voor "geitenlam" kunnen we die wellicht toevoegen; of als het eigenlijk om de Franse betekenis ging, zouden we die in de Nederlandse sectie kunnen verwijderen en de foto naar de Franse sectie verplaatsen. Ik wacht je reactie af voordat ik verder iets verander. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2020 10:32 (CET) == Ere wie ere toekomt == Vanavond hebben we de definitieve toestemming van prof. Marc Brysbaert van de Universiteit Gent gekregen om de meest recente versie van de prevalentiecijfers uit de bestanden op hun website te gaan gebruiken, in plaats van het bestand zoals ze dat eerder ook met woorden.org hebben gedeeld. Ik ga de projectpagina's de komende dagen aan deze nieuwe situatie aanpassen. Hij schreef me in een eerdere mail naar aanleiding van de stand van zaken "Dat is een echt titanenwerk. Goed te zien dat het veel gebruikt wordt." en dat leek me een passende lofprijzing om aan jou door te geven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 apr 2020 22:39 (CEST) :Voor de overgang naar de nieuwe cijfers wil ik ook een meer "centrale" opslag van de cijfers gaan toepassen. Dan hoef ik straks alleen het oude sjabloon "om te leiden" naar het nieuwe en kunnen de lemma's zelf vooralsnog ongewijzigd blijven. Bijkomend effect van deze verandering is dat je het nieuwe sjabloon {{Tl|Leesonderzoek-2013}} meteen in de nieuwe pagina van woorden uit het onderzoek kan opnemen: het zoekt zelf de juiste cijfers op. Voor de "nieuwe pagina's" heb ik die cijfers inmiddels klaargezet, voor de bestaande is dat nog even een klusje, maar omdat dat zich buiten de hoofdnaamruimte afspeelt kan ik het veilig door een bot laten doen. Ik heb het nieuwe sjabloon bij wijze van voorbeeld al ingevoegd in de lemma's waarmee je bezig bent. Het nieuwe sjabloon bevat een referentie, dus {{Tl|refs}} is ook vereist, maar die voegde je zelf toch al standaard toe. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mei 2020 13:41 (CEST) ::Hallo Marco, ik heb Josseline, mijn vrouw, natuurlijk uitgebreid gefeliciteerd met het feit dat ze getrouwd is met een internationaal en universitair erkende titaan, helaas maakte dat net wat minder indruk dan waar ik dacht recht op te hebben maar goed kan ik mee leven. Wat ik jammer vind aan het nieuwe sjabloon is dat er niet meer verwezen wordt naar een lijst met een opsomming van woorden die door N% van de Nederlanders en V% van de Vlamingen worden herkend ik zie bijvoorbeeld [[aanzweven]] ook niet in de lijst van woorden die door 77% van de Nederlanders wordt herkend. Misschien kan daar wat aangedaan worden. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 1 mei 2020 14:58 (CEST) :::Oei, Marcel, ik wil je natuurlijk nu geen tweede teleurstelling bezorgen. In het nieuwe sjabloon is ook de categorisering al ingebouwd, de enige reden dat die nog "uit" staat is dat ik eerst de tekst op de categorieën zelf wil aanpassen, omdat de te verwachten totalen natuurlijk ook gaan veranderen. Dus het gaat komende dagen allemaal goed komen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mei 2020 19:03 (CEST) :::De vereiste aanpassingen zijn doorgevoerd. Categorieën zouden nu weer als vanouds moeten werken. Als er toch nog ergens iets niet goed gaat, laat het me dan weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mei 2020 08:53 (CEST) == Weerváren en wederváren == Hallo Marcel, Zie [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Bestand:nl-wedervaren.ogg dit bestand]. De klemtóón ligt op de verkeerde syllábel. ;-) [[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 22 sep 2020 05:14 (CEST) :Als ik op Van Dale en mijn taalgevoel afga, hebben we hier te maken met een klemtoonhomogram. Het is overigens een subtiele, want naast het zelfstandig naamwoord blijft het natuurlijk altijd mogelijk de onbepaalde wijs zelfstandig te gebruiken. Toevoegen van het onbrekende bestand is zeker een verbetering, maar het bestaande bestand kan ook correct zijn. Ik heb [[wedervaren]] aan mijn bevindingen aangepast. Kan dit ieders instemming krijgen? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 sep 2020 14:03 (CEST) == [[groenwit]] en [[groen-wit]] == …zijn beide zowel zelfstandig naamwoord als bijvoeglijk naamwoord. "Groenwit" is een groenige tint wit, terwijl "groen-wit" uit zowel witte als groene vlakken bestaat. Voor mijn gevoel is er ook een subtiel verschil in klemtoon: GROENwit en groen-WIT. In principe kunnen deze dubbele combinaties bij alle kleuren voorkomen, maar feitelijk betekent wit-groen hetzelfde als groen-wit en kennelijk hebben taalgebruikers een voorkeur voor die laatste vorm. Bij Go Ahead is het ook altijd "rood-geel", nooit andersom. Daar staat tegenover dat de combinaties met koppelteken ook drieledig kunnen zijn, waarbij soms de eerste kleur weer wordt herhaald: Rotterdam is "wit-groen-wit". Er zit nog wel een masterscriptie Nederlands in om dit eens grondig uit te zoeken en van verklaringen te voorzien. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 sep 2020 23:13 (CEST) == [[rechteroever]] == Er is iets misgegaan met de link naar het plaatje. Had je al iets moois gevonden of moet de link gewoon weg? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2020 19:47 (CEST) ::Een ander, na deze opmerking ook meer toepasselijk, plaatje [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 5 okt 2020 20:01 (CEST) == colchicine == Hoi Marcel, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]])De uitspraak van [[colchicine]] is 'kolgieSIEne' met een stemloze keelklank van "lach". In dit geval doe ik er een berichtje bij, omdat het bestand ook tot [[en:Talk:colchicine|discussie]] bij onze Engelstalige collega's leidde. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2020 23:51 (CET) bedankt ~ == [[honingzoet]] plaatje == Hoi Marcel, Nu eens niet over geluid, maar over beeld. De afbeelding op honingzoet is op Commons voorgedragen voor verwijdering omdat expliciete toestemming van de schilder Jan Knap ontbreekt. Daar kunnen we vrees ik niet zoveel aan veranderen. Ik vermoed dat je de afbeelding en het citaat bewust als elkaar versterkende elementen hebt toegevoegd. Had je toen nog een next-best oplossing die we nu zouden kunnen gebruiken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2020 20:32 (CET) == samenstellingen met corona == Hoi Marcel, In de imposante lijst van samenstellingen die je aan [[corona]] hebt toegevoegd, heb ik net een paar aanpassingen volgens de spellingregels aangebracht. Iedere auteur mag een koppelteken invoegen voor de leesbaarheid waar hem dat voor zijn publiek nuttig lijkt, maar in een naslagwerk als WikiWoordenboek is het verstandig om de standaardschrijfwijze aan te houden, temeer omdat we dat op onze Hoofdpagina aankondigen. Ook "anti-coronafeest" is zo [[anticoronafeest]] geworden (ik heb het 'oude' geluidsbestand gebruikt). Omdat ik me kan voorstellen dat je meer coronalemma's in de pen hebt, kan ik me voorstellen dat deze aanpassingen je belangstelling hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2020 12:23 (CET) == speciaal verzoek geluidsbestanden == Hoi Marcel, Laat ik beginnen met de beste wensen voor jou en de jouwe. Na [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/Olaf|deze wijzigingen]], ben ik even nagegaan wat er aan de hand was, uitmondend in de concrete vraag waarover ik je op de Overlegpagina van Lotje heb aangeroepen. Door haar tussenkomst is "nl-staatsgreep.ogg" nu vrij voor een geluidsbestand, maar de hernoeming van het oude bestand is nog niet ideaal. Om te voorkomen dat iemand dat laatste probleem weer gaat "oplossen" door de oude naam te herstellen is dit wellicht een goed moment om "[[staatsgreep]]" in te spreken. Ik heb geen idee of dat een beetje in jouw klussenlijst valt in te passen, maar als het lukt is het mooi. Misschien is het dan mogelijk de volgende namen meteen mee te nemen, ik heb suggesties voor een bestandsnaam toegevoegd, maar als een ander systeem jou beter past, kan dat natuurlijk ook. Ik heb daarom op de betreffende pagina's nog geen links naar een ontbrekend geluidsbestand toegevoegd. Het zou principieel natuurlijk beter zijn als de ingesproken Wikipedia-artikelen allemaal "-article" in de bestandsnaam krijgen. Er zijn echter nog meer inconsistenties in de naamgeving. Alles op orde brengen betekent het hernoemen van tientallen bestanden en de daaruit voortvloeiende wijzigingen op Wikipedia en dat valt toch een beetje buiten mijn interessesfeer. Vandaar mijn wat pragmatische lijstje hieronder: de enige gevallen waarin een voorgelezen artikel uit de Nederlandse Wikipedia een bestandsnaam zonder "-article" heeft gekregen, terwijl het aannemelijk is dat wij er ook een lemma voor zullen maken. # [[San Marino]] als 'nl-san Marino.ogg' # [[Sem]] als 'nl-sem.ogg' # [[Semele]] als 'nl-semele.ogg' (SEEmeelee) # [[Socrates]] als 'nl-socrates.ogg' # [[Verenigde Staten van Amerika]] als 'nl-verenigde Staten van Amerika.ogg' Op het moment dat ik dit schrijf zijn er nog twee lemma's die hier ontbreken, maar daar ga ik verandering in brengen. O, en nog bedankt voor het blauw maken van de kersttoespraakwoorden. Onze beginscore was hier zelfs 99,1%. Mijn indruk is dat er bij deze toespraak nog meer werk gemaakt wordt van de toegankelijkheid dan bij de troonrede, want het rood had voor een groot deel betrekking op uitspraak of stilistische keuzes en de zinnen lijken me gemiddeld nog wat korter. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2020 12:25 (CET) --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2020 12:25 (CET) ::ik heb de veranderingen aangebracht [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 28 dec 2020 22:23 (CET) :::Schitterend. Door de aanvulling zo nadrukkelijk te presenteren heb ik het woord waar het allemaal mee begon wat laten ondersneeuwen: [[staatsgreep]]. Of vond je het na de "Verenigde Staten van Amerika" beter om even tot 6 januari te wachten met de "staatsgreep"? :::Ter zijde. Ik heb de maker van webwoordenboek.nl mijn assistentie aangeboden bij het oplossen van eventuele problemen, maar voor wie weet hoe het werkt is het updaten (met een achterstand van een paar dagen) niet heel moeilijk: de Wikimedia Foundation publiceert voortdurend zogenaamde datadumps van al haar projecten (alleen bij de allergrootsten gaat dat iets moeizamer). Je ziet mij misschien af en toe wat van die "fix Lint error"-bewerkingen uitvoeren: die hebben onder meer tot doel toekomstig hergebruik eenvoudiger te maken door zoveel mogelijk de algemene html5-standaard aan te houden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 10:50 (CET) ::::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}} eerder had ik de file m.b.t. tot het artikel [[:Afbeelding:Nl-Verenigde Staten van Amerika-article.oga|'''Verenigde Staten van America''']]. Als president wordt (gezien de datum van de opname) Barack Obama genoemd. Ergens moet dit toch verwarring wekken, dacht ik. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 11:29 (CET) :::::{{ping|Lotje}} Kan het zijn dat er een voltooid deelwoord in je eerste zin ontbreekt? Het project om Wikipedia-artikelen in te lezen lijkt wat stil te liggen. Het is ook nauwelijks te doen om van duizenden, laat staan miljoenen pagina's ingesproken versies bij te houden. Een meer kansrijke strategie is om pagina's zo in te richten dat ze met de steeds beter wordende spraaktechnologie goed kunnen worden voorgelezen. Maar ik ga me daar niet echt mee bezighouden, er is ook hier op WikiWoordenboek nog veel nodig om de toegankelijkheid voor tal van doelgroepen te verbeteren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 12:53 (CET) ::::::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, inderdaad "beluisterd". Bedankt voor de opmerkzaamheid :-) Je hebt inderdaad gelijk: het gebruik van spraaktechnologie om de toegankelijkheid te verbeteren is dé oplossing bij uitstek. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 12:58 (CET) :::::::{{Ping|Marcel coenders}}, weet je wat zou gebeuren mocht ik de spelling van '''nl-san Marino.ogg''' via een rename in '''nl-San Marino.ogg''' willen omzetten? Wordt het dan ook automatisch een .oga? Zoja, meen ik dat het beter is wanneer je een nieuwe file aanmaakt. Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2020 08:09 (CET) == [[San Marino]] == Hier zou ik, als je het goed vindt, [[:Afbeelding:TE-Collage San Marino.png|deze collage]] toevoegen. Een begeleidende tekst is waarschijnlijk overbodig. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 13:03 (CET) == [[corioliskracht]] == Hoi Marcel, Misschien voor jou geheel overbodig, maar zelf had ik voor het uitvogelen van de uitspraak van "coriolis" wel baat bij [https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=238&v=hoqC0x3TKCQ deze clip]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2021 11:38 (CET) == [[coelacant]][[coelacanth|(h)]] == Hoi Marcel, Dit is wel weer om lekker diep onder water te zwemmen en wanneer we daar een fossiele vis tegenkomen, leek het de taxonomen een goed idee die een naam te geven met een fossiele spelling. Deze oe is het Oudgriekse οῖ en via het Latijn wordt dat in gangbaar Nederlands een lange ee. Mensen die hechten aan bepaalde klassieke tradities gebruiken ook wel "eu" of juist weer "oj". In woorden als "[[economie]]" en "[[feniks]]" is de uitspraak tegenwoordig ook in de schrijfwijze duidelijk, maar bij soortnamen heeft een internationaal gebruikelijke schrijfwijze ook zo haar voordelen. Dat laatste heeft de h op het eind niet kunnen redden, zodat wij dezelfde uitspraak op twee lemma's (kunnen) gebruiken. Ik heb nu alleen op het hoofdlemma om een aangepast geluidsbestand gevraagd. Als het nieuwe bestand niet nl-coelacant.ogg heet, zou ook het lemma met de oude schrijfwijze met -th moeten worden aangepast. Vandaar dit bericht. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jun 2021 10:10 (CEST) PS We kunnen nog 3 spellingveranderingen verwachten: in 2035 "celacant", in 2055 "celakant" en in 2075 "selakant". ''That what we call a fish will smell as bad by any other name...'' == Popo == Omdat er rond de namen [[Popocatépetl]] en [[Popocatepetl]] veel onduidelijkheid is, leek het me wel nuttig om hier twee lemma's aan te wijden. Daardoor moet ik jou weer lastigvallen met twee uitspraakbestanden. Het leek me voor de duidelijkheid handig om de verschillen hier nog even aan te geven: hoewel de oorspronkelijke naam uit het Nahuatl komt, ontlenen we de officiële naam aan het Spaans. Want dat is nu de officiële taal van Mexico en er is ook vrijwel geen rechtstreekse uitwisseling tussen Nahuatl en Nederlands geweest. Dat Popocatépetl wordt uitgesproken als pooPOOkaa'''TEE'''peetl (dus met de hoofdklemtoon op ''té'' en een nevenklemtoon op de twee ''po''). Aan Annie M.G. Schmidt en Harry Bannink hebben we het liedje Popocatepetl te danken, waarin (vermoedelijk opzettelijk) de uitspraak verder is vernederlandst tot POOpooKAAtuh'''PETL''', met de hoofdklemtoon op ''petl'' en nevenklemtonen op de eerste ''po'' en ''ca''. Deze schrijfwijze en uitspraak kom ik ook voor het restaurant tegen. Mijn favoriete graffiti las ik eind jaren zeventig op een bushokje van de TET bij Drienerlo: :Ik wou dat ik een vulkaan was.<br/> :De hele dag op mijn rug liggen roken<br/> :en dan de mensen horen zeggen:<br/> :"Kijk, hij werkt!" De eerste twee regels passen goed bij Popocatépetl, de laatste twee passen nog beter bij jou. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 aug 2021 00:32 (CEST) ==uitspraak [[gender|gendér]] (muziekinstrument)== Een [[Overleg_gebruiker:Benimation|nieuwe collega]] wees mij erop dat er een verschil is tussen het geluidsbestand en de IPA-weergave van de uitspraak van "gendér" (de "xylofoon" van een Indonesisch gamelanorkest. Daarom meld ik me weer hier met een verzoek om een nieuwe versie, ook omdat het vanuit het Nederlands benaderd om vrij ongewone klanken gaat. Qua klinkers en slotmedeklinker rijmt het woord op [[geblèr]], de beginmedeklinker is die van [[goal]], daarna is het genoeg om "bl" door "nd" te vervangen. Hierna is het wellicht verassend te horen dat het instrument juist tamelijk vriendelijk kabbelende klanken voortbrengt. Nu ik hier toch ben, Wikimedia Nederland wil 13 november weer een conferentie beleggen (live of online is nog niet helemaal zeker). Ik kreeg gisteren opnieuw een herinnering of ik nog een onderdeel wilde aanmelden. Ik aarzel, maar ik was benieuwd of jij nog ideeën in die richting hebt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2021 00:19 (CEST) == Holy Phagwa! == De ph aan het begin van Phagwa komt van de फ uit het Hindi, niet van de Φ uit het Grieks. Daarom lijkt het me waarschijnlijk dat zij in [[phagwafeest]] ook als ph wordt uitgesproken, zoals in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7MXWUQOPJg dit nieuwsberichtje]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2021 13:18 (CEST) ::verbeterd[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 17 sep 2021 16:11 (CEST) == Joods-Nederlandse "losse" woorden == Omdat de oorspronkelijke site van Sofeer volgend jaar stopt, ben ik, nu raadplegen nog mogelijk is, druk doende om onze Joods-Nederlandse woordenschat zoveel mogelijk bij te werken (vooral ook met de Hebreeuwse herkomst). In dat verband viel me op dat er bij de uitdrukkingen die uit meer woorden bestaan soms wel en soms niet pagina's voor de afzonderlijke woorden zijn aangemaakt. Soms ontbrak zo'n doorverwijzing al op Sofeer zelf, soms hebben we die (nog) niet overgenomen. Het is mijn bedoeling om deze woorden (naar schatting tegen de 200) alsnog op te nemen, maar daarbij ook aan te geven dat ze alleen in de betreffende uitdrukkingen voorkomen en ze in het woordsoortsjabloon ook een 0-parameter te geven, zodat ze de tellingen niet beïnvloeden. De complete uitdrukkingen zijn al ingesproken en het lijkt me niet strikt noodzakelijk dat ook nog eens te doen voor de losse woorden die (in het Nederlands) toch alleen binnen die uitdrukking voorkomen en waarnaar altijd wordt verwezen. Afhankelijk van jouw opvatting over de wenselijkheid om deze woorden ook afzonderlijk in te spreken, kan ik bij het toevoegen {{Tl|audio}} meenemen of weglaten. Ik verwacht overigens dat er vermoedelijk een nog groter aantal plaatsnamen, voornamen en dergelijke is, dat tegenwoordig ook voor opname in aanmerking komt, maar zo ver ben ik nog niet met dit klusje gevorderd.--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 nov 2021 23:12 (CET) Zul je altijd zien: vandaag kom ik op [[Sjema]] dat als naam van een gebed (vergelijk: [[Onzevader]]) ook zelfstandig voor opname in aanmerking komt, maar ook deel is van [[kriat Sjema]]. Dit leek me een geval dat zeker een eigen uitspraakbestand verdient (zie ook de rode link op het laatstgenoemde lemma. Een voorbeeld van een van de bovengenoemde losse woorden waar ik over twijfel is [[sjemoerot]], waar ik {{Tl|audio}} vooralsnog heb weggelaten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 nov 2021 12:22 (CET) Met het uitzoeken van de losse Hebreeuwse woorden ben ik nu klaar. Nu je nog geen reactie hebt gegeven, ga ik ze de komende dagen gaan toevoegen zonder {{Tl|audio}}. Als het toch zinvol blijkt deze woorden van een eigen geluidsbestand te voorzien, kan ik het sjabloon aan de hand van het bestand dat ik nu heb gemakkelijk alsnog toevoegen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2021 19:50 (CET) :Lijkt me een uitstekend idee want ik ben zeker geen moedertaalspreker van het Hebreeuws :) [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 5 nov 2021 19:54 (CET) ::Beste Marcel, ::Ik vroeg mij af of ik u zou kunnen mailen? ::Met vriendelijke groet, ::Tim [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/217.103.105.65|217.103.105.65]] 9 mrt 2022 19:19 (CET) :::Je kunt altijd een bericht zetten op mijn overlegpagina https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Marcel_coenders [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2022 19:28 (CET) == Provençaals == Deze {{WikiW|Helpdesk#Uitspraak_Proven%C3%A7aals|vraag aan de helpdesk}} lijkt me een goed punt. Zou je er eens naar kunnen kijken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2021 08:44 (CET) :Ik heb in een moeite door even naar andere woorden met c-cedille gekeken en daarvan leek mij alleen [[cachaça]] een probleem, maar dan meer vanwege de ch die eigenlijk als sj moet worden uitgesproken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2021 08:57 (CET) == Goed nieuws, betere werk en beste wensen == Beide gefeliciteerd met jullie kleinzoon. Zo'n vooruitziende blik is natuurlijk het [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Jack&oldid=2305412 betere werk]. Rest mij nog om jullie, met Jack en zijn ouders, fijne feestdagen en het beste voor het nieuwe jaar te wensen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 dec 2021 14:10 (CET) == Paleontoloog == Kan het zijn dat er bij de vervanging van het geluidsbestand op [[paleontoloog]] iets is misgegaan? Het klinkt nu net als het oude bestand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2022 09:57 (CET) == Oekraïens == Door de actualiteit krijgen sommige lemma's opeens extra aandacht. Daardoor kom ik je even lastigvallen met het volgende. Het trema op Oekraïens geeft alleen aan dat er een scheiding tussen de a en de i is, dus geen ai als in [[rail]], maar a-i zoals in [[naïeve]]. In de uitspraak op [[Oekraïense]], [[Oekraïense grivna]] en [[Oekraïensen]] is er als het ware nog een tweede scheiding ingeslopen "aaIEjense", terwijl het gewoon "aaIEnse" is. Ik gok dat dit een contaminatie met de Latijnse uitgang "-iense" is, die wel zo wordt uitgesproken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2022 14:03 (CET) == Fotootjes == Zie [[Overleg:groepsfototje]] aub. == passte == Dit word is Nederengels. Het komt van Engels ''to pass'' en wordt dan ook (min of meer) zo uitgesproken. Je uitspraakbestand is dus opnieuw fout. :In de gangbare Nederlandse uitspraak wordt allang niet meer geprobeerd om het Engels na te bootsen: "pass" rijmt gewoon op "kaas". In mijn oren klinkt het nieuwe bestand prima. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mei 2022 21:11 (CEST) == Aanmelding als moderator == Voor dingen als het verwijderen van pagina's en het blokkeren van spammers heb je een paar extra opties in de programmatuur nodig. Traditioneel horen gebruikers het vertrouwen van de gemeenschap te vragen voordat ze die opties krijgen. De officiële term is {{WikiW|Moderator}} en je kunt je {{WikiW|Aanmelding moderators|hier}} aanmelden, waarna er een week reacties worden afgewacht om te zien of het vertrouwen voldoende is. Dit is op deze wiki meestal een formaliteit, maar deze stap hoort erbij. Je kunt voor wat betreft de motivatie gewoon naar de discussie in De kroeg verwijzen. Wanneer je de aanmelding hebt toegevoegd, zorg ik voor de vervolgstappen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 11:16 (CEST) == Geen optie == Ik denk dat [[aankoopoptie|dit]] niet is wat je bedoelde. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mei 2022 13:17 (CEST) ::bedankt[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 23 mei 2022 13:39 (CEST) == Taalparameter == De contextlabels zijn nog waardevoller met de taalparameter '''nld''' om ze in de goede categorie te kunnen plaatsen. Je zet nu onbedoeld veel woorden in [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Pagina's met sjabloon zonder ingevulde taal|deze categorie]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 23:50 (CEST) == Hier ging iets mis == Ik vermoed dat je [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek%3AHoofdpagina&type=revision&diff=4565612&oldid=4559756 hier] iets anders deed dan je bedoeling was. Als je de hoofdpagina ergens als verstekwaarde in een script hebt zitten, is het een goed idee dat te veranderen: de bescherming van pagina's werkt niet bij moderatoren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2022 11:41 (CEST) == [[bouwkosten]] == Dag {{ping|Marcel coenders}}!<br /> Ik denk dat er iets mis is met het enkelvoud van [[bouwkosten]]. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 10 okt 2022 12:14 (CEST) == Soemano als eigennaam == Dag Marcel, ik kwam langs de pagina [[Soemano]] (eigennaam). Naar mijn weten ben ik de enige persoon in het Nederlandse taalgebied met deze voornaam, dus ik was erg nieuwsgierig wat u bewogen heeft om een WikiWoordenboek pagina daarvoor aan te maken. Ik voel me in ieder geval vereerd. 😉 (Bij de uitspraak ligt de klemtoon overigens op de eerste lettergreep, niet de tweede.) [[Gebruiker:Accon4|Accon4]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Accon4|overleg]]) 2 jan 2023 21:20 (CET) == [[brandblusapparaat]] == Hallo Marcel coenders, vind je [[:Bestand:Hohenloher Freilandmuseum - Baugruppe Mühlental - Mahlmühle aus Weipertshofen - Flur - blaue Wand mit Feuerlöscher (2).jpg|deze]] afbeelding duidelijker? Zou je er iets op tegen hebben dat ik de afbeelding vervang? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 feb 2023 06:46 (CET) :Prachtig, nu ook op [[brandblusser]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 25 feb 2023 19:02 (CET) == Hoofdpagina == Uit de 4 laatste onbedoelde veranderingen van de Hoofdpagina krijg ik indruk dat je script automatisch de Hoofdpagina verandert als er ergens iets misgaat. Is het mogelijk iets in te bouwen waardoor dat niet gebeurt? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jul 2023 16:13 (CEST) == afloopdatum == Dag Marcel. Er is iets niet helemaal goed aan de zin "[[afloopdatum#Zelfstandig_naamwoord|tijdstip dat een bepaalde afspraak, regeling geldigheid stopt]]". Misschien kan je die verbeteren. Met vriendelijke groet, [[Gebruiker:ErikvanB|ErikvanB]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:ErikvanB|overleg]]) 29 jul 2023 06:37 (CEST) == uitspraak [[fäh]] == Mijn indruk is dat [[c:File:Nl-fäh.ogg|dit geluidsbestand]] niet klinkt zoals je bedoeld hebt. Volgens Van Dale klinkt het net zo als [[fee]], dus wat mij betreft is het ook een optie om dat bestand dubbel te gebruiken, maar qua systematiek is een afzonderlijk bestand natuurlijk wel beter. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 sep 2023 12:09 (CEST) == door jou dubbel gedefinieerde woorden == Hallo Marcel, Ik heb nogal wat woorden aangetroffen die door jou dubbel zijn gedefinieerd.<br> Als het om een paar gaat, pas ik die altijd aan.<br> Dit keer zijn het er wel erg veel en ik laat ze daarom nu aan jou over.<br> Volgens mij kun je het probleem relatief eenvoudig corrigeren als je nogmaals met autokey de batch uitvoert maar nu met de extra statement sendinput ^a{del} wat de pagina helemaal leeg maakt:<br><br> run, https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title="pagina"&action=edit"<br> sleep 10000<br> sendinput {tab}^{end}<br> sleep 500<br> ;<br> sendinput ^a{del}<br> ; met eerst geheel verwijderen oude inhoud!<br> items met meer dan één definitie van een taal<br> [[Abcoudse]] [[BBQ'ende]] [[bijlenende]] [[borstvoedende]] [[brijende]] [[bussende]] [[defriendende]] [[doorbouwende]] [[doorkervende]] [[doorklinkende]] [[doorknagende]] [[dooroefenende]] [[doorploegende]] [[doorregenende]] [[doorrennende]] [[doorrijgende]] [[doorscheurende]] [[doorschuddende]] [[doorsnuffelende]] [[doorstikkende]] [[doorstralende]] [[doorvliegende]] [[doorvoelende]] [[doorvretende]] [[doorwandelende]] [[doorwarmende]] [[doorzendende]] [[doorzingende]] [[doorzwemmende]] [[drolemoji]] [[fikkende]] [[foutrekenende]] [[genderbendende]] [[goedrekenende]] [[haaiende]] [[handhelds]] [[heengestapt]] [[heenzendende]] [[hielende]] [[houtvlottende]] [[inscheppende]] [[inverdienende]] [[inzendende]] [[kleinzende]] [[klossende]] [[kluizende]] [[knikkebenende]] [[koersende]] [[kollende]] [[kriekende]] [[kuilende]] [[lijntekenende]] [[medeondertekenende]] [[meeberekenende]] [[meetekenende]] [[meezendende]] [[mijnende]] [[misradende]] [[moerende]] [[natregenende]] [[nazendende]] [[neerregenende]] [[nokkende]] [[omgietende]] [[omslingerende]] [[omverrennende]] [[omwendende]] [[omwikkelende]] [[omzwevende]] [[onderstoppende]] [[ontvriendende]] [[opspittende]] [[opstuikende]] [[opzendende]] [[overijlende]] [[overpratende]] [[oversnijdende]] [[overspuitende]] [[overtillende]] [[overzeilende]] [[overzendende]] [[pierende]] [[plankende]] [[rabattende]] [[ribbende]] [[ronddienende]] [[rondkrijgende]] [[rondzendende]] [[samenrottende]] [[scharrelbenende]] [[schendende]] [[schrotende]] [[sponsende]] [[stoffende]] [[stokkende]] [[stroppende]] [[tegentekenende]] [[terugherkennende]] [[terugkennende]] [[terugrekenende]] [[terugzendende]] [[toewendende]] [[toezendende]] [[touwende]] [[treilende]] [[vernietigingscentrum]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 feb 2024 10:46 (CET) :Alles is weer verbeterd n.l. door bij geschiedenis de laatste bewerking weg te halen, jouw voorstel vind ik een beetje gevaarlijk want soms is de oude pagina een stuk uitgebreider dan mij nieuwe pagina en soms is er bijvoorbeeld sprake van een andere woordsoort (in dit geval zou het ook een bijvoeglijk naamwoord kunnen zijn. Bedankt voor het trouw weghalen van dubbelingen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 2 feb 2024 14:01 (CET) == Experimenteren met sjablonen == Hoi Marcel, even een tip. Om ervoor te zorgen dat onze lezers een pagina snel te zien krijgen zijn er wereldwijd tientallen servers waarop een kopie van elke pagina is opgeslagen. Als wij een bewerkte pagina opslaan, wordt de wikitext daarvan vertaald en naar al die servers gekopieerd. Wanneer we een sjabloon opslaan, worden achter de schermen alle pagina's die dat sjabloon gebruiken opnieuw vertaald en opgeslagen op al die servers. Het tijdelijk wijzigen van een veelgebruikt sjabloon betekent dat er twee van zulke operaties vlak achter elkaar worden uitgevoerd. Daarom is het beter zo'n sjabloon pas op te slaan als je zeker bent van de verandering die je wil aanbrengen. Om te experimenteren heeft het bewerkingsvenster voor sjablonen onderaan de mogelijkheid ''Voorvertoning weergeven met dit sjabloon'': als je daarin paginanamen waarop het sjabloon al gebruikt wordt invult, krijg je via de knop ''Voorvertoning weergeven'' te zien hoe het daarop uitpakt. Deze vorm van experimenteren voorkomt dat lezers de indruk krijgen dat onze site traag is geworden of te maken krijgen met informatie die eigenlijk niet voor hun bedoeld was, zoals: '''femme''' <span {{gramstijl}}>de (vrouwelijk)</span>. Als je meer complexe tests wil doen, kun je het sjabloon onder een andere naam kopiëren en daarmee experimenten op pagina's in je eigen gebruikersruimte. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 feb 2024 10:49 (CET) == Parameters in citeersjabloon == Hoi Marcel, Dank voor de vriendelijke woorden over {{Tl|-l-}}, ook al is het nog niet helemaal uitontwikkeld. Bij het dagelijks onderhoud liep ik aan tegen twee puntjes waar je systeem wellicht nog iets beter kan worden afgesteld. #De parameter ''datum'' komt de afgelopen weken vaak dubbel voor, waarbij het de eerste keer kort na het begin staat, met een onjuiste datum die zo op het oog wel eens uit het citaat daarvoor lijkt te zijn overgebleven. Voor recente voorbeelden kun je kijken in de geschiedenis van [[verzamelbundel]], [[vochtvlek]], [[wagenmenner]], [[wijnproeven]], [[wijnspeciaalzaak]] en [[winterkwartier]]. #Sinds een paar weken gebruik je ''bezocht'' in plaats van ''bezochtdatum''. Dat laatste kan ik Snorrebot vrij eenvoudig laten aanpassen, maar het leek me praktisch dat ik even afwacht tot je jouw instellingen hebt kunnen bijstellen. Je kunt de lemma's die al in de pijplijn zitten zo ongecorrigeerd plaatsen: straks is het dan na één doorloop allemaal weer in orde. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 apr 2024 10:30 (CEST) :Het waren een aantal zaken die niet zichtbaar zijn op de gepubliceerde pagina vandaar dat het me niet is opgevallen heb het nu aangepast. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 3 apr 2024 11:29 (CEST) ::OK, dan ga ik aan de slag. Terzijde, ik weet niet of je de vraag op [[Overleg:oen]] al hebt gezien. Ik weet niet of dit inherent is aan de programmatuur, of dat er iets aan te doen is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 apr 2024 11:22 (CEST) :::Nieuwe versie ingesproken die dat probleem niet heeft. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 4 apr 2024 11:31 (CEST) == ontsporing == Misschien was je er al mee bezig, maar op [[seintoestellen]] is kennelijk iets misgegaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jun 2024 19:38 (CEST) == Geluidsbestand [[taël]] == Dit blijft [[Overleg:taël|een lastige]], omdat hij wat tegen de gangbare uitspraak van het Nederlands ingaat. Bij veel woorden op -el gaat het om een onbeklemtoonde sjwa (tafel, wimpel) en wanneer het echt als è wordt uitgesproken, krijgt het meestal ook meteen de klemtoon: tabel, vaarwel. Maar "taël" rijmt min of meer op "[[natel]]" als je de -t- daaruit weglaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jul 2024 09:45 (CEST) == ontsporing == Vermoedelijk heeft de programmatuur je [[realiteitsgehalte|hier]] een ongewenste verrassing bezorgd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2024 10:18 (CEST) * Voor het geval dat je het nog niet had gezien, ook op [[fantasiebeeld]] en [[frisdrankflesjes]] staat vermoedelijk niet wat je beoogde. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2024 21:06 (CEST) == Amerikanse == N.a.v. [//nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=dom&diff=prev&oldid=4554668 deze bewerking]: staat er echt "Amerikanse"? [[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 21 okt 2024 14:41 (CEST) :Type fout verbeterd bedankt [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 21 okt 2024 16:12 (CEST) == comiteetjes == Hallo Marcel,<br> Ik had gisteren weer eens een controleprogramma laten lopen en het viel me op dat je sinds de laatste keer flink bezig bent geweest met de comiteetjes.<br> Wat de woordafbreking betreft, die is altijd: co·mi·té·tjes.<br> Ik heb gisteren al heel wat veranderingen aangebracht maar er rest nog een aantal.<br> Zou jij het erg vinden om die te doen?<br><br> Hieronder staan ze:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[beheerscomiteetjes]] <td>be·heers·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>be·heers·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[beroepscomiteetjes]] <td>be·roeps·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>be·roeps·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[beurscomiteetjes]] <td>beurs·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>beurs·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[bidcomiteetjes]] <td>bid·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>bid·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[directiecomiteetjes]] <td>di·rec·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>di·rec·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[drankweercomiteetjes]] <td>drank·weer·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>drank·weer·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[Elfstedencomiteetjes]] <td>Elf·ste·den·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>Elf·ste·den·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[feestcomiteetjes]] <td>feest·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>feest·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[flatcomiteetjes]] <td>flat·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>flat·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[groencomiteetjes]] <td>groen·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>groen·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[hakbijlcomiteetjes]] <td>hak·bijl·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>hak·bijl·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[handelscomiteetjes]] <td>han·dels·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>han·dels·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[interim-comiteetjes]] <td>in·te·rim-·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>in·te·rim-·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[kindercomiteetjes]] <td>kin·der·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>kin·der·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[landbouwcomiteetjes]] <td>land·bouw·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>land·bouw·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[mensenrechtencomiteetjes]] <td>men·sen·rech·ten·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>men·sen·rech·ten·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[ministercomiteetjes]] <td>mi·nis·ter·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>mi·nis·ter·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[ministerscomiteetjes]] <td>mi·nis·ters·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>mi·nis·ters·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[monitoringcomiteetjes]] <td>mo·ni·to·ring·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>mo·ni·to·ring·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[Nobelcomiteetjes]] <td>No·bel·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>No·bel·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[Oranjecomiteetjes]] <td>Oran·je·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>Oran·je·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[organisatiecomiteetjes]] <td>or·ga·ni·sa·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>or·ga·ni·sa·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[oudercomiteetjes]] <td>ou·der·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>ou·der·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[overlegcomiteetjes]] <td>over·leg·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>over·leg·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[partijcomiteetjes]] <td>par·tij·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>par·tij·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[protestcomiteetjes]] <td>pro·test·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>pro·test·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[redactiecomiteetjes]] <td>re·dac·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>re·dac·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[regeringscomiteetjes]] <td>re·ge·rings·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>re·ge·rings·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[remuneratiecomiteetjes]] <td>re·mu·ne·ra·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>re·mu·ne·ra·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[schoolcomiteetjes]] <td>school·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>school·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[sportcomiteetjes]] <td>sport·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>sport·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[staatscomiteetjes]] <td>staats·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>staats·co·mi·té·tjes </table> Ik hoop dat verder alles goed met je gaat in het regenachtige Holland. Wij waren 5 weken in Holland op bezoek maar zijn weer blij met ons Tenerife-zonnetje, Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 09:55 (CET) :Omdat het me praktischer leek, heb ik het door Snorrebot laten doen: met zo'n net lijstje is dat in een paar minuten gefikst. Als dat toch niet optimaal is, laat het gerust weten, het kan ook in een paar minuten worden teruggedraaid. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:11 (CET) :Volgens mij had ik al een verbeterprogramma over deze woorden laten gaan maar misschien had ik er paar gemist zie bijvoorbeeld [[staatscommiteetjes]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:32 (CET) ::[[staatscomiteetjes]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:33 (CET) :::Oepsie: Ik had wel het comiteetje maar niet de comiteetjes verbeterd. Bedankt Marco [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:42 (CET) == refs == Hallo Marcel Ik zie dat je de laatste tijd bij veel pagina's het sjabloon <nowiki>{{citeer}}</nowiki> plaatst.<br> Zou je in zo'n geval erop willen letten om ook aan het eind van de Nederlandse sectie het sjabloon <nowiki>{{refs}}</nowiki> te plaatsen?<br> Er waren nogal wat pagina's waar ik die moest aanbrengen.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 17 nov 2024 17:47 (CET) ==[[amfitheatergewijs]]/[[amfitheatergewijze]] == Dag, ik zie dat je deze twee pagina's net weer hebt verwijderd. Volgens mij is dat niet echt nodig, aangezien nevenvormen zonder verbindings''-s'' bijna altijd zijn toegestaan. Hetzelfde geldt trouwens voor bijv. veel schrijfwijzen met een optioneel koppelteken voor het leesgemak (''[[anti-aanbaklaag]]'', ''[[jazz-zanger]]'' e.d.). Ik vind het al langer inconsequent dat die schrijfwijzen hier geweerd worden, terwijl andere niet door de TU officieel erkende woorden en woordvormen doorgaans wel worden opgenomen. Is het misschien tijd om hier eens een wat bredere discussie over te starten? [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 24 nov 2024 12:58 (CET) :Er is een wezenlijk verschil tussen het bestaan van woorden en uitspraakvarianten enerzijds en verschillende schrijfwijzen bij gelijkblijvende uitspraak anderzijds. De Taalunie geeft uitsluitsel over de laatste vraag, niet over de eerste. :Het vermelden van schrijfwijzen die nooit officiële spelling zijn geweest lijkt me geen goed idee. We hebben in het huidige tempo nog ettelijke decennia werk om de vormen te beschrijven die dat wél zijn (geweest). Dankzij flexie, afleiding en samenstelling levert iedere variant weer veel extra werk op als we naar enige consistentie streven. In de praktijk is de kans groot dat het een willekeurig allegaartje wordt. Daar hebben onze gebruikers niet zoveel aan. Heel wat gebruikers raadplegen een Nederlands woordenboek juist om snel te achterhalen wat de standaardschrijfwijze is (geweest). Het wordt voor die gebruikers alleen maar omslachtiger als ze steeds moeten nagaan wat de status van een vermelde vorm is. Bovendien zijn varianten in schrijfwijze niet willekeurig met elkaar te combineren: als je koppeltekens noodzakelijk acht voor je publiek, hoor je dat bij alle in aanmerking komende woorden wél of juist niet te doen. Als je x als ks spelt, hoor je qu als kw te spellen. Wie dat weet, kent de achterliggende regel en heeft de vermelding in een woordenboek niet nodig. Maar als je die regel niet kent, is de vermelding in een woordenboek niet erg verhelderend, helemaal als dat noodgedwongen op een wat willekeurige manier gebeurt. :Als het gangbaar Nederlands uitspraakvarianten kent die volgens de spellingregels een andere schrijfwijze opleveren, vormen die in de benadering van WikiWoordenboek een afzonderlijk trefwoord, al was het maar omdat er onder {{Tl|-pron-}} en {{Tl|-etym-}} verschillende informatie moet worden gegeven. Dat kan inderdaad leiden tot het vermelden van "amfitheatergewijs". Zulke woorden moeten wel worden geattesteerd en volgens de spellingregels zijn geschreven. De Taalunie pretendeert uitdrukkelijk niet om woord(vorm)en te erkennen: het gaat simpelweg om een heel uitgebreide verzameling voorbeelden bij de spellingregels waar ze wél over gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2024 00:33 (CET) == Geluidsbestand pion == Bij de eerste betekenis van [[pion]] (pión) hebben onze voorgangers in het verre verleden per abuis een bestand gemaakt waarop "spion" is te horen. Ik heb het nu even op de gebruikelijke wijze aangemeld voor een nieuw bestand, maar in dit geval zou ik liever het oorspronkelijke bestand vervangen, want dat is onder deze naam gewoon verkeerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2024 09:08 (CET) == Request == Apologies that I do not speak Dutch, however I was patrolling edits from smaller wikis when I came across the contributions of [[Special:Contributions/81.204.39.34|81.204.39.34]]. I just wanted to ask if these types of edits are normal. [[Gebruiker:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JJPMaster|overleg]]) 28 nov 2024 17:18 (CET) :Looks like this editor was testing the possibilities of editing WikiWoordenboek: they were clearly not improvements. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2024 17:01 (CET) == zkar? == Ruim 9 jaar terug voegde je als jongensnaam [[zkar]] toe, als 2e in een serie die begon met [[Zyan]], vervolgde met [[Yvan]] en eindigde met [[Aart]]. Dat ziet eruit als een reeks met jongensnamen van 4 letters in omgekeerd alfabetische volgorde. Qua spelling moet een naam met een hoofdletter beginnen en "zk" is in het Nederlands ook een ongebruikelijk begin van een woord. Ik kan "Zkar" ook nergens terugvinden. Daarom denk ik dat er wellicht iets is misgegaan bij het verwerken van een groter bestand. Kun jij nog achterhalen wat de bedoeling was? