Disputatio:Novum Eboracum - Vicipaedia

# Disputatio:Novum Eboracum

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"(Pietatis causa textum Anglicum non delendum censui)": I see no reason to keep it. A) it's in English B) it's wrong ("Nova"??) C) It seems to feel it necessary to explain why New York should have a Latin name. Maybe some people need such an explanation, but not people who are using or writing a Latin wiki! --Iustinus 06:52 iul 4, 2004 (UTC)

I think it should be moved to the discussion page, er... censeo movendum in paginam disputationis.

The 'correct' Latin name for New York state is Novum Eboracum, the city, Civitas Novi Eboraci. 'Correct' in this instance means 'frequently used'; an antiquated manner of identifying the publication origin of books was to include the city of publication in Latin (or Neolatin or Pseudolatin, as the case might have been). Presumably, this was to let foreign readers identify the city name by using a 'universal' naming standard in much the same way Biological Taxonomy uses Latin. This practice, obviously, has been deprecated over the years. Also the seal of Columbia University bears the legend "Sigillum Collegii Columbiae Novi Eboraci." On a side note -- Eboracum was not only the Latin word for the place that became the English county of York, but, via some interesting sound and orthographical changes, the actual origin of the word 'York'.

Pessime! Haec pagina nescit ubi est! Civitas foederalis aut urbs est? Seriously, we have interwiki links going to both New York City and New York State. Which article is this? Is this for the state (it doesn't look like it is), or is it for the city (it does look like it is)? I'd split it into state and city pages, but I don't have enough wiki savvy to do that yet. --Sinister Petrus (26 Sept 2005)

It is now quite obvious that this page is about New York State. So, I changed the interwiki links. --2514 13:10, 2 Martii 2006 (UTC)2514

## [recensere] Older form of the seal

Check this out: http://www.scc.rutgers.edu/coastweb/NYCDEPHarbor_survey/docs/images/seal.gif --Iustinus 03:06, 28 Augusti 2006 (UTC)

## [recensere] Unusual remarks

Near the start of an article about New York, is the subject-matter of the second paragraph—"Ut nunc quoque in biologia systema et denominatio Linnaea, sic etiam in ceteris artibus et imprimis in geographia per saecula nomina Latina adhibebantur (et adhibebuntur), quae lingua sola differentias sermonum aequabat. Causa denominationis internationalis erat necessitudo scribendi locum, ubi liber editus erat."—rather unexpected? How does it relate to New York? IacobusAmor 04:18, 16 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)

  Presumably that's a fossil of the original ramble about why New York shoudl ahve a Latin name. See the first section, above. --Iustinus 07:05, 16 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)
    Then it should be cut, no? IacobusAmor 14:17, 16 Ianuarii 2007 (UTC)

## [recensere] Long Island

Does anyone have a Latin name for "Long Island"? Not difficult to invent, I know, but I wonder if there's a source. Andrew Dalby 15:47, 5 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)

  Maybe it's like that anonymous user whom we blocked: "Insula Longa Loooooooooooooooooooooooonga est".--Ioshus (disp) 15:58, 5 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)
    Quite. Anyway, the person who asked me the question has now found the answer, via [1]: Rockville Centre is Dioecesis Petropolitana in Insula Longa so the island can be none other than Insula Longa. Andrew Dalby 16:19, 5 Aprilis 2007 (UTC)

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