Disputatio:Schocolata
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[recensere] Spelling
We had a discussion on this somewhere, didn't we? I don't know of any Latin words that begin with Sch-, so I suspect we'll find a better spelling than this one.
Wormius, recommended to me by Iustinus, uses Cacao for the plant and its bean, Chocolate for the product, both probably indeclinable. See this page. Should we go with that? Andrew Dalby 13:15, 8 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
- Disputatio:Pagina_prima#Chocolate_.3D_Tzocolate.3F is where the discussion was. I prefer something indeclinable than "schocolata" for sure.--Ioshus (disp) 13:27, 8 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
- Why not declination: socolata, socolatae, socolatae etc. vel Smith/Hall chocolatum, -i, -o, etc. PONS: chocolata, -ae, -ae, etc. --Alex1011 13:48, 8 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
There are plenty of Latin words that start with sch-, it's just a silly way to represent [∫] (though from another point of view, it's no sillier than sh or ch). The word I usually use, and have used on wiki before, is the biological theobroma--apparently calqued off a native word. But asside from that there are plenty of Latinized spellings. Let's start listing attestations in an organized format. --Iustinus 16:53, 8 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, of course there are! I've been out of schola for too long. Andrew Dalby 22:01, 8 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
It does seem that socolāta is by far the most widely attested spelling in out 20th century sources. Wish we could find some more stuff the 16th century and on though. --Iustinus 00:46, 9 Februarii 2007 (UTC)
[recensere] Attestations
- 1655, Wormii Museum Wormianum, cap. 24, p. 191
- "sed usum potissimum in potu habet, quem ex illo conficiunt Chocolate dicto..."
- 1870 Smith's English-Latin Dictionary (chocolatum)
- 1991 Lexicon Auxiliare (socolata, choccolata, cacaotica)
- 1992, Lexicon Recentis Latinitatis, Vol. I, p. 170
- cioccolatino 1 socolatae quadrŭla, f; ~ pastillŭlus. 2 pilŭla dulcorata, f. Syn: globulus saccharo conditus.
- cioccolato 1 socolata, ae, f; cfr Lat, 31, 1983, 190 2 socolatae potio, f; ~ sorbitio.
- 1995 Iohannis Traupman New College Latin & English Dictionary ed. 2
- chococlate [sic] s chocolat·um, -ī n
- 1998, PONS, p. 331
- Schokolade, f 1 socolata, ae, f; vgl. Lat, 31, 1983, 190 2 socolatae potio, f; ~ sorbitio.
- 2002, Calepinus Novus, "Français – Latin", p. 32
- chocolat ¶ socolā́ta, ae f. [N. Gross, « Esculenta et potulenta », in : Vox Latina, 56, p. 170]
- chocolat (au -) ¶ socolā́teus, a, um [[N. Gross, « Esculenta et potulenta », in : Vox Latina, 52, p. 160 et Vox Latina, 56, p. 170]
- 2003 Traupman, Conversational Latin for Oral Proficiency, ed. 3
- chocolate socolā́t·a, -ae f
- 347 chocolate socolâta, ae* f. (Mod. Gr. σοκολάτα)
- 347 chocolate bar lamella socolâtina* (v. e socolâta)
- 347 chocolate: cacao < EL: κακάο
- 347 ice cream glacies (dulcis v. mulsa v. edûlis v. esculenta), nix (dulcis v. mulsa v. edûlis v. esculenta); chocolate (or vanilla or strawberry) ice cream glacies e socolâta (v. vanilla v. fragis)