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2024 13:49 (CET) :zkar met of zonder hoofdletter is waarschijnlijk een jeugdzonde ik heb het verwijderd. Groetjes Marcel [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 8 dec 2024 15:34 (CET) == [[merchandise]], geluidsbestand ≠ IPA? == Merk ik juist op dat het [[commons:File:Nl-merchandise-ogg|geluidsbestand mechandise]] niet lijkt te klinken als de fonetische WNT weergave [http://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=merchandise /ˈmʏːrtʃəndɑjs/] en wat ik via http://ipa-reader.xyz hoor? [[Gebruiker:Arx - 83|Arx - 83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Arx - 83|overleg]]) 11 dec 2024 15:43 (CET) :Ik merk de [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=merchandise&diff=5218118&oldid=5217383 aanpassing van het geluidsbestand] en hiermee lijkt issue opgelost. Dank voor deze en de vele andere bijdragen. [[Gebruiker:Arx - 83|Arx - 83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Arx - 83|overleg]]) 13 dec 2024 00:48 (CET) == Straattaal of Surinaams? == Van [[soso]] en [[trobi]] is goed aan te tonen dat het Surinaamse woorden zijn. Het is wat lastiger om degelijke bronnen te vinden waaruit blijkt dat ze ook in Nederlandse zinnen worden gebruikt. Ik heb de bewerker die ze toevoegde daar ook [[Overleg gebruiker:Saverinio|al naar gevraagd]]. Ik ben zelf met wisselend resultaat bezig om per lemma vindplaatsen op te sporen, maar dat vraagt wel wat tijd. Als ik ze niet kan vinden, is het mijn voornemen om zulke lemma's om te zetten naar woorden in het Surinaams in plaats van het Nederlands. Is dat wat jou betreft oké? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 dec 2024 20:20 (CET) :Lijkt me een uitstekend idee Nog de beste wensen voor Kerst en Nieuwjaar [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 18 dec 2024 20:43 (CET) == [[ravijn]] == Hallo Marcel counders, je [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=ravijn&diff=prev&oldid=3962286 voegde deze afbeelding toe], en ik vroeg me af of iets zoals [[:afbeelding:Canyonlands np.jpg|"Een '''ravijn''' in Canyonlands National Park"]] misschien zinvol is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2025 13:59 (CET) == spaties in sjablonen == Hallo Marcel, De laatste tijd plaats je spaties om allerlei woorden in sjablonen.<br> Ik heb gemerkt dat dat niet altijd goed gaat.<br> Bij voorbeeld bij het woord '''[[make vol]]'''.<br> Als je daar spaties plaatst rond het woord '''volmaken''' in het sjabloon <nowiki>{{aanv-w|volmaken}}</nowiki> verschijnt er een niet juiste link naar de vervoegingstabel.<br> Misschien moet je die spaties liever weglaten.<br> Als je dat toch wilt, overleg dan eerst met Marco: misschien dat hij een oplossing weet.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2025 13:12 (CET) :Ik heb de meeste spaties uit de betreffende lemma's verwijderd al weet ik niet of het helemaal compleet is. :Bijzonder is wel dat probleem alleen maar zit in de verwijzing naar de vervoegingstabel en niet in de verwijzing naar het werkwoordlemma zelf. :Ik heb mijn programmatuur (ook voor de niet-werkwoordsvormen) 'spatieloos' gemaakt maar de betreffende lemma's niet aangepast omdat het daar volgens mij geen problemen oplevert. :Misschien kan [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) hier ook even naar kijken. :Groetjes Marcel :Dit was het oorspronkelijke bericht van Kvdgeus :Hallo Marcel, :De laatste tijd plaats je spaties om allerlei woorden in sjablonen. :Ik heb gemerkt dat dat niet altijd goed gaat. :Bij voorbeeld bij het woord '''[[make vol]]'''. :Als je daar spaties plaatst rond het woord '''volmaken''' in het sjabloon <nowiki>{{aanv-w|volmaken}}</nowiki> verschijnt er een niet juiste link naar de vervoegingstabel. :Misschien moet je die spaties liever weglaten. :Als je dat toch wilt, overleg dan eerst met Marco: misschien dat hij een oplossing weet. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2025 14:40 (CET) ::Tot de eigenaardigheden van de MediaWikiprogrammatuur is dat bij parameters die met een naam worden opgegeven (<nowiki>{{wanneer|jaar= 2025 }}</nowiki>) eventuele spaties eromheen worden weggelaten, maar bij parameters zonder naam (<nowiki>{{wanneer| 2025 }}</nowiki>) de spaties worden meegenomen in de verwerking. En omdat in dit geval de werkwoordnaam wordt aangevuld met "/vervoeging" om er een wikilink van te maken, komt er dan een spatie voor de deelstreep waardoor de link niet meer werkt. In principe is het wel mogelijk om een sjabloon te laten controleren of de parameter nog getrimd moet worden, maar we hebben erg veel sjablonen met onbenoemde parameters, dus dat zou wel een hele klus worden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jun 2025 20:36 (CEST) == Argument "nld" in sjabloon <nowiki>{{nomact|nld}}</nowiki> == Hallo, Marcel, Onlangs heb je mijn wijziging op de pagina [[heropflakkering]] ongedaan gemaakt, waardoor het sjabloon <nowiki>{{nomact|nld}}</nowiki> weer in gebruik is. Ik begrijp niet helemaal waarom je dit hebt gedaan, gezien er nu een hoofdletter middenin een zin staat, terwijl het woord in kwestie geen eigennaam of initiaalwoord is. Ook staat er in de beschrijving van het sjabloon alleen dat "l" als argument een kleine letter oplevert, dus ik weet niet wat je hoopt te bereiken door "nld" als argument mee te geven. Met vriendelijke groet, [[Gebruiker:110521sgl|110521sgl]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:110521sgl|overleg]]) 4 jun 2025 16:25 (CEST) :mijn foutje ... [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 4 jun 2025 18:09 (CEST) ~ mij foutje~~ == uitspraak "compromis" == Ronald is begonnen onze standaardweergave IPA stelselmatig te vergelijken met die op woordenlijst.org. Naast een reeks systematische verschillen en fouten in dat bestand levert dit ook een reeks correcties bij ons op, die soms ook weer leiden tot verzoeken om gewijzigde geluidsbestanden. Een bijzonder geval is in dit verband het woord [[compromis]] en de daarvan afgeleide verkleinwoorden en meervouden, omdat die zowel vernederlandst (-mis) als meer op zijn Frans (-mie) kunnen worden uitgesproken en dat heeft weer effect op de schrijfwijze. Op dit moment staan de geluidsbestanden niet bij de schrijfwijze waar ze bij horen: je zou ze gewoon kunnen hernoemen. Daarnaast heeft het trefwoord nog een oud geluidsbestand dat alle vormen zowel op zijn Frans als vernederlandst laat horen. Dat is een systeem dat we niet meer volgen. Hier lijken mij twee eenvoudige bestanden, eentje met alleen het trefwoord in vernederlandste vorm en eentje met alleen het trefwoord op zijn Frans voldoende: de meervouden en verkleinwoorden hebben immers eigen pagina's. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jun 2025 00:12 (CEST) :Een nobel werk om alle IPA's en uitspraken te controleren ik zal de verbeteringen gaan inspreken. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 jun 2025 07:30 (CEST) == Nieuwe vorm van linkspam == Toen ik een nieuwe gebruiker wou gaan verwelkomen, viel mij opeens op dat de "vindplaats" die deze op [[roaming]] had toegevoegd wel de NOS noemde, maar linkte naar een heel andere site, nota bene helemaal Engelstalig. Dat is kennelijk een nieuw soort linkspam, verborgen in een citeersjabloon. In plaats van een welkom is het nu een blokkade voor onbepaalde tijd geworden, maar het kan zijn dat er meer pogingen volgen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jul 2025 17:24 (CEST) == Meervoudsvorm van maandnamen == De oude namen van maanden werden vaak meer als een soort eigennaam gebruikt. Bij een aantal zegt het WNT expliciet "geen meervoud". Misschien is het beter om hier alleen meervouden te vermelden als die ook echt in bronnen zijn terug te vinden, anders zijn we de geschiedenis aan het herschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 16:46 (CEST) == fulltimebasis == Volgens woordenlijst.org is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=fulltimebasis&os=fulltime*&pos=AA%7CNOU%7CRES fulltimebasis] de enige officiële spelling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 sep 2025 16:15 (CEST) :Maar er wordt wel doorverwezen naar taaladvies waarin fulltime medewerker / fulltime-medewerker / fulltimemedewerker alle drie worden goedgekeurd terwijl alleen fulltimemedewerker in de lijst staat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 sep 2025 17:07 (CEST) ::Als je fulltime als bijvoeglijk naamwoord gebruikt, kun je het met een spatie spellen. In het eerste geval is het geen woord of vaste verbinding; vergelijk ''[[rodekool]]'' en ''[[rode]] [[kool]]''. Het tweede geval gaat over het invoegen van een koppelteken, wat in een samenstelling altijd mogelijk is wanneer er reden is om te veronderstellen dat dat de lezers anders in verwarring zullen raken, een beetje vergelijkbaar met de mogelijkheid om een extra klemtoon te markeren met een accentteken op de betreffende klinker(s). Dit soort variaties kunnen op het trefwoord zelf worden aangegeven, maar we beschrijven ze niet op een aparte pagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 sep 2025 14:41 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het toevoegen van zoveel woorden 19 sep 2025 16:54 (CEST) == Aanpassing verzoekpagina == Dag Marcel, Bij het voorgaande bedankje sluit ik me natuurlijk graag aan. Je hebt zojuist op de verzoekpagina ook de lijsten met recent toegevoegde woorden weggehaald. Was dat je bedoeling? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 okt 2025 12:53 (CEST) Ik heb de top-80 ondertussen zelf bijgewerkt, dus daar kan iedereen weer op losgaan. Dit zijn zelfstandige naamwoorden uit het Referentiebestand Nederlands, een wat oudere referentielijst voor het maken van vertaalwoordenboeken. Dit bestand bevatte ook heel wat woorden in een spelling die niet (meer) correct is, maar die heb ik er (hopelijk) allemaal uitgefilterd. Het zijn vaak wel termen die een kwart eeuw terug meer werden gebruikt dan nu. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 okt 2025 13:18 (CEST) == [[rooksalon]] == Hallo Marcel coenders {{ping|MarcoSwart}} zou [[:afbeelding:Koningswijk, 1000 Brussel, Belgium - panoramio (96).jpg|deze]] ondertussen beschikbare afbeelding meer duidelijkheid brengen? Vanwege de 3 landstalen bedoel ik. thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 07:05 (CEST) == Compleet maken van WikiWoordenboek == Hallo Marcel coenders, zullen we samen proberen WikiWoordenboek compleet te maken, als je plannen hebt hoe we dat kunnen doen laat ze dan achter op zijn overlegpagina. Met vriendelijke groet 11 nov 2025 09:17 (CEST) Ik heb gereageerd op mijn andere overlegpagina en mijn tijdelijke account heet nu ~2025-33234-20 en ik ben elke dag aanwezig dus je ziet elke dag mijn nieuwe woorden == [[screenshot]] == Hallo Marcel coenders, fijn dat je een afbeelding toevoegde. Zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:ScreenCapture.PNG|"Een '''schreenshot''' van het lemma "Amsterdam" op Wikipedia"]] en ik vroeg me af of dit dichter bij huis, in het Nederlands misschien geschikt is. thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 16:36 (CET) == Ik ben de komende tijd minder actief Marcel coenders == Hoi Marcel coenders, ik wil zeggen dat ik heb geantwoord op je bericht met de bovenstaande titel op de overlegpagina van MarcoSwart 2025 11:44 (CEST) == [[haaienbek]] == Dag Marcel coenders, zonet plaatste ik een extra afbeelding bij het woord. Had je misschien een grotere foto beschikbaar [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=haaienbek&diff=3776307&oldid=3774567 hiervan]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 05:46 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste Marcel coenders. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:13 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:06 (CET) == dubbele IPA's == Hallo Marcel, Allereerst nog de beste wensen voor 2026!!!<br> Ik heb wat controles gedaan op de IPA's en zag dat je soms twee IPA's in één sjabloon <nowiki>{{IPA-nl-standaard|}}</nowiki> plaatst.<br> Dat is niet de bedoeling want dan klopt er echt niets meer van.<br> Als er twee mogelijkheden zijn om een woord uit te spreken moeten die elk in één <nowiki>{{IPA-nl-standaard|}}</nowiki> worden geplaatst (met een komma ertussen).<br> Zie bij voorbeeld bij https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=autozaak&diff=5433042&oldid=5413645<br> Vaak is het mogelijk de twee IPA's tot één te maken omdat het verschil alleen zit in het wel of niet hoorbaar uitspreken van de n.<br> Dat heb ik gedaan bij https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=dierenzaak&diff=5433045&oldid=5413614<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 18:08 (CET) == vraag == Hallo Marcel coenders zou u mijn bijdragen nog even willen verbeteren als hoe u dat altijd doet. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:35 (CET) :Ik zou trouwens ook wel willen weten wanneer u er tijd voor heeft. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) ::Ik bedoel eigenlijk iets anders als hoe u het nu doet ik bedoel dat ik bijvoorbeeld de pagina airtrack heb aangemaakt en hoe u die pagina daarna hebt verbeterd dat bedoel ik. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:49 (CET) :::Ik bedoel niet alleen het woordgeslacht. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:58 (CET) ::::Als u er tijd voor heeft laat dan een bericht achter op mijn overlegpagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 12:08 (CET) == Verbuigingen van puistachtig == Hallo Marcel coenders u heeft puistachtig correct geschreven, maar alle verbuigingen beginnen met puitstachtig zou u die pagina’s willen hernoemen? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 19:12 (CET) :Bedankt [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 19:22 (CET) ::Graag gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 19:22 (CET) == Fouten in overtreffende trappen == Hallo Marcel, Ik ben de verbuigingen van de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden een beetje aan het controleren.<br> Het viel me op dat je vaak de overtreffende trappen verkeerd hebt ingevoerd.<br> Zie bij voorbeeld de wijzigingen die ik heb aangebracht bij :<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=zwavelachtigst&diff=5437284&oldid=4007351<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=zwavelachtigste&diff=5437287&oldid=4007352<br> en bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=rosachtigst&diff=5437294&oldid=3877045<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=rosachtigste&diff=5437297&oldid=3877046<br> <br> Veel van deze narigheid kan worden voorkomen door gebruik te maken van standaardsjablonen zoals:<br> <nowiki>{{adjcomp|p=1|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}e]]|[[{{pn}}er]]|[[{{pn}}ere]]|[[{{pn}}t]]|[[{{pn}}te]]|part={{pn}}|partcomp=[[{{pn}}ers]]}} </nowiki> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :Ik hoop dat ik deze 'jeugdzondes' uit 2019 nu wat minder maak, bedankt voor je oplettende controle werk. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:22 (CET) == Geluidsbestand 'worstelen' == Misschien had je hem al op de radar, maar voor alle zekerheid vraag ik ook je aandacht voor [[Overleg:worstelen|deze opmerking]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 23:43 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo Marcel coenders ik kan geen tijdelijk account aanmaken en heb daarom dit account aangemaakt ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Als u mijn onvolledige pagina’s nog aan wil vullen laat dan een reactie achter op dit account en niet op ~2025-37261-51. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 21:08 (CET) :Misschien is het een goed idee om je onvolledige pagina's minder onvolledig te maken. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 21:12 (CET) ::Ik ben trouwens ‘s nachts meestal niet aanwezig [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 21:24 (CET) == Verbuigingen studeerbaar == Hallo Marcel coenders u heeft de verbuigingen van studeerbaar weer fout geschreven, want die beginnen met sudeer. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Net allemaal verwijderd ga ze zo weer invoeren [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 16:54 (CET) == Verbuigingen slijmoplossend == Hallo Marcel coenders alle verbuigingen van slijmoplossend beginnen met sijmoplossend. Graag verbeteren. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 18:48 (CET) :Had ik ook gezien, is verbeterd [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 18:55 (CET) == vraag == Mag ik iets vragen? Bent u gestopt met onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 11:46 (CET) :Ja daar ben ik mee gestopt. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 12:37 (CET) ::Is daar ook een reden voor of niet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 12:38 (CET) :::Erg veel werk, past niet in mijn werkschema, en volgens mij kun je het best zelf als je de voorbeelden volgt van andere woorden dat zijn dus 3 redenen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 13:06 (CET) ::::Lukt het wel als ik met een minder hoog tempo woorden aanmaak of bent u er gewoon helemaal mee gestopt? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 13:11 (CET) :::::Nee dan lukt het ook niet. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) ::::::Wel bedankt dat u eerst wel al mijn onvolledige pagina’s heeft aangevuld [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 14:41 (CET) :::::::Nog 1 vraag bent u voor altijd gestopt met onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen of tijdelijk. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 21 feb 2026 12:05 (CET) ::::::::Voor altijd [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 21 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) :::::::::Veel plezier nog op WikiWoordenboek en ik hoop dat u het naar uw zin heeft [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 21 feb 2026 13:11 (CET) == Zorgen dat mijn pagina’s minder onvolledig worden == Hallo Marcel coenders zullen we een manier bedenken hoe mijn onvolledige pagina’s toch minder onvolledig worden? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:32 (CET) :Heb je enige ervaring met programmeren. Veel van de handelingen voor het maken van een meer complete pagina zijn bij mij sterk geautomatiseerd. Ik gebruik Python en AutoHotKey. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:44 (CET) ::Nee ik heb daar niet veel verstand van [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:48 (CET) :::Had ik ook niet ik had alleen wat ervaring met BASIC de andere twee heb ik in de loop van de jaren geleerd. Heel bevredigend hoe je langzamerhand toch weer nieuwe vaardigheden kunt leren. Mijn programma's zijn eigenlijk heel simpel (voor mij) maar door een totaal gebrek aan transparantheid en gestructureerdheid niet echt geschikt voor overdracht naar anderen. :::als voorbeeld hier mijn Python programma dat ik gebruik voor toevoegen van meervouden / verkleinwoorden aan al bestaande lemma's :::def spatieweg (woord): ::: woord = woord.replace (" "," ") ::: woord = woord.replace ("·","") ::: woord = woord.replace (" ","") ::: woord = woord.replace ("="," ") ::: return woord :::def puntje (woord): ::: woord = woord.replace (" "," ") ::: woord = woord.replace (" ","·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("="," ") ::: woord = woord.replace (" ·"," ") ::: woord = woord.replace ("aa·","a·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("oo·","o·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("ee·","e·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("uu·","u·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("·ü","·u") ::: woord = woord.replace ("·ë","·e") ::: return woord :::def haakje (woord): ::: if woord > "": ::: woord = "[["+woord+"]]" ::: return woord :::hyper = "" :::hypo = "" :::drv = "" :::rel = "" :::ant = "" :::w0="" :::w1="" :::w2="" :::w2t="" :::w3="" :::w4="" :::plaatje="" :::wikipedia="" :::synoniem="" :::refs="" :::betekenis1 = "" :::betekenis2 = "" :::categorie1 = "" :::categorie2 = "" :::categorie3 = "" :::betekenis3 = "" :::wntr = "" :::samen1 = "" :::samen2 = "" :::samen3 = "" :::samen4 = "" :::ipa = "" :::ipa1 = "" :::if samen4 == "1": ::: samen = "*{{samen|nld|"+samen1+woordsoort1+samen2+woordsoort2+samen3+"}}" :::# schoorpaal :::# sche·per=========================================================================================================================" :::w0 ="woon·pro·ject" :::w1 = w0 + "" :::w2 = w0 +"s" :::#w2t = w0 + "n" :::w3 = w0 +" je" :::if w3 != "": ::: w4 = w3 + "s" :::#======================================================================================================= :::#=========================PROGRAMMA============================================== ::: :::w1s = spatieweg (w1) :::w1p = puntje (w1) :::w2s = spatieweg (w2) :::w2p = puntje (w2) :::w2h = haakje (w2s) :::w2ts = spatieweg (w2t) :::w2tp = puntje (w2t) :::w2th = haakje (w2ts) :::w3s = spatieweg (w3) :::w3p = puntje (w3) :::w3h = haakje (w3s) :::w4s = spatieweg (w4) :::w4p = puntje (w4) :::w4h = haakje (w4s) ::: :::#==================================WOORD :::print ("") :::print ("") :::if w2 != "": ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w2p) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-pl|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") :::if w2t != "": ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w2tp) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-pl|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") :::if w3 != "": ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w3p) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-dim|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") :::if w4 != "": ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w4p) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-dim-pl|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:56 (CET) :Ik begrijp dit ook echt niet is het ook goed als ik het af en toe zelfstandig doe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 12:00 (CET) ::er is een hulp middel "{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *xx·xx·xx <!--{{-etym-}}--> {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|||}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} {{f}} {{f}}/{{m}} {{n}} {{p}} # {{bijv-1|.... '''{{pn}}'''.}} <!-- deze pijlen verzetten als er bij de onderstaande koppen informatie te melden valt {{-writ-}} {{-homo-}} {{-syn-}} {{-ant-}} {{-drv-}} {{-rel-}} {{-quot-}} {{-prov-}} {{-expr-}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1.}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} --> nl-adjc-lemma}} nl-verb-lemma}} " je typt eerst {{subst: in daarna nl-noun-lemma}} dan sla je de pagina op en gaat hem daarna weer bewerken. er staat dan een heel sjabloon voor je klaar. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 12:06 (CET) :je vind deze code onderaan een bewerkingspagina onder het kopje stramienen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 12:10 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking == Beste Marcel coenders, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu u mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer kunt aanvullen heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:48 (CET) :zou je hierop willen reageren? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 17:47 (CET) ::nee [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:00 (CET) == Synoniemen toevoegen bij pagina’s == Nog 1 laatste vraag Hallo Marcel coenders dankuwel voor uw reactie, nee is voor mij een duidelijk antwoord. Doet u nog wel synoniemen toevoegen bij pagina’s of doet u dat ook niet meer ik heb een hele fijne samenwerking met u gehad en vond het fijn dat ik ook aan uw pagina’s heb mogen bijdragen. Groetjes en heel veel succes verder op Wikiwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:50 (CET) : "Ik heb nog geen reactie van u ontvangen, maar ik begrijp dat uw werkschema vol zit. Wanneer zou u tijd hebben om hier kort naar te kijken?"[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) == balseminetje == Hallo Marcel coenders voor mijn gevoel is balseminetje geen correct Nederlands, want als je balseminetje intikt zijn er geen zoekresultaten. Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 20:01 (CET) :[[balsaminetje]] wel!, typefout verbeterd ook bij [[balsaminetjes]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:24 (CET) == Spelfouten cultuurshokcursus == Hoi Marcel coenders zou u voortaan even kunnen kijken of het woord goed gespeld is voordat u het toevoegt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 15:30 (CET) == Aanmelding moderatoren == Kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:49 (CEST) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:54 (CEST) ::Maar als Marcel coenders echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:56 (CEST) :::Marcel coenders, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:30 (CEST) ::::Marcel coenders kiest tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:40 (CEST) tqtfone5ex7jdds0sxn4vzulwxv5kzi 5504164 5504158 2026-03-30T19:47:06Z Latijn 65243 /* Aanmelding moderatoren */ Reactie 5504164 wikitext text/x-wiki Dag Marcel, Kan u me laten weten waar u de afbeelding van het eco-teken vond? U voegde het in 2016 toe aan een pagina. Met vriendelijke groeten == "Meh" == Ik denk dat de uitspraak van [[meh]] niet helemaal klopt. Ik heb even moeten zoeken voor een voorbeeld: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6pehsx op 10 minuten. (of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PgQNtT4CyI op 2:35) Is wel in het Engels, maar Nederlands is praktisch hetzelfde. De NL nagesynchroniseerde versie "Geur van een Hoodie" kan ik even niet vinden, maar daarin zegt ze ook "meh". ::Ik heb mijn hogere schapen blaatkunde ingezet en het geluidsbestand aangepast [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 6 okt 2019 21:41 (CEST) Super overigens wat je voor WikiWoordenboek doet. Ik geloof dat we hier geen sterren/barnstars hebben, maar anders gaf ik je er één. {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Alexis Jazz|- Alexis Jazz]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Alexis Jazz|overleg]]) 6 okt 2019 20:09 (CEST) ::Dank je, de suggestie alleen al is de gift zelf ... [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 6 okt 2019 21:39 (CEST) == Ontbrekend geluid op andere WikiWoordenboeken == Het viel me op dat [[:Categorie:Ontbrekend geluid]] vaak leeg is hier. Ik heb net even een script gemaakt om te controleren welke Nederlandse artikels geen geluidsbestand hebben op het Engelse WikiWoordenboek, want uiteindelijk zullen de meeste van deze woorden hier ook een eigen pagina krijgen. Het zijn er op het moment ongeveer 7000. Ik heb het lijstje [[Gebruiker:Robin van der Vliet/Ontbrekend geluid|hier]] opgeslagen. Zeg maar of je ook deze woorden wil uitspreken, want dan kan ik het lijstje dagelijks automatisch bijwerken. {{Gebruiker:Robin van der Vliet/Ondertekening}} 22 jan 2020 01:00 (CET) ::Ik ben begonnen met de woorden uit te spreken. Ben met de A klaar, maar bij nogal wat woorden heb ik eigenlijk grote twijfel of het überhaupt wel echt Nederlands is. Het controleren van de Engelse Wiktionary m.b.t. de Nederlandse woorden is misschien ook een mooi en nuttig project [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 jan 2020 16:59 (CET) :::Het viel me ook op dat er redelijk wat woorden in staan met een verouderde schrijfwijze (aensnellen, bierflesch, krygsgevangene, vleesch, vraagh, zyn). Ik weet niet wat je daar het beste mee kan doen... Het Engelse WikiWoordenboek neemt deze woorden gewoon op, en zet er dan het label "obsolete" bij. {{Gebruiker:Robin van der Vliet/Ondertekening}} 22 jan 2020 19:08 (CET) ::::Ben wat met de B bezig geweest maar het wordt met eigenlijk een beetje te gortig ... We hebben heel veel Nederlandse woorden ingesproken dus als een woord géén geluidsbestand heeft is de kans gewoon heel groot dat het geen Nederlands is. Het idee was heel goed maar het lijkt me dus niet een heel goede zaak om het te voltooien. Het controleren van de Nederlandse woorden op de wiktionary lijkt me wel een goed en nuttig project voor de liefhebber. En zo blijft het maken van woordenboeken een interessant en eindeloos project [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 jan 2020 20:02 (CET) :::::{{ping|Robin van der Vliet}}, voor het Engels bestaat er geen officieel vastgestelde spelling. Het is daarom begrijpelijk dat de Engelstalige wiktionary een aanpak heeft waarin elke schrijfwijze die valt te attesteren ook kan worden opgenomen. Voor een taal met een nogal woelige spellingsgeschiedenis als het Nederlands levert dat een grote rijkdom aan mogelijke vormen op (laat ik het positief benaderen). Omdat dit louter variaties in de schrijfwijze zijn, is het inderdaad onzinnig om hiervoor aparte geluidsbestanden te maken: voor de schrijfwijzen vanaf de 20e eeuw kan gewoon het bestaande bestand met de naam volgens de officiële spelling worden gebruikt. Voor oudere vormen zou ik geen geluidsbestanden gebruiken, want het is aannemelijk dat het Nederlands in de betreffende periode al wat anders klonk dan tegenwoordig. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 jan 2020 12:32 (CET) == Schrijfwijzen die met cijfers beginnen == Bij woorden die met een getal beginnen zijn er vaak twee schrijfwijzen: eentje in letters en eentje waarin het telwoord is vervangen door cijfers gevolgd door een koppelteken ([[veertigjarig]] en [[40-jarig]]). Meestal voeg ik meteen beide vormen toe, en als er voor een van beide nog geen geluidsbestand bestaat, gebruik ik gewoon dat van de andere, omdat ze dezelfde uitspraak hebben. Als er voor geen van beide vormen een geluidsbestand bestaat, leek het me doelmatig om voor beide uit te gaan van één geluidsbestand, met de naam gebaseerd op de vorm met cijfers. Hoewel je dan beide vormen op de verzoekpagina ziet verschijnen, is het dan voldoende om het bestand met de cijfers in de naam aan te maken. Als je een andere voorkeur hebt, laat het even weten, dan pas ik mijn werkwijze aan. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2020 09:55 (CET) :::Ik las dit bericht net na het voorlezen van alle getallen. Josseline vond het wel weer een fraai stukje hoogstaande intellectuele arbeid en vroeg zich af of dit doorging tot 13,5 miljard (de leeftijd van het universum). Maar goed ik heb dus beiden voorgelezen. :) [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 25 jan 2020 10:14 (CET) ::::Dan zal ik proberen nu verder toch beide bestanden te gebruiken. De vraag van Josseline heb ik mijzelf ook gesteld voordat ik aan het avontuur begon. Boven de duizendtallen moet er volgens de spelling een spatie worden ingevoegd en levert de schrijfwijze dus een combinatie van woorden op: zeshonderdtweeënveertig miljoen driehonderdachtienduizend vijfhonderdtwaalf levert dus een combinatie van vier woorden op. In principe is de hele klus voor wat betreft de hoofdtelwoorden voor het Nederlands geklaard met ::::a. de getallen van 0-999 ::::b. de duizendvouden vanaf 1.000 tot 999.000 ::::c. de honderdvouden vanaf 1100 tot 9900 (minus de duizendtallen) ::::d. de woorden voor machten van duizend volgens de lange schaal (bij mijn weten zijn dat er ook een kleine duizend, maar het merendeel wordt in de praktijk niet gebruikt) ::::e. een paar woorden die bijzondere getallen aanduiden. ::::De aantallen worden groter als we ook rekening houden met het al dan niet invoegen van "en" na honderd en het al of niet weglaten van "een" voor honderd of duizend. ::::In principe kennen de gewone telwoorden weer een rangtelwoord. Met andere afgeleide woorden zoals -jarig zijn de grenzen lastiger te vinden. Ik kijk meestal in bestaande bronnen hoe ver die gaan, peil dan steekproefgewijs of (en hoe ver) er vormen voor hogere getallen te vinden zijn en trek dan een simpele grens waarboven hooguit nog incidenteel een los geval ([[hapax]]) te vinden is. Die werkwijze maakt wel dat er vrij zeker vormen tussen zitten die (nog) niet te attesteren zijn, maar dat probleem lijkt me bij deze voor Nederlandssprekenden volstrekt doorzichtige vormen minder ernstig dan dat van een niet-Nederlandssprekende die zo'n zeldzame vorm tegenkomt en haar tevergeefs probeert op te zoeken. Bij de -jarigen leek 200 zo'n simpele grens, omdat mensen tot 122 oud zijn geworden en er onder die grens de nodige schildpadden, bomen en historische perioden zijn waarvan de (levens-)duur tot op een jaar nauwkeurig bekend is.--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 jan 2020 12:22 (CET) Dag {{ping|Marcel coenders}}, Voor alle zekerheid: ik heb nu een groot aantal verbogen vormen toegevoegd, waarbij de uitgeschreven vormen voor de uitspraak verwijzen naar het bestand voor de vormen die met cijfers beginnen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 27 jan 2020 22:05 (CET) == oo. bestanden op commons == Hallo Marcel coenders, je hebt al heel wat werk verricht bij commons (dank voor je jarenlange inzet) en daar had ik net een vraagje over. Ik geef er de voorkeur aan om de beschrijving te linken naar nl.wiktionary. Waarschijnlijk hecht je daar zelf niet zo'n belang aan. Nu staan er door een kleine typo heel wat files met als beschrijving ''wikikwordenboek''. Ik vroeg me af of je dit ''in one go'' kan aanpassen. Ik had het er reeds over met [[:Commons:User talk:Vysotsky|Vysotsky]]. Thnks. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 07:51 (CET) ::De eerste 1000 files zijn veranderd, de rest volgt. Het is een langzaam proces dus ik kan niet de andere 500.000 files veranderen in nl.wiktionary maar daar zijn vast slimmere meisjes en jongens voor die dat wel kunnen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 07:57 (CET) :::Bedankt Marcel coenders, dat van die slimme meisjes en jongens, daar bedoel je wel het een of andere botje mee... {{smiley}} [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 08:22 (CET) ::::Timmert de hamer of timmert de timmerman? Ik denk dan eerder aan de timmerman. De slimme meisjes en jongens kunnen het met behulp van een botje [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 23 feb 2020 08:28 (CET) :::::Alle 3600 wordenboeken zijn veranderd in woordenboek [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 26 feb 2020 08:17 (CET) == chevreau == Ik wil mij niet bezondigen aan ongewenste intimiteit met mieren en zeker niet met geiten, maar ik kan de betekenis "geitenlam" van [[chevreau]] alleen voor het Frans terugvinden, niet voor het Nederlands. Alles wat ik tegenkom is "geitenleer". Ik heb een sectie Frans met beide betekenissen aan het lemma toegevoegd en een Nederlands voorbeeld voor "geitenleer". Als je een vindplaats hebt voor "geitenlam" kunnen we die wellicht toevoegen; of als het eigenlijk om de Franse betekenis ging, zouden we die in de Nederlandse sectie kunnen verwijderen en de foto naar de Franse sectie verplaatsen. Ik wacht je reactie af voordat ik verder iets verander. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2020 10:32 (CET) == Ere wie ere toekomt == Vanavond hebben we de definitieve toestemming van prof. Marc Brysbaert van de Universiteit Gent gekregen om de meest recente versie van de prevalentiecijfers uit de bestanden op hun website te gaan gebruiken, in plaats van het bestand zoals ze dat eerder ook met woorden.org hebben gedeeld. Ik ga de projectpagina's de komende dagen aan deze nieuwe situatie aanpassen. Hij schreef me in een eerdere mail naar aanleiding van de stand van zaken "Dat is een echt titanenwerk. Goed te zien dat het veel gebruikt wordt." en dat leek me een passende lofprijzing om aan jou door te geven. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 apr 2020 22:39 (CEST) :Voor de overgang naar de nieuwe cijfers wil ik ook een meer "centrale" opslag van de cijfers gaan toepassen. Dan hoef ik straks alleen het oude sjabloon "om te leiden" naar het nieuwe en kunnen de lemma's zelf vooralsnog ongewijzigd blijven. Bijkomend effect van deze verandering is dat je het nieuwe sjabloon {{Tl|Leesonderzoek-2013}} meteen in de nieuwe pagina van woorden uit het onderzoek kan opnemen: het zoekt zelf de juiste cijfers op. Voor de "nieuwe pagina's" heb ik die cijfers inmiddels klaargezet, voor de bestaande is dat nog even een klusje, maar omdat dat zich buiten de hoofdnaamruimte afspeelt kan ik het veilig door een bot laten doen. Ik heb het nieuwe sjabloon bij wijze van voorbeeld al ingevoegd in de lemma's waarmee je bezig bent. Het nieuwe sjabloon bevat een referentie, dus {{Tl|refs}} is ook vereist, maar die voegde je zelf toch al standaard toe. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mei 2020 13:41 (CEST) ::Hallo Marco, ik heb Josseline, mijn vrouw, natuurlijk uitgebreid gefeliciteerd met het feit dat ze getrouwd is met een internationaal en universitair erkende titaan, helaas maakte dat net wat minder indruk dan waar ik dacht recht op te hebben maar goed kan ik mee leven. Wat ik jammer vind aan het nieuwe sjabloon is dat er niet meer verwezen wordt naar een lijst met een opsomming van woorden die door N% van de Nederlanders en V% van de Vlamingen worden herkend ik zie bijvoorbeeld [[aanzweven]] ook niet in de lijst van woorden die door 77% van de Nederlanders wordt herkend. Misschien kan daar wat aangedaan worden. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 1 mei 2020 14:58 (CEST) :::Oei, Marcel, ik wil je natuurlijk nu geen tweede teleurstelling bezorgen. In het nieuwe sjabloon is ook de categorisering al ingebouwd, de enige reden dat die nog "uit" staat is dat ik eerst de tekst op de categorieën zelf wil aanpassen, omdat de te verwachten totalen natuurlijk ook gaan veranderen. Dus het gaat komende dagen allemaal goed komen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 mei 2020 19:03 (CEST) :::De vereiste aanpassingen zijn doorgevoerd. Categorieën zouden nu weer als vanouds moeten werken. Als er toch nog ergens iets niet goed gaat, laat het me dan weten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 9 mei 2020 08:53 (CEST) == Weerváren en wederváren == Hallo Marcel, Zie [https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Bestand:nl-wedervaren.ogg dit bestand]. De klemtóón ligt op de verkeerde syllábel. ;-) [[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 22 sep 2020 05:14 (CEST) :Als ik op Van Dale en mijn taalgevoel afga, hebben we hier te maken met een klemtoonhomogram. Het is overigens een subtiele, want naast het zelfstandig naamwoord blijft het natuurlijk altijd mogelijk de onbepaalde wijs zelfstandig te gebruiken. Toevoegen van het onbrekende bestand is zeker een verbetering, maar het bestaande bestand kan ook correct zijn. Ik heb [[wedervaren]] aan mijn bevindingen aangepast. Kan dit ieders instemming krijgen? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 sep 2020 14:03 (CEST) == [[groenwit]] en [[groen-wit]] == …zijn beide zowel zelfstandig naamwoord als bijvoeglijk naamwoord. "Groenwit" is een groenige tint wit, terwijl "groen-wit" uit zowel witte als groene vlakken bestaat. Voor mijn gevoel is er ook een subtiel verschil in klemtoon: GROENwit en groen-WIT. In principe kunnen deze dubbele combinaties bij alle kleuren voorkomen, maar feitelijk betekent wit-groen hetzelfde als groen-wit en kennelijk hebben taalgebruikers een voorkeur voor die laatste vorm. Bij Go Ahead is het ook altijd "rood-geel", nooit andersom. Daar staat tegenover dat de combinaties met koppelteken ook drieledig kunnen zijn, waarbij soms de eerste kleur weer wordt herhaald: Rotterdam is "wit-groen-wit". Er zit nog wel een masterscriptie Nederlands in om dit eens grondig uit te zoeken en van verklaringen te voorzien. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 sep 2020 23:13 (CEST) == [[rechteroever]] == Er is iets misgegaan met de link naar het plaatje. Had je al iets moois gevonden of moet de link gewoon weg? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 okt 2020 19:47 (CEST) ::Een ander, na deze opmerking ook meer toepasselijk, plaatje [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 5 okt 2020 20:01 (CEST) == colchicine == Hoi Marcel, [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]])De uitspraak van [[colchicine]] is 'kolgieSIEne' met een stemloze keelklank van "lach". In dit geval doe ik er een berichtje bij, omdat het bestand ook tot [[en:Talk:colchicine|discussie]] bij onze Engelstalige collega's leidde. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2020 23:51 (CET) bedankt ~ == [[honingzoet]] plaatje == Hoi Marcel, Nu eens niet over geluid, maar over beeld. De afbeelding op honingzoet is op Commons voorgedragen voor verwijdering omdat expliciete toestemming van de schilder Jan Knap ontbreekt. Daar kunnen we vrees ik niet zoveel aan veranderen. Ik vermoed dat je de afbeelding en het citaat bewust als elkaar versterkende elementen hebt toegevoegd. Had je toen nog een next-best oplossing die we nu zouden kunnen gebruiken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2020 20:32 (CET) == samenstellingen met corona == Hoi Marcel, In de imposante lijst van samenstellingen die je aan [[corona]] hebt toegevoegd, heb ik net een paar aanpassingen volgens de spellingregels aangebracht. Iedere auteur mag een koppelteken invoegen voor de leesbaarheid waar hem dat voor zijn publiek nuttig lijkt, maar in een naslagwerk als WikiWoordenboek is het verstandig om de standaardschrijfwijze aan te houden, temeer omdat we dat op onze Hoofdpagina aankondigen. Ook "anti-coronafeest" is zo [[anticoronafeest]] geworden (ik heb het 'oude' geluidsbestand gebruikt). Omdat ik me kan voorstellen dat je meer coronalemma's in de pen hebt, kan ik me voorstellen dat deze aanpassingen je belangstelling hebben. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2020 12:23 (CET) == speciaal verzoek geluidsbestanden == Hoi Marcel, Laat ik beginnen met de beste wensen voor jou en de jouwe. Na [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/Olaf|deze wijzigingen]], ben ik even nagegaan wat er aan de hand was, uitmondend in de concrete vraag waarover ik je op de Overlegpagina van Lotje heb aangeroepen. Door haar tussenkomst is "nl-staatsgreep.ogg" nu vrij voor een geluidsbestand, maar de hernoeming van het oude bestand is nog niet ideaal. Om te voorkomen dat iemand dat laatste probleem weer gaat "oplossen" door de oude naam te herstellen is dit wellicht een goed moment om "[[staatsgreep]]" in te spreken. Ik heb geen idee of dat een beetje in jouw klussenlijst valt in te passen, maar als het lukt is het mooi. Misschien is het dan mogelijk de volgende namen meteen mee te nemen, ik heb suggesties voor een bestandsnaam toegevoegd, maar als een ander systeem jou beter past, kan dat natuurlijk ook. Ik heb daarom op de betreffende pagina's nog geen links naar een ontbrekend geluidsbestand toegevoegd. Het zou principieel natuurlijk beter zijn als de ingesproken Wikipedia-artikelen allemaal "-article" in de bestandsnaam krijgen. Er zijn echter nog meer inconsistenties in de naamgeving. Alles op orde brengen betekent het hernoemen van tientallen bestanden en de daaruit voortvloeiende wijzigingen op Wikipedia en dat valt toch een beetje buiten mijn interessesfeer. Vandaar mijn wat pragmatische lijstje hieronder: de enige gevallen waarin een voorgelezen artikel uit de Nederlandse Wikipedia een bestandsnaam zonder "-article" heeft gekregen, terwijl het aannemelijk is dat wij er ook een lemma voor zullen maken. # [[San Marino]] als 'nl-san Marino.ogg' # [[Sem]] als 'nl-sem.ogg' # [[Semele]] als 'nl-semele.ogg' (SEEmeelee) # [[Socrates]] als 'nl-socrates.ogg' # [[Verenigde Staten van Amerika]] als 'nl-verenigde Staten van Amerika.ogg' Op het moment dat ik dit schrijf zijn er nog twee lemma's die hier ontbreken, maar daar ga ik verandering in brengen. O, en nog bedankt voor het blauw maken van de kersttoespraakwoorden. Onze beginscore was hier zelfs 99,1%. Mijn indruk is dat er bij deze toespraak nog meer werk gemaakt wordt van de toegankelijkheid dan bij de troonrede, want het rood had voor een groot deel betrekking op uitspraak of stilistische keuzes en de zinnen lijken me gemiddeld nog wat korter. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2020 12:25 (CET) --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 dec 2020 12:25 (CET) ::ik heb de veranderingen aangebracht [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 28 dec 2020 22:23 (CET) :::Schitterend. Door de aanvulling zo nadrukkelijk te presenteren heb ik het woord waar het allemaal mee begon wat laten ondersneeuwen: [[staatsgreep]]. Of vond je het na de "Verenigde Staten van Amerika" beter om even tot 6 januari te wachten met de "staatsgreep"? :::Ter zijde. Ik heb de maker van webwoordenboek.nl mijn assistentie aangeboden bij het oplossen van eventuele problemen, maar voor wie weet hoe het werkt is het updaten (met een achterstand van een paar dagen) niet heel moeilijk: de Wikimedia Foundation publiceert voortdurend zogenaamde datadumps van al haar projecten (alleen bij de allergrootsten gaat dat iets moeizamer). Je ziet mij misschien af en toe wat van die "fix Lint error"-bewerkingen uitvoeren: die hebben onder meer tot doel toekomstig hergebruik eenvoudiger te maken door zoveel mogelijk de algemene html5-standaard aan te houden. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 10:50 (CET) ::::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}} eerder had ik de file m.b.t. tot het artikel [[:Afbeelding:Nl-Verenigde Staten van Amerika-article.oga|'''Verenigde Staten van America''']]. Als president wordt (gezien de datum van de opname) Barack Obama genoemd. Ergens moet dit toch verwarring wekken, dacht ik. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 11:29 (CET) :::::{{ping|Lotje}} Kan het zijn dat er een voltooid deelwoord in je eerste zin ontbreekt? Het project om Wikipedia-artikelen in te lezen lijkt wat stil te liggen. Het is ook nauwelijks te doen om van duizenden, laat staan miljoenen pagina's ingesproken versies bij te houden. Een meer kansrijke strategie is om pagina's zo in te richten dat ze met de steeds beter wordende spraaktechnologie goed kunnen worden voorgelezen. Maar ik ga me daar niet echt mee bezighouden, er is ook hier op WikiWoordenboek nog veel nodig om de toegankelijkheid voor tal van doelgroepen te verbeteren. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 12:53 (CET) ::::::{{Ping|MarcoSwart}}, inderdaad "beluisterd". Bedankt voor de opmerkzaamheid :-) Je hebt inderdaad gelijk: het gebruik van spraaktechnologie om de toegankelijkheid te verbeteren is dé oplossing bij uitstek. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 12:58 (CET) :::::::{{Ping|Marcel coenders}}, weet je wat zou gebeuren mocht ik de spelling van '''nl-san Marino.ogg''' via een rename in '''nl-San Marino.ogg''' willen omzetten? Wordt het dan ook automatisch een .oga? Zoja, meen ik dat het beter is wanneer je een nieuwe file aanmaakt. Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 30 dec 2020 08:09 (CET) == [[San Marino]] == Hier zou ik, als je het goed vindt, [[:Afbeelding:TE-Collage San Marino.png|deze collage]] toevoegen. Een begeleidende tekst is waarschijnlijk overbodig. :-) [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 29 dec 2020 13:03 (CET) == [[corioliskracht]] == Hoi Marcel, Misschien voor jou geheel overbodig, maar zelf had ik voor het uitvogelen van de uitspraak van "coriolis" wel baat bij [https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=238&v=hoqC0x3TKCQ deze clip]. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2021 11:38 (CET) == [[coelacant]][[coelacanth|(h)]] == Hoi Marcel, Dit is wel weer om lekker diep onder water te zwemmen en wanneer we daar een fossiele vis tegenkomen, leek het de taxonomen een goed idee die een naam te geven met een fossiele spelling. Deze oe is het Oudgriekse οῖ en via het Latijn wordt dat in gangbaar Nederlands een lange ee. Mensen die hechten aan bepaalde klassieke tradities gebruiken ook wel "eu" of juist weer "oj". In woorden als "[[economie]]" en "[[feniks]]" is de uitspraak tegenwoordig ook in de schrijfwijze duidelijk, maar bij soortnamen heeft een internationaal gebruikelijke schrijfwijze ook zo haar voordelen. Dat laatste heeft de h op het eind niet kunnen redden, zodat wij dezelfde uitspraak op twee lemma's (kunnen) gebruiken. Ik heb nu alleen op het hoofdlemma om een aangepast geluidsbestand gevraagd. Als het nieuwe bestand niet nl-coelacant.ogg heet, zou ook het lemma met de oude schrijfwijze met -th moeten worden aangepast. Vandaar dit bericht. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 jun 2021 10:10 (CEST) PS We kunnen nog 3 spellingveranderingen verwachten: in 2035 "celacant", in 2055 "celakant" en in 2075 "selakant". ''That what we call a fish will smell as bad by any other name...'' == Popo == Omdat er rond de namen [[Popocatépetl]] en [[Popocatepetl]] veel onduidelijkheid is, leek het me wel nuttig om hier twee lemma's aan te wijden. Daardoor moet ik jou weer lastigvallen met twee uitspraakbestanden. Het leek me voor de duidelijkheid handig om de verschillen hier nog even aan te geven: hoewel de oorspronkelijke naam uit het Nahuatl komt, ontlenen we de officiële naam aan het Spaans. Want dat is nu de officiële taal van Mexico en er is ook vrijwel geen rechtstreekse uitwisseling tussen Nahuatl en Nederlands geweest. Dat Popocatépetl wordt uitgesproken als pooPOOkaa'''TEE'''peetl (dus met de hoofdklemtoon op ''té'' en een nevenklemtoon op de twee ''po''). Aan Annie M.G. Schmidt en Harry Bannink hebben we het liedje Popocatepetl te danken, waarin (vermoedelijk opzettelijk) de uitspraak verder is vernederlandst tot POOpooKAAtuh'''PETL''', met de hoofdklemtoon op ''petl'' en nevenklemtonen op de eerste ''po'' en ''ca''. Deze schrijfwijze en uitspraak kom ik ook voor het restaurant tegen. Mijn favoriete graffiti las ik eind jaren zeventig op een bushokje van de TET bij Drienerlo: :Ik wou dat ik een vulkaan was.<br/> :De hele dag op mijn rug liggen roken<br/> :en dan de mensen horen zeggen:<br/> :"Kijk, hij werkt!" De eerste twee regels passen goed bij Popocatépetl, de laatste twee passen nog beter bij jou. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 aug 2021 00:32 (CEST) ==uitspraak [[gender|gendér]] (muziekinstrument)== Een [[Overleg_gebruiker:Benimation|nieuwe collega]] wees mij erop dat er een verschil is tussen het geluidsbestand en de IPA-weergave van de uitspraak van "gendér" (de "xylofoon" van een Indonesisch gamelanorkest. Daarom meld ik me weer hier met een verzoek om een nieuwe versie, ook omdat het vanuit het Nederlands benaderd om vrij ongewone klanken gaat. Qua klinkers en slotmedeklinker rijmt het woord op [[geblèr]], de beginmedeklinker is die van [[goal]], daarna is het genoeg om "bl" door "nd" te vervangen. Hierna is het wellicht verassend te horen dat het instrument juist tamelijk vriendelijk kabbelende klanken voortbrengt. Nu ik hier toch ben, Wikimedia Nederland wil 13 november weer een conferentie beleggen (live of online is nog niet helemaal zeker). Ik kreeg gisteren opnieuw een herinnering of ik nog een onderdeel wilde aanmelden. Ik aarzel, maar ik was benieuwd of jij nog ideeën in die richting hebt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 aug 2021 00:19 (CEST) == Holy Phagwa! == De ph aan het begin van Phagwa komt van de फ uit het Hindi, niet van de Φ uit het Grieks. Daarom lijkt het me waarschijnlijk dat zij in [[phagwafeest]] ook als ph wordt uitgesproken, zoals in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7MXWUQOPJg dit nieuwsberichtje]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 sep 2021 13:18 (CEST) ::verbeterd[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 17 sep 2021 16:11 (CEST) == Joods-Nederlandse "losse" woorden == Omdat de oorspronkelijke site van Sofeer volgend jaar stopt, ben ik, nu raadplegen nog mogelijk is, druk doende om onze Joods-Nederlandse woordenschat zoveel mogelijk bij te werken (vooral ook met de Hebreeuwse herkomst). In dat verband viel me op dat er bij de uitdrukkingen die uit meer woorden bestaan soms wel en soms niet pagina's voor de afzonderlijke woorden zijn aangemaakt. Soms ontbrak zo'n doorverwijzing al op Sofeer zelf, soms hebben we die (nog) niet overgenomen. Het is mijn bedoeling om deze woorden (naar schatting tegen de 200) alsnog op te nemen, maar daarbij ook aan te geven dat ze alleen in de betreffende uitdrukkingen voorkomen en ze in het woordsoortsjabloon ook een 0-parameter te geven, zodat ze de tellingen niet beïnvloeden. De complete uitdrukkingen zijn al ingesproken en het lijkt me niet strikt noodzakelijk dat ook nog eens te doen voor de losse woorden die (in het Nederlands) toch alleen binnen die uitdrukking voorkomen en waarnaar altijd wordt verwezen. Afhankelijk van jouw opvatting over de wenselijkheid om deze woorden ook afzonderlijk in te spreken, kan ik bij het toevoegen {{Tl|audio}} meenemen of weglaten. Ik verwacht overigens dat er vermoedelijk een nog groter aantal plaatsnamen, voornamen en dergelijke is, dat tegenwoordig ook voor opname in aanmerking komt, maar zo ver ben ik nog niet met dit klusje gevorderd.--[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 nov 2021 23:12 (CET) Zul je altijd zien: vandaag kom ik op [[Sjema]] dat als naam van een gebed (vergelijk: [[Onzevader]]) ook zelfstandig voor opname in aanmerking komt, maar ook deel is van [[kriat Sjema]]. Dit leek me een geval dat zeker een eigen uitspraakbestand verdient (zie ook de rode link op het laatstgenoemde lemma. Een voorbeeld van een van de bovengenoemde losse woorden waar ik over twijfel is [[sjemoerot]], waar ik {{Tl|audio}} vooralsnog heb weggelaten. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 nov 2021 12:22 (CET) Met het uitzoeken van de losse Hebreeuwse woorden ben ik nu klaar. Nu je nog geen reactie hebt gegeven, ga ik ze de komende dagen gaan toevoegen zonder {{Tl|audio}}. Als het toch zinvol blijkt deze woorden van een eigen geluidsbestand te voorzien, kan ik het sjabloon aan de hand van het bestand dat ik nu heb gemakkelijk alsnog toevoegen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 5 nov 2021 19:50 (CET) :Lijkt me een uitstekend idee want ik ben zeker geen moedertaalspreker van het Hebreeuws :) [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 5 nov 2021 19:54 (CET) ::Beste Marcel, ::Ik vroeg mij af of ik u zou kunnen mailen? ::Met vriendelijke groet, ::Tim [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/217.103.105.65|217.103.105.65]] 9 mrt 2022 19:19 (CET) :::Je kunt altijd een bericht zetten op mijn overlegpagina https://nl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Overleg_gebruiker:Marcel_coenders [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2022 19:28 (CET) == Provençaals == Deze {{WikiW|Helpdesk#Uitspraak_Proven%C3%A7aals|vraag aan de helpdesk}} lijkt me een goed punt. Zou je er eens naar kunnen kijken? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2021 08:44 (CET) :Ik heb in een moeite door even naar andere woorden met c-cedille gekeken en daarvan leek mij alleen [[cachaça]] een probleem, maar dan meer vanwege de ch die eigenlijk als sj moet worden uitgesproken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 nov 2021 08:57 (CET) == Goed nieuws, betere werk en beste wensen == Beide gefeliciteerd met jullie kleinzoon. Zo'n vooruitziende blik is natuurlijk het [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Jack&oldid=2305412 betere werk]. Rest mij nog om jullie, met Jack en zijn ouders, fijne feestdagen en het beste voor het nieuwe jaar te wensen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 dec 2021 14:10 (CET) == Paleontoloog == Kan het zijn dat er bij de vervanging van het geluidsbestand op [[paleontoloog]] iets is misgegaan? Het klinkt nu net als het oude bestand. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jan 2022 09:57 (CET) == Oekraïens == Door de actualiteit krijgen sommige lemma's opeens extra aandacht. Daardoor kom ik je even lastigvallen met het volgende. Het trema op Oekraïens geeft alleen aan dat er een scheiding tussen de a en de i is, dus geen ai als in [[rail]], maar a-i zoals in [[naïeve]]. In de uitspraak op [[Oekraïense]], [[Oekraïense grivna]] en [[Oekraïensen]] is er als het ware nog een tweede scheiding ingeslopen "aaIEjense", terwijl het gewoon "aaIEnse" is. Ik gok dat dit een contaminatie met de Latijnse uitgang "-iense" is, die wel zo wordt uitgesproken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 mrt 2022 14:03 (CET) == Fotootjes == Zie [[Overleg:groepsfototje]] aub. == passte == Dit word is Nederengels. Het komt van Engels ''to pass'' en wordt dan ook (min of meer) zo uitgesproken. Je uitspraakbestand is dus opnieuw fout. :In de gangbare Nederlandse uitspraak wordt allang niet meer geprobeerd om het Engels na te bootsen: "pass" rijmt gewoon op "kaas". In mijn oren klinkt het nieuwe bestand prima. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 mei 2022 21:11 (CEST) == Aanmelding als moderator == Voor dingen als het verwijderen van pagina's en het blokkeren van spammers heb je een paar extra opties in de programmatuur nodig. Traditioneel horen gebruikers het vertrouwen van de gemeenschap te vragen voordat ze die opties krijgen. De officiële term is {{WikiW|Moderator}} en je kunt je {{WikiW|Aanmelding moderators|hier}} aanmelden, waarna er een week reacties worden afgewacht om te zien of het vertrouwen voldoende is. Dit is op deze wiki meestal een formaliteit, maar deze stap hoort erbij. Je kunt voor wat betreft de motivatie gewoon naar de discussie in De kroeg verwijzen. Wanneer je de aanmelding hebt toegevoegd, zorg ik voor de vervolgstappen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 mei 2022 11:16 (CEST) == Geen optie == Ik denk dat [[aankoopoptie|dit]] niet is wat je bedoelde. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 mei 2022 13:17 (CEST) ::bedankt[[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 23 mei 2022 13:39 (CEST) == Taalparameter == De contextlabels zijn nog waardevoller met de taalparameter '''nld''' om ze in de goede categorie te kunnen plaatsen. Je zet nu onbedoeld veel woorden in [[:Categorie:WikiWoordenboek:Pagina's met sjabloon zonder ingevulde taal|deze categorie]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 mei 2022 23:50 (CEST) == Hier ging iets mis == Ik vermoed dat je [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek%3AHoofdpagina&type=revision&diff=4565612&oldid=4559756 hier] iets anders deed dan je bedoeling was. Als je de hoofdpagina ergens als verstekwaarde in een script hebt zitten, is het een goed idee dat te veranderen: de bescherming van pagina's werkt niet bij moderatoren. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2022 11:41 (CEST) == [[bouwkosten]] == Dag {{ping|Marcel coenders}}!<br /> Ik denk dat er iets mis is met het enkelvoud van [[bouwkosten]]. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 10 okt 2022 12:14 (CEST) == Soemano als eigennaam == Dag Marcel, ik kwam langs de pagina [[Soemano]] (eigennaam). Naar mijn weten ben ik de enige persoon in het Nederlandse taalgebied met deze voornaam, dus ik was erg nieuwsgierig wat u bewogen heeft om een WikiWoordenboek pagina daarvoor aan te maken. Ik voel me in ieder geval vereerd. 😉 (Bij de uitspraak ligt de klemtoon overigens op de eerste lettergreep, niet de tweede.) [[Gebruiker:Accon4|Accon4]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Accon4|overleg]]) 2 jan 2023 21:20 (CET) == [[brandblusapparaat]] == Hallo Marcel coenders, vind je [[:Bestand:Hohenloher Freilandmuseum - Baugruppe Mühlental - Mahlmühle aus Weipertshofen - Flur - blaue Wand mit Feuerlöscher (2).jpg|deze]] afbeelding duidelijker? Zou je er iets op tegen hebben dat ik de afbeelding vervang? Thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 25 feb 2023 06:46 (CET) :Prachtig, nu ook op [[brandblusser]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 25 feb 2023 19:02 (CET) == Hoofdpagina == Uit de 4 laatste onbedoelde veranderingen van de Hoofdpagina krijg ik indruk dat je script automatisch de Hoofdpagina verandert als er ergens iets misgaat. Is het mogelijk iets in te bouwen waardoor dat niet gebeurt? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 jul 2023 16:13 (CEST) == afloopdatum == Dag Marcel. Er is iets niet helemaal goed aan de zin "[[afloopdatum#Zelfstandig_naamwoord|tijdstip dat een bepaalde afspraak, regeling geldigheid stopt]]". Misschien kan je die verbeteren. Met vriendelijke groet, [[Gebruiker:ErikvanB|ErikvanB]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:ErikvanB|overleg]]) 29 jul 2023 06:37 (CEST) == uitspraak [[fäh]] == Mijn indruk is dat [[c:File:Nl-fäh.ogg|dit geluidsbestand]] niet klinkt zoals je bedoeld hebt. Volgens Van Dale klinkt het net zo als [[fee]], dus wat mij betreft is het ook een optie om dat bestand dubbel te gebruiken, maar qua systematiek is een afzonderlijk bestand natuurlijk wel beter. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 19 sep 2023 12:09 (CEST) == door jou dubbel gedefinieerde woorden == Hallo Marcel, Ik heb nogal wat woorden aangetroffen die door jou dubbel zijn gedefinieerd.<br> Als het om een paar gaat, pas ik die altijd aan.<br> Dit keer zijn het er wel erg veel en ik laat ze daarom nu aan jou over.<br> Volgens mij kun je het probleem relatief eenvoudig corrigeren als je nogmaals met autokey de batch uitvoert maar nu met de extra statement sendinput ^a{del} wat de pagina helemaal leeg maakt:<br><br> run, https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title="pagina"&action=edit"<br> sleep 10000<br> sendinput {tab}^{end}<br> sleep 500<br> ;<br> sendinput ^a{del}<br> ; met eerst geheel verwijderen oude inhoud!<br> items met meer dan één definitie van een taal<br> [[Abcoudse]] [[BBQ'ende]] [[bijlenende]] [[borstvoedende]] [[brijende]] [[bussende]] [[defriendende]] [[doorbouwende]] [[doorkervende]] [[doorklinkende]] [[doorknagende]] [[dooroefenende]] [[doorploegende]] [[doorregenende]] [[doorrennende]] [[doorrijgende]] [[doorscheurende]] [[doorschuddende]] [[doorsnuffelende]] [[doorstikkende]] [[doorstralende]] [[doorvliegende]] [[doorvoelende]] [[doorvretende]] [[doorwandelende]] [[doorwarmende]] [[doorzendende]] [[doorzingende]] [[doorzwemmende]] [[drolemoji]] [[fikkende]] [[foutrekenende]] [[genderbendende]] [[goedrekenende]] [[haaiende]] [[handhelds]] [[heengestapt]] [[heenzendende]] [[hielende]] [[houtvlottende]] [[inscheppende]] [[inverdienende]] [[inzendende]] [[kleinzende]] [[klossende]] [[kluizende]] [[knikkebenende]] [[koersende]] [[kollende]] [[kriekende]] [[kuilende]] [[lijntekenende]] [[medeondertekenende]] [[meeberekenende]] [[meetekenende]] [[meezendende]] [[mijnende]] [[misradende]] [[moerende]] [[natregenende]] [[nazendende]] [[neerregenende]] [[nokkende]] [[omgietende]] [[omslingerende]] [[omverrennende]] [[omwendende]] [[omwikkelende]] [[omzwevende]] [[onderstoppende]] [[ontvriendende]] [[opspittende]] [[opstuikende]] [[opzendende]] [[overijlende]] [[overpratende]] [[oversnijdende]] [[overspuitende]] [[overtillende]] [[overzeilende]] [[overzendende]] [[pierende]] [[plankende]] [[rabattende]] [[ribbende]] [[ronddienende]] [[rondkrijgende]] [[rondzendende]] [[samenrottende]] [[scharrelbenende]] [[schendende]] [[schrotende]] [[sponsende]] [[stoffende]] [[stokkende]] [[stroppende]] [[tegentekenende]] [[terugherkennende]] [[terugkennende]] [[terugrekenende]] [[terugzendende]] [[toewendende]] [[toezendende]] [[touwende]] [[treilende]] [[vernietigingscentrum]] Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 2 feb 2024 10:46 (CET) :Alles is weer verbeterd n.l. door bij geschiedenis de laatste bewerking weg te halen, jouw voorstel vind ik een beetje gevaarlijk want soms is de oude pagina een stuk uitgebreider dan mij nieuwe pagina en soms is er bijvoorbeeld sprake van een andere woordsoort (in dit geval zou het ook een bijvoeglijk naamwoord kunnen zijn. Bedankt voor het trouw weghalen van dubbelingen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 2 feb 2024 14:01 (CET) == Experimenteren met sjablonen == Hoi Marcel, even een tip. Om ervoor te zorgen dat onze lezers een pagina snel te zien krijgen zijn er wereldwijd tientallen servers waarop een kopie van elke pagina is opgeslagen. Als wij een bewerkte pagina opslaan, wordt de wikitext daarvan vertaald en naar al die servers gekopieerd. Wanneer we een sjabloon opslaan, worden achter de schermen alle pagina's die dat sjabloon gebruiken opnieuw vertaald en opgeslagen op al die servers. Het tijdelijk wijzigen van een veelgebruikt sjabloon betekent dat er twee van zulke operaties vlak achter elkaar worden uitgevoerd. Daarom is het beter zo'n sjabloon pas op te slaan als je zeker bent van de verandering die je wil aanbrengen. Om te experimenteren heeft het bewerkingsvenster voor sjablonen onderaan de mogelijkheid ''Voorvertoning weergeven met dit sjabloon'': als je daarin paginanamen waarop het sjabloon al gebruikt wordt invult, krijg je via de knop ''Voorvertoning weergeven'' te zien hoe het daarop uitpakt. Deze vorm van experimenteren voorkomt dat lezers de indruk krijgen dat onze site traag is geworden of te maken krijgen met informatie die eigenlijk niet voor hun bedoeld was, zoals: '''femme''' <span {{gramstijl}}>de (vrouwelijk)</span>. Als je meer complexe tests wil doen, kun je het sjabloon onder een andere naam kopiëren en daarmee experimenten op pagina's in je eigen gebruikersruimte. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 feb 2024 10:49 (CET) == Parameters in citeersjabloon == Hoi Marcel, Dank voor de vriendelijke woorden over {{Tl|-l-}}, ook al is het nog niet helemaal uitontwikkeld. Bij het dagelijks onderhoud liep ik aan tegen twee puntjes waar je systeem wellicht nog iets beter kan worden afgesteld. #De parameter ''datum'' komt de afgelopen weken vaak dubbel voor, waarbij het de eerste keer kort na het begin staat, met een onjuiste datum die zo op het oog wel eens uit het citaat daarvoor lijkt te zijn overgebleven. Voor recente voorbeelden kun je kijken in de geschiedenis van [[verzamelbundel]], [[vochtvlek]], [[wagenmenner]], [[wijnproeven]], [[wijnspeciaalzaak]] en [[winterkwartier]]. #Sinds een paar weken gebruik je ''bezocht'' in plaats van ''bezochtdatum''. Dat laatste kan ik Snorrebot vrij eenvoudig laten aanpassen, maar het leek me praktisch dat ik even afwacht tot je jouw instellingen hebt kunnen bijstellen. Je kunt de lemma's die al in de pijplijn zitten zo ongecorrigeerd plaatsen: straks is het dan na één doorloop allemaal weer in orde. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 3 apr 2024 10:30 (CEST) :Het waren een aantal zaken die niet zichtbaar zijn op de gepubliceerde pagina vandaar dat het me niet is opgevallen heb het nu aangepast. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 3 apr 2024 11:29 (CEST) ::OK, dan ga ik aan de slag. Terzijde, ik weet niet of je de vraag op [[Overleg:oen]] al hebt gezien. Ik weet niet of dit inherent is aan de programmatuur, of dat er iets aan te doen is. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 4 apr 2024 11:22 (CEST) :::Nieuwe versie ingesproken die dat probleem niet heeft. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 4 apr 2024 11:31 (CEST) == ontsporing == Misschien was je er al mee bezig, maar op [[seintoestellen]] is kennelijk iets misgegaan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jun 2024 19:38 (CEST) == Geluidsbestand [[taël]] == Dit blijft [[Overleg:taël|een lastige]], omdat hij wat tegen de gangbare uitspraak van het Nederlands ingaat. Bij veel woorden op -el gaat het om een onbeklemtoonde sjwa (tafel, wimpel) en wanneer het echt als è wordt uitgesproken, krijgt het meestal ook meteen de klemtoon: tabel, vaarwel. Maar "taël" rijmt min of meer op "[[natel]]" als je de -t- daaruit weglaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 jul 2024 09:45 (CEST) == ontsporing == Vermoedelijk heeft de programmatuur je [[realiteitsgehalte|hier]] een ongewenste verrassing bezorgd. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2024 10:18 (CEST) * Voor het geval dat je het nog niet had gezien, ook op [[fantasiebeeld]] en [[frisdrankflesjes]] staat vermoedelijk niet wat je beoogde. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 1 sep 2024 21:06 (CEST) == Amerikanse == N.a.v. [//nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=dom&diff=prev&oldid=4554668 deze bewerking]: staat er echt "Amerikanse"? [[gebruiker:bdijkstra|bdijkstra]] ([[overleg gebruiker:bdijkstra#top|overleg]]) 21 okt 2024 14:41 (CEST) :Type fout verbeterd bedankt [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 21 okt 2024 16:12 (CEST) == comiteetjes == Hallo Marcel,<br> Ik had gisteren weer eens een controleprogramma laten lopen en het viel me op dat je sinds de laatste keer flink bezig bent geweest met de comiteetjes.<br> Wat de woordafbreking betreft, die is altijd: co·mi·té·tjes.<br> Ik heb gisteren al heel wat veranderingen aangebracht maar er rest nog een aantal.<br> Zou jij het erg vinden om die te doen?<br><br> Hieronder staan ze:<br> <table> <tr><td>[[beheerscomiteetjes]] <td>be·heers·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>be·heers·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[beroepscomiteetjes]] <td>be·roeps·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>be·roeps·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[beurscomiteetjes]] <td>beurs·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>beurs·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[bidcomiteetjes]] <td>bid·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>bid·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[directiecomiteetjes]] <td>di·rec·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>di·rec·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[drankweercomiteetjes]] <td>drank·weer·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>drank·weer·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[Elfstedencomiteetjes]] <td>Elf·ste·den·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>Elf·ste·den·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[feestcomiteetjes]] <td>feest·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>feest·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[flatcomiteetjes]] <td>flat·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>flat·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[groencomiteetjes]] <td>groen·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>groen·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[hakbijlcomiteetjes]] <td>hak·bijl·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>hak·bijl·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[handelscomiteetjes]] <td>han·dels·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>han·dels·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[interim-comiteetjes]] <td>in·te·rim-·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>in·te·rim-·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[kindercomiteetjes]] <td>kin·der·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>kin·der·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[landbouwcomiteetjes]] <td>land·bouw·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>land·bouw·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[mensenrechtencomiteetjes]] <td>men·sen·rech·ten·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>men·sen·rech·ten·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[ministercomiteetjes]] <td>mi·nis·ter·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>mi·nis·ter·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[ministerscomiteetjes]] <td>mi·nis·ters·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>mi·nis·ters·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[monitoringcomiteetjes]] <td>mo·ni·to·ring·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>mo·ni·to·ring·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[Nobelcomiteetjes]] <td>No·bel·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>No·bel·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[Oranjecomiteetjes]] <td>Oran·je·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>Oran·je·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[organisatiecomiteetjes]] <td>or·ga·ni·sa·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>or·ga·ni·sa·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[oudercomiteetjes]] <td>ou·der·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>ou·der·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[overlegcomiteetjes]] <td>over·leg·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>over·leg·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[partijcomiteetjes]] <td>par·tij·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>par·tij·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[protestcomiteetjes]] <td>pro·test·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>pro·test·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[redactiecomiteetjes]] <td>re·dac·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>re·dac·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[regeringscomiteetjes]] <td>re·ge·rings·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>re·ge·rings·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[remuneratiecomiteetjes]] <td>re·mu·ne·ra·tie·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>re·mu·ne·ra·tie·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[schoolcomiteetjes]] <td>school·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>school·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[sportcomiteetjes]] <td>sport·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>sport·co·mi·té·tjes <tr><td>[[staatscomiteetjes]] <td>staats·co·mi·tee·tjes<td> <td>staats·co·mi·té·tjes </table> Ik hoop dat verder alles goed met je gaat in het regenachtige Holland. Wij waren 5 weken in Holland op bezoek maar zijn weer blij met ons Tenerife-zonnetje, Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 09:55 (CET) :Omdat het me praktischer leek, heb ik het door Snorrebot laten doen: met zo'n net lijstje is dat in een paar minuten gefikst. Als dat toch niet optimaal is, laat het gerust weten, het kan ook in een paar minuten worden teruggedraaid. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:11 (CET) :Volgens mij had ik al een verbeterprogramma over deze woorden laten gaan maar misschien had ik er paar gemist zie bijvoorbeeld [[staatscommiteetjes]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:32 (CET) ::[[staatscomiteetjes]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:33 (CET) :::Oepsie: Ik had wel het comiteetje maar niet de comiteetjes verbeterd. Bedankt Marco [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 okt 2024 10:42 (CET) == refs == Hallo Marcel Ik zie dat je de laatste tijd bij veel pagina's het sjabloon <nowiki>{{citeer}}</nowiki> plaatst.<br> Zou je in zo'n geval erop willen letten om ook aan het eind van de Nederlandse sectie het sjabloon <nowiki>{{refs}}</nowiki> te plaatsen?<br> Er waren nogal wat pagina's waar ik die moest aanbrengen.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 17 nov 2024 17:47 (CET) ==[[amfitheatergewijs]]/[[amfitheatergewijze]] == Dag, ik zie dat je deze twee pagina's net weer hebt verwijderd. Volgens mij is dat niet echt nodig, aangezien nevenvormen zonder verbindings''-s'' bijna altijd zijn toegestaan. Hetzelfde geldt trouwens voor bijv. veel schrijfwijzen met een optioneel koppelteken voor het leesgemak (''[[anti-aanbaklaag]]'', ''[[jazz-zanger]]'' e.d.). Ik vind het al langer inconsequent dat die schrijfwijzen hier geweerd worden, terwijl andere niet door de TU officieel erkende woorden en woordvormen doorgaans wel worden opgenomen. Is het misschien tijd om hier eens een wat bredere discussie over te starten? [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 24 nov 2024 12:58 (CET) :Er is een wezenlijk verschil tussen het bestaan van woorden en uitspraakvarianten enerzijds en verschillende schrijfwijzen bij gelijkblijvende uitspraak anderzijds. De Taalunie geeft uitsluitsel over de laatste vraag, niet over de eerste. :Het vermelden van schrijfwijzen die nooit officiële spelling zijn geweest lijkt me geen goed idee. We hebben in het huidige tempo nog ettelijke decennia werk om de vormen te beschrijven die dat wél zijn (geweest). Dankzij flexie, afleiding en samenstelling levert iedere variant weer veel extra werk op als we naar enige consistentie streven. In de praktijk is de kans groot dat het een willekeurig allegaartje wordt. Daar hebben onze gebruikers niet zoveel aan. Heel wat gebruikers raadplegen een Nederlands woordenboek juist om snel te achterhalen wat de standaardschrijfwijze is (geweest). Het wordt voor die gebruikers alleen maar omslachtiger als ze steeds moeten nagaan wat de status van een vermelde vorm is. Bovendien zijn varianten in schrijfwijze niet willekeurig met elkaar te combineren: als je koppeltekens noodzakelijk acht voor je publiek, hoor je dat bij alle in aanmerking komende woorden wél of juist niet te doen. Als je x als ks spelt, hoor je qu als kw te spellen. Wie dat weet, kent de achterliggende regel en heeft de vermelding in een woordenboek niet nodig. Maar als je die regel niet kent, is de vermelding in een woordenboek niet erg verhelderend, helemaal als dat noodgedwongen op een wat willekeurige manier gebeurt. :Als het gangbaar Nederlands uitspraakvarianten kent die volgens de spellingregels een andere schrijfwijze opleveren, vormen die in de benadering van WikiWoordenboek een afzonderlijk trefwoord, al was het maar omdat er onder {{Tl|-pron-}} en {{Tl|-etym-}} verschillende informatie moet worden gegeven. Dat kan inderdaad leiden tot het vermelden van "amfitheatergewijs". Zulke woorden moeten wel worden geattesteerd en volgens de spellingregels zijn geschreven. De Taalunie pretendeert uitdrukkelijk niet om woord(vorm)en te erkennen: het gaat simpelweg om een heel uitgebreide verzameling voorbeelden bij de spellingregels waar ze wél over gaat. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2024 00:33 (CET) == Geluidsbestand pion == Bij de eerste betekenis van [[pion]] (pión) hebben onze voorgangers in het verre verleden per abuis een bestand gemaakt waarop "spion" is te horen. Ik heb het nu even op de gebruikelijke wijze aangemeld voor een nieuw bestand, maar in dit geval zou ik liever het oorspronkelijke bestand vervangen, want dat is onder deze naam gewoon verkeerd. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 nov 2024 09:08 (CET) == Request == Apologies that I do not speak Dutch, however I was patrolling edits from smaller wikis when I came across the contributions of [[Special:Contributions/81.204.39.34|81.204.39.34]]. I just wanted to ask if these types of edits are normal. [[Gebruiker:JJPMaster|JJPMaster]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:JJPMaster|overleg]]) 28 nov 2024 17:18 (CET) :Looks like this editor was testing the possibilities of editing WikiWoordenboek: they were clearly not improvements. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 29 nov 2024 17:01 (CET) == zkar? == Ruim 9 jaar terug voegde je als jongensnaam [[zkar]] toe, als 2e in een serie die begon met [[Zyan]], vervolgde met [[Yvan]] en eindigde met [[Aart]]. Dat ziet eruit als een reeks met jongensnamen van 4 letters in omgekeerd alfabetische volgorde. Qua spelling moet een naam met een hoofdletter beginnen en "zk" is in het Nederlands ook een ongebruikelijk begin van een woord. Ik kan "Zkar" ook nergens terugvinden. Daarom denk ik dat er wellicht iets is misgegaan bij het verwerken van een groter bestand. Kun jij nog achterhalen wat de bedoeling was? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2024 13:49 (CET) :zkar met of zonder hoofdletter is waarschijnlijk een jeugdzonde ik heb het verwijderd. Groetjes Marcel [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 8 dec 2024 15:34 (CET) == [[merchandise]], geluidsbestand ≠ IPA? == Merk ik juist op dat het [[commons:File:Nl-merchandise-ogg|geluidsbestand mechandise]] niet lijkt te klinken als de fonetische WNT weergave [http://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/?q=merchandise /ˈmʏːrtʃəndɑjs/] en wat ik via http://ipa-reader.xyz hoor? [[Gebruiker:Arx - 83|Arx - 83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Arx - 83|overleg]]) 11 dec 2024 15:43 (CET) :Ik merk de [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=merchandise&diff=5218118&oldid=5217383 aanpassing van het geluidsbestand] en hiermee lijkt issue opgelost. Dank voor deze en de vele andere bijdragen. [[Gebruiker:Arx - 83|Arx - 83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Arx - 83|overleg]]) 13 dec 2024 00:48 (CET) == Straattaal of Surinaams? == Van [[soso]] en [[trobi]] is goed aan te tonen dat het Surinaamse woorden zijn. Het is wat lastiger om degelijke bronnen te vinden waaruit blijkt dat ze ook in Nederlandse zinnen worden gebruikt. Ik heb de bewerker die ze toevoegde daar ook [[Overleg gebruiker:Saverinio|al naar gevraagd]]. Ik ben zelf met wisselend resultaat bezig om per lemma vindplaatsen op te sporen, maar dat vraagt wel wat tijd. Als ik ze niet kan vinden, is het mijn voornemen om zulke lemma's om te zetten naar woorden in het Surinaams in plaats van het Nederlands. Is dat wat jou betreft oké? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 18 dec 2024 20:20 (CET) :Lijkt me een uitstekend idee Nog de beste wensen voor Kerst en Nieuwjaar [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 18 dec 2024 20:43 (CET) == [[ravijn]] == Hallo Marcel counders, je [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=ravijn&diff=prev&oldid=3962286 voegde deze afbeelding toe], en ik vroeg me af of iets zoals [[:afbeelding:Canyonlands np.jpg|"Een '''ravijn''' in Canyonlands National Park"]] misschien zinvol is. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 5 feb 2025 13:59 (CET) == spaties in sjablonen == Hallo Marcel, De laatste tijd plaats je spaties om allerlei woorden in sjablonen.<br> Ik heb gemerkt dat dat niet altijd goed gaat.<br> Bij voorbeeld bij het woord '''[[make vol]]'''.<br> Als je daar spaties plaatst rond het woord '''volmaken''' in het sjabloon <nowiki>{{aanv-w|volmaken}}</nowiki> verschijnt er een niet juiste link naar de vervoegingstabel.<br> Misschien moet je die spaties liever weglaten.<br> Als je dat toch wilt, overleg dan eerst met Marco: misschien dat hij een oplossing weet.<br> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2025 13:12 (CET) :Ik heb de meeste spaties uit de betreffende lemma's verwijderd al weet ik niet of het helemaal compleet is. :Bijzonder is wel dat probleem alleen maar zit in de verwijzing naar de vervoegingstabel en niet in de verwijzing naar het werkwoordlemma zelf. :Ik heb mijn programmatuur (ook voor de niet-werkwoordsvormen) 'spatieloos' gemaakt maar de betreffende lemma's niet aangepast omdat het daar volgens mij geen problemen oplevert. :Misschien kan [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) hier ook even naar kijken. :Groetjes Marcel :Dit was het oorspronkelijke bericht van Kvdgeus :Hallo Marcel, :De laatste tijd plaats je spaties om allerlei woorden in sjablonen. :Ik heb gemerkt dat dat niet altijd goed gaat. :Bij voorbeeld bij het woord '''[[make vol]]'''. :Als je daar spaties plaatst rond het woord '''volmaken''' in het sjabloon <nowiki>{{aanv-w|volmaken}}</nowiki> verschijnt er een niet juiste link naar de vervoegingstabel. :Misschien moet je die spaties liever weglaten. :Als je dat toch wilt, overleg dan eerst met Marco: misschien dat hij een oplossing weet. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 21 mrt 2025 14:40 (CET) ::Tot de eigenaardigheden van de MediaWikiprogrammatuur is dat bij parameters die met een naam worden opgegeven (<nowiki>{{wanneer|jaar= 2025 }}</nowiki>) eventuele spaties eromheen worden weggelaten, maar bij parameters zonder naam (<nowiki>{{wanneer| 2025 }}</nowiki>) de spaties worden meegenomen in de verwerking. En omdat in dit geval de werkwoordnaam wordt aangevuld met "/vervoeging" om er een wikilink van te maken, komt er dan een spatie voor de deelstreep waardoor de link niet meer werkt. In principe is het wel mogelijk om een sjabloon te laten controleren of de parameter nog getrimd moet worden, maar we hebben erg veel sjablonen met onbenoemde parameters, dus dat zou wel een hele klus worden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 jun 2025 20:36 (CEST) == Argument "nld" in sjabloon <nowiki>{{nomact|nld}}</nowiki> == Hallo, Marcel, Onlangs heb je mijn wijziging op de pagina [[heropflakkering]] ongedaan gemaakt, waardoor het sjabloon <nowiki>{{nomact|nld}}</nowiki> weer in gebruik is. Ik begrijp niet helemaal waarom je dit hebt gedaan, gezien er nu een hoofdletter middenin een zin staat, terwijl het woord in kwestie geen eigennaam of initiaalwoord is. Ook staat er in de beschrijving van het sjabloon alleen dat "l" als argument een kleine letter oplevert, dus ik weet niet wat je hoopt te bereiken door "nld" als argument mee te geven. Met vriendelijke groet, [[Gebruiker:110521sgl|110521sgl]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:110521sgl|overleg]]) 4 jun 2025 16:25 (CEST) :mijn foutje ... [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 4 jun 2025 18:09 (CEST) ~ mij foutje~~ == uitspraak "compromis" == Ronald is begonnen onze standaardweergave IPA stelselmatig te vergelijken met die op woordenlijst.org. Naast een reeks systematische verschillen en fouten in dat bestand levert dit ook een reeks correcties bij ons op, die soms ook weer leiden tot verzoeken om gewijzigde geluidsbestanden. Een bijzonder geval is in dit verband het woord [[compromis]] en de daarvan afgeleide verkleinwoorden en meervouden, omdat die zowel vernederlandst (-mis) als meer op zijn Frans (-mie) kunnen worden uitgesproken en dat heeft weer effect op de schrijfwijze. Op dit moment staan de geluidsbestanden niet bij de schrijfwijze waar ze bij horen: je zou ze gewoon kunnen hernoemen. Daarnaast heeft het trefwoord nog een oud geluidsbestand dat alle vormen zowel op zijn Frans als vernederlandst laat horen. Dat is een systeem dat we niet meer volgen. Hier lijken mij twee eenvoudige bestanden, eentje met alleen het trefwoord in vernederlandste vorm en eentje met alleen het trefwoord op zijn Frans voldoende: de meervouden en verkleinwoorden hebben immers eigen pagina's. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 jun 2025 00:12 (CEST) :Een nobel werk om alle IPA's en uitspraken te controleren ik zal de verbeteringen gaan inspreken. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 jun 2025 07:30 (CEST) == Nieuwe vorm van linkspam == Toen ik een nieuwe gebruiker wou gaan verwelkomen, viel mij opeens op dat de "vindplaats" die deze op [[roaming]] had toegevoegd wel de NOS noemde, maar linkte naar een heel andere site, nota bene helemaal Engelstalig. Dat is kennelijk een nieuw soort linkspam, verborgen in een citeersjabloon. In plaats van een welkom is het nu een blokkade voor onbepaalde tijd geworden, maar het kan zijn dat er meer pogingen volgen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 jul 2025 17:24 (CEST) == Meervoudsvorm van maandnamen == De oude namen van maanden werden vaak meer als een soort eigennaam gebruikt. Bij een aantal zegt het WNT expliciet "geen meervoud". Misschien is het beter om hier alleen meervouden te vermelden als die ook echt in bronnen zijn terug te vinden, anders zijn we de geschiedenis aan het herschrijven. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 jul 2025 16:46 (CEST) == fulltimebasis == Volgens woordenlijst.org is [https://woordenlijst.org/zoeken/index.html?q=fulltimebasis&os=fulltime*&pos=AA%7CNOU%7CRES fulltimebasis] de enige officiële spelling. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 14 sep 2025 16:15 (CEST) :Maar er wordt wel doorverwezen naar taaladvies waarin fulltime medewerker / fulltime-medewerker / fulltimemedewerker alle drie worden goedgekeurd terwijl alleen fulltimemedewerker in de lijst staat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 14 sep 2025 17:07 (CEST) ::Als je fulltime als bijvoeglijk naamwoord gebruikt, kun je het met een spatie spellen. In het eerste geval is het geen woord of vaste verbinding; vergelijk ''[[rodekool]]'' en ''[[rode]] [[kool]]''. Het tweede geval gaat over het invoegen van een koppelteken, wat in een samenstelling altijd mogelijk is wanneer er reden is om te veronderstellen dat dat de lezers anders in verwarring zullen raken, een beetje vergelijkbaar met de mogelijkheid om een extra klemtoon te markeren met een accentteken op de betreffende klinker(s). Dit soort variaties kunnen op het trefwoord zelf worden aangegeven, maar we beschrijven ze niet op een aparte pagina. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 15 sep 2025 14:41 (CEST) == bedankje == Dankjewel voor het toevoegen van zoveel woorden 19 sep 2025 16:54 (CEST) == Aanpassing verzoekpagina == Dag Marcel, Bij het voorgaande bedankje sluit ik me natuurlijk graag aan. Je hebt zojuist op de verzoekpagina ook de lijsten met recent toegevoegde woorden weggehaald. Was dat je bedoeling? --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 okt 2025 12:53 (CEST) Ik heb de top-80 ondertussen zelf bijgewerkt, dus daar kan iedereen weer op losgaan. Dit zijn zelfstandige naamwoorden uit het Referentiebestand Nederlands, een wat oudere referentielijst voor het maken van vertaalwoordenboeken. Dit bestand bevatte ook heel wat woorden in een spelling die niet (meer) correct is, maar die heb ik er (hopelijk) allemaal uitgefilterd. Het zijn vaak wel termen die een kwart eeuw terug meer werden gebruikt dan nu. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 okt 2025 13:18 (CEST) == [[rooksalon]] == Hallo Marcel coenders {{ping|MarcoSwart}} zou [[:afbeelding:Koningswijk, 1000 Brussel, Belgium - panoramio (96).jpg|deze]] ondertussen beschikbare afbeelding meer duidelijkheid brengen? Vanwege de 3 landstalen bedoel ik. thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 15 okt 2025 07:05 (CEST) == Compleet maken van WikiWoordenboek == Hallo Marcel coenders, zullen we samen proberen WikiWoordenboek compleet te maken, als je plannen hebt hoe we dat kunnen doen laat ze dan achter op zijn overlegpagina. Met vriendelijke groet 11 nov 2025 09:17 (CEST) Ik heb gereageerd op mijn andere overlegpagina en mijn tijdelijke account heet nu ~2025-33234-20 en ik ben elke dag aanwezig dus je ziet elke dag mijn nieuwe woorden == [[screenshot]] == Hallo Marcel coenders, fijn dat je een afbeelding toevoegde. Zonet stootte ik op [[:afbeelding:ScreenCapture.PNG|"Een '''schreenshot''' van het lemma "Amsterdam" op Wikipedia"]] en ik vroeg me af of dit dichter bij huis, in het Nederlands misschien geschikt is. thanks. [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 7 dec 2025 16:36 (CET) == Ik ben de komende tijd minder actief Marcel coenders == Hoi Marcel coenders, ik wil zeggen dat ik heb geantwoord op je bericht met de bovenstaande titel op de overlegpagina van MarcoSwart 2025 11:44 (CEST) == [[haaienbek]] == Dag Marcel coenders, zonet plaatste ik een extra afbeelding bij het woord. Had je misschien een grotere foto beschikbaar [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=haaienbek&diff=3776307&oldid=3774567 hiervan]? [[Gebruiker:Lotje|Lotje]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Lotje|overleg]]) 10 dec 2025 05:46 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Beste Marcel coenders. Ik wens je alvast hele fijne kerstdagen en een heel gelukkig 2026! 22 dec 2025 11:13 (CET) == Kerstgroet == Ik wens jou ook een hele fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026! [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-27250-97|&#126;2025-27250-97]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-27250-97|overleg]]) 22 dec 2025 21:06 (CET) == dubbele IPA's == Hallo Marcel, Allereerst nog de beste wensen voor 2026!!!<br> Ik heb wat controles gedaan op de IPA's en zag dat je soms twee IPA's in één sjabloon <nowiki>{{IPA-nl-standaard|}}</nowiki> plaatst.<br> Dat is niet de bedoeling want dan klopt er echt niets meer van.<br> Als er twee mogelijkheden zijn om een woord uit te spreken moeten die elk in één <nowiki>{{IPA-nl-standaard|}}</nowiki> worden geplaatst (met een komma ertussen).<br> Zie bij voorbeeld bij https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=autozaak&diff=5433042&oldid=5413645<br> Vaak is het mogelijk de twee IPA's tot één te maken omdat het verschil alleen zit in het wel of niet hoorbaar uitspreken van de n.<br> Dat heb ik gedaan bij https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=dierenzaak&diff=5433045&oldid=5413614<br> Groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 9 jan 2026 18:08 (CET) == vraag == Hallo Marcel coenders zou u mijn bijdragen nog even willen verbeteren als hoe u dat altijd doet. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:35 (CET) :Ik zou trouwens ook wel willen weten wanneer u er tijd voor heeft. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:47 (CET) ::Ik bedoel eigenlijk iets anders als hoe u het nu doet ik bedoel dat ik bijvoorbeeld de pagina airtrack heb aangemaakt en hoe u die pagina daarna hebt verbeterd dat bedoel ik. Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:49 (CET) :::Ik bedoel niet alleen het woordgeslacht. [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 11:58 (CET) ::::Als u er tijd voor heeft laat dan een bericht achter op mijn overlegpagina [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 12:08 (CET) == Verbuigingen van puistachtig == Hallo Marcel coenders u heeft puistachtig correct geschreven, maar alle verbuigingen beginnen met puitstachtig zou u die pagina’s willen hernoemen? Groetjes [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 19:12 (CET) :Bedankt [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 19:22 (CET) ::Graag gedaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 19 jan 2026 19:22 (CET) == Fouten in overtreffende trappen == Hallo Marcel, Ik ben de verbuigingen van de bijvoeglijke naamwoorden een beetje aan het controleren.<br> Het viel me op dat je vaak de overtreffende trappen verkeerd hebt ingevoerd.<br> Zie bij voorbeeld de wijzigingen die ik heb aangebracht bij :<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=zwavelachtigst&diff=5437284&oldid=4007351<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=zwavelachtigste&diff=5437287&oldid=4007352<br> en bij:<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=rosachtigst&diff=5437294&oldid=3877045<br> https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=rosachtigste&diff=5437297&oldid=3877046<br> <br> Veel van deze narigheid kan worden voorkomen door gebruik te maken van standaardsjablonen zoals:<br> <nowiki>{{adjcomp|p=1|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}e]]|[[{{pn}}er]]|[[{{pn}}ere]]|[[{{pn}}t]]|[[{{pn}}te]]|part={{pn}}|partcomp=[[{{pn}}ers]]}} </nowiki> groet, [[Gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|Kvdrgeus]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Kvdrgeus|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:13 (CET) :Ik hoop dat ik deze 'jeugdzondes' uit 2019 nu wat minder maak, bedankt voor je oplettende controle werk. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 10:22 (CET) == Geluidsbestand 'worstelen' == Misschien had je hem al op de radar, maar voor alle zekerheid vraag ik ook je aandacht voor [[Overleg:worstelen|deze opmerking]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 jan 2026 23:43 (CET) == Ik werk tijdelijk met dit account == Hallo Marcel coenders ik kan geen tijdelijk account aanmaken en heb daarom dit account aangemaakt ik krijg een melding als: De mogelijkheid tot het bewerken zonder aanmelden is tijdelijk beperkt. Maak een account aan om te bewerken, of probeer het later nog eens. Als u mijn onvolledige pagina’s nog aan wil vullen laat dan een reactie achter op dit account en niet op ~2025-37261-51. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 21:08 (CET) :Misschien is het een goed idee om je onvolledige pagina's minder onvolledig te maken. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 21:12 (CET) ::Ik ben trouwens ‘s nachts meestal niet aanwezig [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 25 jan 2026 21:24 (CET) == Verbuigingen studeerbaar == Hallo Marcel coenders u heeft de verbuigingen van studeerbaar weer fout geschreven, want die beginnen met sudeer. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 16:51 (CET) :Net allemaal verwijderd ga ze zo weer invoeren [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 10 feb 2026 16:54 (CET) == Verbuigingen slijmoplossend == Hallo Marcel coenders alle verbuigingen van slijmoplossend beginnen met sijmoplossend. Graag verbeteren. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 18:48 (CET) :Had ik ook gezien, is verbeterd [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 19 feb 2026 18:55 (CET) == vraag == Mag ik iets vragen? Bent u gestopt met onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 11:46 (CET) :Ja daar ben ik mee gestopt. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 12:37 (CET) ::Is daar ook een reden voor of niet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 12:38 (CET) :::Erg veel werk, past niet in mijn werkschema, en volgens mij kun je het best zelf als je de voorbeelden volgt van andere woorden dat zijn dus 3 redenen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 13:06 (CET) ::::Lukt het wel als ik met een minder hoog tempo woorden aanmaak of bent u er gewoon helemaal mee gestopt? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 13:11 (CET) :::::Nee dan lukt het ook niet. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) ::::::Wel bedankt dat u eerst wel al mijn onvolledige pagina’s heeft aangevuld [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 20 feb 2026 14:41 (CET) :::::::Nog 1 vraag bent u voor altijd gestopt met onvolledige pagina’s aanvullen of tijdelijk. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 21 feb 2026 12:05 (CET) ::::::::Voor altijd [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 21 feb 2026 12:12 (CET) :::::::::Veel plezier nog op WikiWoordenboek en ik hoop dat u het naar uw zin heeft [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 21 feb 2026 13:11 (CET) == Zorgen dat mijn pagina’s minder onvolledig worden == Hallo Marcel coenders zullen we een manier bedenken hoe mijn onvolledige pagina’s toch minder onvolledig worden? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:32 (CET) :Heb je enige ervaring met programmeren. Veel van de handelingen voor het maken van een meer complete pagina zijn bij mij sterk geautomatiseerd. Ik gebruik Python en AutoHotKey. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:44 (CET) ::Nee ik heb daar niet veel verstand van [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:48 (CET) :::Had ik ook niet ik had alleen wat ervaring met BASIC de andere twee heb ik in de loop van de jaren geleerd. Heel bevredigend hoe je langzamerhand toch weer nieuwe vaardigheden kunt leren. Mijn programma's zijn eigenlijk heel simpel (voor mij) maar door een totaal gebrek aan transparantheid en gestructureerdheid niet echt geschikt voor overdracht naar anderen. :::als voorbeeld hier mijn Python programma dat ik gebruik voor toevoegen van meervouden / verkleinwoorden aan al bestaande lemma's :::def spatieweg (woord): ::: woord = woord.replace (" "," ") ::: woord = woord.replace ("·","") ::: woord = woord.replace (" ","") ::: woord = woord.replace ("="," ") ::: return woord :::def puntje (woord): ::: woord = woord.replace (" "," ") ::: woord = woord.replace (" ","·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("="," ") ::: woord = woord.replace (" ·"," ") ::: woord = woord.replace ("aa·","a·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("oo·","o·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("ee·","e·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("uu·","u·") ::: woord = woord.replace ("·ü","·u") ::: woord = woord.replace ("·ë","·e") ::: return woord :::def haakje (woord): ::: if woord > "": ::: woord = "[["+woord+"]]" ::: return woord :::hyper = "" :::hypo = "" :::drv = "" :::rel = "" :::ant = "" :::w0="" :::w1="" :::w2="" :::w2t="" :::w3="" :::w4="" :::plaatje="" :::wikipedia="" :::synoniem="" :::refs="" :::betekenis1 = "" :::betekenis2 = "" :::categorie1 = "" :::categorie2 = "" :::categorie3 = "" :::betekenis3 = "" :::wntr = "" :::samen1 = "" :::samen2 = "" :::samen3 = "" :::samen4 = "" :::ipa = "" :::ipa1 = "" :::if samen4 == "1": ::: samen = "*{{samen|nld|"+samen1+woordsoort1+samen2+woordsoort2+samen3+"}}" :::# schoorpaal :::# sche·per=========================================================================================================================" :::w0 ="woon·pro·ject" :::w1 = w0 + "" :::w2 = w0 +"s" :::#w2t = w0 + "n" :::w3 = w0 +" je" :::if w3 != "": ::: w4 = w3 + "s" :::#======================================================================================================= :::#=========================PROGRAMMA============================================== ::: :::w1s = spatieweg (w1) :::w1p = puntje (w1) :::w2s = spatieweg (w2) :::w2p = puntje (w2) :::w2h = haakje (w2s) :::w2ts = spatieweg (w2t) :::w2tp = puntje (w2t) :::w2th = haakje (w2ts) :::w3s = spatieweg (w3) :::w3p = puntje (w3) :::w3h = haakje (w3s) :::w4s = spatieweg (w4) :::w4p = puntje (w4) :::w4h = haakje (w4s) ::: :::#==================================WOORD :::print ("") :::print ("") :::if w2 != "": ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w2p) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-pl|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") :::if w2t != "": ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w2tp) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-pl|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") :::if w3 != "": ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w3p) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-dim|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") ::: print ("") :::if w4 != "": ::: print ("{{=nld=}}") ::: print ("{{-pron-}}") ::: print ("*{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}}") ::: print ("{{-syll-}}") ::: print ("*",w4p) ::: print ("{{-noun-|0}}") ::: print ("{{noun-dim-pl|"+w1s+"}}") ::: print ("") [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 11:56 (CET) :Ik begrijp dit ook echt niet is het ook goed als ik het af en toe zelfstandig doe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 12:00 (CET) ::er is een hulp middel "{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *xx·xx·xx <!--{{-etym-}}--> {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|||}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} {{f}} {{f}}/{{m}} {{n}} {{p}} # {{bijv-1|.... '''{{pn}}'''.}} <!-- deze pijlen verzetten als er bij de onderstaande koppen informatie te melden valt {{-writ-}} {{-homo-}} {{-syn-}} {{-ant-}} {{-drv-}} {{-rel-}} {{-quot-}} {{-prov-}} {{-expr-}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1.}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} --> nl-adjc-lemma}} nl-verb-lemma}} " je typt eerst {{subst: in daarna nl-noun-lemma}} dan sla je de pagina op en gaat hem daarna weer bewerken. er staat dan een heel sjabloon voor je klaar. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 12:06 (CET) :je vind deze code onderaan een bewerkingspagina onder het kopje stramienen [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 22 feb 2026 12:10 (CET) == Ik mis de samenwerking == Beste Marcel coenders, Ik merk dat ik het niet meer naar mijn zin heb nu u mijn onvolledige pagina’s niet meer kunt aanvullen heeft u een oplossing voor dit probleem? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 20:48 (CET) :zou je hierop willen reageren? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 17:47 (CET) ::nee [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:00 (CET) == Synoniemen toevoegen bij pagina’s == Nog 1 laatste vraag Hallo Marcel coenders dankuwel voor uw reactie, nee is voor mij een duidelijk antwoord. Doet u nog wel synoniemen toevoegen bij pagina’s of doet u dat ook niet meer ik heb een hele fijne samenwerking met u gehad en vond het fijn dat ik ook aan uw pagina’s heb mogen bijdragen. Groetjes en heel veel succes verder op Wikiwoordenboek. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 21:50 (CET) : "Ik heb nog geen reactie van u ontvangen, maar ik begrijp dat uw werkschema vol zit. Wanneer zou u tijd hebben om hier kort naar te kijken?"[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) == balseminetje == Hallo Marcel coenders voor mijn gevoel is balseminetje geen correct Nederlands, want als je balseminetje intikt zijn er geen zoekresultaten. Met vriendelijke groet. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 20:01 (CET) :[[balsaminetje]] wel!, typefout verbeterd ook bij [[balsaminetjes]] [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 13 mrt 2026 22:24 (CET) == Spelfouten cultuurshokcursus == Hoi Marcel coenders zou u voortaan even kunnen kijken of het woord goed gespeld is voordat u het toevoegt. Met vriendelijke groet [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 19 mrt 2026 15:30 (CET) == Aanmelding moderatoren == Kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:49 (CEST) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:54 (CEST) ::Maar als Marcel coenders echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:56 (CEST) :::Marcel coenders, kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:30 (CEST) ::::Marcel coenders kiest tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:40 (CEST) :::::maar kiezen Kvdrgeus en Jochenknabben wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:47 (CEST) a7nxytq0bs31ymimvtlwgelrr4qhq7l 0 343937 5504241 5476531 2026-03-31T10:02:09Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504241 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|kɔnsi'stɛnt}} {{-syll-}} *con·sis·tent {{-etym-}} * Leenwoord uit het Latijn, in de betekenis van ‘duurzaam’ voor het eerst aangetroffen in het jaar 1824 {{sijs}} {{adjcomp|p=1|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}e]]|[[{{pn}}er]]|[[{{pn}}ere]]|[[{{pn}}st]]|[[{{pn}}ste]]|part=[[{{pn}}s]]|partcomp=[[{{pn}}ers]]}} {{-adjc-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' #standvastig, betrouwbaar, niet onderhevig aan grillen {{bijv-1|Er moet '''consistent''' beleid komen.}} {{bijv-1|De regeringen van vijf EU-lidstaten werken „[[consistent]] en [[opzettelijk]]” aan het [[verzwakken]] van de [[rechtsstaat]]: [[Slowakije]], [[Bulgarije]], [[Hongarije]], [[Kroatië]] en [[Italië]].<ref>[https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2026/03/30/onderzoek-rechtsstaat-gaat-in-veel-eu-lidstaten-achteruit-in-vijf-landen-is-dat-zelfs-opzet-van-regering-a4924299 www.nrc.nl (30 mrt 2026)]</ref>}} {{-ant-}} *[[grillig]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. standvastig, betrouwbaar}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|consistent}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{crr13|N=99|V=97}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=fra=}} {{-verb-|0}} {{fra-verb-form|consister|pers=3|num=p|temp=ip}}{{fra-verb-form|consister|pers=3|num=p|temp=sp|nohead=1}} 0fibzn24jjwvh2oau3o7bsg328ffcmf 0 423930 5504242 5502736 2026-03-31T10:05:16Z MarcoSwart 9001 aanvulling 5504242 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈbɛlə(n)ˌblas}} {{-syll-}} *bel·len·blaas {{-etym-}} *{{+|zn}}: {{singt|a}}, afgeleid van {{Q|bellenblazen|nld|ww}} zonder het achtervoegsel [[-en]] *{{+|ww}}: {{Q|bellenblazen|nld|ww}} zonder de uitgang ''-en'' {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|-|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #zeepsop met een samenstelling waardoor het stevige bubbels vormt {{citeer|web|citaat=Wat is de beste bellenblaas? Dat hangt af van het afwasmiddel, de kwaliteit van het water, hoeveel afwasmiddel je gebruikt en de luchtvochtigheid.|titel=Dr. Zeepaard blaast bellen |datum=18 april 2009 |website=nrc.nl |taal=nl |bezochtdatum=2026-03-31}} {{-verb-|0}} {{1ps-bijz|bellenblazen}} {{citeer|web|citaat=Ik spreek het woord een paar keer luid en fluisterend uit. Ik proef de alliteratie alsof ik bellenblaas. |titel=Het beurtbalkje |datum=13 juli 2015 |auteur=Martin Los |url=https://martinlos.nl/mijnblog/beurtbalkje/ |website=martinlos.nl |taal=nl |archiefurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20160528182520/https://martinlos.nl/mijnblog/beurtbalkje/ |bezochtdatum=2026-03-31}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} hkm26cbpdbbxjh0hj02n1tvclo5dzs6 0 481998 5504275 5347476 2026-03-31T11:01:06Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504275 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈkʏns(t)xəˌbɪt}} {{-syll-}} *kunst·ge·bit {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|kunst|||gebit|}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[kunstgebitten]]|[[kunstgebitje]]|[[kunstgebitjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{medisch|nld}} prothese die de natuurlijke tanden en kiezen vervangt wanneer deze verloren zijn gegaan door [[cariës]] of [[parodontitis]] {{bijv-1|Het blijft het meest komische incident dat zich in Nederland bij een koninklijke inhuldiging heeft voorgedaan: het '''kunstgebit''' van Wilhelmina dat in 1948 na haar abdicatie tijdens de balkonscène uit haar mond vloog tijdens het roepen van "Leve onze koningin, hoera, hoera, hoera".}} {{-syn-}} * [[gebitsprothese]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|false teeth}} {{p}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|dentier}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} 5f6vcbt1x607qg8791kxse3a8v0uvpz 0 581011 5504239 5502680 2026-03-31T09:48:14Z MarcoSwart 9001 aanvulling 5504239 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} * {{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈteɣə(n)ˌspelə(n)}} {{-syll-}} *te·gen·spe·len {{-etym-}} *{{+|ww}}: {{samen|nld|tegen|bw||spelen|ww}} {{wnt-r|M067919.re.381}} *{{+|zn}}: {{Q|tegenspel|nld|zn}} met de uitgang ''-en'' {{-nlstam-|{{pn}}|[[speelde tegen]]|[[tegengespeeld]]|||scheid=s|7={{nlzwak-d}}}} {{-verb-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|nld}} als opponent bij een spel optreden {{-drv-}} *[[tegenspeler]] {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|tegenspel}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} d2szztcil165naz43t6bgxuujkwzpnj 0 659947 5504055 4908649 2026-03-30T15:26:25Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504055 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *kinds·deel {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|kind|||deel|||s}}{{wnt-r|M032408}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[kindsdelen]]|||}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #gedeelte van een nalatenschap dat door de kinderen wordt geërfd wanneer er geen testament is opgemaakt {{bijv-1| Ons huidig Burgerlijk Wetboek is niet erg royaal tegenover de echtgenoot van een overledene. Deze krijgt slechts een '''kindsdeel''', en dat kan te weinig zijn om behoorlijk van te leven en om het genot van huis en inboedel te behouden. Weliswaar geeft de praktijk weinig moeilijkheden te zien - vaak is er een testament en kennelijk blijft het gedrag van de kinderen binnen de perken - maar begrijpelijkerwijs wordt in het nieuw voorgestelde erfrecht geprobeerd de positie van de langstlevende echtgenoot te verbeteren. <ref> NRC J. de Boer 27 november 1997</ref>}} #(''Nederland'') een [[vordering]] die de kinderen van de overledene krijgen op de langstlevende partner ter hoogte van de waarde van hun theoretisch [[erfdeel]], uit te betalen in een geldbedrag (als dat later nog bestaat) {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1. gedeelte van een nalatenschap dat door de kinderen wordt geërfd wanneer er geen testament is opgemaakt }} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|child's portion}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-|W=nl:kindsdeel}} {{refs}} krzswmb7wivzxthii1ufmgj35konp0s 0 685385 5504226 4804187 2026-03-31T09:04:12Z Lotje 8037 beschrijving uitgebreid 5504226 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[afbeelding: Toon Hermans 1.JPG |thumb|{{w|nl|Toon Hermans|Toon Hermans}}, de eerste Nederlandse artiest die een avondvullende '''onemanshow''' bracht.]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *one·man·show {{-etym-}} * Samenstelling uit het Engels {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[onemanshows]]|||}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} # optreden waarbij één persoon de hele show alleen opvoert {{bijv-1| Hoe kan een artiest hier boven het maaiveld uitsteken? Duizenden ponden neertellen om affiches in de stad te verspreiden, helpt. Tientallen sterren in recensies verzamelen en die vervolgens met stickers op al die posters kleven, ook. Net als inspelen op de actualiteit, zoals <i>Brexit, the musical</i> en <i>Trumpageddon</i> – acteur Simon Jay fluisterde ons toe dat hij zijn '''onemanshow''' bij iedere Trumptweet weer moet updaten. <ref>de Standaard MAANDAG 14 AUGUSTUS 2017 </ref>}} {{bijv-1| Cabaretier Paul van Vliet stopt met spelen. Hij voltooit dit najaar zijn reeks '''onemanshows''' in de Koninklijke Schouwburg in Den Haag. Daarna zal de 81-jarige theatericoon alleen nog voor incidentele voorstellingen het podium op gaan, zo maakte de schouwburg bekend. <ref>Tubantia 02-09-2017</ref>}} {{-syn-}} * [[solovoorstelling]] {{-hyper-}} * [[cabaretvoorstelling]], [[theatervoorstelling]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{crr13|N=92|V=90}} {{-info-|W=nl:onemanshow}} {{refs}} t2vnl6k4hjxy0m323ewzfn6hpto5u0s 0 760571 5504286 3880414 2026-03-31T11:12:16Z Jochenknabben 60937 {{-trans-|mossig}} 5504286 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|bəˈmɔst}} {{-syll-}} *be·most {{-etym-}} * {{pseudodw|mos|bt}} {{wnt-r|M006975}} {{adjcomp|p=1|{{pn}}|[[bemoste]]|[[bemoster]]|[[bemostere]]|{{*(|{{pn}}st}}|{{*(|{{pn}}ste}}|part=[[bemosts]]|partcomp=[[bemosters]]}} {{-adjc-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' # met mos bedekt {{bijv-1|Die vaak '''bemoste''' loofbomen groeien op bergheuvels die nog ouder zijn dan de Alpen. Ze zijn doorsneden met spannende, vrijwel geheel onverharde wandelpaden. Zo fantastisch bewegwijzerd dat het onmogelijk is te verdwalen. Want de wandelpaden worden aangelegd met dezelfde pünktlichkeit als waarmee de Duitsers hun Mercedes, BMW, Audi en VW maken. <ref>De Telegraaf J. Duijs 2 juli 2015 [https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/790886/wandelen-op-de-saar-hunsruck-steig Wandelen op de Saar-Hunsrück-Steig] </ref>}} {{bijv-1|Je zou kunnen denken dat schoonheid is wat de geest ervan maakt, maar alles is schoonheid: vrouwen die offermandjes maken, vissers tot hun middel in de zee, '''bemoste''' beelden, bootjes. Vijftig foto’s zijn zo gemaakt. <ref>HP de Tijd 31 maart 2014 [https://www.hpdetijd.nl/2014-03-31/fotocursus-hoe-fotografeer-je-een-balinese-lijkverbranding/ Fotocursus: hoe fotografeer je een Balinese lijkverbranding?] </ref>}} {{note-beter-meest|{{pn}}}} {{-syn-}} * [[mossig]], [[mosachtig]] {{-trans-|mossig}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{crr13|N=88|V=84}} {{refs}} h1ao1od3fjebf0shj5fzj3knztux6s2 0 789458 5504259 4896490 2026-03-31T10:43:14Z Jochenknabben 60937 + Frans 5504259 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *ja·bot {{-etym-}} * {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} / {{n}} {{wnt-r|M028524}} #{{kleding|nld}} Aanvankelijk: een geplooide strook aan de borst van een mannenoverhemd. Na ongeveer 1880 een kanten plooisel, door dames op het japonlijf gedragen {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|chorrera de camisa}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|guirindola}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ʒa.bo/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{Q|{{pn}}s|fra}}|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}} [2] #{{kleding|fra}} {{Q|jabot|nld|zn}} {{-desc-}} *{{nld}}: {{Q|jabot|nld}} 00qtfdga6f8tdcrzkr4vmlorc739sej 5504260 5504259 2026-03-31T10:48:24Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504260 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *ja·bot {{-etym-}} * {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} / {{n}} {{wnt-r|M028524}} #{{kleding|nld}} Aanvankelijk: een geplooide strook aan de borst van een mannenoverhemd. Na ongeveer 1880 een kanten plooisel, door dames op het japonlijf gedragen {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|chorrera de camisa}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|guirindola}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ʒa.bo/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{Q|{{pn}}s|fra}}|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}} [2]; deel van het darmkanaal dat gebruikt wordt om tijdelijk voedsel op te slaan om te geven aan de jongen #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}}; bij werksters van sociale insecten (bepaalde soorten mieren, bijen en wespen) een deel van het darmkanaal om tijdelijk voedsel op te slaan om te geven aan de kolonie #{{kleding|fra}} {{Q|jabot|nld|zn}} {{-syn-}} *[2] {{Q|jabot social|fra}} {{-desc-}} *{{nld}}: {{Q|jabot|nld}} s3e6fnqz7prn8d7ekhbh6mjjyylj14q 5504262 5504260 2026-03-31T10:51:20Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504262 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *ja·bot {{-etym-}} * van het Franse jabot {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} / {{n}} {{wnt-r|M028524}} #{{kleding|nld}} Aanvankelijk: een geplooide strook aan de borst van een mannenoverhemd. Na ongeveer 1880 een kanten plooisel, door dames op het japonlijf gedragen {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|chorrera de camisa}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|guirindola}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ʒa.bo/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{Q|{{pn}}s|fra}}|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}} [2]; deel van het darmkanaal dat gebruikt wordt om tijdelijk voedsel op te slaan om te geven aan de jongen #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}}; bij werksters van sociale insecten (bepaalde soorten mieren, bijen en wespen) een deel van het darmkanaal om tijdelijk voedsel op te slaan om te geven aan de kolonie #{{kleding|fra}} {{Q|jabot|nld|zn}} {{-syn-}} *[2] {{Q|jabot social|fra}} {{-desc-}} *{{nld}}: {{Q|jabot|nld}} 8zbwp6zp7cu8ppowxzyucu18eh9lday 5504293 5504262 2026-03-31T11:31:26Z Jochenknabben 60937 Fr: + sound 5504293 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *ja·bot {{-etym-}} * van het Franse {{Q|jabot|fra}} {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} / {{n}} {{wnt-r|M028524}} #{{kleding|nld}} Aanvankelijk: een geplooide strook aan de borst van een mannenoverhemd. Na ongeveer 1880 een kanten plooisel, door dames op het japonlijf gedragen {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|chorrera de camisa}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|guirindola}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-VictorDtmtc-jabot.wav|{{pn}} (Nancy)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ʒa.bo/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{Q|{{pn}}s|fra}}|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}} [2]; deel van het darmkanaal dat gebruikt wordt om tijdelijk voedsel op te slaan om te geven aan de jongen #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}}; bij werksters van sociale insecten (bepaalde soorten mieren, bijen en wespen) een deel van het darmkanaal om tijdelijk voedsel op te slaan om te geven aan de kolonie #{{kleding|fra}} {{Q|jabot|nld|zn}} {{-syn-}} *[2] {{Q|jabot social|fra}} {{-desc-}} *{{nld}}: {{Q|jabot|nld}} kzbed4b3qnanqy29wqt6b7yhanodtb9 5504294 5504293 2026-03-31T11:31:53Z Jochenknabben 60937 + Franse vertaling 5504294 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *ja·bot {{-etym-}} * van het Franse {{Q|jabot|fra}} {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} / {{n}} {{wnt-r|M028524}} #{{kleding|nld}} Aanvankelijk: een geplooide strook aan de borst van een mannenoverhemd. Na ongeveer 1880 een kanten plooisel, door dames op het japonlijf gedragen {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|jabot}} {{m}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|chorrera de camisa}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|guirindola}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-VictorDtmtc-jabot.wav|{{pn}} (Nancy)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ʒa.bo/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{Q|{{pn}}s|fra}}|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}} [2]; deel van het darmkanaal dat gebruikt wordt om tijdelijk voedsel op te slaan om te geven aan de jongen #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}}; bij werksters van sociale insecten (bepaalde soorten mieren, bijen en wespen) een deel van het darmkanaal om tijdelijk voedsel op te slaan om te geven aan de kolonie #{{kleding|fra}} {{Q|jabot|nld|zn}} {{-syn-}} *[2] {{Q|jabot social|fra}} {{-desc-}} *{{nld}}: {{Q|jabot|nld}} gcfsamwt1cr52pazwyxdpfhk71ndsog 5504295 5504294 2026-03-31T11:41:09Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504295 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *ja·bot {{-etym-}} * van het Franse {{Q|jabot|fra}} {{ebank}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} / {{n}} {{wnt-r|M028524}} #{{kleding|nld}} Aanvankelijk: een geplooide strook aan de borst van een mannenoverhemd. Na ongeveer 1880 een kanten plooisel, door dames op het japonlijf gedragen {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|jabot}} {{m}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|chorrera de camisa}} {{f}}, {{trad|es|guirindola}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{Leesonderzoek-2013}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-VictorDtmtc-jabot.wav|{{pn}} (Nancy)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ʒa.bo/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{Q|{{pn}}s|fra}}|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}} [2]; deel van het darmkanaal van vogels dat gebruikt wordt om tijdelijk voedsel op te slaan om te geven aan de jongen #{{zoötomie|fra}} {{Q|krop|nld|zn}}; bij werksters van sociale insecten (bepaalde soorten mieren, bijen en wespen) een deel van het darmkanaal om tijdelijk voedsel op te slaan om te geven aan de kolonie #{{kleding|fra}} {{Q|jabot|nld|zn}} {{-syn-}} *[2] {{Q|jabot social|fra}} {{-desc-}} *{{nld}}: {{Q|jabot|nld}} 2ymb1qsq2zde8l13aq044nnqlxy6xqb 0 791005 5504261 3957709 2026-03-31T10:48:47Z Jochenknabben 60937 + Frans 5504261 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} *ja·bots {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|jabot}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{=fra=}} {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|jabot|lang=Frans|gesl=m}} otso1wcl4cohrtffdk8zfe2zg8esi8n 0 1092825 5504257 4823774 2026-03-31T10:35:06Z MarcoSwart 9001 aanpassing, zie Overleg 5504257 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ʒiˈrɑfəˌnɛk}} {{-syll-}} *gi·raf·fen·nek {{-etym-}} *{{samen|nld|giraf|zn||nek|zn||en}} {{wnt-r|M020465.re.2}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[giraffennekken]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{zoötomie|nld}} kenmerkend, zeer langgerekt lichaamsdeel dat de verbinding vormt tussen de kop en de romp van de grote Afrikaanse herkauwer {{species|Giraffa camelopardalis}} {{citeer|web|citaat=Ik was tien toen ik The Lion King in de bioscoop zag, en ik was diep, diep onder de indruk. Roerloos keek ik toe hoe in de openingsscene rijen '''giraffennekken''' sierlijk bogen, er formaties flamingo’s overvlogen en een soort blauwe kippen zenuwachtig wegschoten voor de stampende tred van kolossale olifantenpoten. |url=https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2011/10/11/een-hyena-zou-absoluut-beledigd-zijn-12039440-a346916 |titel=Een hyena zou absoluut beledigd zijn |auteur=Renske de Greef |datum=11 oktober 2011 |website=nrc.nl|taal=nl|bezochtdatum=2021-07-31}} {{citeer|web|citaat=Deze week hebben twee biologen die het beter weten de kranten gehaald. Volgens hen heeft de lengte van de giraffennek meer te maken met de voortplanting dan met voedselgaring. |url=https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/1997/01/20/zapman-7339404-a325429 |titel=Zapman |auteur=Hans Aarsman |datum=20 januari 1997 |website=nrc.nl|taal=nl|bezochtdatum=2021-07-31}} #{{figuurlijk|nld}} {{anatomie|nld}} opvallend lange verbinding tussen hoofd en romp bij een mens {{citeer|web|citaat=Hij is een ontwapenende verschijning. Niet alleen omdat hij lang is, een beetje slungelig met zijn giraffennek, maar vooral door de vilten puntpantoffels waarop hij zich voor en na de voorstelling beweegt door Dansens Hus, het theater voor hedendaagse dans in Oslo. |url=https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2019/06/26/dansen-over-zelfhaat-selfies-en-leugens-op-julidans-a3965125 |titel= Dansen over zelfhaat, selfies en leugens op Julidans |auteur=Francine van der Wiel |datum=26 juni 2019 |website=nrc.nl|taal=nl|bezochtdatum=2021-07-31}} {{-writ-}} *[[giraffenek]] ''(vormvariant op basis van [[giraffe]])'' {{-syn-}} *[[giraffenhals]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} pg884bas4mz0ym4dqxnjgre3voye1yu 0 1116638 5504233 5351488 2026-03-31T09:22:32Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504233 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈspɛkswurt}} {{-syll-}} *spek·zwoerd {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|spek|zn||zwoerd|zn}}{{wnt-r|M090749.re.3}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[spekzwoerden]]|[[spekzwoerdje]]|[[spekzwoerdjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} # {{voeding|nld}} de buitenste harde laag die aan het spek van een varken vastzit (de huid van het varken) {{citeer|boek|jaar=2011|auteur=Henning Mankell (vert.Clementine Luijten)|titel=Italiaanse schoenen|isbn=9789044521832|uitgever=De Geus (uitgeverij)|taal=nl| citaat= De kat lag bij de appelboom te loeren naar de pestvogels die in het spekzwoerd hingen te pikken.}} {{-syn-}} *[[spekzwoord]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-|W=nl:zwoerd}} {{refs}} oat8ktndk18vv41zeg9wgn1duzofb2f 0 1136981 5504191 4835045 2026-03-31T04:33:18Z Lotje 8037 beschrijving uitgebreid 5504191 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[Afbeelding:Andrena tibialis female (15988239300).jpg|thumb|Een '''grijze rimpelrug''' (''andrena tibialis'') ♀]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{IPA-nl-standaard|plaatshouder taxonomie}} {{-syll-}} *grij·ze rim·pel·rug {{-etym-}} *{{coll|nld}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}gen]]|[[grijs rimpelruggetje]]|[[{{pn}}getjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} # {{vliesvleugeligen|nld}} {{species|Andrena tibialis}} een [[vliesvleugelig]] [[insect]] uit de familie '''Andrenidae'''. De wetenschappelijke naam van de soort is voor het eerst geldig gepubliceerd in 1802 door Kirby {{-hyper-}} * [[zandbijen]], [[bijachtigen]], [[vliesvleugeligen]], [[insecten]], [[zespotigen]], [[geleedpotigen]], [[dieren]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{-info-}} rkpiq344cgwlptydezwpxnvoe1a6j2b 0 1140277 5504276 5441900 2026-03-31T11:02:14Z Jochenknabben 60937 + Franse en Duitse vertaling 5504276 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[Afbeelding:Calvia decemguttata03.jpg|thumb|right|220px|]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{IPA-nl-standaard|plaatshouder taxonomie}} {{-syll-}} *tien·vlek·lie·ve·heers·beest·je {{-etym-}} *{{dimt|a}}; {{samen|nld|tienvlek|zn||lieveheersbeestje|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]}} {{Clr}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} # {{kevers|nld}} {{species|Calvia decemguttata}} een 5 tot 6,5 mm grote kever uit de familie [[lieveheersbeestjes]] of Coccinellidae. De kever komt in grote delen van [[Europa]] voor. In Nederland trekt de kever vanuit [[w:Zuid-Limburg (Nederland)|Zuid-Limburg]] de laatste jaren verder naar het noorden {{-hyper-}} * [[lieveheersbeestjes]], [[kevers]], [[insecten]], [[zespotigen]], [[geleedpotigen]], [[dieren]] {{-rel-}} * [[achttienvleklieveheersbeestje]], [[veertienvleklieveheersbeestje]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1.}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Licht-Marienkäfer}} {{m}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|coccinelle à dix points blancs}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{-info-}} b7kbhgqk7dohuup4h9oh6q2rzo6hw74 3 1161450 5504144 5362210 2026-03-30T19:17:41Z De Wikischim 13592 /* Q */ 5504144 wikitext text/x-wiki __NOINDEX__ == [[draaien]] == Dag De Wikischim!<br /> Het is volkomen juist om mijn wijziging ongedaan te maken. Het was een verwijdering in het verkeerde venster op mijn pc. Sorry. -- [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 11 jun 2023 22:21 (CEST) :Hall Cadfaell, OK geen enkel probleem, ik vermoedde eigenlijk al zoiets. (Overigens heel typisch: "...bewerking is terugge''draaid'' op ''draaien''....".) [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 12 jun 2023 00:20 (CEST) ::thx, lol [[Gebruiker:Cadfaell|Cadfaell]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Cadfaell|overleg]]) 12 jun 2023 10:27 (CEST) == Pagina's voor frasen == De afspraak dat frasen (waaronder spreekwoorden) op een eigen pagina beschreven ''kunnen'' worden is al vele jaren terug gemaakt, het gebeurde in ieder geval al toen ik hier net actief werd. Ik heb sindsdien alleen discussies gezien over de manier waarop we dat doen, maar niet over de vraag óf we dat doen. Het is voor grote algemene woordenboeken heel gebruikelijk om spreekwoorden te beschrijven. Uiteraard bestaan er daarnaast gespecialiseerde woordenboeken, maar die vormen op zichzelf geen argument om hun inhoud dan maar weg te laten uit algemene woordenboeken. WikiWoordenboek gebruikt hierbij het stramien dat we ook voor andere woorden gebruiken. Door het aanhouden van dat stramien is het in mijn ogen ook duidelijk dat we op dit soort lemma's iets anders doen dan Wikipedia of Wikiquote. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2024 11:46 (CET) :Dag Marco, ik moest heel even nadenken maar neem aan dat je het [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=maart&diff=prev&oldid=4762438 hierover] hebt? Tja, ik vind het zelf dus nog steeds onnodig. Ik zie nu dat [[:Categorie:Spreekwoord in het Nederlands]] wel bestaat, maar die bevat misschien 0,01 % van alle spreekwoorden in het Nederlands die je er op deze manier in theorie in zou kunnen zetten. Dus ik weet even niet zo goed wat we hiermee aan moeten. Eigenlijk vind ik die cat. voor dit project niet van heel veel meerwaarde, maar ik kan me uiteraard goed voorstellen dat anderen (zoals jij?) hier heel anders tegenaan kijken. :Als je verder de nu nog rode interne links naar spreekwoorden per se op [[maart]] wilt herplaatsen, dan horen ze iig consequent met een kleine letter te beginnen, zoals alles in [[:Categorie:Spreekwoord in het Nederlands]]. Tenzij we de regels over dat laatste – en bijgevolg op dit punt de wikisyntax – ook aanpassen (wat ik trouwens niet eens zo'n slecht idee zou vinden). [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 11 mrt 2024 23:42 (CET) ::Ik reageerde inderdaad op je bewerkingssamenvatting. Echte spreekwoorden zijn minder talrijk dan je nu lijkt te beweren, maar wellicht bedoelde je 1 % (=0,01). Bovendien is de groei in het aantal spreekwoorden veel kleiner dan die in andere soorten woorden, dus het lijkt me voor ons geen onbegonnen werk om daar een bruikbare categorie van te maken. Gelukkig kunnen we daar de tijd voor nemen, want haastige spoed is zelden goed. ::De term "wikisyntax" is voor mij wat verwarrend. Doel je op iets in de MediaWikiprogrammatuur, gaat het je om de instelling dat paginanamen niet automatisch een hoofdletter hebben of om een specifieke afspraak over het weergeven van spreekwoorden? Ik ga nu even uit van het laatste. De reden om spreekwoorden niet als volzinnen te beschrijven is een taalkundige: net als (andere) tussenwerpsels kan een spreekwoord op zichzelf staan, maar het kan ook als onderdeel van een langere volzin worden gebruikt: zie de laatste zin van voorgaande alinea. Ze verschillen in dit opzicht dus duidelijk van de eigennamen. Net als andere moderne woordenboeken beschrijven we spreekwoorden daarom in een schrijfwijze zonder hoofdletter of punt: die kunnen afhankelijk van het gebruik worden toegevoegd. ::Een van de meerwaarden die het beschrijven van een frase op WikiWoordenboek kan hebben is dat we geen keus hoeven te maken onder welk(e) trefwoord(en) zij beschreven wordt: alle woorden uit de frase kunnen via een linkje als ingang dienen. Dit maakt van het toevoegen van frasen wel een secuur werkje: als je het goed wil doen, moet je ook linkjes toevoegen aan de betreffende pagina's. Om die reden is het voor mij niet nodig dat frasen als rode links op lemma's verschijnen. De kans is vrij klein dat een willekeurige bezoeker daar een bruikbaar lemma van maakt. En voor mensen die weten hoe je zo'n lemma maakt, werkt zwart net zo goed als rood. Voor een gewone lezer is zwart echter een stuk prettiger. Ik had en heb er dus geen probleem mee dat je de links vooralsnog in gewone tekst omzette; ik ben het wel met je eens dat we uit een oogpunt van consistentie bij spreekwoorden beter de schrijfwijze zonder hoofdletter en punt kunnen aanhouden. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2024 10:18 (CET) :::OK, je staat dus eigenlijk gewoon achter [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=maart&diff=prev&oldid=4762438 mijn aanpassing]? Het blijft op deze manier eerlijk gezegd wat onduidelijk wat dan wèl precies je probleem is. Uit je vorige bijdrage meende ik op te maken dat je enigszins geïrriteerd(?) was over – voornamelijk – de verwijderde interne rode links. :::Met "wikisyntax" doelde ik inderdaad op het feit dat paginanamen hier niet automatisch een hoofdletter hebben; die instelling past natuurlijk prima in de hele basisbedoeling van dit project als "gewoon" woordenboek, maar heeft als keerzijde dat het zich minder goed leent voor het op een geheel aparte pagina beschrijven van zaken als losse spreekwoorden. Dat is dus ook een reden dat ik in het algemeen niet zo veel toegevoegde waarde daarin zie; eigen secties voor spreekwoorden/uitdrukkingen op de pagina's van het kernwoord vind ik persoonlijk echt veel geschikter. :::En ten slotte bedoelde ik "0,01 %" gewoon zoals ik het schreef (dus ca. 1/10.000), maar misschien vat ik daarbij het begrip spreekwoord net iets ruimer op dan jij. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2024 14:55 (CET) ::::Heel simpel: ik had een opmerking bij de bewerkingssamenvatting. Over de bewerking zelf maak ik me inderdaad niet zo druk: ik zou het zelf anders doen, maar dat is een oud discussiepunt. Het leek me gewoon goed om even op het punt dat je maakte in te gaan, want ik zet af en toe inderdaad spreekwoorden op aparte pagina's. ::::We hebben nu 36 spreekwoorden in de categorie, die een redelijke afbakening vermeldt. Daarvan uitgaande kom ik echt eerder op een totaal van 3.600 dan 360.000 spreekwoorden. Dat laatste zou betekenen dat het Nederlands meer spreekwoorden kent dan er trefwoorden in de dikke Van Dale staan en dan zou ik zelf ook meer twijfel bij het nut van de categorie krijgen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 mrt 2024 22:50 (CET) == Geopolitiek == De term [[geopolitiek]] duidt op een specifiek vakgebied of stroming binnen de politieke wetenschappen. Uiteraard gebruikt dit vakgebied ook termen die binnen andere vakgebieden en stromingen gangbaar zijn, omdat het nu eenmaal algemene politieke termen zijn. Het is in mijn ogen nogal verwarrend om dit soort algemene begrippen zo'n specifiek label te geven. Het suggereert dat hun betekenis vooral moet worden bezien vanuit de opvattingen van dat segment van de politieke wetenschappen en dat is bepaald geen neutrale invalshoek. Ik denk dat dit niet je bedoeling was. Maar wat staat jou wel voor ogen met deze categorie? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2024 09:59 (CET) :Dag, ik begrijp je probleem (?) hier eerlijk gezegd niet helemaal goed. Naar mijn idee is het onderscheid/de onderverdeling "politiek" › "geopolitiek" van dezelfde orde als bijv. "dieren › zoogdieren", "dieren › insecten" e.d. en dat rechtvaardigt hier een subcategorisering, in dit geval in de vorm van contextlabels. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 8 nov 2024 12:48 (CET) :Een typisch voorbeeld waar het label "geopolitiek" beter van toepassing is dan alleen maar "politiek" is het lemma [[staatkunde]]. Op andere pagina's zoals [[partij]] is het contextlabel "politiek" dan weer geschikter. Op die manier is dit dus een zinvol onderscheid. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 8 nov 2024 13:22 (CET) ::Dank voor je voorbeeld, het is bruikbaar om mijn probleem te verhelderen. Bij dieren maken taxonomie en tegenwoordig cladistiek het mogelijk om in principe een ondubbelzinnige indeling te maken: er zijn geen zoogdieren die ook insect zijn en als je bij "dieren" begint, kun je volgens duidelijke criteria via de subcategorieën bij elke soortnaam komen. ::In sociale wetenschappen bestaan zulke indelingen bij mijn weten niet. Het vakgebied geopolitiek kent op zichzelf al verschillende, concurrerende definities. Het overlapt ook duidelijk met andere (potentiële) subcategorieën. Algemene politieke termen kunnen zo om tamelijk willekeurige redenen in die subcategorie belanden, waarbij het voor de lezer onmogelijk is om vooraf te weten of de term die hij zoekt wellicht daar kan worden gevonden. ::Terzijde: "staatkunde" is echt een veel ruimer begrip dan geopolitiek en het is zeker een wetenschap op zichzelf, met een geschiedenis van een paar eeuwen. Sociologie is een sociale wetenschap, maar niet alle sociale wetenschappen worden tot de sociologie gerekend. ::Op het terrein van de sociale wetenschappen bedienen we onze lezers beter met een beperkt aantal vrij ruime categorieën die elkaar daardoor niet zo vaak overlappen. Dat is voor meerdere talen door uiteenlopende gebruikers nog een beetje bij te houden. Ik kom vrijwel dagelijks lemma's tegen waarop voor de hand liggende labels ontbreken en voeg die dan toe. Het huidige oerwoud aan labels is voor mij al nauwelijks te behappen. Zou het niet nuttiger zijn dat we voorrang geven aan het consequenter vullen van de bestaande categorieën? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 nov 2024 23:59 (CET) :::Maar het een hoeft het ander hier toch ook niet uit te sluiten? Zo'n vaag begrip is [[geopolitiek]] ook weer niet; je kunt het hoe dan ook betrekken op staatkunde. Bij evt. twijfel kan er naast geopolitiek desnoods een tweede label worden toegevoegd. :::Verder invullen en herordenen van de bestaande categorieën door middel van de contextlabels is idd. ook hard nodig; op veel plekken ontbreken de juiste labels nog altijd, of soms staan ze juist ergens waar ze net niet horen. De tijd en energie kan wat betreft categorisatie dan ook beter daarheen. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 9 nov 2024 00:43 (CET) ::::Eerlijk gezegd: zo vaag is het begrip in mijn ogen juist wel. Ik heb de indruk dat je de term "geopolitiek" niet betrekt op het bestaande vakgebied, maar meer gebruikt als een soort verzamelterm voor "betekenis die zowel met politiek als aardrijkskunde van doen heeft". Het label is daardoor nu vooral toegevoegd aan betekenissen die veel breder worden gebruikt dan op het terrein van geopolitiek. Labels als {{Tl|aardrijkskunde}}, {{Tl|regering}} of {{Tl|politiek}} doen beter recht aan die betekenissen. ::::We geven immers [[ontsteking]] het label {{Tl|medisch}} en niet {{Tl|tandheelkunde}} of {{Tl|diergeneeskunde}}, ook al vormen ontstekingen een substantieel deel van die wetenschappen. Als we de lezer echt hoorndol willen maken kunnen we natuurlijk alle mogelijke labels aan een betekenis toevoegen, maar dan zouden we ons doel voorbijschieten. Zowel bewerkers als lezers zijn slim genoeg om te beseffen dat meer specifieke vakgebieden soms termen ontlenen aan bredere vakgebieden of zelfs aan het algemeen spraakgebruik. ::::Als we een vakgebied als label toevoegen zou het daarom moeten gaan om woorden die kenmerkend voor dat vakgebied zijn en daarbuiten niet of in een andere betekenis worden gebruikt. Zo'n afgebakend gebied met een eigen begrippenapparaat is de geopolitiek eigenlijk niet. En als wij het weer in een zelfbedachte betekenis gaan gebruiken, maken we het nog verwarrender. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 12 nov 2024 10:36 (CET) :::::Uiteraard ben ik alleen voor het toevoegen van {{Tl|geopolitiek}} waar dat duidelijk van toepassing is. Bij twijfelgevallen mag het wmb gewoon achterwege blijven. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 12 nov 2024 17:26 (CET) == "geen Nederlandse woorden"? == Naar aanleiding van je bewerking op [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd_materiaal&diff=next&oldid=5318820 28 jul 2025 om 01:49] met je samenvatting betreffende geen Nederlandse woorden en volgens jou geen gangbaar Nederlands lijkt, ben ik zo vrij geweest pagina's aan te maken voor de woorden die in de Woordenlijst Nederlandse Taal staan met <nowiki>{{-preval-}}{{wel-GB}}</nowiki>. Dit eveneens voor je daaropvolgende bewerkingen van betreffende pagina. [[Gebruiker:Arx - 83|Arx - 83]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Arx - 83|overleg]]) 30 jul 2025 23:19 (CEST) :Dag, uiteraard moet je dit lezen als "''van zichzelf'' geen Nederlandse woorden". Een tijd geleden was het hier verder nog zo dat van de pagina's over een Engels woord, zeker de helft alleen maar over dat woord in het Nederlands ging, een nogal vreemde situatie. Dat probeerde ik deze keer in feite voor te zijn door de woorden alvast bij de juiste taal te zetten. :Verder: van [[hospitality]] begreep ik sowieso niet goed waarom het onder "Nederlands" stond; ik heb het zelf echt nog nooit in het Nederlands zo ergens gehoord of gelezen. Hoe dan ook bestaat allang [[gastvrijheid]]. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 1 aug 2025 01:43 (CEST) ::Elke taal ontleent weer woorden aan andere talen. Het lijkt me zinnig om de woorden waar nodig ''ook'' op te nemen onder de te voegen woorden in de taal van herkomst. Aan de andere kant lijkt het me geen reden om ze niet als Nederlands woord toe te voegen. En "hospitality" is eigenlijk wel een mooi argument voor die benadering, omdat de Nederlandse betekenis van het woord specifieker is dan de Engelse. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 aug 2025 10:19 (CEST) :::Daar zit op zich iets in, maar ze stonden er nu veelal ''alleen maar'' als Nederlands woord. Dat lijkt mij hoe dan ook niet de bedoeling...? [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 2 aug 2025 16:11 (CEST) == Het nut van labels == Een woord als "klinker" of "medeklinker" wordt op allerlei plaatsen in de taalkunde gebruikt. Contextlabels zijn bedoeld om de lezer te laten weten dat een betekenis vooral in een bepaalde omgeving voorkomt. Een label als "fonetiek" is dan inhoudelijk gewoon te beperkt. Daar komt nog bij dat woorden als "klinker" en "medeklinker" al in het basisonderwijs worden geleerd, aan mensen die in meerderheid nooit met de term "fonetiek" te maken zullen krijgen. De contextlabels versterken daarnaast de neiging om een omschrijving te geven die voor een algemeen publiek moeilijk te begrijpen is, terwijl niet valt te verwachten dat vakmensen WikiWoordenboek gebruiken om woorden uit hun vakgebied op te zoeken. Dit zijn in mijn ogen twee redenen waarom het averechts werkt als we contextlabels te specifiek maken. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 21 aug 2025 21:15 (CEST) :Hallo Marco, tja, dit is wel de standaard werkwijze die bijv. op de Engelstalige versie van dit project steevast wordt aangehouden. Ik vind zelf belangrijk dat de contextlabels van zichzelf correct zijn; er stond eerst ''taalkunde'' maar dat is een veel bredere term. Ik vind eigenlijk dat je in deze gevallen het contextlabel bijna net zo goed ook helemaal zou kunnen weglaten, wat ook (nog steeds) vrij vaak wordt gedaan. Verder dan dit ("fonetiek/fonologie") wilde ik toch al niet gaan. :Het probleem van "te moeilijk begrijpen voor gewone lezers" zie ik zelf eigenlijk ook niet zo; dat is juist precies waarom de interne links er standaard bij staan. (Waarom is er anders bijvoorbeeld ook allang het [[Sjabloon:zoötomie]], wat hier en daar bij de meest alledaagse dierkundige termen staat, en analoog hieraan [[Sjabloon:anatomie]] bij bijv. [[been#Zelfstandig naamwoord]]; dat is dan toch precies hetzelfde?) :Is het een idee om bijv. eens in de kroeg te peilen of anderen vinden dat deze extra labels voldoende bestaansrecht hebben? [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 21 aug 2025 21:25 (CEST) :Zojuist heeft Jochenknabben hetzelfde label [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=labial&diff=prev&oldid=5355464 hier] ook op een andere pagina toegevoegd. Hij ziet er dus iig al blijkbaar geen probleem in.[[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 21 aug 2025 21:42 (CEST) ::Een bredere discussie over labels lijkt me een uitstekend idee. Op dit moment heb ik een paar klussen onder handen die dringender zijn, maar ik kom er over een paar maanden op terug. ::In de tussentijd lijkt het me geen goed idee als we algemeen bekende woorden gaan voorzien van contextlabels die een beperking in het gebruik suggereren die er gewoon niet is. Bij (mede-)klinker is het brede label gewoon correct. Daar komt dan nog bij dat we zo het opzoeken van de betekenis nodeloos ingewikkeld maken. Ik wist al wat een klinker was, voordat ik zelfs maar vermoedde dat er zoiets als fonetiek bestond. De Engelstalige Wiktionary heeft wel meer keuzes gemaakt die wij niet volgen. Nederlandse woordenboeken kiezen bij (mede-)klinker voor het label ''taalkunde'' (Van Dale, Verschueren) of voor het achterwege laten van een label (Koenen, WNT). Het voorbeeld van de dikke Van Dale is temeer van belang omdat daar ook het label "fonetiek" bestaat, maar kennelijk bewust niet voor deze twee termen wordt gebruikt. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 22 aug 2025 13:04 (CEST) :::Maar voor bijv. het contextlabel onder [[voet#Zelfstandig naamwoord|voet]] of [[snuit#Zelfstandig naamwoord|snuit]] gaat in dat geval dus precies hetzelfde op. Sterker, ik vind persoonlijk [[zoötomie]] een nog veel moeilijkere term dan fonetiek. Ik ga het daar zelf nu verder niet weghalen of zo, maar als je echt consequent zou willen zijn... [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 22 aug 2025 13:28 (CEST) ::::In de praktijk gebruiken we "anatomie" en "zoötomie" niet echt als label voor vaktermen, maar als label voor lichaamsdelen, respectievelijk bij mensen en dieren en. Ik zou er daarom zeker voorstander van zijn om die labels anders te noemen en de handvol vaktermen die niet op een lichaamsdeel betrekking hebben over te hevelen naar "medisch" of "diergeneeskunde". [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 aug 2025 12:07 (CEST) == Q == Mijn dank voor je opmerking. Die 'animo' was overigens niet van mij. [[Gebruiker:Jcwf|Jcwf]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jcwf|overleg]]) 22 aug 2025 06:40 (CEST) :Dag, graag gedaan maar ik weet zo niet waar je precies op doelt; mijn vraag in de kroeg gisteren over Latijnse werkwoorden? [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 22 aug 2025 10:35 (CEST) == uitstaan == [[Speciaal:Diff/5397422|Eens]], dat was ook mijn bedoeling maar blijkbaar heb ik niet goed opgelet. Bedankt. [[Gebruiker:Ennomien|Ennomien]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Ennomien|overleg]]) 2 nov 2025 12:29 (CET) == illegibel == U had gelijk dat illegibel niet geschikt is voor WikiWoordenboek bedankt voor de verwijderdiscussie. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 18:52 (CET) :Dag, ik zie dat u in vrij hoog tempo nieuwe pagina's aan het aanmaken bent die echter nog niet volledig zijn volgens het hier gebruikelijke stramien. Misschien kunt u zelf nog even kijken naar de aanvullingen? Overigens zijn de pagina's ook hiermee nog steeds niet volledig, zo ontbreken bijvoorbeeld nog bijna steeds de voorbeeldzinnen. [[gebruiker:Marcel coenders]] wees u net al op hetzelfde. [[Gebruiker:De Wikischim|De Wikischim]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:De Wikischim|overleg]]) 26 jan 2026 20:17 (CET) == Overlegpagina == Vergeef mij de wat ongebruikelijke stap om je vraag op mijn overlegpagina te verwijderen. Uiteraard heb ik deze mogelijkheid ook overwogen, maar ik deed een bewuste poging om het overleg op gang te brengen met een open vraag. Betrokkene ontwikkelt zich tot een behoorlijk productieve bewerker, maar heeft het om redenen die ik nog niet goed kan overzien af en toe heel moeilijk in contacten met andere bewerkers, voor mijn gevoel een kwestie van onhandigheid zonder venijn. En tot nu toe herpakt hij zich elke keer weer. Je hebt het volste recht op je eigen opvatting in deze, maar ik hoop dat je mij op mijn overlegpagina de ruimte wil laten om het op mijn manier te proberen. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 01:11 (CET) g6ulonkgq60ruosfxwmysej5qh5hw2t 0 1219341 5504190 4945513 2026-03-31T04:23:22Z Lotje 8037 beschrijving uitgebreid 5504190 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[Afbeelding:Cochlearia danica Crozon 060416w.jpg|thumb|Een '''Deens lepeldblad'''<br>(''Cochlearia danica'') in bloei]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{IPA-nl-standaard|plaatshouder taxonomie}} {{-syll-}} *Deens le·pel·blad {{-etym-}} * {{coll|nld}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[Deense lepelbladen]]|[[Deens lepelblaadje]]|[[Deense lepelblaadjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{bloemplanten|nld}} {{species|Cochlearia danica}} een [[eenjarige plant]] die behoort tot de [[kruisbloemenfamilie]] ({{species|Brassicaceae}}). De soort komt voor op [[strand]]vlakten, in [[duin]]en en op [[dijken]]. De laatste jaren komt de plant steeds vaker voor langs wegen die in de winter gepekeld worden. De plant komt van nature voor langs de kust van [[West-Europa]] en het [[Oostzee]]gebied {{-hyper-}} * [[lepelblad]], [[kruisbloemenfamilie]], [[zaadplanten]], [[malviden]], [[rosiden]], [[bedektzadigen]], [[landplanten]], [[planten]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{-info-}} {{nlsr|Q159235}} {{wipa|deenslepelblad|{{pn}}}} jz5mywhd0v04qisy59c14mn3rfajvj4 3 1247667 5504007 5503766 2026-03-30T12:32:31Z Latijn 65243 /* Moderator */ Reactie 5504007 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} :…en bedankt voor de vertaling. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2025 10:09 (CET) ==Frans== Dag Jochenknabben, Allereerst bedankt voor de vele en waardevolle bijdragen. Zoals je zelf vermoedelijk al hebt vastgesteld, valt er nog veel te verbeteren aan onze informatie over het Frans. Hoewel je jezelf prima redt, kan ik me voorstellen dat je soms dingen tegenkomt waar de ondersteuning beter kan. Ik kan niet beloven dat we daar altijd een oplossing voor hebben, maar het zou ook jammer zijn als eenvoudige verbeteringen achterwege blijven, omdat we er nooit naar hebben gevraagd. Ook als je nu niet direct suggesties hebt, wilde ik in ieder geval de gelegenheid benutten om eens uitdrukkelijk waardering voor je werk uit te spreken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:49 (CEST) :Dag MarcoSwart, :Bedankt voor je bericht. Ik ben hier toevallig begonnen, een beetje naar mijn eigen gewoonte die ik nam om lijsten te maken van woordenschat in het Frans, maar die werden algauw onleesbare monsters van word-documenten met onnodig veel voetnoten en herhalingen per categorie. Misschien dat er daarom wiki's bestaan... :Een van de kleine suggesties of vragen die ik heb is dat in het geval dat een verbuiging van een woord (bv. {{Q|fraîche|fra}}/{{Q|fraiche|fra}} (vrouwelijk enkelvoud van {{Q|frais|fra}}) of {{Q|exagèrais|fra}}/{{Q|exagérais|fra}} (conditionnel présent van {{Q|exagérer|fra}}) of {{Q|oignons|fra}}/{{Q|ognons|fra}}) meerdere spellingswijzen heeft volgens "fr-orth-rect" of "fr-orth-trad" ik dit niet consistent kan aanbrengen volgens "mijn" manier. Ik heb immers vrij consequent bij woorden deze informatie na het vetgedrukte woord gezet (zie bv. {{Q|mûr|fra}}) en naar mijn weten is er geen manier om dit toe te passen voor de vervoegingen in het voorbeeld. Deze informatie kan ik ook in {{Tl|-note-}} zetten, maar ik zou graag een consequente opmaak willen toepassen hiervoor. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 10:41 (CEST) ::Voor de verwijzing naar de alternatieve vorm(en) gebruiken we de sectie '''''Schrijfwijzen'''''; wanneer aanwezig is dat de eerste sectie na de betekenisomschrijvingen. Als ik je vraag goed begrijp, gaat het erom hoe het beste kan worden aangegeven dat het trefwoord zelf tot een specifieke spellingcategorie hoort. ::Uitgangspunt op WikiWoordenboek is dat het trefwoord alleen in de officiële spelling uitgebreid wordt weergegeven, terwijl de andere (verouderde of minder gangbare) schrijfwijzen voor zover mogelijk met een beknopt lemma naar dat trefwoord verwijzen. Daarvoor hebben we het sjabloon {{Tl|oudeschrijfwijze}}. Bij mijn weten verkeert het Frans in de situatie dat de traditionele en de verbeterde spelling allebei gangbaar en officieel toegestaan zijn. Dat maakt het wat ingewikkelder. ::Typografisch is de regel met het vetgedrukte trefwoord ook bedoeld als een kopje. Dat komt minder uit de verf als we er weer tekst aan toevoegen. Bij mijn weten geven we eigenlijk nooit informatie over spellingvariatie op die regel. Dat helpt ook om sjablonen voor verbogen vormen niet overmatig ingewikkeld te maken. ::Het lijkt mij het doeltreffendst om de informatie onder '''''Schrijfwijzen''''' voor de betreffende Franse woorden op een variant-1990 als ''ognons'' uit te breiden tot: ::*"ognons" is geschreven in de {{WikiW|Franse orthografische rectificaties van 1990|''verbeterde spelling van 1990''}}, de ''traditionele spelling'' is: [[oignons]] ::en op een traditionele variant als ''oignons'' tot: ::*"oignons" is geschreven in de ''traditionele spelling'', de {{WikiW|Franse orthografische rectificaties van 1990|''verbeterde spelling van 1990''}} is: [[ognons]] ::Hier kunnen we twee sjablonen maken die meteen ook voor het kopje zorgen, met namen als {{Tl|-writ-fra-r}} en {{Tl|-writ-fra-t}} respectievelijk. Deze oplossing zou zowel voor trefwoorden als flexievormen een uniforme oplossing bieden. We kunnen deze pagina's dan meteen ook categoriseren per schrijfwijze, net zoals we dat met Nederlandse spellingvarianten doen. Lijkt deze oplossing je wat? Zijn er punten die beter kunnen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 22:14 (CEST) :::Ik vind dit een goede en eenvoudige oplossing. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 09:53 (CEST) ::::Ik ga dit voorstel in de Kroeg melden en meteen de sjablonen en categorieën aanmaken. Aan de hand van de reacties kunnen daarna bestaande lemma's worden aangepast. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 12:55 (CEST) :::::De nieuwe sjablonen waren door het ingebouwde kopje weer minder geschikt voor pagina's met vervoegingen en in lopende tekst. Daarom heb ik ook {{Tl|fr-orth}} aangemaakt: {{Tl|fr-orth|t}} als vervanging van het vroegere "fr-orth-trad" en {{Tl|fr-orth|r}} als vervanging van het vroegere "fr-orth-rect". De bestaande pagina's zijn inmiddels aangepast. Hiermee beschouw ik deze klus als afgerond. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:26 (CET) ::::::Dat is goed. Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) == Moderator == Kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:47 (CEST) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:54 (CEST) ::Maar als Jochenknabben echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:57 (CEST) :::Kies je voor, Jochenknabben [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:32 (CEST) == Vraag == Jochenknabben, op 2 maart werd er een echte babyfoto geplaatst op Baby Globe, heb je deze weer teruggedraaid [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:58 (CEST) hh6zwrhnqr1p08k6o9y87rymzlyzxe9 5504088 5504007 2026-03-30T16:27:10Z Latijn 65243 /* Moderator */ Reactie 5504088 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} :…en bedankt voor de vertaling. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2025 10:09 (CET) ==Frans== Dag Jochenknabben, Allereerst bedankt voor de vele en waardevolle bijdragen. Zoals je zelf vermoedelijk al hebt vastgesteld, valt er nog veel te verbeteren aan onze informatie over het Frans. Hoewel je jezelf prima redt, kan ik me voorstellen dat je soms dingen tegenkomt waar de ondersteuning beter kan. Ik kan niet beloven dat we daar altijd een oplossing voor hebben, maar het zou ook jammer zijn als eenvoudige verbeteringen achterwege blijven, omdat we er nooit naar hebben gevraagd. Ook als je nu niet direct suggesties hebt, wilde ik in ieder geval de gelegenheid benutten om eens uitdrukkelijk waardering voor je werk uit te spreken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:49 (CEST) :Dag MarcoSwart, :Bedankt voor je bericht. Ik ben hier toevallig begonnen, een beetje naar mijn eigen gewoonte die ik nam om lijsten te maken van woordenschat in het Frans, maar die werden algauw onleesbare monsters van word-documenten met onnodig veel voetnoten en herhalingen per categorie. Misschien dat er daarom wiki's bestaan... :Een van de kleine suggesties of vragen die ik heb is dat in het geval dat een verbuiging van een woord (bv. {{Q|fraîche|fra}}/{{Q|fraiche|fra}} (vrouwelijk enkelvoud van {{Q|frais|fra}}) of {{Q|exagèrais|fra}}/{{Q|exagérais|fra}} (conditionnel présent van {{Q|exagérer|fra}}) of {{Q|oignons|fra}}/{{Q|ognons|fra}}) meerdere spellingswijzen heeft volgens "fr-orth-rect" of "fr-orth-trad" ik dit niet consistent kan aanbrengen volgens "mijn" manier. Ik heb immers vrij consequent bij woorden deze informatie na het vetgedrukte woord gezet (zie bv. {{Q|mûr|fra}}) en naar mijn weten is er geen manier om dit toe te passen voor de vervoegingen in het voorbeeld. Deze informatie kan ik ook in {{Tl|-note-}} zetten, maar ik zou graag een consequente opmaak willen toepassen hiervoor. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 10:41 (CEST) ::Voor de verwijzing naar de alternatieve vorm(en) gebruiken we de sectie '''''Schrijfwijzen'''''; wanneer aanwezig is dat de eerste sectie na de betekenisomschrijvingen. Als ik je vraag goed begrijp, gaat het erom hoe het beste kan worden aangegeven dat het trefwoord zelf tot een specifieke spellingcategorie hoort. ::Uitgangspunt op WikiWoordenboek is dat het trefwoord alleen in de officiële spelling uitgebreid wordt weergegeven, terwijl de andere (verouderde of minder gangbare) schrijfwijzen voor zover mogelijk met een beknopt lemma naar dat trefwoord verwijzen. Daarvoor hebben we het sjabloon {{Tl|oudeschrijfwijze}}. Bij mijn weten verkeert het Frans in de situatie dat de traditionele en de verbeterde spelling allebei gangbaar en officieel toegestaan zijn. Dat maakt het wat ingewikkelder. ::Typografisch is de regel met het vetgedrukte trefwoord ook bedoeld als een kopje. Dat komt minder uit de verf als we er weer tekst aan toevoegen. Bij mijn weten geven we eigenlijk nooit informatie over spellingvariatie op die regel. Dat helpt ook om sjablonen voor verbogen vormen niet overmatig ingewikkeld te maken. ::Het lijkt mij het doeltreffendst om de informatie onder '''''Schrijfwijzen''''' voor de betreffende Franse woorden op een variant-1990 als ''ognons'' uit te breiden tot: ::*"ognons" is geschreven in de {{WikiW|Franse orthografische rectificaties van 1990|''verbeterde spelling van 1990''}}, de ''traditionele spelling'' is: [[oignons]] ::en op een traditionele variant als ''oignons'' tot: ::*"oignons" is geschreven in de ''traditionele spelling'', de {{WikiW|Franse orthografische rectificaties van 1990|''verbeterde spelling van 1990''}} is: [[ognons]] ::Hier kunnen we twee sjablonen maken die meteen ook voor het kopje zorgen, met namen als {{Tl|-writ-fra-r}} en {{Tl|-writ-fra-t}} respectievelijk. Deze oplossing zou zowel voor trefwoorden als flexievormen een uniforme oplossing bieden. We kunnen deze pagina's dan meteen ook categoriseren per schrijfwijze, net zoals we dat met Nederlandse spellingvarianten doen. Lijkt deze oplossing je wat? Zijn er punten die beter kunnen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 22:14 (CEST) :::Ik vind dit een goede en eenvoudige oplossing. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 09:53 (CEST) ::::Ik ga dit voorstel in de Kroeg melden en meteen de sjablonen en categorieën aanmaken. Aan de hand van de reacties kunnen daarna bestaande lemma's worden aangepast. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 12:55 (CEST) :::::De nieuwe sjablonen waren door het ingebouwde kopje weer minder geschikt voor pagina's met vervoegingen en in lopende tekst. Daarom heb ik ook {{Tl|fr-orth}} aangemaakt: {{Tl|fr-orth|t}} als vervanging van het vroegere "fr-orth-trad" en {{Tl|fr-orth|r}} als vervanging van het vroegere "fr-orth-rect". De bestaande pagina's zijn inmiddels aangepast. Hiermee beschouw ik deze klus als afgerond. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:26 (CET) ::::::Dat is goed. Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) == Moderator == Kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:47 (CEST) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:54 (CEST) ::Maar als Jochenknabben echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:57 (CEST) :::Kies je voor, Jochenknabben [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:32 (CEST) ::::Je moet reageren op deze vraag [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:27 (CEST) == Vraag == Jochenknabben, op 2 maart werd er een echte babyfoto geplaatst op Baby Globe, heb je deze weer teruggedraaid [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:58 (CEST) 9b1k1n9lhghkwbvil32fpudr4kff56e 5504175 5504088 2026-03-30T19:54:46Z Latijn 65243 /* Moderator */ Reactie 5504175 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} :…en bedankt voor de vertaling. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2025 10:09 (CET) ==Frans== Dag Jochenknabben, Allereerst bedankt voor de vele en waardevolle bijdragen. Zoals je zelf vermoedelijk al hebt vastgesteld, valt er nog veel te verbeteren aan onze informatie over het Frans. Hoewel je jezelf prima redt, kan ik me voorstellen dat je soms dingen tegenkomt waar de ondersteuning beter kan. Ik kan niet beloven dat we daar altijd een oplossing voor hebben, maar het zou ook jammer zijn als eenvoudige verbeteringen achterwege blijven, omdat we er nooit naar hebben gevraagd. Ook als je nu niet direct suggesties hebt, wilde ik in ieder geval de gelegenheid benutten om eens uitdrukkelijk waardering voor je werk uit te spreken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:49 (CEST) :Dag MarcoSwart, :Bedankt voor je bericht. Ik ben hier toevallig begonnen, een beetje naar mijn eigen gewoonte die ik nam om lijsten te maken van woordenschat in het Frans, maar die werden algauw onleesbare monsters van word-documenten met onnodig veel voetnoten en herhalingen per categorie. Misschien dat er daarom wiki's bestaan... :Een van de kleine suggesties of vragen die ik heb is dat in het geval dat een verbuiging van een woord (bv. {{Q|fraîche|fra}}/{{Q|fraiche|fra}} (vrouwelijk enkelvoud van {{Q|frais|fra}}) of {{Q|exagèrais|fra}}/{{Q|exagérais|fra}} (conditionnel présent van {{Q|exagérer|fra}}) of {{Q|oignons|fra}}/{{Q|ognons|fra}}) meerdere spellingswijzen heeft volgens "fr-orth-rect" of "fr-orth-trad" ik dit niet consistent kan aanbrengen volgens "mijn" manier. Ik heb immers vrij consequent bij woorden deze informatie na het vetgedrukte woord gezet (zie bv. {{Q|mûr|fra}}) en naar mijn weten is er geen manier om dit toe te passen voor de vervoegingen in het voorbeeld. Deze informatie kan ik ook in {{Tl|-note-}} zetten, maar ik zou graag een consequente opmaak willen toepassen hiervoor. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 10:41 (CEST) ::Voor de verwijzing naar de alternatieve vorm(en) gebruiken we de sectie '''''Schrijfwijzen'''''; wanneer aanwezig is dat de eerste sectie na de betekenisomschrijvingen. Als ik je vraag goed begrijp, gaat het erom hoe het beste kan worden aangegeven dat het trefwoord zelf tot een specifieke spellingcategorie hoort. ::Uitgangspunt op WikiWoordenboek is dat het trefwoord alleen in de officiële spelling uitgebreid wordt weergegeven, terwijl de andere (verouderde of minder gangbare) schrijfwijzen voor zover mogelijk met een beknopt lemma naar dat trefwoord verwijzen. Daarvoor hebben we het sjabloon {{Tl|oudeschrijfwijze}}. Bij mijn weten verkeert het Frans in de situatie dat de traditionele en de verbeterde spelling allebei gangbaar en officieel toegestaan zijn. Dat maakt het wat ingewikkelder. ::Typografisch is de regel met het vetgedrukte trefwoord ook bedoeld als een kopje. Dat komt minder uit de verf als we er weer tekst aan toevoegen. Bij mijn weten geven we eigenlijk nooit informatie over spellingvariatie op die regel. Dat helpt ook om sjablonen voor verbogen vormen niet overmatig ingewikkeld te maken. ::Het lijkt mij het doeltreffendst om de informatie onder '''''Schrijfwijzen''''' voor de betreffende Franse woorden op een variant-1990 als ''ognons'' uit te breiden tot: ::*"ognons" is geschreven in de {{WikiW|Franse orthografische rectificaties van 1990|''verbeterde spelling van 1990''}}, de ''traditionele spelling'' is: [[oignons]] ::en op een traditionele variant als ''oignons'' tot: ::*"oignons" is geschreven in de ''traditionele spelling'', de {{WikiW|Franse orthografische rectificaties van 1990|''verbeterde spelling van 1990''}} is: [[ognons]] ::Hier kunnen we twee sjablonen maken die meteen ook voor het kopje zorgen, met namen als {{Tl|-writ-fra-r}} en {{Tl|-writ-fra-t}} respectievelijk. Deze oplossing zou zowel voor trefwoorden als flexievormen een uniforme oplossing bieden. We kunnen deze pagina's dan meteen ook categoriseren per schrijfwijze, net zoals we dat met Nederlandse spellingvarianten doen. Lijkt deze oplossing je wat? Zijn er punten die beter kunnen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 22:14 (CEST) :::Ik vind dit een goede en eenvoudige oplossing. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 09:53 (CEST) ::::Ik ga dit voorstel in de Kroeg melden en meteen de sjablonen en categorieën aanmaken. Aan de hand van de reacties kunnen daarna bestaande lemma's worden aangepast. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 12:55 (CEST) :::::De nieuwe sjablonen waren door het ingebouwde kopje weer minder geschikt voor pagina's met vervoegingen en in lopende tekst. Daarom heb ik ook {{Tl|fr-orth}} aangemaakt: {{Tl|fr-orth|t}} als vervanging van het vroegere "fr-orth-trad" en {{Tl|fr-orth|r}} als vervanging van het vroegere "fr-orth-rect". De bestaande pagina's zijn inmiddels aangepast. Hiermee beschouw ik deze klus als afgerond. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:26 (CET) ::::::Dat is goed. Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) == Moderator == Kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:47 (CEST) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:54 (CEST) ::Maar als Jochenknabben echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:57 (CEST) :::Kies je voor, Jochenknabben [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:32 (CEST) ::::Je moet reageren op deze vraag [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:27 (CEST) :::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:54 (CEST) == Vraag == Jochenknabben, op 2 maart werd er een echte babyfoto geplaatst op Baby Globe, heb je deze weer teruggedraaid [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:58 (CEST) sck8mqdn78jm128l5usuk9kkouijzg1 5504212 5504175 2026-03-31T08:38:36Z Latijn 65243 /* Moderator */ Reactie 5504212 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} :…en bedankt voor de vertaling. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 6 feb 2025 10:09 (CET) ==Frans== Dag Jochenknabben, Allereerst bedankt voor de vele en waardevolle bijdragen. Zoals je zelf vermoedelijk al hebt vastgesteld, valt er nog veel te verbeteren aan onze informatie over het Frans. Hoewel je jezelf prima redt, kan ik me voorstellen dat je soms dingen tegenkomt waar de ondersteuning beter kan. Ik kan niet beloven dat we daar altijd een oplossing voor hebben, maar het zou ook jammer zijn als eenvoudige verbeteringen achterwege blijven, omdat we er nooit naar hebben gevraagd. Ook als je nu niet direct suggesties hebt, wilde ik in ieder geval de gelegenheid benutten om eens uitdrukkelijk waardering voor je werk uit te spreken. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 25 sep 2025 20:49 (CEST) :Dag MarcoSwart, :Bedankt voor je bericht. Ik ben hier toevallig begonnen, een beetje naar mijn eigen gewoonte die ik nam om lijsten te maken van woordenschat in het Frans, maar die werden algauw onleesbare monsters van word-documenten met onnodig veel voetnoten en herhalingen per categorie. Misschien dat er daarom wiki's bestaan... :Een van de kleine suggesties of vragen die ik heb is dat in het geval dat een verbuiging van een woord (bv. {{Q|fraîche|fra}}/{{Q|fraiche|fra}} (vrouwelijk enkelvoud van {{Q|frais|fra}}) of {{Q|exagèrais|fra}}/{{Q|exagérais|fra}} (conditionnel présent van {{Q|exagérer|fra}}) of {{Q|oignons|fra}}/{{Q|ognons|fra}}) meerdere spellingswijzen heeft volgens "fr-orth-rect" of "fr-orth-trad" ik dit niet consistent kan aanbrengen volgens "mijn" manier. Ik heb immers vrij consequent bij woorden deze informatie na het vetgedrukte woord gezet (zie bv. {{Q|mûr|fra}}) en naar mijn weten is er geen manier om dit toe te passen voor de vervoegingen in het voorbeeld. Deze informatie kan ik ook in {{Tl|-note-}} zetten, maar ik zou graag een consequente opmaak willen toepassen hiervoor. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 10:41 (CEST) ::Voor de verwijzing naar de alternatieve vorm(en) gebruiken we de sectie '''''Schrijfwijzen'''''; wanneer aanwezig is dat de eerste sectie na de betekenisomschrijvingen. Als ik je vraag goed begrijp, gaat het erom hoe het beste kan worden aangegeven dat het trefwoord zelf tot een specifieke spellingcategorie hoort. ::Uitgangspunt op WikiWoordenboek is dat het trefwoord alleen in de officiële spelling uitgebreid wordt weergegeven, terwijl de andere (verouderde of minder gangbare) schrijfwijzen voor zover mogelijk met een beknopt lemma naar dat trefwoord verwijzen. Daarvoor hebben we het sjabloon {{Tl|oudeschrijfwijze}}. Bij mijn weten verkeert het Frans in de situatie dat de traditionele en de verbeterde spelling allebei gangbaar en officieel toegestaan zijn. Dat maakt het wat ingewikkelder. ::Typografisch is de regel met het vetgedrukte trefwoord ook bedoeld als een kopje. Dat komt minder uit de verf als we er weer tekst aan toevoegen. Bij mijn weten geven we eigenlijk nooit informatie over spellingvariatie op die regel. Dat helpt ook om sjablonen voor verbogen vormen niet overmatig ingewikkeld te maken. ::Het lijkt mij het doeltreffendst om de informatie onder '''''Schrijfwijzen''''' voor de betreffende Franse woorden op een variant-1990 als ''ognons'' uit te breiden tot: ::*"ognons" is geschreven in de {{WikiW|Franse orthografische rectificaties van 1990|''verbeterde spelling van 1990''}}, de ''traditionele spelling'' is: [[oignons]] ::en op een traditionele variant als ''oignons'' tot: ::*"oignons" is geschreven in de ''traditionele spelling'', de {{WikiW|Franse orthografische rectificaties van 1990|''verbeterde spelling van 1990''}} is: [[ognons]] ::Hier kunnen we twee sjablonen maken die meteen ook voor het kopje zorgen, met namen als {{Tl|-writ-fra-r}} en {{Tl|-writ-fra-t}} respectievelijk. Deze oplossing zou zowel voor trefwoorden als flexievormen een uniforme oplossing bieden. We kunnen deze pagina's dan meteen ook categoriseren per schrijfwijze, net zoals we dat met Nederlandse spellingvarianten doen. Lijkt deze oplossing je wat? Zijn er punten die beter kunnen? [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 26 sep 2025 22:14 (CEST) :::Ik vind dit een goede en eenvoudige oplossing. [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 09:53 (CEST) ::::Ik ga dit voorstel in de Kroeg melden en meteen de sjablonen en categorieën aanmaken. Aan de hand van de reacties kunnen daarna bestaande lemma's worden aangepast. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 28 sep 2025 12:55 (CEST) :::::De nieuwe sjablonen waren door het ingebouwde kopje weer minder geschikt voor pagina's met vervoegingen en in lopende tekst. Daarom heb ik ook {{Tl|fr-orth}} aangemaakt: {{Tl|fr-orth|t}} als vervanging van het vroegere "fr-orth-trad" en {{Tl|fr-orth|r}} als vervanging van het vroegere "fr-orth-rect". De bestaande pagina's zijn inmiddels aangepast. Hiermee beschouw ik deze klus als afgerond. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:26 (CET) ::::::Dat is goed. Bedankt! [[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Jochenknabben|overleg]]) 20 nov 2025 14:32 (CET) == Moderator == Kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:47 (CEST) :Meer informatie is te zien op de pagina [[WikiWoordenboek:Aanmelding moderators]] [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:54 (CEST) ::Maar als Jochenknabben echt zou kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:57 (CEST) :::Kies je voor, Jochenknabben [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:32 (CEST) ::::Je moet reageren op deze vraag [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 18:27 (CEST) :::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:54 (CEST) ::::::Kies je voor of niet? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:38 (CEST) == Vraag == Jochenknabben, op 2 maart werd er een echte babyfoto geplaatst op Baby Globe, heb je deze weer teruggedraaid [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 29 mrt 2026 18:58 (CEST) lp24p1e60hg5uvccaiz404wdr5x3mqn 0 1298326 5504057 5437245 2026-03-30T15:28:26Z Jochenknabben 60937 Fr: + sound 5504057 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-Lyokoï-hospitaliser.wav|{{pn}} (Lyon)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɔs.pi.ta.li.se/|fra}} {{-frstam-|{{pn}}|[[hospitalisais]]|[[hospitalisé]]||||eerste groep}} {{-verb-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|fra}} [[hospitaliseren]] {{-drv-}} *{{Q|hospitalisation|fra}} {{-rel-}} *{{Q|hôpital|fra}} jwpvpg70h7b2ua6vxa89vtjfmdkpds3 0 1301620 5504296 5416919 2026-03-31T11:42:35Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504296 wikitext text/x-wiki [[File:Flaschenstäubling.jpg|thumb|200px|'''{{pn}}''' perlée<br/>''parel'''stuifzwam''''']] {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/vɛs.də.lu/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *{{coll|fra|vesse de loup}}, letterlijk "wolfsscheet" {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|la {{pn}}|vesses-de-loup|les vesses-de-loup}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{f}} #{{steeltjeszwammen|nld}} vernaculaire naam voor verschillende soorten [[stuifzwam]]men die hun sporen als een wolk achterlaten {{-drv-}} *{{Q|vesse-de-loup perlée|fra}} q0za6cusg8eduwvs3aontl3i8xd7hsd 0 1303364 5504208 5366357 2026-03-31T07:33:14Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504208 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/pʁe.fe.ʁe/|fra}} {{-frstam-|{{pn}}|[[préférais]]|[[préféré]]||||eerste groep}} {{-verb-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|fra}} [[prefereren]]; de voorkeur geven aan {{-drv-}} *{{Q|préférable|fra|adjc}} e5zi1gdpk82nlcod14ty6x3jy84cern 0 1310914 5504206 5398808 2026-03-31T07:30:48Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504206 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/li.be.ʁa.sjɔ̃/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|[[{{pn}}]]|la {{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{f}} #[[bevrijding]] {{-rel-}} *{{Q|libérer|fra|ww}} tu0jh5uuzjoo9xvpeozzzn7wmmwhdkt 3 1312541 5504005 5503999 2026-03-30T12:27:05Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504005 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == We hebben een baby gekregen: Baby Globe == Dit onderwerp wordt per 31 maart verwijderd. [[File:Work-in-progress_animation_of_the_Wikipedia_25_birthday_mascot_scrolling_on_a_phone.gif|100px]] [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:40 (CET) :Zo ziet hij eruit [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) ::Ik vindt hem heel lief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:08 (CET) :::Ik was nu met hem naar Ballorig geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:25 (CET) ::::En ik heb ook Sluban voor hem gekocht [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 21:31 (CET) :::::Ik was nu met hem naar Capelle geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:48 (CET) ::::::Ik was nu met hem naar een lunchroom geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::::::En de laatste: ik ging ontbijten met hem [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:39 (CEST) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kies tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) cbl7qx5h9o06fmcby9tk4gqgu39a7e3 5504089 5504005 2026-03-30T16:28:35Z Latijn 65243 5504089 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == We hebben een baby gekregen: Baby Globe == Dit onderwerp wordt per 31 maart verwijderd. [[File:Work-in-progress_animation_of_the_Wikipedia_25_birthday_mascot_scrolling_on_a_phone.gif|100px]] [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:40 (CET) :Zo ziet hij eruit [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) ::Ik vindt hem heel lief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:08 (CET) :::Ik was nu met hem naar Ballorig geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:25 (CET) ::::En ik heb ook Sluban voor hem gekocht [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 21:31 (CET) :::::Ik was nu met hem naar Capelle geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:48 (CET) ::::::Ik was nu met hem naar een lunchroom geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::::::En de laatste: ik ging ontbijten met hem [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:39 (CEST) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) ox42krjshbmkgn493k9xdq0cw30mh8f 5504157 5504089 2026-03-30T19:39:41Z Marcel coenders 15906 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504157 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == We hebben een baby gekregen: Baby Globe == Dit onderwerp wordt per 31 maart verwijderd. [[File:Work-in-progress_animation_of_the_Wikipedia_25_birthday_mascot_scrolling_on_a_phone.gif|100px]] [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:40 (CET) :Zo ziet hij eruit [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) ::Ik vindt hem heel lief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:08 (CET) :::Ik was nu met hem naar Ballorig geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:25 (CET) ::::En ik heb ook Sluban voor hem gekocht [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 21:31 (CET) :::::Ik was nu met hem naar Capelle geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:48 (CET) ::::::Ik was nu met hem naar een lunchroom geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::::::En de laatste: ik ging ontbijten met hem [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:39 (CEST) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) rpqbgocflvmsaccbia3io00y2qjm53j 5504171 5504157 2026-03-30T19:49:03Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504171 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == We hebben een baby gekregen: Baby Globe == Dit onderwerp wordt per 31 maart verwijderd. [[File:Work-in-progress_animation_of_the_Wikipedia_25_birthday_mascot_scrolling_on_a_phone.gif|100px]] [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:40 (CET) :Zo ziet hij eruit [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) ::Ik vindt hem heel lief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:08 (CET) :::Ik was nu met hem naar Ballorig geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:25 (CET) ::::En ik heb ook Sluban voor hem gekocht [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 21:31 (CET) :::::Ik was nu met hem naar Capelle geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:48 (CET) ::::::Ik was nu met hem naar een lunchroom geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::::::En de laatste: ik ging ontbijten met hem [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:39 (CEST) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) mjr8644c57npg23hj4z4orakl9txke0 5504181 5504171 2026-03-30T20:41:05Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504181 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == We hebben een baby gekregen: Baby Globe == Dit onderwerp wordt per 31 maart verwijderd. [[File:Work-in-progress_animation_of_the_Wikipedia_25_birthday_mascot_scrolling_on_a_phone.gif|100px]] [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:40 (CET) :Zo ziet hij eruit [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) ::Ik vindt hem heel lief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:08 (CET) :::Ik was nu met hem naar Ballorig geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:25 (CET) ::::En ik heb ook Sluban voor hem gekocht [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 21:31 (CET) :::::Ik was nu met hem naar Capelle geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:48 (CET) ::::::Ik was nu met hem naar een lunchroom geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::::::En de laatste: ik ging ontbijten met hem [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:39 (CEST) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::Ik word dus geen moderator [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 22:41 (CEST) 1gs9wizwaczgwy7ah9j9du5680jqubw 5504186 5504181 2026-03-30T20:58:40Z Latijn 65243 Versie [[Special:Diff/5504181|5504181]] van [[Special:Contributions/Latijn|Latijn]] ([[User talk:Latijn|overleg]]) ongedaan gemaakt 5504186 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == We hebben een baby gekregen: Baby Globe == Dit onderwerp wordt per 31 maart verwijderd. [[File:Work-in-progress_animation_of_the_Wikipedia_25_birthday_mascot_scrolling_on_a_phone.gif|100px]] [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:40 (CET) :Zo ziet hij eruit [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) ::Ik vindt hem heel lief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:08 (CET) :::Ik was nu met hem naar Ballorig geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:25 (CET) ::::En ik heb ook Sluban voor hem gekocht [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 21:31 (CET) :::::Ik was nu met hem naar Capelle geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:48 (CET) ::::::Ik was nu met hem naar een lunchroom geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::::::En de laatste: ik ging ontbijten met hem [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:39 (CEST) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) mjr8644c57npg23hj4z4orakl9txke0 5504189 5504186 2026-03-30T21:25:38Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504189 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == We hebben een baby gekregen: Baby Globe == Dit onderwerp wordt per 31 maart verwijderd. [[File:Work-in-progress_animation_of_the_Wikipedia_25_birthday_mascot_scrolling_on_a_phone.gif|100px]] [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:40 (CET) :Zo ziet hij eruit [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) ::Ik vindt hem heel lief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:08 (CET) :::Ik was nu met hem naar Ballorig geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:25 (CET) ::::En ik heb ook Sluban voor hem gekocht [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 21:31 (CET) :::::Ik was nu met hem naar Capelle geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:48 (CET) ::::::Ik was nu met hem naar een lunchroom geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::::::En de laatste: ik ging ontbijten met hem [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:39 (CEST) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::Moderatorschap met pensioen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 23:25 (CEST) d21uqszn579w3omr255l6t8vh11f592 5504213 5504189 2026-03-31T08:49:06Z Latijn 65243 5504213 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == We hebben een baby gekregen: Baby Globe == Dit onderwerp wordt per 31 maart verwijderd. [[File:Work-in-progress_animation_of_the_Wikipedia_25_birthday_mascot_scrolling_on_a_phone.gif|100px]] [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:40 (CET) :Zo ziet hij eruit [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 mrt 2026 11:42 (CET) ::Ik vindt hem heel lief [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 mrt 2026 20:08 (CET) :::Ik was nu met hem naar Ballorig geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:25 (CET) ::::En ik heb ook Sluban voor hem gekocht [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 21:31 (CET) :::::Ik was nu met hem naar Capelle geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 16 mrt 2026 19:48 (CET) ::::::Ik was nu met hem naar een lunchroom geweest [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:47 (CET) :::::::En de laatste: ik ging ontbijten met hem [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 11:39 (CEST) :En hij wordt over enkele ogenblikken verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:49 (CEST) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::Moderatorschap met pensioen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 23:25 (CEST) 039sa6hldg2f8y1lqkr4ynm61c32aye 5504214 5504213 2026-03-31T08:50:06Z Latijn 65243 5504214 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::Moderatorschap met pensioen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 23:25 (CEST) 83tbr5l3jhb0tfq8yh0hka69r24fwu1 5504215 5504214 2026-03-31T08:51:10Z Latijn 65243 5504215 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) 1gxbb48xpqpdi99pv9jok6p2et6p0mq 5504216 5504215 2026-03-31T08:52:33Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504216 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) bwi6reuv772t7h5j5a18a3bjhpys2np 5504219 5504216 2026-03-31T08:54:47Z Latijn 65243 5504219 wikitext text/x-wiki == Archief == * [[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn/archief/2025|archlef 1]] == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) 01fzqc3q20vezd0mgz86petxdchecsy 5504220 5504219 2026-03-31T08:55:05Z Latijn 65243 5504220 wikitext text/x-wiki === Archief === * [[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn/archief/2025|archlef 1]] == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) kyw8uf0wjrxwbdmo85hhizd8mvk1gsw 5504221 5504220 2026-03-31T08:55:14Z Latijn 65243 5504221 wikitext text/x-wiki === Archief === * [[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn/archief/2025|archief 1]] == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) kxh15fdzb327cgca1w9h3g1dz4d3dgs 5504222 5504221 2026-03-31T08:56:51Z Latijn 65243 5504222 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) 5s67xk6ncfr3sgl628infib82nuuszd 5504223 5504222 2026-03-31T08:57:05Z Latijn 65243 5504223 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/archief/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) 3g48q6jhy33jpmitn3c4e8wcv4wgwqy 5504248 5504223 2026-03-31T10:19:42Z MarcoSwart 9001 /* Ik word een moderator */ er kunnen ook bewerkers zijn die geen stem willen uitbrengen 5504248 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/archief/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) :Je hebt de mogelijkheid om je aan te melden en zo na te gaan of er voldoende vertrouwen is dat je het werk van moderator kan verrichten. De gebruikelijke gang van zaken is dat je in De Kroeg aangeeft dat je je hebt aangemeld en daarna rustig afwacht wat de reacties zijn. Het is vreemd om een beperkt aantal gebruikers te vragen om een stem uit te brengen. Voor de gebruikers die ervoor kiezen geen stem uit te brengen kan het ergerlijk zijn als je dat bij herhaling doet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:19 (CEST) hsjyqp1831d01k2qhzzdj0z6pp4iheo 5504268 5504248 2026-03-31T10:57:04Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504268 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/archief/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) :Je hebt de mogelijkheid om je aan te melden en zo na te gaan of er voldoende vertrouwen is dat je het werk van moderator kan verrichten. De gebruikelijke gang van zaken is dat je in De Kroeg aangeeft dat je je hebt aangemeld en daarna rustig afwacht wat de reacties zijn. Het is vreemd om een beperkt aantal gebruikers te vragen om een stem uit te brengen. Voor de gebruikers die ervoor kiezen geen stem uit te brengen kan het ergerlijk zijn als je dat bij herhaling doet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:19 (CEST) ::Wat is voor en wat is tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:57 (CEST) 085esc38v25dn78ulbpwcgr52eljsbv 5504270 5504268 2026-03-31T10:58:16Z Vuurregenboog 66174 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504270 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/archief/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) :Je hebt de mogelijkheid om je aan te melden en zo na te gaan of er voldoende vertrouwen is dat je het werk van moderator kan verrichten. De gebruikelijke gang van zaken is dat je in De Kroeg aangeeft dat je je hebt aangemeld en daarna rustig afwacht wat de reacties zijn. Het is vreemd om een beperkt aantal gebruikers te vragen om een stem uit te brengen. Voor de gebruikers die ervoor kiezen geen stem uit te brengen kan het ergerlijk zijn als je dat bij herhaling doet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:19 (CEST) ::Wat is voor en wat is tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:57 (CEST) :::Voor betekent dat iemand het er mee eens is en tegen betekent dat iemand het er niet mee eens is. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:58 (CEST) sgv2n0ztqdmmf8dxqzhuammm102wglp 5504272 5504270 2026-03-31T10:59:34Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504272 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/archief/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) :Je hebt de mogelijkheid om je aan te melden en zo na te gaan of er voldoende vertrouwen is dat je het werk van moderator kan verrichten. De gebruikelijke gang van zaken is dat je in De Kroeg aangeeft dat je je hebt aangemeld en daarna rustig afwacht wat de reacties zijn. Het is vreemd om een beperkt aantal gebruikers te vragen om een stem uit te brengen. Voor de gebruikers die ervoor kiezen geen stem uit te brengen kan het ergerlijk zijn als je dat bij herhaling doet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:19 (CEST) ::Wat is voor en wat is tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:57 (CEST) :::Voor betekent dat iemand het er mee eens is en tegen betekent dat iemand het er niet mee eens is. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:58 (CEST) ::::Ze zijn er niet mee eens, moet er ook iemand voor kiezen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:59 (CEST) hm531mktm7t0zupm43in5gsvq9s0635 5504274 5504272 2026-03-31T11:00:48Z Vuurregenboog 66174 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504274 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/archief/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) :Je hebt de mogelijkheid om je aan te melden en zo na te gaan of er voldoende vertrouwen is dat je het werk van moderator kan verrichten. De gebruikelijke gang van zaken is dat je in De Kroeg aangeeft dat je je hebt aangemeld en daarna rustig afwacht wat de reacties zijn. Het is vreemd om een beperkt aantal gebruikers te vragen om een stem uit te brengen. Voor de gebruikers die ervoor kiezen geen stem uit te brengen kan het ergerlijk zijn als je dat bij herhaling doet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:19 (CEST) ::Wat is voor en wat is tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:57 (CEST) :::Voor betekent dat iemand het er mee eens is en tegen betekent dat iemand het er niet mee eens is. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:58 (CEST) ::::Ze zijn er niet mee eens, moet er ook iemand voor kiezen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:59 (CEST) :::::TijdBot is trouwens voor onbepaalde tijd geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:00 (CEST) jc15yttygi86dg4j2qgmtu2kgg4p6fg 5504277 5504274 2026-03-31T11:02:16Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504277 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/archief/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) :Je hebt de mogelijkheid om je aan te melden en zo na te gaan of er voldoende vertrouwen is dat je het werk van moderator kan verrichten. De gebruikelijke gang van zaken is dat je in De Kroeg aangeeft dat je je hebt aangemeld en daarna rustig afwacht wat de reacties zijn. Het is vreemd om een beperkt aantal gebruikers te vragen om een stem uit te brengen. Voor de gebruikers die ervoor kiezen geen stem uit te brengen kan het ergerlijk zijn als je dat bij herhaling doet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:19 (CEST) ::Wat is voor en wat is tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:57 (CEST) :::Voor betekent dat iemand het er mee eens is en tegen betekent dat iemand het er niet mee eens is. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:58 (CEST) ::::Ze zijn er niet mee eens, moet er ook iemand voor kiezen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:59 (CEST) :::::TijdBot is trouwens voor onbepaalde tijd geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:00 (CEST) ::::::Nogmaals: moet er ook iemand voor kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) hnagye2qplqu73iq9jcyxjknwous4o8 5504284 5504277 2026-03-31T11:10:46Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504284 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/archief/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) :Je hebt de mogelijkheid om je aan te melden en zo na te gaan of er voldoende vertrouwen is dat je het werk van moderator kan verrichten. De gebruikelijke gang van zaken is dat je in De Kroeg aangeeft dat je je hebt aangemeld en daarna rustig afwacht wat de reacties zijn. Het is vreemd om een beperkt aantal gebruikers te vragen om een stem uit te brengen. Voor de gebruikers die ervoor kiezen geen stem uit te brengen kan het ergerlijk zijn als je dat bij herhaling doet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:19 (CEST) ::Wat is voor en wat is tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:57 (CEST) :::Voor betekent dat iemand het er mee eens is en tegen betekent dat iemand het er niet mee eens is. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:58 (CEST) ::::Ze zijn er niet mee eens, moet er ook iemand voor kiezen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:59 (CEST) :::::TijdBot is trouwens voor onbepaalde tijd geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:00 (CEST) ::::::Nogmaals: moet er ook iemand voor kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::::Ik heb een voorstel, zullen we tegen markeren als dat ik wel moderator wordt? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:10 (CEST) bbnmelz3odn034g0phbitzmu79jq3yj 5504298 5504284 2026-03-31T11:45:27Z Latijn 65243 /* Ik word een moderator */ Reactie 5504298 wikitext text/x-wiki <section begin=nav/><div style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center; font-size: 80%;"> '''Archief eerder overleg:''' [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/archief/2025|2025]] • [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}|Huidig overleg]] </div><section end=nav/>[[Bestand:grayline.PNG|center]] {{Clr}} == Wat is beter? == Is haarstoel beter dan vluchtstoel? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:28 (CET) :haarstoel is wel beter [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:19 (CET) == [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] == Hallo Latijn zou u voortaan woorden bij het gevraagd materiaal kunnen zetten. Groetjes [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:30 (CET) :iemand anders doet het wel, ik heb er gewoon veel moeite mee [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 14:33 (CET) ::Bedankt voor het toevoegen van buisstoel in het Gevraagd materiaal [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 3 feb 2026 13:20 (CET) == Artikel is verwijderd == Is de artikel verwijderd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 4 mrt 2026 14:59 (CET) :Bedoelt u het artikel Baby Globe? [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:51 (CET) ::Ja [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:57 (CET) :::Ja het artikel Baby Globe is verwijderd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 19:58 (CET) ::::Maar op andere Wikimedia-sites wordt het aangegeven wat het is [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 9 mrt 2026 20:02 (CET) :::::Dat hangt natuurlijk af van het karakter van de site. De eigennaam "Baby Globe" is gewoon (nog) niet gangbaar genoeg om in WikiWoordenboek op te nemen. Volgens mij is dat ook op de andere Wiktionary's zo. En ik zie ook nog geen Wikipedia-artikel over Baby Globe, vermoedelijk omdat er nog niet genoeg over is geschreven in betrouwbare bronnen. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 17 mrt 2026 23:28 (CET) ::::::Duurde wel even voordat het werd beantwoord. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 20 mrt 2026 16:06 (CET) :::::::Dus niet te attesteren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 mrt 2026 20:49 (CET) ::::::::Dat is inderdaad de korte samenvatting. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 mrt 2026 08:41 (CET) [[Categorie:Gebruiker:Latijn| 2]] == Ik word een moderator == Ik ga op nl.wiktionary een moderator worden [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 26 mrt 2026 13:53 (CET) :@[[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]], wil jij de gebruikers op aanmelding moderators op voor of tegen zetten? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 12:55 (CEST) ::Ik ben tegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) :::En wie is voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:01 (CEST) ::::TijdBot en dat is de enige die voor is [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::Moet je MarcoSwart, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders vragen of ze voor of tegen willen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:03 (CEST) ::::::Het kan ook zijn dat ze nog even aan het nadenken zijn. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:04 (CEST) :::::::maar als ze echt zouden kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 13:53 (CEST) ::::::::MarcoSwart kiest tegen. als de andere, Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Marcel coenders dit ook doen wordt de moderatorschap afgezegd [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 14:27 (CEST) :::::::::Marcel coenders is ook tegen. [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Marcel coenders|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:39 (CEST) ::::::::::Kiezen Kvdrgeus, Jochenknabben en Lotje wel voor? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:49 (CEST) :::::::::::@[[Gebruiker:Jochenknabben|Jochenknabben]], kies je voor of tegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 10:52 (CEST) :Je hebt de mogelijkheid om je aan te melden en zo na te gaan of er voldoende vertrouwen is dat je het werk van moderator kan verrichten. De gebruikelijke gang van zaken is dat je in De Kroeg aangeeft dat je je hebt aangemeld en daarna rustig afwacht wat de reacties zijn. Het is vreemd om een beperkt aantal gebruikers te vragen om een stem uit te brengen. Voor de gebruikers die ervoor kiezen geen stem uit te brengen kan het ergerlijk zijn als je dat bij herhaling doet. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:19 (CEST) ::Wat is voor en wat is tegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:57 (CEST) :::Voor betekent dat iemand het er mee eens is en tegen betekent dat iemand het er niet mee eens is. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:58 (CEST) ::::Ze zijn er niet mee eens, moet er ook iemand voor kiezen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:59 (CEST) :::::TijdBot is trouwens voor onbepaalde tijd geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:00 (CEST) ::::::Nogmaals: moet er ook iemand voor kiezen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:02 (CEST) :::::::Ik heb een voorstel, zullen we tegen markeren als dat ik wel moderator wordt? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:10 (CEST) ::::::::@[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]], ik heb een voorstel: zullen we tegen als wel mee eens laten markeren [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 13:45 (CEST) pouk5atj6lwuj5yu30q5ot2g2otnxlx 4 1330556 5504086 5454855 2026-03-30T16:25:42Z Latijn 65243 5504086 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˌtjoepie}} {{-syll-}} *choo·pie {{-etym-}} *van Choopie, elk van de vier hoofdpersonen uit de tv-serie voor jonge kinderen Choopies {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]||}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} # een karakter uit de serie Choopies {{citeer|artikel|datum = |auteur = |titel = |url = https://www.babytv.com/nl/show/choopies|uitgever = BbayTV|bezochtdatum =2026-03-30|citaat = De Choopies zijn vrolijke en avontuurlijke padvinders. In elke aflevering krijgen ze een taak van hun leider en hebben ze de missie om een verschillend voorwerp mee terug te brengen. Als ze terug zijn, monteert de leider alle aparte voorwerpen; met elkaar vormen deze iets waar iedereen van kan genieten. }} {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{refs}} mjhql9qv1xvd7wdy7b9oke61fs6erds 5504087 5504086 2026-03-30T16:26:10Z Latijn 65243 5504087 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˌtjoepie}} {{-syll-}} *choo·pie {{-etym-}} *van Choopie, elk van de vier hoofdpersonen uit de tv-serie voor jonge kinderen Choopies {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]||}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} # een karakter uit de serie Choopies {{citeer|artikel|datum = |auteur = |titel = |url = https://www.babytv.com/nl/show/choopies|uitgever = BabyTV|bezochtdatum =2026-03-30|citaat = De '''Choopies''' zijn vrolijke en avontuurlijke padvinders. In elke aflevering krijgen ze een taak van hun leider en hebben ze de missie om een verschillend voorwerp mee terug te brengen. Als ze terug zijn, monteert de leider alle aparte voorwerpen; met elkaar vormen deze iets waar iedereen van kan genieten. }} {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{refs}} l417q4j1gzv65ylql18sa1orkumv1ag 0 1345777 5504207 5503611 2026-03-31T07:32:32Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504207 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/vər'kislək/|nld}}--> {{-syll-}} * pre·fe·ra·bel {{-etym-}} * geattesteerd sinds 1752, leenwoord van {{fra}} {{Q|préférable}} {{ebank}} * kan opgevat worden als een afleiding van {{Q|prefereren|nld}} {{suff|nld|-abel}} {{adjcomp|p=1|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}e]]|[[{{pn}}er]]|[[{{pn}}ere]]|[[{{pn}}st]]|[[{{pn}}ste]]|part=[[{{pn}}s]]|partcomp=[[{{pn}}ers]]}} {{-adjc-|nld}} '''{{pn}}''' # voorkeur verdienend {{-syn-}} * [[verkieslijk]] {{-trans-|verkieslijk}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} 2rxmdvyku4ahuugs60vijqdalpv4cqo 1 1345855 5504174 5503102 2026-03-30T19:53:07Z MarcoSwart 9001 /* naam */ Reactie 5504174 wikitext text/x-wiki == naam == De Dikke Van Dale Online noemt het dier: '''watoessi''', dus zonder '''rund''' en met '''oe''' in plaats van '''u'''. [[Gebruiker:Heureka|Heureka]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Heureka|overleg]]) 28 mrt 2026 09:44 (CET) :Van Dale hanteert die schrijfwijze al vanaf 1970 (9e druk, supplement) en er is zelfs in 1941 al een vindplaats voor ''watoessirund''. Maar er zijn in 1940 ook al vindplaatsen voor ''watusirund''. De eerste vorm gaat vooral uit van de uitspraak, de tweede meer van de etymologie: het deel "watusi" verwijst naar de Tutsi's. Het is voorstelbaar dat beide vormen naast elkaar aanvaardbaar zijn. Op woordenlijst.org vinden we [[Saoedisch]] naast [[Saudisch]] en [[Soedanees]] naast [[Sudanees]]. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 30 mrt 2026 21:53 (CEST) 0q278h9org53nh1rjkevg902fx52ezk 0 1346201 5504014 5503685 2026-03-30T14:28:46Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504014 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[File:Locatie_Golf_van_Riga.PNG|thumb|200px|situering van de '''{{pn}}''']] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/xxxx/|nld}}--> {{-etym-}} *{{coll|nld|golf van Riga}} {{-syll-}} *Golf van Ri·ga {{-name-|nld}} {{-l-|fm}} #{{toponiem|nld|land=Estland|land2=Letland}} baai van de [[Oostzee]] tussen [[Estland]] en [[Letland]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|1.}} *{{deu}}: {{trad|de|Rigaischer Meerbusen}} {{m}} *{{eng}}: {{trad|en|Gulf of Riga}} {{trans-mid}} *{{fra}}: {{trad|fr|golfe de Riga}} {{m}}, {{trad|fr|golfe de Livonie}} {{m}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-info-}} 5ccc9mpiwpzfyqkb4bhx9f56l4tpdi8 0 1346311 5504008 5503961 2026-03-30T13:17:47Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504008 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *oes·tro·geen·pleis·ter {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|oestrogeen|zn||pleister|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|fm}} #{{medisch|nld}} een pleister waaraan oestrogeen is toegevoegd dat langzaam wordt afgegeven {{bijv-1|Hormoonpleisters ([[oestrogeenpleister]]s) vormen een effectief, [[patiëntvriendelijk]]er alternatief voor injecties bij de behandeling van [[prostaatkanker]]. Ze verlagen het [[testosteron]], wat de groei van de tumor remt of stopt. Pleisters bieden voordelen zoals minder [[botontkalking]] en [[opvlieger]]s in vergelijking met standaard [[injectietherapie]]}} {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} londhmadh2i3mu4nbptajkc6i16qcu8 0 1346312 5504061 5503983 2026-03-30T15:44:21Z MarcoSwart 9001 aanvulling 5504061 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈmeɣaˌwɪŋkəl}} {{-syll-}} *me·ga·win·kel {{-etym-}} *afgeleid van [[winkel]] {{pref|nld|mega-}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{bedrijf|nld}} zeer grote winkel die een breed scala aan producten aanbiedt, met daarbinnen een groot assortiment {{citeer|web|citaat=Alle Bart Smits worden voor het eind maart omgebouwd. Eind 2017 moeten de '''megawinkels''' van Toys XL volgen. Er is gekozen voor de naam Intertoys omdat die keten al de meeste winkels heeft. |datum=7 februari 2017 |url=https://www.rtl.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/205556/twee-maanden-verdwijnt-bart-smit-alle-winkels-worden-intertoys/ |titel=In twee maanden verdwijnt Bart Smit: alle winkels worden Intertoys |website=rtl.nl |taal=nl |archiefurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20260330153950/https://www.rtl.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/205556/twee-maanden-verdwijnt-bart-smit-alle-winkels-worden-intertoys |bezochtdatum=2026-03-30}} {{citeer|web|citaat=Het is een mannetjesding om niet naar de IKEA te willen. Dat zal te maken hebben met die uniforme koopmeute, die gedwongen maar gedwee door het doolhof van de megawinkel dromt. |auteur=Menno Steketee |titel=Tartaar van rivierkreeft |datum=25 januari 2011 |website=nrc.nl |taal=nl |bezochtdatum=2026-03-30}} {{-rel-}} *[[hypermarkt]] *[[megastore]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{refs}} c3pk0jzo4syxreyojw28nro5ehznozp 0 1346321 5504050 5503980 2026-03-30T15:24:12Z Lotje 8037 +afbeelding 5504050 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[afbeelding:Browne, Henriette - A Girl Writing; The Pet Goldfinch - Google Art Project.jpg|thumb|1. Meisje wordt bij een '''schrijfoefening''' afgeleid door haar [[putter]].]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈsxrɛifufəˌnɪŋ}} {{-syll-}} *schrijf·oe·fe·ning {{-etym-}} *{{samen|nld|schrijf|ww||oefening|zn}} {{wnt-r|M041494.re.13}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[schrijfoefeningen]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #{{onderwijs|nld}} activiteit om beter te worden in het weergeven van tekst in tekens #resultaat van een activiteit om beter te worden in het weergeven van tekst in tekens {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} 1lq9j4w638a7rq1exqdrvaui678v86v 0 1346336 5504011 2026-03-30T14:26:37Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-Le Commissaire-xérophyte.wav|{{pn}} (Elzas)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/gze.ʁɔ.fit/|fra}}, {{IPA|/kse.ʁɔ.fit/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|la {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{f}} #{{beschrijvende plantkunde|fra}} {{Q|xerofyt|nld}}' 5504011 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-Le Commissaire-xérophyte.wav|{{pn}} (Elzas)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/gze.ʁɔ.fit/|fra}}, {{IPA|/kse.ʁɔ.fit/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|la {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{f}} #{{beschrijvende plantkunde|fra}} {{Q|xerofyt|nld}} bq2mmk1rv2i7gfraet8g5tiki8avzni 0 1346337 5504012 2026-03-30T14:28:00Z Vuurregenboog 66174 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *oor·aan·doe·ning {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #een verzamelnaam voor elke afwijking, ziekte of beschadiging aan het oor die het gehoor of het evenwicht kan beïnvloeden {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}}' 5504012 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *oor·aan·doe·ning {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #een verzamelnaam voor elke afwijking, ziekte of beschadiging aan het oor die het gehoor of het evenwicht kan beïnvloeden {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} 903fad1z5r5qdvdddg5kj9xewr17yh7 5504031 5504012 2026-03-30T15:03:29Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nld: + etym 5504031 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *oor·aan·doe·ning {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|oor|zn||aandoening|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #{{medisch|nld}} een verzamelnaam voor elke afwijking, ziekte of beschadiging aan het oor die het gehoor of het evenwicht kan beïnvloeden {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} 9ts5cwvdt2fak6cq2i93rm9xcikaglw 0 1346338 5504015 2026-03-30T14:33:39Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/vi.ɲɔbl/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *{{fro}} leenwoord van {{pro}} ''{{Q|vinhovre|pro}}'', geattesteerd sinds ca. 1200 {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #[[wijngaard]] {{refs}}' 5504015 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/vi.ɲɔbl/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *{{fro}} leenwoord van {{pro}} ''{{Q|vinhovre|pro}}'', geattesteerd sinds ca. 1200 {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #[[wijngaard]] {{refs}} meaazrghzm2q05ytf0ejroeodkaapgb 0 1346339 5504016 2026-03-30T14:39:10Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|Fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu.sø/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{Q|mousse|fra}} "schuim" {{suff|fra|-eux}} {{TLFe-r}} {{-fradjc-|{{pn}}|{{pn}}|[[mouseuse]]|[[mouseuse]]}} {{-adjc-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[schuimend]]; [[schuim]]-; schuim bevattend {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}}, {{drinken|fra}} [[mousserende wijn]], [[schuimwijn]] {{-s…' 5504016 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|Fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu.sø/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{Q|mousse|fra}} "schuim" {{suff|fra|-eux}} {{TLFe-r}} {{-fradjc-|{{pn}}|{{pn}}|[[mouseuse]]|[[mouseuse]]}} {{-adjc-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #[[schuimend]]; [[schuim]]-; schuim bevattend {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}}, {{drinken|fra}} [[mousserende wijn]], [[schuimwijn]] {{-syn-}} *{{Q|vin mousseux|fra}} {{refs}} 9mfgkc6htxm4gw983rxamw37b5d8gpb 0 1346340 5504019 2026-03-30T14:52:10Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ʃu də bʁy.sɛl/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *{{coll|fra}}, letterlijk "kool van [[Brussel]]" {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|choux de Bruxelles|les choux de Bruxelles}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{groente|fra}} [[spruit]] [2]' 5504019 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ʃu də bʁy.sɛl/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *{{coll|fra}}, letterlijk "kool van [[Brussel]]" {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|choux de Bruxelles|les choux de Bruxelles}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{groente|fra}} [[spruit]] [2] h9ltv8sex90pctwi5wwyks4b8l9hlwc 5504119 5504019 2026-03-30T17:49:58Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504119 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ʃu də bʁy.sɛl/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *{{coll|fra}}, letterlijk "kool van [[Brussel]]" {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|choux de Bruxelles|les choux de Bruxelles}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{voeding|fra}}, {{groente|fra}}n {{bloemplanten|fra}} [[spruitkool]], [[spruit]] [2] srxvtsokrudxviknnnn0yq79la7w0sv 0 1346341 5504022 2026-03-30T14:58:48Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * be·las·ting·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|belastingwijziging}}' 5504022 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * be·las·ting·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|belastingwijziging}} m8oi5vrxpmnbzyl43997qykaz45238p 0 1346342 5504023 2026-03-30T14:59:05Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * be·las·ting·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|belastingwijziging}}' 5504023 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * be·las·ting·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|belastingwijziging}} 3tkfzb22qtm9qmapvzmaoyfevktzxuh 0 1346343 5504024 2026-03-30T14:59:20Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * be·las·ting·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|belastingwijziging}}' 5504024 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * be·las·ting·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|belastingwijziging}} 8ylr7pnbvlqkjrpn90yhpbd3au4gqw7 0 1346344 5504025 2026-03-30T14:59:25Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|bə'lɑstɪŋwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * be·las·ting·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|belasting|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[belastingwijzigingen]]|[[belastingwijzigingetje]]|[[belastingwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # een aanpassing in de…' 5504025 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|bə'lɑstɪŋwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * be·las·ting·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|belasting|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[belastingwijzigingen]]|[[belastingwijzigingetje]]|[[belastingwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # een aanpassing in de belastingwetgeving door de overheid, waardoor de hoogte van belastingen, heffingskortingen, aftrekposten of de regels voor belastingaangifte veranderen. Dit heeft directe gevolgen voor het netto inkomen van burgers en ondernemers # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> 2bdp87fwe0jmq8xqerhchkwb1vc2fz2 0 1346345 5504026 2026-03-30T15:02:35Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * spel·re·gel·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|spelregelwijziging}}' 5504026 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * spel·re·gel·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|spelregelwijziging}} el7qdguj3cilm96zvmoabtxlyqp82qg 0 1346346 5504027 2026-03-30T15:02:45Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * spel·re·gel·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|spelregelwijziging}}' 5504027 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * spel·re·gel·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|spelregelwijziging}} lzx9wg6xk8yjtlolq65njvez3ki9n6d 0 1346347 5504028 2026-03-30T15:02:51Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * spel·re·gel·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|spelregelwijziging}}' 5504028 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * spel·re·gel·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|spelregelwijziging}} 61mevgfvyx1v7xlkvp2yz17wfgo298h 0 1346348 5504029 2026-03-30T15:03:04Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'spɛlreɣəlwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * spel·re·gel·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|spelregel|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[spelregelwijzigingen]]|[[spelregelwijzigingetje]]|[[spelregelwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # Een spelregelwijziging…' 5504029 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'spɛlreɣəlwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * spel·re·gel·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|spelregel|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[spelregelwijzigingen]]|[[spelregelwijzigingetje]]|[[spelregelwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # Een spelregelwijziging is een formele aanpassing in de reglementen van een sport, doorgevoerd door een bond (zoals de KNVB) om het spel eerlijker, veiliger of aantrekkelijker te maken. Recente voorbeelden in het voetbal (seizoen '25/'26) zijn de 8-secondenregel voor keepers en dat alleen de aanvoerder met de scheidsrechter mag praten # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> g5i527cxsveozsrhp6p0x8edlwnwr0c 0 1346349 5504030 2026-03-30T15:03:09Z Vuurregenboog 66174 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *voet·aan·doe·ning {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #een verzamelnaam voor ziektes, afwijkingen of klachten aan de voeten {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}}' 5504030 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *voet·aan·doe·ning {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #een verzamelnaam voor ziektes, afwijkingen of klachten aan de voeten {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} dra7cjykgiotl1y5asnqxt3hr26ztjj 0 1346350 5504033 2026-03-30T15:06:57Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * roos·ter·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|roosterwijziging}}' 5504033 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * roos·ter·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|roosterwijziging}} 5ry8w95v837atxk2leuucl1l72617fa 0 1346351 5504034 2026-03-30T15:07:10Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * roos·ter·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|roosterwijziging}}' 5504034 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * roos·ter·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|roosterwijziging}} la0zlyfup0ambip9c1pv3ljbnshz67w 0 1346352 5504035 2026-03-30T15:07:16Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * roos·ter·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|roosterwijziging}}' 5504035 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * roos·ter·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|roosterwijziging}} qx2d6wxg48rg2jrtkd9yk8b60t7g3on 0 1346353 5504036 2026-03-30T15:07:21Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'rostərwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * roos·ter·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|rooster|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[roosterwijzigingen]]|[[roosterwijzigingetje]]|[[roosterwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # aanpassing van het vastgestelde werkroo…' 5504036 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'rostərwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * roos·ter·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|rooster|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[roosterwijzigingen]]|[[roosterwijzigingetje]]|[[roosterwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # aanpassing van het vastgestelde werkrooster door de werkgever, waarbij werktijden of werkdagen veranderen. Dit kan incidenteel (bijv. door ziekte) of structureel zijn. De wijziging moet redelijk zijn, tijdig worden gecommuniceerd en vaak in overleg met de werknemer gebeuren. # aanpassing van het lesrooster op een middelbare school # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> 74pydmikbqi0239m68tmvhz9xrw8ylr 0 1346354 5504037 2026-03-30T15:08:39Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{zie-ook|mout}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}} nog niet gegiste [[druivensap]] #[[wort]]; aftreksel van mout {{-writ-fra-t-|mout}} {{-info-|W=fr:{{pn}}}}' 5504037 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|mout}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}} nog niet gegiste [[druivensap]] #[[wort]]; aftreksel van mout {{-writ-fra-t-|mout}} {{-info-|W=fr:{{pn}}}} 9iqwwoaydpmkpsyf2va7ai21jo1czfk 5504038 5504037 2026-03-30T15:09:16Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504038 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|mout}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}} nog niet gegiste [[druivensap]] #[[wort]]; aftreksel van mout, "sap" dat nog gegist moet worden {{-writ-fra-t-|mout}} {{-info-|W=fr:{{pn}}}} 60bhs4ytaw81z38tq1nzv81revqkvxs 5504039 5504038 2026-03-30T15:10:49Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504039 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|mout}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{lat}} {{Q|mustum|lat}} "nog niet gegiste druivensap, bedoeld om wijn mee te maken" {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}} nog niet gegiste [[druivensap]] #[[wort]]; aftreksel van mout, "sap" dat nog gegist moet worden {{-writ-fra-t-|mout}} {{-info-|W=fr:{{pn}}}} {{refs}} 2bdau771n1ze31bfl9gpxvrt1lvoaf7 5504041 5504039 2026-03-30T15:12:44Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504041 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|mout}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{lat}} {{Q|mustum|lat}} "nog niet gegiste druivensap, bedoeld om wijn mee te maken" {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}} nog niet gegiste [[druivensap]] #[[wort]], aftreksel van mout, "sap" dat nog gegist moet worden {{-writ-fra-t-|mout}} {{-info-|W=fr:{{pn}}}} {{refs}} 4yvyiavbiwwcp2fy6vu6a16zy539i2o 5504049 5504041 2026-03-30T15:24:01Z Jochenknabben 60937 Fr: + sound 5504049 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|mout}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-WikiLucas00-moût.wav|{{pn}} (Lyon)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{lat}} {{Q|mustum|lat}} "nog niet gegiste druivensap, bedoeld om wijn mee te maken" {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}} nog niet gegiste [[druivensap]] #[[wort]], aftreksel van mout, "sap" dat nog gegist moet worden {{-writ-fra-t-|mout}} {{-info-|W=fr:{{pn}}}} {{refs}} bbxcu3b3ybph58h5yn2l8rqu1syrvv6 5504051 5504049 2026-03-30T15:24:43Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504051 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|mout}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-WikiLucas00-moût.wav|{{pn}} (Lyon)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{lat}} {{Q|mustum|lat}} "nog niet gegiste druivensap, bedoeld om wijn mee te maken" {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}} nog niet gegiste [[druivensap]]; [[most]] #[[wort]], aftreksel van mout, "sap" dat nog gegist moet worden {{-writ-fra-t-|mout}} {{-info-|W=fr:{{pn}}}} {{refs}} mdvzi0zk8b7xkje7qjm94dozjzwjx4r 5504053 5504051 2026-03-30T15:25:32Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504053 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|mout}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-WikiLucas00-moût.wav|{{pn}} (Lyon)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{lat}} {{Q|mustum|lat}} "nog niet gegiste druivensap, bedoeld om wijn mee te maken" {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}} nog niet gegiste [[druivensap]]; [[druivenmost]] #[[wort]], aftreksel van mout, "sap" dat nog gegist moet worden {{-writ-fra-t-|mout}} {{-info-|W=fr:{{pn}}}} {{refs}} b0icogk90zj0bdzwze27uj2djldl7up 5504054 5504053 2026-03-30T15:25:55Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504054 wikitext text/x-wiki {{zie-ook|mout}} {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q150 (fra)-WikiLucas00-moût.wav|{{pn}} (Lyon)|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/mu/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{lat}} {{Q|mustum|lat}} "nog niet gegiste druivensap, bedoeld om wijn mee te maken" {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{oenologie|fra}} nog niet gegiste [[druivensap]]; [[druivenmost]] #[[most]] #[[wort]], aftreksel van mout, "sap" dat nog gegist moet worden {{-writ-fra-t-|mout}} {{-info-|W=fr:{{pn}}}} {{refs}} gyvj8zi256fq0qkxx2cz91k8zr506m5 0 1346355 5504042 2026-03-30T15:14:32Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *sprook·jes·pa·leis {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|sprookje|zn||paleis|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[sprookjespaleizen]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #paleis zoals het in sprookjes wordt beschreven {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504042 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *sprook·jes·pa·leis {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|sprookje|zn||paleis|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[sprookjespaleizen]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #paleis zoals het in sprookjes wordt beschreven {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} pjkh8tjynmglvn0fp6138cxi292ectf 0 1346356 5504043 2026-03-30T15:15:49Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *sprook·jes·schrij·ver {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|sprookje|zn||schrijver|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M065597.re.6}} #iemand die sprookjes schrijft {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}}' 5504043 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *sprook·jes·schrij·ver {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|sprookje|zn||schrijver|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M065597.re.6}} #iemand die sprookjes schrijft {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} hfxxiib4vows9imiy2bq2chb7ppjqkl 0 1346357 5504044 2026-03-30T15:17:30Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *sprook·jes·sfeer {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|sprookje|zn||sfeer|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[sprookjessferen]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|fm}} {{wnt-r|A014268.re.1}} #een sfeer als van een sprookje {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}}' 5504044 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *sprook·jes·sfeer {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|sprookje|zn||sfeer|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[sprookjessferen]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|fm}} {{wnt-r|A014268.re.1}} #een sfeer als van een sprookje {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} iqokfs2sx9mxw4af5upm3spb2z2pddg 0 1346358 5504045 2026-03-30T15:18:49Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *sprook·jes·ver·tel·ler {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|sprookje|zn||verteller|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M065597.re.8}} {{wnt-r|M078744.re.3}} #een verteller van sprookjes {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}}' 5504045 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *sprook·jes·ver·tel·ler {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|sprookje|zn||verteller|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M065597.re.8}} {{wnt-r|M078744.re.3}} #een verteller van sprookjes {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} elteormmp3l3tgbil7qulhzvvhmft41 5504046 5504045 2026-03-30T15:19:19Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504046 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *sprook·jes·ver·tel·ler {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|sprookje|zn||verteller|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M065597.re.8}} #een verteller van sprookjes {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} jipcexjh5v3c6w6rplpip0e298el5r2 0 1346359 5504048 2026-03-30T15:23:15Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *kinds·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|kind|zn||gedeelte|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[kindsgedeeltes]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M032411}} #[[kindsdeel]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{refs}}' 5504048 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *kinds·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|kind|zn||gedeelte|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[kindsgedeeltes]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M032411}} #[[kindsdeel]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{refs}} d1u6g6s33teltuxqti3hubi82x9rque 5504056 5504048 2026-03-30T15:27:49Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504056 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *kinds·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|kind|zn||gedeelte|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[kindsgedeeltes]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M032411}} #[[kindsdeel]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} 877wa2ulddvothf4oicvhkdofbmxb34 0 1346360 5504058 2026-03-30T15:31:43Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈlɑntsxədeltə}} {{-syll-}} *lands·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|land|zn||gedeelte|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[landsgedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M036274.re.382}} # {{-syn-}} *[[landgedeelte]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}}' 5504058 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈlɑntsxədeltə}} {{-syll-}} *lands·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|land|zn||gedeelte|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[landsgedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M036274.re.382}} # {{-syn-}} *[[landgedeelte]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} 8btgurx2grav91umzudmyorqwqe6v0e 0 1346361 5504060 2026-03-30T15:40:12Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *lin·ker·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|linker|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[linkergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte aan de [[linkerkant]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504060 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *lin·ker·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|linker|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[linkergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte aan de [[linkerkant]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} mhdrfmx4f1sszx0a2tfm214io6xbjun 5504067 5504060 2026-03-30T16:01:00Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504067 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *lin·ker·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|linker|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[linkergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte aan de [[linkerkant]] {{-ant-}} * [[rechtergedeelte]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} 8mk2m6pdfjg1j3n5t11kk5o9x0cnzd3 0 1346362 5504063 2026-03-30T15:57:43Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *niet-·ro·ken·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|niet-roken|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[niet-rokengedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte waarin niet gerookt mag worden {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504063 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *niet-·ro·ken·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|niet-roken|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[niet-rokengedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte waarin niet gerookt mag worden {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} tdwuu6fydnkyzfonup53ddh28h52mb1 5504064 5504063 2026-03-30T15:58:16Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504064 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *niet-·ro·ken·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samsam|nld|niet|||roken|ww||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[niet-rokengedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte waarin niet gerookt mag worden {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} 869skj14jg2plve17fqnpia8eafgh9d 0 1346363 5504065 2026-03-30T15:59:22Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *on·der·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|onder|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[ondergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M043328}} #het gedeelte aan de [[onderkant]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}}' 5504065 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *on·der·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|onder|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[ondergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M043328}} #het gedeelte aan de [[onderkant]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} 6fthlqe3ozfvk950evc88ixlwmhaizz 5504066 5504065 2026-03-30T16:00:04Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504066 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *on·der·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|onder|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[ondergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M043328}} #het gedeelte aan de [[onderkant]] {{-ant-}} * [[bovengedeelte]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} h29rse44y0wkkq5iqvalwkecx8jowys 0 1346364 5504068 2026-03-30T16:01:41Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *rech·ter·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|rechter|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[rechtergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504068 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *rech·ter·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|rechter|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[rechtergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} r6e8ay6gbs4ju673azguchaedtxd3js 5504069 5504068 2026-03-30T16:02:32Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504069 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *rech·ter·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|rechter|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[rechtergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte aan de [[rechterkant]] {{-ant-}} * [[linkergedeelte]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} 3jliaubxt0f8uyvxmpoke1b5e7dq5d9 0 1346365 5504070 2026-03-30T16:04:05Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *on·der·wa·ter·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|onderwater|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[onderwatergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte dat onderwater ligt {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504070 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *on·der·wa·ter·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|onderwater|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[onderwatergedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte dat onderwater ligt {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} 5yt41j41983foxydj88zp8y0jloto3q 0 1346366 5504071 2026-03-30T16:05:48Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *prak·tijk·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|praktijk|zn||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[praktijkgedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte waar de praktijk zich bevindt #het gedeelte dat op de praktijk betrekking heeft {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504071 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *prak·tijk·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|praktijk|zn||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[praktijkgedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte waar de praktijk zich bevindt #het gedeelte dat op de praktijk betrekking heeft {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} qkzh2hszq07vsqfr78p2vpqbl1h58yl 0 1346367 5504073 2026-03-30T16:07:03Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *rij·wiel·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|rijwiel|zn||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[rijwielgedeeltes]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte waar zich de rijwielen bevinden {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{-info-}}' 5504073 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *rij·wiel·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|rijwiel|zn||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[rijwielgedeeltes]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte waar zich de rijwielen bevinden {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{-info-}} mo3rr1aqw1ov9isn8t4xd217iwj7q38 0 1346368 5504074 2026-03-30T16:08:08Z Vuurregenboog 66174 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *ju·li·en·ne·snij·der {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #handig keukenhulpje waarmee je groenten en fruit in flinterdunne, gelijkmatige reepjes snijdt {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}}' 5504074 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *ju·li·en·ne·snij·der {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #handig keukenhulpje waarmee je groenten en fruit in flinterdunne, gelijkmatige reepjes snijdt {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} sg8ugopxghgxbqs27sdaumzio95sjy2 5504290 5504074 2026-03-31T11:21:28Z Vuurregenboog 66174 5504290 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *ju·li·en·ne·snij·der {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #handig keukenhulpje waarmee je groenten en fruit in flinterdunne, gelijkmatige reepjes snijdt {{-syn-}} *[[julienneschiller]], [[juliennerasp]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} 56195l2o3j6urrfnu9xyb46ljk93wop 0 1346369 5504075 2026-03-30T16:08:22Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *Schrift·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|schrift|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[schriftgedeelten]]<br>[[schriftgedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{religie|nld}} gedeelte uit de [[Bijbel]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504075 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *Schrift·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|schrift|||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[schriftgedeelten]]<br>[[schriftgedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{religie|nld}} gedeelte uit de [[Bijbel]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} iij5vp166qfqpy3snyckzxr9asu6zgh 5504076 5504075 2026-03-30T16:08:46Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504076 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *Schrift·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|Schrift|en||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[schriftgedeelten]]<br>[[schriftgedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{religie|nld}} gedeelte uit de [[Bijbel]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} fyj5wlw0dmy78cgiyhuzgpxe0t7ixea 0 1346370 5504077 2026-03-30T16:09:57Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *slaap·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|slaap|ww||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[slaapgedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte waar geslapen wordt {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504077 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *slaap·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|slaap|ww||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[slaapgedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte waar geslapen wordt {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} 7ki3mzpmz0lx1z9lowv7t2u5s8r11pe 0 1346371 5504078 2026-03-30T16:11:21Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *the·o·rie·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|theorie|zn||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[theoriegedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte dat de theorie behandelt {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504078 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *the·o·rie·ge·deel·te {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|theorie|zn||gedeelte|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[theoriegedeeltes]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #het gedeelte dat de theorie behandelt {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} byaikostonxluw8rpin6ary3lz0y0qv 0 1346372 5504079 2026-03-30T16:16:11Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * ren·te·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|rentewijziging}}' 5504079 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * ren·te·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|rentewijziging}} 6g4nbfim0zxwakawl72u6bwkpbz2n4g 0 1346373 5504080 2026-03-30T16:16:26Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * ren·te·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|rentewijziging}}' 5504080 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * ren·te·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|rentewijziging}} nwwirirrlk72roy08v5ejz0kcawc4of 0 1346374 5504081 2026-03-30T16:16:34Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * ren·te·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|rentewijziging}}' 5504081 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * ren·te·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|rentewijziging}} b80pnt14su1m9d50r2yme7zh4128pk0 0 1346375 5504082 2026-03-30T16:16:38Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'rɛntəwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * ren·te·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|rente|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[rentewijzigingen]]|[[rentewijzigingetje]]|[[rentewijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # verandering van het rentepercentage van je lening…' 5504082 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'rɛntəwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * ren·te·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|rente|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[rentewijzigingen]]|[[rentewijzigingetje]]|[[rentewijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # verandering van het rentepercentage van je lening of spaarrekening, meestal omdat een rentevaste periode afloopt en de actuele marktrente # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> c7jhrkbwgstp43hpkam1bb2f1m9yv1a 0 1346377 5504092 2026-03-30T16:52:06Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gle·ments·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|reglementswijziging}}' 5504092 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gle·ments·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|reglementswijziging}} eqn21yik5xah8dal9f36ayahvfkizs8 0 1346378 5504093 2026-03-30T16:52:18Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gle·ments·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|reglementswijziging}}' 5504093 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gle·ments·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|reglementswijziging}} meugvy01zytpbhazmixg95vnf5rhmlx 0 1346379 5504094 2026-03-30T16:52:24Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gle·ments·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|reglementswijziging}}' 5504094 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gle·ments·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|reglementswijziging}} nx98i5fwvdes6702nkbgaraeb35v2nt 0 1346380 5504095 2026-03-30T16:52:28Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|reɣlə'mɛntswɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * re·gle·ments·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|reglement|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[reglementswijzigingen]]|[[reglementswijzigingetje]]|[[reglementswijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # het officieel aa…' 5504095 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|reɣlə'mɛntswɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * re·gle·ments·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|reglement|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[reglementswijzigingen]]|[[reglementswijzigingetje]]|[[reglementswijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # het officieel aanpassen, herzien of vernieuwen van vastgestelde regels, bepalingen of voorschriften binnen een organisatie, vereniging of regeling. Het houdt in dat bestaande afspraken worden veranderd, geschrapt of aangevuld, vaak om in te spelen op nieuwe situaties of om de werkwijze te verbeteren # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> o5g6yee9qaux5w14s3qtf3d3lq9yde3 0 1346381 5504096 2026-03-30T16:55:42Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gel·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|regelwijziging}}' 5504096 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gel·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|regelwijziging}} 32jq02z6r0wfwfjiw5n3mxyj7gc7rja 0 1346382 5504097 2026-03-30T16:55:52Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gel·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|regelwijziging}}' 5504097 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gel·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|regelwijziging}} kggcyeayx0ngt2lpwpz012lffbvc37s 0 1346383 5504098 2026-03-30T16:55:58Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gel·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|regelwijziging}}' 5504098 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * re·gel·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|regelwijziging}} e1m773e556yk99eu21qy3h6s4rx3wxa 0 1346384 5504099 2026-03-30T16:56:03Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'reɣəlwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * re·gel·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|regel|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[regelwijzigingen]]|[[regelwijzigingetje]]|[[regelwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # verandering, aanpassing of correctie in een bes…' 5504099 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'reɣəlwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * re·gel·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|regel|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[regelwijzigingen]]|[[regelwijzigingetje]]|[[regelwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # verandering, aanpassing of correctie in een bestaande set regels, voorschriften, wetten of richtlijnen. Het houdt in dat de regels die eerder golden, niet langer van toepassing zijn of worden aangepast aan nieuwe omstandigheden of inzichten # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> fhcjydxdbnxj6r56oeqihc0oiq5hfhn 5504104 5504099 2026-03-30T17:01:45Z Marcel coenders 15906 5504104 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'reɣəlwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * re·gel·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|regel|zn||wijziging|zn|}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[regelwijzigingen]]|[[regelwijzigingetje]]|[[regelwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # verandering, aanpassing of correctie in een bestaande set regels, voorschriften, wetten of richtlijnen. Het houdt in dat de regels die eerder golden, niet langer van toepassing zijn of worden aangepast aan nieuwe omstandigheden of inzichten # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> 6n1cmg0tqude437u4nu1j8qybraatoe 0 1346385 5504100 2026-03-30T17:00:51Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * pro·gram·ma·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|programmawijziging}}' 5504100 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * pro·gram·ma·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|programmawijziging}} q5bsaptxndtxsxwqz5qyi7u91978hhe 0 1346386 5504101 2026-03-30T17:01:09Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * pro·gram·ma·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|programmawijziging}}' 5504101 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * pro·gram·ma·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|programmawijziging}} maz4qecdrs27wgg10oyzazbux5xdwfd 0 1346387 5504102 2026-03-30T17:01:16Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * pro·gram·ma·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|programmawijziging}}' 5504102 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * pro·gram·ma·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|programmawijziging}} 3pfqvdhdrr9fnazol78dql88cq2dbus 0 1346388 5504103 2026-03-30T17:01:20Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|pro'ɣrɑmawɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * pro·gram·ma·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|programma|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[programmawijzigingen]]|[[programmawijzigingetje]]|[[programmawijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # aanpassing in een reeds…' 5504103 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|pro'ɣrɑmawɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * pro·gram·ma·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|programma|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[programmawijzigingen]]|[[programmawijzigingetje]]|[[programmawijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # aanpassing in een reeds vastgesteld plan, traject of inhoud # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> q6wmnytz11bq4ww8bl909ku5gnii43n 0 1346389 5504105 2026-03-30T17:06:29Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * prijs·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|prijswijziging}}' 5504105 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * prijs·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|prijswijziging}} byqjzhde4c858l1zhtmtaugv5w1hamy 0 1346390 5504106 2026-03-30T17:06:41Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * prijs·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|prijswijziging}}' 5504106 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * prijs·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|prijswijziging}} sn2vbcyy5oeffqabj26a026k5jbrcy0 0 1346391 5504107 2026-03-30T17:06:49Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * prijs·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|prijswijziging}}' 5504107 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * prijs·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|prijswijziging}} 7ah1j517a79nrjdd43icqu5e1pal49o 0 1346392 5504108 2026-03-30T17:06:56Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'prɛɪswɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * prijs·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|prijs|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[prijswijzigingen]]|[[prijswijzigingetje]]|[[prijswijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # aanpassing van de prijs van een product of dienst #…' 5504108 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'prɛɪswɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * prijs·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|prijs|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[prijswijzigingen]]|[[prijswijzigingetje]]|[[prijswijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # aanpassing van de prijs van een product of dienst # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> 3ba8duu484trffbycxv6rsgaccvqxzl 0 1346393 5504109 2026-03-30T17:10:17Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * per·so·neels·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|personeelswijziging}}' 5504109 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * per·so·neels·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|personeelswijziging}} bun8snqt4t3kqihhln3tcb2g6szsrin 0 1346394 5504110 2026-03-30T17:10:29Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * per·so·neels·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|personeelswijziging}}' 5504110 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * per·so·neels·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|personeelswijziging}} 4jhi7ha0fnd4bo0ax0nv2hfxbnmvd7g 0 1346395 5504111 2026-03-30T17:10:36Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * per·so·neels·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|personeelswijziging}}' 5504111 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * per·so·neels·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|personeelswijziging}} jc6dzc8oth1nd0snoxhxf76y1wrdc1m 0 1346396 5504112 2026-03-30T17:10:40Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|pɛrso'nelswɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * per·so·neels·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|personeel|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[personeelswijzigingen]]|[[personeelswijzigingetje]]|[[personeelswijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # verandering in de s…' 5504112 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|pɛrso'nelswɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * per·so·neels·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|personeel|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[personeelswijzigingen]]|[[personeelswijzigingetje]]|[[personeelswijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # verandering in de samenstelling, inzet of administratieve gegevens van het personeel binnen een organisatie # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> pp7m1387ose4327p2hxiplmma183fu9 0 1346397 5504113 2026-03-30T17:13:48Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * or·ga·ni·sa·tie·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|organisatiewijziging}}' 5504113 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * or·ga·ni·sa·tie·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|organisatiewijziging}} rfl09mdep8fnpel099um122iv3isn1r 0 1346398 5504114 2026-03-30T17:13:59Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * or·ga·ni·sa·tie·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|organisatiewijziging}}' 5504114 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * or·ga·ni·sa·tie·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|organisatiewijziging}} j0syy8n2cjtw7qe8j344beat8oywxdh 0 1346399 5504115 2026-03-30T17:14:05Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * or·ga·ni·sa·tie·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|organisatiewijziging}}' 5504115 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * or·ga·ni·sa·tie·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|organisatiewijziging}} q87fo3esp4uj7b470namj03fe18exf7 0 1346400 5504117 2026-03-30T17:40:02Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɔrɣani'zatsiwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * or·ga·ni·sa·tie·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|organisatie|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[organisatiewijzigingen]]|[[organisatiewijzigingetje]]|[[organisatiewijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # belan…' 5504117 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɔrɣani'zatsiwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * or·ga·ni·sa·tie·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|organisatie|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[organisatiewijzigingen]]|[[organisatiewijzigingetje]]|[[organisatiewijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # belangrijke, structurele verandering in de inrichting, bevoegdheden of werkzaamheden van een bedrijf, vaak met gevolgen voor medewerkers # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> 9t8jmvtumf1leud1rc3vv70y2cx8b6n 5504118 5504117 2026-03-30T17:40:32Z Marcel coenders 15906 5504118 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɔrɣani'zatsiwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * or·ga·ni·sa·tie·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|organisatie|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[organisatiewijzigingen]]|[[organisatiewijzigingetje]]|[[organisatiewijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # belangrijke, structurele verandering in de inrichting, bevoegdheden of werkzaamheden van een bedrijf, vaak met gevolgen voor medewerkers # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> otfxo5o1a02qdofxs2jp6ixit190a9f 0 1346401 5504121 2026-03-30T17:54:07Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * naam·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|naamwijziging}}' 5504121 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * naam·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|naamwijziging}} 10n4ihj2blc37jlnhb1av2hmwtxn2t1 0 1346402 5504122 2026-03-30T17:54:17Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * naam·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|naamwijziging}}' 5504122 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * naam·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|naamwijziging}} nh8rt9v3psimmdc9f6swxwacnqajvkr 0 1346403 5504123 2026-03-30T17:54:24Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * naam·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|naamwijziging}}' 5504123 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * naam·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|naamwijziging}} envr6rkewrxp6blb6v3fuwgrcomzgc5 0 1346404 5504124 2026-03-30T17:54:51Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'namwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * naam·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|naam|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[naamwijzigingen]]|[[naamwijzigingetje]]|[[naamwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # het officiële, wettelijke proces waarbij een voornaam, doop…' 5504124 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'namwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * naam·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|naam|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[naamwijzigingen]]|[[naamwijzigingetje]]|[[naamwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # het officiële, wettelijke proces waarbij een voornaam, doopnaam of achternaam wordt aangepast in de overheidsregisters (BRP). Dit gebeurt om persoonlijke, sociale of identiteitsgerelateerde redenen, zoals adoptie, een geslachtsverandering of bij psychisch lijden onder de huidige naam # verandering van de naam van iets anders dan een persoon {{-syn-}} * [[naamsverandering]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> t49tw96l7rgojmxtmm7lquq1324ong8 0 1346405 5504125 2026-03-30T17:55:24Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɑɣreˈɣatstustɑnt}} {{-syll-}} *ag·gre·gaats·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|aggregaat|zn||toestand|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M068928.re.1}} {{wnt-r|S002875.re.3}} #[[aggregatiestoestand]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}}' 5504125 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɑɣreˈɣatstustɑnt}} {{-syll-}} *ag·gre·gaats·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|aggregaat|zn||toestand|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M068928.re.1}} {{wnt-r|S002875.re.3}} #[[aggregatiestoestand]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} nixzga424jbywvlmrh5m4aso3s9s1as 5504126 5504125 2026-03-30T17:57:18Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504126 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɑɣreˈɣatstustɑnt}} {{-syll-}} *ag·gre·gaats·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|aggregaat|zn||toestand|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M068928.re.1}} {{wnt-r|S002875.re.3}} #{{natuurkunde|nld}} toestand waarin een stof naar de mate van samenhang der moleculen verkeert, t.w. [[vast]], [[vloeibaar]] of [[gasvormig]] {{-syn-}} * [[aggregatietoestand]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} mwuz8vc4yp6lgu10nq4al3umwo0uchd 5504127 5504126 2026-03-30T17:58:17Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504127 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɑɣreˈɣatstustɑnt}} {{-syll-}} *ag·gre·gaats·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|aggregaat|zn||toestand|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|S002875.re.3}} #{{natuurkunde|nld}} toestand waarin een stof naar de mate van samenhang der moleculen verkeert, te weten [[vast]], [[vloeibaar]] of [[gasvormig]] {{-syn-}} * [[aggregatietoestand]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} oi4dy1057xz8xdt7ptyapjn44k67wy5 5504130 5504127 2026-03-30T18:00:26Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504130 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɑɣreˈɣatstustɑnt}} {{-syll-}} *ag·gre·gaats·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|aggregaat|zn||toestand|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|S002875.re.3}} #{{natuurkunde|nld}} toestand waarin een stof naar de mate van samenhang der moleculen verkeert, te weten [[vast]], [[vloeibaar]] of [[gasvormig]] {{-syn-}} * [[aggregatietoestand]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} cs4rzfl98xu5cv6gdt83v4967c7czfp 0 1346406 5504131 2026-03-30T18:03:03Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈkwɑntʏmtustɑnt}} {{-syll-}} *quan·tum·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|quantum|zn||toestand|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} # {{-syn-}} *[[kwantumtoestand]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}}' 5504131 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈkwɑntʏmtustɑnt}} {{-syll-}} *quan·tum·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|quantum|zn||toestand|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} # {{-syn-}} *[[kwantumtoestand]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} j2v8afm97vrpidqnnyp6iongyvjhgik 5504132 5504131 2026-03-30T18:03:45Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504132 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈkwɑntʏmtustɑnt}} {{-syll-}} *quan·tum·toe·stand {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|quantum|zn||toestand|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{natuurkunde|nld}} de fysische toestand van een [[systeem]], zoals die wordt beschreven in het kader van de [[kwantummechanica]] {{-syn-}} *[[kwantumtoestand]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} 3zpxuf14lb62ueqkrt1ldhk2kzn0mm8 0 1346407 5504136 2026-03-30T19:07:33Z De Wikischim 13592 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q1860 (eng)-Vealhurl-recant.wav|{{pn}} (VK)|eng}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɹəˈkænt/|eng}} {{-etym-}} *Van {{lat}} ''{{Q|recantare|lat}}'' {{-enverb-}} {{-verb-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|eng}}, {{intr|eng}}, {{juridisch|eng}} iets (zoals een eerdere verklaring) intrekken, van iets eerders terugkomen; vooral in formele zin' 5504136 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q1860 (eng)-Vealhurl-recant.wav|{{pn}} (VK)|eng}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɹəˈkænt/|eng}} {{-etym-}} *Van {{lat}} ''{{Q|recantare|lat}}'' {{-enverb-}} {{-verb-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|eng}}, {{intr|eng}}, {{juridisch|eng}} iets (zoals een eerdere verklaring) intrekken, van iets eerders terugkomen; vooral in formele zin 14o1ipqh8deioqv6aj2ky7e1i7m0322 0 1346408 5504138 2026-03-30T19:13:44Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * men·ta·li·teits·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|mentaliteitswijziging}}' 5504138 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * men·ta·li·teits·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|mentaliteitswijziging}} l8j09mr6jx5iz6ryp6uyldety5sz915 0 1346409 5504139 2026-03-30T19:13:55Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * men·ta·li·teits·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|mentaliteitswijziging}}' 5504139 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * men·ta·li·teits·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|mentaliteitswijziging}} 1g6z9tg6c2l8x5rq1r0ex1alvgfe0vg 0 1346410 5504140 2026-03-30T19:14:03Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * men·ta·li·teits·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|mentaliteitswijziging}}' 5504140 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * men·ta·li·teits·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|mentaliteitswijziging}} 8pyz0lqcd6gir1ujvyw1ms1htdkk4y0 0 1346411 5504141 2026-03-30T19:14:08Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|mɛntali'tɛɪtswɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * men·ta·li·teits·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|mentaliteit|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[mentaliteitswijzigingen]]|[[mentaliteitswijzigingetje]]|[[mentaliteitswijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # ee…' 5504141 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|mɛntali'tɛɪtswɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * men·ta·li·teits·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|mentaliteit|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[mentaliteitswijzigingen]]|[[mentaliteitswijzigingetje]]|[[mentaliteitswijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # een fundamentele verandering in de manier waarop mensen denken, kijken naar situaties, en uiteindelijk handelen. Het is een verschuiving in attitude, waarden of cultuur, vaak noodzakelijk om diepgewortelde patronen te doorbreken. # # {{-syn-}} * [[mentaliteitsverandering]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> 985ja6yjrwml3hxl1d3drsaibbi7huu 0 1346412 5504146 2026-03-30T19:20:45Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maat·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|klimaatwijziging}}' 5504146 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maat·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|klimaatwijziging}} 2bhdzm4potu3evpurra84p74t8vmly0 0 1346413 5504147 2026-03-30T19:20:56Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maat·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|klimaatwijziging}}' 5504147 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maat·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|klimaatwijziging}} t0dqcn1503gtkvs8m6vbi5cjphkuggr 0 1346414 5504148 2026-03-30T19:21:05Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maat·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|klimaatwijziging}}' 5504148 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maat·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|klimaatwijziging}} dzdu34sdwb8iqrtpd9vrtrl6lvnzg2p 0 1346415 5504149 2026-03-30T19:21:16Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|kli'matwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * kli·maat·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|klimaat|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[klimaatwijzigingen]]|[[klimaatwijzigingetje]]|[[klimaatwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # langdurige verandering van het gemiddel…' 5504149 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|kli'matwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * kli·maat·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|klimaat|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[klimaatwijzigingen]]|[[klimaatwijzigingetje]]|[[klimaatwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # langdurige verandering van het gemiddelde weer op aarde, zoals een stijgende temperatuur, gewijzigde neerslag en stijgende zeespiegels # verandering van de sfeer in een bepaalde omgeving of groep # {{-syn-}} * [[klimaatsverandering]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-|W=nl:Klimaatverandering}} edow0h66ru8rwtgmcitb9k9s01gy3q6 5504150 5504149 2026-03-30T19:22:17Z Marcel coenders 15906 5504150 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|kli'matwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * kli·maat·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|klimaat|zn||wijziging|zn||}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[klimaatwijzigingen]]|[[klimaatwijzigingetje]]|[[klimaatwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # langdurige verandering van het gemiddelde weer op aarde, zoals een stijgende temperatuur, gewijzigde neerslag en stijgende zeespiegels # verandering van de sfeer in een bepaalde omgeving of groep # {{-syn-}} * [[klimaatsverandering]], [[klimaatswijziging]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-|W=nl:Klimaatverandering}} 56ymkmcrsvxxib4a1l8ocxcvuqtkbl2 0 1346416 5504151 2026-03-30T19:24:35Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maats·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|klimaatswijziging}}' 5504151 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maats·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|klimaatswijziging}} 84shgrw71xgabyfv1wjcqrvw7j0h571 0 1346417 5504152 2026-03-30T19:24:46Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maats·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|klimaatswijziging}}' 5504152 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maats·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|klimaatswijziging}} eqomsa76u21gfahpl4jwqrecbnjjg8j 0 1346418 5504153 2026-03-30T19:24:53Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maats·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|klimaatswijziging}}' 5504153 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * kli·maats·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|klimaatswijziging}} r8qfdjmr1nrwoy6yznnk2d58641zgm3 0 1346419 5504154 2026-03-30T19:25:00Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|kli'matswɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * kli·maats·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|klimaat|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[klimaatswijzigingen]]|[[klimaatswijzigingetje]]|[[klimaatswijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # langdurige verandering van het ge…' 5504154 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|kli'matswɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * kli·maats·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|klimaat|zn||wijziging|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[klimaatswijzigingen]]|[[klimaatswijzigingetje]]|[[klimaatswijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # langdurige verandering van het gemiddelde weer op aarde, zoals een stijgende temperatuur, gewijzigde neerslag en stijgende zeespiegels # verandering van de sfeer in een bepaalde omgeving of groep # {{-syn-}} * [[klimaatverandering]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-|W=nl:Klimaatverandering}} fg6bsgmnrku4g6amwg29887s53yieqa 0 1346420 5504163 2026-03-30T19:45:44Z De Wikischim 13592 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q1860 (eng)-Mélange a trois-relent.wav|{{pn}} (VK)|eng}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɹɪˈlɛnt/|eng}} {{-etym-}} *Via {{enm}} ''relenten'' van {{ang}} ''relentir'', {{lat}} ''[[relentare]]'' {{-ennoun-|{{pn}}|{{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #het tot stistand komen, {{Q|stop|nld|zn}} #het tot rust komen {{-drv-}} *[[relentless]] {{-enverb-|relent|relents|relented|relented|relenting}} {{-verb-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{…' 5504163 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=eng=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|LL-Q1860 (eng)-Mélange a trois-relent.wav|{{pn}} (VK)|eng}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɹɪˈlɛnt/|eng}} {{-etym-}} *Via {{enm}} ''relenten'' van {{ang}} ''relentir'', {{lat}} ''[[relentare]]'' {{-ennoun-|{{pn}}|{{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #het tot stistand komen, {{Q|stop|nld|zn}} #het tot rust komen {{-drv-}} *[[relentless]] {{-enverb-|relent|relents|relented|relented|relenting}} {{-verb-|eng}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{intr|eng}} in kracht afnemen, [[verzwakken]]] #{{intr|eng}} [[bedaren]], tot rust komen #{{intr|eng}} {{Q|inbinden|nld}} [3], (gedeeltelijk toegeven, zich laten vermurwen #{{ov|eng}}, {{verouderd|eng}} doen verzwakken, zwakker maken 4wldye08ndlczk2y0cy512j9mo081wd 0 1346421 5504165 2026-03-30T19:47:09Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * klank·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|klankwijziging}}' 5504165 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * klank·wij·zi·gin·ge·tjes {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim-pl|klankwijziging}} 11mtnnac80esn83xauzf1dwlyngfqud 0 1346422 5504166 2026-03-30T19:47:20Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * klank·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|klankwijziging}}' 5504166 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * klank·wij·zi·gin·ge·tje {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-dim|klankwijziging}} lzwrrrci5qz3z6mnegl3nzplx7ruqwn 0 1346423 5504167 2026-03-30T19:47:27Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met ' {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * klank·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|klankwijziging}}' 5504167 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} * klank·wij·zi·gin·gen {{-noun-|0}} {{noun-pl|klankwijziging}} 4uruid955dcfsl2brsi117kwi8q6yqj 0 1346424 5504169 2026-03-30T19:47:47Z Marcel coenders 15906 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'klɑŋkwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * klank·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|klank|zn||wijziging|zn|}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[klankwijzigingen]]|[[klankwijzigingetje]]|[[klankwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # taalkundig proces waarbij een klank in de loop van…' 5504169 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} <!--[[bestand:-|thumb|300px|right]]--> {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|'klɑŋkwɛɪzəɣɪŋ}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} * klank·wij·zi·ging {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|klank|zn||wijziging|zn|}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[klankwijzigingen]]|[[klankwijzigingetje]]|[[klankwijzigingetjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} # taalkundig proces waarbij een klank in de loop van de tijd wordt vervangen door een andere klank, of verandert onder invloed van omliggende klanken. # # {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} <!--{{-info-|W=nl:}}--> dmkre8dytblyog7awbjb6ausorjej27 0 1346425 5504200 2026-03-31T07:22:10Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/lɑ.ʃe/|fra}}, {{IPA|/ʁə.la.ʃe/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{fro}} ''{{Q|relascher|fro}}''; een afleiding van {{Q|lâcher|fra}} {{pref|fra|re-}} {{TLFe-r}} {{-verb-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|fra}} losser maken; minder strak maken #{{ov|fra}} [[ontspannen]] #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijlaten]] #{{refl|fra}} zich [[ontspannen]] {{-syn-}} *[3] {{Q|libérer|fra}} {{refs}}' 5504200 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/lɑ.ʃe/|fra}}, {{IPA|/ʁə.la.ʃe/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{fro}} ''{{Q|relascher|fro}}''; een afleiding van {{Q|lâcher|fra}} {{pref|fra|re-}} {{TLFe-r}} {{-verb-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|fra}} losser maken; minder strak maken #{{ov|fra}} [[ontspannen]] #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijlaten]] #{{refl|fra}} zich [[ontspannen]] {{-syn-}} *[3] {{Q|libérer|fra}} {{refs}} 8wm4knyno7blxsg5wf3cs46gbw7bwkk 5504201 5504200 2026-03-31T07:22:27Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504201 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/lɑ.ʃe/|fra}}, {{IPA|/ʁə.la.ʃe/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *van {{fro}} ''{{Q|relascher|fro}}''; een afleiding van {{Q|lâcher|fra}} {{pref|fra|re-}} {{TLFe-r}} {{-frstam-|{{pn}}|[[relâchais]]|[[relâché]]||||eerste groep}} {{-verb-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|fra}} losser maken; minder strak maken #{{ov|fra}} [[ontspannen]] #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijlaten]] #{{refl|fra}} zich [[ontspannen]] {{-syn-}} *[3] {{Q|libérer|fra}} {{refs}} g7akypyt7nys9funcb88x8xayi3j889 0 1346426 5504202 2026-03-31T07:22:45Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '=={{fra}}== {{-frverb-1-|relâch}}' 5504202 wikitext text/x-wiki =={{fra}}== {{-frverb-1-|relâch}} syo2wxygfk086h38b4m7rs0qh8k064b 0 1346427 5504203 2026-03-31T07:28:07Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/li.be.ʁe/|fra}} {{-frstam-|{{pn}}|[[libérais]]|[[libéré]]||||eerste groep}} {{-verb-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|fra}} [[bevrijden]]; [[vrijmaken]] [1] #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijmaken]] [2]; [[emanciperen]] #{{ov|fra}} van een plicht [[ontslaan]] [2] #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijmaken]] [3]; belemmeringen opheffen #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijmaken]] [4]; beschikbaar stellen' 5504203 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/li.be.ʁe/|fra}} {{-frstam-|{{pn}}|[[libérais]]|[[libéré]]||||eerste groep}} {{-verb-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|fra}} [[bevrijden]]; [[vrijmaken]] [1] #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijmaken]] [2]; [[emanciperen]] #{{ov|fra}} van een plicht [[ontslaan]] [2] #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijmaken]] [3]; belemmeringen opheffen #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijmaken]] [4]; beschikbaar stellen rvt6qfsabvbkeo06dz1ebg4yet06wqm 5504204 5504203 2026-03-31T07:28:21Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504204 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/li.be.ʁe/|fra}} {{-frstam-|{{pn}}|[[libérais]]|[[libéré]]||||eerste groep}} {{-verb-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' #{{ov|fra}} [[bevrijden]]; [[vrijmaken]] [1] #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijmaken]] [2]; [[emanciperen]] #{{ov|fra}} van een plicht [[ontslaan]] [2] #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijmaken]] [3]; belemmeringen opheffen #{{ov|fra}} [[vrijmaken]] [4]; beschikbaar stellen {{-rel-}} *{{Q|libération|fra}} 6zsbnou0n1b0cy6juerv2nbhk3ik3eb 0 1346428 5504205 2026-03-31T07:30:25Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '=={{fra}}== {{fr-orth|r}} {{-frverb-|libérer|libère|libères|libère|libérons|libérez|libèrent|libéré|libérais|libérais|libérait|libérions|libériez|libéraient|libérai|libéras|libéra|libérâmes|libérâtes|libérèrent|libèrerai|libèreras|libèrera|libèrerons|libèrerez|libèreront|libère|libérons|libérez|libère|libères|libère|libérions|libériez|libèrent|libérasse|libérasses|libérât|libérassions|libérassiez|libérassent|libèr…' 5504205 wikitext text/x-wiki =={{fra}}== {{fr-orth|r}} {{-frverb-|libérer|libère|libères|libère|libérons|libérez|libèrent|libéré|libérais|libérais|libérait|libérions|libériez|libéraient|libérai|libéras|libéra|libérâmes|libérâtes|libérèrent|libèrerai|libèreras|libèrera|libèrerons|libèrerez|libèreront|libère|libérons|libérez|libère|libères|libère|libérions|libériez|libèrent|libérasse|libérasses|libérât|libérassions|libérassiez|libérassent|libèrerais|libèrerais|libèrerait|libèrerions|libèreriez|libèreraient|libérant}} {{fr-orth|t}} {{-frverb-|libérer|libère|libères|libère|libérons|libérez|libèrent|libéré|libérais|libérais|libérait|libérions|libériez|libéraient|libérai|libéras|libéra|libérâmes|libérâtes|libérèrent|libérerai|libéreras|libérera|libérerons|libérerez|libéreront|libère|libérons|libérez|libère|libères|libère|libérions|libériez|libèrent|libérasse|libérasses|libérât|libérassions|libérassiez|libérassent|libérerais|libérerais|libérerait|libérerions|libéreriez|libéreraient|libérant}} 7f1h0cc3kl8q10ymrph4shr0logwmey 3 1346429 5504218 2026-03-31T08:53:48Z Latijn 65243 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --Gebruike…' 5504218 wikitext text/x-wiki {{welkom}} ==Doel van gebruikerspagina's== Dag Latijn, Op dit moment zie ik je vooral gebruikerspagina's aanmaken zonder veel relatie met WikiWoordenboek. Maar de gebruikerspagina's zijn wel bedoeld om dienstig te zijn voor het werken aan het woordenboek. Heb je al ideeën wat je aan WikiWoordenboek wil bijdragen of zit je met vragen hoe je dat het beste kunt doen? Kijk eens naar de tips via bovenstaande links of stel hieronder gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 13 nov 2025 20:41 (CET) :Ik zie je doorgaan met bewerkingen die kennelijk niet gericht zijn op WikiWoordenboek. Zoals gezegd zijn onze gebruikerspagina's daar niet voor bedoeld. Als ik me hierin vergis, laat dat dan even weten. Anders neem ik aan dat je er begrip voor hebt dat ik ze verwijder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 nov 2025 21:06 (CET) ::We kunnen beter naar artikelen gaan [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-36118-84|&#126;2025-36118-84]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-36118-84|overleg]]) 26 nov 2025 10:47 (CET) == Pagina Gebruiker:Latijn op Wikibooks is buiten gebruik genomen == Helaas heeft Erik Baas 'Latijn' op Wikibooks geblokkeerd. [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 27 nov 2025 21:46 (CET) == Vraag == Dank voor het toevoegen van "bleekgoed". Ik heb het nog wat bijgewerkt. Wat ik niet helemaal begrijp zijn alle bewerkingen die je op je gebruikerspagina's doet. Kun je uitleggen hoe die gaan bijdragen aan WikiWoordenboek? Als je probeert daarvoor iets te leren, stel dan gerust een vraag. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 8 dec 2025 15:58 (CET) == Betekenis == Beste Latijn. Zou u voortaan a.u.b woorden met hun betekenis kunnen toevoegen? [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 13:27 (CET) :Mensen die een woordenboek raadplegen zijn vaak op zoek naar de betekenis van een woord. Het is daarom wenselijk om een woord pas toe te voegen als je ook een omschrijving van de betekenis kan geven. Bij een samengesteld woord zou dat meer moeten inhouden dan een herhaling van de woorden waaruit de samenstelling bestaat. Een methode die vaak wordt gebruikt is dat je de omschrijving begint met een iets algemener begrip, waar dit woord een voorbeeld van is, gevolgd door een precisering waardoor dit woord zich juist onderscheid van andere woorden die onder dit algemene begrip vallen. Bijvoorbeeld: ::woord: '''[[woonhuis]]''' ::algemene begrip: bouwwerk, ::precisering: waarin mensen kunnen wonen :Dit werkt niet altijd; soms werkt een andere oplossing beter, maar daar kom je met deze benadering vaak vanzelf achter als je meer woorden toevoegt. --[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:09 (CET) ::Iemand anders doet het, ik heb er geen zin in om een betekenis toe te voegen [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 19:55 (CET) :::Oh ik wil wel de betekenissen toevoegen als u dat fijn en goed vindt [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:01 (CET) ::::Ja, is goed [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:05 (CET) :::::En ik wil ook zeggen dat ik elke dag aanwezig ben, en ik wens je een fijne kerst en een gelukkig 2026 [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 20:22 (CET) ::::::Zolang jullie zo samenwerken is dat een bruikbare oplossing. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 12:51 (CET) :::::::Marcel coenders en ik werken ook veel samen [[Speciaal:Bijdragen/&#126;2025-37261-51|&#126;2025-37261-51]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:&#126;2025-37261-51|overleg]]) 24 dec 2025 13:02 (CET) ::::::::wie zal nu de betekenissen toevoegen? [[Gebruiker:Latijn|Latijn]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Latijn|overleg]]) 1 feb 2026 21:35 (CET) :::::::::U kunt ook de woorden tussen het [[WikiWoordenboek:Gevraagd materiaal]] neerzetten, want dan kunnen andere gebruikers ze toevoegen [[Gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|Vuurregenboog]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Vuurregenboog|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 08:11 (CET) ::::::::::Een lemma op WikiWoordenboek minstens een betekenisomschrijving geeft. Het is mogelijk dat twee of meer bewerkers daar in samenwerking voor zorgen, maar dan is het wel zaak dat we erop kunnen rekenen dat dat binnen een dag gebeurt. Een lemma als [https://nl.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=vluchtstoel&oldid=5446502 vluchtstoel] is ook om andere redenen niet compleet genoeg. Het is geen goed idee een volstrekt verkeerde IPA-weergave te vermelden: die kan dan beter helemaal worden weggelaten, in dit geval was het mogelijk geweest de informatie van woordenlijst.org over te nemen. Dat geldt ook voor de afbreking, waar geen goed idee is om streepje te gebruiken voor de afbreekplaatsen. En met de informatie van woordenlijst.org is het ook mogelijk om informatie over de woordsoort, het woordgeslacht, de meervoudsvorm en de gangbaarheid toe te voegen. ::::::::::De suggestie die Vuurregenboog doet is hoe dan ook in orde, maar we hebben op dit moment een groot gebrek aan bewerkers om lemma's te maken van woorden uit die lijst(en). Een alternatief zijn sluitende afspraken over samenwerking. Derde mogelijkheid: ik ben graag bereid om met jullie beiden of elk van jullie afzonderlijk stap voor stap door te nemen hoe je redelijk vlot een nieuw lemma kunt maken. Het bewerken van WikiWoordenboek is in het begin inderdaad wat ingewikkeld, maar jullie maken de indruk dat je die uitdaging best aankan. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 2 feb 2026 11:06 (CET) == Geluidsbestand == Het is op WikiWoordenboek eigenlijk altijd een goed idee om bij woorden uit levende talen een sectie uitspraak toe te voegen, dus bij Nederlands: {{Tl|-pron-}} *{{Tl|sound}}: {{Tl|audio|nl-<nowiki>{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}</nowiki>|nld}} Het mooie is dat [[Gebruiker:Marcel coenders|Marcel coenders]] al heel veel Nederlandse woorden heeft ingesproken waarvoor nog een pagina gemaakt moet worden en ook regelmatig nagaat of er nieuwe woorden zijn waarvoor hij een geluidsbestand kan aanmaken. Bij andere talen zijn we afhankelijk van de voortgang die daar bij het inspreken wordt gemaakt, maar in de vormgeving van onze pagina's wordt dat opgelost met een oproep tot inspreken als plaatshouder. [[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 23 dec 2025 17:21 (CET) n54lqjjofz88hq3c8de5lrhvbmrvlry 0 1346430 5504230 2026-03-31T09:19:56Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈspɛkswort}} {{-syll-}} *spek·zwoord {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|spek|zn||zwoord|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M065180.re.111}} {{wnt-r|M090749.re.3}} # {{-syn-}} *[[spekzwoerd]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}}' 5504230 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈspɛkswort}} {{-syll-}} *spek·zwoord {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|spek|zn||zwoord|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M065180.re.111}} {{wnt-r|M090749.re.3}} # {{-syn-}} *[[spekzwoerd]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} 4q2fanq96psh87xj46r2hzuhg26cvc1 5504231 5504230 2026-03-31T09:21:08Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504231 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈspɛkswort}} {{-syll-}} *spek·zwoord {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|spek|zn||zwoord|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M065180.re.111}} {{wnt-r|M090749.re.3}} # {{voeding|nld}} de buitenste harde laag die aan het spek van een varken vastzit (de huid van het varken) {{-syn-}} *[[spekzwoerd]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} 30ryu97mll1le3z4kue9yddgjwra44g 5504232 5504231 2026-03-31T09:22:00Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504232 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈspɛkswort}} {{-syll-}} *spek·zwoord {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|spek|zn||zwoord|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M090749.re.3}} # {{voeding|nld}} de buitenste harde laag die aan het spek van een varken vastzit (de huid van het varken) {{-syn-}} *[[spekzwoerd]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} rh0m77is4p5mp8fw01qrhfr7i1kcpoh 5504234 5504232 2026-03-31T09:23:18Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504234 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈspɛkswort}} {{-syll-}} *spek·zwoord {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|spek|zn||zwoord|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} {{wnt-r|M090749.re.3}} # {{voeding|nld}} de buitenste harde laag die aan het spek van een varken vastzit (de huid van het varken) {{-syn-}} *[[spekzwoerd]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} fxx75qi5xmoelibybdcn1nzd7v73gli 0 1346431 5504235 2026-03-31T09:26:51Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈvrɑxtwaɣənvɪɲɛt}} {{-syll-}} *vracht·wa·gen·vig·net {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|vrachtwagen|zn||vignet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{verkeer|nld}} vignet dat vrachtwagens in sommige landen nodig hebben om daar te kunnen rijden {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504235 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈvrɑxtwaɣənvɪɲɛt}} {{-syll-}} *vracht·wa·gen·vig·net {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|vrachtwagen|zn||vignet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{verkeer|nld}} vignet dat vrachtwagens in sommige landen nodig hebben om daar te kunnen rijden {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} ahd95c85opkzu0aatopk8j7qsiasg01 5504236 5504235 2026-03-31T09:28:27Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504236 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} [[Bestand:Swiss-motorway-road-tax-vignette.jpg|thumb|right|Vignet voor [[Zwitserland]] in 2025]] {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ˈvrɑxtwaɣənvɪɲɛt}} {{-syll-}} *vracht·wa·gen·vig·net {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|vrachtwagen|zn||vignet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|n}} #{{verkeer|nld}} vignet dat vrachtwagens in sommige landen nodig hebben om daar te kunnen rijden {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} 5xokqd1p61ja3bsy99jjo6ncu48ua5m 1 1346432 5504237 2026-03-31T09:30:20Z Heureka 25805 /* spellingvariant */ nieuwe subkop 5504237 wikitext text/x-wiki == spellingvariant == ''De uitspraakvariant giraffe geldt niet als uitgangspunt voor samenstellingen en afleidingen'': deze spellingregel werd eind 2025 vervangen door een regel die beide varianten toelaat. Vermoedelijk was de regel op grond van de frequentie van vormvarianten als ''giraf'' / ''giraffe'' in de praktijk niet houdbaar. Zie het taaladvies op https://taaladvies.net/giraffehals-of-giraffenhals/. Op woordenlijst.org vind je nu zowel ''giraffennek'' als ''giraffenek''. [[Gebruiker:Heureka|Heureka]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Heureka|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 11:30 (CEST) l31ec6o6eppfz19ai0zqlusf7pf13lw 5504258 5504237 2026-03-31T10:41:11Z MarcoSwart 9001 /* spellingvariant */ Reactie 5504258 wikitext text/x-wiki == spellingvariant == ''De uitspraakvariant giraffe geldt niet als uitgangspunt voor samenstellingen en afleidingen'': deze spellingregel werd eind 2025 vervangen door een regel die beide varianten toelaat. Vermoedelijk was de regel op grond van de frequentie van vormvarianten als ''giraf'' / ''giraffe'' in de praktijk niet houdbaar. Zie het taaladvies op https://taaladvies.net/giraffehals-of-giraffenhals/. Op woordenlijst.org vind je nu zowel ''giraffennek'' als ''giraffenek''. [[Gebruiker:Heureka|Heureka]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Heureka|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 11:30 (CEST) :Dank voor het signaal. Ik heb het lemma aangepast. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:41 (CEST) 5ztuqa4obzwgyq31f5usalx75cwacme 5504263 5504258 2026-03-31T10:53:19Z Heureka 25805 5504263 wikitext text/x-wiki == spellingvariant == ''De uitspraakvariant giraffe geldt niet als uitgangspunt voor samenstellingen en afleidingen'': deze spellingregel werd eind 2025 vervangen door een regel die beide varianten toelaat. Vermoedelijk was de regel op grond van de frequentie van vormvarianten als ''giraf'' / ''giraffe'' in de praktijk niet houdbaar. Zie het taaladvies op https://taaladvies.net/giraffehals-of-giraffenhals/. Op woordenlijst.org vind je nu zowel ''giraffennek'' als ''giraffenek''. [[Gebruiker:Heureka|Heureka]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Heureka|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 11:30 (CEST) :Dank voor het signaal. Ik heb het lemma aangepast. -[[Gebruiker:MarcoSwart|MarcoSwart]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:MarcoSwart|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:41 (CEST) ::Ook voor andere WikiWoordenboek- woorden die beginnen met ''giraffen'' geldt dezelfde opmerking. Zo vind je nu op woordenlijst.org ook ''giraffehals'' en ''giraffeverblijf'' zonder tussen-n. [[Gebruiker:Heureka|Heureka]] ([[Overleg gebruiker:Heureka|overleg]]) 31 mrt 2026 12:52 (CEST) 5x48g90ujgg93mbsh3avxntdvfhg9rx 0 1346433 5504245 2026-03-31T10:16:07Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *cho·co·la·de·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|chocolade|zn||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]<br>[[chocoladetabletten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M067578.re.11}} #{{voeding|nld}} chocolade in tabletvorm {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|tableta de chocolate}} {{t…' 5504245 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *cho·co·la·de·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|chocolade|zn||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]<br>[[chocoladetabletten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M067578.re.11}} #{{voeding|nld}} chocolade in tabletvorm {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|tableta de chocolate}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} rppvx7g07duc83ywnvuej2au50lpdnl 5504246 5504245 2026-03-31T10:17:00Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504246 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *cho·co·la·de·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|chocolade|zn||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M067578.re.11}} #{{voeding|nld}} chocolade in tabletvorm {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|tableta de chocolate}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} e4s1kflw7fdgn15l4w57jhvi7q7dqyn 5504247 5504246 2026-03-31T10:18:22Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504247 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *cho·co·la·de·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|chocolade|zn||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M067578.re.11}} #{{voeding|nld}} chocolade in tabletvorm {{-rel-}} * [[chocoladereep]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|tableta de chocolate}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{-info-}} {{refs}} s2ykxko5a7uh208xic3j3fdkofpbu00 0 1346434 5504249 2026-03-31T10:20:13Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *flu·or·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|fluor|zn||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{medisch|nld}} fluoridehoudend tablet ter voorkoming van [[cariës]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504249 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *flu·or·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|fluor|zn||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{medisch|nld}} fluoridehoudend tablet ter voorkoming van [[cariës]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} acj7lhkqo6miauaj6tyh6cklnzgicer 0 1346435 5504251 2026-03-31T10:22:23Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *hoest·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|hoest|||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M067578.re.18}} #{{medisch|nld}} tablet ter voorkoming van hoest {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}}' 5504251 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *hoest·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|hoest|||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M067578.re.18}} #{{medisch|nld}} tablet ter voorkoming van hoest {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{refs}} h0kg3nha0qd882ljgixj1q6nbbe2iui 0 1346436 5504252 2026-03-31T10:23:53Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *jo·di·um·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|jodium|zn||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{medisch|nld}} jodium bevattende tablet die men moet slikken ter [[voorkoming]] van besmetting met radioactieve jodium als gevolg van een kernongeval #{{medisch|nld}} tablet ter voor…' 5504252 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *jo·di·um·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|jodium|zn||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{medisch|nld}} jodium bevattende tablet die men moet slikken ter [[voorkoming]] van besmetting met radioactieve jodium als gevolg van een kernongeval #{{medisch|nld}} tablet ter voorkoming van [[kroep]] {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} 00l10ikd9o9sfeomui6oc8myq47hub0 5504253 5504252 2026-03-31T10:26:15Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504253 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *jo·di·um·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|jodium|zn||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{medisch|nld}} jodium bevattende tablet die men moet slikken ter [[voorkoming]] van besmetting met radioactieve jodium als gevolg van een kernongeval #{{medisch|nld}} tablet ter voorkoming van [[krop]] ([[struma]]) {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} ka9qt6jnub6dlouuyap00v0vyx23k0d 5504254 5504253 2026-03-31T10:28:00Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504254 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *jo·di·um·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|jodium|zn||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #{{medisch|nld}} jodium bevattende tablet die men moet slikken ter [[voorkoming]] van besmetting met radioactieve jodium als gevolg van een kernongeval #{{medisch|nld}} tablet ter voorkoming van [[krop]] ([[struma]]) (zeldzaam: jodium is toegevoegd aan [[keukenzout]]) {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} njynnwu4hb0e797rastucis9wvyn13p 0 1346437 5504264 2026-03-31T10:53:37Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *schrijf·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|schrijf|ww||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]<br>[[schrijftabletten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M067578.re.5}} #[[kleitablet]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{refs}}' 5504264 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *schrijf·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|schrijf|ww||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]<br>[[schrijftabletten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M067578.re.5}} #[[kleitablet]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{refs}} ronxifbw2jbmrpgy1nwlcx6l1zyjpyg 5504265 5504264 2026-03-31T10:54:39Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504265 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *schrijf·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|schrijf|ww||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]<br>[[schrijftabletten]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} {{wnt-r|M067578.re.5}} #een tablet waarop men kan schrijven {{-rel-}} *[[kleitablet]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} {{refs}} 5a6mkrzd56pspzgkpyeldm5y3zzqwqu 0 1346438 5504266 2026-03-31T10:55:29Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *schuim·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|schuim|||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #tablet die bij oplossing schuim ontwikkelt en dat als [[voorbehoedmiddel]] in de vagina wordt ingebracht {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}}' 5504266 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *schuim·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|schuim|||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #tablet die bij oplossing schuim ontwikkelt en dat als [[voorbehoedmiddel]] in de vagina wordt ingebracht {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} 4hw0vd4hne9zydnpalo84oz0hwm1unq 5504269 5504266 2026-03-31T10:57:14Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504269 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} <!--*{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|}}--> {{-syll-}} *schuim·ta·blet {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|schuim|||tablet|zn}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}ten]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #een type tablet dat, eenmaal in contact met vocht, een schuimende substantie ontwikkelt ##tablet die bij oplossing schuim ontwikkelt en dat als [[voorbehoedmiddel]] in de vagina wordt ingebracht ##tablet gebruikt voor reinigingsdoeleinden, zoals het reinigen van [[gebitsprothese]]s {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} t5ds2f2xlulg5pfi6pwadyc17spjy2g 0 1346439 5504267 2026-03-31T10:56:55Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɔ.ʁɛ.je/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *geattesteerd sinds de 12de eeuw als {{fro}} ''{{Q|oreiller|fro}}''; een afleiding van {{Q|oreille|fra}} "oor" {{suff|fra|-ier}}, zie ook middeleeuws Latijn {{Q|auriculare|lat}} (geattesteerd in de 9de eeuw) {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|l'{{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #[[hoofdkussen]] {{refs}}' 5504267 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɔ.ʁɛ.je/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *geattesteerd sinds de 12de eeuw als {{fro}} ''{{Q|oreiller|fro}}''; een afleiding van {{Q|oreille|fra}} "oor" {{suff|fra|-ier}}, zie ook middeleeuws Latijn {{Q|auriculare|lat}} (geattesteerd in de 9de eeuw) {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|l'{{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #[[hoofdkussen]] {{refs}} fwha485fxb78s764lky09bb5uat6fmi 5504288 5504267 2026-03-31T11:15:02Z Jochenknabben 60937 Fr: + expr 5504288 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ɔ.ʁɛ.je/|fra}} {{-etym-}} *geattesteerd sinds de 12de eeuw als {{fro}} ''{{Q|oreiller|fro}}''; een afleiding van {{Q|oreille|fra}} "oor" {{suff|fra|-ier}}, zie ook middeleeuws Latijn {{Q|auriculare|lat}} (geattesteerd in de 9de eeuw) {{TLFe-r}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|l'{{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #[[hoofdkussen]] {{-expr-}} *''{{Q|tu as eu une panne d'oreiller|fra}}'' {{refs}} mgkng9d38cbvgnd3aabtvhg2yozipwq 0 1346440 5504271 2026-03-31T10:58:22Z Kvdrgeus 10538 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɣəˈbɪtsprotezə}} {{-syll-}} *ge·bits·pro·the·se {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|gebit|zn||prothese|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[gebitsprotheses]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #{{medisch|nld}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|prótesis dental}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}}' 5504271 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɣəˈbɪtsprotezə}} {{-syll-}} *ge·bits·pro·the·se {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|gebit|zn||prothese|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[gebitsprotheses]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #{{medisch|nld}} {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|prótesis dental}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} 14zcgj3ptvoxylijc8iqk7v80vtc5z7 5504273 5504271 2026-03-31T10:59:55Z Kvdrgeus 10538 5504273 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA-nl-standaard|ɣəˈbɪtsprotezə}} {{-syll-}} *ge·bits·pro·the·se {{-etym-}} * {{samen|nld|gebit|zn||prothese|zn||s}} {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}n]]<br>[[gebitsprotheses]]|-|-}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|f}} #{{medisch|nld}} prothese die de natuurlijke tanden en kiezen vervangt wanneer deze verloren zijn gegaan door [[cariës]] of [[parodontitis]] {{-syn-}} * [[kunstgebit]] {{-trans-}} {{trans-top|}} {{trans-mid}} *{{spa}}: {{trad|es|prótesis dental}} {{f}} {{trans-bottom}} {{-preval-}} {{wel-GB}} {{-info-}} g4054vb31imq2k164lrhoj0rkui5uz5 0 1346441 5504291 2026-03-31T11:22:30Z Vuurregenboog 66174 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *ju·li·en·ne·schil·ler {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #handig keukenhulpje waarmee je groenten en fruit in flinterdunne, gelijkmatige reepjes snijdt {{-syn-}} *[[juliennesnijder]], [[juliennerasp]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}}' 5504291 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *ju·li·en·ne·schil·ler {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}s]]|[[{{pn}}tje]]|[[{{pn}}tjes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #handig keukenhulpje waarmee je groenten en fruit in flinterdunne, gelijkmatige reepjes snijdt {{-syn-}} *[[juliennesnijder]], [[juliennerasp]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} nb17be78mzm6nijdzunpwtbpsz1n010 0 1346442 5504292 2026-03-31T11:23:12Z Vuurregenboog 66174 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *ju·li·en·ne·rasp {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #handig keukenhulpje waarmee je groenten en fruit in flinterdunne, gelijkmatige reepjes snijdt {{-syn-}} *[[juliennesnijder]], [[julienneschiller]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}}' 5504292 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=nld=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|nl-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|nld}} {{-syll-}} *ju·li·en·ne·rasp {{-nlnoun-|{{pn}}|[[{{pn}}en]]|[[{{pn}}je]]|[[{{pn}}jes]]}} {{-noun-|nld}} {{-l-|m}} #handig keukenhulpje waarmee je groenten en fruit in flinterdunne, gelijkmatige reepjes snijdt {{-syn-}} *[[juliennesnijder]], [[julienneschiller]] {{-preval-}} {{niet-GB}} d1bh9ld6x5cpagp0wekdna061ks7ppa 0 1346443 5504300 2026-03-31T11:49:39Z Jochenknabben 60937 Nieuwe pagina aangemaakt met '{{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ku.ʁje/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #[[post]] [1]; toegezonden brieven en poststukken #{{bedrijfskunde|fra}} de [[post]] [2]; de [[posterijen]] en hun werknemers {{-drv-}} *{{Q|courriel|fra}}' 5504300 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ku.ʁje/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #[[post]] [1]; toegezonden brieven en poststukken #{{bedrijfskunde|fra}} de [[post]] [2]; de [[posterijen]] en hun werknemers {{-drv-}} *{{Q|courriel|fra}} hupj11z4784amjbibax5v7hflzeciy8 5504301 5504300 2026-03-31T11:52:43Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504301 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ku.ʁje/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #[[post]] [1]; toegezonden brieven en poststukken #{{bedrijfskunde|fra}} de [[post]] [2]; de [[posterijen]] en hun werknemers #{{letterkunde|fra}} [[rubriek]]; [[krantenrubriek]] {{-drv-}} *{{Q|courriel|fra}} t25joax4h8fgrbi6ii4udz5xw7l4m1f 5504302 5504301 2026-03-31T11:54:50Z Jochenknabben 60937 5504302 wikitext text/x-wiki {{=fra=}} {{-pron-}} *{{sound}}: {{audio|fr-{{pn}}.ogg|{{pn}}|fra}} *{{WikiW|IPA}}: {{IPA|/ku.ʁje/|fra}} {{-frnoun-|{{pn}}|le {{pn}}|{{pn}}s|les {{pn}}s}} {{-noun-|fra}} '''{{pn}}''' {{m}} #{{verouderd|fra}} [[koerier]] #[[post]] [1]; toegezonden brieven en poststukken #{{bedrijfskunde|fra}} de [[post]] [2]; de [[posterijen]] en hun werknemers #{{letterkunde|fra}} [[rubriek]]; [[krantenrubriek]] {{-drv-}} *{{Q|courriel|fra}} hj48cn936tpi75dduacrjjrljborpp7